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>it'd also be nice if you elaborated more on what you want to do with it
good idea. for dev work, im most fluent in C and will probably only be writing in C with it but I also use Go, Python, and Lua from time to time as well as webdev but for that it's just plain HTML with minimal CSS. On my main machine I use neovim but I am comfortable with and enjoy using nvi as well. I also often use Tor to protect my anonymity on some websites and to bypass any ISP blocks. I end up using my web browser often but have been looking at using w3m instead of a regular browser. shoutout to qutebrowser for vim users that shit fucking rocks on laptops when you dont wanna use the annoying ass trackpad. I also have done some light gaming on it, like playing Roblox with my partner and some incrementals (take that 108935873), granted it barely played but still. I also write stuff but I usually just use my code editor for that. wow this is a lot of writing woops

>>108936439
integrated gpu, like its not good at all for anything graphically intensive in the slightest.

>>108937471
isnt wayland more resource intensive than the x window system? i also hear sway isnt exactly the lightest. i have heard some good things about alpine though, although i dont exactly know what sets it apart from the others. i think your pretty good graphics is carrying you, firefox for example takes its sweet time opening up and when it does i can barely play my minesweeper.

other stuffs kinda not relevant

>>108935873
>nothing can be done with these machines at all.
explain how computers were used when this was the best they had then.

>>108936415
not to sound like a fag or whatever but i dont support e-waste or apple

>>108936465
again not to sound like a fag but arent security updates good?

>>108942277
>i went to a party
said no one who uses /g/ ever
>mobile data IPs are blocked from posting
false
>some of the networks i would have to connect to are WEP
what shithole are you from? i haven't seen WEP in the wild for a VERY long time.


with 4G of ram you really don't need to be that picky, idk why this'd need two threads but i admit i haven't seen the first one. i use my ol' 2008 thiccpad somettimes which has 2G of ram and it can run whatever

>>108942334
>said no one who uses /g/ ever
i usually use forums or other imageboards but for things like this i use 4chan
>false
oh maybe it was an unfortunate coincidence then
>what shithole are you from? i haven't seen WEP in the wild for a VERY long time.
my life is good and clean, i just dont live in an area with many technically literate people. ive been trying to help around where i can though
>with 4G of ram you really don't need to be that picky
i hate waiting and i want my laptop to be as performant as possible
>idk why this'd need two threads
it certainly doesnt but i wanted to respond to what people said in the first one. plus why not make another one? worst case scenario i bumped off the millionth post complaining about the jews or something
>i use my ol' 2008 thiccpad somettimes which has 2G of ram and it can run whatever
thats impressive, what os and software do you use if i may ask?

Install something Debian with a lightweight environment preconfigured on top like Bunsenlabs or Q4OS and use MPV with a custom yt-dlp config to fetch YouTube videos. That's as good as it gets.

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>>108942378
>oh maybe it was an unfortunate coincidence then
i don't shitpost on my phone often, but 4chan does allow it. because phone IPs are not constant and are shared, there's a higher chance you'll run into bans that aren't yours, including range bans. not really much you can do about that. outside of bans you can expect difficult captchas until you've posted for a while. over time your browser becomes more "trusted" via a cookie saved in your browser, so be sure you aren't using something that clears your cookies, otherwise you'll keep getting hard captchas as long cooldown timers.
>my life is good and clean, i just dont live in an area with many technically literate people. ive been trying to help around where i can though
suffice to say you should treat WEP as if it's unsecured. it was easy to crack 20 years ago (i know because i did it a few times back then), today it'd be trivial to say the least.
>thats impressive, what os and software do you use if i may ask?
it's just a matter of only running what you need to. my thiccpad generally runs fluxbox (x11), with palemoon for the browser. just gotta keep an eye on what uses memory and find alternatives if needed. like youtube for example, the official youtube website is heavy as shit, so i use youtube-local/yt-local for it instead, playing videos in mpv rather than in the browser.

if you don't have an ssd for it, get one. even a small one, anything is better than a hdd and it'll make any machine feel 10 years newer right there

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Debian stable + XFCE, disable the weird shit that comes with it like ibus and anthy and xiccd and all that input method crap, uninstall that crap,
then install zram-tools
disable the stupid compositor effects in window manager tweaks,
then it should be strong enough to run firefox and telegram.
If you can possibly upgrade the ram to 6GB that would help you a lot, then it would be totally strong enough to do a lot of daily life tasks.
I've got some shit old laptops working usably with this setup

>>108942277
Windows 7 and a bunch of pirated software from that era. Have 2-factor auth where you login and don't do banking on it. You're done.

>>108942502
>>108942516
its kind of funny how many times youtube has been mentioned. i've used yt-dlp for ripping audio from like soundcloud and whatever so i suppose it would be fun to incorporate this into my day to day

>you should treat WEP as if it's unsecured
yikes, how can i mitigate this?

>only running what you need to
>keep an eye on what uses memory and find alternatives if needed
writing this down

>fluxbox (x11), with palemoon for the browser
i remember having good experiences with these a while ago (not at the same time), maybe im due for another run with them lol

>if you don't have an ssd for it, get one
all the parts are soldered together unfortunately

>>108942590
this sounds like it's on the same level as debloating a windows 11 install, is there perhaps a distro that does some or all of this out of the box? and curious, how do you feel about systemd?

>telegram
im more of a simplex guy

>>108942603
shouout fmhy also does monero count as banking?

>>108942643
>yikes, how can i mitigate this?
don't use wep
>its kind of funny how many times youtube has been mentioned
it's always the first thing people use as a test
>all the parts are soldered together unfortunately
if it has soldered storage then it won't be a hdd

>>108942696
>>108942643
also, if it's soldered storage which is really low end, like some eMMC shit, you might want to take steps to minimise how much you write to it. while even the cheapest of flash storage is decent at reads, the shittiest of flash could have write speeds even worse than hdd's.
benchmark your storage. you should consider setting up zram swap to reduce storage I/O. it's a tradeoff that use more cpu time, so the ideal setup depends on what cpu and storage you have specifically. even if both the cpu and storage are really weak, you're still usually better off with zram set to a fast compression algorithm

>>108942746
-- like, if it were me who owned a machine with 4G of ram and garbage emmc storage, i'd actually consider if trading storage usage for memory usage was worthwhile. 4G may not sound like a lot, but other factors can mean avoiding it can hurt performance.
like for example /tmp and /var/tmp are often ramdiscs nowadays, and on low ram machines you might leave those on permanent storage instead to save ram... but if you have a shitty emmc for storage, you may end up better off leaving them in ram

>>108942696
>it's always the first thing people use as a test
ohh, that does make sense i suppose. even on my main computer it can take its sweet time. is there any other website/program that is good for testing this kind of stuff?

>if it has soldered storage then it won't be a hdd
i checked and apprently yeah its eMMC, which i have never heard about before so im going to go research that

>>108942746
>like some eMMC shit
you called it lol

>even the cheapest of flash storage is decent at reads
i have spare USBs, are you saying i should be using those? i have an sd slot too so maybe i could get one of those, i hear they go up to a terabyte these days.

>zram
i kinda got lost around here, but i will see about this. is it hard to set up?

>>108942782
i got lost reading this too but from what i gather is that i should be trying to use my ram as much as possible before that kind of stuff is written to the disk, right? how would i help with this?

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>>108942819
eMMC is short for "embedded multimedia card", multimedia card being the original name for what became SD cards. it's technically an ssd but it's the poorest form of ssd.
you could well get better storage performance from a usb drive or sd card if they're decent and the ports are decent.
>i kinda got lost around here, but i will see about this. is it hard to set up?
not really, there's tools that handle this for you. i've used for ages (since it was called compcache), so i've only done it manually. someone else is sure to know what the go-to tools are to use it easily.
basically it's a compressed ramdisc, that is, it's a drive where its' contents are compressed and stored in ram rather than using your storage.
>i got lost reading this too but from what i gather is that i should be trying to use my ram as much as possible before that kind of stuff is written to the disk, right? how would i help with this?
yea, like what people used to when hdd's were common, you'd try to minimise storage usage by keeping things in ram instead, put simply.

>>108942819
>>108942999
-- all things considered together, you need to work out where you bottlenecks are, and work around them.
that is, when things are slowing down, is it because your storage can't keep up? is it because your cpu is maxed out? or is it because you've run out of ram?
while blindly minimising all of them could work, you'll likely just end up over-compensating and missing out on things you'd like to run. like reducing memory usage won't help if your performance is shit because your storage isn't keeping up, and while zram swap costs more cpu time and ram than regular swap, that might not be better if your cpu is sitting idle while your emmc struggles to handle regular disc swap.

to get the most out of a limited machine you first have to understand where each limit is and use what you have, keep things balanced.

>>108942643
Maybe there's a distro that does it for you, but I've always just preferred installing a standard Debian Stable system and making necessary modifications, it's not that much work and you don't have to deal with the weirdness of using a special weird distro that barely anyone actually uses.
I don't mind systemd, it's nice that google (and chatgpt) knows a lot about it so it's easy to get help and answers when you need them.

>>108943115
if you're up for starting from a minimal install and installing just what you need, you really don't need any special distro for this, this: >>108942516 is just regular arch, with systemd, it'd be the same with debian.
some distros are different enough that they could be useful in some scenarios, such as say alpine linux, but op has 4G of ram, that's not a low amount of ram as far as considering alpine for ram reasons goes. if he had like 512M of ram then yea maybe try that instead

jannies should delete every post this schizo makes since banning doesn't work

>>108943389
Using Linux causes schizophrenia.

>>108942643
Youtube is the bare benchmark of usability for modern normie usage. If your hardware can't cope with VP9 is not worth the energy it consumes. Cause shit from 2011 could.