AI didn't kill anything, the only one who contrls how you think or feel is yourself. YOU did it, YOU are repsonsible, YOU just don't want to admit it.

>>108836581
Yeah this guy sounds like a faggot, I get dopamine using agents to code while I passively play hardcore abuse porn on my other monitor

>>108836946
There are unironically worse ways to spend your time.

>>108836946
It aint pretty, but it pays the bills

total chance victory.

>>108836581
I think it's disingenuous to pretend that an artist/hobbyist ONLY does something because they enjoy the process. The idea that the work they do has real value because the product can only be made in a certain way makes it feel more special, and that's going to have at least some influence on the amount of satisfaction it brings them. If you can't see why a computer doing the equivalent of a week of their work in 30 seconds would be completely demoralizing, you're ignoring basic human psychology and motivation.

>>108837290
Nah, I just think people like you are retarded. Subhumans like you pretend to be all for "progress", but then when actual progress comes along you start coping and moaning.
>If you can't see why a computer doing the equivalent of a week of their work in 30 seconds would be completely demoralizing
can't believe you typed that out and thought you were cooking, kek
absolute subhuman retard

>>108836572
Tfw I just like making shit and vibe coding or slopcoding or whatever you want to call it just lets me make fun little shits faster. I don't care if others use what I make or if I even finish, just to watch autocorrect on crack build something while I middle-manage is amusing to me

>>108836572
Damn, anti-ai bros sure sound gay and low-T

>>108838214
How did you manage to also sound like that while being pro ai?
@grok

>>108836572
lmao

>>108836572
It’s like paying a video game you enjoy and deciding to use a cheat, then instantly become disinterested in playing the game anymore because the cheat exposed how meaningless playing the game is

>>108836572
get into hardware its not a cheap hobby but its the skill AI cannot recreate easily especially because docs and knowledge are locked away.

>>108836971
ChanceChads just keep winning

>>108838254
Exactly my thought

>>108838232
because he's ginger.
-grok

Down goes readchan, down goes readchan.

This just in, read chad are committing mass suicide everywhere

>>108836572
In my experience, using AI has largely enabled me to skip the gayest part of programming. The gayest part being trying to cobble faggot ass libraries together. I already *know* I fucking need this library to do, but I first need to wade through documentation, Stack Overflow, or the source code itself if I'm really shit out of luck. Now I can just ask for an implementation, get one, and I can give the yay/nay if it's suitable for my needs. If these faggots were more honest with themselves, they were copy-pasting shit this entire time and AI has largely made that process instantaneous relative to Googling.

People today who say AI has replaced programming entirely are idiots. There's no fucking way this shit is ready to replace developers. I've caught AI trying to introduce shit like race conditions, IDORs, open redirects, and code that can lead to data inconsistency (if the application were to unexpectedly terminate). A developer's mind is still required to guide it to make an application that isn't a pile of dogshit. But if you're a retarded faggot who can literally do nothing else other than copy-paste other people's shit, then yeah coding is largely dead. Take your shit and get out of this industry.

>>108838851
>If these faggots were more honest with themselves, they were copy-pasting shit this entire time and AI has largely made that process instantaneous relative to Googling.
That's exactly my problem with AI: it is always compared to doing everything by hand with 0 knowledge or documentation or internet available. The real comparison metric is: is it faster/better than stack overflow copy-paste, github clone and google? I would hope so, but nope. Because it's wrong too often and needs to be bullied into even finding the right library, let alone the right version of it, only to be bullied into stopping the hallucinations.

>>108838893
Legit criticism, I have encountered cases such as this lol.

>>108836572
I find AI coding really tiring in ways I don't enjoy. I enjoy the process of working out my own issues more than yelling at AI like I'm managing junior devs. It's like old forums vs reddit. Yes, they're both places to discuss and post, but one is much less fun.

>>108837290
It's also very disingenuous to pretend that we should give a shit about that. Every invention in human history has hurt some subhuman's feefees because
>what do you mean fire warms people? I can't earn a living by hugging people so that they stay warm?
>what do you mean the wheel makes me, the guy that puts wooden logs beneath shit to move it, obsolete?
etc etc.

>>108836572
bro programming is more fucking fun then ever why the fuck is this retard complaing that everything got easier and better immeasurably?

>>108839335
You should really, really read a history book before opining on anything again.

Is there a new 4chan app for itoddlers like myself? I'm not a fan of chance.

>>108839449
yeah it's called >>>/g/ you fucking fuck

>>108839459
Let's rub our dicks together like we're trying to start a fire.

I maintain a big project like OP's pic and I feel much the same. Not sure if I should just give up on programming, but I do not know of a life that does not involve programming anymore...

>>108838254
>one updoot + reddit gold for you, my dear sir

Except its not, its a fuckinng tool, like abstracted coding languages were/are.

Devs who can't embrace it are legit choosing to fall behind and will be destroyed by a generation of devs who were born in it

>>108836572
After some introspection I realized I went into programming because of the feeling of control. That control gives me comfort. Writing code is like building a house, brick by brick, where I know exactly how different parts work.

An AI agent is a middleman. It may or may not follow the orders - maybe it's misinterpreted (since English is misinterpretable unlike C++). It makes programming stressful because of the uncertainty it introduces.

It's fate for people like me to become builders. If they don't want us to build in the digital world, we'll do it in the physical world.

>>108839515
>devs born in it
bro, ppl born in it will have an IQ of 65. they won't make shit, they'll just learn to prompt into oblivion

>>108839518
Why dont you just tell it what you want with samples of what you would of written? Or just use it in an IDE for completions/debugging? Idgi

>>108839504
I decided the project I'm currently working on will be my last.

What project is it you're maintaining?

https://github.com/Liteb0t/Mediaboard <-- here is mine

I already started putting more effort into learning real languages rather than programming languages, it will be better for me in the long run.

>>108839545
Well then, there will be a space for people with higher IQs to wield said tool with efficiency and dexterity...the work will speak for itself.

Again, retards can use all kinds of things and they'll end up with a shit product in the end, a dumb ass with a hammer and a genius with a hammer doesn't nullify the hammer

>>108839551

The Limine bootloader (https://github.com/Limine-Bootloader/Limine), amongst others, but that's the biggest.

>>108836572
Sounds like a massive retarded faggot. Genuinely embarrassing
>aieee I don't like aislop I just vibecoded some garbage and cucked my toy project and it hurt my feelings

>>108839558
The problem is that there will be no need for anyone wielding the hammer at this rate at some point. AI is inherently anti-human.

>>108836572
>LITERALLY RAPED BY AI
kek!!!!

>>108839583
(nta)
what? for real? damn, you must be extremely good.

>>108836572
Castration ideologue got to him. Instead of utilizing AI and let agents improve the program with the increased rate of coding speed, they instead let themselves be demoralized by thinking "AI BAD"

Dumb anti AI cultist

>>108839551
>learning real languages rather than programming languages
thank you AI, we'll leave our computers and hang out with real humans again instead

>>108839549
I don't expect you to understand why, because you wouldn't get it. You and I are different.
When other kids would play with each other, I would either be building something or doing something repetitive, such as sliding a door back and forth repeatedly, which my mom told me about recently. I realised it explained a lot. I'm not saying I'm some kind of misunderstood genius, it's just how my brain works.

What you should know is people are different. Some think in words, others think in pictures. Some are good at multitasking, others are good at focusing on one thing. When someone behaves a certain way it won't always make sense to you.

>>108839635
Yes, for real. I made an empty signed commit in a test-1 branch in the repository.

>>108839707
I get differences, I just think using AI doesn't have to mean losing a feeling of control in your creation.

I'm a fucking retard and think in words and logic, I'd never let AI write something I could write myself, but it doesn't mean I cant supplement my writing and use it like a basic editor for that. It doesn't remove my love for writing or cheapen the feeling of fulfillment I get from writing something genuine.

But to each their own, I was mommies little special retard too, you just adapt to life's demands

>>108839595
I mean get it while you can and pivot as you must

>>108839730
The issue isn't in how (You) use it. For me, what demoralises me is how others use it, and how I could use it just like they use it an achieve the same result, perhaps... I am not sure, I am honestly just looking for guidance, and the fact that I am looking for guidance on /g/ should speak volumes.

>>108839738
You gotta remember your innate value isnt tied to the skill, its tied to your intelligence and thats above the skill. You gotta believe its applicable to anything you become obsessed with.

>>108839738
You can't control other people, you can only control yourself.

>>108839730
>I just think using AI doesn't have to mean losing a feeling of control in your creation
You're interpreting it as control over the end result rather than over the process. Picture, if you can, Tyrone Watermelon shooting ropes inside your Ukrainian mistress of a questionable age as you watch on - that's what it's like having AI generate code. I have no qualms about using AI as a search engine though.
>it doesn't mean I cant supplement my writing
I highly respect art as the product of the human mind's conscious decision-making, so it is with the utmost fervor that I oppose the use of AI in writing. When I read something, I want to know it was made by a human. Therefore I say unto you: kill yourself.

It is really tempting to just give up.

First we have the kurob drama, and now this

>>108839830
Ur a stupid fuck who thinks no great writer ever used an editor for punctuation, run ons, and just plain writer's tunnel vision.

Glad u cant find the spark in your passion, the world needs less of you sorry fucking losers

>>108839830
Jesus I was feeling sorry for you...no I can't imagine some gay shit like being cucked, I've lived plenty of relationships where my actual performance kept me relevant, not my idea of what the performance meant in some sort of self absorbed autistic manner

>>108839802
He just needs to be a victim cause his little obsession was made less special, he was ngmi

>>108839883
What else can even be said. Damn.
We must reject the notion and keep going despite everything.
But it is so difficult.

>>108839830
??? what someone else does has no impact on you, and wat you do has no impact on others.
you're trying to contorl anothe rhuman, that is gay.
stay on your own lane.

>>108840432
Ur a whiny faggot, kys

>>108840522
the only one whining is you

>>108838254
cheating in multiplayer fps games absolutely blackpilled me as its just an arms race to the bottom, if anything those up in the 1# and 2# on the leaderboard are basically cheaters except they hide their cheats really really well, i've had a couple people who caught on to the fact I was cheating however their entire fucking team would turn on them and kick them when I called them "mad cuz bad" or whatever the fuck to provoke them. honestly i die a little inside when this happens

>>108838254
so clout chaser mentality vs actual game enjoyer

>>108836572
It's genuinely concerning how fucking stupid the average person is when it comes to AI. A non-living computer script just ruined this guys life. LMAO. The average person fails the the turing test.

>>108836572
This has nothing to do with AI. He didn't want a programmer's high, he wanted to feel like a special snowflake for churning out all that code.

>>108836572
I spent years shilling this man only for him to commit a fagout and call it quits?

>>108841230
And tomorrow you are going back to use the app

>>108841264
I'm using it right now kek

>>108836572
ai wrote this, its fake n gai

>>108836572
it is insane how good these things are now
i had claude write me a semi complicated dockerfile for a multi stage node prod/dev multi target container
it did it perfectly the first time and took like 30 seconds
i spent half an hour trying to find things wrong with it and there were none

>>108841486
The dude in the screenshot would think that's a bad thing. Not wasting my time on this boring shit is a good thing.

>>108840320
If you don't see an issue with AI replacing humans in art/writing then you're the loser. It is more important than any material benefit AI might bring.
>>108840432
Are you being retarded on purpose?

>>108837342
Your progress in question is shit and you are faggot

>>108841500
I can see where he's coming from and it's a sentiment that isn't too rare. If you do something because you love the journey and they suddenly this essentially magic thing comes along and makes the journey 99% shorter, of course you're going to not enjoy it as much.

Also I think all of this is a massive canary in the coal mine. If these things can do this stuff perfectly the first time and with no real need for human supervision, then why the fuck do we need programmers anymore? Every time I use these things I have a sense of existential dread. This machine just does stuff that dudes are paid 6 figures to do. I truly believe that SWE is a dead man walking. I think most of the reason that most current SWEs still have jobs is that companies are lagging behind in the adoption and streamlining of these technologies. I'm a full on doomer.

>>108839717
Where's the AI-written code?

>>108841579
You have a sense of existencial dread because you think software development is about rewriting fizzbuzz faster every day.
There is no relation between your idea of it and what it is. GayI can't do even the most intern-core tasks even being prompted all day about it. Meanwhile it costs more than a principal dev does. 5x more outside the bay area to be precise.

>>108840738
It's a natural human desire to want to feel like you're doing something useful. If AI can do what he does easily then it takes the wind out of his sails which are needed to ride through the difficult parts.
If you've never had hard times when programming then you've never worked on a large project.

>>108841595
>you think software development is about rewriting fizzbuzz faster every day
I've seen this argument a lot. The "but writing code is the easiest part!" argument. If you're employed as a SWE, then what the fuck else are you doing but writing code? It's insane cope. People say they're "architecting" or "thinking about the code" or "in meetings" in addition to writing it. You no longer have to do that. You just talk to these things and they get you from point A to B.

>>108841627
Thanks for proving one of my two points. My other points is that the level of complexity of programming you're talking about doesn't even approach 'first day learning to code'-tier.

>>108841602
I have had hard times when programming, and I've worked on large codebases. I would welcome any tool that helps make my job easier. AI isn't even close to the point where it can analyze and write code on a large scale reliably. The fact that he lost motivation so easily means that he wasn't working on anything that's cognitively complex.

>>108840330
I put that in there as a joke, a better explanation would be that I prefer the hard, logical problem-solving of writing code, instead of tard-wrangling unpredictable agents. Although, what the performance means is at least as important as the end result.
I have a natural aptitude for the kind of deterministic logical reasoning that programming requires, but that talent is much less useful for prompting AI. I'm not saying I'm smart, I'm not even good at math - but I am a natural programmer. If I get into vibe-coding then suddenly the only thing that keeps me ahead of the pack is the crystallised knowledge I built up, and even that is largely irrelevant. My skills are better used elsewhere.

>>108839504
many devs left the industry after the dot com crash and never came back. if there is an ai crash, the same will happen again.

>>108841647
AI changes the type of work being done. It's not programming anymore.

>>108841627
>If you're employed as a SWE, then what the fuck else are you doing but writing code?
I've been building out my own SaaS and there's been *a lot* involved that isn't banging out lines in an IDE. These include
>Who is this for?
>What is my target audience interest in?
>How do I design this application to be user friendly?
>How do I design this application to be cost efficient?
>To be easy to deploy?
>To be fault tolerant?
>To be fast to use?
>How do I secure this application?
>How do I test it to make sure it works as intended between revisions?
>How am I alerted when the application goes down?
>How do I observe the application when running in an environment (local, dev, prod)
>What are the edge cases?
>Can a user potentially abuse a third-party API for one endpoint and knock out functionality for other users at unrelated endpoints?
There's just so, so many other questions I have to ask and I'd rather focus on than messing around with config files. If I can one-shot a Docker Compose file and spend the rest of my time answering any of these questions, I'm grateful.

I think questions such as "what the fuck is coding if it's done by an AI" is a reflection on what you believe coding is. If your job is to add features to a codebase (e.g. add an input box here, an endpoint there) then I can see why it would be an existential threat. A lot of that now can be done near an instant, and you just have to have the taste to decide if the code an LLM spat out for you is production ready. But if you're somebody who owns codebases, and know what you're doing, then it's a great tool that'll speed up development by cutting through the fat (e.g. reducing time messing around with configuration files, routine implementations, etc. etc.).

only fags still use 4chan
>t. speaking from experience

>>108841744
Can confirm. Am having gay sex rn.

I used to get really attached to programs I wrote, even if it was just uni assignments or simple user stories. I tried to write nice, elegant, optimized code.
Been using AI to assist in writing my code for a few years now and everything just feels like throwaway POC shit that I can simply not stand behind since the code quality of the slop that AI generates is so fucking garbage. It just dumps piles and piles of trash into what might have previously been a well thought out but perhaps unfinished architecture, changing it in ways that go completely against the earlier philosophy behind the codebase, completely destroying whatever beauty was there.
And since the code is often kind of functional and there's always time pressure you're usually kinda forced to go with it since it has fucked up your codebase so badly undoing it and then redoing it yourself takes an unacceptable amount of time. In addition to your thoughts being polluted by whatever AI slop solution you just witnessed, making it harder to come up with your own (novel) solutions.

So yeah I can easily see how using AI sucks all the fun out of programming, despite it not even being able to write good software systems. It does look a bit bleak right now.

>>108841588
I have used AI to assist with code generation and research since late last year. 10.5.0 is the last release containing no AI code at all. Anything before that was written by yours truly and contributors.

I still manually review all the code AI generates, and still write code manually from time to time, but it's now basically a "hmmm I wish someone would work on X and send me a PR since I don't have time/skills/knowhow/will to work on it" -> "Claude please do it"/"Yes, honey" sort of deal.

It makes me happy on the one hand that I was able to achieve things that I had been wanting to get done for a long time, but it also doesn't feel personal. It doesn't feel like it is "I" doing it, I am just reviewing it.

>>108841722
Like this post says, it changes the type of work being done. It's no longer programming, it's essentially reviewing PRs from assistants and sometimes telling them to do things differently. Just not the same.

And beyond that, someone that isn't even reviewing the code being generated and just plain vibe coding could tell some LLM "hey, generate me a bootloader" and it would probably do it. Very demoralising as someone who's been programming their whole life essentially.

>>108841733
>If your job is to add features to a codebase (e.g. add an input box here, an endpoint there) then I can see why it would be an existential threat.
I guess I should have explained it better but aren't these most SWE positions? That's my point. Most SWEs are probably not necessary anymore. You just need a couple senior architects with AI to do all this stuff. That's why I said I'm a doomer. I think AI will wipe out a huge chunk of current SWE jobs, leaving an even worse talent squeeze.

>>108841997
Point to the code or PRs that are AI generated. How come nobody can ever do that?

>>108841998
No, even juniors don't do that. By the way you must be 18 or older to browse this site.

>muh existential crisis
just keep prompting the clanker, retard

>>108836572
Damn, this negro sounds like a humungous faggot. I wouldn't use such a guy's app even if the only other alternative is the 100% vibe coded slopware.

>>108836581
>AI didn't kill anything, the only one who contrls how you think or feel is yourself. YOU did it, YOU are repsonsible, YOU just don't want to admit it.
Low-IQ take. Social consensus absolutely controls what normies think and feel and there's nothing wrong with this, most people are not supposed to be le heckin' unique individuals. A society that causes its average member to give up on creativity is a subhuman society.

>>108841998
These are or at least were most SWE positions. It's adult daycare for a lot of them. That's why so many of these jobs are getting axed.

>>108841998
>I guess I should have explained it better but aren't these most SWE positions?
I'd say even then you're still probably *okay*. I can imagine a senior architect would prefer not fucking around with a malfunctioning date picker. The thing about AI is that it has no idea what the business context for your application is. It has no idea what data needs to be accessible by who, it has no idea how it needs to be accessed, it has no idea what the table schema needs to be, it has no idea of its scale, how many users will be accessing it concurrently, etc. etc. These are all things that you explicitly tell it, and you'd often find it differing from your business requirements because it either didn't know what they were or it made a best effort to fill in the blanks. Even in the example of putting in some shitty input box somewhere, you'd use AI to kick it out but you'd have to make sure that your intended audience understands how to use it and that it actually works (e.g. across browsers, across devices, doesn't break on unexpected inputs etc. etc.). There's just so much more to this field than rote implementation that coding agents just don't cover unless you explicitly tell it. Non-technical people don't know what to cover, they don't know what to ask, they don't know the most valuable problems to tackle and in what order. That's what you're hired to do as a software engineer, to navigate through a field of landmines without blowing you and your client's legs off in the process.

>>108842091
>A society that causes its average member to give up on creativity is a subhuman society.

Most people aren't very creative to begin with. The average person won't accomplish anything great. Why would their thoughts on creativity matter?

>>108836572
>it pushed out thousands of lines of code
>none of it worked but it made me le sad
What a gay.

>>108840738
>>108841647
Cagie wagie.

>>108842110
>Most people aren't very creative to begin with
Ok, if you're that autistic, let me make an amendment:
>its average creative member

>>108842134
Nothing to do with autism, you're moving goalposts. Regardless, even society's average "creative" member is producing mediocre output. If you're worse than AI, then you're not creative. You're just copying other people like AI.

>>108842154
Your inability to interpret a statement in context has something to do with autism, I'm sure.
>irrelevant regurgitated corporate talking point
Subhuman detected.

>>108842164
ESL detected. Don't blame others for your poor communication skills.

if you're a swe take a look at your coworker on the right, then on the left - only one of you will keep your job.
this process will repeat every year going forward until there is 1 swe per company.

>>108842185
>t. Americoon nonwhite

>>108836572
>i had the full context of the codebase, and i knew if i started making changes, that would disappear.

I feel this one all too deeply too. For personal projects especially doing cathedral building. Ai is slop that ships and architecture becomes a diceroll you hope you dont have to break apart after its vibed ones reqs . Once you hand over that to the ai you stopped cathedral building and ditched the quest of finding the right slice- and the joy of programming subsides to an anxiety of uncombed edgecases

>>108841787
Well said

>>108842091
cope for being a clout chasing normdroid

>>108843002
>arguing with the voices
I accept your concession.

>>108836572
What a fucking pussy.
>Programmer’s high
Fucking what? I don’t understand how people can be this oblivious to their own motivations. I write code because I enjoy learning how to do it and I enjoy problem solving. Idk what this faggot’s motivation was, but I’m guessing it was getting high off his own farts pretending that he was a l33t programmer. Sorry AI took away your power trip, you absolute fairy.

>>108843109
careful, speaking facts and logic qualifies you as low iq or retarded around these parts. That one guy will be around to correct you shortly.

>>108840585
im still banned from rust after 15 years because I had a cheat where you would press a button and it would randomly kill one person on the server. My cat stepped on the button one time and held it down and the chat log filled up with every single person except me, dying

I don't know what Read Chan is and why should I care about some random burn out developer blaming AI for his lack of motivation.

Still using Kuroba-dev don't care

>>108843331
that's crazy man

>>108842226
I'm the only swe in my team. I'm working directly under the CTO.
I guess I won the battle royale.

>>108838254
Why are you treating engineering as entertainment instead of means of solving problems?
If you just want to have fun do some competitive programming or play Zachtronics.
If you are solving problems then AI is just one of the tools in your toolbox. It's definitely not a gold bullet for everything, but it's pretty useful and can save a lot of time. Just like Regex.

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>>108843368
>under the CTO
>I guess I won the battle royale.
son...

>>108843386
You aren't solving any problems. You're the problem and you're being solved by mindless token regurgitators.

>>108843466
He doesn't write code. He is just one of the 3 chairman/owners of the company, he is just most technical of them instead of just being a dumb sales person.

>>108843468
My FOSS projects solve problems and they are used by people. Idk how many because I don't have telemetry but I see them every now and then, including /g/.

>>108843495
>My FOSS projects solve problems
That doesn't contradict my observation that...
>You aren't solving any problems. You're the problem and you're being solved by mindless token regurgitators.

>>108843511
>You're the problem and you're being solved by mindless token regurgitators.
That statement makes no sense in this context.

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>>108843485
he will think he can do it himself. he will fire you.
he will realise his mistake. then be too embarrassed to hire you back, so someone else will get your position.
cto's are retarded.

>>108843485
You do realize that a CTO can do your entire job with AI, right? Just use a fraction of the time saved by not having to manage you to prompt an AI. Easy peasy. Start updating your resume friend.

>>108843520
>>108843524
He tried, he can't. I don't do typical get jira task, estimate and do it anyway. I talk with clients, I prepare prototypes, demos, I do devops, sysadmin, optimize cloud, etc.
Can AI do all of that given enough prompting, double checking, etc? Of course, but who has time for that? Definitely not him. And that's where I come in because with my experience I will be 10x more efficient in my AI usage than he can.

>>108843519
It does, though. The only real use case for """AI""" is to replace you and other retards who do nothing more than to shit out thin wrappers around problems that have been solved a thousand times over by men capable of thinking.

>>108842226
idk I work for a university and they can't find enough devs
also there's no cto

>>108843550
>The only real use case for """AI""" is to replace you
Replace me at doing my hobby? Then what, replace me in building my house in Minecraft kek

>>108843563
>Replace me at doing my hobby?
Yeah. You've made it clear that the value of your hobby depends on all those people (totally in the room with us right now) who use your FOSS projects.

>>108843542
You really are so clueless it's cute! I especially like the part where you do the same thing every bottom of the barrel hire does and think you're so special for it!

>>108843585
Even if you remove the objective value of my work by providing a superior alternative, it won't remove the subjective value of having custom software perfectly tailored to my needs.
This is something many newfags can't comprehend. You shouldn't make projects to please others, you should make useful projects for yourself, and if it really is good, others will find some use in it.
In the end of the day, all I care is for there to exist more, good, useful software. If you can make it then by any means do it. The more people and AIs spend their time making good quality FOSS software, the better for everyone.

>>108843587
>every bottom of the barrel hire does
Dunno where you work but it sounds like a crazy place if that's what any hire is tasked with. Good luck! You will need it.

>>108843642
>, it won't remove the subjective value of having custom software perfectly tailored to my needs.
If that were true, why did you feel the urge to mention all the imaginary users of your AI-genned slop?

>>108843652
>why did you feel the urge to mention all the imaginary users
>>108843468
Claimed that I don't solve any problems. The fact that people use my software is a a proof that my solution does in fact solve their problem.

>of your AI-genned slop?
???
There is no AI generated code in my repo.

>>108843707
>The fact that people use my software is proof ...
>>108843642
> the subjective value of having custom software perfectly tailored to my needs.
>This is something many newfags can't comprehend. You shouldn't make projects to please others
Kek.

>>108843386
>If you are solving problems then AI is just one of the tools in your toolbox.

>>108843707
>There is no AI generated code in my repo.
Kek. Anyone else notice the sharp degeneration in spambot quality? I thought the """AI""" bubble wasn't bursting.

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>>108843719
There is no contradiction in any of these statements.

>>108843728
There is also no contradiction in any of these statements.
I use AI but I also have no AI code in my repo. Intriguing, isn't it?

>>108839583
>Boot menu is snailcat

>>108840585
the feeling you experienced was self loathing because you were a piece of shit and got away with it. it kills the soul, the only way to be happy is to not be a piece of shit

>>108836572
are there any tranny built 4chan apps? they should be pretty safe from being shutdown cause they're so anti ai

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>>108843775
> Shit-tier shatbot hallucinates
Quote the part of my post that says there's any contradiction in those statements.

>>108838851
which ai are you using?

>>108844087
Ah ok. I assumed it was your attempt at pointing out contradictions in my posts. If that wasn't the case and you just wanted to reiterate my points then there is no disagreement between use I presume.

>>108844217
I don't think anything needs to be done beyond putting your statements side by side. On the tiny off chance you're not a broken bot, end your life tonight.

>>108836572
>i stopped developing my App because developing it is too easy and fast now
Most bullshit reason i ever heard.
Even if he doesn't like it, he can still keep it going and add features even faster now and it would only take a few minutes... if what he says is true.

My guess is:
The AI vomited 20k lines of slop on his project, with various little issues that he himself can't track down anymore, so he is in an endless spiral of throwing more and more slop at it.

>>108844795
ai schizo code do be like that

>>108838254
Never happened to me

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>>108843386
> an employed IT professional
>>108843468
> an unlikable faggot who cant pass an interview

>>108846653
>an employed saar

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>>108846689
Lol, the jeets I work around are complete ass at using AI, honestly most people are and its a testament to how people are falling behind for their own laziness/price

I'll post hand though, ur probably a nigger

>>108846712
>i'm not like the other jeetas

>>108846718
>im not a poor nig nog
Post ebt card u poor nigger

>>108839558
This guy gets it.
People who are true masters of their chosen craft are never truly threatened by the arrival of new tools. They will pick those new tools up and see what they can do with them.
People who are crying about vibecoders are insecure faggots who are just now starting to realise that maybe they aren't as talented as they think they are.

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>this is brahmin hand, saaar!

>>108836572
>Readchan is still receiving updates
So why should I care?
>No more features
Did he even add anything new? He recently added a way to save threads to read them offline, he probably used AI for that. Just use your slop machine to update it for you or add more "features". Why is this even a problem? This just means he has more free time for other hobbies.

>>108846747
Lmao v good

>>108839558
>a dumb ass with a hammer and a genius with a hammer doesn't nullify the hammer
kind of a poor example. john homeowner can still pick up a hammer if he wants but john homeowner will never be allowed to advance as the art of the hammer is gatekept by advanced hammer wielders.

>>108846745
They forget this isnt woodworking or creative arts....the tools evolve endlessly and the skill that got you were you are now are quickly made obsolete, but if u really love technology, really love making the latest tools bend to your will, you shouldn't be threatened, you should be excited

>>108846810
only because you have access to it right now because that access is subsidized by trillion dollar corporations. when that access is cut off and only they have access to superior intellect then you'll be angry.

>>108846805
I didnt type it out well enough, but the idea is there. The took is an extension of the wielder, the level of ability with said tool will always be capped at the wielders capacity

>>108846813
And do you not need to feed yourself tomorrow? If your worst case scenario is real, make your money now and position yourself for the worst

But I dont believe that'll be the case

>>108846829
I will be fine, the children who grow up after me will not be.

>>108846833
Isnt that what every generation says? Arent you selling the human spirit a little short?? Or ur some doomer atheist who thinks every doom is just le ten years away

>>108846839
what will the entry point be for kids who have no access to knowledge because it has been vacuumed up, silo'd, and the only way to access that knowledge is to give megacorp $500 per month? in the past you join an aol chat group or irc server and learn and grow from there. what will kids of the future have once ai is complete?

>>108846854
It might be my general optimism but there are skills and features a human gains from genetics/nurture that is usually very able to overcome the limitations society puts on them

Now niggers and retards might suffer, but I dont think thats within the scope of what you should care about. Tend your garden.

>>108836572
Use case for a 220k LoC 4chan reader app?

>>108846712
I fear not the man who has stroked 10,000 cocks once, but I fear the man who has stroked one cock 10,000 times.

>>108846938
I did work your dad pretty hard that one time

>>108846747
kek

Tbh, given the existence of AI, I'd drop any code I have to maintain, since anyone can just use AI for my job and just make something new without caring about maintaining code. There is literally no reason to maintain any code at all. Any faggot with AI can patch any bug, so let them do it while you keep making new stuff using or not AI.

>>108841571
Keep malding

>>108844091
Claude Code :-)

>>108848662
No joke, I wrote something in 2 days that used to take me 5, and it is in better quality because AI puts in more efforts that I would ever do

>>108849084
Given the quality of current AI, it really says quite a lot about you, pajeet. Even as a member of your kind.

>>108849197
You just outted yourself as someone who doesn't have access to the better models. You get what you pay for poor boy.

You are the jeet whose calling other white people jeet as a distraction.

>>108849219
I have pre-release access for anthropic and google models because I work professionally as an "AI" """engineer""" making those crappy apps you defend all day as the greatest thing since sliced bread (it's actually worst-in-class but suckers like you keep paying for them so eh).
Nice self-own pajeet.

>>108849298
What a paaaaajeeeet. Then what's the name of the latest model that shows up on the internal IDE