Give it to me straight /g/. Who is this really for? I am not a dissident, not a reporter, I am not part of a cartel or some shit.So Google knows I looked up lawnmowers, or I opened my bank app... does it really matter in the grand scheme?Is Google reading my messages? Reading my emails? Scanning my files? >inb4 Shalom!I have Pixel and trying to figure out whether I should install this or not. What are the real benefits? What would I be giving up?
>>108869580>Who is this really for?Schizos.
>>108869580>I am not a dissident, not a reporter, I am not part of a cartel or some shit.are you someone with dignity and self respect?
>>108869604no, I have sex
If you download an app that doesn’t require internet for its base functionality but has ads (ex: a game), you can restrict network access to the app so you don’t get ads.
>>108869580Just much more control and security. + You don't have to miss out on your Apps, just install Googleplay Store and Services in your private space and just unlock it whenever you need it.You don't even need to install it in a private space or separate profile, if you don't care about privacy, you can just install it in your main profile and benefit from graphene anyway.I'll definitely get a Motorola with the Snapdragon soon, I'll create a 2nd profile for GameNative and "risky games".
>>108869580It's for regular users. It has been great for the last seven years now. No one should know about any of your activities, including your shopping habits.>>108869655I've been using web apps through Vanadium for years rather than installing an app store on the dedicated device. I'll keep a second phone for app stores, etc. It'll be needed anyway when they start trying to squeeze us with restrictions on the internet.
>>108869580you don't have to be a person of interest, they will sell your data no matter who you are graphene at least puts some barriers up for this, even if the hardware itself is already backdoored
>>108869580>What would I be giving up?I havent, well so far in last 5 years. Just recently, used aurora store for shure mic app and apple music.>>108869683>much more controlI just cared about this. Hate having google apps and when overswiping to the left on home screen be prompted with google news that suggested stuff from my convos.
>>108869580it matters however graphaggotry is not free from jewgle so its not really secure.
>>108869580With that logic does anything matter in the grand scheme? is your life going to accomplish something? are you going to be remember by someone? what are the real benefits why not just give up?
>>108869819>I just cared about this.Exactly, but sometimes I have FOMO. Before I got a pixel, I heavily used Google Voice and Voice AI Search + Commands.Now I feel disgusted, when I think about a phone listening all the time, but I still have FOMO.
I think its funny seeing all the discarded MAC addresses for Graphene within my router
>>108870119bro
The battery lasts longerThe ui is snappierThe security is unbroken, I feel confident saving passwordsIt's a real simple phone
Freedom. You don't need to be Google's bitch you know.
>>108869580It's pretty nice. Some of the default applications are a bit jank, but because all the default applications are monochrome it's almost like it's inviting you to replace them. You can either download the Google Playstore and have a Android phone that doesn't share all of your data with literally every app, while still having all of your normal apps, or you can download Aurora and Fdroid and have a pretty good no Google experience. I keep a few Google apps in the locked private mode, since its treated as a different account more-or-less. You might need to mess with the settings a bit to get it working just how you want, but Android Auto works and most other things work in my experience. To me, it just seems like an upgrade. Also, I used to have an issue where I would talk about something IRL and I would see ads that were uncannily related, and this would consistently happen to the point where my wife got annoyed by it. Since switching to Graphene that stopped, so I really do think Android is constantly selling your data and recording your conversations, more so than even Apple products.
>>108869614Gay sex is not sex, you disgusting faggot.
>>108869580Who is free speech really for? I have nothing to say.
>>108869580Google services have full root access to your phone all the time. This doesn't just mean storage access, but all running processes, sensors, location, microphone, camera, modem etc. It knows you and tracks you better than you do yourself. You probably have no clue how invasive it is.With GrapheneOS these services aren't preinstalled, and even when they are installed, they are sandboxed and can be given permissions like any other app. If you don't give it access to something, it doesn't have it.GrapheneOS also hardens the OS immensely and uses a lot of hardware security features to make the device as secure and private as possible.The best part is: you barely have to give up anything. Most people can get everything they use working. The only real hurdle is google pay and about a dozen apps that require strong play integrity (which requires a GMS certified device). Google pay is easily replaceable in Europe with curve pay or PayPal. And in most cases people don't use apps that require strong play integrity.Just give it a go. You could just install all the google stuff you are already used to, but it's also a good opportunity to give more privacy friendly apps a try. You can still give google a lot of data with GrapheneOS if you give the permissions for it.
>>108869580I feel okay about opening an ssh connection to my pc with this because I have greater control over apps and permissions. That open connection lets me tinker with my pc toys from my phone. You absolutely dont need this if you just want to make calls
>>108871020>Google services have full root access to your phone all the time. This doesn't just mean storage access, but all running processes, sensors, location, microphone, camera, modem etc. It knows you and tracks you better than you do yourself. You probably have no clue how invasive it is.It doesn't if you don't have a google account added on the phone in the first place.How could they? Do you think every carrier in the world has a contract with google?Also your phone should only be connected to the internet when you actually use it.I keep my phone disconnected from the internet most of the time.So how could google connect to such a phone? Do they control the carrier to be able to track down an IMEI live? That's not legal even for the carrier, they need a warrant.It's just nonsense.
>>108871042Google tracks your location, sensors, WiFi/Bluetooth environment etc all the time. It doesn't matter if you disconnect it from the internet. As soon as it is connected again it sends all this data to them. Even if you had WiFi/GPS etc all disabled. Google knows exactly where you live, where you work and your schedule, just based on your movement. (It also records how you travel). This is not including all the data the apps you have installed share with it. They can just talk to each other without letting you know.You are incredibly naive if you think you can use a stock android phone privately in any way. There have been done countless of studies and videos on this that show what it records and sends to google when connected to the internet. Even with all tracking "disabled".
>>108869580Iranians desperately trying to overthrow the terrorist regime.If the USA turns into a terrorist state one day, then the people need defenses against this.
>>108869580I use it on my Pixel 10a. I use it because it doesn't come with added bloat or spyware. It's a really clean and nice operating system.
>>108869614>He posted, on the technology board of an anime website discussing a privacy centric operating system
>>108869580The operating system doesn't play such a big role if you end up using the corporate platforms. If you continue to use TikTok, X, YouTube, etc. on Graphene OS, a psychological profile is still created and you are manipulated within the platform. No alternative OS, no alternative browser, no sandboxing protects you from that. In the end, most Graphene OS users are just LARPers looking for recognition from the "privacy community" on Reddit, X, or Mastodon. It is primarily about tribalism; it is no coincidence that Graphene OS users are so cult-like and make the use of a particular OS part of their identity.
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>>108870119SEX
I just refuse to make a Google or Apple account but at the same time a Android or iPhone are mandatory in my country for banking and government services. So this is the best solution. At least until Play Integrity gets forced.
>>108871532frog website
>>108869580People who care about security
>>108869580Who is stock android for? Rhetorical question. It's for tech illterate boomers who are shocked to hear their phone has a gps.>What would I be giving up?All apps that check whether your os is signed. Top offenders are financial apps (just use the website) and google wallet.In return, you get complete control over every app on your phone along with the ability to sandbox the shit out of google's proprietary jeetware (which runs as root otherwise).
>>108871764>>108871592Point proven. Thanks.
People who think the Pixel is a usable phone (they're wrong)
>>108871073Impossible, that's illegal and if some researcher demonstrated it in a lab, they'd bleed billions in lawsuits.You think nobody tried to prove this?They had incidents in the past with alexa 'mistakenly' recording conversations and they had to backpedal hard and ask for consent.You're suggesting that all those dialogs where they ask for consent for sharing data don't do anything and the EU and all other entities are being fooled. Nobody bothered to check in a lab with equipment if data goes to certain domains. It's trivial to do that, like you do with Wireshark.
>>108871073>There have been done countless of studies and videos on this that show what it records and sends to google when connected to the internet. Even with all tracking "disabled".That can only happen if you have Google search bar, google alexa, google services active etc.If the processes are blocked or disabled, they can't do anything
>>108872086>they'd bleed billions in lawsuits.operating costs>check in a lab with equipment if data goes to certain domains.>hey google, whats this encrypted data being sent to your servers>oh thats just anonymous telemetry>ok coolnice research bro
>>108871764Peepee frogs are Twitch.tv (formerly Justin.tv) culture. Not 4channel
>>108872124It IS ours and always will be, and no amount of LGTVdoomcheatcode fag streamers will ever change that.
>>108872124bitch.tv tried to ruin it but they failed>>108872133this
>>108872086https://cybernews.com/security/google-pixel-9-phone-beams-data-and-awaits-commands/https://apnews.com/article/828aefab64d4411bac257a07c1af0ecbhttps://qz.com/1131515/google-collects-android-users-locations-even-when-location-services-are-disabledhttps://theconversation.com/your-mobile-phone-can-give-away-your-location-even-if-you-tell-it-not-to-65443https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2025/03/android-devices-track-you-before-you-even-sign-inhttps://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/cookies_identifiers_and_other_data.pdfUse GrapheneOS. Be careful with giving permissions, including sensors.
>>108871969https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/>mfw every relevant bank is supported in my country
Security and privacy minded individuals is just another market segment to sell shit to that matches their requirements. Nothing else to say about it really. If big gov wants to investigate you, you can't hide, if that's your question. They can just lock you in a dungeon and use back doors to plant incriminating fake evidence and you will be a soon forgotten poorly written article in a news paper the end
>>108869580When you go to take a shit, do you lock the door? Why, you are not even doing anything weird there? Can't you just go to a public place full of people and just shit on the street? Why not? Oh, because there is laws, consequences, some things you want to keep private and have right to keep private. You fucking retard cuck.
>>108869580jewish botnet
>>108869580It's exclusively for midwits who think they understand IT security (they don't).Phones are by default, on hardware level, backdoored snitchboxes. The idea that you buy a phone from fucking GOOGLE, install some magical OS on it and it suddenly becomes le ebin secure hackerphone because the bootloader is now locked, is absolutely comical.
>>108872977Highly original post
>>108869614he answered honestly that he doesn't have dignity and self respect, two characteristics integral to jestering and 2 anons flip a tit anyway
>>108872124boy im crine
>>108871969>just use the websiteThat might have still worked 3 years ago. Today, all the web versions on the phone are completely buggy and broken, and you are pressured to use the app. And no, I will not switch my bank because of this, only to have the same problem again in a year.You have to call it as it is: the future of mainstream/corporate internet on the phone lies in apps, and only in apps. At the latest in two years, the web versions will be completely shut down.
>So Google knows I looked up lawnmowers, or I opened my bank app... does it really matter in the grand scheme?Fucking lol I wish it was that simpleThey got en entire profile on you, they know exactly what you do, when you do it, why you do it, all your habits, all your vices, all your secrets, they know everything by cross referencing multiple data collection points and tying them to your profile.We're way past the point of simple telemetry that shit was in 2004
>>108873281Nobody has ever experienced what you have outlined because it's simply not true.
>>108873289What if you are a perfect man, would that trigger investigation
>>108873796Ironically yes
>>108869580Epstein openly talked about fucking lolitas, insider trading and meddling operations abroad for decades without hiding shit. Do you think he gave a shit about feeding the corpokikes all sorts of telemetry? Of course not because he ran the blackmailed ops and telemetry gathering himself. So unless you're a glownigger, you shouldn't be pro spyware practices.
>>108869580Some people just really hate Google and Apple but still want a smartphone.
>>108873934>Some people hate Google, so they directly increase Google's profit margins.Yeah, that makes sense.
