>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 250K, 14600K, 7/9600X, 7/9800X3D-Budget: 225F, 7500F, 12600KWorkstation: 270K*Avoid Ascrock motherboards on AM5*New sockets likely next year*On Raptor Lake microcode updates are mandatory, avoid second-hand>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-6, MX-7, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt, 5060-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5070, 9070-Used: 3080, 3080ti4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Previous : >>108906626
Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!>Price trackingRAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacitiesSSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssdGPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking>GPU hierarchy 2026https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Other helpful LinksMobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder
PC Building redpill>Best CaseYour preference>Best CPU CoolerYour preference>Best CPU9850X3D (gaming)9950X (prod)9950X3D2>Best GPURTX 5090 32GBRTX 4090 24GBRTX 5070 Ti 16GBRX 9070 XT 16GBRX 7900 XTX 24GB>Best SSDSamsung 990 Pro (Gen4)Samsung 9100 Pro (Gen5)WD_BLACK SN850X (Gen4)WD_BLACK SN7100 (Gen5)>Best RAMCORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR5G.Skill Ripjaws S5
what happened to nicotroon i kinda miss himdid he get mogged too hard
>>108913173
>>108913190you're right going to r/amd is a great idea
Please say something nice about my computer.
>he bought a 5070
>>108913215>Please say something nice about myIt looks quite gay!
>>108913215It has RAM in it.
>>108913215many lgbt lights. i hope you make it to pride month!
>>108913173Hopefully they finally decided to rangeban his assHere's his last voice recording he left us : >Hey faggots, you don't want to use the real thread? You're going to pay for it now. I won't bake anymore threads, instead I'm just going to rape- *autistic gibberish. You'll never have a good pcbg again. It's just going to be nothing but fucking fake bait posts. I'll start genning them with ai, you won't even know who to answer. *another short burst of gibberish - It's over... You don't get to have a thread now, cause you won't use the right one.>>108913215You have ascended
>>108913229>Bought a 9070>Already can't use important graphical features
>>108913173He's too busy punishing people for daring to disobey him.
>important graphical post good games that have it
>>108913252i never listen to those recordings i just can't do ittoo autistic for me>>108913282lmao
>>108913161>WD Black SN7100Good power efficiency but mediocre performance.I got mine for around $130
>>108913285cyberpunk
>>108913334>good games
What do you think of 4070 Ti Super? Is it not teh best used 16GB nvidia money can buy?I can't decide between that and a 3070 modded 8->16GB. Kinda want a dual modded 3070 setup for local slopping with qwen 27 dense, not sure about inference speed.
>>108913329What are the best gen5 ssds?
>>108913215What RTX GPU is that?
>>108913359It's still good though, if you don't care about it having no DRAM
So I've never heard of the brand but they got good prices, are Darkflash power supplies any good?
>>108913036>Thermalrite Phantom Spirit isn't #1 suggested aircooler.I seriously don't get it. It'd like 40 dollars and performs better than noctua's version.
>>108913252I don't go into generals enough to catch these does he have that fucked up autistic strained throat (((((((((fem))))))))) voice or is he just regular lispy autistic
>>108913044Sliger SM580My first ever ITX case. This case fucking ruled. It's a shame Sliger got out of the ITX game and went back to server racks.The removable front panel for sata drive storage was genius, more itx cases should do it. I think the NR200 line from cooler master has it but those cases are pretty bulky and the newer revisions suck.
>>108913570https://voca.ro/1b7p2zRQKmnP
>>108913562>40 dollarsusecase when there are decent aio's for that much?
>>108913622It doesn't fail or leak ever, and will cool 120w cpu's just fine. I will NEVER use an AIO. Anything that can go wrong will go wrong. If an AIO leaks it can take out your entire PC. If an air cooler fails, you replace the fan. Additionally, since it has two fans you can still use your PC while you wait on your replacement fan.
>>108913602Eh sounds fine I expected it to be far more grim, bit of the ol' spectrum lisp there at the start for sure desu. Reminds me a bit of that one MvM cuck
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3nTqmLThis is my build so far. What kind of Power Supply should I get for it? I'm leaning toward an 850w one, but I want to be certain I have enough headroom.
>>108913562Because LF III exists?
>>108913622Also the aircooler in OP's post isn't any better than the phantom spirit or peerless assassin, and costs nearly twice as much. The fuck?
>>108913036>cucked airflow case
>>1089133904090, I get all the CUDA cores.
Speaking about cable management trays, any recommendations? Or should I just stick some velcro under my desk?
WOLED or QD-OLED?
>>108913036Reminder that ALL PC parts will raise in price.It doesn't matter if they're being used for data centers.As demand for parts lower because some parts increase in price, they'll make less of the others.That means an eventual price increase.
>>108913949QD OLED
new to PC building but I have done some reading/looking around for how it's done and have an idea. I know it's basically like building legos though.What the fuck do I get? All these fnacy model names and terms for the shitcum 400 TX series cpu or the poopcock iii3k motherboard. What the fuck is actually worthwhile to get? My budget is about 2500 cad with wiggle room so long as I can play games like Elden Ring smoothly and be able to play the next batch of fromsoft main releases that's good enough for me I can upgrade parts later.
newbro here, I bought this MSI MEG Z490 UNIFY LGA 1200 ATX and I just noticed it doesnt have any display ports or HDMI ports, does this board like disable the use of the iGPU entirely, like I cant use it to do some rendering?
>>108914010you are a year late, go ask AI for some recommendations anon.
>>108914010Buy a prebuilt with at least a 5070
>>108914010>so long as I can play games like Elden Ring smoothly and be able to play the next batch of fromsoft main releases that's good enough for meAt what resolution?
>>108914035should still be possiblethough i noticed now the iGPU on my 14700K is not available, i haven't touched anything so i assume it got disabled automatically because i'm not using the ports
Does the AMD Fine Wine™ still apply to RX 9070?
>>108914088It's AMD Semen now
>>108914085man
Is this overpriced?>1500 CAD>Ryzen 5800X>Asus Rog Strix B550>64GB G Skill DDR4 3600>2x 1tb SSD (m.2 - unclassified)>GTX 3070>Corsair 4000x as case>Corsair H115i as AIO Cooler>850WMy friend saw this and normally I'd say meh but desu Ram/SSD prices are inflated as fuck....I recommended him a build a while back but thinking about it. his is almost around the same price with slightly altered stats like he can legit buy the 5070ti and hit the same price.https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/8BcNck
What are good SSD's nowadays? Ones that you can expect to last 20+ years and won't throttle.
>>108913636Do you refuse to use a PSU as well?
old school devs used every trick they knew to make their games run on toaster PCs and incredibly underpowered consolesmodern devs can't optimize for shit and their games run like shit even on powerful hwwhat went wrong here bros?
>>108914210shareholders
>>108914044yeah I know, ram and everything worthwhile to make machine spirit run good is fucking extortionately priced, didn't ask though>>108914066but that's not as fun>>108914083like 1080 or 1440 ideally
>>108914210Fact of the matter is modern games are technologically demanding. The amount of power needed to run these games at full force on a console would mean they would need to be 3x bigger, heavier, and drawing way more power. So essentially they would need to be a pc. It's why your pc draws twice or thrice the power of a console and GPUs are the size and weight of a console alone.Super sampling was invented for this purpose. To attempt to upscale games while keeping the power consumption low enough that you don't need a mini fridge sized gaming rig to run it.I don't know why this is so difficult for people to understand. Of course a console the size of a shoe box isn't going to run a game at native 4k. Of course a Switch 2 or Steam Deck the size of a book is going to need to run games at 720p otherwise they'd need to be the size of a laptop with cooling that sounds like a hair dryer.
>>108914261ps5 mogs older computers that ran games that looked better than this pos running at 720pfucking cuck nigger. stop talking. it's lazy development.
>>108913215Nice saggers.
I wanna get some speakers but I have an asymmetric setup (pic related), should I just put them down asymmetrically? Is it that big of a deal? I tried looking for measurements for stuff that would fit under the monitors but none do not even the pebbles
>>108913036It was cheaper for me at the time for the white gpu support bracket. I might just paint it black. 270k plus and RTX 3080
>>108914345RTX 3080 gang gang. >i9-9900k>2x16GB Gskill 3200MHz CL14-14-14-34. Samsung B-Die>EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra>5TB of Samsung SSD spaceThis i9 still gives me more than playable fps in every single modern game and multiplayer game at 1440p. Except for CPU bound games like World of Warcraft. I'm on the fence on whether I'm going to be buying the new 5800X3D 10th Anniversary edition to use with my existing AM4 motherboard in my closet and DDR4 kit, or if I'm going to bank on China's CXMT actually driving down DDR5 prices so I can justify just upgrading straight to a 9850X3D.
Stencil shadows... soul
>>108914412Wait for zen 6 bro, I should be announced either in computex or next year ces.
>>108914425It's RAM prices that keep me from upgrading. $380+ for a mediocre at BEST 32GB kit of DDR5 that was $140 a year ago is just insulting to me.
>i9-273PQE>12p core cpu from intel>it still sucks asslel
>>108914439it kicks ass but memory speeds are locked because intel hates fun
>>108914451nah it sucks. intel doesn't even want to sell it to anyone. they are so embarrassed about it.
>>108914457ok have fun with your 8 core ryzen sweetie
>>108914451>>108914457reminds me of Intels i7-5775C. Was a broadwell based architecture 4c8t CPU with 128MB of L4 cache, basically 3D memory cache CPUs before it was mainstream. They quickly moved onto Skylake and left it behind.
>>108914467x3dx3dx3dx3dx3dintel sissies with their estrogen filled cuck core cpus could never. not even 12 p cores can help them. so fucking dogshit hahahaa.
>>108914474270k basically beats all amd cpus for the price, but the mobo platform and ddr5 are uninteresting to buy so it doesnt matter
>>108914484so it also sucks? KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
>>108914472it's a little weird that they would design a 12 P-core die for a niche industrial producti guess they just copy+pasted 4 P-cores into the E-core clusters but stillsome anon was talking about another raptor lake refresh so it would be awesome if it showed up there (but don't count on it)>>108914474still a meme3dmy system is still the fastest in this threadhttps://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108857023/#108857317
>>108914489As amd loses the advantage of x3d bringing big gains, chiplets, tsmc vs intel 14nm+++ I would bet people start to move onto intel chips the coming years
>>108914494>it's the fastest in cs2 which is well optimized and meant to run on lil l3 cache cpusthat is not the flex you think this is
>>108914506it's the fastest in all gamesmostly because i'm the only person that actually bothers to post benchmark numbersthe rest of you are presumably on laptops or phoneposting
>>1089133424070 Ti Super is better than a 16 GB modded 3070.5070 Ti is better than both.>>108913540>are Darkflash power supplies any good?Midtier at worst according to HWBusters (Cybenetics PSU rating guy)https://hwbusters.com/psus/who-really-makes-your-power-supply/>>108913705850W is fine, 1000W if you want to use the PSU in a future build with beefier processors.>>108914035MSI Unify is an extreme overclocking board, iGPU headers are not supported in XOC boards.
>>108914510next thing you are going to say is that you tuned your install and settings like a neet with all the time in the world
When the FUCK is Intel going to make 3D memory CPUs of their own?When the FUCK is China's CXMT going to flood the market with their Chinky Chinese Chicken DDR5 modules so we stop getting raped?
>>108914525the performance you get out of your system is directly proportional to how much effort you put into itthough no amount of effort will save your 5500X3D so might as well give up and continue shitposting on the toilet
>>108914534>When the FUCK is China's CXMT going to flood the market with their Chinky Chinese Chicken DDR5 modules so we stop getting raped?They just started ramping up production so we'll need to wait at least 2 years for it to make a difference in the market.
>>108914210>>108914274works on my machine
>>108914542by then they'll figure out how to make hbm for ai datacenters and shift all production to make that
>>108914539>intel is good if you spend all your day and night tuning it bros>x3d is just good all the timeyeah sure. i am going to buy an intel cpu and waste my time polishing this turd and buy a motherboard when i want to upgrade.>>108914545anal sex works on all mammals too
>>108914549>x3d is just good all the timeyour x3d is not good all the time
>>108914542>2 yearsREEEEE I guess I'm just going to buy a fucking 5800X3D re-release for $300+ in fucking 2026. I'm already at the point where I'm doing major BIOS tweaks, Memory tuning and tweaking, and a whole slew of other things to stretch my 9900k. These dog shit single core loving games just seem to demand AMD's x3d shit.
>>108914500>As amd loses the advantage of x3d bringing big gainspure copium, AMD has designed the ryzen architecture to use as much bandwidth as it can which is why gains occur with cache
>>108914557it works best in cpu bound games that need a lot of bandwidthi can live with anything else not using it that much. those games don't need the performance boost.
>>108914558The best thing about x3d chips is that they don't need the best ram to work, you'll easily get 90%+ with any shitty ram you can get.
>>108914248hello anon i recently built a pc with a 9070XT 16gb and can run elden ring at 60fps (havent tried unlocking FPS) at max settings at 1440p with raytracing
>>108914577I have my 9900k paired with a top tier samsung B-die based 3200MHz kit so I'll just be moving the RAM over to the AM4 system. Just feels bad to be buying a 5800X3D re-release.
>>108914581Eden ring is locked to 60fps max by design, you can't go higher unless you mod the game
>>108914558you could also replace your 9900K with a 14700k and a DDR4 motherboard but honestly I would just hold for Zen 6
>>108914558>I'm already at the point where I'm doing major BIOS tweaks, Memory tuning and tweaking, and a whole slew of other things to stretch my 9900kpost memtweakit screenshotmaybe we can stretch it a little further (don't expect a miracle)>>108914576i'm not shitting on people with 9950X3Ds i'm shitting on your system in particular
>>108914585I feel you bro, I'm still pissed I didn't pull the plug on a 5700x3d when they were available for $150
>>108914593because your cpu is only good in one game?
>>108914581how much did that set you back by? if it works that good I'm assuming I can budget *some* cheaper parts for a first build and upgrade later
>>108914600lol you really don't want to admit you're on a 5500X3D from aliexpressi've seen your posts, keep copingyou don't get to hang with the zen 5 people
>>108914595>5700X3D for $150You're telling me. I didn't realize X3D mattered because desu, my 9900k gets me fantastic frames at 1440p in like 99% of games that I play. It's only certain CPU/memory bound games that you can 100% feel the difference. My 9900k/RTX 3080 gets me as low as 40-ish fps lows in WoW raid environments. Meanwhile my friend has a ryzen 5600X3D and RTX 3060 Ti. He cruises along at >75fps at all times on higher graphics settings than me. He even started fucking around with 4K in the same game.
>>108914613>lol you really don't want to admit you're on a 5500X3D from aliexpressbecause i am not?
>>108914619lmao
>>108914593>post memtweakit screenshotI had to google what that even was. I did it manually lmao. I don't feel like cooking my memory kit by slamming insane voltage into it, so I focused more on maintaining the same MHz but getting the timings down into the CL12 area. Tbh might even be placebo. I only saw a 1%-ish gain in benches.
>>108914592>14th genI'd rather not buy a ticking time bomb of a CPU that will eventually eat itself alive.
>>108914638>I had to google what that even wasyou can get memory timings in hwinfo64 as well but memtweakit shows more info>I don't feel like cooking my memory kit by slamming insane voltage into ityou don't need more voltage to get higher frequency on B-die unless you're doing XOC shitthe memory controller will limit you first>Tbh might even be placebo. I only saw a 1%-ish gain in benchesif you only changed one timing then yeah that would be placebo
>>108913036the only card worth getting is a 4090. and those are now $3000+there is no point in building a PC unless you want to degrade yourself with underpowered amd slop and them come here to bitch daily about shit your experience is
I'm on a 5600 from aliexpress
>>108914117bumpcan someone PLEASE FUCKING GOD DAMN IT REPLY
>>108914650I'm on a 5600x and will probably be on it till 2030 by the looks of it.
>>108914650basedbecause you're not acting like an insecure fag
>>108914665more like he's poor, like you LMAO
>>108914694bodied that freak
I'm very worried about the future of pc building/gamingWill the Chinese save us and have components for us to buy in the future?
>>108914521it was the cheapest lga1200 board on ebay... nyo...
>>108914694you're still shitposting on the toilet, there's no evidence anywhere that you even own a PC
>Haven't needed to get a bigger SSD in years>Now prices are all ass.It don't matter. None of this matters.
>>108914703Who is actually buying everything up? I read that it wasn't the big three (OpenAI, Anthropic, Google) that was buying up all the consumer grade GPUs, but all these shitty start ups that think they are going to be the next ChatGPT.I don't know if that's the case or not
>>108914703i don't care if pc gaming dies. i have enough pcs and all the games i would ever want to play. i'd like to see it die just for intel to go down with it. intel and nvidia. both of them. pc gaming can die if both of those get taken out with it.
>>108914714
>>108914612it was around 700 i believe, i reused old ddr4 32gb RAM and a ryzen 7 5800x so the total cost didn't feel too bad but just know pc parts are getting expensive and will probably only go up in price the longer you wait to build
>>108914733But do you have AV Director Life! ? Hmmmm?
>>108914751i mean your specs are worse than mine but you're not the person i was addressingi'm talking about the seething retard with a 5500X3Dmy apologies
>>108914759sounds gay. if no more of those games get made i am all for it.
>>108914768>AV Director Life!>gayhmmm I hate to tell you this......
>>108914770>tranny anime shit>not gayanon i....
>>108914781>being a porn producer>fucking anime girls and editing the videos to sell>gayI think you're on the wrong site, chuddly. reddit is on the other side of town.
>>108914791>
>>108914800anime site, go back and never come here again
>>108914803go back to your containment board tranny freakdon't ack yourself on your way out
>>108914804I cant comprehend how you could possibly post something that looks like it came straight off the sharty then within 5 minutes tell them to "go back" to their "containment board", why dont you go back to your containment website?
>>108914816freaks like you can't even comprehend that they will never be a woman. so that checks out. don't make your problem my problem.
Only good anime game was RapeLay made by illusion before they went to shit.
>>108914835what happened? did trannies get a hold of it? how come?
>>108914839They became ILLGAMES and is very anti-modding
Went from a r5 1600 and gtx 1660 ti to a r7 5700x and rtx 5070. Hoping the 5800x3d gets re-released in my region
>>108914314>stuff that would fit under the monitors but none do not even the pebblesLightweight "pebble" type or whatever can go on top of the primary monitor maybe, with a shelf thingie.https://www.amazon.com/Mount-Plus-Compatible-Microphones-Spotlights/dp/B09SDZTN2P?sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYhttps://www.amazon.com/QIYUNI-Monitor-Storage-Computer-Adjustable/dp/B0D9T9P5C7
Daniel Owens 5090 meltedOk the meme might be final, a good cope for being poor and not buying the connector But that only leaves the 9070 xt without the meme connector or coping and buying a lower power draw card
>>108914872I will never buy a card with that connector, it's one of the reasons I gladly went with the 9070xt this generation
>>108914872I've been saying for like 5 years, they need to limit the cable to 350w and put 2 of them on these GPUs
>>108914881i am never going to buy a gpu that needs more than two 8 pins and or a 12pin
>>108914872NVIDIA bros it's so fucking over...
>>108914756yeah I know that's why I'm biting the bullet now but still trying to at least pretend to budget
>>108914872Asrock did put the meme connector on some 9070XTs which have melted
Opinion on used enterprise hdd from ebay?
>>108914933His vid comment section ..
>>108914938Backup and redundancy, if that's in place it's fine assuming the price is right.
>>108914872Don't worry, Nvidia already contacted him. :^)
>>108914997the nvidia PR agency works fast...
>>108913949>QD-OLEDbetter color saturation, no grain from glossy coating, lower peak brightness, color fringing from pentile subpixel layout>WOLEDmuch higher brightness from tandem technology, grainy matte finish, less saturation in HDR making it pop less, better wrgb subpixel layout than most QD-OLEDs rgbg
Can I trust a new eBay account verified with 9 reviews so far 100%? Seems like SSDs and I’m lookin at RAM. And know those could be fake reviews.. Best price I’ve seen in a while. No returns but eBay guaranteed so no risk from my end and worth taking a chance?
>>108914494>it's a little weird that they would design a 12 P-core die for a niche industrial producti imagine its because of some politics between upper management who greenlit e-cores and the guy who insisted on p-cores going 'i told you e-cores were gonna flop'
>>108915057Link it
i had a msi b650 that i got a couple years ago or something, and my wifi was giving me trouble and being generally shit so i finally decided to just yolo and buy a new mobo. i got a overpriced rog x870 f gaming wifi mobo locally (for like 430 buckaroos) because i needed something same day so i could play terraria.anyways it turned out the wifi 7 needs windows 11 so i unfortunately had to upgrade and its awful, but ive finally done some many tweaks its almost like windows 10 again, and i even got a windows 7 skin on it allanyways its basically very gay overall but the mobo wifi works so thats cool. hopefully linux will get better wifi 7 support in the future so i can run pop os on this like i have on my laptop
>>108915063some services that run on few threads benefit from faster cores and lower latency, specially older services that haven't/won't get multithreading support like networking
>>108915063yeah you're right because E-cores flopped really badly
>>108915066So you can buy it? https://ebay.us/m/KbfgG4
>>108915069linux already has wifi 7 support
>>108915086ig the problem is the mediatek wifi card in the mobo doesnt have linux drivers. i could get a pcie card i suppose
>>108915028>color fringing from pentile subpixel layoutFAKE NEWS
>>108915080these prices don't' even look good
>>108915118These are the good prices now friend.
>>108915118Best you can get on Amazon for 96gb cl30 6000 is 1300-1400. They’re literally pricing everyone out of AI to force everyone to use the cloud so it can all be monitored. Anyway, no risk w/ the guarantee? Don’t use eBay frequently.
>>108915124Trust the seller? Has anyone had any issues w/ eBay guarantee?
>>108915080If you need a PC with 96GB DDR5 memory, make your company/employer pay for that.
>nice looking hardware>ugly looking and performing OS/software
>>108915135All windows PCs in existence
>>108915133I have 32gb ddr5 currently, wanted to run my own LLM offline and use the top models. And don’t think I’ll be able to buy it in the future due to the aforementioned reasons. I’m just prepping before they start scanning iris’ or verifying your ID to access the internet, cause im sorry, it’s just, I’m not going to opt into biodigital convergence. I’m sorry.
>>108915135>using w*ndows
>>108915161nta and I'm computer illiterate but what other option is there aside from linux or something?
>>108915184linux has so many different versions alone...+ DEs+ Init Systems+ WMs
>>108915184>>108915195https://distrowatch.com/images/other/distro-family-tree.png
>>108915184linux is a hobby, not an os, stay in windows if you're not willing or able to spend time learning stuff, but it is very fun to get into it
>>108915199It's absolutely an OS, and for the majority of users, it will just werk™
>>108915203you just don't have to be retarded about it. that is all. then it just works.
>>108915203linux user here, yes it actually just works i cant believe i didnt switch sooner
>>108914210Halo CE was one of the earliest games to incorporate bump/normal mappingHalo CE had bullet casings looked like real metal shells, didn't disappear quickly but remained on the ground for a long time (nothing cooler to see tons of bullet shells scattered everywhere after a fire fight), and watching them realistically roll down hills. Specular on bsp is all kinds of broken in Halo 2, different ways depending on version of the game. Bungie disabled it on many surfaces because of this. In MCC it has a broken directional computation, in Vista it just doesn't work at allHalo 2's maps were so big the original Xbox couldn't handle it. Containment is the biggest map in Halo 2.Halo 3 ran at 1152x640, it wasn't even 720p>“[Y]ou could argue we gave you 1280 pixels of vertical resolution, since Halo 3 uses not one, but two frame buffers, both of which render at 1152×640 pixels,”a Bungie representativewrote. “The reason we chose this slightly unorthodox resolution and this very complex use of two buffers is simple enough to see: lighting. We wanted to preserve as much dynamic range as possible, so we use one for the high dynamic range and one for the low dynamic range values. Both are combined to create the finished on screen image.”ODST didn't have any rain because the engine didn't support itReach's motion blur technique, like in Tekken 6, works on an individual object basis>Reach's lighting system means that there can be upward of thirty or more light sources on screen at once, given off via weapons fire, explosions, and environmental lighting, such as the glow given off from lights inside buildings. All of these light sources are real-time, and interact with their surroundings. So a gunshot, or rounds from a Needler will light up surrounding areas, and change the shadows created by moving objects. Each individual projectile from the Needler also has its own light source
>>108915199Just pick mint or maybe one of the gaming distros and then it will just work. Of course it's not perfect (I think nvidia has some issues and some games won't work) but for most people it should be fine.
Is there any good benchmark/comparisons between RX9070's video encoders compared to Nvidia?I know nvidia is usually better but it would help to know how far behind amd is still
>>108915345Yes there are, I remember watching one when they first came out and the guy concluded that AMD had closed the gap. You just gotta spend some time looking for non mainstream things like that.
>>108915345>>108915375I think it was EposVox that made that video, the cards are better but the software companies need to optimize them for amd cards and they generally don't
>>108915345here is a video that looks at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkf7q4L5xl8seems like the biggest issue at the moment, is getting software updated to take advantaged of the dual encoders / decoders on rdna 4. overall quality is now at a point nvidia really isn't "that" much better anymore.
Got this card out of a dump, my understanding is that it's SUPPOSED to have an s-video out but this particular model just didn't, could I just solder one on and have any expectation of it working as intended (inb4 not if you got it out of the dump: already confirmed to work)? The holes are still there. Just want to plug a pc into a crt.
>>108915184Apple retard
>>108915433This is pretty cool.Thanks
>>108913036I'm so fucking scared, /g/. I can't imagine not having a PC.
my radeon still on 25 12 driver. updoot or not?
>>108915574i am on mesa 26feels good not being a cuck
>>108915501no one gives a fuck about mac so I didn't include them
how can I find what is causing this? my games (007, crimson desert, warframe, etc) all stutter on performance settings when they did used to before. temps are all fine, drivers are up to date. specs are GeForce RTX 4080, Ryzen 5800X3D 8core, 32gig ram, SSD. any help?
>>108915623ddupsuramu
>>108915623didnt used to before*
>>108915632psu is EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G+ idk how to check on itram is 32gig of G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 4 sticks all workingI ddu's last week and it didnt seem to do anything
>>108915647reinstall windowstry using 2 sticks
>>108915654will have to try it tomorrow, dont want to take out or reinstall anything an hour before I hit bed but will do later
>all midrangep rebuilts now unrionically have 16gb ddr5lol>9800x3d+9070xt prebuilts cost 2x as much as they should costhas gotten even more terrible since last time I checkeda discounted laptop + hdmi2.1 connection to a 77" tv + upscaling might be all i need>>108914997>just benchmark games and talk about hardware>make over 100k from yt and more than his shitty day jobit's really THAT easy to make it
>>108915623>>108915647unplug any new or unneeded usb deivcesreset ram to stock settings if using xmp/expo
>>108915623>he buyed an nvidia gpungmi
What's the best budget PC build for local AI and gaming? Keep in mind that I live in a third world shithole
>>1089156803060 12gb is typical shit tier gpu rec for ai5060 ti 16gb would be the next upgrade250k cpu with 32gb ddr5 ram perhaps
same OP with stuttering problem- I tried resetting the PC and the game runs smooth now in the same sections it was just stuttering in without changing anything. is there a known issue that causes a games to stutter when running for so long that I can find a fix for?
>>108915623I think u're using the igpu
>5090s back to OG scalper prices>burns upit's over, I'm back on the poorfag copers sides, paying that much is not worth it
>>108915705no clue what that is
>>108914883they don't want this for the reason that most of the times only 1200W upwards PSU have two 12V-2x6 slots. The 600w adapter needs four 8 pins that would be easier to split I guess but that would ruin the ""aesthetic". They should throw the connector out of the window and do a proper high power one but this won't happen.
They should just stop being retarded and add 48V rails to PSUs.Anyone paying $3000 for a GPU can afford to upgrade a $200 psu
Are MiniLEDs always better than ips or is it heavily brand dependent? ~300$
>>108915840IPS is always better than miniled for light text on dark background
>>108915718Integrated Graphics Processing Unit, the crap vidyacard built into your CPU.No clue on the stuttering. Best of luck.
what do you do with old parts? like GPUs or mobos or whatever. is it worth making a facebook account for marketplace?
>>108915859I take them to a community thrift store if they work. Marketplace is full of weirdos.
>>108915859if it's worth above $300, then sell itif it's worth less than that, display it on a shelf or give it away (cheap goods attract the worst/weirdest cheapskates known to man)
>>108914160MICRON 7450 MAXexpensive as fuck tho
>>108915701my pc was stuttering when my vrm was overheating. the vrm fan had gotten stuck on something
bwos...>upgraded to 5060ti 16gb>used to have a 1070>1080p monitors>used to only be able to play stellar blade on lowest settings, with almost unplayable fps and the game going into some weird slow motion shit every hour>now can play it completely maxed out with about 80-90 fps on average>with stellar blade running and all my normal computer stuff up, almost 14 gigs of vram being usedfuck bwos...i'm so happy. The 1070 was still nice for a lot of my games, but all the new ones I've been wanting to play just didn't work right. Also, I'm glad I went for this instead of the 5070 since it looks like i needed the extra vram.
>>108916152glad you're enjoying your card.I don't know why anyone would buy a 5070 when the 9070 exists
>>108916152I went from the 1070 to the 9070 xt, massive upgrade, the 1070 is still amazing at 1080p for older games tho
>>108916152I went from 1030 to 5060 Ti 16gb and it's glorious to see the massive upgrade.
>>108915706Unless you're willing to switch to AMD you're gonna need to take a chance on the shit connector since it's pretty clear Nvidia is all in on that garbage. The 6000 GPUs and any future generations are guaranteed to use that shit.
>>108916166I had to make that decision and the 5070 was the better purchase overall. Thought I might end up regretting it but it's been great. DLSS is just so good for 4K gaming.
Parents want an NES emulator in their "smart" tv with proprietary OS that doesn't workSo I'm thinking plug in a tiny pc Any builds for what needs to be essentially a minimum viable PC? It just needs a couple of hdmi and usb outlets and to work right, can charge from usb. It just needs to run an NES emulator so it can be anything
year 2 of regretting not buying a 5700x3d for $180 when I had the chance over in the USA
>>108914881>I will never buy a card with that connector,If my 5070 ever melts at 110W I will let you know because that connector is nice and secure for me
>>108914576>it works best in cpu bound games that need a lot of bandwidthSee this is why buying a 5500X3D would have been the smartest choice for Source 1 games, because those only use 4 cores and so they suffer from big CCX latencyUnless that chip has 2+2 CCX in which case fuck
>>108916981You could probably just get a NES for cheaper
>>108917016source games don't scale with cache
>>108917028good point HOWEVER dad insists on a wireless controller which i doubt you can do with an actual NES or a derivative thereof
>>108917030I was given the impression the 5700X3D would have been a fuckhuge boost for Source 1 games, if not CS:GO then stuff like Garry's Mod or Team Fortress 2 and other stuff that gets frequently bloated with mods or addons which cause CPU stalling. 5950X results surprise me though, but I also suspect that whatever they did to CS:GO might have been different than the other games.
>>108917048>5950X results surprise me thoughthey don't surprise me because the 5950X boosts to 5ghz and the 5800X3D boosts to 4.5ghz5500X3D would of course be even worse at only 4ghz
What are the cheapest 2160p 144Hz or 240Hz IPS monitors these days? I'd like something for racing games (so I can see the track ahead of me more clearly) in addition to regular office work in Blender and Photoshop so good colors might still matter to me as well as minimum/maximum brightness.
>>108917030>source games don't scale with cache
>>108917073this is a source 2 game
>>108917064>5950X at 385$ sighthat would have been good to buy when cheap for compiling maps assuming hammer can't use the cuck cores on an intel CPUI might as well spend the money on a cheap motherboard that can run 13600K or 14600K or something since it'll cost about the same by now I imagine with the CPU bundled in
>>10891706877 inch LG G5. Works for me.
>>108914842>Hoping the 5800x3d gets re-released in my regionah yes>intel will restart production on DDR4 motherboards, trust me bro>amd will do another 5800x3d batch, trust me bro
>>108913036What case is that in the OP, Silverstone?
>>108917102nta but there are already leaks of 5800x3d 10th anniversary edition
>>1089170885900XT could be an option, it's just a slightly worse 5950X bin, it still has 16 cores>assuming hammer can't use the cuck cores on an intel CPUfor what? light baking? i don't use hammer but i don't see why it wouldn't be able to use them
>>108917073Source 1, not Source 2Source 1 basically doesn't scale past 4 cores, and it seems to care the most about single-core IPC with the lowest latency. Even a Raptor Lake i5 or an i3 if boosted high enough should be able to trounce Zen 3 in performance with such severe CPU bottlenecks and based on what I hear from people on Raptor Lake this seems to be the case. Whether they are on D5 or D4 I don't know, but I'd imagine it should be at least equal to Zen 3 with DDR4 in Source 1 games.>>1089171225950X was cheaper than the 5900XT for most of its time while performing better for some reason.
>only data I can find on zen 3 X3D versus DDR4 raptor lake is from Russian youtubersgod bless them
>>10891715014700K+DDR4https://docs.comfig.app/latest/benchmarkssbmrk24with mastercomfig low preset (at 1440p but probably not GPU bottlenecked with these settings)
>>108917030>>108917073>averageWhat about the lows? The actual important metric for X3D?
>>108917128Don't most modded scripts for games run on a single thread? Script lag is a serious bottleneck with modding. Would that benefit from x3d cache?
>>108917214would normally never trust LTTbut people don't test this game anymore
>>108914842If it does re-release globally, it will likely be scalped anyway. It was allegedly leaked by a jeet site for $310 however. Make of that what you will.
>>108917218Most games in general run all their shit on your core0 and by moving it off their with task manager or process lasso you improve everything.
>>108917274Yeah, but moving it off core0 has more to do with separating it from background processes. I'm talking about multithreaded (or not) games that are still stuck with single threaded mod scripts all stuck on the main core. I would imagine a game that is properly optimized would benefit more from core clock more tyan l3 cache, but modern multithreaded games seem to benefit from higher low caches. I'm just wondering if a multithreaded game that benefits from l3 cache would still see the same benefits when all it's modded scripts are dumped on a single thread.
>>108917348multithreaded game or not, moving the primary game thread off core 0 improves everything. do you even know what cppc is? core 0 is likely not your best boosting core and you probably also have hyperthreading on so its throwing it to the secondary thread on core 0 which has 30% of the capability of a real core like core 2. a dual ccx cpu is even worse in this regard as core 0 is the non cache core.
all of ya'll wouldn't be obsessing over cpus right now if you would have simply just gotten a 5800x3d when it was out. I am super content with mine that I got like 4 years ago and will probably not upgrade until 2030.
>>108917030>5800XT higher than 5800X3Dwtflmaoi wonder if this applies to tf2/gmod like other anon said cause of the way it handles physics and ai and other stuff
>>108917427But that's too slow and only good for 144hz gaming
>>108917427not enough coresbut i'm happy that you're happysome people in this thread have serious buyer's remorse
>>108917045https://8bitmods.com/retro-bit-origin8-2-4g-wireless-controller-for-nes-switch-pc-mac-gb-grey/This has two wireless receivers, one for original NES and one for PC.
do you guys believe ram will come down around the time zen 6 x3d is out?
>>108917457Only if the AI bubble bursts by then
>>108917457Just look at GPU prices since Covid, they’ve stayed high so i expect the same with ram and storage.
>>108917374I have a 5800X3D, which core do you mean I should put a game process on?
>>108917457its looking promising, the pope is preparing a crusade against the AI antichrist
>>108917467don't think it will ever burst, the future surveillance prison society relies on AI.
>>108917274>Most games in general run all their shit on your core0 and by moving it off their with task manager or process lasso you improve everything.This is literally what I did last night with Garry's Mod and it immediately gave me the same improvement as with TF2, but Zen 2 has a 4+4 CCX layout so I don't know how this would translate to a 5800XT or 5900X when in 8 thread mode with mcore_test enabled, nevermind the Intel CPUs. Disabled a ton of useless addons too that weren't needed.
>>108917482the pope probably uses windows 11 and has a gmail account, it's over.
>>108917203>14700KMan, I considered buying one of these a few months ago but never went through with it because the 5800X3D rumors pacified me as much as "I'm never going to need that much performance so I got better things to spend money on" but I guess I was wrong yet again, friend of mine uses that exact chip in Source games and he gets about 3 or 4 times the frames I get without my potato config trickery. Right now the 14700K costs the same as a 9800X3D which is stupid, seems like it also got hiked $100 like the 14600K which was $300 before going out of stock.
>>108917457it will go up
>>108917457Likely to come down by mid or late 2027 would be my guess
>>108917477>which core do you mean I should put a game process on?I'm on a 3700X and I put my process on core 8, 10, 12, 14 for these quad-core era games.
>>108917524he has like a phd in math so he's a linux user
>>108917448thanks for the suggestion, pinned for now, but too expensive hehe
even hdds are fucking overpriced now(obvious price gouging)I wanted to buy a nas bay my media collection but I can't now and will have to wait for prices to come down for individual drives.
There's a i7-14700F OEM listing going on for $330 right now with limited supply, should I FOMO in? The 14700K is $465. This isn't a heavily gimped version now is it? Not like I plan to overclock anyway unless I can disable all those extra cores to free up power. ST should be on par with a 14600K even though the baseclock is suspiciously low?
>>108917608wait for the refresh
>>108917614>wait for the refreshI'm still waiting? I haven't seen Raptor Lake continue to be available.
>>108917608Do you own a LGA1700 board? That's the only reason to consider Raptor Lake (including refresh) chips in 2026.It's questionable to upgrade from a 12th gen CPU at that price.
>>108913036LISA WHERES MY FUKCING 5800X3D REPRINTS?!?! WHERE IS IT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>108917527>Right now the 14700K costs the same as a 9800X3D which is stupidyeah that's too much, even if the total platform cost would be lower>>108917608ehhhhhh>This isn't a heavily gimped version now is it?no, the only thing you lose out on is overclocking (and undervolting) support>the baseclock is suspiciously low?the base power is only 65 W, you can increase power limits in the BIOS even with a non-K chip
>>108917689>Do you own a LGA1700 board?Nope, X470 with 128GB of DDR4 3200. I concluded that the performance improvement over Zen 3 is potentially worth the cost of a motherboard swap. Which is easier said than done as far as finding a DDR4 motherboard for LGA 1700 that can run an i7 is concerned because I have completely forgotten what has enough VRMs and power stages to support that processor.
>Intel H and B series motherboards somehow more expensive than an X470 board from 2019Crazy
>>108913036Meta question: but is there just one anon autistically making sure they're the only one making the generals?>>108917608The F version is their sans iGPU. If you weren't going to use it, then if anything it's a small plus for less money.Having one for diganostics is nice though when it does come up.
>>108917710I CRIED SO HARDFOR MOTHERBOAAAAAAAARDSBUT IN THE ENDTHEY JUST GOT NO PORRRTSI PAID SO MUCH FOR RAPTOR LAKEBUT IN THE ENDIT'S JUST GOT NO BOAAAAAAARDS\
>>108917723$170 motherboard btw
In 5 years none of you homosexuals will be using a computer. The powers behind the scenes have decided that the best way to control you is by forcing you to use tablets and phones blocked with ID verification and all services and tasks to be cloud based. With cloud based not only can they steal your IP ideas and sell them as their own, but they can monitor you for wrong think, hold your data hostage if you don't pay the subscription, and tell you what you can and can't do. Only a retard thinks the sky high prices right now are purely due to AI. It's part of the plan.
>>108917666this refresh
>>108917742they won't give a shit as long as most of the normie population and low iq thirdies are within the beast system, people have always lived off the mainline rails through out all of human history.
>>108917742that's not gonna happen because china won't allow it, the amerikkkans will try to do it, but china being a threat by making ram, cpus, gpus is too dangerous for them to pull the trigger
>>108914314i love my Creative Pebbles Pro duo speakers, just get 2 phone books and plonk your monitor stands on top of them. Or sit the pebbles behind the monitor and aim them sideways so the sound goes around the speakers.But frankly any speakers will do, just get audio technica imo, no drivers required.
>>108917764keep thinking that but you'll be crying the blues five years from now when you need a computer part but can't get one
>>108917742It doesn't matter in the end. These transhumanist satanic pdfs can have all the material goods and money for themselves but they will never be allowed entry into Christ's kingdom
>>108917742I will be using Linux on whatever hardware I can acquire.
>>108917783there will be a black market for computer parts
>>108917723>not even an internal USB 3.0 headerWTFMotherboards are so cheap now
>>108917742Yeah I kind of regret not buying that 4TB SSD in December along with a 3090 or some 24GB GPU now
>>108917834I bought an 8tb SSD back in November on klarnaIt costs nearly double now
>>108917704This chart is getting old, but it still gives you a rough idea of Zen 3 vs. LGA1700 gaming performance.14700F will run games about as well as a 14600K, maybe slower shader precompilation because of the stricter power limit.
>>108917976>zen 2 being that close to zen 3 let alone zen 4 and rocket la->1440p>doom eternalI guess that makes sense? That's still weird.
>>108918021upgrade cpu for gaming is severely overrated, it only makes sense when you buy a x3d chip, but if you have a 5800x3d 7800x3d 9800x3d it makes no sense to upgrade until ddr6
I just want to say that the Fractal North looks pretty but it's also kind of annoying, I recently built a PC for a friend using this case.There is no way to neatly hide the cables for the CPU cooler, except shove them under the fan that's between the two towers. The area over the front HDD caddy is open, so you can see the HDD or just a hole with some of the PSU cables shoved there. The top air filter comes off way too easily, it should have had a thumbscrew.
if your 1% lows aren't going below 60fps then you probably don't need to upgrade cpu if you're a gaymer
For fuck's sake I only bought this 5070 because it had DP 2.1
>>108918069those kangaroo fuckers are drama queens
>>108918069did you even watch the video
>>108917093>77 inch LG G5I should have perhaps specified that I'd like to buy something no bigger than 27 to 32 inches to maximize sharpness and screen real estate balance at a distance
Wtf, since when did OLED monitors become affordable? >not 4K google liedStill cool I guess. Cheaper than a new CPU for sure. Would have probably been good for my eyes for the last 7 years of night time gaming with the yanks, but this is too niche compared to IPS for me. I'd prefer to use it all the time instead sparingly of like my CRT.
what is with americans are their inability to post an image on the correct orientation?
>>108918091it only looks wrong if you're living in australia
>>108918061the top shouldn't have an air filter, it's an exhaust
>>108918088just wait for penta-tandem qd-oled 1440p monitors later this year
>>108918088nobody can afford a nice computer to drive those oled displays anymore so they're constantly on sale
>>108918102>just wait for
>>108918106>nobody can afford a nice computer to drive those oled displays anymoreI was gonna say just play old games on them but then we had CRTs for that
>>108918109this time I am not even memeing for the first time oled is worth getting with the better panel techwait for computex 2026 in about a week from now for the new monitors to be unveiled
God why is choosing a general purpose monitor have to be so hard these daysI just want something I can use in broad daylight and reasonably in the evening for workstation tasks and games with priority on picture quality and eye health
>>108918106a 5070ti or a 9070xt can play any game made before 2020 at like 200fps
>>108913739When is the new Gundam coming out
>>108914248>like 1080 or 1440 ideally5060 Ti
>>108918100Fair enough, but it is an air filter, and it is annoyingly easy to remove. >>108918127Dell U2724DE or anything similar from Dell.>120Hz, high-contrast IPS with more than enough brightness >Ambient light sensor with adaptive colour temperature >Thunderbolt dock, KVM, 2.5Gb Ethernet, DP output for a second monitor or 4k TV with a USB-C to HDMI dongle
>>108918127just look for one of those older 32" 4k IPS 165hz or newer 240hz monitors my man
>>108918069Why are these VESA-Certified DP80 DP 2.1 Cables so expensive they're like 30 dollarsNext thing I know getting a more modern router that isn't from 2015 for my 4G LTE SIM card and a new ethernet cable is gonna cost me hundreds
>tfw still using a cat 5 and 4 ethernet cable to my TL-MR3420 v2 router and E3372 modemJust what kind of improvements to cellular internet speeds am I missing out on here?
>>108918175Between zero and none.
>>108918157I bought the cable matters 2m dp80 cable from Amazon for $20 a piece and it works just as advertised
Graphics peaked with the 7th gen, we've never needed anything better lookingModern GPUs are for 3D fags who want to make animations or run AI.
>>108913602would still fuck them
>>108918236>Between zero and none.Fairly certain that I can't even saturate gigabit ethernet with a cat5 cable without problems, besides what's wrong with buying a newer router like a TP-LINK Archer MR500 and testing speeds, and returning it if it does nothing?
>>108918304>Fairly certain that I can't even saturate gigabit ethernet with a cat5 cable without problemsAnon, you'd be surprised how much you can get away with when your cable runs are short.
>>108918317>>108918317>>108918317>>108917714Yes
>>108918304>>108918316For context I run 2.5Gb on the shittiest unshielded cat5 cables you've seen and it's perfectly fine since the cables are between 10 and 15m long.
>>108914595>waitcucks eternally being BTFOi lmao @ ur procrastinating life.
>>108918355Alright that's cool but I was thinking more about network speeds on the internet and not my intranet
>>108918369Same thing, what other cables are there except between your 4G modem and router and your router and PC?
>>108918362>ur procrastinating life.Didn't have to do me dirty like that
I changed my cat 5 cable to cat 8 and I remember running the internet speedtest and it got higher numbers
My internet downloads 16 terabytes por segundo
I bought Door Kickers, it was on sale on steam.I also got like. uh. Let me check lol something on gog.Not TonightCapitalism Plus Warhammer 40,000: Mechanicus - Omnissiah Edition
>>108918369Your Internet speed is slower than your intranet speed. If you don't have any improvement locally, you won't have one externally.