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What the fuck is this shit? These were $120 six months ago. Why can't they just ramp up production to match the demand? It's not like they need to spend $100 billion and 10 years building a new semiconductor fab. Hard drives are relatively easy and straightforward to make.
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>>108845131
We live in a world where energy can be turned into any kind of data you want; the Jews are also building Skynet with it to harvest the data of all the goyim.

The slop must be stored.
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>>108845131
>Why can't they just ramp up production to match the demand?
Because the demand won't stay this high long enough to recuperate the costs.
It's easier to play it safe and just raise prices until the AI bubble pops.
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>>108845131
Those who should get it, they would. Enough money would be printed for that, it's easy.
You are treated the same as a bunch of commies though. Your problem.
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>>108845131
Manufacturers are literally living in mortal fear of getting stuck with a huge inventory of overproduced unsold products in the event of a market collapse. They aren't ever going to increase production in such a volatile market.
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assholes decided to raise prices once they saw people were willing to pay no matter how high they got
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>FAGMAN pinky promises to buy gorillions of pc parts
>Suppliers don't sell to the goyim and jack up prices
>FAGMAN doesn't actually follow through on the deal (Notably Sam "chatGPT is my bull" altman)
>Prices still stay high
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>>108845131
8tb is to big for raid rebuild times, it's not a useful device, sometimes smaller is better
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The market will bear what the market will bear. What this anon >>108846384 said will continue to hold if retards continue to buy.
Just don't buy and wait it out. If you really need storage in the meantime, buy used office PCs and laptops.
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>>108846391
pc building is over anon anything connected to it is just layoff and bankrupcy central
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>>108845131
Hijacking a bit, mine has a delay when I try to select files from it (like 10 seconds) before working as normal until I leave it again for a while. My other hdds don't have this issue. I used an old sata cable I had laying around, can the cable cause this to happen? Or is there some setting in bios I needed to change to accommodate this drive?
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>>108846406
sounds like it is going to sleep when you are not using it, try changing your power management settings
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>>108845131
they can sell HDD to 10 people at 400$ to make 4000$
or they can sell HDD to 100 people at 40$ to still make the same 4000$
which one cost less to them in manufacturing?
why would they ever make 10x more units instead of just charging 10x more for the same number of units?
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>>108846420
>why would they ever make 10x more units
Because competition will switch long term contracts to a different vendor.
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i just want ONE blade's worth of NAS for pirating media, bros. i hate the subscription antichrist. is that too much to ask?

>>108846405
>pc building is over
I hate that Tim Cock has gaslit me into being okay with soldered RAM with how much M-series and vertical integration mogs Winblows shitbooks
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>>108846414
Cool thank you, I'll try that.
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>>108845131
>What the fuck is this shit? These were $120 six months ago.
Did they? My 4tb ones costed that amount a few years or so ago
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>>108846427
that different vendor is also selling the same 10 units at 400$ each
there is 0 competition in storage
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>>108846428
Most new x86 based laptops are coming with soldered ram as well (lunar lake, panther lake, ryzen ai max)
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>>108846450
I know, it disgusts me considering how much they get raped by an iphone on steroids. If the sacrifice is worth it, i'll capitulate on upgradability. Have yet to hear a good case for soldered SSDs or why x86 needs it.

Dell, for as much of a shitty OEM they are, had the right idea with CAMM2.
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>>108845131
They need all the memory for the " ai data centers". The ai part is actually irrelevant and the real purpose is to build a mass surveillance system. Enjoy your freedom while you can.
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>>108846428

I was watching a raid array rebuild and zening out and it hit me, normies like you, apple marketing shill spammers, you will never be able to have an offline LAN

You are too stupid and lazy. It's simply beyond you.The reasons why you would need one are incomprehensibe to someone who thinks brands are status symbols. The fact that LAN cables don't have a brand that signifies status to fools means you can't even understand why LAN cables exist or who would want one. I mean you know you are lying and selling awful underpowered overpriced 8gb uninspired thrash that traps consumers into an awful corporate walled garden cloud portal devices hell but you are so lacking ability, characater, morals, technical ability you are willing to spam this junk for low wages. That's your life. You probably spend most of it on food and rent and then use the free apple homosexual mating call product you get to sit in starbucks trying to hit on other men, hoping some elderly faggot will adopt you and you can live with them as a carer/prositute in exchange for some near geriatric ejaculating in your anus. Even if you won a lottery you would spend it all on overpriced, poor value brandslop logos and subscriptions, the little brain you have was completely overpowered by modern marketing, so much so you ended up a minion of it.

You're the perfect example of the future digital slave, you will have to subscribe to get access to remote storage, cloud games, music, movies and computing resources accessed via terrible tiny screened, overpriced devices with awful specs deliberately designed to be useless for anything other that cloud access portals. Yet you will proudly display your slave brand logo as if telling the world you are a good slave before you go and let some geriatric ejaculate in your anus for food and then spend any time you have left spamming apple marketing idiocy in desperation to get another free sample because it means everything to you to own gank brandslop
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>>108846302
>until the AI bubble pops
>just two more weeks!
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have to nas 20tb hdds. i only use them as cold storage. should i just keep them plugged in or continue using them as offline cold storage. i want to get the most life out them.
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>>108845131
That's antisemitic. Just pay for Amazon S3.
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Are there any good options for connecting a bunch of hard drives over USB3 UAS? I got a fuck ton of smaller drives to tide me over. I was probably going to run a Btrfs "raid 10" on as many trash disks I have.
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>>108845131
Because they did that already around covid, and they lost a ton of money because demand evaporated when covid lockdowns ended. They then reduced output to match demand, and that's when generative AI became a thing. Given that half the human race seems to be screaming for the AI bubble to pop, would you ramp up your production again?
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>>108845131
8tb HDDs were never $120
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>>108845131
>$120
The 5640 RPM model doesn't even get that low. Prices have doubled since October tho.
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>>108845131
>Hard drives are relatively easy and straightforward to make.
I'll make the logo!
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>>108845131
Nope, they gotta use AI themselves and build more datacenters instead of hard disks.
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>>108845131

Almost all questions, regardless of complexity, can be answered with only one word: Jews.
In this case it's Scam Conman's promise to buy 6 gorillion DRAM chips and another 6 gorillion HDDs for his datacenters. This pinky promise didn't go through and now the manufacturers are refusing to sell at lower prices. They have artificially lowered the production to raise the prices too. Gradually I began to hate them.
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>>108846450
>ryzen ai max solder ram for speed
>luner lake on cpu package for speed
thought panther lake could use socketed ram ?
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>>108847747
>idle a - some electronics off
>idle b - heads parked
>idle c - lower rpm
>standby - drive spun all the way down
For an always available nas I'd use idle_c.

If you're only turning on your nas once a month to do a back-up and turning it back off then I'm not sure.
Would need to look up stats for number of drive spins up before failure.

>>108847785
Just tell the google ai that you're looking for Direct Attached Storage, at least 4 bays ?

My fear is the usb dropping out. But I don't know if that's a real fear to have.
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>>108845131
Were you living under a rock for the past year?

>It's not like they need to spend $100 billion and 10 years building a new semiconductor fab.
That's actually pretty much how much it costs and how long it takes to build a new semiconductor fab.
Not that it matters because the recent Israel attack on Iran caused all materials required for semiconductor production to be blocked, all fabs are using their existing stocks with no resupply coming. If you think RAM/SSDs/HDDs are expensive now, wait 1-2 months when fabs have to shut down due to supply problems.
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>>108846391
>>108846405
There will definitely be some correction at some point, it just might be in like 5 years or something rather than the one people have been saying. The fact that none of the big 3 RAM companies are adding on to their production capacity is very much proof that they expect the demand for RAM to eventually subside.

On a different note, I accidentally bought 4 extra 8 terabyte Easystores like 4-5 years ago. Very happy with my "misfortune" from back then. Also bought extra RAM for a rainy day back when it was 25 bucks for 16 gigs. Sometimes accidents aren't so bad after all.
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>>108847747
I use an odroid h4 Plus with two WD Golds to act as direct attached storage through iSCSI, it idles at 9W with hdd spindown, 32W when the HDDs go full tilt. The CPU doesn't even get touched. It only has dual 2.5GbE but that's enough for these two drives.

With a B150M + 7400 + Be Quiet Pure Power 11 400W, I get +5-10W on all the above, and this is because it uses an ATX PSU instead of running from 19VDC (ATX PSUs are horribly inefficient at sub-20W, I used the odroid with the ATX converter and got the same results).
But this setup makes it way way way easier to manage everything, I could add an ASM1166 for total of 10-12 SATA ports, or a AQC113 10GbE or i226 2.5GbE, it fits in a standard atx/matx case, and the PSU can supports more SATA drives way easier.

Odroid can be expanded to 8-10 HDDs but it's a jumbled mess of cables if you do this, and you have to use SATA splitters which means you risk melting the HDD power ports. And that many drives would use enough power that an ATX PSU would run it at the same efficiency anyway.

>>108848677
>Direct Attached Storage
Not worth it, it costs 2-300$. For that much, you can build an entire low power NAS from standard desktop parts, or get an Odroid H4 Plus for the same cost. Intel Kaby Lake and so can be built down to 6-7 watts with a pico psu, or 12-15W with a very efficient ATX PSU.
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>>108845131
I literally got an 8TB SATA SSD for that money a year ago, lmao.
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>>108846391
>(Notably Sam "chatGPT is my bull" altman
you misspelled 'Scam'



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