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They're saying ram is a bargain these days.
>>108848205yes
>>108848208ram SECURED
>bought a ssd nvme cooler>it's too big for my cpu cooler>bought another one>it's still too big for my cpu coolerI give up, I'll use the "heatsink" that comes with the motherboard
>>108848230You could have boughted an AIO but nooooo, you wanted to be an aircooled normie but with a special snowflake NVME blower.
What is the quietest case I can get if I don't care about minimizing space? Something from bequiet? I want absolutely minimal noise from my computer but don't want to cuck myself on performance. I don't care about it looking fancy or whatever, pure black is fine.
>>108848262buy any case, fill it with fans, make them spin at 30~35% speed, it'll be silent
>>108848262Just about any case if you replace the side panel with a piece of some type of mesh you can just run it with the fans off 90% of the time. Undervolt both the card and the processor and it'll probably be nearly 100%
>>108848230What you get for putting up with a tower cooler in the year 2026
>>108848259>>108848356I will never use an AIO
>>108848361Ignorant unc ass hill to die on
>>108848440Us uncs mostly like aios. I wish gpus came with aios.
>>108848262Just follow this guy's advice>>108848262A case can only do so much to dampen sound, which is primarily coming from the only thing that's moving (fans). The lowest sound signature is achieved by finding the sweet spot speeds for your individual fans and having them sit there as much as possible. One trick for preventing constant ramp ups and downs is to set the lowest temp on the curve to be above the idle temp of your processor, so even as it fluctuates a bit when doing light work the fan speeds won't budge. Just make sure the base speed is enough to feed your GPU so that thing doesn't become the source of a lot of noise when its under load.>>108848349Devilish
Is there actually any kind of timing quirk with monitors where multiples of 24 or 30 are desirable? 1 second divided by 100 frames sure is a nice number, exactly 10ms per frame. Wouldn't it presumably be easier on calculations in the background if using round numbers like these and targeting them with VRR displays?
>>108848585Its a spookthe fps or multiples doesnt matter at all and its mostly brought up by schizos, similar to windows scaling
Can someone explain why my old 5950x and 6950xt still go for a lot nowadays is that just old amd holding value or pc building being that fucked? I just play vidya don’t know shit about what’s going on with pcs right now I just know ai fucked prices
>>108848715if you can get "a lot" for those pieces of junk just sell them and buy something better
>>108848715flagship am4 cpu and flagship gpu, and now mix that with the current situation where getting into the ddr5 platform is suicide unless youre a (((blessed))) onethankfully the world doesnt work the way the local greentard thinks so a lot of stuff maintain its value
>>108848749note that this guy has been shitting these threads up for a year+ nowwhy? Possibly because his parents sexually abused him as a child
>>108848739>buy something betterYou shouldn't be spreading lies, the prices of things is approximately in line with capabilities, if you want better you *pay more*
>>108848179>Buy a ton of high end hardware>It doesn't make me happyAnons, I've been missold.
>>108848862If you didnt buy it you'd be sadderso it all works out
>>108848715some probing with free gemini and it seems to be because our 6950xt already has good memory performance, but the gre has to be tweaked.
>>108848868Was contemplating buying an OLEDAnd realised, like the PS5... I play no gamesI just watch slop
>>108848862that's why you never buy high end hardware unless when it's super and a clearance sale and you want more vrambuying the value proposition is the way to happiness, that's why the 5800x3d + 9070xt is THE pcbg high end approved packageyou even get to install linux and play around with it which is a thousand times more fun than playing videogames
>>108848906its super old** like when the 7900xtx was $550 last black friday for instance
>>108848906I am a Linux enjoyer, but unfortunately, I saw a RTX 4080 and a RX 9070 XT at the same price, the choice was obvious.AM5 has been a cock and ball torture nightmare, gone through 2 motherboards, 2 CPUs and 2 sets of RAM sticks.When it has worked it's been good, but the entire process has arguably soured my experience of PC building for a very long time.
>>108848916at same price the 4080 is indeed the best choice
>>108848916Am5 has been smooth sailing for me, but I make sure to only buy sk hynix ram kits like a-die, m-die etc.I've had a terrible experience with Samsung kits on lga1700, like, unstable at jedec bad
>>108848916>AM5 has been a cock and ball torture nightmare, gone through 2 motherboards, 2 CPUs and 2 sets of RAM sticks.am5 was just early am4 for me again. yeah a few quirks and a bit longer boot time but everything else was just fine. >>108841567>>108844189
>>108848916the only time i had trouble with AMD stuff was my own skill issues, except for my AM4 amd mobo, it wouldn't work with speakers, it just would never output audio to them, i could never figure out why, every setting and system indicated that it was working, except no sound ever came out. My headsets worked fine everytime, the speakers worked fine on anything else, it just became a huge pain in the butt when i wanted to watch tv shows without having to wear a headset.Drove me nuts, then i upgraded to my giga-amd power system on am5 early 2025 and its been fine. So i can't relate, no idea what you're struggling with, outside of getting butthurt when AMD occasionally release dogshit drivers for the gpu, and you have to go and install an earlier version, which is not difficult. If the ram doesn't work with the AM4 mobo, you just return it and get a set that does, i've done it twice, once for me and a friend, replacement ram worked without issue.
>>108848916>>108848923RETARDSThe 4080 is NOT as cheap as a 9070xt, you're totally derpy.4080: about $9809070xt 16gb: about $750
>>108848951what does it matter?
Is it worth the $200 price increase, maybe, if you're on windows.Nobody is very happy with nvidia, on Linux.For that reason, I can't recommend nvidia. Maybe they can learn how to program, but until they learn how to write software, just say no.
>>108848956Because it's dumb. If a 4080 was $5, everyone would buy one right now (for a Windows box).but they shouldn't. Windows+nvidia is bad (healthy habits make a superior being of light).
>>108848967>if extremely powerful gpu was 5$ people would buy ithuhwhat the fuck is up with this schizobabble
Damn I just asked why my old gpu and cpu go for close to retail price nowadays why did I get a bunch of weird replies>>108848888Gonna have to look that gre thing up but the 6950xt is used for ai as well?
>>108848977Well retail for me I bought the 5950x for $400 two years ago and seems to still be going for that today and the 6950xt for 500 and same thing This was back when both parts were in recommended list here
>>108848951I bought mine for £599 desu. I got really lucky, I was the DELL RTX 4080 poster from a few months ago(?)>>108848940For me I had consistent... I think it was up to 13 crashes a day I had under mine.>>108848947AM4 ironically was extremely stable for me, Even covered in dust it just ran like a dream (stability wise)
>>108848992I think I remember that dell 4080 around black friday last year
How much am I shooting myself in the foot by getting VA screen over IPS these days? Thinking AOC Q27G3XMN or AOC Q27G4XF
>>108848998just get the ips, VA only for ultrawide because they don't make ultrawide IPSI have a ultrawide VA AOC monitor and it's great nonetheless
>>108848977yeah rdna2 unofficially does, I do on mine.rdna3 is some better, and then rdna4 really pulls ahead with matrix math features.
>>108848992>I got really luckyyes
windows bros....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3VwPyZ7YiY
>>108849031Not watching. Do you need the steam machine or whatever the fuck it's called?
>>108849037if you need an explaination of what is being done to optimize the vram of 8gb gpushttps://youtu.be/3ojCgjkGzX0microslop and novideo users lost hahahaha
>>108849037you need a gpu with low enough vram that with certain settings it goes past the limit, and valves linux optimization gives more headroomif you just lowered settings in game to lower vram usage it would achieve same fps increase
>>108849045not true. it just optimizes your vram better by keeping everything the game needs in the vram instead of stuff like your web browser and discord application data. everything else gets evicted to system ram instead before it touches the game data. nigga. novideo bros could never.
the steamslop box has amd? Lol they really survive by feeding the consoleshit market.
>>108849065microslop lost >>108849031their game on their os runs worse than on linux lel
cool, but I'm still not buying a console
>>108849075that is going to make it to all the other distros eventually. cachyos already has this fix. cope and seethe novideo retard. enjoy your spyware, ads and ai slop.
>amdcuck crying about copinglel
>something gets done on linux to make old and new gpus run better>you are just copingdo nvidiatards really? enjoy your xbox cope mode. hahahaha.
gonna drink a coffee and then finally install and clone my new boot drive and change this psu
Still not buying, shilly-kun ;)
>>108849104I don't know if they are hired, but I do know they are shills.Honestly, I don't think our whole idea of the existence as a human transfers across races - they are totally different in all ways.
>>108849143they are just coping that their gpus can't use this feature on both windows and linux because they bought the wrong brand of gpu to create ai slop.
>>108849143>>108849155their vram starved nvidia gpus could neverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdaco79JE0o
>>108849169it's free fpshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGhQAFEs_Eo
heheheheh oh man>Valve engineer Natalie Vock>sheshe is an autistic man.
>microsoft got beaten by a tranny
I have a dell 3060 i5 8500 that i took out of my company trash after replacing all pcs. Bought 16gig more ram, a 3050 and a ssd and use it as a switch emulator for my sonNow they are going to replace the pcs again and i already eyed a dell optiplex 3000 with i5 12500My question is what is a good cooler for the cpu that would fit both? Just in case i can t get my hands on the dell 3000 to be able to use it on the 3060 one.Cpu hitting +65 degrees often while the gpu rarely goes more than 60.Re pasted it but still heating up.Atx tower cases for both of them
>OH MY HECKING GOSH KEANU CHONKER SOME MENTALLY ILL TRANNY FAGGOT SPERGED OUT AND SQUEEZED SOME IMPROVEMENTS FOR ANCIENT DOGSHIT GPUS ONLY JEET AND SPIC BROWNS USE>DUDE LMAO THAT MEANS YOU SHOULD BUY OBJECTIVELY INFERIOR HARDWARE IN THE HOPES THAT IT WILL AGE BETTER*, AMD FINE WINE™ AMIRITE?* = Subject to terms and conditions like non-maintenance mode driver support and support for newer versions of FSR
>>108849207it works for all gpus retard.
>>108849209Why are you testing ancient garbo turd then? Show me it making meaningful FPS impact on RDNA3 or newer with 12gb+ VRAM.
why did glibc get fucked up and now files sort wrong?
>>108849231it got recently released and has to be set up by the user on a niche platform? the improvements are going to scale just the same when 12gb and 16gb vram gpus get maxed out in vram from high quality textures. are you retarded? 4gb and 8gb gpus are just low-hanging fruits to test and show the improvements with low and medium settings at 1080p. i am not testing anything. fucking schizo.>>108849246why ads in my os on my pc?
what autist thought that sort order for Americans should change to the European style? why? why is everyone autistic?
1 month ago I have one sort order. Annnnd an update later and the sort order is fucked.>no character is before numbershow. how are they that fucking stupid?
I didn't want another world war, but that's it, Europe must fall.yes, I need numbers leading file name.yes I need sorting items above them.
I shouldn't need a kludge to get my American sort order.
>>108849260go fight your goym wars mutt
>>108849249>on a niche platformSo the jeet gaymd shill is too low IQ to use Linux and uses Shitdows despite shilling gaymd for better Linux performance. It's as I always suspected but thanks for confirming it faggot.>the improvements are going to scale just the same when 12gb and 16gb vram gpus get maxed out in vramHow do you know this? There are a lot of differences between the wiggle room when it comes to 4gb vram and 12-16. And how do you know Nvidia won't implement similar optimization in the years long time frame? Or that someone else won't implement it for open source Nvidia driver? After all it's not a secret how it works.>i am not testing anything.We both know you are too much of a low IQ, non-sapient, at best vaguely hominid waste of oxygen animal to perform any meaningful tests anyway. All you can do is puke out your parasocial brand fanboy faggotry here and waste everyone else's time instead of giving any meaningful or worthwhile pc building advice because there is nothing worthwhile going on in your life.
>>108849278the changes make it down to the linux distros with time. that is how it works with improvements there. right now it works on arch and cachyos. in the future it is going to work on all the other distros. there is no open source nvidia driver. just a module. even intel gpus got this improvement because they have real open source drivers on linux.>We both know you are too much of a low IQ, non-sapient, at best vaguely hominid waste of oxygen animal to perform any meaningful tests anyway. All you can do is puke out your parasocial brand fanboy faggotry here and waste everyone else's time instead of giving any meaningful or worthwhile pc building advice because there is nothing worthwhile going on in your life.takes one to know one. cope and seethe novideo bro.
>>108849288>there is no open source nvidia driver.There is Nouveau, although it is in maintanence mode, and Nova is in the works with support from Nvidia.You still provided no real arguments whatsoever Nvidia won't have any comparable optimizations. They fixed Wayland, DX12 is improving a lot after descriptor heap merge and closer than ever to Windows parity, RT got a performance boost in the latest driver.You are the one coping and seething from outdated arguments from 2023, Nvidia makes objectively better hardware and driver advantage AMD used have is increasingly diminished and will soon cease to be the case completely.Your GPU will enter maintenance mode in half the time Nvidia takes to retire support from their GPUs and you will be at the mercy of a handful of extremely mentally ill trannies to get any meaningful support for it.
bought into the oled meme after vaprobably the best purchase ever, i need to replay everything since it looks so much betterthe pixel cleaning is a bit inconvenient but i can live with it
>>108849326>There is Nouveauyou get like 1fps with that one. sorry but the vram fix won't help with that. my 480 still works fine on the latest arch while nvidia 10 series has to use an old aur driver to get any video at all. an old ass driver that won't get support or fixes for any new kernel versions btw. nvidia has a custom memory manager that doesn't allow the linux kernel to manage it. both dmemcg and plasma foreground booster don't need a user space api endpoint that the nvidia driver just doesn't provide on linux. both could be fixed by making the driver open source or nvidia rewrites their driver to use cgroups instead of their memory manager on linux specifically and provides a user space api to access it it will never come to corpo slop driver. enjoy your e waste. even my 7970 still works fine on latest mesa and arch. lmao.
>>108849265The USA is basically a hard fork of europe.
>>108849363usa is the crappy copy of europe. it's a shit remaster with dei and other trans shit.
>>108849347pixel cleaning happens after you keep it on for 16h, and turn pc to sleep and the monitor goes on standby modeyou almost never see it
>>108849350>nvidia 10 series has to use an old aur driverThey received support for a decade before that happened. Much longer than what AMD gives to their GPUs.I will enjoy reading your demented copes here when AMD ends up not supporting whatever new shit they bring with UDNA on RDNA4 and bunch of autistic troons put together even more dollar store version of that for you to cope with unofficially.Have fun with your shitbox nonnie.
>>108849370There's no change climate change is real. The europeans can't even sort files correctly.
>>108849376it's an asus monitor, by default the pixel cleaning reminder is set to 8h and it just shows a little window on the bottom right telling me to do itand yeah i turn the pc off every night and the monitor goes on standby, dunno why it doesn't do the cleaning then
_file0filefile^ correct order.
>>108849383so can you disable some pointless warning?why would it need to tell you about it when it does it automatically
>>108849378so you are back to coping after you found out that your hardware is e waste and won't get the vram fix? lmao.
>>108849390well sure I can disable it, i just thought that the warning means that I need to do it manuallysince it's logical that if it was automatic then it wouldn't need to warn meweird
why do mutts get their cholesterol and blood sugar up for nothing? do they want to die of a heart attack? do they not know that they don't have free healthcare over there and that it would ruin them financially?
>>108849383Asus tax for Asus quality.
>>108849410Just wait for your distro to get the latest autism libraries. You'll enjoy it.
>>108849413asus tax for no return policy
trying to shill NVIDIA cards to linux users will never workwe've all been burnt by them at some pointtry again in 10 years
TURN THE KEYS MISSLEMEN
>>108849422*I
>>108849422on my last birthday i wished for tel aviv to burn
Works on my machine thoughbeit.May anon perhaps consider it's an issue of his own skill?
>>108849413fair point, yeah i don't like giving asus my money and ROG is a memebut there are just so many fucking monitors, even for the same brand there are tons of modelsmy friend has a similar asus oled, and the OP mentions the XG27AQWMG which seemed really nice, but kinda expensive for my budget so I went with the XG27AQDMES since it had a pretty nice deal on itcoming from a VA it's a different universe so I'm satisfied with it. there were some complaints about font fringing and I experienced it, but it only took a tune in windows settings and it's good now
>>108849031who?oh, another poorfag who is too retarded to disable windows defender
>>108849456windows defender is not going to free up your vram and allow your game to use that free vram instead of the windows 11 web ui that takes 1gb of it on a single screen.
>>108849104you really shouldn't try to play anything modern with your e-waste, that was low-end even when it released back in 2016
>>108849466the fix works on every gpu that uses mesa.
>>108849466It's not low-end anymore. It's FINEINEWINEINE
>>108849465oh it was that new software to help out thirdies with their e-wasteok then. I wouldn't bother clicking that video
>>108849479it's going to work just the same when 12gb and 16gb of vram become a limitation
just switched to a more airflow focused case and my idles dropped by around 10cI thought le airflow was kind of a meme tb h
>>108849726gamers nexus did case tests some years ago that clearly indicate the need for high airflow design for reduced noise levels
>>108849726it kind of is, but it kind of isn't, if you've got a 300w system you can use whatever case.if you've got a 14900K and a 5090, yes you will need an airflow case.
>>108849465but i have 96gb to spare THO
>>108849747who asked?
>>108849736you would have expected it to be the oppositeI was of the thought that you needed as little opening is possible for reduced noise but that kind of means that your fans would have to work harder to cool your cpu and gpu
>>108849764yeah. for my fractal define 7 case the recommendation was basically to remove the front panel so it doesnt block fans
>>108849751>nonny said fix is irrelevant if you disable defender XD>other nonny said nuh uh it saves vram :3>(me)it was the most likely next string of characters based on the previous input
soon sisters
>>108849818oh sweet, the hypercalers get cheaper vram for their gpus which will trickle down to the claude mythos users with cheaper api costs
>>108849822ram, vram and hbm makes up such tiny part of the total cost it won't make a difference
>>108849832if nvidia says "gpus cost 50% extra now because of memory chip situation" then it wont make a tiny part of the total cost
>>108849134almost three hours to install a new boot drive and replace the PSUholy shit what a nightmare cable management is, I have no idea why I like the HAF EVO so much, maybe because I rarely open itmacrium reflect worked perfectly, download the internet archive version that it's free and it just werks, if anyone ever wants to clone their boot drive, I'd recommend it easilyfeel absolutely no difference from sata to nvm gen 4, but the drive is bigger and that's what matters
>>108849838yeah but gpus are only small part of ai data centre cost
>>108849850do you have a costs break down?
Everything I do is on a computer and I can't afford downtime due to deadlines.Would it make sense to build a 2nd PC then just store it, as a backup in case my main desktop breaks? Given storage in a airconned room it should last longer than my actual PC right?What if I had it running but just idle, or doing some menial thing like hosting a server. Would that build up wear-and-tear and reduce it's life?
>>108849855no
>>108849860I think if you buy nvidia gpus that cost 30k each and a datacenter has 100k gpus in it that'll cost somewhat large portion of the whole
so apparently if you want white RGB, 255,255,255 isn't exactly the value you want to input and instead if should be a slightly warmer off white value for it appear as true white to the eye. wish I knew this sooner.
>>108849864>slightly warmer off white value for it appear as true white to the eyeWhy and precisely how much offset are you referring to by slightly?
>>108849893I am currently using rgb value of 255,214,160 and for me it looks really good and pleasing to the eyelooks better the the overly cool/cold default white setting
>>108849818all that twitter account does is tell chatgpt to summarize a korean retarded article that come out by the dozens every day and people treat it like gospel
>>108849901however with your fans or lighting devices it may appear different
>>108849863Electricity is the largest part but there is also the rest of the computer, the building and the wiring, cooling, the land, the maintenance. Memory is such tiny part of the cost they can ignore price fluctuations and just keep building more. New vera-rubin makes the cost structure even more energy intensive, assume future generations follow the same trend.
>>108849902Yes it cannot be treated as gospel. Reminder that korea has two major memory makers, each would like to see the other to compete less and produce less volume. They have an interest to not over invest.
>>108849901That should look like light, slightly brownish yellow.I mean it's nice that you are enjoying the new colors but that's not "true white".I guess you are also the type to prefer yellow light bulbs over white ones.
>>108849929yes but the output from my rgb fans looks like a natural white that isn't overly cool or warm
>plugged my fancy new OLED TV into my computer>scared of burn in
>>108850011Set screen saver to 1 min
>>108850011Just roll with it. It exists to be used ultimately.
>>108850011I would be more worried about hdmi fuckery, constant ads and popups that are built into the tvs software.
Are the TDP and PPT of the 7800x3D just fake? The performance is there so I don't mind, I just find it unusual that a CPU is so much more efficient than advertised.
I was just gonna post about PPT TDC EDC too, took a step further on my undervolt -20 all core and set PPT 100w EDC 70A TDC 100A on my 5700x3d so it's even more efficient
>>108850039it just mogs. intel trannies with their cuck cores could never.
gonna have to buy a new ssd cooler, I can't stand these temperaturesbought the hr-09 pro, too bigbought the hr-10, too big, barelygotta get a new one tiny bit smaller
>>108849782>>nonny said fix is irrelevant if you disable defender XD>>other nonny said nuh uh it saves vram :3both are wrong and you are retarded. it just moves the vram groups that are most important to your gpu and everything else to system ram. think of it as swap but for vram but with your os actually prioritizing the game instead of everything else equally.
>>108850039TDP numbers don't mean shit in terms of actual power draw, and everyone else calculates it differently so it's kind of a meme.I think PPT is supposed to be legit, not sure how it behaves in practice, how much and how long it can spike before throttle, etc. But I think you can loosely trust it.>I just find it unusual that a CPU is so much more efficient than advertised.For most modern hardware you can chop off 1/3rd of the default power-draw and lose <10% performance.Top third of the curve and beyond are not efficient.
>>108850112Yeah, I know modern CPUs are clocked way past their efficiency curve, but even then they CAN draw more power than TDP if you let them. But the 7800x3D in particular seems completely unable to draw even its reported TDP (120W), even with PBO limits lifted and overkill cooling. This isn't the case for the 9800x3D, for example.
>>108850039The PPT is real. Everyone has different cooling and motherboards so their power & temps are also different.
>>108848585Typically it's just so it's divisible into as many lower rates as possible. 10 is just Divisible into 1, 5 and 10. 24 is 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 12. 30 is 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 10 and 15.There's also things like 50hz and 60hz being synchronised with the power grids AC frequency.
>>108850165>PPT is realAs in, it's a power limit the motherboard enforces, yes. But it's set so high that it's irrelevant. What I'm saying is that unless you do some kind of fixed all-core overclock the chip will never reach the PPT anyway (it doesn't need that much power to reach the boost clocks it wants).
now that I switched my PSU I can finally stress the GPU to the max to find out how much can I overclock my ramhow do you do this? run superposition and keep pushing the clocks until the scores start to get lower?
>>108850213it will hit PPT cap in all core max load unless you have a TDC or EDC enforced limit or hit temperature limit.
>>108850100i know other, other nonny. if you focus you're (sic) attention on the emojies you can see i was not being srs in the slightest.
>>108850291No, seemingly it will not, unlike every other AM5 CPU, that's my whole point. Feel free to prove me wrong by showing a 7800x3D draw 120W or higher with PBO, I haven't been able to find any.
>liquid cooling>glass side panels>rgb lights>cable management
rec me the smallest mATX case that supports a minimum 145mm cpu cooler height, and a RX9070XT gpu.
>>108850441just get teh lianli a3
>>108850431>>glass side panelsbut what if I want to look at the reflection of the handsome man that sits in front of the computer all day
>>108850139As I said TDP doesn't actually directly correspond to real power draw. The metric is loosely based on heat and cooling capacity required to keep that in check.As for 7800x3d vs 9800x3d. 7800x3d and 5800x3d are significantly restricted in terms of how much power they can draw, and you can't overrule that easily. Because older gen x3d cache was excessively insulating thermally.9800x3d behaves like a normal CPU when it comes to letting user dictate how much power it can draw.
>>108850431>my pc must look like an ugly metal box>my pc, that i use for countless hours a week must not have any aesthetic appeal>why?......b-because!cripplingly insecure faggot, too scared and/or poor to spend a little money decorating your pc to your own taste.And no, an ugly metal box with no decoration isn't your 'taste', thats just a void of personality.
recommended upgrades from an rtx 2060 6gb?my monitor is 1080p / 144hz so i dont think i need anything that crazy and preferably $400 or less.
>>108850562amd gpu + linux. it speaks for itself >>108849031
>>1088505625070 is only worthwhile upgrade in current situation
>>108850562may as well just wait for the 16gb 6070 next year that will ship with dlss 5
>>108850597its hard to guarantee releases windows or reasonable prices for next genSuper versions would just require oems to slot in 3gb vram modules into the gpus and they're not doing that even when it would add value to the whole.2028 might be the year we get new stuff.
>>108850613in that case get a 5070ti
>>108848862Just keep buying until you feel happy
>>108848862you need friends and a spiritual teacher(i am a spiritual teacher).
>>108849037No you just need Linux
>>108850011>OLED TV into my computer>>108850029>hdmi fuckeryDo all tvs require you to rename the hdmi input to "PC"? Or is that just LG ones?
>put CPU in motherboard and made sure it was snug and couldn't move before lowering retention arm, the crunch I heard was concerning as fuck though>ram went in slots 2 and 4, made sure to apply even pressure and the latches clicked back into place>m.2 nvme seemed a bit tricky to slot in but made sure the protective stickers on the mobo and heatsink were removed first, made sure the heatsink was snug back on the mobo>placed mobo on the case standoffs and screwed in all 9 just fine>plugged in front panel, hd audio, usb a and usb c cables from case into mobo>plugged in case fan hubs 4 pin pmw and 3 pin argb plugs into the headers on bottom of mobo>install psu, plug in 24 pin mobo connector, the 2 8 pin cpu connectors, and the sata cable to power the fan hub, made sure every connection was as tight as I can force it without going gorilla mode and trying to break it>screw in aio radiator and fans into the top of case, install the included standoffs/mounting bracket thing onto mobo, tighten each spring a little bit at a time so they're all even, tighten them as much as I can go. Pump had preapplied thermal paste so there was no plastic sticker to peel off>plug the radiator fans into cpu_fan and the pump into cpu_opt as well as their argb plugs, set cpu_opt to full speed in bios afterwards(it's not loud thankfully)>install fuckhuge gpu, made sure it's slotted in as much as I can without trying to break it, screw in the back panel screws and use anti sag bracket to make sure it's not sagging, force the 12vhpwr cable in as much as I can>try my best to cable manage, doesn't feel like I'm squishing any cables when I close the back panel>install windows, install all drivers I can, activate windows>everything seems to be running fineIs there anything I could have possibly forgotten or potentially fucked up?
>>108849347what monitor did you get?
>>108851554ROG Strix OLED XG27AQDMES
clown used market
>>108851745buy used until the market fixes itself they said
i bought the 9070xt for $663 usdcheapest i could find so i just decided to do it
>>108851783yeah, shame 5070 ti is so overpriced currently
>>108849901RGB 255,255,255 in srgb color space which usually is assumend is 6500K color temperature. If you want to go more cosy then yes, warmer Kelvins are recommended.
Buy the 270k now
>>108848179Anyone here got any experience or knowledge of the Antec 300 case? It looks a bit cramped but I'd like a case with good airflow and a 5.25in drive bay(s) as well as space for HDDs and only new case I can find like that's sold around here is the flp02 and I refuse to shill out over 200 for a stupid case
>>108851783How is it?
>>108850562You could maybe a 7700xt for that. It's 12gb vram so would be a decent upgrade.
>>108853072upgrading from a rx5700, so its still very nice to play virtually most things on highest quality settings. do kinda think i should have gotten something cheaper since i dont think i needed this card, maybe something $500 to $600. maybe ill return it and choose the cheaper option, but future proofing is nicealso would have been nice to get a 5070 ti for ai/ml stuff, but too expensive, cloud stuff it is
6000 series when10k series whencelestial when
>>108853055Buy a used Fractal Define.
>>108853162Celestial is apparently been killed by someone in Intel.When do we get Pat Gelsinger back? I want him back as CEO with a full blown apology form. I miss the revelation posting as well.
>>108853162>6000 series whenbut...we have that.
>>108853178i saw some guy on here go nuts buying a used case covered in smoke and tar stains and smell i won't do it
>>108853201You can just buy locally.
>>108849198as you cannot make cpu to throttle cpu fan is very optimized
>>108849944they likely have phosforous dome led lights
>>108853055No idea about the Antec case. Where are you at (country is fine)?The the only recent-ish case I can recall w/ a 5.25 spot is Fractal Pop. The first generation, not the newer Pop 2 stuff. There's a bunch of different versions, but the local Microcenter has the normal one for $100.Pic is from the XL manual, because I was wondering about the limit of 3.5 drive locations, looks like 4.
I finally get the upscaling thing, it's basically mandatory on resolutions above 1440p, maybe even 1080p9070xt pulls 220w playing path of exile max settings 3440x1440, turn fsr 4.1 on and it drops to 120wnew games are so poorly optimized you have to use the upscaling, now I get the people incessantly crying about fsr 4 not being on rdna 3 and 2, it's going to be a big boon for the people that own those cards
>>108850519It looks like an eyesore no matter what you do to it. I stuff my PC under the table where it hides in the darkness.
>>108854142For ages the quickest way to gain performance is to drop your resolution and that's what these upscaling techniques do. 800x600 oblivion ran fast back in the day but looked butt ugly. 360 was at least 1280x720 but 30fps. A good PC could get 2560x1600 60+ fps which is better than 1440p.
so everything ml/ai related is gonna be a pain in the ass with amd and roc as a whole right? im getting a 9070xt instead of a 5070 since its only $60 more and also the ti version is out of my budgetbeing poor sucks
>>108854424Just save for another month and buy the 5070ti? Do you have Credit?
>>108854424Radeon is okay if you just want an LLM to generate text. Dogshit for everything else.
>>108854424Klarna
>>108854424llms work fine in the 9070xt, 16gb vram is the limitation, not the technologyjust watch stuff on youtube and you'll see
>>108848361I will never use an unnecessary ssd nvme coolerdespite my supreme ALF3 AIO allowing literal behemoths of ssd coolers to install.
>>108851770Doesn't work if everyone has the same ideaYou gotta go one step further and buy stolen
>>108851495That PC's not booting up without an anya forger figure
>>108848902> I just watch slopThat is exactly the one and only justifying use case for OLED techslop.
>>108854476kek
I got a little lunchbox for cheap, 16Gb DDR4, 3400G, ROG Strix B450-I. The problem is the case. It is PINK. Inwin something. The cooler is banged up and one of the heatpipes (of 4 in total) has a zit, I'm positive it has blown out as well.Would you think it would be reasonable to build it into a second portable PC that I can use as either a portable offline station, loaded up with Kiwix libraries, full Wikipedia, my videos and music library, some offline games, or even use it as a home server/media PC. My local shop has a cheap CH160, it is already a cheap case but I can get 25% off, and since the cooler needs to be replaced, maybe an Assassin 4S, the single fan version. I might have already ordered it.To top it off I have a GTX 1660S lying around and use it as well.
>>108851820If you really need a GPU why does it matter if you pay 100 or 200 more?Imagine buying a car or even a house nowadays, you will be paying tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands more.
>>108854442>>108854446Really? I just set up llm on 9070xt and was looking forward to trying out image gen sometime soon.god i cant believe i bought this instead of 5070ti when there was only $150 price difference
>>108854527I did zturbo images early in the year with some weird drivers and worked just fine, they then updated the drivers and you don't even need to search for rocm driversit works
you think that intel will make a good gpu for home servers with their new technology to replace the A310?the a310 is really good for media servers, uses very little power and does many transcodes, they could launch a C310, would be amazing, with the new panther lake igpu
>>108854527Well, it's not like it can't do it, but it won't be as fast without CUDA.
Does anyone besides Noctua sell fan spacers?I went with Phanteks T30s for my new build, but Noctua's NA-IS1 lineup seems to be keyed for their own fans specifically. That can probably be solved for with side-cutters and a file, but I was also (ideally) looking for spacers >=10 mm and at that point it seems easier to just buy something else. Unfortunately though, this is one of those things where the majority of people that might care happen to already own a 3D printer and subsequently no one has bothered to commercialise/mass produce it- that I've found so far anyway.
>>108854660ali express sells those
What are some ways to make Windows faster besides debloating it?
>>108854539>what do you mean I gotta spend five minutes to learn something, I wish I gave nvidia $150!
>>108854660want to go loco and stack grilles
left my computer for 2 weeks and when I came back games that had no issues running now have infrequent hiccups and stutters. I got the latest Nvidia driver and turned my rebar off/on, surfshark AV scan was clean, any help? running on this 4080, Ryzen 7 5800X3D with 32g ram
>>108854786>latest Nvidia driverthere's your problem, DDU and install 580.88
>>108854786your C drive is a HDD
>>108854856everything I am playing is on the SSD
>>108854864your OS isn't and that is a problem
>>108854878never heard of that being a thing, but everything was working fine until I came home from being away so idk if thats really the problem. how would I get my OS onto the SSD without fucking everything up?
>>108854864your shader cache is stored on C and shader cache these days are in the gigabytes, HDD chokes past 60-100mb/s transfer.
>>108854885this is budget sata vs budget nvme
>>108854886how fix?
>>108854894reinstall windows on a ssd. copy your files from hdd partition to ssd partition after you do so.
>>108854885It's probably windows doing something weird like updating itself or downloading more botnetYou can move your os install to a new SSD wholesale using disk cloning software
can I install windows 10 onto my SSD with it still being on my HDD? also would there be a reason for it to suddenly start stuttuering my games after about a year of it working fine until now?>>108854906sounds like something I can fuck up easy but will tutorialize myself on it>>108854911any software you can point me at?
>>108854929You are probably using an ancient version of Windows 10 and the latest GPU drivers require up to date Windows for full feature/bug fix support.
>>108850029>constant ads and popupsMy TV has never and will never be online.
>>108854942thats probably it I guess, I refuse every upgrade to 11 because I hate how it looks, will have to see if any updates got ignored too
>>108854911Acronis is free everywhere from SSD manufacturers
>>108854955You don't need 11, just up to date 10.https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/may-12-2026-kb5087544-os-builds-19045-7291-and-19044-7291-579dfaac-2664-45cc-9bd8-e6999fcc8836
use windows 10 ltsc like a normal person
>>108854988normal people do not use W10 ltscnormal people use W11 because normal people are idiots
>>108854964does my computer not do this update for me anymore? I checked and I think my last update was last year. is it the optional driver update I need? 24.20.0.4?
>>108854995forgot imagecheck for update button doesnt seem to do anything
Windows version autism is like a slightly milder version of Linux distro autism.
>>108855001Type winver in start menu and Google how old the version number isYou can download latest updates directly from Microsoft website even if Windows Update is brokenhttps://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB5087544
>>108855024says I have 22H2, which looks like the last version of win10. idk why it would be warning me that I dont have important fixes unless its just win11 propaganda
>>108851280>Do all tvs require you to rename the hdmi input to "PC"? Or is that just LG ones?it's more of an issue with the connection itself and windows or graphics drivers behaving weird in regards to it
>>108855028Yeah but what VERSION of 22H2. It came out in 2022 and the latest version is from this fucking week.
>>108855028Maybe try reading the patch notes bruh you gave years worth of cumative fixes neglected
>>108855032oh poo. I have OS build 19045.6466, which doesnt look like your link. trying to figure out how to download this now
>>108854711I would consider it, but it feels like any potential gain in terms of reducing turbulence would be offset by significantly worse vibration.>>108854682I'd had a look before, and just again now but the only things I'm seeing are variations on a few themes:>actual 120/140mm fan units>mounting hardware to take a PC fan and turn it into a desk fan (like, a personal cooling fan for warm weather)>fan grilles, dust meshes, thin rubber anti-vibration mounting gasket things, fan size-adaptors, various bits and pieces for radiators>spacers, except the only listings that appear are the Noctua-branded onesIs there a specific search term I need to use here? I know Aliexpress' search system sucks, but "Spacer, "Riser", "Bracket", "Mount", "Frame", "Duct" all get me nowhere, so I've probably missed something more obvious.
>>108855069fan spacer
>>108855024>>108855032I think I need the service stack update (SSU) before I get the 22H2 update right? and do I just hit download from the catelogue and itll do the rest once its downloaded?
>>108855115ignore photo, i found the catalogue and forgot it was in post
why the hell not? (SSU x64 update message)
I downloaded the thing from the catalogue, what do I do with it?(2026-05 Dynamic Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 21H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5087544))
>boughted new pc>just scrollit's over
Is this actual weather in game or did le rtx bug out?
>>108850011You *will* get burn-in.First thing to do, don't go to websites and do text type stuff. Always hide all UI elements like a hud or whatever.Like titlebars and start menus and stuff, they WILL. BURN. IN.If you just game, you'll be pretty ok.The best use case of oled is movies. but never with subtitles! (like 50 minutes / year tops imo)
>>108855270The ram is failing. It's a famous nvidia feature.
>>108855335>never with subtitles!>just don't watch anime brohard pass, i can't go without my animes. i'll use my old ips instead.
>>108855216heres the msu https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2026/05/windows10.0-kb5087544-x64_a3451b8d6af9df06bd43d1b25ec3985fa0db49c3.msuinstall it
>>108855343The other alternative is just plan on replacing it in a few years, like in 3.
>>108855270le bug
(re-post in correct thread)haha the atmos ii has a liquid temp sensor right? haha. a $200 aio wouldnt NOT have a liquid temp sensor right? haha. Right?
>>108855540is that relevantthe liquid is hot when its at the cpu core, and cools at the fan section?
>>108855551yeah. you want your fans to spin up as the liquid becomes thermally saturated.
>>108855583It just follows the cpu temp
>>108855587im more concerned about the 20 second 90 degree hot spikes that will dissipate just fine over the next few minutes without turning the fans up.
>>108855600You prob want fans to spin always and the spikes are a bit lower than that as the water absorbs heat, then you can move fan curve so it spins less aggressively around 65c-80c areas
>>108855613give me some background on where your coming from so i can pinpoint for you why your experience does not apply to what i want to do.be specific about your setups and the environment.
>>108855343I watch anime on my OLED TV all of the time. It's not an issue. About two weeks until I've had the TV for four years.
>16:10 is dead forever
>>108855344i think its stuck, hasnt moved in a while
>>108855682I don't really care that much about 16:10 vs. 16:9 on a desktop-sized monitor. It's more of an issue on a laptop, but my work laptop for example is 16:10.
>>108853406I m not worried about the throttle more about the high temps. Want to keep it cool under load. But this dell niger make proprietary cases so not everything fits. Maybe somebody had some exp with oem dells and replaced the cpu cooler and can give me advice
>>108855709oop it started moving again
didn't think using nvme would make the loading times much faster than sata because sata is already fast, but everything opens up instantly now
>>108855743The maximum speed difference between NVMe and SATA is quite vast.
>>108855744helps that I got gen 4 nvme too, sn770 2tb
>>108848862I think if you had something to do with it, a reason to use it, then you'd maybe be happier for your purchase.Without reason and purpose in life, Man is lost.Give yourself meaning, or seek meaning in serving others... Or yet still find a third path. It's up to you, in any case.
>>108855343>You *will* get burn-in.>in about 10 years
Was looking up fan curves and saw this MSI bios had temp monitor for M.2Is that only for AM5/Intel equivalents?
>>108855709it got stuck at 97% at a restart and then couldnt complete the update and reversed it, any help with this? trying to install Windows 10 22H2 x64 (KB5087544) using catalogue and >>108855344's thing, out of ideas now
>Define 7 XL for 707zł (~$193,50)ngl kinda tempted to pull the trigger on this bad boy even though my guts aren't that big, really seems like a good price for the case and I wouldn't be surprised everyone is dropping their prices due to the market wide crisis since people don't build PC's anymore.
>>108855816I got def 7 but its not great airflow caseI just got it because I wanted 4 front usb ports + usb cFractal north or meshify 3 would be much better
>>108855816old cases are rarely good, they are full of problems that have been solved over the last few years, mainly airflow and cable managementeven if you wanna buy one for a home server, ideally you have to mod it to add fan slots
>>108855816Don't do it. Buying an XL when you have no need for one is retarded.
Oh yeah and on my account I have Prime so I'd have it delivered tomorrow apparently, likely stocked in a local warehouse when otherwise it'd be delivered from Germany/Italy/France/Spain as is common for Amazon.>>108855819Right now I have a Pop Air, but idk, I think the 7 XL would be fine and IIRC you can just open the front door if you need the airflow and then it'll behave closely to airflow focused cases, which is a decent compromise IMO. Close the front door for silence, open for airflow. I also like the design, having a gigantic black monolith for a case is fun.Though uhh, my entire system rn weighs ~15kg, Pop Air is 6.80kg, Define 7 XL is 16.53 kg. So that would be ~25kg total weight after transplant.>>108855828The 7 XL is pretty well designed for a 6 y/o case tho, it's a massive metal box with plenty of fan mounts.>>108855831I'd like to have one. Besides, there aren't many cases with 5.25" bays on the market to begin with. Having my BD-RE drive on top would be nice.
>>108855841Ok boomer. Just use a USB BD drive like everyone else, who still uses optical media sometimes, has for the last 15 years or so.
>>108855841>I'd like to have one.Why? So that you have a case that takes needless space and weighs more for no reason?>Besides, there aren't many cases with 5.25" bays on the market to begin with. Having my BD-RE drive on top would be nice.The Define 7 has a 5.25" slot for your shitty drive.
>>108855847>>108855848>you're fucking stupid for having an optical drive in your PCOkay I think that's a good enough reason to get a 7 XL then.
>>108855851I think we've established that you're fucking stupid regardless.
whats up with cases not coming with 4 usb front ports anywaydefine 7 does usb x2 and usb 3x 2 with 1 cablesure you cant do 4 x usb 3 with 1 cable but still
>>108855855>we'veI do not concern myself with the opinion of mouthbreathing faggots that consider anyone who doesn't conform to the majority a stupid retard.I have a 5.25" drive. I also have a second USB one. I like having one in my case. If your only suggestion for me is not to do so because you don't do so means your opinion is worthless, and so is your entire existence.
>>108855866>If your only suggestion for me is not to do soNo? How are you this bad at reading? Are you actually retarded?
>>108855866what data do you need from external optical discs instead of just moving it all to a hard drive
>>108855851>look at me i'm a speshul snowflakeSure sure pal. Post pictures or you're just fronting.
I need the biggest case that Fractal makes for dual-socket motherboards because I have a specialised need: one (1) optical drive.
hol up. do any new aios have liquid temp sensors?
>>108855892why would theythe cpu has temp sensors
>>108855871All I'm hearing is that I'm fucking stupid from wanting a case with 5.25" bays. So all I'm seeing is a bunch of conformist faggots that'd want me to only have a smartphone and pay subscriptions for streaming services because "that's what everyone does" and if you're not like everyone then you're crazy.>>108855872I like having an ODD ready to go in my computer for whenever I need to read an old disk. I have a small collection of those. And it's not like I have enough hard drives to archive them all, nor are they affordable nowadays.>>108855876See picrel. Pop Air has a 5.25" bay, but it's pretty fucking stupid. At the bottom, with a magnetic cover.>>108855879I also wanted to drop in a second GPU in my case for additional work, but since the Pop Air is an ATX with a PSU shroud, I have an ATX mobo with the last PCIe slots being at the very bottom, it's a limiting factor. The extra space of the 7 XL would allow me to add a second GPU without much hassle or major thermal issues. And again, it's a massive case, plenty of airflow space, the front door can be opened for better airflow when needed.It's not just for dual-socket motherboards. You could put in an ATX N100 board, fill it up to the brim with 3.5" cages and have a NAS. If anything thinking that Fractal made this case only for E-ATX servers is fucking retarded, they've designed it to be more versatile than that and I like that. I'd like to have a Threadripper system at one point as well so I'd have a case ready for it.If the price is good then why not? It's not like Fractal will release the 8 XL any time soon.
>>108855896my fans do not cool the cpu nonny, they cool the liquid. i do not need my fans spinning up when the cpu briefly hits 90 degrees. i need the fans to slowly ramp as the liquid becomes thermally saturated.
how come only msi makes a good looking gpu this gen?
tried to manual update win10 but it wouldnt move for 30 min. tried cancelling and it hasnt moved for another 30 min, what do?
>>108855903>You could put in an ATX N100 board, fill it up to the brim with 3.5" cages and have a NAS.And yet your only reason to get the XL is that you have a single 5.25” device.
>>108855916install linux or git gud with windows
>>108855912ah its that sharty shitposting botwell its been lame but I guess 4chan is done, they wont implement accounts and its just endless shitposting
>>108855920>And yet your only reasonI mentioned more reasons in the post you're replying to. You like to feel superiorly smug, don't (You)?
>>108855927im trying the second option its painful progress. can I reset mid cancellation?
>>108855929Oh, a second GPU? Yeah, no non-XL case has ever had a second GPU.
>>108855913That looks like ass crack bruv, get your eyes checked
>>108855939show a good looking gpu then
>>108855912>i do not need my fans spinning up when the cpu briefly hits 90 degreesi got PTSD from fans spinning up whenever i opened a new web page, so i just ripped them out and have been happy ever since>>108855940
>>108855943>this gen
>>108855936Re-read my post or stop replying. You're just making yourself look like the smuggest, most insufferable Redditor on the planet.
>>108855948my bad
>>108855928wtf.ok. does anybody sane know if any new aios have liquid temp sensors? for context im coming from an nzxt kraken 2023 360 on a 7800x3d. very good combo but apparently the old pump design is not good enough for my new 9950x3d2. i bought an atmos ii that is half installed rn but im likely going to send it back for something with a liquid temp sensor.
>>108855903I wanted to buy that blue ray drive but I had no money and now it's gone forever
>>108855943For reference, even something this size wouldn't fit in my Pop Air due to the PSU shroud, hence why the extra height of the 7 XL would come in handy. It's either being limited to the 2-3 mini-GPU's that are exactly the thickness of a single PCIe slot or getting a bigger case.>>108855957Yeah I got mine when it was the cheapest, then got a spare BW-16D1X-U for the last reasonably sane price to have two functioning drives. It's a shit state of affairs, Pioneer sold off their BD manufacturing, LG and ASUS moved away as well, the last units that are available costs insane money, so if you missed out you're SOL.
>>108855952hey anon,keep triggering random cunts online over your own purchase decisions, it's kinda fun to watch and i'm sure you're enjoying it somewhat tooregards, anon
>>108855954can't disagree but i thought about a gpu that is actually worh buying that looks good. 5070ti and up etc.
>>108855965yeah, I hope the chinese pick up on the blue ray market like they are doing with dram, there's obviously still money to be made in the segment, specially if you're suddenly a monopoly because everyone else quit
>>108855966It's honestly impressive owning a custom build PC isn't seen as something only crazy people do. I remember having some small talk about tech at the gym, said I have a Blu-Ray drive in my PC and that I have local media, and the reaction was "wtf why when Spotify/Netflix exists". Well if owning your media makes you crazy then so be it.>>108855972Pioneer sold off their BD shit to the Chinese, so hopefully they'll see the demand and deliver a similar quality to the global market.
>>108855965>Pioneer sold off their BD manufacturing, LG and ASUS moved away as well, the last units that are available costs insane money, so if you missed out you're SOL.I grabbed a Pioneer brand thing for like no money something like 12 years ago. I barely ever used it, but my brother has been using it lately to play/rip our old stack of 90s/00s games. Thanks for reading my WebLog.
>>108855940I like how my card looks, I use it the rgb off
>>108855993looks like a knock off tuf from anus
>>108850562Used 3080
>>108855981I get pedantic when people equate physical media with being able to keep it indefinitely, but I also don't know of any digital storefront that can legally sell you DRM-free video files of movies or shows (aside from porn, maybe?), while this exists with games and music.
>>108855981Nobody said that you shouldn't have an optical drive.
>>108856005>I get pedantic when people equate physical media with being able to keep it indefinitelyObviously having backups and not relying on optical media being eternal (unless it's M-Disc) is what makes physical media eternal, but still. People look at you like some sort of alien if you actually want to keep your media. Technocrats brainwashed the masses this badly.
>>108856015Id say move all media onto a hdd and throw the old drives and the optical drive in the trash
>>108856016>having backups and not relying on optical media being eternalThat's not what I mean. I mean that A) you can "own your media" without it necessarily being a physical item (e.g. bandcamp or GOG downloads) and B) just because media comes on a disc doesn't mean you're able to keep using it (e.g. physical copies of vidya gaems that require remote server connection to even function)
>>108856015>I have a Blu-Ray drive in my PC and that I have local media, and the reaction was "wtf why>Nobody said that you shouldn't have an optical drive.lmao, fuckin retard
>>108856045Show the post.
>>108855968whatever, dudei personally think caring this much about how PC components look is the most retarded shit
>>108856039Of course, I fully get you. I know I have vidya DVD's that are just glorified game keys. My copy of Far Cry 3 is useless without uPlay (or w/e it's called now) for example, but I also have the older non-DRM or "classic" DRM games, the latter only need a patched EXE to run. Point is, people nowadays got conditioned to get the ick over the idea of having your media locally, offline, available at any time without being tethered to a monthly subscription.>>108856050>spoonfeed me what I can read myself ITT only to say you're wrong and I'm rightYou love being a waste of oxygen don't you?
>>108856054>i personally think caring this much about how PC components look is the most retarded shitthat is just cope because all gpus look like crap
>>108856056As I said, nobody said that you shouldn't have one.
>>108856050Anon is literally telling an anecdote about people looking at him like crazy for owning a bluray drive, saying "lol why", which implies this is something he shouldn't be doing. Then you butted in with your "well nobody in the thread said he shouldn't own a bluray drive". Lmao, fuck yourself, fucktard.>>108856059(You)
>>108856064Again, nobody here told you to not have an optical drive. I don't understand why you're so determined to cry here like you were raped.
>>108856058Anon... I'm not the one complaining about the supposed lack of good looking gpus this gen. I literally don't give a fuck. Picrel is my gpu, for what it's worth.
what makes people care about a gpu cooler designs so much
>>108856085if i pay 1000 bux for a gpu i might as well get something that looks good and not like some plastic toy with fag lights
>>108856073Nobody here told you to eat shit either. But just for the record, I do think you should go eat shit.
>>108856081siema zakius
>>108856094???is your bot broken?
are you two done? liquid temp sensors? anybody?
>>108856093So, somebody in fact did say that?
>>108856092in practise that means you pay hundreds extra for a piece of plastic thats white to match the mobo, and then you see the white plastic strip through the transparent case window and think about how good you're with money
>>108856098It's a very very specific reference to a very specific person, don't worry about it.tl;dr: there's a guy online that goes by "zakius", he's Polish and his obsession with noise is an in-joke in some circles
>>108856100You don't need one.
>>108856092That doesn't really explain why you have such strong feelings over the aesthetics of PC components in the first place
>>108856104>in practise that means you pay hundreds extra for a piece of plastic thats white to match the moboi don't care about matching my hardware. i just want a clean and simple design without lights.
>>108856107well... you got me. czesc!
>>108856118>i just want a clean and simple design without lightsThat's why I love solid cases like the Pop Air or Define 7 XL. You can throw in whatever the fuck inside and it'll still look good. No need to turn your PC into a showboat.
>>108856118so you bought a case panel not made out of glass or transparent plastic since that'll make it simply and have no lights
>>108856112i have a 600w gpu exhasting very hot air directly up into the radiator as the tubes dont reach the front. its not uncommon for my cpu to be idle while my liquid temperature is pushing 40c, with the fans at load speed, dude. i do need one.
>>108856142You don't need one.
>>108856152:(
>>108856160If the only thing that your radiator is cooling is your CPU, you can just rely on the CPU temperature being indicative of when the water needs to be cooled.If you're of the opinion that your radiator water gets too hot when the GPU is at 100% and CPU at 0% (even though the CPU doesn't report being hot), you can just make the radiator fans depend on both the CPU and GPU temperature using Fan Control.
>>108856126>That's why I love solid cases like the Pop Air or Define 7 XL.air flow sucks>>108856129>so you bought a case panel not made out of glass or transparent plastic since that'll make it simply and have no lightscovering up is not simple. that is just hiding. >>108856115everyone can buy a faglight gpu if they like it. i can't buy a non faglight gpu if i want one.
I wish evga didn't spreg out and still made gpus
>>108856182nvidia are the spergs
>>108856183nah in retrospect it was them
>>108856182evga had poor business strategyother vendors made it work
>>108856178>air flow sucksThere are plenty of other cases with solid panels. Point is, once you ditch the need to turn your PC into a LED spiked showboat, you have some very nice options for black monolith boxes that you can throw whatever inside and not care about aesthetics of the parts.As for faglight GPU's, you can get stupid and just deshroud the damn thing. Unplug the RGB headers, slap on some 80mm or 120mm fans on it, get better noise/thermals ratio, not care about it looking like a nightmare.
what is with the aversion from rgb>?
>>108856178>everyone can buy a faglight gpu if they like it. i can't buy a non faglight gpu if i want one.But, again, "I like it" and "I want it" doesn't really explain the "why". Is it because you have a glass case on your desk where the gpu will be visible every day and to anyone who happens to be near your desk? Is it because you feel bad when contributing towards sales of products that you don't find aesthetic from a social responsibility aspect? Is it because reddit told you this is good, or because reddit likes the opposite and you're being a contrarian? C'mon anon, try to break it down here
>>108856207low iq -> inability to learn how the rgb lights are controlled via software perhaps
>>108856211don't want their spyware to control lights. don't want any extra software to control lights that shouldn't be there in the first place.
>>108856196It's impressive Nvidia allowed MSi to make the Lightning Z, the type of custom overspec that EVGA's Kingpin was known for. So it's not that Nvidia made it impossible for EVGA to keep doing what they're doing, it's that EVGA's business model was incompatible with the ever changing landscape of the GPU world.>>108856207Superfluous, often adds a premium for a cosmetic I do not care for, common for it to be so forced that you can't reliably turn it off without having to resort to keeping an extra piece of software running in the background to keep it off. Unnecessary complication for something I don't want or care about, shitty trend of people having a need to have RGB lights in their PC's and then leaving them set at the rainbow vomit mode that pushes the market trends in an unfavorable direction. Also none of the RGB shit is standardized so it's still a PITA even if you're a fan of it.
>>108856216thats just noiseyou wanting privacy involves using a privacy oriented OS with tails browser and burner phones, and you're just not going to do it
>>108856207There’s zero use case for them.
>>108856220>you wanting privacy involves using a privacy oriented OS with tails browser and burner phones, and you're just not going to do itThis is why we only have two numbers in this world: 0 and 1.
>>108856220WinRing0x64.sysmost rgb software relies on this insecure driver that not even the developer supports anymore.
>bro just install more software bro it's not a problem broYes it is a problem. I shouldn't need to use any software, not even OpenRGB, to turn LED's off. I should have an option to have a hard switch on those. Have it save to the device's on-board memory to keep it turned off. By forcing those LED's onto me and not giving me an easy way to turn them off, you're offering me a product with a manufactured problem essentially.My second hand Zotac 3090 was able to save the RGB settings to the on-board memory so I only needed to install and use it once, but in the end I unhooked the RGB headers when I deshrouded it. But the sole fact that Zotac was considerate enough to give you an option to save these settings to the GPU so you don't need their software running all the time is a huge plus and it should be the bare minimum every hardware manufacturer should offer if their device has integrated RGB you can't just unplug.
is there a way to configure rgb without downloading random chink software?
>>108856234open rgb relies on something called PawnIO
>>108856173right. we've (royal) already been over this.the fans do not need to cool the water when the cpu briefly hits 90 degrees. (very important)the same problem exists for the gpu. the fans do not need to cool the water if my gpu is at 82 degrees for a few seconds while i goon to ai genned anime images.the fans ONLY need to spin when the liquid temperature actually starts rising.but ok. i will not receive help here it seems. i will report back probably not tomorrow as i work that night but maybe thursday if i find an aio with a liquid temperature sensor.
>>10885623499/100 cases you download the manufacturer softwareyou change the color to something you likethen you can delete it or keep it if you want to change it latersome stuff like keyboards or mice may include option to change between templates that are saved on device
>>108856239wtf is pawnio? sounds like a virus
>>108856257most of the time even if you uninstall the spyware you still have the WinRing0x64.sys driver on your system.>>108856260a more secure alternative to WinRing0x64.sys that still gets a lot of high privilages on your system because it has to by it's nature. allowing someone to exploit it when they find an issue with it.
>>108856248>the fans do not need to cool the water when the cpu briefly hits 90 degrees. (very important)Adjust the hysteresis.>the fans do not need to cool the water if my gpu is at 82 degrees for a few seconds while i goon to ai genned anime images.Is your GPU in the loop? If yes, hysteresis. If not, why would the fans even react to it?
i have 4 32gb sticks of ddr4 ram, and a 10900 cpu. i currently have a shitty mobo that cannot run all 4 sticks. what mobo do i need to get so i can slot in all for comfortably and make ai porn videos?
>>108856274what are your thoughts of fractals adjust pro hub or whatever it's called which allows you control your rgb directly from the web browser instead of having to download random software and drivers? I was looking at buying a fractal case with rgb on it and I was wondering if that was more secure.
>>108856329the higher end chipset mobos of whatever socket you have
>>108856281iv been down that road. it always rides a line between spinning up then down in some load or another. be it one game or another, one program or another, one model or another. not to mention that setting it high enough to smooth over any spikes means the potential to be in a high load state with practically no cooling for way too long for my liking.i mentioned the gpu exhast increasing the liquid temperature a bit ago. it takes a bit of logic but you can see that if there is heat building in the liquid that it means im keeping heat in the case when i very much so want it out.
>>108856335it's much better since there is no need for an potentially vulnerable driver on your system
>>108856347>iv been down that road. it always rides a line between spinning up then down in some load or another. be it one game or another, one program or another, one model or another. not to mention that setting it high enough to smooth over any spikes means the potential to be in a high load state with practically no cooling for way too long for my liking.And measuring the liquid is gonna magically fix this problem? It's just a longer hysteresis since the water takes longer to heat up.>i mentioned the gpu exhast increasing the liquid temperature a bit ago. it takes a bit of logic but you can see that if there is heat building in the liquid that it means im keeping heat in the case when i very much so want it out.If there's heat in the liquid, but none of the temperature sensors that are already in your components set off any warning levels, it's fucking fine.
>>108856398anyway you've got me thinking that an multi point hysteresis kind of thing might work. where it performs multiple checks against current and previous load and temperatures. but that would be needlesly complicated when liquid temperature is perfect for next to free.
oops.
>>108856527>next to freeDidn't know liquid temperature sensors were free.
>>108856545flying into free!!
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