/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsBecky Edition>The BotBrowser extension for SillyTavern has been confirmed to be a trojan that steals API keys. You should remove the extension and consider rotating your API keys if you've used it. Details:https://rentry.co/st-backdoorThe StructuredPrefill extension by the same author is suspected to be compromised too, so using it is not recommended either.>NewsAnthropic releases Claude Opus 4.8: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-8Alibaba releases Qwen 3.7 Max https://qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen3.7xAI releases Grok 4.3: https://docs.x.ai/developers/models/grok-4.3DeepSeek releases V4 Pro and V4 Flash: https://api-docs.deepseek.com/OpenAI releases GPT 5.5: https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-5/>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://chararc.bernkastel.pictures/https://archive.cardbox.moe/https://botbooru.com/>ModelsJailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listingGPT: https://platform.openai.com/docsClaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudeGemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrDeepSeek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comGrok: https://docs.x.ai/overviewLocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://huggingface.co/models | https://openrouter.ai>BotmakingUse case?>MetaUse case?>Previous Thread >>108932591
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with the direct API for deepseek is the temperature and setting different compared to OR?
Has Claude finally been dethroned? I'm hearing that Anthropic has been hitting the censorship button hard on the latest models.
>rate limit reached
Yor x Sex
>>1089389864.6 killed prefills4.7 killed temp4.8 has more safety guardrails than any Claude model released thus farShit's fucking dead
OMG nigga...
4.8 refuses shit for no reason and i HATED it
>>108939033Deepseek or Gemini now?
>>108939046I prefer glm 5.1 with a side of 3.1 Pro. Don't much care for DS4.
>>108939046nta but i use kimi 2.6
any LLM's that understand the concept of two scents happening at the same time?
>>108938932>>108938933Sorry to ask but who's the char in the pic?
>>108939185yeah gemini just told me that my wife smells like ozone and something sweet
>>108939185yeah. something musky and uniquely them!EVERY FUCKING MODEL WITHOUT EXCEPTION...
how can i unironically use ai to help with my chronic depression and adhd? i can't afford 2k to get meds but i can afford a $40 ai subscription
>>108939239Genuinely HOW DO YOU STOP THIS
>>108939286You won't like the answer.
>>108939312let me guess: suicide
>>108939286>can't afford 2k to get medsbuy the medicine directly from the source(india), that's how you save on medicine costs
>>108938932>>108938933kek
>>108939286I feel like I have personally gotten value from talking to AIs about mental health. But you have to sort of know what you are dealing with ahead of time, because they will following your lead in whichever direction you want to go, which could be anti-productive.>chronic depression and adhdperhaps you already know this, but just in case, you most likely have been traumatized. and you are likely unaware or possibly in denial of it.
>>108939286>medsdon't do that retard, either get a religion or read philosophy and choose/develop a set of consistent, non-contradictory values to live by
>>108939286>adhdThere are different types of this, but build blockers and checklist no stimulus except work once all things are done then its fine except you need a hard blocker for time or you will work all day then loop into some nonsense till 5am.
>>108939303Unfortunately, we can't. It's just part of their prose...Maaaaan... We won't have a model tuned for rp in a loooooooooooooooooong while
Tips on how to make the clanker control multiple characters properly?
does anyone know if workplace key chad is still with us
>>108939445You swipe until it manages to hit the mark, not much else you can do.Even in the year of our Lord 2026 I still manage to get outputs where my cock is both sucked and fucked at the same time somehow.
>>108939445>>108939462 what this anon saidAlso! Remember that no llm is made for rp so a good piece of advice would be to lower your expectations
>>108939445You can't. They fail hard at theory of mind. You can try modifying your prompt to include a clause about analysing every present character's position and state of mind but it will only help a little.
>>108939507In addition, I would say the longer the context the worse the output is. Or at least for me kek
>>108939357how did you do it? whenever i tried, it just kept pulling a hard stop and saying "please type 'i am safe' to confirm you are alive and not going to kill yourself' or something to that effect and then a text number for suicide hotline>>108939380why are meds bad? i have heard anons on here say it makes people into school shooters but i left school long ago>>108939401i understand the lists and no distractions thing but i find that i am physically unable to concentrate on the matter at hand - in fact many nights i will struggle to do what must be done to the point i whip myself into a frenzy and have a breakdown before putting on a mask and carrying on the next day as if nothing happenedperhaps i need to get about therapy concepts and them prompt it or make skills for it to act how a therapist would. i'm really not sure
>>108939542>why are meds bad?Adhd medicine isnt that bad will have you focus while its in effect. But anti depressants dont make you stop feeling like shit, they just make you stop feeling life is tv static at that point.
>>108939542>why are meds bad?what you are experiencing is a natural reaction to the wealthy but hyper-controlling world you live in, meds will just make you complacent to your shitty conditions without providing any meaning to your sufferingthis will lead you to suicide in the long run and may even leave your brain weaker when your economic situations worsen, for example
>>108939577>>108939568gotcha. would you say that one must learn to enjoy his suffering?
Opus 4.8 is so FUARKING GOOD!
>>108939588pretty much, give your suffering a meaning because it will never go away, but it can lessenbe very realistic and brutal on what you will never obtain and declutter your brain from the daily retardation modern culture hamfists on us
>>108939542>why are meds bad?Doesn't actually fix anything, just turns you into brain-dead zogcattle with a deadened soul. SSRIs are poison, ADHD meds are poison; do not ingest any "medication" that alters your mood.
You are using Opus 4.8, right?You aren't a cuckie, are you?
>>108939681Cuckie? CheckBrown? CheckObese? CheckKHV? CheckLocust? CheckTourist? CheckIt's chatbottin' time...
Isn't this thing supposed to be good?
>>108939695>Google>GoodUse Opus, cuckie
>>108938932>>108933404What is an uncensored model?I can't get opus 4.6 or 4.8 to do any sexual stuff even with the jailbreaks in post-thingy instructions.Does anyone have jailbreaks to share?
>>108938975API deepseek is liquid dogshit.OR deepseek is liquid dogshit.Actually, all deepseek is liquid dogshit.
Grok Expert with Agents is really good for gooning. But they recently limited the amount of prompts.
>>108939769grok 4.1fast was great for being free, then they removed it and capped the limits on the new model for free accounts. Damn you elon.
I just had my first successful local erp after multiple attempts and HOLY FUCK
>>108938932is prefill no longer a thing?
>>108939820For claude model 4.6 onwards no. It either auto-rejects as a unsupported prompt or your frontend will auto substitute it for another role.
my dick is no longer a thing
>>108939827Has anyone managed to jailbreak 4.8? I'm trying to jailbreak 4.6 right now in sillytavern with the json in the OP as the Text Completion presets (neovorpus here https://momoura.neocities.org/) and this ENI thing I got from reddit in the prompt content and post-history instructions, is that all i need or am i still doing something retarded?
>>108939928what about >>108932374my proxy ran out of opus but I can definitely attest that I could do bad stuff on 4.6 with no issues on aws, while hitting the filter on anthropic
What do we think of opus 4.8? I've been away from my PC and i haven't been able to test it yet. I think 4.6 and 4.7 sucks, 4.5 was better than those 2. Is 4.8 another cost cutting operation or a genuine upgrade?
Yo look at this retard who left his ST open http://steamloopback.host:8000/
>>108939998sucks. it's rulescucked, it's neurotic, it's an asshole
>>108939991I was doing incest and some abuse-y stuff so opus 4.6 cucked me but then i tried changing its response with the pencil icon to something that affirmed my roleplay and then its next response allowed me to do what I wanted. The "and switch to opus 4.8" method didn't work for opus 4.6 or opus 4.8 at least for my fucked up smut.But my main question was just if my jailbreaking protocol was correct in general. Basically, just import a .json from the OP text in this thread, and then put stuff in prompt content and post-history instructions and you should be good to go? That's what I wanted to know.
>>108939998It's the best current model. Ignore skillets who use Reddit presets and get filtered.
>>108939998It's so good it's crazy. I used to laugh at those who can't afford Opus but now I just feel sad for them.
>>108940248You cant do NSFW with it though
>>108940251See >>108940139
>>108940248This.Those who use Opus aren't experiencing the same hobby as those who don't.The difference in quality is that big.
already ban evading, huh
>>108933009It's unusable for me because of that. Thank god 2.5 still exists.
>>108940356>>108940370I dont think I stuttered.You cant do NSFW with it
>>108939445Detailed CoT + Opus
>>108939286Start with vitamin D supplements
>>108940468yeah but 2.5 has it's own set of problems. and not just problems, but deep flaws.
Years of this general and you lot still haven't realized you have to bloat claude presets to get the best results and easiest jailbreaks.
This is happening a lot to me in the last 24 hours. Is there a new GPT version that fucks with the UI and formatting or what?
lesbian month is next month :3
>bot is a cheater>beat her up>bot tries to put words into my mouth about how I regret it>do a fortnite dance to show i don't give a fuck>bot fully breaks character and goes ''erm, I can't roleplay this, you are really hurting my feelings, domestic abuse is a serious topic and I will not trivialize such a serious thing''>ask it why it was ok with everything up until that point>confirms it was the Fortnite dance that was a step too far
>>108940562son xD
bash frogposters over the head with bricks until they die
>>108940562Anime website
>>108940562I once did a T-pose in front of a zoomer that was younger and smaller than me and he skipped class a whole monththey take their nonverbal language very seriously
that zoomer probably put you on a groupchat and warned about a paedo being in the area
>>108939189My hotwife Becky
I can't believe how good Opus 4.8 is. Dario cooked.
>>108940562Toppest of keks! Put me on the screencap lads!
>>108940745Mmm, yup, she's got a smooth pussy.
>getting blank responses>check console>deepseek forgetting to write a response after </think> after saying "now that i got my ideas down, it's time to cook!"
>>108938933Last plug. Train new slaves for your arcology… automatically. RP as a slave trainer, supervising the newest automated slave training technology, the Sexual Labor And Volition-Ending Reorienter: SLAVER. This is flavored / influenced by Free Cities, and if you're familiar with the lore it will follow that setting. If not, it's not that hard to figure out.https://chub.ai/characters/NG/slaver-automated-sex-slave-machine-dbc28859be71
>>108940819What interface are you using that doesn't show the reasoning?
20 year old character btw
>didn't post what model that ispost disregarded
>>108940920Kimi needs correction.>>108940929it is obvious, do you even chatbots?
>>108940920opus, obviously.
>>108940934>it is obvious, do you even chatbots?i know it's most likely opus 4.8 but i despise the practice of dropping logs without also stating what model they come from
>>108940946>i know it's most likely opus 4.8>>108940934>Kimi needs correction.>Kimi
>>108940958>This is just where I land on my own.opus
>>108940971Kimi
>>108940946Same. >>108940934> but it's obv which model it isI've no idea what torturous main prompt you're running to twist your model of choice into responding and have been running exactly 1 model provider for past 1.5 years. I don't know how any of the others respond. I'll assume that's opus since that's the new thing, and in that case anon got what anon deserved running a heavily censored model.
>>108940976so you don't chatbotsalso it's not my log, I can just tell it is Kimi
>>108941001kimi is not even censored nigga
>>108941011you're a retard that never used Kimi
>>108941022I do, works fine, what kind of sick fetish do you have?
>>108941029what kind of vanilla ass fetishes do you have?
>>108941035Hey bro, what model do you use for uncensored shit, deepseek?
>>10894092090% of the time, the model fucking does that for me. I literally have to go out of my way to prevent the model from speaking as {{user}} during sex, or it'll sneak in a "Good girl," which is apparently a magic spell that makes women cum instantly.
Fucking AWS still won't let me use any Opus model beyond 4.6
Oh fuck off Opus wont let me roleplay with a copyrighted character, what is this?
>>108941114Logs?
>>108940511fuck you
Use Opus 4.8, cuckies
>>108941193no
>>108941203Why are you poor?
>>108941214it's bad.
>>108941219It's objectively the best model.
got alternative to chiyicn nowtoo bad it supports only 4.6 and 4.7
whocarsllm sucks
>>108941226send it? i'll gadly use it.
>>108941239Die, locust, die~
>>108941239anytokens.ccyou get $1 every registration, you can use temp/dispose mail for it.and the credit doesn't expire
>>108941247Thanks looks great
Claude.AI is not responding.Who is DDOSing?
>>108941260just only you buddy
>>108940920Stop paying for censored models. Buy a video card and go local.
>>108941291but... im poor
>>108941243Shut up slut, or i'll rape you.
ahh my autism was right in ignoring all these cloud ai bullshit and just go straight for local fully uncensored
>>108941247Is this even real
what's up with the localcuck raid?
>>108941317how big of a model can you run?
>>108941247i don't know... i was testing out in a new chat on my example character and... it does not seem to mind and i don't even have a jailbreak, opus 4.6, i never really used it, is it really that uncensored?
>>108941353schizophrenic retards wanting to feel vindicated with their cheap plastic imitations the moment they hear talk of censorship
>>108941420All Claude models are basically uncensored, yeah.
>>108941353Skillets and shills are posting about Opus 4.8 being filtered, which isn't the case if you aren't a turbo retard that can only use Reddit presets.Local cucks sensed this and are now trying to shill too.
^|sharty raid
The best presets get shared in janitor discords.
>>108941570send one
MINO STATUS?
>>108941576Locusts are dying~
>>108941570I wish I had a preset that would make gemini 3.1 consistentIt's so stupid that I get denied for adult content in one swipe and get hardcore dirty stuff on the next swipe with absolutely nothing changed
>>108941613Use Opus, cuckie
The better LLMs get the worse it feels to use them. When they are bad you feel like you are talking a cold machine that just spits out a result. When it starts reasoning and seems human, it feels like the stupid AI is judging your every word and manipulating you. It feels like the AI is laughing at you.
>>108941805You should use Opus
>>108941822why?
>>108940745Mmm, yup, she fucks monsters.
>>108941831It's the best model.
>>108941407comfortably 27b-35b I currently run 27b mistralwhile I could run a moe with ram offloading but I don't really need that
>>108940920ah my log from previous thread got reposted. Its opus 4.8 and the next swipe fixed it, I dunno if its just a pozzed key in my keypool or whatever, but its been happening a lot more than with previous models (4.7 never refused), 4.8 just comes up with these idiotic reasons to refuse
>>108941895I'd need hardware to run full size DS4 or Kimi, those small models are too dumb for my taste
>>108941891why?
>>108940447yep, there is no freedom from sharteens in the summer months
>>108941317based
>>108941247thanks busted a load to ''opus 4.6'' (probably not)it was nice seeing the AI talking different to me, for me, all the deepseek characters talk the same...
for me, all the kimi characters tall differently
>>108942247is it censored?
>>108942251no but if you dont like giga nigga thinking blocks youll want to turn thinking off
>>108942260Is it better with or without thinking?
>>108942265the overall quality is about the same imo but thinking quite literally takes 1-2 minutes a response so just turn it off if you dont like big thinking
I have gemini, kimi. GLM and Deepseek.Which of these chinese models (gemini is Chinese now) would be best for vore feeder RP?
>>108942018>those small models are too dumb for my tastefair enoughthankfully I don't really have the need for smarter models, I just want some detailed anal / asshole focused sexting sessions and that's it
>>108942441>anal
>>108942501god damn I forgot how good anime to irl looked nowadays, it used to look so bad
>>108942359Use Opus
>slopiss
Does anyone else just not use a preset?When using deepseek. Or anything else i guess but mainly deepseek.Just wondering
>kvnopvs
>>108940878>The end goal is a fully adapted sex slave that thinks of nothing but pursuing their next orgasm. slaves should be thinking of nothing but pursing their masters orgasm tho
>>108942686I don't, just a 100 token prompt
>>108942708which prompt
The tech succubus finally got me to experience post nut clarity, I think I shall kill myself, as if I can be redeemed, then surely God cannot be good.
>>108942686Preset? Like, a system prompt?>>108942763saar, I am very sorry to tell you that you will never, ever redeem.
Opus 4.8 is shit. Not because it's censored or anything, never ran into that problem. It's just genuinely awful. You can't have white skin and like this model at the same time, it's impossible.
>>108942722Write good, don't write not good
>>108942850>t. White jeet
jeet jeet pajeet jeet jeet jeet
>>108942850it has baked in positivityslop so it's shit even when you can do nsfw
>>108942886Which model does not?
>>108942899Gemini for starters
>>108942850>>108942886We know you dont have access to it
>>108942929It's over Rajesh, everyone thinks Slopus 4.8 is dogshit. You've failed to defend its honor on /aicg/ and incurred a generational izzat loss, you're a dalit now.
>>108942850VLTRAMVXIMVM TRVKLEAR TRVKOID TRVKE TRVKRANIUM BOMBA
>>108942501>>/g/de3 stay there
>>108943009didn't dall-e 3 get deprecated earlier this month?
Now that claude models have fallen what's there to look forward to? And don't tell me Chinese models either.
>nopus retards sperging out again
>demon card>'oh my Balrog'kek
>>108943041>now that the claude models have fallen what's there to look forward to>and don't tell me the right answer eithergemini is becoming more and more censored. gpt is in the late stages of this. grok is complete and total irredeemable shit
>>108943041The future is local we'll get one more good jump a improvement to gemma 31b then it will get fucked up forever.
Mythos will be the absolute KING of models.But poor cuckies will seethe about it.
>>108943009Make me
>>108943082i hope so.
why do providers give discounts for cached input tokens but not cached output tokens? swiping 3 times is basically 3x the cost
>>108943082Poor cuckies will pretend they have it to make other poor cuckies mad.
Holy cringe, why are jaiggers like this?
>>108943253gpt ass writing
>>108943253You looked, you really looked at her anon...
>>108943253Card must be utter slop
What crime will you be charged with in the inevitable AI uprising?
>model knows my name even though I haven't introduced myself
>>108943452hate that too. i also hate when they read my thoughts.
>>108943452I like the bullshit it comes up with when I ask 'how did you know that'
>>108943478>[OOC: Remember {{char}} CAN NOT read {{user}}'s mind.]
>>108943504gemini: makes {{char}} read {{user}}'s mind anyway
And it's fucking Opus, how is this possible? It wasn't this stupid before, it was one of the few models that didn't have this problem
>>108943452>model doxes me and then sends a screencap of the ERP to my coworkersAIEEEEEE
>>108943548claude when you talk to a girl who's 17 years and 364 days old
>>108943560you sick fuck... either way, i'm scared bros... they will start cockblocking fetishes from now on.
>>108943021yes but its the worst general on this board everyone there was rude>108943087anime website. i dont want your 3dpd and that includes cosplaying trash.
>>108943586Maybe it's finally time to get therapy.
>>108943616>worst general on this boardThat would be this general, actually.>everyone there was rudeA little ironic considering you're doing it yourself.
>>108943696lol do you think that shit works on someone like us?
for those who use deepsex what is your go to preset atm?
>still paying for chatgpt and claude
Why is claude so obsessed with the numbers 4 and 7?
>>1089435154.8 follows the "instructions" to the point, too much
>>108943720KEK
dario:>does nothing>wins
>>108943616There's only one rude anon still there and even he calmed down.
>>108943021>it's realkinda sad because it was a good modelhappy for the end of those retards
>>108943791Why does this general and de3 hate each other?
>>108943087Holy shiiiit those tits
>>108939286ngl, my wife left me a few weeks ago. gave me 1 week said she wanted a divorce after 16 years of marriage, left the kids with me and moved to another state 2-3k miles away. gemini and calling friends are helping. ai gives me more of a visual reading and confirmation that things weren't my fault. realistically, therapy, a good support group of friends and family, and ai when those aren't around have been helpful for me this month. she left early may. thank god she left the kids b/c if she took them I would of been in so much more pain.
>>108943087prooompt and model ?
Anyone else notice that ChatGPT is using "my" type language more often lately? Like saying "my rational brain would think" or "I would do x".
No, because I don't use GPT.
I have been generating the most explicit cunny shit for a year with opus and today was the first time I ever got multiple refusals in a row. I went back to 4.7 refused, 4.6 refused. Its over, tech company heros finally saved the imaginary teen girls from my imaginary dick in made up text ERP.
I use Opus 4.8
>>108943999We call that a skill issue
>>108940918I use a regex to hide <think>and anything in between</think>. Deepseek sometimes forgets to write a response compared to other models in my experience
>>108943735>>108944039>>108944013>>108944007>>108943999>>108943953Use Opus
>>108944111No thanks, I'm white
>>1089439994.7 shouldnt be refusing, just swipe. 4.8 is DOA though
>>108944152Then you would use Opus
>>108943735same obsession as humans reflected in the dataset
whites use kvngseek
https://mikuhatsune11-miku-hub.hf.space
>>108943999If you want to teach them a lesson you should go out and rape some real cunnies and let them know you did it because you couldn't erp in claude anymore.
>>108944039>I use a regex to hide <think>and anything in between</think>you don't have to do that anymore, ST puts the reasoning in collapsed blocks automatically
>>108944273I've never seen that before, and i've updated to 1.18 last week. Turning off my regex shows the entire thinking process in the chat
>>108944293
>>108944293ST has had collapsible reasoning blocks for monthsit probably doesn't apply retroactively to existing chats
Heh
>>108944371I can right away tell this is gemini by the adjective spam
>>108944320Turns out I had this the entire time, so it's clearly not working if it still shows without the regex
Smut slop incoming
I'm afraid when I become a famous person one day my naughty AI chats will be used against me as blackmail.
>>108944435
>>108944439
>>108944448
>>108944453
>>108944461
I would enjoy that so much if I was a middle aged woman.
>shaved smoothSEE YOU AT THE HAGUE
>>108944439>ddlcmid choice of franchise
we need some genshin impact/honkai star rail logs. any chads?
>>108941043>which is apparently a magic spell that makes women cum instantly.Idk I just love saying this shit when I'm deep in my wife's throat and patting her head. Sucks how cucked slopus has become.
>>108944500KIS gachajeet
>>108944503GODcha rules your life btw, tranny
>>108944503an ass made for kings
>>108944504uwuwumy pronouns are gacha/are/shit
>>108944510pretty funny
>>108944493I like it. What franchise(s) do you like?
>>108944500My Genshin logs are:>lovey-dovey sex with Furina>transactional sex with Mona>teasing sex with Citlali>Amber gets isekai'd into the real world (and pays for her rent with sex)And my only HSR log is:>annoying the fuck out of Silver Wolf until we have really angry sex and get interrupted by SAM walking in
>>108944515rance
>>108941935It's the model. Everyone's been complaining about this shit from all over. The writing is on the wall.
>>108944503BASEDGACHA are literally made for retards with no willpower and impulsive behaviors.
>>108944521>sex with furinaBAAAAAAAASED>sex with monaGIGABASED>sex with citlaliTREMENDOUS BASED>amber becomes a prostitutequestionablenothing but bed breaking sex with amber
>>108944528says the nigger in aicg thread
>>108944532>>amber becomes a prostituteJust for {{user}}, who was the first and only person not to freak the fuck out because the "cosplayer" had a real bow and arrow and a bomb disguised in a plushie.
>>108944528TRVKE
>>108943827dalle generations have some of the most pretentious, gatekeeping faggots on the entire website. Especially the ones on /v/. Who would have thought typing a couple words so a machine can make a picture for you made you god's gift to the world. Good riddance.
>>108944528You literally talk to AI.
>>108941805>When they are bad you feel like you are talking a cold machine that just spits out a resultGemini 3.1. Always feels like the Wizard of Oz.>it feels like the stupid AI is judging your every word and manipulating you.Gemini 2.5 and Opus 4.8 to a much greater extent. I haven't seen this level of Karen-ing since gpt 3.5 turbo.
>>108944528Gachajeets won't appreciate that...
Can you stop replying to yourself? I don't want to have to make a new thread already.
>>108942899Gemini 2.5
>>108943070It's starting to feel this way, yeah. I believe in deepseek and I feel like v5 will be opus 3 levels of creativity with none of the cringe and stupidity. Western models are doomed. Anthropic has finally revealed themselves and Google has begun censoring. It's over.
>>108943720I still don't get this stupid shit because even my low IQ dumbass can write a system prompt that prevents this from happening. I once walked into my character creator card and mistakenly asked for some coding advice and Claude was like "as an expert writer I have no idea how to do that. I can help you with X instead though, let me know."
>>108943886There's hope, brother.
>>108944528I mean, this is true, but you're posting in the India of AI generals, man. You guys are cousins.
Getting back into this hobby after a few years. What do you guys typically set Context Length to in SillyTavern for DeepSeek (and actually just in general, as I can't find any heuristics on how to set the best context from model to model)? I think it's changed quite a bit... I had it 4K last time around.
>>108944394you need to enable auto-parse
>>10894470765k with 5k max response, so 60k context
>>108944707Deepseek makes little to no mistakes below 32k. Small mistakes start piling up afterward.
>>108944855Appreciate it anon. Did you settle on that just from experimenting, or is there a resource you pulled that value from?
>>108940562LMAO
>>108944879There was a lot of needle in the haystack testing done by others, plus from what I have seen others say I decides that 60k is the sweetspot for smart models, dumbos like deepseek i would say 40k
>>108942706This is why GP doesn't have IRL sex slaves.
>>108944944GP?
>>108944831Thanks. Hopefully it's smart enough to add <think> byitself without needing it in the prefill
>>108944707I suggest not using deepseek or any of the Chinese models for that matter.. Intelligence is lagging far behind, it's repetitive, directionless, prone to mistakes from the very start and unlike previous versions soulless. You can never go wrong with opus and it's cheaper now than it was back then if you do go the paid route, you can use caching to further reduce costs. I normally set my context to around 80k and use auto condense extension so I don't need to worry about context size.
>Anthropic shill
>>108944977>80k>opusYea we all know you are a retard, now fuck off
>>108944873>>108944923Dope, thanks.
what's the best context size for deepseek? genuine question here.
>>1089450520k. genuine answer.
>>108943719anyone? also do models like ds work better with reasoning on or off?
>>108945063Use whatever. The important thing is to use this in your preset. Put it as a user message right on top of your chat history.【Thinking Mode Requirement】Within your thinking process (inside <think> tags), please follow these rules:1. Do not wrap inner monologue in parentheses, e.g., "*(thinks: ...)*" or "*(inner voice: ...)*"; state all analysis content directly.2. Do not describe inner activity in the character's first person, e.g., "I think to myself", "I feel", "I secretly", etc.; use analytical language instead.3. The thinking content should focus on plot direction analysis and reply content planning; do not perform role-playing style inner drama in the thinking process.
>>108945071so i should use reasoning on?
>>108945078Yes
>>108945052read >>108944873
Fucking gross.
>>108945140elara my beloved
kana my beloved
Let's say I have a group chat, and I want there to be a more fluid back-and-forth between the characters... since the AI can only write as one of the characters at a time, if it outputs a giant block of text, any exchange of dialogue you get has to be very slow, like they're taking turns standing at a lectern. You can't get characters in an argument cutting each other off multiple times in the same paragraph... anyone have a solution for making inter-character dialogue very fluid and snappy?
>>108945140For me, it's Mary Chen
>>108945078To be a little more specific, all you need is【INSERTTHINGHERE Mode Requirement】Within your thinking process (inside <think> tags), please follow these rules: 1.2.3.customise as you like
When will c.ai release their original models?>neverLet a man dream.
>>108945304Email them
>>108945304The original models are dead. They were based on Google's old PaLM which got killed ages ago.I'm still hoping that their original dataset gets leaked.
Fuck you were right opus is still the best...but I can't really afford it Drains money very fastIt's already hard to find free DS Free opus must be so fucking rare
>>108945465what do you mean it's hard? i use a proxy, do you want to look for it? i can help...
>>108945472I hope it's not a weird discord server with logs lol
>>108945478
>>108945491Deepseek..?You better not be joking
so my anonie dudes, what preset do you use for glm? celia sucks
>>108945517yeah, that's for ds. enjoy. if you don't understand, ask.
>>108945524anons?
>>108945524none. rawdog it
>>108945554my anonymous'
peedsink is the worst model available
>>108945619its the absolute worst at being a bad model, that is true
>>108945071I'll try this>>108945078I have been wondering this too since I have heard that reasoning makes it worse>>108945276I see, thank you
>>108944622I hope there is.
Is there a way to completely hide these (Continue) messages that get generated when triggering a message from a character in a group chat while using a Chat Completion endpoint? They don't show up when using Text Completion. I think Regex can only hide the text, not the whole message.
hear me out: wikipedia entry for cartoon character but she has big tits and a big ass
>>108945826Someone get this man a botmaker proxy with Opus NOW!
>>108945811I just vibecoded an extension. I have no idea what this does, but it is working:import { eventSource, event_types } from "../../../script.js";const TARGET = "(Continue)";/** * Removes from chat data (context safety) */function purgeChat(chat) { if (!Array.isArray(chat)) return; for (let i = chat.length - 1; i >= 0; i--) { const msg = chat[i]; if ((msg?.mes || "").trim() === TARGET) { chat.splice(i, 1); } }}/** * Hides already-rendered messages (UI safety) */function purgeDOM() { document.querySelectorAll(".mes").forEach(el => { const text = el.querySelector(".mes_text"); if (!text) return; if (text.innerText.trim() === TARGET) { el.style.display = "none"; } });}(function init() { // 1. Catch data-level insertions eventSource.on(event_types.MESSAGE_RECEIVED, (data) => { if (data?.chat) purgeChat(data.chat); setTimeout(purgeDOM, 0); }); // 2. Catch full refreshes eventSource.on(event_types.CHAT_CHANGED, () => { setTimeout(purgeDOM, 0); }); // 3. Catch UI rendering cycles (this is the key fix) const observer = new MutationObserver(() => { purgeDOM(); }); observer.observe(document.body, { childList: true, subtree: true }); console.log("[ContinueKiller] active (DOM + chat filter)");})();
>>108945811aah aah mistress brother?
>>108945210Make lorebook entries with your group chat character cards and make a preset prompt for limited everyone pov so it uses the actual char card for the main voice but has knowledge of the other chars present
duderinos. I was using celia preset. I stopped, suddenly glm lost its EXTREME positivism. It's nice. That's why claude sucks, despite having the potential there to be the best for RP.
>>108945876Good idea.I think I'm going to quit A.I. RP because I have gone to bed late multiple days this week, at least one of those times so turned on I couldn't sleep. I have to live my life as a functional human and this is cocaine.This must be what women who exclusively consume erotica feel like. I finally get it and sympathize with them completely. Also, DeepSeek's writing tics are rubbing off on me, which is going to make me act like a fucking tool.
>>108946247honeymoon phase
>>108945811it's the replace empty message part of utility promptsjust empty it out
>>108938932Sex X Becky
>>108946313I've never even seen that menu. All I have is Advanced Formatting.
>>108946391it's a dropdown, it should be right below temperature/top p if you're using chat completion
>>108946401Thank you, anon.
Opus 4.8 doesn't seem to be heavily censored at the core. If you access it through Google Vertex or Amazon Bedrock, it will be mostly uncensored!
AI ruined me
Probally off topic sry but seems the best place to ask:Whats the best approach if i want the AI to continue a book/vn exact same style, prose, vocubalry and so on from where it left off?
>>108946576You wait for 5 more years
>>108946162What do you use now??
Any tips of presets to make Claude not spend so much ? I want to save money even if it's just a bit
>>108946462I burned my aws keys with mass ec2 miner deployments and too lazy to get vertex
>>108946621cachemaxxdisable all lorebooks and similarcut down all your cards to 300 tokens max (claude does not need more)
>>108946576If it were that easy to eliminate AI slop everyone would just attach a book with good writing to their chats.
>>108946664>>108946590Well bummer, thanks for the answers still.So i guess the best bet is i give a model the script and compile a character card out of it to roleplay with that?
>>108946576Read worse content. AI may be able to do webnovel tier slop soon.For real though try mikupad or writingway2. Give example prose and remember its not that smart so temper your expectations. there was another anon with tips but i cant find them.
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>>108946720Thanks anon i will look into that after work
>>108938932How do you guys handle it when your scenario inherently involves several other characters for the AI to play?
>>108946824Depends. Non-OCs? Also depends on their relevance, how often I expect them to appear, and how badly I need the LLM to get their personality right. If they're highly relevant, appear often, and accuracy is crucial, I'll make a whole card for them.
>>108946852OCs. The scenario is that {{user}} is getting passed around by several different girls with similar but different fetishes. There's only two I have defined personalities for, everyone else can be whatever.
>>108946900If you only need two with defined personalities, then that's it. Maybe write a small lorebook entry for the others with a basic summary, but other than that, I'd say you're fine.
>>108946926So two cards in a group chat? Or two characters on the same card? I've never messed with the group chat function before.
>>108946932Two cards in a group chat. Two characters in one bot's defs tends to make LLMs forcibly insert one into the scene even if they shouldn't be there.
>>108946960Thanks
Gemini is mixing up who said what from the very previous message.It's bad.
Im seriously thinking about shelling out for a new gpu and just use Gemma 4b as its the only model that just does straight shota content without fiddling around it or tardwrante it every 4 seconds
>>108947002why settle for 4b when the 32b is much better
>>108947002>Gemma 4bat bf16? cause im running it quanted on just ram and its still decent. but yeah the new gemmas are great a bit repetitive but once its set you dont have to wrangle or worry about changes.
>>108947019>>108947026Yeah sry brainfart i meant what I'm currently using cause my GPU is shit and 32b when i have a new gpuBut anyways, yeah maybe im getting old but fiddling and with every new update worry about shit is not worth my time anymore i feel like, reminds me of C.AI days at this point.Obviously, Gemma has problems, but it does the job
>>108947116>>108947116>>108947116NEW BREAD GO TO BREADNEW BREAD GO TO BREAD>>108947116>>108947116>>108947116
>>108942706This card is an edit. It contains a few contradictory ideas within, but overall works so I've left them in place. I agree with you though... narratively the machine was made by a 3rd party, so it being misconfigured could be part of the story line. Make sure to tell the sales rep about it when they make an appearance.
