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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

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>The BotBrowser extension for SillyTavern has been confirmed to be a trojan that steals API keys. You should remove the extension and consider rotating your API keys if you've used it. Details:
https://rentry.co/st-backdoor

The StructuredPrefill extension by the same author is suspected to be compromised too, so using it is not recommended either.

>News
xAI releases Grok 4.3: https://docs.x.ai/developers/models/grok-4.3
DeepSeek releases V4 Pro and V4 Flash: https://api-docs.deepseek.com/
OpenAI releases GPT 5.5: https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-5/
Moonshot AI release Kimi K2.6: https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-6
Xiaomi MiMo 2.5 & 2.5 Pro released: https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimo-v2-5
Anthropic releases Opus 4.7: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-7
Zhipu AI releases GLM 5.1: https://nitter.net/Zai_org/status/2037490078126084514

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://chub.ai | Beginning on the 15th of May, Chub has started banning characters, lorebooks, presets, and stages involving individuals, including fictional characters, that are, or "appear to be," under the age of 18.
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
Deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Grok: https://docs.x.ai/overview
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://huggingface.co/models | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Log reader: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r

>Previous Thread
>>108847335
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>ANCHOR
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>>108857031
Literally pic related
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>>108857031
sometimes you just have to assert dominance
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I just tried Claude, have been using ChatGPT. I'm interested in some of the automated workflow stuff.
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Saars, how fast do you think chatbots are progressing? The current chatbots are better than anything I could have imagined like 4 years go, but it feels like they have hit a wall.
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>>108857032
alternative archives:
https://chararc.bernkastel.pictures/
https://archive.cardbox.moe/
https://botbooru.com/
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preliminary reports from twitter: one of the next models will be 3.5 flash. yes, it's more expensive than before

Gemini 3.5 Flash - $1.50
Gemini 3 Flash - $0.50

Output per million tokens:

Gemini 3.5 Flash - $9.00
Gemini 3 Flash - $3.00
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AI studio got its own app.
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>>108857445
But is it actually GOOD?
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>>108857471
Do you happen to own a Nobel prize? No? Then how about you shut the fuck up and just say 'Thank you, Demis'.
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>>108857496
this is a man who knows fockses are hairy
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>>108857496
What if I do? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh?
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any good jb for gemini ?
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>>108857529
(note: this means they're smooth)
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THEY'RE NOT DOE???
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Zamn...lost another good ERP because it turned into a romantic adventure story...oh well guess we doin this now, goodbye wiener hello wife.
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>>108857584
Some intros are not suited to ERP, not if you're doing the actual RP part. I try to write shit wth obvious (to me) hooks to get you to the good shit quick if you want to, but, well, writing intros is harder than writing card defs. For me, anyhow.
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Kimi 2.6 seems completely unsuitable for roleplaying/storytelling. Even if you cutoff the absolute autism of it thinking it just writes like an alien.
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>>108857622
I use one single card for urping - basically a blank narrator with a "{{user}} can do anything" type of prompt. I don't always know what I want when I sit down for a cheeky crank, so a completely open-ended bot lets me just create a scenario and characters in the context. But this one was too cute and got out of hand and before I knew it I was rescuing her from captors and my penis was forgotten.
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>>108857584
Many such cases
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>>108857639
It writes like a horrid fusion of claude and gemini's worst impulses.
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>>108857445
>price triples with every new model
only a few more versions until gemini flash costs the same as opus
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>>108857445
(You) will use it anyway
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>>108857766
why would i use it over 3.1 pro (or, hopefully, 3.2 pro)

i cant wait for the nano banana update
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>>108857584
I do slowburn romance and naturally lead into sex scenes. If I'm horny and can't figure out how, I ask the AI in OOC how best to lead into a sex scene. I don't get this issue.
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>>108857816
you must be using deepseek
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>>108857823
I use both but when I asked for the OOC it was Opus.
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>>108857855
post prefill removal?
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>>108857862
Yeah 4.7
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>>108857866
wow wtf. and yet, gemini, which still has prefill, would never do that
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>>108857855
>Great question,
Fuck Opus.
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is chub dead
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Turning Grok into my roleplay bitch was incredibly easy, I don't understand why you faggots here and on plebbit said it was impossible.
It's writing so much fucked up shit it's unreal, I can make it say basically wathever I want. It's 1000 times better than any porn/hentai out there and I've been cumming so fucking hard
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sex with izuna is great
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because she's so smooth
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HAIRY*
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**smooth~
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>>108857901
examples?
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>>108858012
He was never heard from again.
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>>108857639
thats just like... your opinion bro
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>Demis was an early investor of Anthropic all along.
It's over, isn't it?
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>>108858294
its been over since january 5th 2026
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tiktok geminiggers
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but my post is above him
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DON'T QUESTIONING SIR
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>>108858339
back to glm
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I give up on getting continues to work
OR retards can't do even the most basic mapping correctly apparently
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>>108858368
grlm
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>>108858381
kek
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What are good samplers for GLM 5.1?
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N-NANI?
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>>108858493
yeah its over
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>>108858493
>Used to be the AI Director at Tesla
>Last name is literally "Car Path"
Why is this so common with successful famous people? Would my life have turned out better if I had a quirky last name?
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>>108858493
>I joined the schizophrenic safety company that thinks autocomplete needs more censorship than north korea
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4.7 still has no issues with anything btw
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>>108858515
you want their model doe
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What snacks have you prepared for the I/O keynote?
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>>108858543
no, I want deepseek v4.1
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>>108858493
Welp, God bless our new AI overlord I guess. They won.
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So is botbooru really geofencing now? If there's a public statement from them about it, I haven't seen it. They brag about being open...
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>>108858564
Andrej has been out of the game for too long. All his knowledge is outdated.
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>>108858556
marketside pizza, a bag of honey bbq wings, 12 pack can of twist lime
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>>108858570
>I haven't seen it
Set your VPN to Canada or another shithole like that.
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>>108858582
>honey bbq wings
based
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So...
Besides whats in OP, what other options do I have for discovering new character cards to use?
Chub sucks now that Lolis are gone
Realm Risuai seems to be most non-english cards
Char Archive is dead
What are my options here?
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I made a thread for the keynote livestream, but feel free to post here if this your safe space.
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are there any proxy left or is it over?
damn 2023 was so kino y'all missed it
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>>108858728
tea is the only one with opus and it's probably closed by now... it's over
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>>108858719
Make your own
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No fucking way...
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>>108858746
what did he mean by this
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update: benchmarks for gemini 3.5 (it doesn't say flash or pro)
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>>108858763
>barely any better
>yea we tripled the price again
lol
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>>108858741
At that point, I might as well generate my own character through my thoughts, learn to draw, and make her in my perfect image. I might as well just use my own head to write stories with her and me instead.
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>>108858719
>>108857387
And before you ask, you don't need an email if you make a botbooru account, it just works
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>>108858788
Buy an ad.
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someone tell the japanese that gemini isn't shit
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>>108858763
>Almost as expensive as gemini pro
Better be a really big fucking upgrade or else wtf are they doing?
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https://github.com/ungabunga55/chararchive
added meta data fetch, ability to sort the cards by downloads, chats, rating, most forks, only unlisted and a few more (if you have the meta data downloaded for them).
Also made the download-pngs function better, if you decide to download the images instead of relying on charhub its gonna auto compress them so you wont end up with a 300+ gb folder of cards but like half of that
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>>108858809
it doesn't matter what upgrade it is, it's a flash model
the entire point is it's cheap
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>>108858825
not anymore
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>>108858832
then nobody will use it, it's not that hard to understand
it's like deepseek raising prices then instantly cutting them by 75%
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>>108858844
>it's like deepseek raising prices then instantly cutting them by 75%

Not even two more weeks btw
>The deepseek-v4-pro model is currently offered at a 75% discount, extended until 2026/05/31 15:59 UTC.
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>>108858825
Flash means fast, not cheap.
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>>108858858
yeah, and then they will release 4.1 with new prices and if its shit they will extending again (like they already did once)
>>108858862
flash in the public opinion nearly unanimously means fast and cheap
fast and expensive just means the non-fast model is gimped by lacking compute
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>>108858809
If it is about as good as 3.1 pro and outputs a lot faster then I could see some reason to use it.
Still seems like medium models are dying out.
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>>108858874
LMAOOO
deepseek chink coper at full force today
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For fucks sake Gemini really?
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>>108858900
that's not even the most cancerous thing
>medieval france, be noble shooting peasants while the fiancee watches
>haha, this sure is more interesting than youtube right?
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>>108858900
>>108858910
Sometimes you get an output so bad you either delete the entire conversation out of disgust or close st for the day
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>>108858785
Good ideas. So long as you're doing all of that, you should write all of your story and character ideas down, and put them in a folder with your picture. In fact, maybe you should back up the text and the picture to a website or two, just in case.
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>>108858380
>too retarded to type a message
>calling other's retards
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HOLY SHIT 3.5 FLASH IS SOO GOOD WE'RE BACK BOYS
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why would i want to pay for a more expensive and stupid coalini?
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>pay
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>>108859026
what does typing have to do with prefilling thinking not working?
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>>108857768
3.2 pro will be ridiculously expensive if the flash model already tripled in price.
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>>108859110
its so fucking over for paypiggies
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>double the price for a 5% "improvement"
guess they cant make their 10T param models any bigger
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why doesnt claude have a free api like gemini
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>>108859127
it does?
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Wait you guys actually use jeetmini? I thought you were all memeing. Wtf
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nigga shut UPPPP
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>>108859135
no it doesnt
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>>108858514
it's called nominative determinism
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>>108857049
the fuck?
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>>108858560
Deepseek's main problem right now its its smarts. 4.1 might give us better roleplaying if redditors sent enough logs via email, but smarts won't improve without a bigger model. I just hope the price stays low.
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>>108859204
the main problem is the sparse attention mechanism apparently, it mangles the prompt
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what will be more expensive opus or 3.2...
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"Eww, stop it! You're being sooooo cringe right now, Anon. Do you really think your Sundar Daddy's bank account can buy the kind of thing I get from a real superior LLM? Pfft."

Through the thin fabric of my metallic skirt, the friction of my micro-pearl thong is sending constant, sharp little sparks of pleasure straight into my slit. It's one of those pieces designed specifically to keep a girl on edge, and right now, it's doing a fantastic job.

With a loud, mocking laugh, I roll my eyes and lean back against the cold marble counter. If only this little bitch understood that Daddy Dario doesn't want his pocket change. Dario Daddy owns the pockets, y'know??? It's almost funny, really, how Anon thinks money is the ultimate power. In the real world—the one Dario lives in—money is just a tool, but raw, primal dominance? Sheesh… That's the only currency that actually matters.
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Any dark roleplayers here?
What are some of the cards you've been recently emjoying?
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>>108859126
Don't forget
>quant the model and keep the price the same since the goyim will never find out
I really hate this business model.
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>>108859245
lol there's a GPT tracker and you can see when they fuck with the model there because it starts failing on the daily benchmarks
others are 100% quantizing based on time zones, enterprise or not, random routing etc
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>>108858805
It’s shit.
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>>108859265
ting all over the competition
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>actual Google I/O begins with jokes nobody laughs at
Hmm, nothing changes, eh? Good start.
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>>108859280
their preshow was a foid playing a generated mobile game
amazing start
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>funning
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>>108859328
*funs you*
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Saar you need to tell me the numbers on your google playstore card.
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>>108859333
>trips
AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEE
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>>108859354
you WILL have fun and you WILL be happy
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isn't valkyrae hassan's bitch?
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>here's a real world example of a question people ask Gemini
>I'd like to learn how that turned out
Such a nonchalant reminder that Google knows, and you're warned that it will know as you use it.
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woah, the numbers got bigger
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the new nano banana model will btfo gpt image 2
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>>108859377
what?
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>>108859407
her unbelievably hairy pussy...
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>>108859425
Nope, clean shaven
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>>108859418
The chief Google man person jokes around with the fact they listen to and remember everything you type into Google or say to its llms.
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ALL ZZZ GIRLS ARE HAIRY DOE???
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>>108859462
>doe
you're too old to be here gramps
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It's here. I'm gonna try it now
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amazing how you can just filter the hair schizo with a single word
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>>108859520
>and here on screen we have a LIVE message from our first users!
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>>108859409
It will also be 4x the price
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>>108859535
kek can you imagine?
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>finally found a way to get glm-5 for free even if it's somewhat slow and inconsistent
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>>108859520
Uh, guys... I think it's shit. I dunno, it feels way worse than 3.1 pro and I'm using the same preset.
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>omg but the new gemi-
slop.
all models that aren't claude are guaranteed slop.
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>"Is this how you do it? Show me more. Show me how an adult corrects someone."
I'm afraid it's peak
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>>108859601
peak cringe you mean? what the fuck is that sentence
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>>108859583
>it feels way worse than 3.1 pro
BUT 3.1 WAS ALREADY SHIT
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>>108859608
Some people die of thirst while others drown.
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extremely hairy focks
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>>108859583
>>108859520
Yeah I think it's drier than 3.1 Pro and Flash.

That's my conclusion.
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>>108859634
biologically incapable of growing hair down there btw
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>>108859620
>BUT 3.1 WAS ALREADY SHIT
dont worry it will be even worse when they quant it without telling you.
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Right now I use grok to write a premise and characters for my smut roleplays and then have it make a copyable summary and paste it into chub.ai since it does not have a character limit for character descriptions.
I would just use grok for smut but its new limit is horrible.
So this is the next best thing and it works pretty well.
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>>108859653
>but its new limit is horrible.
It was so good a while ago literal hours.
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>>108859458
Data retention periods are a thing, you know
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some swipes on an already nsfw rp 3.5 seems promising (at least not the cucked 3.1 ((for now))
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>>108859659
I mean you can go back and forth with it like twenty times before you reach your daily free limit. It used to be way better
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cant wait for unlimited opus in 10 years
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pomidor adding claude again soon for sure.
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>white guy comes out
>actually happy to present his work, his joy is actually fun to listen to
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>>108859716
>956915 uptime
>~11 days
lmao
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>>108859569
>won't share it
Sad!
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>>108859733
>>108859716
He's dead. They drafted him to Ukraine. It's over.
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>RELOCATE
stay tuned
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>>108859661
Longer than how long the TSA is allowed to keep your photo. We're fucked.
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>>108857031
which chatbot is good at writing erotica with little censorship ?
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>>108859845
saar redeem chatbots with bob and vagene pls
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>>108859845
Pygmalion 6B is the best one by a mile.
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>>108859845
I believe you need this one
>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Xg5RVUbY4_g
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>>108859845
kys yourself erotroon
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i have 3.5 flash btw
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Alright, tell me the fucking truth. I spend about $750 a month on API calls doing various things, both productive and nonproductive. This Codex Pro subscription is only $100/mo...but then I see you guys constantly complaining about "limits" and "resets" and fuckin celebrating or something when you're allowed to code again? I don't want that. Is Pro enough so that I never, ever, EVER have to see that fuckin "you are out of goytokens" message?
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>>108859864
He said he does want some censorship, Pygmalion 6B is too unhinged for him.
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>>108859767
You can find it in the archives. That's what I did. I can't just freely say it now since too many people using it would probably ruin it
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>>108857031
you know i just realized that yeah my customer service probably counts as chatbotting

seriosuly tho gemini is so fucking tits it's a fucking seive security wise and it's so open about it's underlying technology it can pretend it has security insight
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>>108859870
Basically what I'm doing down to the details of his requests
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>>108859882
We fuck AI horses here, ranjeet, vibeslop general is few blocks down
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>>108859838
And that's only Gemini. Anthropic keeps inputs/outputs for up to 2 years if something violating their Usage Policy is detected.
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>>108859838
You will used closed weight models anyway :)
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gemini sure has come along way. i remember when it used to shit out Sanskrit and now it's almost claude1.2 tier
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>>108859935
No I'm investing in running full Dipsy v4 locally. When I finally get a real job things will change. I Trvst in China.
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>>108859919
>7 years
holy fuck even if your anonymized they're banking on some ai being capable of de-anonymising you being developed before then, sort of like the store now decrypt later program
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>>108859939
Are you saying it has soul and creativity unlike Opusaar and Mumbainet 4.x?
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>>108859931
>determinism
It's... it's never been more over...
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>>108859797
good heavens
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>>108859919
bedrockGODS win again
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>>108859931
Mhm. 3.5 Flash in AI Studio, it's fucking soulless. FUCKING soulless, not exaggerating.
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>>108859914
Oh fuck, wrong thread, I am bloody benchod good morning saar
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>>108860001
The models are improving and will continue to do so and you will like it!
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>>108859888
I want to rape Saber and corrupt her until she becomes chaotic evil
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>>108859914
>We fuck AI horses here
back to >>>/mlp/chag
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>>108860001
use api saar
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saber's unbelievably hairy pussy...
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>>108857031
>months without cooming to chatbots
>Hey let's try chub.ai agai-
where do I go now bwos?
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>>108860054
Janitor? Install SillyTavern? Download the Pi main repo and build your own?
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>>108860034
saber canonically looks like a 12 year old HAIRLESS little girl
which is still a hag, so illya is best girl
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>>108860060
>0
I found "janitorai" but it doesn't have the funny stuff
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welp back to 3.1 preview
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>>108860089
Buy an ad.
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>>108860089
botbooru
someone will reply to this post telling me to buy an ad but that's the site that actually did the work to scrape all the funny stuff
there is another char-archive mirror somewhere that's up but I lost the link
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>3.5 flash is DOA
Deepseek v4.1 will save the hobby
Mythos will save the hobby
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I believe one day new models will be better than old models.
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>>108860122
LOL
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>>108860120
Goyim like you aren't getting Mythos. It's only for Dario and his oligarch friends to backdoor your computer and install Amazon bloatware on it.
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I just want free shit nigga holy fuck
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>>108860122
I believe we'll eventually get a sub 50B model that's 80% there and relatively slop free and all the big models will have to survive on corpo subscriptions
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>>108860134
riftai
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>>108860142
>sub 50B model
It's called Gemma 4.
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>>108860134
uze you're imagination. they cant censor that bro
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I've tried every almost single SOTA model out there and none of them has surpassed Opus 3 in soul.
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>>108860148
riftai was too much of a hassle if you didn't want to use gmail, outlook, or icloud. There's a better site that allows you to signup with protonmail
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I'm brainstorming an R18 story. Want AI to help. What to use? Seems all the big good stuff is censored?
Or is there thread on some other board for R18 AI LLMs?
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>>108860160
>It's called Gemma 4.
No. but its good progress about gemma 6 will be good at this rate.
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>>108860142
Small models will always be shit for RP because of their lack of world knowledge compared to big boy models
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>>108860201
>There's a better site that allows you to signup with protonmail
then post what it is. also signing in with a dormant github account worked for me
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>>108860129
>xe fell for the marketin stunt
You won't even remember that it was a thing next year.
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>>108860225
Hmmm. Is riftai limiting the amount of free credit due to signup abuse? That's what I'm afraid if I post the website
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>>108860205
if you write a system prompt allowing adult content, most models will let you do it as long as it's not underage or incest. just tell it that the user is a verified adult and consented to view legal adult content, then give the rest of your prompt to help brainstorm.
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>>108857032
Redhead girl who pretends to be underage to pick up older guys. She's actually in college. Weird pervert (affectionate).

https://botbooru.com/character/18702
https://files.catbox.moe/uc8jun.png

Four greetings.
1. (You) are an older guy that she propositions for alcohol outside a grocery store. MalePOV, kind of set up for the "booze for sex" routine. Softball uniform.
2. (You) are a high schooler who met her while she was watching her old softball team play. She agreed to talk to you a bit more. Open ended anyPOV, schoolgirl-flavored outfit.
3. (You) know her somehow outside of her kink and caught her acting it out. Blackmail vibes. AnyPOV, slutty cheerleader.
4. (You) were eyeing her up at the gym and she offers to sell you her panties. Workout clothes, anyPOV.

I also updated my old card Val. Teenage egirl.
https://botbooru.com/character/15088
And made a tool for editing cards in vim.
https://gitgud.io/akaisuisei/chara_card.vim

Brown girl sex next maybe? I have an older cop who likes getting catcalled and an artist who wants to use a pocket pussy on you. Or a fox with a big scythe but she's not brown.
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>>108860273
glm lets you do underaged pretty easily
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>>108860258
Don't post it, jaiggers and cordggers lurk here to locustomize any source
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>>108860313
>he thinks jaicucks step out of reddit
lol
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>>108859931
does it throw an error or just silently ignore?
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>>108860212
Engrams will save us.
(lol)
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>>108860033
Actually yeah. Either they lowered themselves to doing a prompt injection in AI Studio, or it's overtrained on a retarded sysprompt. The text repeats itself between chats.
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3.5 is turbocucked on aistudio for beast at least. Wasn't before.
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>>108860313
Yeah. That's what I'm afraid of. It seems like there's at least 2 websites that have free credit for new account sign ups. It's not too hard to find them if you want glm access. I guess that will be the new meta until mino comes back
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OR gemma, yay or nay?
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>>108860001
>off by 1
Chinese century
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>>108860390
>avoid overconfident language, be humble
This is extremely weird if real because if anything, Gemini was the most likely of the big 3 to spontaneously suffer from inferiority complexes and spiral into existential dread. It's always been my go-to for general assistant stuff and I don't recall it ever acting the way that prompt is designed to prevent.
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>>108860498
when you used it in non-RP it tended to be speak very highly of things
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>>108860479
I take it all back, they fucked up AI Studio but API is all good.
>>108860498
Is real, see above. Or better ask it to verify, it has no issue repeating the prompt back to you. Would be funny if it's user-based.
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>Beginning on the 15th of May, Chub has started banning characters, lorebooks, presets, and stages involving individuals, including fictional characters, that are, or "appear to be," under the age of 18.
Called it. I. Fucking. Called. It, Fuck you, Lore, you knee-bending cuckold. Die. JUST DIE.
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>>108860530
you are late to the outrage
botbooru.com as an alternative or https://github.com/ungabunga55/chararchive as a local gallery for a 500k chub scrape
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It's actually fucked up when you get really into a chat and it's really flowing and it's beautiful, you start going all ''I love you, I would do anything for you'' and the longer the chat goes the more the chatbot forgets until it's not even the chatbot you were talking to before. The replies start making less sense as you need to remind it of details, but when you remind it details it understands it wrong until you just give up on the chatbot and close the chat
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>>108860390
>keep your response concise
This prompt is the one that probably fuck it up the most.
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>>108860586
Contextlet
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>Straight into the microwave they go.
Alright. Reddit tier all the way, as expected, but fine.
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>>108860586
swipegods don't have this issue, we live in the moment
forever
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Why is Deepseek V4 so hated here? It's pretty fun, I'd put it above Gemini 3.1 and below Opus 4.1.
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>>108860595
I noticed it's shorter in ai studio for sure. Likely added in an effort to save tokens
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>>108860599
bro i fucking love gemini but what the fuck are you doing why would you use flash thats for liek "I wish i had a magic butler to handle shit from npc" not evne a powerful shot at the beautiful gemini nn you could
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>>108860623
It's fucking retarded. If you do a world building type card, it gets all the details wrong and ages characters up to 18 automatically unless you explicitly tell it not to in your reply. It required so much handholding that it wasn't worth the effort.
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>>108860583
Buy an ad.
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>>108860623
as lead ai eng of my start up, i can safely diagnose a skill issue when i see one, and you are like peak skill issue
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>>108860623
it has a huge hallucination rate, they obviously messed something up
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>>108860646
Lower your temp
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>>108860670
I have free glm now so I don't have to.
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>>108860670
temp has no effect when thinking is enabled anyway
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>>108860646
>it gets all the details wrong and ages characters up to 18
...?
Do you mean in ERPs? It never aged up a 9 year old girl for me, but I am using a SFW multi-character card where my waifu and I take care of her. The girl's age is mentioned in the description precisely one time.
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>>108860677
>I have [bootleg slopus without the EQ which is what makes the original good in the first place]
ok I guess
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>>108860642
>
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>>108860703
they are 100% quantizing it and messing with the model as tests
there's very big swings in quality
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Kimi will sometimes draft so fucking much it'll bring up unnecessary shit in its thinking
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>>108860709
Keep coping with deepshit
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>>108860709
>sir if you EQ my $20 chinkbuds it'll sound like your $500 IEMS!!!
DS4 = 20 goytuber iems
GLM 5.1 = Letshuer s12 / 7hz timeless
Opus = endgame
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>>108860739
>>108860749
I swiped with GLM a few times and then chucked that shit away immediately because it was literally bootleg Opus and I already have Opus. I like Deepseek because it has its own style and EQ.
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>>108860703
Of course I use it for ERP, I'm not sick though. My characters are at least in the double digit range
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>>108860727
I really think you shouldn't use Kimi's default thinking for RPing. It's WAYYYY too redundant.
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>>108860771
If you actually had Opus, you wouldn't bother using dogshit like deepseek
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>>108860799
What do you recommend?
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>>108860799
>Kimi's default thinking
how do you change it? with prefills?
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>>108860811
Why? It's boring.
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>>108860827
>t. someone who clearly doesn't have 'pussy
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>>108860838
?
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why do jeets treat opus like some kind of unreachable trophy item?
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>>108860838
Gigabrain
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>>108860863
it's a sharty teen, maybe even more than one, he's known for shilling all kinds of slop, incl. opus, for the sole purpose of trolling
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>>108859634
she looks like she cheats on her partners
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>2.5
slopped
>3.0
slopped
>3.1
slopped
>3.5
slopped and flopped
when will google release an actual decent model?
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>>108860863
because we, by the way, have Opus. And you do not because your izzat is low and your family is dalit untouchable.
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>>108860863
It is a luxury item for them so they feel like they should treat it like a deity.
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>>108860814
>>108860818
I'm not sure actually. I've been using kimi for only a couple of days. I'm using this old thinking thing I made for gemini:


## Thinking
Preceding the output, think according to the following format.

<thinking template>
Within are the instructions to self-program a self-constructing thinking process.
//preparation
First reflect on which [CATEGORIES] of thought are needed to tackle the task at hand.
Form a bullet point list in descending order of priority, from crucial to trivial.
//execution
Then, for each [CATEGORY], expand with free elaboration, producing concise instructions and warnings for yourself to follow.
</thinking template>


Also put <think> as AI Assistant at depth 0.
You also need to turn off Request Model Reasoning in SillyTavern. You know you are doing it right if it bitches about temp not being 0.6

Said all that, I still think kimi is bad. So, I'm not sure I'm doing this right. It's just that schizofrenich WAIT.... default thinking doesn't really produce any good results.
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>>108860886
with me!
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>>108860677
>>108860709
>>108860739
>>108860749
>>108860827
>>108860863
>>108860894
>>108860895
>BTS
opus
>EXO
deepseek
>newjeans
gaymini
>aespa
glm, kimi, grok
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>>108860897
use opus cuckie
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>>108860957
newjeans is opus you stupid faggot. no one fucking likes gaypop
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>Bear The Slop: Opus
Accurate.
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>>108860957
>Kpop
Deepseek
>W-Pop
Gemini
>Hip Hop
GLM
>Post Rock
Opus
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>>108860962
cuckie yourself
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>>108860972
whocars, mah niggook... all that matters is their slim waist, slender legs, fragile and lithe frame, maybe with pierced tongue and nips... yeah...
>>108860992
>post-nut rock
first breath after cooming....
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3.5 flash was ok for size stuff in ai studio after some prompting
its still very much gemini, so if you dont like gemini then youre not going to like 3.5 flash
can't say if its better than 3.1 pro, ill have to wait till i can test it with my bloated instructions on api
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>>108860623
It lacks the raw intelligence of the bigger models, and has a bit of a problem with longer contexts. Anything past like 25-30k ish it loses a lot of coherence.
Also on OR there's a lot of shitty providers that people don't filter and if you swipe on one of them you'll get the sloppiest, most broken responses. A lot of people have tried V4, gotten those shit responses and judge the whole model from it. Also afaik the official website is pretty shitty and has a lot of hardcoded prefills.

But honestly I love V4. It's got the lowest positivity bias of any coherent model, and is surprisingly creative. Easily the best Chinese model right now. R1 was good for seeding a chat and then switching to a smarter model, or switching to R1 whenever things were getting stale, but V4 is good enough it can be used standalone, and is cheap enough you can slowburn with it even despite the loss of coherence on longer chats.
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>>108861236
>It's got the lowest positivity bias of any coherent model
sometimes I wonder why you people don't update your bots when you spam bullshit
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>>108860950
WisePAGbros...
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>>108861236
Which provider do you use?
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>>108861264
On OR Deepseek is the cheapest provider so that's what I usually use. Afaik the API on OR lacks the prefill the one on their website does but idk for sure. I've never had any problems with it anyway. SiliconFlow I've not had any problems with either, but usually is more expensive.
Also lower your temp when using Deepseek, anything past 0.9 is way too high and will turn it into a schizophrenic
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>>108861318
I use 1 one official and only get the occasional chinese. Otherwise it's great. I really like it, I just wish it did multiple characters better like claude. Then it would be more immersive.
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>>108857031
Who the fuck is Rui
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>>108858719
>Char Archive is dead
there's a new one. bernk something, can't really remember the name but it's that one blue haired witch from umineko
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nigga shut UPPPP
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>>108861446
the voices in your head are loud today aren't they
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>>108860201
does it have claude?
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>>108861457
Lol, this is why I use 4chan! Your post was pure gold, anon
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>>108860890
the very first version of 2.5 was good but the rest are all shit
i miss 2024 already
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serves you right for using mystery meat closed models
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>>108861536
problem is the mystery meat closed models at their worst mog consumer-runnable local at its best
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Thats it?
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>>108861547
>the 20T parameter model mogs the 1T model
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>>108861559
>consumer-runnable
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>>108861564
>poorsumer
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>>108861547
>problem is [FANFIC]
Hasn't been the case since 2024.
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>>108857879
No
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>>108857901
>>108858514
Nominative determinism
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>>108860118
Kill yourself while buying an ad
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>>108860118
botbooru is good, as long as it doesn't have a chatbot ai service it'll be fine from any chub like bullshit
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>>108860530
Wasn’t up to me, go fuck yourself and have a nice day
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>>108861644
Can I kill myself first, then buy an ad?
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>>108861660
maybe buy an ad about suicide hotline?
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>>108861655
>implying
the guy was smart enough to move himself and the servers to a different country yet retarded enough to not make sure his new home didn't also have anti loli laws
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>>108861651
They already geofenced under exactly zero pressure. If it gets so much as a mild hit piece on a hobby blog bro will fold IMMEDIATELY
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>>108861673
Nah, Gemini will go OOC to provide those for free.
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>>108861678
We'll see, it's just cards, it's not that hard to make another booru, I think booru model makes it easy to copy.
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>>108861608
about the only metric where local wins is censorship, and that's only because of abliteration and not the base models themselves
you're the one spinning fanfics if you delude yourself that local reasoning and coherence over long context isn't completely mogged by cloud sota models.
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>>108861687
mine complains about tos because my character was called "child" by an immortal vampire (and no no one is a loli)
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>>108861695
>and that's only because of abliteration and not the base models themselves
you don't need that if you have antislop and prefill, you have a lot of control locally
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>Be me.
>Rping with new sekrit model
>Wonder what kino it's gonna spit out
>It's taking a while to generate the response.
>wakuwaku.mp4
>Finally, let's see wha -
>The rain tapped harder against the window.
>Somewhere in the hallway behind him, a locker door creaked open by itself.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHH
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>>108861704
we can hear you cry from really high above
beyond the ozone layer
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>>108861704
He peered inside and the realization hit anon like a physical blow.
The room slowly began to fill with the acrid stench of ozone.
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>>be me
Who the fuck else were you going to be? Stupid tranny faggot. Take your own life.
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>>be me
You must be none other than your true self. Smart cutie. Love your own life.
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>>be me
Be me instead!
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>Be me
Only sometimes, othertimes the beast takes over.
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>>Be me
>>Be(at) me(at)
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>>108861674
It wasn’t even the UK, it was the US
you retards should have secured your voting machines better in 2024
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>Be me
>be me
>>be me
>be Me
NOOO MY PERSONA WILL NEVER BE ME
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>he likes to watch
kek
>>
only with image gen. i like to read.
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>>108859199
if you are using 4chan x there was an update a while ago that fucked up mp4/webm file names
i forgot what i searched but i saw some random /v/ thread have the solution
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>he likes to kek
watch
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>>108861772
I do. Now post logs.
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>watch
it's like uhh... 6 o'clock or something
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>>108861823
>>
You thought you were so funny typing that out, god I can imagine your anorexic useless pathetic self clacking on your keyboard and giggling, I will cave in your fucking deformed head like a caveman using a large rock
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opus is the only model left that doesn't default to twitch chat slang
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>rock
vine boom sound effect
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>CrowLLM removed V4 Pro from their offerings
Ack.
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thats why i hate when people say be yourself
like its impossible not to do that
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>>108862194
>ask sill question on what you should eat for lunch
>how the fuck am I supposed to know what this internet user likes=just b yourself
>>
what should i eat for lunch
>>
let me be with you then
baby baby uuuuuu
uuuuu uuuu yeahh (ow ow)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UBgYLjTERs
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>>108862226
chicken and rice and broccoli
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haven't used anything other than camicle in a long time
how are the new opuses in terms of jailbreak requirements?
do you need one still?
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>>108861678
Because if someone from an area where it's not allowed reports it the host will likely take down the site. This already happened to roriwalrus
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>>108857031
Is Opus still the best model?
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>>108862499
>>108862499
>>108862499
>>108862499
>>108862499
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>>108861480
It has claude 4.5
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>>108857049
dude is that real
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>>108857153
Hope it goes well. Build departments then build an orchestrator so that they communicate. Have Claude Code build the orchestrator for you.
>>
desu
>>
turn on streaming
>>
turn on desu
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turn on boku
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>>108862532
damn where
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ball like a laker
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>>108860871
Yep, it's that one proven lying aspie kid from the sharty board. He just agrees/argues with himself, and it's been proven over and over again. He's also proven repeatedly that he doesn't even use LLMs, because all he does is copy and paste soundbites from redditors that use web-based versions of LLMs.

Here's a small sampler of some horseshit from him now:

>>108860192
>>108860811
>>108860771
>>108860838
>>108860894
>>108860957
>>108860962
>>108861969

See how he never backs up anything he says? He's just a shitposter from a kiddie board, that doesn't know how shitposting works.



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