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>According to Samsung Electronics President Kye-hyun Kyung, Chinese rampant production after certifying DDR5 ram could wipe out the inflated costs of DDR5 ram, up 414% from 2 years ago, to previous levels at the end of 2026

Is this a good thing or a bad thing, /g/?
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>>108854926
Shit, why did I by micron.
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>>108854926
>Is this a good thing or a bad thing, /g/?
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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>>108855004
You can travel to China and stuff your bag full of ram and come back and it'll still be cheaper than 2 sticks of 64GB.

Hell, you can even sell them for a profit.
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thank you Communist Party of China
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>>108854926
Won't happen, most expect not until 2029 until CXMT can produce sufficiently to be competitive.
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>>108854926
ai will develop the next generation of hardware
ddr5 will look like 1960s punch cards compared to whats coming
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>>108855114
>ai will develop the next generation of hardware
oh so we're going to regress then
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Uh, datacenters will just vacuum all the fresh cheapies?
Do people really think the price will tank? lol
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>>108855099
Ultra-statist communist China seems friendlier to commerce and international trade than all of the anglo+euro countries combined.

Why?
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>>108855133
Real capitalism hasn't been tried yet. The top-1% holding 70% of all wealth isn't enough yet. Once they reach 80%, hell, even 90%, by vacuuming up all wealth with transfer either through your taxes or insider trading with their puppet president in office, we'll see real prosperity in the bottom 99% as the wealth finally trickles down.
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>>108855130
probably depends on how much resistance big tech gets when it comes to building the new data centers. people are pretty unhappy.
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>>108855130
I don't think trump will let datacenters use chink backdoored RAM they just had a melty over consumer grade switches and routers made in china
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>>108855133
It's pretty simple. Actual communists regulate markets like a tiger in an enclosure. Liberals will have a tiger in the house but with a ball and chain on one of it's legs. Meaning that China's markets are more free as long as you don't cross very defined boundaries.
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>>108855175
I've read that half of the planned datacenters are canceled already.
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Should I sell all my PC hardware right now and just use my phone to shitpost for the rest of the year, then rebuy everything at -414% of the cost?
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>>108855212
I actually did that on the covid price spike, sold everything but my work laptop then bought top of the line hardware for cheap 3 years later, I could do it again but unlike covid I don't see an end in sight for this bullshit.
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>>108855175
>>108855205
>le people

Literally nobody gives a FUCK about "le people". 99% of the city can vote no, and they'll build it anyways. You think your vote fucking matters? LMAO!
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>>108854926
Great news, will this help ease off DDR4? I don't have any DDR5 machines but I do have a couple DDR4 machines I would like to max out.
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I won't ever buy anything from Samsung again except maybe RAM chips because of the current cartel.
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>>108855133
They're simply doing the exact opposite of what their opponents are doing to look better, chinks are inherently jewish in nature just more subtle.
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>>108855212
Sell everything and give the money to me.
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>>108855244
We will just ask our fellow black citizens to do something about it since they are immune to punishment.
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>>108855175
it really doesn't matter what people think, the AI thing is perceived as an existential issue by those in power, probably correctly. it's not just a tool for pumping out shitty code and ERP. this is the space race times a hundred and AI is going to play a key role in WWIII, especially in an era of deep and deepening cultural fracture, fifth generation warfare, ecological flux, etc. this will go beyond even the mass mobilization and total war of the last century.
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>>108855175
>people are pretty unhappy
a handful of extremely loud autistic luddites on social media =/= people
go outside and ask someone at your local walmart if they even know what a datacenter is
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>>108854926
If China actually do this I'll fly the chinese flag in front of my house, but I don't have much faith anyone would be so benevolent when theres so much money to be made.
Still, if the CCP want to shake off their capitalist global image a bit they'd do so pretty well by crashing the ram market. Also it would make koreacucks mad as fuck so I'm all for it.
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>>108855313
>a handful of extremely loud autistic luddites on social media =/= people
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/only-2-backed-kevin-olearys-130500350.html
98% of people are Luddites, and you are in the 2 percentile of chads
Do you even listen to yourself sometimes?
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>>108855004
I'll see it then believe it.
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>>108855354
it got approved anyway
once again, autistic luddite opinions dont matter in the real world
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>>108855354
>5 degrees during the day
>28 degrees at night
cool and normal
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>>108854926
waow stop it with the misinformation OP. you're making it sound like communism works better than capitalism, and we don't want to expose the children to such blatant falsehoods
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>>108854926
>Price to Fall 414%
Wow, getting paid a lotta money to take ram of their hands.
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>poorfags are putting their trust in the chinks
what went right
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>>108855133
Late-stage capitalism is all about securing market dominance through bribery and sending as many shekels as possible back to the jewish motherland.

Having to show an ID to fap, install an operating system, or buy a VPN subscription has destroyed the last red scare propaganda tool the west had. People want checks and balances, and communism keeping capitalism in check might be the next best thing for a system perverted by kikes
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>>108854926
>According to some retard
I'm not falling for the tricks of the chink merchant

>>108855459
>jewish made system keeping jewish made system in check
dumbass

>>108855378
>>108855354
if Utah doesn't fight back this one then I hope each one of them gets raped by a thousand jeets
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>>108854926
>Samsung jew boss lying again

China has not lowered the price of their memory, they could have sold their shit lower than the market price when Trump gave them the green light but they didn't. The truth is they are more likely to stick with the price hike.
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>>108855378
This is good news. Just think of all the hardware that can be liberated from the slopmines.
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>>108855114
nah AI will become so efficient it can be run on any potato and you only need supercomputers for frontier research
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>>108855261
one they have the market share locked down they'll squeeze just like the capitalists
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>>108854926
God I hope so. I want to get cheap computing back again. We had so good hard disk prices for about a year or two. GPU were finally coming down a bit after the shitcoin hype
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>>108855476
>le everything was made by judes
Kill yourself
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>>108855133
China has basically put most of their coastal cities and the surrounding regions into capitalist economic zones.
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>>108854926
>another chinkshit cope thread
holy shit who keeps paying you to make these. It will have shit timing and wont' be cheap. You think the Chinese hate money too? lol, lmao
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>>108854926
i'm not waiting 6 months to (maybe, 5%) save $200
this is a psyop to make people hold off so that they can swoop the rest of it from right under our noses
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>>108854926
Why would the Chinese sell at a loss? It’s going to $2k/GB next year
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>>108855620
its not about the money, its about sending a message
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>>108854926
>Prices fall by >100%
So we are now using Trump math?
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>>108855313
Decisions should be made by people who care about those things, this is why voting is not mandatory. The Walmart people couldn’t even tell you if the Iran war is still happening.
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>>108854926
Saying RAM prices are "to fall" is not guaranteed. It's another media spin.
The only prices that matter are today's.
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do ddr2 chips flashed to report it's a ddr5
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>>108854926
>Ram Prices to Fall 414%
do they pay you take the ram?
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>>108855133
China is actually nazcap, while the Anglosphere is actually racecommunist
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America need to up their sanction against CXMT
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>>108855212
Dumb fucking bitch.
God I hate women.
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>>108854926
Now we just need the Chinese to drone bomb the South Korean factories and we'll never have to worry about coordinated, artificial price-gouging ever again.

>>108855755
Some kits are up 5-600% right now.
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>>108855212
Brilliant cake saver.
God I love women.
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they should increase ddr5 production by 500% and then the AI companies should stop buying it so then it becomes very cheap and then give me the winning lottery numbers and supermodel girlfriends and sports cars
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>>108855114
>Hey chatgpt build this fab plant
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>>108855133
Because they are simply participating in capitalism the way Marx intended. Use capitalism to build your economy up, and then shift to a communist economy before you fall into late-stage capitalism like the US did.
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>>108855951
he's just being a math nerd.
A 76% price fall will be more accurate then 414% fall as OP wrote, as that implies negative values.
Original article that say it will crush the 414% price increase which is also correct.
No idea why I even wrote this shit
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>>108855589
why's it always avatarfags of the most troon-core anime garbage that post whiplashingly retarded posts like this that are at least 3 stddevs below the average intelligence of a given thread?
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I don't particularly care about the "chink spyware" "but israel spies on you too" bullshit.
It's just that their shit is way more janky at that. It's more malware than just gathering personal data. It's not just "just let tsung-cho check your shit, it's not like he's able to do anything with it other than analyze patterns of behavior to sell you shit, they only care about your porn collection for hoarding purposes". It's that it affects things like performance or breaks things in the way. And their shit is even buggier than this amerindian bullshit somehow (just not as bad as it once was)
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>>108854926
The RAM cartel eating shit is absolutely a good thing. If Chairman Xi is the one to deliver, so be it.
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>>108855133
Because more than communism, Xi Ping-pong cares about China's political and cultural position.
Producing and selling shit that everyone wants is an easy way to become relevant, especially if everyone else is eating glue and wasting time on retarded bullshit.
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>>108854926
Sasuga chyna
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The more the US invests in data centers and the longer the Iran war drags on, the better it is for China.

There's no explanation for why the US has x10 the number of data center China has, and why the US wants to triple that amount by 2030, when their LLMs are only marginally better than China's models.
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>>108854926
I'm actually impressed by the combination of illiteracy and mathematical retardation that must have gone into misinterpreting that post as
>DDR5 Ram Prices to Fall 414% by End of 2026
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>>108855559
>According to (((Richard Pipes))),[90] the idea of a classless, egalitarian society first emerged in ancient Greece.
>In 1848, (((Marx))) and Engels offered a new definition of communism and popularized the term in their famous pamphlet The Communist Manifesto.
now check who are in charge of the money institutions in the west you stupid kike nigger lover
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>>108855261
>>108855459
This.

Also, late stage capitalism isn't a thing. It was invented by liberals on Reddit.
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>>108855133
Europe is atm neocommunist. They steal me more than 60% of what i earn. For what purpose you ask? Well, we have millions of africans and south americans getting paid for doing nothing, an immense army of bureaucrats and their families, mass fake ill people getting paid leave, etc.
qrd: they are using my money to destroy my country.
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>build PC in october 2019
>covid hits, prices increase
>build PC in august 2025
>AI cult hits, prices skyrocket
I'll let you guys know when I'm building a new PC since apparently I'm the harbinger of jewish price hikes
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>>108854926
I remember post about memory spiking in price. I never got around to checking it out.
I saw prices the other day. Holy shit, even 32GB SD cards are $30.
I'll be protecting my 128GB and 256GB cards.
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>>108855004
fpbp
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They're gonna need to rename themselves "Atlantis" if China ever manages to supplant TSMC domestically.
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You will have a gaming computer and you will be happy
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>>108855212
is that a chick or a dude?
everything from the head down looks like a woman.
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>>108858147
It was invented by marx, he's the author of the idea that communism comes after absolute capitalism.
Guy was delusional freak writing pseudoscientific bs. It's not like much changes since then, leftists are still like that.
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>>108854926
Wow another article about memory that's crazy and totally organic
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>>108855133
The western financial system runs on the idea that the real world is just an abstraction for dollar values. No reason to actually make and sell actual products when you can make and sell dollars.
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>>108855133
>Slave nations builds slave things for slave prices
>Wow guise, slaves are so economical
Fuckingkek
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>>108855133
american jews are too powerful. the burgermutts cannot stop them, no matter how greedy they are
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>>108854926
RAM improving
We're still fucked for NAND and HDDs tho
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>>108862183
Ram disks will save the day.
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>>108860993
it's Tim Buckley
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>>108855133
China is national socialist with communist social policies powered by the chinese people.

America is techno bureaucratic corrupt democracy who could care less about the american flag or what it means to be "american" as the country has no longer an identity, but an unwavering blind worship of the USD.

Anyone can be american, any spic, any nigger from africa, any mexican can be american, have kids in america and live in america for 10+ years because of the 14th amendment and never have anything happen to them while living here illegally or ever be checked out by law enforcement or the government.

The american society has no control on who lives here, who is targeted and until major ratifications to amendments, will never solve the endless crime and border problem.

You can't do that in china. China means you are chinese, America means nothing, America means whatever, America means do whatever you want until .

America stands for a mass of workers who have been replaced out of their homeland, criminals running around doing whatever.

This is why america will always be lawless, and china will always have law and order. Because the people on a fundamental level in china know who exists around them.
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>>108854926
>Fall 414%
do people in this board not know basic math anymore?

also, why would the chinese lower prices? they want to make money too, you retards...
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>>108854926
So... I'd get paid 3x it's current value for taking them?
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>>108860999
capitalism is antiintellectual pseudoscience
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>>108854926
Wrong. After the price went up by 414%, the price must fall by 75,8% to reach its previews level. greetings from /biz

>>108855426
>>108855685
>>108855755
>>108863657
this
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>>108863977
Came here to say this.
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>>108854926
Don't worry, there will be significant tarrifs to prevent big tech from losing its monopoly status.
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>>108864182
good
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>>108855124
Already have been
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>>108865243
top kuk
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>>108865664
top make americans suffer
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>>108855133
The US government regularly prevents competition and has state chosen winners in many markets.
Google right now has 2 (two) legally adjudicated illegal monopolies that it is allowed to continue perpetrating on the world. We even threatened sanctions on the EU when they looked like they might also declare Google an illegal monopoly and actually do something about it.
The US is pushing hard for feudalism, which the USSR proved is somehow an even worse system than communism.
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>>108854926
>Suit says X therefore X is true
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>>108854926
I kneel to chad jinping
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>>108855133
Chinese retail and commerce is driven by capitalism. There is intense competition in the field. Look at the Shenzen market place. There isnt any government middleman between transactions. Europe is experimenting with communism. American has local NIMBY.
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>>108854926
all backdoored btw
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>>108869843
based, as long as it's not jewnited states backdoors i'm fine
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>>108854970
As an American I hope for China to succeed until we can blame all our problems on the Chinese like the Germans do with us.
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CHINKS HAVE PROMISED CHEAP RAM FOR YEARS NOW
WHERE THE FUCK IS IT?
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>>108854926
Jevons paradox. If China makes ram 400% cheaper, the AI providers will instantly buy it up and bring it back to insane prices.
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>>108873499
Sorry, Chinese chips are BANNED in the US!

>consumers can't buy
>corporations like Dell and HP slurps it up and puts them into their laptops, etc
>sells it to Americans as they're allowed to have it by the government and it's now "Made in USA" like Trump Phones are

Hehehe.
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>>108854926
Cool. Now do the same to SSD and HDD prices.
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>>108873577
The US can't ban everyone from buying Chinese RAM. The less demand is there for the approved RAM, the cheaper that will be.
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>>108854926
why would china invest heavily to crush their profits ?



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