Windows 8.1 is even faster than modern Linux.RAM usage is only 600-700 MB when idle.But I couldn’t find any drivers for Wi-Fi or NVIDIA on a modern laptop... I’d use Windows 8.1 for the rest of my life if I could find the drivers.
>>108843875what are those videos, anon?
>>108843875hmmm
Okay and Windows XP used about 14 MB of RAM when idle and was just as capable as any other computer until about 10 years ago. I don't really get your point. Wow you've discovered software gets twice as slow every 17 months congratulations.
>108844037industry shill schizo uses /g/ too
it is not any better with amd gpu anon..
>>108843875Have you tried installing Win10 drivers? If not through an installer, then extract the driver files and use Device Manager to update it manually
Low ram usage just means the OS isnt caching anything for use, which means its slower. /g/ is retarded
>>108844968holy retard, it just meas you can load more shit without collapsing the system
>>108844968Or maybe has less spyware and bloatware.
>>108844968if your OS GUI needs to pre-cache hundreds of MB of data before anything is even open to appear responsive on a computer made after 2005 then it's jeetware
>>108843875windows 8 sucked ass as badly as most loonix tho
>>108843875>RAM usage is only 600-700 MB when idle.Isn't that pretty much what Xfce and similar DE's use? Hell, if the info on that image is correct and it's has cached 1.3GB, it uses more than modern KDE.
I miss its start menu, yes I know it got shat on by everyone but I liked it. I want it back.
>>108845678>I want it back.it's called full screen start menu in windows 10
>>108845812Is not the same by any stretch of the imagination, I can't make the tiles wide, only squares are allowed now. And I can't change the tile for an image either.
>>108843875Window 8 has less features than modern linux. You literal discovered a nothing burger.
>>108844968He's probably poor / 3rd world, so to these types, anything that can leave room on their <= 4gb RAM shitboxes is elite.
its not faster than my 2k loc autism wm
>>108843875Ram usage is like 70MB on my system if i don't start any program, and that's with a graphical session...
>>108843875why would you compare old windows to current linux instead of linux of the same time?
>>108843875Those videos look interesting.
>>108843875Astolfo?
>>108843875Can Claude figure out a way to get Windows 10 drivers backported to W8.1 or is it not that good yet?
>less ram usage = more speedwebm>>108845489evicting memory pages cost nothing.
>>108845665My headless debian 13 with just a ssh server installed uses 600mb.
>>108843948lul
I always thought Windows 8.1 was Microsoft's best OS and everyone laughed at me
>>108848766more ram usage on idle indicates that part of the OS using this memory is webshit tier bloatwarea win32 application using <10MB of RAM does not need to have hundreds of mb of memory pre-cached to open instantly512MB of RAM was enough to run photoshop cs2, utorrent, skype call with screen sharing and opera 9.x web browser with dozens of tabs open at the same time, on an HDD
>>108843875>RAM usage is only 600-700 MB when idleYou can easily go below that on modern Linux: Trinity Desktop idles at about 400 MiB and if you just use something like Openbox then you can idle at 100-200 MiB.
>>108844968The opposite, on modern operating systems the kernel caches files automatically. Doing that a second time in userspace is retarded and wasteful.
>>108849116>you could do 300+ tabs in Opera Presto and Firefox v3 on a 4GB system, including the OSNowadays you're lucky if you can open 20 tabs, without accounting for the OS. I get it why vibecoding is acceptable nowadays, when human written code is barely any better.
>>108849116> webshit tier bloatwarenot necessary. the kernel may keep a catalog of libraries (.dll on windows), which is why starting a program a second time is sometime much faster (eg: VLC player) because the needed .dll are still in the catalog. kernel also keep a cache of files in memory (https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/windows-internals-fifth/9780735625303/ch10.html paywalled, sorry)
>>108844037That's really wrong. In no world does XP use 14MB of RAM unless it's completely crippled.This screenshot isn't even XP. It's Windows 2003 that has been user debloated right after boot, so it's lighter than XP even if you were to debloat the latter.
>>108844968seventh psot best post/thread
>>108850734Well I used it on 128MB of RAM, you have 2GB, that's always affected NT-kernel Windows.
>>108850800>Well I used it on 128MB of RAMIt ran like absolute dogshit. I still remember the world of difference it made when I got 256MB but it only became pleasurable to use with 512MB though with 384MB it was mostly fine.
>>108848971Technically because 8/8.1 are the support cutoff point for a lot of modern(ish) programs that would not run on wXP/w7. I consider it the best version because it seems to be the last to support late standalone versions of visual studio that don't bug you to login with a ms account for continued use. Try using any of the newer ones for more than a month offline and ms will cockblock you from opening your projects. Plus ms paywalled older non-standalone versions of vs behind some lame subscription. They really want everybody plugged in to the botnet 24/7.
>>108850800Yeah I'm sure that was a pleasant experience. That's not 2GB of RAM by the way, Windows XP (and 2000/2003) counted commit charge not physical RAM. That includes the page file. The screenshot is literally over 20 years old so I don't know the the exact system that was from.That said, 1885M of commit charge most likely translates to 768M of physical RAM. (RAM*1.5+RAM, it's close enough)
Share the vids, OP.
>>108843875And no browser supports it anymore, and lots of software including Steam.
>>108844067/qa/ lost.
>>108844968Truth. If your RAM isn't sitting at 99-100% usage 24/7 you're a fucking retard.RAM exists to be filled. Modern systems cache aggressively for a reason. The more you use, the faster everything runs. Keeping it under 70% means you're throwing money away and bottlenecking yourself for no reason.
>>108850903>you're throwing money awayMakes sense.>bottlenecking yourself for no reasonDoesn't.If you're not using all your RAM, that isn't a bottleneck. It's a mismatch in use case and RAM available. Having too much free RAM isn't going to make a computer run worse or prevent other parts at operating their peak performance.Bottleneck in computing is when something is holding the rest of your system back from its peak performance.
>>108850903If your RAM is sitting 99-100% on idle, you're a fucking retard. Throw your computer away.
>>108850800>Well I used it on 128MB of RAMMy first computer has an 1.2 Ghz Pentium 4 CPU with 256 MB RAM and the experience was fucking miserable on both 2000 and XP.
>>108850938Spoken like a woman who only uses her puter for facebook games. Get the fuck off of my 4chan, granny.
>>108843875I liked windows 8 and 8.1Windows 10 to me felt like a downgrade and I left Windows entirely.
>>108850896>literally became so based that it got kicked off the site like a right-wing board on plebbitThat's called winning.
