>makes Noctua obsolete
>>108832457>Air cooling>in 2026
>empowered by youof the very high quarity and& china finest product!!
>>108832477of course star wars fags are beyond fucking retarded. water cooling still requires fans.
>>108832496if water cooling uses air to cool then what is the water used for?
>>108832496>not routing your watercooling outdoors into a geothermal cooling loop
>>108832457>muh inifinity warranty>doesn't cover the single most common complaint (faulty bearings causing noise)
>>108832457But can it last?>Noctua fans that came with NH-D15S>Still spinning quietly like they're brand new since 2017
>>108832457so, you wanna post some actual stats? i'm not convinced by a picture of the box.
>>108832496why don't we just take the hot water and send it through cooler water to bring the temp back down
>>108832570they'll say it's okay for their fans to be ewaste because they can just buy more. SAD!
>>108832457arctic fans were the loudest I've ever had and since they're a cheap brand I will not believe anything they write on their packaing nor what normalized test graphs try to deceive you to believe
>>108832536It's just heat pipes with extra steps.
>>108832570That's the reason I buy Noctua.All other brands start rattling after a few years.Sure if other fans are 1/5th the price you can replace them 4 times more often and still save money.But it's a hassle and I have plenty monies.
>>108832477It's for venting the radiator of AIO water coolers of course.
those fans sucked about 15 years ago. are they actually decent now? they were significantly louder than noctuas.
>>108833159> All other brands start rattling after a few years.Not beQuiet! Never had a rattling beQuiet! fan. Never even heard of anybody who ever had. Their fans are reliable quality. Neither as cheap as Arctic, nor as ruthlessly overpriced as nawk tuah.
>>108832477How the fuck do you think watercooling works, retard?
>>108832457actually took a gamble on this niggers to save some money over noctua to offset ddr5 costs. unironically great fans.
>>108833556Artic fixed some of the odd buzzing those fans made at certain RPMs.So the aren't terrible.But Noctua fans are still a tiny bit better flow and noise wise.Longevity is still worse on Arctic fans.I had so many of those kill bearings after 3-4 years
>>108832477Water-cooling is hobbyist only for desktop and workstation chassis. You are doing for its own sake. Air-cooled towers made water-cooling obsolete for 95% of use cases in a desktop/workstation chassis.
ITT: retards who are fretting over 120mm+ shelve-bearing fans that are barely made any noise at maximum.
>>108832457I bought 4 of these. 2 are silent. 1 is moderately audible, 1 is loud.
>>108832477>cooling>in 2026
>>108832554This is what passive cooling looks like for the waterchads
>>108832457I bought it to test it out and it buzzes at all speeds above 700rpm, they somehow made it worse than the old model that only started buzzing at 1000rpm. I really want to like the arctic fans as they are less shit than most other fans but these new ones are a complete failure. Even NZXT makes better fans at this point.
>>108832457Whats the Good Value (tm) fan company? I’m not paying 5x as much as chinkshit but I don’t want cheapest trash either
>>108834237Arctic is actually good.I've had mine (one 120mm and three 140mm) for 4 years now. Will it last 10+ more years? who knows. But I already got very good mileage out of them given the cheap price.
>>108833558okay, do either bequiet or arctic replace rattling bearings? noctua does, iirc.
>>108832477been using the same aircooler for 15 years from noctua. can you say the same about your aio?
>>108834254>I've had mine (one 120mm and three 140mm) for 4 years now.lollmaoi have noctuas (nf-p12) from 2011 that still work fine
>>108833159Arctic gives you 6 years warranty. I doubt it will start rattling before that.
>>108832457Arctic is only good for thermal padsTheir fans are noisy garbage compared to noctua>>108834210This happens on ALL. ALL of arctic fans. I have around 12 of these fuckers and not a single one doesn't have this problem. They are just designed this way.Arctic fans are cheap because they should be cheap.
>>108832457is this guerrilla marketing or are their fans actually bretty gud? i have a rack of machines in cases with uncommon fan sizes that are not very good and are excessively loud and i basically have four options to replace them:arcticnoctuarandom noname chinese crapbuying a giant, possibly automotive radiator and putting all of the machines in a cooling loop like the big boysim not going to buy waterblocks for all of them, i'm not buying noname crap, so it's down to either arctic or noctua and what caught my eye is some of their fans can be daisy chained together to share pwm
>>108834903They're known to be better than other fans priced equally, so they're not bad optionsIt's just if someone's trying to sell you the idea that they're equal or better than noctua not based on the pricing, you just don't listen to them. They're schizophrenic and need some actual help.
>>108834932good to know. my requirements are just not a fire hazard, not a jet engine. maybe i'll pay for it later as a cheap bastard but it's a full rack of boxes and noctua costs 3x as much for what i need. sucks arctic doesnt make 60mm pwm fans too.
>>108832457it's just some stupid fan, any brand will do
>>108834932Noctua is what you get when you want the absolute best of the best.Arctic is what you get when you want the best bang for your buck.I'm not pretending that Arctic is better than Noctua but I'm also not pretending that you should always get Noctua no matter what. They're just too expensive for what they are. For most people Arctic fans are simply the more logical choice.
>>108832536Just submerge your system in mineral oil:https://www.pugetsystems.com/mineral-oil-pc/
>>108835667I don't know if I'd even go as far as best bang for your buck.Half of the tests I've seen over the years on arctic fans don't bother to point out the annoying hum at specific RPM. It doesn't factor in in noise tests for some reason.I don't know if they managed to fix this recently but I still get that horseshit with arctic fans bought 2 years ago.
>>108835713>Half of the tests I've seen over the years on arctic fans don't bother to point out the annoying hum at specific RPM. It doesn't factor in in noise tests for some reason.Because cooler number better.Some people aren't as sensitive to noise as you.
>>108835741Noise is kind of the other point besides cooling. You remove that out of the equation and you have hundreds of other options that work just as well on space heaters, equally or better priced.
>>108832496that's from stargate fucking retard
>>108835800The issue with noise measurements is that you need reviewers to actually record the full audio spectrum of the noise, since different frequencies are perceived as noisier at the same volume. 99% reviews close out at dB measurements.
>>108836094To add to that, The SilentiumPC/Endorfy Fluctus fans were designed with psychoacoustics in mind. Those notches at the edges of the blades are meant to shift the noise frequencies to ones that we don't perceive as annoying. It's a pretty important factor in fans that reviewers, let alone manufacturers, don't pay much attention to.
>>108835693The acrylic always cracks eventually.
>>108836104And it's why I can't trust a lot of reviewers on this sort of shit. Louder but soothing very low frequency wind noise is better than some annoying buzzing. I didn't know about these Endorfy Fluctus fans, I'll have to take a look.
>>108836185Endorfy is a smaller Polish brand, originally known as SilentiumPC. They've been known here as the budget brand since forever but they've been recently expanding on the US market as well. I still have a Fera 3 cooler in my old PC that uses a Brutus M25 case. You'll have to look at European review outlets to see any Endorfy product reviews.
>>108832570>But can it last?Yeah. Mine are going fine. No rattling.
Noctua fan fans will say anything to quash the feeling they overpaid for case fans.
>>108832457>0dB @ < 5% fan speedlol
>>108836221I came across some SilentiumPC case before I was interested in grabbing.Anyways these don't seem all that much pricier than the Arctic ones, maybe I'll grab a couple to test them.
>>108836136so, what you're saying is if you're not a looksmaxxing faggot and use something like metal this is perfect?
>>108832457BeQuiet makes your childrens toys like Noctua and Arctic irrelevant.
I still don't get the point of spending so much in fans when anything at 100% is loud regardless and most anything at sub 800 rpm is quiet enough where everything else is a nuisance.Funnily enough I also have some cheap and dirty thermalright fans in a NAS that has been running in a closet for 2 years now and they have actually gotten quieter.
>>108836231>Noctua fan fans will say anything to quash the feeling they overpaid for case fans.We don't have to because most of us bought fans 3-16 years ago and used them across 3-4 different rigs and they are still working fine without fucked bearings like every other cooling fan.
I replaced my arctic fans with noctua fans. I find whatever noise comes from the noctua fans much less annoying. Also, there's a lot of discussion of noise, but don't noctua fans have the best static pressure or whatever? noise is one thing, but a fan's performance matters.
>>108836263cases should be metal anyway, electronic stuff should have wannabe faraday cages
>>108832570I have two OG NH-D15 from the release year that are still running as quiet as day one. I decided to buy Artic for a server a few years ago and they started emitting a really fucking annoying high pitch noise when running at low RPM after a bit over a year of use.
>noctua costs 50% more>noctua lasts twice as long>noctua is quieterseems like a good deal
fans don’t matterfan curves matterleave them barely running until you are near a thermal limit then blast them full.no matter what it’s going to be loud. fortunately you don’t have to listen to it 80% of the time
>>108836237If it's a fluid bearing being able to spin slowly is actually a useful feature because the vast majority of wear happens when starting or stopping the fan.My Asus motherboard has a feature to measure the minimum speed each fan can spin at without stalling and iirc for every one of my Noctua fans it's somewhere between 10 and 15%, 5% would be great.
Thermaltake Toughfan 12 Pro is nice
>>108834903Arctic is not a budget brand, it's one of the more solid choices in cooling without forcing you to splurge on stupid gimmicks.Other fans are marginally better but Arctic does its job well at its price point.Noctua only exists because they stuck with big ass air cooling when everyone else jumped over to AIOs. Nowadays they're even obsolete on the air cooling department.
>>108832477I use geothermal cooling myself
So allegedly these processors are pumping hundreds of watts of energy into the air and you're telling me nobody has figured out a way to harness the buoyancy of the hotter air for fan free operation?
>>108837730>Nowadays they're even obsolete on the air cooling department.Yeah, Thermaltake offers better performance than the NH-D15 at a fraction of the cost. Personally I'm an airfag cuz the less failure points the better so I have a PA 120 SE I got a good deal for on Ali, but if I were to get an AIO I'd definitely go with Arctic, right now they're basically dominating the market.
>>108832477>>108832496>>108835931bait so insanely shit I felt compelled to reply
>>108837730>Nowadays they're even obsolete on the air cooling department.NH-U12A outperforms most rads and is immune to failure.
>>108832457>BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>108837762do some research. it's been done.
>>108833139Did you forget to set the fan curve? I have P12 Maxes and they're almost entirely silent, but if you just let them run with the stock fan curve and let them ramp up to 3300RPM it'll sound like you've got an F14 in your room.
>>108837988Whoops, I meant the P14 Max*
>>108837988NTA, I have two P12 Max on my GPU, one on case exhaust, and two P14 Max on the intake. I took some time to tune the fan curves to sit on a light hum amd ~30C on idle and not go jet mode under full load. The system is both cool and quiet. Manual fan curve tuning is a must, and that's why FanControl is so much better over BIOS settings. You can tune your shit as you're running test loads to tune your system in just right.
>>108838030which cpu and gpu do you have?
>>108838276i5-12400 and a 3090. The cooler is overkill for the CPU, I know, but I'm considering upping to a i9-12900K with a contact frame where the extra cooling would be beneficial. It's a B660 mobo but it should suffice. The GPU I deshrouded just to keep it more tamed, 120mm fans have better work culture and two of them do the job just as well. It's a proper bodge, the fans are attached by zip ties and are connected directly to the GPU with an AliExpress adapter splitter.
>>108838305so your cpu could be cooled with whatever intel ships for free. of course you don't need high fan speed.
>>108838337lol, the stock Intel cooler would thermal throttle the CPU. The previous cheapo tower cooler did just fine, but I wanted to futureproof. Still, both the case fans and GPU fans need to ramp up on heavier loads to audible levels since that's still ~300W TDP even after undervolting, and I tuned my fans pretty damn well for that.Once I get a higher TDP CPU I'll simply do the same to ensure the right balance of thermals/noise ratio, throw a load, adjust the curve, look at the thermals, listen to the noise, rinse and repeat until the curve is just right when under regular use.
>>108836263Think about how you're going to service it or drain it. There's no benefits compared to a regular open loop.
>>108838614Jessie, what the fuck are you talking about? I replied in the context of the acrylic fishtank. Replace it with an appropriately sized industrial food tub or something, that was my suggestion. Or are you actually saying that destroying the acrylic is standard practice to drain such a setup?
>>108838614>>108838716Both of you post like niggers
>>108836720>quieterDoesn't win any noise normalised tests these days. Sometimes not even in the air category.>costs 50% moreArctic P12 Pro £35 for 5. £7 each.Noctua NF-A12 £31 for 1.Costs 350% more.
>>108838806>noise normalizedIt wins or is among the best in most tests.More importantly, Noctua has a lower noise floor.>Noctua NF-A12 £31 for 1some of the well-performing noctua fans are around $15
>>108838806>Doesn't win any noise normalised tests these days.It's in the upper quadrant in nearly every review and the profile of the noise matters more than the absolute dB values.
>none of you know
>>108832536Water carries heat way better than air. You use it to control the heat and move it somewhere better to cool down. It's more efficient and quieter than just using fans alone. Your cars engine runs on the same principle.
