>be me>dual boot to Linux>spend 4 hours trying to install something>break everything>ask AI for help>unhelpful as always>nuke the distro>boot back to WindowsYup, another productive day in learning Linux. A few more weeks and I should get the hang of it
>>108844988just keep practicing and you'll get there eventually
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you'll never 'get' Linux until you are ready to leave Windows permanently
>>108845018Once I know how to install something properly then I will
>>108845032may I ask what are you trying to install
>>108845041i hope you're asking just so we can laugh at op. this isn't tech support.
>>108845041Inputaction. I'm on a laptop and I need 3 finger gesture to work on wayland. I tried to follow the installation guide, but everytime I pasted a command code, it gave me an error. I asked AI for help, and it kept giving me command codes, each giving me more error, which prompted it to give me more codes to fix those errors. Installing stuff on CachyOS is really hard for a beginner
>>108845067>I need 3 finger gesture to workusecase?
>>108845180>usecase?wuz dat?
>>108844988>using loonixGrow up man
>>108845067>installing stuff on CachyOS is really hard for a beginnerno, but installing weird software like this ishttps://www.zhaojian.net/en/linux-kde-plasma-wayland-mouse-gestures-inputactions/
>>108845259Oh yeah I tried this too, it didn't work either. When I'd try to record the gesture it'd give me an error
>>108845196I've heard enough, you're coming with me
>>108845272did you try reading the error
>>108845291Yeah. Give me a second to dual boot and I'll paste the code here
>>108844988Think about it for a while. How much time would it save you to use those gestures over a span of a full year. And is it worth it if you have to spend hours or days to set that shit up?Maybe try without it? Trackpads are gay anyways, consider using mouse-compatible gestures. They are supported out of the box in Gnome and KDE. You flick your pointer to the corner of the screen and it does what you set it up to do. Very easy to get used to it.
>>108845067>CachyOSMay as well install Astra Linux, no difference.
>>108844988pretty much - faffing around and breaking shit is best way to learn!
>>108845327>muh GAYmijing!1!!! distro>performs identical to any other perfectly fine "base" distro>introduces bugs due to weird configs and additions slopped out by snake oil salesmen
>>108845291The error is 'name is not achievable' when I press record, before even doing gestures
>>108845323I swipe I reflexively and swap between several windows in a second. I don't have to hover my cursor at the top corner then manually select the app I want. That's the way I want it
>>108845374It works by default on kde plasma. I have no idea whatever the fuck you were doing
>>108845380The option for 3 finger gesture to use as ALT+TAB is not in KDE. If it is, please take a screencap of it, so I know where it is and save myself the trouble
>>108845358yeah i have no idea. try launching it via terminal so you can see if there's output printed. we also cant see it, screenshot might helpthis program is solo developed by some random polish man on github so i'm not surprised if there's bugs
>>108845339I literally don't even understand how someone can use Windows but break Linux. Like, what are people even doing? Surely they would also break Windows but that doesn't seem to happen. Maybe the fact that a lot of basic stuff just doesn't work on Linux causes people to just blindly smash their keyboard out of frustration.
>>108845458Appreciate the help. Sadly, I'm a bit busy at the moment to do tinkering. I'll get on to it as soon as I'm free. Hopefully the thread will be up until then
>>108845458it also seems that it's no longer maintained, he fell off the face of the earth kek
>>108845475Well, in my experience, the first time I broke it was when I installed Librewolf as an exe because I thought my windows profile would only work on the exe. It didn't, so I installed the flatpack. But then I saw I had two Librewolf in my start tab, so I attempted to uninstall it, except I couldn't. I tried deleting the folder, using console command, uninstalling the flatpack (hoping it'd grab the exe installation too), but nothing worked. I still have both Librewolfs on my start and I can still boot bothAnother time was when I needed gestures, and I installed touchgg, only to find out it's no longer working. So that lead me to asking AI for help, which started giving me command lines, which I pasted, and those gave me errors, which I pasted commands AI offer as a fix. And this continued until it killed my desktop and everything went black. Rebooting didn't help so I reinstalled CachyOSBreaking Linux is honestly very easy, from my short experience at least
>>108844988something similar happened to me lately but it was on me for being an autist>spend days trying to dual boot using rEFInd as bootloader>sometimes it worked, sometimes It doesn't for reasons unkonwn>mobo keeps deleting the boot entry or gives me black screen>can't get shit to work>give up and install GRUB>it just werksI just wanted a 1337 h4k3r bootloading screen theme, I guess I will just theme grub
>>108845526grub is like the systemd of bootloaders, just werks
>>108844988>AIThat was your first mistake.
>>108844988Set up Hyper-V and toy with Linux that way. You can get more loose and not risk fucking your shit up when you rm -rf / or w/e, and you won't have to reboot to hop into a Linux environment for learning.
>>108845357It is crazy that people are apparently smart enough to critize Windows and look for something better but dumb enough to fall for the most obvious snake oil on the planet. I'm 100% certain they never saw a single benchmark that showed that distro XYZ performs better but they just blindly believe it. And who cares if you get 5% more FPS anyway. It still performs worse than Windows in the end.Also the irony that they switch from Windows because it is "bloated" and "sloppy" but then install distros that are literally just reskins with a lot of useless junk preinstalled that might break your system. There is literally no reason to use anything other than Ubuntu or Fedora since you will customize it to fit your needs anyway.
>>108844988use virtualbox or loonix subsystem for windows
>>108845534nah I've been using runit on artix for years and never had problems with it, maybe once or twice I encountered a package that had a hard systemd dependency but was nothing I really needed. idk about other init systems but systemd is totally replaceable, for now at least.>>108845584I daily drive linux and use windows for games with anti-cheat or modded games like skyrim
>>108845180I feel you, I gave up with touchpad gestures and just use keyboard shortcuts lol
>>108845067just set keybinds for these two touchpad gestures, if youre this unflexible you'll just end up hating linux
>>108845524If you have trouble installing apps like Librewolf then you really shouldn't use something Arch based like CachyOS since you can't use a graphical software store like KDE Discover on it. Arch is meant for people who want to configure their system from scratch so having a distro based on that is trying to change it into something it is not. It is made for people that want to tinker with their PC instead of using it. But installing third party software to configure stuff is janky on any distro.
>>108845067can anybody explain what the fuck he means by 3 finger gestures? is it that gesture you can do on Windows that is just another way of Alt-Tabbing even though its too sensitive?
>>108844988That's why you use a virtual machine. Qemu exists for this reason.
>>108845067Doesn't KDE already have 3-finger horizontal swipe on Wayland? And 4 finger swipe for the overview modes? Or are you talking about other gestures / customizing them. If you want to mess with gestures you should use the libinput-gestures packages
>>108844988>learning LinuxNo such thing, I give you permission to insult someone whenever they use that phrase. You can punch them only if they are also a Nazi.
>>108845988This. Wtf is that? I only need a mouse and a keyboard to travel around.
>>108845327this poster is a tranny hating on white devs>>108845631this poster is a glowie wanting you to keep their backdoor into your system active>>108845897this poster is gatekeeping, just get octopi or shelly>>108845012i had sex with this posters mom>>108845008this guy is cool
>>108844988what AI do you use?
>>108847510How good was the sex with >>108845012 's mom
>dual bootShit or get off the pot
>>108847549pretty good but i felt like a 70's rockstar if you know what i mean
>>108844988>dual bootIs this bait?
>>108845067This is how you become a proper troonix "user">I don't actually need thisThat's it, just say that, now you're truly free, free from choice
>>108847691>microcock shill thinks s/he has choices
>>108846459It doesn't, not on CachyOS at least. It only has 4 finger gesture, and there's no option to change it>>108845988>>108847456It's basically ALT+TAB and I want to be able to do it by moving three fingers on the touchpad, hence the name, but I've been unable to do it on Wayland>>108845897Installing it is not the issue. I can just grab an exe if I'm struggling. The issue is removing it and every bit of residue, which I've been unsuccessful with>>108845752But I don't want keybinds. The keybinds already exist, ALT+TAB. I want to be able to do it with the touchpad by dragging 3 fingers
>>108847691>>I don't actually need this>That's it, just say that, now you're truly free, free from choiceDespite screeching about "muh freedoms", using Linux is only about how much your freedom can be restricted by some deranged man in a dress and then telling you that it is actually better not to have choices. You can adjust Windows and MacOS more than you can Linux since those are actually finished products that work and not a janky, cobbled together mess.>"B-But muh freedom to see and modify the code!"No one gives a shit>>108848256Let's not pretend that Linux is any better than Microsoft when it comes to pandering to trannies.
>>108848498>I can just grab an exe if I'm strugglingI don't know where you got the idea that you can just install .exe through wine on Linux. You are just shitting up your pc with broken pieces of software. Would you expect an xbox game to run on a playstation if you insert the disc? The only time you would ever want to use wine/proton is with games since they "mostly" work fine.The process of installing software on Linux is mostly done through software stores like KDE Discover or Gnome Software Center. Installing stuff in the terminal is just asking for trouble since you probably don't know what any of the text in the terminal means. It is literally just as easy as installing and uninstalling an app on your phone with the app store. If the software you want to run isn't available on Linux then you just have to find an alternative.
>>108849451Because I need apps like Foobar2000 on my PC. That's how I get synced lyrics for my MP3 and FLACs. And I also need MP3tag to organize my MP3. Linux doesn't have alternatives for either of those, nor the other apps that I use
>>108849451Then why have you people gaslit me into believing that Linux can do anything Windows does and much better? We you just talking about of your ass?
>>108844988Try installing weird shit on a virtual machine using KVM first, as recovery is trivial if you make an ankerpoint before installing something weird.It's pretty handy to test out installation scripts to automate the installation/configuration of your tools/projects.It's so nice to be able to automatically install all your favorite tools so nuking a system doesn't waste your time by making you setup everything each time you nuke the system.Try Linux Mint as it works pretty well out of the box, especially if you chose AMD graphics cards and not the absolute brand new hardware.
>>108849900For relatively simple programs like that it might work fine with wine. But for anything more advanced like photo and video editing software you are basically required to search for alternatives because it will never work on Linux. Also be extremly wary of people saying shit like "Guys! Photoshop finally works on Linux with wine!" I swear I have heard that same shit at least 5 times over the years and it was never true.>>108849912Those people live and die by the Linux cult. In their minds they just need to convince/lie to as many people as possible to switch to Linux so that it's finally "the year of the Linux desktop". They live in a psychosis where they can't seem to perceive reality anymore. They genuinely believe that Linux is better than everything Windows does but any normal person just needs to use it for 10 minutes to notice that it is unbelievable dogshit.>why can't I mount my drive?>why are my fonts blurry?>why is it so laggy and slow?>why does this crash?>why are there no settings to change this? Isn't this supposed to be really configurable?And so on.They talk about it like it is just as easy as switching from iOS to Android when in reality it is more like switching from the latest iPhone to a Nokia 3310. It works for the bare necessities and that's it.
>>108850141I use Affinity for editing. How's that?
>>108850612Getting software like that to even run at all on Linux is a complete mess. Even if you get it to run it will either perform badly, have bugs that make it unuseable or break at any moment. When using Linux you can say goodbye to just using your computer and prepare for hours of tinkering for every little problem. The Linux desktop is just a collection of somewhat unrelated projects all glued together into one big janky mess without any coherency.
>>108845584This. If you need Linux, you will always run it on a virtual machine anyway if you use it for anything useful.Linux desktop is a proof of concept toy project. It's like when women compare their nails but for autists with too much time on their hands.
>>108850999>ut for autists with too much time on their hands.Was this really necessary?!?! Not saying it isn't true but damn!
>>108850999>if you use it for anything usefulto most regular people your needs are niche. linux just werks for the general population, even if some programs are a little different than windows counterparts
>>108851607this is the only rational take to have, anything else is just fighting the voices in your head
>>108849900>Foobar2000There's countless audio players on Linux, I never even heard of Foobar2000 until I switched to Linux last year and heard that this is apparently a pain point among /g/'s Windows users. From what I read, it runs fine through Wine anyway.
>>108851638>>108849900Fooyin seems to be a Foobar2000 clone for Linux.
>>108849900>MP3tagHave you tried easytag?
>>108851638never heard of it either, but cool logoseems like a strange pain point though, aside from fooyin the official site says it works on linux via wine
>>108851638>>108851652Which one of them let's me find and save synced lyrics?
>>108851829>wintoddler cant readyou can run foobar2000 on linux using wine
>>108851829I don't know what synced lyrics are, so I can't help you with this.
>>108851860its when a song's lyrics are highlighted in sync with the words being saidlyrics... synced
>>108851869Idk, what software do they use at karaoke clubs?
>>108844988You got filtered by entry-level diagnostics and decided to self-report on a tech forum. Fresh linux is the litmus test by which we determine an under/over on your IQ. You've then picked pretty niche software and cried when it didn't work, and your F I R S T point of contact after that was a fucking autocorrect chatbot being fed petabytes of hardware? Holy shit.(You) understand that software is typically designed for a narrow band of devices right? I don't blame my GPS OS for being shit because I tried to sideload tetris on it and it had a heart attack.
>>1088449884 hours to typeyum install packagename?You should play with your power outlet using a fork.
>>108850999Can't speak for every setup but Fedora KDE has been a perfect replacement for Windows. No issues, been using it all year. You need to do minimal learning to set up some stuff (like codecs) and might need to look up how to poke a few conf files if you want to change some defaults but then it just works and you stop thinking about being on a new OS. The couple Windows softwares I still want to use work with wine/proton. Same for video games though I don't play many these days. You have to be completely retarded to not get comfortable in a week or less.
>>108851607>to most regular people your needs are nicheYes. And Linux is primarily an OS for servers, so obviously that's niche too.>linux just werks for the general populationThis is a flat out lie, unless by Linux you mean Android, not ganoo slash linux. It would be awesome if this was true, but false advertising doesn't seem to help the cause.
>>108851973*if this were true
>>108851965That's cool, but you're interested in tinkering with Linux. Normalfags aren't. For them, there are no advantages, only downsides. Whatever Linux can do for them, Windows or M*c OS can do better.
>>108852049dear fellow esl, I don't know how to break it to you, but both are correct
>>108852067I'm Australian. "were" is the subjunctive copula while "was" is an indicative copula. There is no nuance here; only one of them is the subjunctive.
>>108852084>copula>subjunctive>indicative>australianOk you can stop making up words now.
>>108852084Mate it's fine, you're explaining gramatical cases to someone who probably voted for Trump.
>>108845458Let's fix it then.
>>108852199**grammaticallibtard
>>108852266... sure? cant do anything until OP produces actionable diagnostics, which he still hasnt done
>>108844988There's no getting good at Linux. It's a fundamentally flawed concept and don't let any of the pseud hipsters on this board like >>108851916 convince you otherwise.
>>108852084Who cares? Subjunctive is a fossilized verbal mood in English, only found in the copula. Which is why both forms are mostly accepted.
>>108845067>CachyOSYou're falling for a meme. The distro of choice for beginners is either Mint or Ubuntu. I'd go with Mint. People who have used Linux for years will tell you Fedora is the choice now, and CachyOS is an easy Arch because they forgot how it is to actually use Linux for the first time.
>>108852273Oh no that guy made a typo>>108852318>Who caresProbably the anon who had a whine about it
>>108852318>Who cares?Enjoy your ebonics, then.
>>108852414>Two diverging dialects will converge because a handful of changes have been observed in a similar contextThat is not how it works, buddy.
>>108849328Microsoft funnels hundreds of millions of dollars to trans organizations every year. There have been years when it was billions. They brag about it openly, and pump money into other insane shit like BLM. Linux can't even compete with their level of faggotry.
>>108852341second this, fedora and mint are the only hassle-free beginner distros
>>108845259>>108845067use touchegglike come on guys, what are we doing here?
>>108845634>>108845534which is actually the fastest boot loaderanyone know?
>>108853317maybe its 2000s era intel network interface card with netboot rom it all ended about same time as compaq went under
>>108853673I meant usable linux boot loaders
>>108852777Mint is so ass
>>108853308Touchegg is designed for X11, not Wayland
