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FYI someone could compile the main parts of game code onto a processor.Like you know how a lot of people just play skyrim, nearly?Well you could make a processor that is like a gpu that just does skyrim, where skyrim is baked in.And, it would be cheaper than a 5060, but faster than a 5090, at the game. But just that game.This basic idea is surprising to a lot of people who totally didn't know that.
Think about all the people who just play Madden on the xbox. They could have been playing it at better settings, for less money.
>>108906680>play Maddenwhy would i play that?
>>108906694Because it's the only game the machine can play, and you got it for Christmas.
>>108906680I know a guy like that at work, he only plays it when football season is over. Height be stupid and in debt but he's generally happy and has a gf.
>>108906680>less moneythe series s is like 300 dollars nigga
>>108906680>>108906694>>108906717Console redpillSega>Saturn had Hitachi SH-2 shit that hitachi gave to sega for extremely cheap because they couldn't find anyone else to buy it>Dreamcast had Hitachi SH-4 and only console ever created that supports automatic order independent alpha blending.>Plans to download Dreamcast games directly to the HDD, a feature that Xbox 360 realizedSony>PS2 had Kutaragi's Emotion Engine. PS3 had Kutaragi's CELL>PS2 Emotion Engine and PS3 CELL were nightmares for programmers>The original plan was for the PS3 not to have a traditional GPU. They were going to use the Cell for everything>Sony has lost more than $3 billion on the PS3, console was a failure>Mark Cerny is hired for PS4>Mark Cerny wanted PS4, PS5, PS6 and PS7 to be AMD APUs because it was cheapest and easiest for programmers. any optimizations done for PS4 will just help PC get further ahead>Unlike PC configurations, PS4, PS5 and PS6 uses fixed/standard hardware that the game can be specifically optimized forNintendo>Nintendo's strategy has always been use quality software to sell consoles>Gamecube graphics chip was made by ArtX, comprised of former SGI employees who worked on N64. ATI bought them shortly before the release of the Gamecube, hence the ATI branding>The Switch uses an X1 Tegra, a 2015 tablet processorXbox>original XBOX has an x86 Intel Pentium III processor means PC porting is dead simple>Xbox was a huge financial risk for microsoft. Those PC components cost a fortune compared to the cheap RISC hardware of PS2 and GC. They lost $125 for each console unit sold. Using a hard drive as a game data cache was also something never done before back in the day. There was a ton of creativity involved in the making of the xbox.>Power Mac G5 was the base for the Xbox 360 architecture >Xbone One ran on an x86_64 AMD CPU>Xbox Series X runs on an x86_64 AMD CPUTLDR>Retro consoles had custom hardware>Modern Consoles are just budget AMD PCs
>>108906736don't matter. old consoles had GAMES that people wanted to PLAY. that is the ISSUE with new GAMES and CONSOLES.
what is the best 8TB HDD for hoarding torrented movies/tv shows and also small images etc.? is the WD Blue WD80EAAZ the best option?Wouldn't mind seeding whatever I got since I have a 1gbps connection as well, but im not sure if that's a good idea with a "cheap" drive like that
>>108906742Yep. I'd buy a Skyrimbox custom silicon that just ran Skyrim.
>>108906751Avoid seagate, buy wd or toshiba model doesnt matter. Ideally get another 8tb one to backup the same files.
>>108906751There's no best option. I have a Seagate, and I put stuff on there that I could get again, if I lost it. I mean I also can backup to it, obviously, but that's not the main copy.
>>108906752you could also just the take the CD and give it to a FRIEND. you could buy GAMES for 20 bux and PLAY them. just plug in the console and PLAY the fucking GAME. new consoles are just steam in big picture mode. they need internet. they have achivements, friends, chats and all that other noise. like my dad wanted to buy a ps5 to play some tekken and it was a really shit expierence setting this thing up and just playing the fucking game. on the ps2 it was just press play and go.
>>108906765>FRIENDuse case for friend?
>>108906775share games with that your mum won't buy you
>>108906783use case for poor?
>>108906796mum won't buy gta so i have a friend to ask to play it. he can have need for speed for it in the mean time.
>>108906752>>108906765>you could also just the take the CD and give it to a FRIEND. you could buy GAMES for 20 bux and PLAY them. just plug in the console and PLAY the fucking GAME. new consoles are just steam in big picture mode. they need internet. they have achivements, friends, chats and all that other noise. like my dad wanted to buy a ps5 to play some tekken and it was a really shit expierence setting this thing up and just playing the fucking game. on the ps2 it was just press play and go.OG Xbox and Xbox 360 were 100% Offline consolesThat stopped with Xbox One
I haven't been here for a while. Are Intel processors back on the menu?
>>108906802use case for stupid women?
>>108906626https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PukzM0upYSwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PukzM0upYSwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PukzM0upYSw
>>108906856she buy the console and the tv to play games on so i don't bother her
>>108906865What if I marry her and pawn your xbox?
>>108906899she doesn't date nig nogs
>>108906902I'm not that into dating, we can apply for the marriage license basically right now.
>>108906807>uncedWhat did they meme by this
Weird how dead /b/ now is.
>>108906626I CANT TAKE THIS SHIT ANYMORE I WANT RAM PRICES TO COME BACK TO REALITY THIS SHIT IS RETARDED I DONT WANT TO BE A GOY CATTLE FUCK SLAVE I WANT OUT GET ME OUT AAAAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE E=MC^2+AI+CLAUDE THIS SHIT NEEDS TO STOP WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF THIS IS RETARDED CAN ANTHROPIC IPO RUGPULL ALREADY SO THIS SHIT CAN BE OVER FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>108906956gemma 4 31B, and 27B, are really good, even at Q8.
Why is it so difficult for Chinese people to design a mouse without any LED light inside it?Are they all so braindead and desperate to have their eyes destroyed by LEDs?
>>108906980Pretty much as difficult for western makers. As you know, ARGB adds 10 fps to any game
>>108906962>even at Q8Not even a 5090 can fit Q8 31b Gemmy in its VRAM
>that one anon waiting more than a year for battlemage to dropwe were so naive back then
>>108906980Just remove the led it's not hard
>>108906980my china mouse doesn't have lgbt lights. skill issue.
>>108906856Gives you more excuses to smack her into line
Any wired 5 button mouse cheaper than this?https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005012216057688.htmlRetarded chinks have some sort of tax on mouse that don't have LED.If you want cheap mouse, you have to suffer from LED that destroys your eyes.
>>108906680I figured people in this thread were building PCs with the goal to play Madden at 240fps. I knew it all along.
>>108907096>If you want cheap mouse, you have to suffer from LED that destroys your eyes.>LED that destroys your eyes.so... what type of monitor do you use?
>>108907112You don't know what you are talking about. There is a difference between diffused light and sharp LEDs that tears their way into your eyes.
>>108906626TJ08-E? I had that case.
What are the best SSDs?>SATA SSDCrucialSamsung 870>Gen3Samsung 980WD Blue SN5000>Gen4Samsung 990 ProTeamgroup MP44 SSDWD Blue SN5100WD_BLACK SN850X>Gen5Corsair MP700 Pro XTCrucial T500Samsung 9100WD_BLACK SN8100
>>108907161Samsung 870 sata/970 plus/980 pro/990 pro/9100 proWD SN7100/850XAnything else is ewaste
>>108906931All those mossad offices got hit, the internets jewish toilet broke
>>108906991This is next level compared to the west.The Chink DNA has always been obsessed with shiny bling bling ever since they invented fireworks.Most of them actually don't understand focused laser light is destructive.They recently had a party in Hong Kong where half the guest became blind.Maybe in 20 years whem millions of them become blind, they might catch up with the science and learn all of their bling bling ooga booga lights are dangerous.But until then you're going to have to manually inspect every LED device you have.>oops is where a crack the LED is shining directly through?>No refunds gweilo
>>108907207Dumb circumcised mulatto huffs its fumes in the homo cuck bunker while seething about superior asians
>>108907215>huffs its fumesI'm actually providing you valuable scientific data. You should copy this data instead of seethe.
>>108907207Weren't those UV lights, though?
>>108907225It's the same principle with all focused light.
>>108907224Homoshlomo takes another whiff as it lets out a stream of colon cancer tainted diarrhea
>>108907241I guess you can just enjoy going blind then. You can't be saved.
>>108906626Hell yeah, my build made it to the OP. Love how it turned out, going to have to break it down to out in new SSDs but I'm kinda waiting for the prices to come down before I do that.
>>108907253looks like an lian li case but i am not sure
>>108907250Homoshlomo fears the light as it scurries down a sewer opening
>>108906626what cpu and mobo do i get if i want to re-use my 32gb ddr4
>>108907294forgot, my cpu is a i7 7700k
>>108907294>what cpu14600k or 14700k
>>1089072946700k and put windows 7 on that thing
>>108907253>Fewer than 10000 cuda coresYour build didn't deserve to be there, feel grateful!
>>108907304But the 4080 Super has 10,240 CUDA cores
Whenever I see a crowded small form factor case it feels a bit silly with how un-designed the system is compared to a console, laptop, smartphone etc.The cooler is massively incorrect sizeGpu and cpu should be next to each other, the energy delivery system should be sharedPSU's is the most size uneconomic thing ever and always overpowered for the systems watt needs.the airflow is retarded because its not actually designed arund it, compare to series X with 1 fan blowing through everything.
>>108907333gabe cube only has one fan. maybe someone is going to make a better system like with the steam deck.
I feel the lancool 217 is severely underrated due to the wood making it look ugly and the lancool 207 being great bang for buck. For me it's currently the best case with big fans only beaten by the historically great torrent and it's predecessor the lancool 216.
>>108907340GAYbe cube will literally have a shitty 9050xt
>>108907361yeah and someone is going to make a big cube that has a better gpu and cpu and put steam os on it. easy sales.
I'm looking into buying a second monitor, specifically, a MiniLED IPS, and most likely I'll be buying this one:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FKNFHZH9?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&language=en_USI bought this one last year:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C4Z8RFY9?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1&language=en_USMy question for those with better experience on displays than me: Is it worth the extra cost? The one I have is really good, I have pretty much no complaints at all with it, but considering that I use my PC mainly for gaming, it makes me wonder how much of a difference it will make jumping into a MiniLED.
>>108907364Asus and the other copycats will just wait for AMD to drop the xbox/ps6 soc and sell it in their new ally rog Box/handheld.
>>10890729414600k or 14700k, if you're already on AM4 and you're just gaming, wait because the 5800X3D is being relaunched.
this might be the wrong place to ask but the only other I saw was the cheap chink shit one and I don't really want cheap chink shit t b hlong story aside my mother has become mostly bedridden and lays watching free video shit on her phoneI got a decent adjustable wall mount and am replacing my monitor/tv to give her my current oneI was going to get her a streaming subscription to a completely legal streaming site that has everything from everywhere so she could watch whatever she wanted wheneverwhat I need is a minipc I can strap to the wall mount arm to do this, but everything I see in the price range I'm looking at is this overpowered high spec stuff that's barebones and requires assembly; I just need something that has wifi, can run hd video though hdmi and browsing if she wants to do that, she doesn't really play vidya or anythingUS and I need it to be like under $300thanks to whoever answers if anyone
>>108907257that's a silverstone temjin tj08
>>108907418It's a bad time to look for a cheap mini PC because of ram pricesMaybe try looking for an old Intel NUC with soldered memory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyQwAhppWj8Surpirsed Jensen Huang didnt get Assassination attempt yet
>>108907429thanks, hopefully I can luck out and find an unused one somewhere, was hoping to avoid used
>>108907441youtube videos are entertainment only
>>108907418https://www.ebay.com/itm/227296401296you'll need a wifi card
>>108907449jesus I haven't seen a ps/2 port in ages
>>108907465I'm using one right now.
>>108907007https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/day%20battlemage/image/stRzt8wmiCuIquPA-NYvTg/
>>108907465It's the lowest latency way to connect kbm to a computer, with the downside that it's not a hotplug
>>108907007The worst thing about BM is that high-end battlemage came to the market over 12 months after the b580 and they didn't even release a b770 consumer version of it
>>108906807>>108906765>>108906742gud posts
>>108907449thanks but it doesn't need to be that cheap, and it's also a bit too big, seeing a bunch of refurbished >>108907429 that will do itappreciate the help
>>108907505Because there's nothing high-end about the B770, it's slower than a 5060 Ti.Massive waste of TSMC wafer.
>>108907512I suggested it because the i7 4770 is still a beast and is recent enough to not have any compatibility issues.
>>108907554it wasn't a bad suggestion at all it's just she's one of those dog moms with undisciplined dogs, and if I don't strap it to the monitor mount arm with some zip ties and corral the wires well, affix them to the wall and shit, they'll chew on themit looks a bit too big/too heavy to do that well
>>1089075544790 is a great cpu too
>>108907567https://www.ebay.com/itm/257516528065
>>108907583>does not include power adapterbig oof
>>108907591It's $12
>>108907583this one looks good, thanks>>108907591shouldn't be that hard to track one down
So lets say I RMA my 7800X3D that just failed and sell it, a motherboard, and a 7900 GRE. How much do you think I could get for them?
>>108907716About three fiddy
>>108906626bought a new case today. Lian Li O11 DYNAMIC MINI V2 Flow
>>108907855Nothing mini about that case, but I'm happy for you.
>>108907855LianLi always makes good shit, I'm looking forward to see what they'll have for computex.
>>108907855this case and the corsair 2500d air are the best ones on the market right now, I really think I'll move to matx next build with out much cases like that focused on airflow, if only they were to add mesh side panels and a horizontal spec
>>108907855and you need one of those gpu anti sag bracket or whatever for that gpu, 100%
>>108906980>Are they all so braindead and desperate to have their eyes destroyed by LEDs?they have a natural defense
>>108906980>be zoomie>can't even master spray paint
apart from a fourth ssd, can this build be any more retarded?https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/goldencircle/saved/4pNH8d
>>108907999rtx 6000 blackwell would make it more retarded
>>108908043yes absolutely
>>108908043yes
>>108908043If you are on Windows possibly, if you're a linux user then there really isn't much reason to get a Nvidia GPU.
>>108908043yes but both of those pcs are outragerously overpriced
I'm staying on my tuned 13900K until we hit glass substrates.Fuck all I do on this thing is shitposting and emulation of old conslows.
>>108907377The problem with miniled is that local dimming doesn’t work really well in edge cases where there’s a bunch if small bright objects in a dark area. The blooming will become obvious instantly. For most other content though, blooming is typically only visible if your viewing angle is really off (that means even if you look straight at the monitor the blooming will become obvious instantly more visible around the edge). For IPS Local dimming itself also kind of destroys colors for small objects. Check the 8:40 of this video, it’s also the one Im usinghttps://youtube.com/watch?v=DPL6jz0fLgg
>>108908146> blooming will become obvious instantly more visibleFuck i mean more noticeable
>>108906856onahole and dishwasher
>>108906931non-blue boards are useless garbage binsIf the niggerAdmin would care at all about this shithole, he'd delete those boards.
>>108906980the lower the IQ, the more rgb-leds they own
>>108906980I think every single Chinese wireless lightweight mouse I know doesn't have RGB LED lighting for performance reason. Are you only looking for budget options?
There's not much else left to explore with cases. I want to see someone try a tubular case design (still rectangular mounts) that has two giant fans at the front and rear spanning the entire diameter. I/Os will need to be diverted through the side. Front ports can just sit on the side of the case while rear motherboard ports will likely stay where they are, instead you have a openable / removable ring of the tube right where the ports are and the wires are pulled in the side before connecting like normal. Maybe have some rubber gaskets to hide it a little. No horizontal mount at all for the GPU, it is vertical only, there's no flat "rear wall" of the case inside the tube.
>>108908205I'm looking for something with 5 buttons and USB wire.Do you have something that is cheaper than this?https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005012216057688.html
>>108908265the URL gives me not found but the mice I was looking for the last time were all close to $100 if not above
My 5 year old HDD costs twice as much new than when I bought it.
gonna get worse because Iran is back to kicking amerikkkan ass
A buddy of mine is selling his PC, how much should I offer him for it? I want it for my kid.Pretty much everything is still under warranty. Drives are barely used (less than 10TBW). No idea what the prices in the list mean (I doubt he paid that little).https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cH2Zw3
>got my new 2x32gb sticks>motherboard not on gskill qvl list>kit not motherboards memory support list>still works expo on p95 memory torture now running half an hour
>>108908731QVL is literally just a list of what the company has bothered to test. It's a meme.
>>108908792Oh, you're the fucking judge of RAM are you?
>>108908792stands to reason if a motherboard manufacturer went out of their way to test and upload a list of accepted ram sticks, and definitely tested way more than the list, then you should follow it.you don't have to but its literally there for a reason
>>108908792I guess it's just a new one so they haven't tested it yet.
>like footrests>now I have an adjustable stool that is meant to be for old people to use in the shower >and a towel on top>it's shit and very quickly becomes uncomfortable >come across this noblechairs rest>looks like a good upgradeDo you know about footrests? What do you use?
>>108908824i use a keyboard bench i had lying around from when i tried and utterly failed to teach myself piano
>>108908731how do you manage to make a png to look this blurry, you fucking retard
>>108908850Thank you. It worth a try for $35 instead of the £150 noblechairs one for now.
>>108908875Many applications just look blurry when I have them open on my non-main monitor.
Can I have HDDs on their side or do they need to be laying flat?
>>108909129My last PC had a HDD sideways for 8 years without issues. I've only had one HDD dying on me and that was caused by frequent blue screens thanks to some shitty sat card driver looooong ago. I guess it head crashed too many times eventually.
>huawei will produce 1.4nm chips in 5 years1.4nm confirmed as a roadblock everyone will get stuck in, I'm not upgrading until 1.4nm chips then, should be zen 7 and hammer lake generations
>>108909427i'll believe it when I see itstandard zen5 was supposed to be on 3nm too but amd downgraded it to 4nm due to cost
>>108909427"Will" "Would" "Wants"Not reality
>>108909427It seems like china achieves like 20% of the stated goal.I mean, that's better than cuba communism.
>>108909439they put out a lot of good stuff while being sanctioned by amerikkka in all fronts, they are very capable I wouldn't bet against them
>>108909458Huawei doesn't matter outside of China and this is an American/European board.
>>108909458They don't. china has always as a race overcharged for everything.The same way the race of korea overcharges for ram today.the race of japanese are overcharging for cameras. they stole the technology of making cameras from Kodak (yes, really).
the question is, did china even steal a technology successfully.no. they are trying to steal llm, though.
>>108909497kodak made analog cameras, sony/fujifilm made digital cameras>>108909497>>108909504huawei made foldable phones before korea and they make the AI gpus that chinese AI companies use after nvidia was banned from selling ai gpus in there
>>108909519>chinese AI companies use after nvidia was banned from selling ai gpus in therehowling
>>108909519>SiPix Imaging, Inc. was founded in 1999 in Fremont, California. the asian races stole these things.And now the alien races, having not satisfied themselves to only worship alien gods on our land and steal the jobs seek to steal all the land as well.Don't they have the land God gave them, to be there abominable?
Goated non-curved 27'' ips under 300$?
>>108909547our technology was promised to them 3000 years ago
What the fuck happened.Sapphire RX 9070 XT price on amazon japan just shot up by almost $400 today.Should I fomo into the asus one or is it going to come back down tomorrow?Asus steel legend rx 9070 xt is about $70 more than what sapphire was yesterday.
>>108909575sapphire nitro+ is trash because of the 12vhpwr connector anyway
interesting to notice that 5070ti using dlss 4.5 quality gains +10% fps and 9070xt gets +48% fps using fsr 4.1 quality, it's much easier to run it seems
>>108909583I'm talking about sapphire pulse which takes 2x8pin
>>108909575I have the steel legend, it's a good and compact card <330mm length.the best performance 9070xts are made by xfx and the mercury OC is the best model.
>>108909597wtf. i guess they're pricing in the cost of shipping into new stock now
>>1089095688gb cards not completely gimped? whats going on here
>>108909611it's a stupid console game pretending to be a pc game, the difference between low and ultra settings is literally just shadowshttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/007-first-light-performance-benchmark/4.html
>>108909575fuck I'm blind.it's actually asrock steel legend.>>108909601I guess I'll just order this tonight and plan the rest of the build later
>>108909627order this instead
>>108909597each new version of dlss gets more bloated while each new version of fsr gets lighter
>>108909646>>108909585
>>108906626Haven't been in here since my build last year, when did you guys update the OP recs? I was pushing this stuff a year ago.>Lancool 207>9800X3D>Liquid Freezer 3>SN850X>9070XTOnly thing we're still not on the same page with is the monitor but I don't expect non-videophiles to shill out over a thousand bucks for a QDOLED.
>>108909637Can these niggas start doing mobos?
>>108909519>kodak made analog cameras, sony/fujifilm made digital camerasfalse.Kodak innovated in digital photograph. There were other AMERICAN companies that invented sensor tech.
>>108909809>Fairchild Semiconductor International, Inc. was an American semiconductor company based in San Jose, California.
>>108909809>Kodak innovated in digital photographWhat I mean is Kodak invented the "camera" - taking digital photos with (then) a dslr.
Are mobo/m2 screws identical across manufacturers? I have a secondhand asus board with missing bottom m2. Can I just buy any aftermarket m2 screw and it will fit?
I was swapping ssds and I dropped the little m2 screw and while I was picking it up it bumped into some exposed electronic bits on the motherboard (idk what theyre called) and there was a little zapping sound like a mosquito hitting a mosquito zapper and now my pc crashes every now and thenits fucking over
>>108907515I tried a B70 32GB for a few days. Too many little bullshitty things you had to do to even get the kernel to see it, and then limited OS support for prebuilt packages, and then there were bugs with llama.cpp and vllm. I sent it back. 32GB isn't really enough to run what I want, and I wasn't going to buy a second B70.Intel has given up. They're just going to make piddling iGPU shit, all the dGPU stuff is getting flushed down the streetshitter.
>>108909981a screw is a screw. they are defined by length, diameter, thread direction and number of threadsif someone says a screw is for an m2 device and they arent lying then it will fit. they all probably come from the same 3 chinese factories
>>108910001your boot drive?
>>108910056nah it rolled over the bits circled in green.The one time I don't unplug my shit or turn off the psu in 10 years because replacing a drive is elementary and I nudge a screw into something that doesn't like that
>>108910077you can sometimes find out what parts are on leaked info sheets.
>ps5 runs on amd so every shitty console ported game runs better on a 9070xt than an nvidia cardamd are such fucking snakes
It looks like the computer equipments companies are dying off because we are pausing our purchases.This is really bad for us as a whole.I was planning on waiting until RAM prices got better again before buying CPU and Motherboard.But on the other hand the industry will die off if we all do this.And it's overall best if I buy motherboard and CPU first while waiting for the RAM.Just 2 problems:1. I won't be able to diagnostics the parts and will lose my consumer rights to return the motherboard if it turns out it is defective 1 year down the line when I finally get the RAM and can turn on the system.2. I'm afriad if I buy a board that uses non-ECC, but in 1 year it turns out it's all the ECC ram that has the best value, then I'm still screwed.Or the other way around with ECC and non-ECC.
>>108910152>And it's overall best if I buyof course not.It's overall best to be happy and satisfied, because who knows what tomorrow may bring?And, anyway, don't you know you were built with a purpose?
>>108910152Nigga it's just a scare made to push you to buy. they have gorillions of enterprise buyers, even before AI was a thing.
It's >>108906475Found another listing that's very similar to the previous one, but better I think.AMD Ryzen 5 5600G32GB DDR4SSD 500GBUnknown Asus TUF MBCorsair RM1000x PSUno gpu>$342Should I get this one? My understanding is that the CPU is basically same as 5500 but I get 16GB more ram and a better PSU.Doesn't come with a gpu to resell but the silver lining is that I don't have to bother with the ewaste.
>>108910203thats a $200 psu, you can just flip this
>>1089066265070 or 9070XT?I have a 3070 and use dlss to run stuff nowadays, also emulate
>>108908146>>108908156Thank you. So do you think it's better to stick with regular IPS for now?
>>1089102225070ti or 9070xt
>>108910234Personally, I'd get the 5070ti, but as with everything, the price can always be right
>>108910234>>1089102435070 and 9070xt are almost the same price, 5070to is like 30-40% more expensive
>>108910212I'm gonna need the psu to run my 9070xt tho
>>108907493That's not true anymore. PS2 ports on modern PCs just use a PS2 to USB chip, no different then using a external adapter
>>108910368What makes a bigger difference now is plugging your kbm directly to your CPU lanes instead of your Chipset lanes and then telling your OS to process those interrupts on different threads instead of choking core0
>>108910429That's not true at all, why are you making things up?
>>108910449The USB ports on your motherboard either use chipset lanes or CPU lanes. Read your manual next time stupid cunt.
>>108910449Retard Alert.
>>108910456>>108910463https://youtu.be/nbu3ySrRNVc?si=b7ZCSeIYwbZtefMuYou guys are either retarded children or Indian adults.
I had been using 8bit all this time, should I switch to 10bit? I can't rly tell the difference on first glance.Any downsides?
>>108910001And that's why you invest in magnetic drivers.
>>108910001always turn off the PSU switch when messing in the computer and pull the power cord too
>>108910525magnetic screwdrivers are often far too weak to maintain the magnetism, and are often on the cheaper-side of tools. Also you can magnetise screwdrivers with a magnet tool you can buy from hardware stores, although the one i have only gives a fairly weak charge.
>>108910560>cheaper side of toolsI installed my 5070 ti with a $5 walmart screwdriver I bought over 15 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN3MotFDUmQ
>>108910540If the power cord has an earth wire, leave it connected.
>>108910512yes. On things that support it or videos encoded in 10bit, you will notice far less banding in gradients
Is this overpriced?>1500 CAD>Ryzen 5800X>Asus Rog Strix B550 >64GB G Skill DDR4 3600>2x 1tb SSD (m.2 - unclassified)>GTX 3070>Corsair 4000x as case>Corsair H115i as AIO Cooler>850WMy friend saw this and normally I'd say meh but desu Ram/SSD prices are inflated as fuck....
>>108910800cpu is alrightgpu is shitram is too muchtwo 1tb nvme ssds aren't really all that much single 2tb would have been bettersell half the ram, gpu and put a 9070 in it or 9070xt
>>108910800>B550Please at least get the b580
>>108910881that is the mobo
>>108910832Tbf... I recommended him a build a while back but thinking about it....this is almost around the same price with slightly better stats like he can legit but the same GPU and hit the same price.https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/8BcNckI mean fuck if he just gets the 5070TI then he's still under buying everything new.
>>108910190all the shitty prebuilt companies do*consoomer companies will either have to branch out to corporate sales or die off
>>108910800yes its overpriced
>64gb kit I bought last summer is 850$>32gb of ddr5 is still 400$>cannot build anything without getting ripped ofFuck I hate sam altman and larry ellison
>>108910908I mean as I said, buying new isn't really any better right now...
RAM IS SO FUCKING BORING AND THEY MAKE YOU PAY OUT THE NOSE FOR IT NOW AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>108910910the way technology progressed there was always a period where training functional llms became economicalbut thanks to elon musk theres more companies doing instead of just google
>>108910033>turn down apple's mobile soc plan, then got into mobile late, failed and killed it>refresh skylake 5 times until apple left them>killed their modem side business>overpromised and underdelivered on optane, then killing it years later>wasted billions on acquiring various AI companies, mobileye and mcafee>got into dgpus 3 times, each time trying to chase the peak of the gpu cycle but failingis it me or does their jewish leadership suck at leading a company. its like they lack imagination or something
That GN video might be the most boring video on youtube ever
>>108910888oh I'm retarded, sorry
>>108910948It's been a consistent pattern throughout their entire history. See also StrongARM and Itanium.
>>108910969If you have something like toms hardware bookmarked I dont really see what you get out of watching gn now
This is my GeForce Now running 4k dlaa path tracing everything maxed.Got even more gpu memory than a 5090? Anyone coming close to these specs? I bet your electricity bill costs more than the sub! Come own nothing and be happy.
>>108911050>my GeForce Now
>>108911050People will shit on it but I tried a day pass playing crimson desert on my steam deck and it worked surprisingly well.Still doubt I'd ever use it though. I'd rather go to consoles now that pc gaming is ded
i can’t afford any of this stuff anymore :(
>>108911102gabecube for 550 soon
alright so real quick let me tell you a story about how gpus get worse now i walked into the best buy store and i remember the exact gpu i wanted it was a argb pny 5080 oc so im like ayy can i get a pny 5080 oc gpu and this dude genuinely says and this is the first time anyone told me this before at an electronics store "uhh yeah sure man i got you but if it fails we cant rma it for you" and i was mindboggled by what he said i was like what is he dude talking about when it dies like after a couple years or some shit so at this point i had no idea what he was talking about because what kind of monkeybrain is gonna try to return their new $1300+ gpu back same week and i was like yeah sure man its fine i mean i dont think its gonna fail and he was like "alright man i got you" so i drive back to my house and open it put it in my pc get a no signal and im like wow this is some fucking trash what did he sell me so i walk back in there and im like yo bro i think yall sold me a fake one and he was like "yeah man you get what you get you cant return it" and it was at that moment i got robbed by nvidia.
>>108911119nah that’s when you escalate
>>108911119bro...
>>108911091I have like 10ms to a server via ethernet, it honestly feels like native. Only games that really stink are racing games like forza for what I’ve tested.
>>108911135>>108911142i already did a chargeback but they only gave me half
>>108911050All that for not even 100fps av. because you wanted shiny surfaces. Ngmi dood. >>108911102Gabecube rec +1, but also you could jerry rig a gaming PC together for like $500 second hand parts. Wont be flashy but at least you can game.
>>108911119Does USA not have 2 years warranty on all electronic devices?
I've been rocking a 1080 GTX (10gb vram varient) since launch. It is a trooper, but god damn I am hungry to replace it. I replaced all my other components before the price explosion. That was lucky, but I decided to wait for either a better AMD card, or the next gen nvidia. Little did I know how fucked things would get. Is it time to wait 5 more years, or meticulously bargain hunt?What would be decent for replacing it?
>>1089111979070 and flash it into a XT
>>108911197Get a 9070xt
>>108911197get the 9070xt while they're still cheapalternatively >>108911203 is also fine if you get one with dual bios
>>108911197
>>108911313he didn't say Ti though
>>108911334no such thing
rdna5 is going to be 3nm, we know 1.4nm roadblock is right around the cornerI hope rdna6 will be 1.4nm but it'll probably be 2nm, anyway I have a 9070xt and I plan to upgrade only to the 1.4nm node, I guess it's 3 gens from now for me, fine
>>108911197Either buy 5070 now, or wait for 60xx which may be delayed until 2028amd features largely suck compared to nvidia so I dont see why youd even consider those
Retard here. How likely is it that HBM ram will be used in consumer computers in the future?
>>108910224Would be great if you can find a cheaper one to be honest. That said if you have some games you want to try in HDR, do go with it. RenoDX also helps a lot with this.
>>108911393like 0 chance since hbm is very wafer inefficient and constantly in shortage
>>108911393its same ram as the gddr7, except stacked on top of each otherits not necessary for the density of ram consumers can afford for their gaming cardslow density modules that arent stacked are cheaper so
>>108911393
>>108910800>>108910892bump. he wanted to do budget 4k high 1440p. not really sure how to go lower on this
>>108911396The KTC M27T6 recommended in the OP is a bit cheaper and also available in my country, but I thought that it would be better to just stick to the same brand since my current IPS monitor is also Acer. I don't really care about HDR, but I might as well go for it since I'm planning on moving to W11 soon now that I'm finally starting to get some incompatibility issues with some programs and hardware.Thank you for the help, I think I will shell out the extra for the MiniLED.
>>108911474That one is a VA so you might want to keep that in mind. The IPS model is M27T6S. See if it's available in your country too.
>>108911523Yes, the one I found is the M27T6S, I just double checked. I might still go with the Acer one, also because of cosmetics, the KTC only comes in white.
>>108911408Gddr7 is like 32bits per chip at 28Gbps while hbm4 is 1024bits per stack at 8Gbps
So, is anyone still building or upgrading in the current year?
this industry is totally deadcomputex is next week and there is nothing comingthe price of everything is crazythe games are all shitcompanies are dyingnothing is comingnothing launched the whole year besides a $1000 CPU lolit's over it's finishedget into another hobby
>>108911630I've upgraded my monitor this year if that counts Haven't touched my system as there's nothing to upgrade to and prices are ass
>>108911630December was the last time to build anything unless you want to spend $7000
There is no battle station thread.I ordered pic related.
>>108911731why?
>>108911738Because it's £1,099 worth of desk for £329.
>>108911731I currently have a cheap standing deskI need to get some better one. Preferably one with 2 steps so it goes down to 60cm ish, is more stable. Itd help if it included a back tray to place some extension cord so only its cable is left on the ground instead of the monitor power cables, and some sort of system to funnel the monitor dp cables through because those can be precarious if they snatch onto something.
>>108911742>it's £1,099 worth of deskit isn't tho
>>108911731>120 × 76 cmbro...
>>108911752Good job I paid £329 then isn't it moron
>>108911760it's not worth even that >>108911757
>>108911747Consider building one, buy the legs, a desktop, etc separately, and drill in screws with pilot holes.Other accessories like peg boards, cable management trays, can be bought and just drilled and screwed in as well.AliExpress might sell a cable management tray or under side tray that clamps onto a desk top, cheap desks are made of hollow particle board and cannot be drilled into.
>>108911776Please explain the exact number it's worth then, go on, pull a number out of your ass since you've already commited to this stupid un-winnable argument.
>>108911799it's 120cm long. it's worth nothing.
>>108911805You can add two side extensions, or buy the bigger platform 6 desk (which also has 2 extensions)
>>108911826just buy some legs and build your own desk at this point
>>108911742Please don't tell me you bought this just because it was on sale, are you a woman?
>>108911846At least I'm not gay.
So I was thinking if I'm installing a new CPU and Motherboard, should I also replace my 5-6 year old EVGA PSU? I'm gonna have it paired with a 250KP and a 9070 XT.
>>108911647I don't know what hobby to get into now that AI has raped everythingI would start a family if it was possible to find a woman
I was about to bid on an i5 14th gen cpu for about $120 but then at the last minute researched and saw 13th gen and 14 gen are to be avoided because they. Is it still true?
>>108912014Because they *fry themselves
>>108912014>>108912023used ones should probably be avoidedeven if the seller tells you it's stable, you don't know if they actually know how to stress test properlybuying new is not a problem
>>108911846I just bought 10 arctic p14s because they were at 50% sale, yes I do have a use for all of them3 for each server, 6 for my machine, I could even buy more for others peoples machines but it's already enough money spent
>>108908824I use an IKEA stool as a footrest.It's better than you'd expect.
>>108909129
intel already said they are going to refresh raptor lake, you should stop buying those chips and wait for the refresh
>>108912058Used 13th and 14th or cpus in general?
>>108912087lmao alder lake refresh refresh refresh>>108912093used 13th and 14thhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLumZn8DZVAmaybe if they give you the receipt you could get a replacement from intel, if it doesn't work properlyall raptor lake processors are still covered by the extended warrantyyour choice
>built overpriced PC recently>feels like I took the last helicopter out of 'NamI hope prices go down but if they don't or if consumer products become more limited I'll have to make my build last.
I can't wait for apple to release their revolutionary m20 macbook pro with the great silicon ever known to man and it will still only be able to run a game from 4 years ago in 60 fps. or better yet you will have to subscribe to stream sloppa.why oh why did i buy an m3 macbook pro :((
>>108912106alder lake was a good generation, yeah ecores was a mistake, removing hyperthreading was a mistake, removing avx512 was a mistake, using 250w power was a mistake, but it's a lot of cores and they are fast and it's made in ancient 10nm, if they get to relaunch raptor lake without it's ridiculous suicidal tendencies it would be a decent platform to build using ddr4
AMD secret tool
>trying to install a second SSD on desktop mobo >apparently with my CPU, only one M.2 slot works Well fuck me, why is this shit so fucking complicated?
>>108912300the lanes might be halved on the m.2 slot but it should work
>>108912300you're already using all your pci lanes
>>108912311Nothing detects it. Not Windows, Linux, BIOS, whatever. >>108912315My what now?
>>108912332reinstall itnvmes can be fiddly to get correctly in
>>108912337You sure? Apparently 10th gen Intel processors only support one M.2 slot. Should I just reinstall it?
>>108912361find the motherboard manual first, online
>>108912371https://dlcdnta.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1200/TUF%20GAMING%20B560M-PLUS%20WIFI/E19912_TUF_GAMING_B560M-PLUS_WIFI_UM_V2_WEB.pdf?model=TUF%20GAMING%20B560M-PLUS%20WIFI&Signature=RzH7tTYIG2X4zTdqgSJoniiD0edZT-a008bXo5I9ZBdBL1DnWuVPdpAu~0sQlozagw2PVgNp1gnkzj7aSudjXRCcVjVlOhC-JpnMkCz7~~OPqPvJzBZ7EKkIroKRcxcz6hxb4BaMOHsWjKj3Gz~q0BNLczYPFKyXBb0VCmOoIW8jypIjrSOyIadkAAChyH7Pt5SUmLnuFrSDgANomI5wXD3zYzgdIMKhVKqwN02uABmrGgbcmnzeDJJjcL6eonwi4wpOTIYgqn9H~CUAJypiaQgaX29w4Qw8iXI8f1PUH24jg3OlLr-JE2LNAOXJJYoPb5xbWyFuYj0R9e9GJ1TbIA__&Expires=1779823815&Key-Pair-Id=K2ITB7O97XKKCXI guess I gotta get one of those PCIe NVMe adapter cards.
Oh my god I'm going to fucking kill myself I drew my curtains to stop my neighbour peering into my fucking bedroom and this fucking old bitch is coughing up a storm. Fuck off you rancid BITCH.
Crazy uncs had to do all this work just to be worse than my Ryzen.
>>108912285>yeah ecores was a mistakeE-cores are awesome>removing hyperthreading was a mistakeADL/RPL has hyperthreading>removing avx512 was a mistakethat's true, should have emulated it with 256-bit on E-cores>using 250w power was a mistakeall high core count chips use a lot of power>without it's ridiculous suicidal tendenciesfixed almost two years agobut sure lol whatever
I saw some cpu benchmark where intels 250k was using a lot of power on multicore workloads, so amd 8 core cpu won the contest on power consumption
Intel said they were keeping production of the 14th gen chips up along with their motherboards. So where are they? Why can't I buy a 14600K for 1099 PLN right now for a DDR4 system?
>>108912507more power for better latency :)
>>108912507those people just want to feel good about their purchasea 7950X/9950X also uses 200+ W easily (as they should)>>108912508idk they've gone up like $100 since last year
>>108912526>idk they've gone up like $100 since last yearWtf, this is bullshit. I just want to upgrade from my 3600X so I can race cars in Garry's Mod with more than 50 FPS.
>>108912547finding a good LGA1700 DDR4 board can be a challenge as wellthough you can always get a used board>upgrade from my 3600X so I can race cars in Garry's Mod with more than 50 FPSmight be one of the few cases where the relaunched 5800X3D will make sense (even if it inevitably ends up costing more than a 14600K)
>>1089067518TB is still large enough that your safest bet is going to be an enterprise grade drive like a WD Gold.
>>108911393>HBMChina is likely to be able to produce this in 10~15 years.At that point it will be trickled down to consumers whether the datacenter overlords like it or not.
>>108911187>>108911119You can't chargeback or RMA a fake nicotroon story, anon.>>108912014Microcode updates have long since been pushed to fix issues with the CPUs.
PC Building redpill>Best CaseYour preference>Best CPU9850X3D (gaming)9950X (prod)9950X3D2>Best GPURTX 5090 32GBRTX 4090 24GBRTX 5070 Ti 16GBRX 9070 XT 16GBRX 7900 XTX 24GB>Best SSDSamsung 990 Pro (Gen4)Samsung 9100 Pro (Gen5)WD_BLACK SN850X (Gen4)WD_BLACK SN7100 (Gen5)>Best RAMCORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR5G.Skill Trident
>>108912813And when pricing is taken into account:
>>108912813>Samsung 990 Pro (Gen4)>Samsung 9100 Pro (Gen5)those suck on linux>CORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR5>G.Skill Tridenttoo tall. stupid lights. G.Skill Ripjaws S5 is better.
>>108912813>>108912823>>108912831What about PSU?
>>108912895seasonic and fsp
>>108912813also only buy MSI or ASUS boards.
>>108912813If money isn't one of your problems SanDisk now has the Optimus GX and Pro line that are slightly better in specs
>>108912895google psu tier list, there's a dedicated team of autists who maintain one.
lmao
Why aren't 200mm fans popular anymore?
>>108912081i bought an adjustible footrest off aliexpress, its strong and i love the angle i can get on it, not exactly cheap but soo good i bought 2, one for each foot.
>>108912949they never were
Is this overpriced?>1500 CAD>Ryzen 5800X>Asus Rog Strix B550>64GB G Skill DDR4 3600>2x 1tb SSD (m.2 - unclassified)>GTX 3070>Corsair 4000x as case>Corsair H115i as AIO Cooler>850WMy friend saw this and normally I'd say meh but desu Ram/SSD prices are inflated as fuck....I recommended him a build a while back but thinking about it. his is almost around the same price with slightly altered stats like he can legit buy the 5070ti and hit the same price.https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/8BcNck
>>108912949because SFF is popular, and 200mm is too big for those
>>10891294512400 is like $100
When is a case like this ever necessary? Is it just placebo?
>>108912976>just buy intel>amd 4 is dead>you can buy a cheap i5 and run it with ddr4>bro that is your best option>am4 sucks
>>108912413>always buy the cheapest motherboard model anon, the more expensive ones are just silly gimmicks!poorfag anons always downplaying spending money on higher quality parts are hysterical.
>>108912987And that's all true, what is your point?And by i5 what people mean is a 12600k or 14600k
>>108913000>still needs ddr5 to match an x3d chipkek
>>108912987still truetechtuber numbers are always bullshithttps://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107992484/#107996200>>108913000no chip with locked VCCSA makes sense14400 is unlocked btw
>>108907912The case has a builtin one
>>108913016oc costs more and you need even more expensive memory to do thatalso better coolingalso a better mobox3d mogs stock with non of that fancy memory and motherboard
Post your favorite cases
>>108912983looks pretty cool to me
>>108913032zero agency in your life>if it says 3000 MHz on the box, it can only do 3000 MHz
>>108913048>it can only do 3000 MHzsome kits are just dogshit and you are going to waste a week trying everything with tme and testing for stablity. if every kit was bdie from samsung it would make sense but they aren't. stupid nigger.
>>108913058you don't need B-die from samsunglike i said you have no agency in your life, or you're retardedand i never implied you need to OC anything, that was you, XMP is not OC
>>108912988its kinda weird tholike the manufacturer puts in 2 m.2 slots but only 1 is usable for large portion of the audiencefor what reason, is it limited by the cpu are all pre 11th gen cpus unable to have 2 m.2 slots?
>>108913036>>108913036>>108913036
>>108906807right dude = retarded sellout
>>108913044www.pccasegear.com/products/67131/tryx-luca-l70-midtower-case-whitei'd have gotten this if i didn't already have an Antec Flux pro. Although i quite like the flux pro so i don't regret much.
>>108912976>better 1% and 0.1% lowsThis isn't the own you think it is.
>>108914290>ddr5
>i9-273PQE>12p core cpu from intel>it still sucks assKeK