Will AI lead to the death of capitalism, considering a growing population coupled with a decline in jobs?
>>108864949No, capitalism and its product, the AI, will lead to a post-scarcity world.You can already generate any art, music, writing, math, code, video, for almost pennies, where in the past, it would have cost tens of thousands to millions of dollars each.And every single person on the entire planet has access to this technology. Abundance of creativity and abundance of work output for literally free.
>>108864970Get a load of this naive goy.
>>108864970>No, capitalism and its product, the AI, will lead to a post-scarcity world.With the current technology and science we have right now, we could already have a post-scarcity world. So the question is, why don't we?
One can hope that's the outcome. Most likely things will get far FAR worse before then though.Or it all devolves into corporate feudalism. >>108864970What happens when nobody can afford the AI because they have no job or income.Even if we get UBI what's to stop the tech elite from simply controlling the standard of living for others? Say something mean to Mr. CEO? Looks like you no longer can have your robot make you food!
>>108864970>capitalism and its product, the AI, will lead to a post-scarcity worldAll of that is commie nonsense. There is no "capitalism", there's free market, or market under total control of some entity, like a single monopoly, a communist party and so on. There is no "post-scarcity", because resources in the world are finite.You fucking degenerate, why are you even making noises if you don't know the most basic of things? How can you be on tech board if you fail to understand that resources to make said tech are finite?
>>108864949No, increasing wealth inequality will lead to the death of capitalism. It doesn't need any help.
>>108865031>What happens when nobody can afford the AI because they have no job or income.I use all those tools for free. Free products are available from almost every AI company with daily limits. Just swap from one company to another. Hell, you can run models from your computer on a single 8GB GPU and 16GB ram. >>108865037Commie nonsense is government ownership of AI, government restriction on AI, and government control of AI. Thats something Europe wants to do. Even China, the supposed communist state, is laissez-faire on allowing domestic companies to produce any AI models, sell, give away, train, any model. China now controls the open source free model market.
>>108865044Envy of others is a sin
>>108865112t. golem muttoid who does its master's biddings
>>108865141marxist victimhood ideology at play
A *whole fucking lot* of people ITT would do well spending some time reading and learning on r/Accelerate.Just saying.
>>108865150billionaires are going to melt you down into biodiesel to power their data centers. rightfully so.
>>108865112>LARPing as religious on 4chan2016 was ten years ago, you can stop now
>>108865166you dont have to be a religious to recognize the inherent harm of envying what others have, comparing yourself to others and then feeling some artificial suffering from that. its a personal choice, its a destructive choice.
>>108865097>Commie nonsense is government ownership of AI>Thats something Europe wants to doShow me anything suggesting they would nationalise Mistral etc.
>>108865163i'm not a tranny, i will NEVER cut off my balls or chop off my penisI understand you are part of the castration cult, but I dont have any intentions
>>108865163>A *whole fucking lot* of people ITT would do well spending some time reading and learning on r/Accelerate.A garbage subreddit where the posters are inorganic and pushing "MUH CHINA WILL WIN" propaganda narrative pushed by Thiel and Friends.Why don't you get a bullet in your head?
>>108865172>Show me anything suggesting they would nationalise Mistral etc.it's europe; their whole thing is literally to align to the antichrist. current administration are literally the only ones resisting it; let's hope liberals don't turn to full on violent revolution by midterms humanity might actually be straight fucked if they do
No
>>108865031>What happens when nobody can afford the AI because they have no job or income.Demand disappears and these companies collapse.If no one has jobs or income then people will be hungry. Hungry people will make food. These who make more food than they need will trade it for services of other people.Oh, we reinvented economy again. Did it even went away at any point in the first place?
>>108865031>Even if we get UBI what's to stop the tech elite from simply controlling the standard of living for others? Say something mean to Mr. CEO? Looks like you no longer can have your robot make you food!How is that different from current situation for anyone under any system? If you say something about gov, they lock you up. If you say something about your current work, they fire you. So you just go to another company or start your own. In the case where 1 company controls it, then monopoly law kicks in, especially if they're engaging in tactics that destroy the market.
>>108864949No. Luxury gay space communism is a pipe dream. Life (all life, not just humans) is defined by competition over resources, it's a zero sum game, and the more any one individual is winning the more everyone else collectively has to loseAnyone trying to sell you a society of harmonious coexistence with plenty for everyone and no competition has already placed himself as the supreme overlord of that society
>>108864949Capitalism hasnt existed for over a century. Until one grow a neuromorphic chip in their basement with open source seeds/spores. It will be too capital intensive and too against the majorities desire to be funded any way but by stealing through inflationAi will just reinforce the status quo
>>108864970can i eat AI art? can i eat AI music? can i eat AI code?
>>108864949ai will lead to the death of aiit's unprofitable to run and is a scam at best
>>108865170>"you will own nothing and you will be happy">umm i don't like the sound of that>"try being less envious bro, thats marxist resentment"
>>108865526>Luxury gay space communism is a pipe dreamThere exist more than capitalism ad communism>Life is a zero sum gameModern economics disagrees with you. The greater the demand for something, the greater the incentive to increase its supply>Anyone trying to sell you a society of harmonious coexistence with plenty for everyone and no competition has already placed himself as the supreme overlord of that societyTrue
>>108865728Modern economics is too short sighted and designed to study 1900s capitalism. Money is just a means not an end. We are constantly pushing the boundary of our available resources, economics works fine under conditions of unrestrained growth and resource abundance but collapses under conditions of true scarcityOnce you CAN'T increase supply anymore, it all spirals out of control. We are already seeing it in action with computer hardware. Making a fab capable of producing hardware that fits modern requirements is a multibillion dollar proposition, and the people qualified to staff it are very few worldwide, and the research is all propertiary and closely guarded. Economics works fine for bakeries and car dealerships, it collapses when applied to high tech and oil.
>>108865683let robots expand food productionlet robots deliver foodlet robots robots cooklet robots build out powerlineslet robots become the logistics of the country
>>108864970>You can already generate any art, music, writing, math, code, video, for almost penniesRetard
>>108865781I'm not paying trannies
>>108864999Stop asking (((questions)))
I hope capitalism dies off with the kikes and their boomer golems
No. AIs will continue to play the capitalism game on their own. Humans will be killed off because they won't be able to provide anything to the system anymore.
>>108864970you are right btw. notice how most of these anti-ai people aren’t posting their arguments at all
>>108864999Your assumption is wrong. It’s that simple.
They should be scared.
>>108865044Based Gary>>108864970Unbased Prajinder
>>108865031>Say something mean to Mr. CEO? Looks like you no longer can have your robot make you food!Literally the definition of a (You) problem. If (I) had free food and shelter without having to lift a finger I would never say anything bad about anyone ever again.
>>108864999Post scarcity doesn't mean having jeets destroy everything under the guise of doing work.
>>108864949With AI+robots top 1% rich won't need poors anymore. Not as labor and not as consumers to buy their products. So my guess is rich will just try to kill all the poors since they have no use for them anymore.
>>108864999We'd require 6bn less humans for that, at least