what's stopping you from running without systemd?
Init system is bottom of the barrel in terms of things I care about when choosing a distro.
>>108856955>Virtio GPU
>>108856967what do you check for?>>108856967>init systemsystemd is more than an init system
>>108856955I like actually systemd on linux systems.But personally Windows is still a far better desktop operating system. And removing systemd will just be a meanless and doesn't fix the issue that there is no good desktop environment all of them suck some suck less. And window managers are a fucking meme and a waste of time right now my preference is KDE but it's very janky and all other DEs fucking suck, yes I have tried all of them and KDE was the least worse option.
KDE is coming out with systemdgenie soon. If I can control it with an intuitive GUI interface I don’t really care how complex it is under the hood.
>>108856975spbp op is a fag
>>108856986>KDE is coming out with systemdgenie soon. If I can control it with an intuitive GUI interface I don’t really care how complex it is under the hood.Systemd haters love unix they love overly simplistic system that are a joke and hate systemd because it's rebust. They would have hated gnu too if they didn't massively benefit form it.
>>108856955the lack of use case
>>108856984>>108857016Please explain what you are doing that is more complex than starting/enabling services.
>>108857296sysv init can't even do that without shitting itself
>>108857296>Please explain what you are doing that is more complex than starting/enabling services.Diagnosing issues with journalctl and setting up quadlets I don't use a lot of the systemd suite, more because of the lack of my curiosity than it being features I don't need.
>>108857370>sysv init can't even do that without shitting itselfNobody uses sysvinit anymore. They use OpenRC, runinit, and dinit. All of which can start/enable services easier than systemd. runit simply uses a symlink to /var/service.>>108857511>Diagnosing issues with journalctl and setting up quadlets I don't use a lot of the systemd suite, more because of the lack of my curiosity than it being features I don't need.So, logging? The most basic functionality on every system? You can use socklog, rsyslog, etc.
>>108856955real hackers have been running without systemd for a decade.
>>108856967>init system
>>108857619Networking is questionable and I don't have a horse in the race for power/login management, but I will defend timers. Cron has no place on my systems.
>>108857619Nightmare fuel.
>>108857527>Nobody uses sysvinit anymore.faggot op is using sysvinit
>>108857619>traditional init scriptsDon't work. You need a program supervising child processes full time or fall into the PID guessing trap. Which naturally leads to the same system taking over logging and timers. Since it's now in the business of hand holding processes through their entire lifecycle.>everything elseJust don't use it retard. The systemd service manager doesn't throw a melty because you're not using resolved.
i'm not unemployed >virtio
>>108856955Nothing, you just posted my main os i run on baremetal (diffently from you).
I like my custom unit files
>>108856955Nothing. I daily drive MX Linux with sysvinit, and Fedora Cinnamon with systemd. Feels good to have a foot in each world.
>>108856955NixOS will never support it
>>108857527I use both Devuan with sysvinit, and Void with runit on my main two computers. ngl runit is bliss, but sysvinit is also straightforward and I'm perfectly happy with it too.
>>108858268Yes. At a point, systemd just became a brand. Hence systemd-boot, which is just gummyboot rebranded. But these retards think it's all one piece just because of the name.
>>108856955it used to be pipewire setup. but now Artix defaults to that and XLibre by default, so I have no reason not to switch away from systemd nonsense.
>>108856955That i don't want to. I have yet to see a proper reason why i shouldn't use it.
>>108857619You forgot systemd-boot
