Google, out of pure benevolence, developed a competitive video codec which is competitive, in an effort to break up the MPEG-mafia. The MPEG-mafia was extorting everyone for the basic privilege of watching a video. What did Google do? They said, fuck you, we will make our own better codec. We will make it better and will make it open and free of charge. What was /g/tranny's response>NOOOOOOOOO GOOGLE LE BADAnd they propagated this horrible minset. Spitting in the face of charitability.
>>108859472/g/ is almost all bots. The few remaining humans like me have never heard of AV1
>>108859472>buy a whole new gpu for our 10% more effective webshit!ngreedia covertly financed this
>>108860117actually no, it's openly financed by ngreedia!>just consooom goodgoi!
>>108859472>out of pure benevolenceGet off your high SUV.AOM is the logical conclusion of the rational tit-for-that game theory strategy.
>>108859472I don't hate AV1 or even webm. I DO hate webp, and I'll hate avif if sites start forcefeeding that too.
>>108859472My phone has hardware av1 decode and it still sometimes struggles to play smb shares on my home network. Dlna works better but that's extra hassle and I don't have that issue with hevc
I never said I hated AV1. Did you even ask me before writing that crap.
why should i have any love for a codec primarily designed so a trillion dollar company can save money streaming worthless corposlop over the internet and then they demand I buy a new GPU to use it? FUCK THAT AND FUCK YOU
>>108860926You can use it to save space on your local media storage though. The difference is big if you download high res rips. >muh new GPUthen just download h265 rips. but your computer is garbage if it can't decode av1 because even a more than a decade old i7 can decode 4k at 30 fps using dav1dhttps://www.phoronix.com/news/dav1d-libgav1-AV1-performance
But I don't want the fan whirring while I watch my animu.
>>108861003It worked fine on my shitty old cpu that lags on 4k content, didn't notice any difference.
Isn't vp9 better than av1? especially for producing small files like the 4mb limit of this place. Is there an empirical comparison of the two? Vp9 is really a good codec.
>>108859472maybe they should improve their encoder so that everything doesnt look like blurry shit devoid of any texture?
>>108861063AV1 is basically VP10, so no, VP9 isn't better
>>108861063for whatever reason gpu encoder/decoder av1 looks worse than gpu hvec and gpu vp9.ofc cpu/dav1d mogs them all.
>>108859648It can't be, av1 is old.>>108859472Is it not only good for sports TV translations and news? Was it not the point of the codec back when they were working on their google TV shit?
>>108860644Why do so many people hate webp anyway? The only instance when I even noticed an image using the format is when 4chan complains about it. Otherwise it just functions like any other image format.
>>108861115You don't know much about video encoding if you think that. A newer version is not necessary better for all cases. If you search around you will see that av1 may produce smaller files but may also fail to retain fine details like moles on skin. VP9 is really good for that.
>>108861183AV1 is literally a superset of VP9.
>>108861172productive software barely supports it and people often refuse to update (see, for example, people sticking to older non-subscription Adobe programs)
>>108861385People (and corpos) refusing to update is not a problem of the format though.My understanding is that /g/ hates .webp because it's an 'afterthought' of .webm or something. This is not a valid criticism of course. So /g/ is retarded, as usual.
>>108861502>This is not a valid criticism of courseidk image format that's just a video is pretty fucking retarded
>>108861502>>108861553 (Me)also it's on VP8, which is outdated. AVIF is technically better but the fact that we need to update image formats following video codecs is pretty fucking retardedI can't wait for JXL to gain adoption
>>108860974>then just download h265 rips. but your computer is garbage if it can't decode av1 because even a more than a decade old i7 can decode 4k at 30 fps using dav1da decade?not even a macbook m1 and m2 have av1 hw decoderthese are fucking macbook m2 pros released in 2023only iphones released in late 2023 support ityeah, these are totally garbage laptops and phones
>>108859472take your blurslop codec elsewhere
i get the very strong feeling that there's basically one guy that actually cares about this shit and he posts about it constantly
>>108861746It used to be, then picrel happened. Otherwise it's likely few people would even know AV1 exists at all desu senpai. I say that as a diehard AV1 fan.
video peaked with H.264 and x264
>>108863202>t. ultra poorfag who can't afford OLED
>>108863921chroma macro blocking that obvious is literally a skill issue with h.264
>>108860117>ngreedia covertly financed thisI bought the Intel ARC cardAre you retarded?
>>108859472VVC is already there and it's better.
>>108863921looks the same
>>108861566>AVIF is technically betterAvifis so computationally heavy that it chokes the fuck out my 9800x3d when opening a folder with avif images. Same for heic.jxl is the only one of the modern image formats that’s even remotely usable, and even then it’s not instantaneous. .webp is cheap to decode but it’s a failed format with no future that needs to die
Avif won.
>>108859472Poogle and its effect on (((the web))) is way worse than paying $0.50 for Microsoft HEVC Extensions
>>108864590>Avifis so computationally heavy that it chokes the fuck out my 9800x3d when opening a folder with avif images. Same for heic.oh yeah riight, how could I forget the fact that you need a GPU for STATIC IMAGESlet's hope that JXL adoption isn't going to suck balls
>>108861172>don't notice I saved a webp>wanna just look at the image later>only gimp and the web browser can open it
>>108863921>oledworse "investment" than getting married in current year lmao
>>108864590>.webp is cheap to decode but it’s a failed format with no future that needs to dieit's bound to join the google graveyard eventually
>>108864590>>108865523Are you retards trying to decode 12-bit 4:4:4 AVIF images? 8-bit 4:2:0 AVIF images software decode exponentially faster than JXL images.
>>108865843likely not if .avif max out at 10-bit
>>108863921let's see a non blurry comparison
>https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/lUr-dNQgP3ZshxeEYX_LaA/you've spammed this dog shit at least 200 times this monthwhy are you changing the hash, daiz?
>>108859472Google did not develop AV1, AOM did. AV1 is based on previous developments, including Daala from Xiph, Thor from Cisco, and VP10 from Google. Attributing AV1 solely to Google in your post is either ignorance or bad faith.
>>108869314This daiz spammer acts suspiciously like a vvc shill. He doesn'r outright say it but trying to derail threads about AV1 makes him pretty suspect.
I LOVE MODERN VIDEO CODEC DEVELOPMENT BEING GEARED TOWARDS SAVING BITRATE RATHER THAN QUALITY AT ALL COSTS. I LOVE MOVING AWAY FROM COMPANIES HAVING TO PAY FOR A FIXED AMOUNT OF BANDWIDTH REGARDLESS SO THEY MAY AS WELL ENCODE THE VIDEO ONTO THE DISC AT THE HIGHEST BITRATE POSSIBLE. I LOVE AGGRESSIVE DENOISING. GOD I LOVE THE FUTURE OF VIDEO WHERE PRIORITY IS OPTIMIZING CDN BANDWIDTH AND NOT VIDEO QUALITY.
>>108869929Shut the fuck you little whinning faggot, there's a special snowflake. Most people don't even like the god dam screen door film noise, it's distracting and makes it feel like the movie was shot with $100 cameras instead of $1000 ones (ie another fucking sharknado).BUTT if you're so autistic you put a magnifying glass on your TV and demand accurate representation of your stupid film noise, this exists.https://github.com/BlueSwordM/svt-av1-psyex
>>108859648kek
>>108869952>>108869903why did you train one of your bots on indians, daiz?
>>108869980Not him but can you suck my fucking cock?
>>108869929WHATDON'T YOU LOVE THE FUTUREDON'T YOU LOVE THIS SHIT
>>108870128see >>108869952afaik, netflix doesn't use svt-av1-psyex
AV1 IS THE FUTUREI LOVE BITSTARVED TRASH AV1PLEASE GOOGLE MORE COMPRESSIONI DON'T NEED TO USE ALL THIS INTERNET COMPRESS IT MORE
I wish 4chan would let people upload AV1 videos.We could have a board to watch full episodes compressed into 4mb.
>>108870151You can already do that on umigalaxy though I don't intend to shill it. It's like in a BETA stage.
>>108861385>productive software barely supports it and people often refuse to update (see, for example, people sticking to older non-subscription Adobe programs)So it's bad because old versions of software don't support it?With that rationale, literally every new format ever will always be bad
Why is Daiz pretending to be an Indian now
>>108870179>With that rationale, literally every new format ever will always be badwell yeah old good new bad
>>108870151IMO AV1 should also come with filesize bump + duration bump (iirc it's 5 minutes now on /wsg/ and two minutes on other boards)just make sure to NOT update the limits on /gif/, fuck that shithole
>>1088702364chan would be flooded with DMCAs, allowing uploads past 5 minutes would be legal suicide for this barely working shithole of a website.
>>108870249just restrict long videos to /vip/ :^)
>>108870231Except formats that were introduced when you were young like MP4, of course
>>108870268I wasn't even born when h.264 was standardized
>>108870269>he missed out on shitty looking Xvid AVIs downloaded with Kazaa and Limewire
>>108870128oh man is that color banding? i wish I could tell.
>>108870128Normgroids literally don't care about video quality
Even the normies know that "Youtube compression" is suckass but these troons think renaming it "AV1" will get people that actually give a shit about quality to care about it. Jewish tricks. Even the normies recognized its fraudulence.You can stick your Youtube compression codec up your ass
>>108870172>umigalaxynobody cares.
is this diaz having a meltie?