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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
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Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 250K, 14600K, 7/9600X, 7/9800X3D
-Budget: 225F, 7500F, 12600K
Workstation: 270K

*Avoid Ascrock motherboards on AM5
*New sockets likely next year
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates are mandatory, avoid second-hand

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-7, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
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>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt, 5060
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5070, 9070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti
High-end : 5070ti, 9070xt
-5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
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>MONITOR
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
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>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
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>Other helpful Links
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German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder
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>Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.
NOOOOOO, don't do that!
Trust me bro!
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https://youtu.be/XJMbeG3tXjc
Remember when Gamers Nexus was about hardware reviews? Those were the good times.
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>>108957340
>>108957340
who is he being funded by currently
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>>108957344
This literally looks like AI sloppa wtf
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>>108957340
>Literally months of crying and screaming and pissing his pants at Nvidia and "AI".
Yeah shit sucks. But, holy fuck. Move on. Actually try and be useful and point out ways people can get into gaming and not be completely ripped off, just screaming about how awful it is all the time isn't helpful.
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https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-first-24-5-inch-540hz-oled-monitor-has-been-announced
>tandem woled
>1080p
Will this look like shit
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>>108957344
gaymers
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>gold motherboards, gpu's, and now cables
Who the fuck is burning money on Asus shit?
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>>108957355
Check his comments. He doesn't care about hardware or tech anymore, he cares about making easy money out of ragebait clicks. You're not allowed to criticize him, period. His new audience will make damn sure to remind you that he is the TECH JESUS and he is not to be criticized.
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>>108957356
>DSC
Yes
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>>108957340
He's a heckin real journalist and consumer advocate now, get over it chud
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>>108957340
The fuck are they supposed to review?
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>>108957356
Maybe
Woled inherently has the dirty greys issue
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>>108957385
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>>108957381
It's gonna be 10bit and require more bandwidth than that
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I have a 6600xt, a 4070S and a 9070xt
any point on doing dual GPU anything on these? Like lossless scaling?
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>>108957356
But how much will it cost?
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Whats stopping you from putting anime figures inside your pc
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>>108957405
>6600xt, a 4070S and a 9070xt
Just sell the 9070xt (already obsolete anyways) and use dlss framegen in new games and smooth motion in older ones.
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>>108957385
I'm sure the remaining plaintiffs in the Honey lawsuit are grateful for his pro-consumer work. Hopefully when the next update from the guy that broke the story drops, he'll rightfully call out Steve on fucking things up.
>>108957390
I don't know, the cases they have sitting in the office and promised to review with their semi-anechoic chamber worth millions of dollars? Oh yeah, that doesn't bring as much clicks anymore. So much for those principles.
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>>108957417
Just sell the dp2.1 and use dp1.4 dsc what are you gay
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>>108957414
I don't want the smell of warm plastic filling my room in the summer
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>>108957362
This gpu will cost over $6k btw
I do not get the appeal
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>>108957455
>I do not get the appeal
cool logo
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>>108957414
I'm not trans or autistic
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>>108957463
Yes. Yes you are though
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>>108957362
>EATX motherboard with s huge screen and integrated AIO
>integrated AIO
Lmao no replacements
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fancontrol is such a shit program
you will spend all this time setting everything up only to wake up the next day to find everything looking completely different
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>>108957414
Working on getting better at sculpting so I can resin print my fursona and put him in there.
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>>108957455
Silly overpriced collector's item, not a genuinely good GPU.
I mean
>4 slot cooler
Just get an FE 5090, or any 5090 at this point if you only care about the GPU.
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why would anyone get a collectors item of the most consumer hated gpu of all time
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>>108957340
Steve was probably one of those nerds that snitched on everyone on the down low to the teachers
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>>108957520
Prefer BIOS control over OS control. One takes zero CPU resources because it handled by the chipset. The other is constantly interrupting your core0.
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Are those LCD screen cleaners safe to use if a mcirofiber cloth alone is not as effective?
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>>108957820
Whoosh works on my QD OLED but if you don't have any you can use heavily diluted iso alcohol.
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>>108957520
It hard-crashes my system when gaymin'
I just adjusted curves in bios since idc about what my gpu does
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https://www.techpowerup.com/349541/amd-announces-socket-am5-longevity-till-2029#g349541

AM5 Alive until 2029
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>>108958009
so they're quietly admitting zen 6 delay into 2027 and zen 7 into 2029
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is something like the ROG Swift OLED PG27AQWP-G worth it if I already have the Pulsar monitor? Some games I tend to play have rather instable fps and I know OLEDs used to have issues with VRR.

>>108958009
Well shit at least I can stick to my 9800X3D then for a few years before bothering upgrading.
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>>108957455
some people became millionaires doing nothing but buying tesla stock or crypto at the right time, they are the people that buy these retarded things, it's not meant for normal hard working people
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>>108958076
vrr is a headache with oled and there is no point in using it, you pretty much have to lock fps when using one
>>108958076
no need to upgrade the 9800x3d until the ps6 comes out with its zen 6 chip and even then I would wait for zen 7
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>>108958166
>vrr is a headache with oled and there is no point in using it, you pretty much have to lock fps when using one
gonna stick to my Pulsar then thanks
>no need to upgrade the 9800x3d until the ps6 comes out with its zen 6 chip and even then I would wait for zen 7
my original plan was to get the 10800x3d or whatever they come up next as I expected it to be the one of the last before AM6 but now? I'll just wait till the performance uplift is decent enough and get then Zen7 or higher and then see how AM6 goes or whatever Intel is baking in near future.
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>>108958009
Well that gives Intel plenty of time to catch up, I guess.
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>>108958284
intels plan is 16 p-cores, 32 e-cores, no hyperthreading, on a max turbo power of 350w.
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>>108958166
>vrr is a headache with oled and there is no point in using it, you pretty much have to lock fps when using one

pcbg everyone
quality discussion and advice for all
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>>108957281
Kek, I just watched Jensen's presentation and he literally said their CPUs are for AI agents and not humans
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>>108958556
datacenter workloads have different optimization pressures than consumer pcs
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>>108958565
I meant the ones they're putting in their windows laptops
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>>108958065
Rumor is zen 7 is coming late 2028 and zen 6 was supposed to come out this year but was delayed.
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>>108958574
thats made by mediatek, its not special since it needs to do same things as any x86 desktop cpu does
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>>108957340
Nvidia blacklists tech outlets if they don't just regurgitate marketing copy. If a channel actually has a card early, it's because they bent the knee.
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>>108958556
ai agents can do tasks better than humans. mmo bots are proof of t his.
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>>108958586
I wish you were joking.
nV copies every marketing trick from crapple.
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>>108958586
GN was blacklisted by Nvidia for years and they had to buy their cards. Then Nvidia decided to get a little more personal by restricting engineer talks for GN, and I think that, plus the sudden shift of the industry to prioritize datacenters, caused Steve to believe he is on Jensen's personal shitlist and Steve sees Jensen's spite in everything, down to believing AMD blacklisted him for not sending a non-gaming CPU to "Gamers Nexus" for review because... he shittalked AMD and kept insinuating Lisa Su plays in Nvidia's favor because she's Jensen's cousin.

While in reality they just don't give a shit about him, because why would they? He can't convince their investors that they should pull out of AI investments now because they're a money sink, which would cause a real turnaround in the consumers' favor. He's just an old man yelling at cloud that knows shit about fuck, as he described himself, yet at the same time he believes that he is an uncomfortable person for these companies. That is just delusional.

Steve lost his mind and went full conspiracy brain. Him trying to play it as a joke isn't funny, he genuinely lost his mind and believes he's the Snowden/Assange of the tech world. His new audience gobbling everything he says uncritically only worsens that.
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>>108958625
The irrelevancy of youtubers is pretty obvious for gpu market. Many joined to shit on nvidia at 50xx launch while promoting amd offerings and it basically did nothing, people didnt buy more amd even when their offering was objectively better than previous generations.
The youtube viewerbase watch the videos for entertainment, not for real guidance.
I think people learned to distrust them with how bad they are at considering value add features of nvidia cards too. Some go "amd does x raster fps, nvidia does Y, therefore buy amd" which completely ignores dlss, fg, etc.
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>no one cares about rt and dlss still chud
I met two different people at work during covid times who went from a 1080ti to a 2060 because apparently some call of duty game would default to rt on even on a gtx card and google told them to buy it.
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>>108958652
>which completely ignores dlss, fg, etc
It's because they got butthurt over Nvidia misrepresenting the usefulness of these technologies, to the point of false advertising with the whole "5070 = 4090" fiasco.

Steve has shown how bad his stigma is in his recent talk with Tom Petersen, which is only worth watching because of Tom, someone who's actually delivering the type of content people watched GN for. Steve felt Tom's tongue-in-cheek "Frame Gen Is The Way" slide name was "antagonistic". One, that's just an insane grudge for a technology for a tech reviewer, and two, it shows Steve's victim complex when he says that's "antagonistic". Tom had a very good point about frame gen, but Steve constantly gritted his teeth over Tom merely talking about it. I used XeFG through OptiScaler on my 3090 and it works really well for smoothing up the FPS, but Steve got so disillusioned he refuses to touch it out of some misguided principle.

Though the real value that Nvidia brings over AMD is not DLSS but the long-term support. Pascal was supported for 10 years, and even now Nvidia released a security patch for those cards even though they're EOL. AMD keeps abandoning their Radeon cards, at least for Windows, while the only real advantage is for Linux users where they can patch their open source drivers to keep their cards alive, but that's not AMD's work, that's just a side effect. AMD really doesn't give a shit about supporting their cards, and their hesitance to give first party support for the newest FSR on older cards despite everyone using the leaked DLL's for like a year shows the difference.
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>Steve lost his mind and went full conspiracy brain.
He’s addicted to negging and thinks that means he’s “objective”. The guy will pick an ideology out of his ass, proclaim the it is the One True Ideology, and whine that everyone didn’t go back in time to redo history to follow it.
These corporations are successful and making billions but according to him they’re all doing everything wrong and need to do what he says instead. He’s a little Hitler and that’s why he’s blacklisted. Why sample him tens of thousands in product only for him to invent things to hate so he can pull in adbux from ragebait.
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>>108958759
> Nvidia misrepresenting the usefulness of these technologies, to the point of false advertising with the whole "5070 = 4090" fiasco.
this might be just me being unable to relate to other people, but saying that slide is a big deal for misrepresentation is really infantalizing and demeaning to the average person right

like they'd have to be retarded to not understand interpolated frames being different from the base frames
So I cant help but feel its an excuse whenever someone brings it up
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>>108958788
>like they'd have to be retarded to not understand interpolated frames being different from the base frames
You underestimate the average understanding of technology of consumers towards which such devices are advertised to.
>>108958787
He's entitled. He believes that Nvidia is obliged to prance around gamers and fulfill everything they demand, because "gamers built their company". Of course when Steve pulls the same stunt and completely redirects his channel to economic/political commentary he is really bad at, throwing away the audience that built his career that watched him for tech reviews and in-depth analysis, that's suddenly okay.

Honestly, if I were Jen-Hsung, Lisa, Lip-Bu or any other big CEO, I'd blacklist all YouTube "gaming" tech reviewers out of spite. Why bother catering to an audience that will always complain about your products? Hell, why make products for them at all? Release some good enough APU's for general use and then release only the highest end CPU's and GPU's for enthusiasts and people who do professional work, that just so happens to be able to play vidya on the side. Fuck the "gaming enthusiast" market.

Too bad people like Steve are too full of themselves to realize they're only encouraging the industry to stop catering to PC gamers the more they pull stunts like these.
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Am I retarded?
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>>108958893
Quite likely, but why are you asking?
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>>108958893
numpads are entirely redundant for 99% of gamers
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>>108958909
>pc is for gaming
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>>108958625
>Blacklsited.
>Had to buy his own cards.
Oh no... He didn't get given shit for free? So now he has to whine and moan all the time?
Poor guy. Jeeze.
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What's wrong with just buying an uber cheap $20-$40 keyboard? They all have swapable mechanical switches now anyways.
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>>108958967
https://www.geekboy.cz/cdn/var/gb/keyboard-sounds/10/630b2e04b3146/czc-nightblade-outemu-red.mp3
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>>108958076
>is something like the ROG Swift OLED PG27AQWP-G worth it if I already have the Pulsar monitor? Some games I tend to play have rather instable fps and I know OLEDs used to have issues with VRR.
>>108958166
>vrr is a headache with oled and there is no point in using it, you pretty much have to lock fps when using one
>>108958256
>gonna stick to my Pulsar then thanks
>>108958550


The irony here is that eSportsfags run VRR off anyway for latency and the refresh is already high enough to minimize screen tear, I mean there is a point but comparing a 360hz pulsar vs 540hz oled the compettive difference is like single percentage even the esportsfag glazers say this, you might have a preference for one or the other but

seems kinda retarded if you already own one or prefer the other
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>>108958957
100% of professionals who enter numbers into a pc for work are better served with a separate numpad they can position however they like
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>>108958893
if it's not HE switches then yeah

>>108958967
>mechcanical swtiches
are you retarded?
there exist 30 buck HE keyboards with 8k polling rate so no
there is no point in not buying an uber cheap chink HE board

but if you buy a mechanical or the wrong one its pure dog shit so yes
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>>108959021
Show me cheap HE chink full size keyboard.
NAO!
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>>108958964
Like I said, entitled. There's a lot of stuff he doesn't get for free, and it does seem like despite his declarations at the start of the reviews whether or not something was sent by the manufacturer, he doesn't want to admit he's not in it for the objective reviews but for all the expensive freebies. It's one or the other, either accept that you won't be getting freebies if you shittalk an objectively bad product, or stop pretending like you're the only objective reviewer in the space.
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>>108959028
>full size
doesnt exist, best I can do is 60%
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>>108959082
Shame, 60% is garbage.
Switching layers just to access F keys is gay.
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>>108959008
I'm not really into esport I just prefer high fps and no ghosting or tearing. Thing is something like MHWilds still manages to have unstable fps even on a 5090 at 1440p. It can range from 70 to 130 depending on the zone. I'm somewhat interested in the image quality of OLED despite burn in but I'm not sure about the VRR ghosting and I don't want to fps cap the game to like 70 or 80 when it can run much more in 1/3 of all situations.
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So i currently have a GTX1070 had it for years and its starting to struggle to play new games, im thinking of getting an upgrade to last the next 8-10 years here are the specs around 2500$

>cpu
amd 9850x3d
>gpu
rtx 5070 (will upgrade to a 16gb a few years later)
>ram
32gb corsair 6000mhz 2x16gb
>ssd
1tb
>hdd
2tb

thoughts?
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>>108959181
its fine
the cpu is expensive vs 270k
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>>108959192
its mainly for gaming i play a lot of poe/poe2 been told its the best for it
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>>108959198
you can try save money by buying a tray version from aliexpress without warranty
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I currently have:
>i5-12400 on B660 w/ Thermalright Peerless Assassin SE 120
>RTX 3090
>64GB DDR4 3600MHz RAM
The whole Alder Lake AVX-512 debacle aside, if I were to drop in an i9-12900K with a contact plate, what level of performance improvement am I looking at? From web browsing to vidya to running ML models and whatnot.
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>psu ate itself
>fuck I dont want to be buying new shit right now
>only spare ive got is 600w so I cant test full system
>warranty replacement turns up and everything still works without issue
We made it, somehow
Fucking nzxt
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>>108959207
just checked it out seems like a 20-30fps drop though but i will keep it in mind
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>9070XT the go to for GAYMING
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Unc build nearly finished. Need to finish some wiring items and then ready to power it on so it blows up in some stupid way.
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>>108959278
why arent the fans and cooler black like the mobo and gpu and case
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>>108959287
That's why I said it was unc build don't give a shit about the fan color as its a solid side door.
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>>108959287
Because Noctua fanboys absolutely adore the diarrhea brown and pus beige colors on their overpriced fans.
>>108959296
Then I have an "unc build" without any of these meme fans and it looks infinitely more shit. Buddy, you're getting a ProArt mobo, pedantically cable manage your shit, and then claim it's an "unc build"? Shut up. This is the type of shit to get a glass panel to be posted for karma looks like.
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>>108959313
You'll be mad then when you see how I modified the front of the case. It was a meshify 2 btw.
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>>108959181
>>108959230
there's a 5070ti 16gb prebuilt at walmart right now for 1800 bwo. A lesser processor but still great and much cheaper than your price here https://www.walmart.com/ip/ABS-Aeolian-Ruby-Gaming-PC-Windows-11-AMD-Ryzen-7-7800X3D-GeForce-RTX-5070-Ti-DLSS-4-AI-Powered-Performance-32GB-DDR5-6000-2TB-M-2-NVMe-SSD-AR7800X3D/17077111062
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>>108959181
You can save money by getting the regular 9800x3d, it's only a 5% difference in performance.
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>>108959217

no overclocking at b series, watercooling, possibly new psu
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>>108959432
If he lives near a microcenter then he should check out their prebuilts, they have good price to performance. For $2500 he can get a 9800x3d and a 5080 for $2200 he can get a 5070ti instead.
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>>108959504
Oh yeah, 1000W PSU so that's not an issue. The mobo is a Gigabyte Gaming X so it has some CPU voltage settings but obv can't do shit on a non-K CPU and I'd want to only UV the thing. Also that air cooler should be able to handle the 12900K as far as test have shown, I'm not too keen on AIO's anyway.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se/2
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>>108959278
Nice build anon. Looks clean
>>108957455
>>108957362
HOLY COW
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>>108957281
I don't get it i5 14400 and 32GB of RAM and an EVGA 1080ti 11GB beats the 5060s and Arcs series in everything I care about.


Why the fuck bother, this shit peaked sometime around 2018, HW and SW are so enshittified now that chasing the latest thing is brain dead.
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This is it this is the last advance in computing.

You know what 5070s do? They MELT cables. Fuck this shit.

Does stuff look better at over 60 FPS? NO you are fucking braindead it's just a benching tool.

Is 4K 144K worth it? NO

My 5060TI 16 GB has gone in a drawer, by 1080 Ti 11GB is back in and everthing is better
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>>108957455
It has an OLED display! ON ITSELF!
https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-launches-800w-rog-astral-rtx-5090-edition-20-with-curved-oled-panel
You will soon be called a poorfag if your GPU doesn't have this indispensable feature!
It's a must-have!
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what causes the extreme decline of tech comment sections on all social media connected to the internet?

Russian psyops?
Flood of 3rdies?
IQ decline in the 1st world?
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Anf for all you hardcore gamers. Who the fuck is going to develop ANY game for a market as niche as 5090 owners?

Why the fuck would they? Who cares even if somehit shits out another sarfield? It was paint drying the game. i've taken craps that were far more attention and concentration demanding.
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>>108960395
i think posts like yours are mainly caused by jeets and zoomers spending their divorced moms money.
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>>108957520
I use a Quadro controller and the aquasuite software.
Yes, it's 50 bucks but worth it.
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>>108960339
> Is 4K 144K worth it? NO
But 5k2k 165Hz is.
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>>108960391
The only gay thing on my 1080ti 11GB is the leds. Have to kill then. fucking hate that shit. Who the fuck wants their case full of rainbow aids glowing like some sort of ayyy fag parade anyway
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>>108960449
I prefer three 27 inch screens and a 50 inch TV . My brain is just used to it
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>>108960449
my 50 inch tv upscales fine from 1080p by the way, you're a bit late there

>0h AI upscaling let me shit and piss myself
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https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amd-radeon-rx-9070-gre-review

>But another angle here is that hardware is just the beginning of evaluating a given graphics card in 2026. You don't just plug one into a PC and install occasional driver updates for it any longer. Modern gaming requires a GPU vendor to conduct ongoing investment in a multi-part software stack encompassing upscaling, frame generation, and RT denoising, and to effectively evangelize that stack to developers and get it into games.

>Thanks to Nvidia's sustained investment in the DLSS ecosystem, owning a GeForce card means that you can generally trust that you'll enjoy either day-one support for the latest DLSS versions in games or an easy override using the Nvidia App. And Multi Frame Generation on Blackwell has matured to the point that early tradeoffs with input latency are basically ironed out in the latest titles. That all means that you have a wide range of freedom to tune performance, smoothness, and image quality to taste on GeForces. -

>And AMD's Ray Regeneration RT denoiser is only available in a couple of titles, while you can usually find DLSS Ray Reconstruction alongside titles that are pushing the state of path-traced effects forward. Ray Reconstruction is a key feature in titles like Resident Evil Requiem, Pragmata, Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, Doom: The Dark Ages, and more. In fact, AMD cards are locked out of path-traced effects entirely in Resident Evil Requiem and Pragmata.

At least toms hardware isnt misleading consumers unlike some youtubers.
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I truly was a fool for thinking we'd get new GPUs announced
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Excuse me, I have to go boo ino windows XP and play the second half of warhammer mark of chaos on a 750ti 4gb, I'm the baddie now but obviously it would make a huge difference if it was connected to a 5090 on 4k 144 at a billion fps....in win11..no...wait...it would make fuck all difference
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>>108960524
Do the math
>vram costs 4x
>people want MORE vram
>new gpu would need more vram that costs 4x

No one would buy it at this juncture.
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>>108960523
Good luck with your melty cabling if you have a 5070! No fucking refunds in the event your house burns down.
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>>108957520
anti cheat software blocks it usually. love to see it.
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>>108960542
will moot ever do something about sharty shitposting bots
the threads simple get harder to parse over time
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>>108957520
sounds like user error.
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in case you forgot after half of the thread being his samefagging
>"Customers do not buy GPUs, they build AI factories" - NVIDIA CFO on today's earnings call.
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why can't intel keep a socket supported? why do they hate us so much?
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>>108960648
why do you feel the need to keep reusing a shitty motherboard for 10 years? not saying they shouldn't support their sockets for longer but most people only say this because intel bad is free karma
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Is there any legit way to get a longer 12VHPWR cable?
Seems most included PSU cables top out at 700mm and 3rd party cables are a no-go from a warranty standpoint.
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>>108960672
because i also reuse my ram? the motherboard doesn't matter for performance so you might as well reuse it too. what is the point in buying a new one if it doesn't change anything?
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I am scared of my PC crashing its like my oh shit fear
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I view the dozen different chipsets a major failure of am5 platform

what are they doing, it makes it harder to find the right thing for you
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>>108960688
>because i also reuse my ram?
then you're gonna handicap your new CPU with slow RAM
>the motherboard doesn't matter for performance so you might as well reuse it too
it matters for RAM speed, PCIe speed, storage speed, etc

i would never want to be stuck on an entry-level B350 today
but you do you
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>>108960696
they have the same amount of chipsets every gen as intel
new cpu + new mobo for new builds
but you can also do
new cpu + old mobo for old builds
>>108960702
>>108960702
>then you're gonna handicap your new CPU with slow RAM
don't care i don't want to buy a new kit
>it matters for RAM speed, PCIe speed, storage speed, etc
i just want a new cpu and i don't care about the performance i lose if i don't have to buy a new mobo and ram. that is double the money for 10% more perf at best.
>i would never want to be stuck on an entry-level B350 today
as long as it has enough usb ports and doesn't overheat. i don't care.
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>>108960702
>>108960716
i also reuse the ssd, and pcie gen doesn't matter
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>>108960556
That's not shitposting. Go look it up.

https://videocardz.com/newz/der8auer-shows-geforce-rtx-5090-fe-cables-with-uneven-power-distribution-finds-150c-hotspot
Later in the video, Der8auer demonstrates what may be the potential reason why only a single cable melted. It turns out that RTX 5090 FE cards have an uneven distribution of power across all 12V cables. Under a thermal imaging camera, it became obvious that only two cables out of four heat up...

It's a serious known problem with the 6070s and 5090s

https://tech.yahoo.com/articles/nvidia-rtx-5070-melted-cables-153159396.html

Nvidia RTX 5070 Melted Cables Raise Further Concerns Over 12V-2x6 Safety


https://www.pcguide.com/news/even-the-rtx-5070-can-melt-cables-user-reports-with-a-potential-root-cause-spotted/

https://www.pcguide.com/news/this-rx-9070-xt-uses-the-same-power-connector-thats-melting-nvidia-gpu-cables/

The 12V-2×6 power connector has become a source of concern for many PC builders. Previous generation Nvidia RTX 40-series Super cards often came equipped with this connector, and some of them actually started melting, much like the previous 12VHPWR standard.

This problem persisted into the RTX 50 series, with similar issues reported by users of the RTX 5090 Founders Edition and at least one ASUS RTX 5080.
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>>108960716
>>108960726
if you don't care about performance why are you even upgrading?
a decent motherboard is like $200-$300

and if you buy the latest entry-level CPU every generation you should reconsider your priorities
no going from a 1600 to a 3600 to a 5600X to a 5700X3D was not a good deal and AMD wasn't based and epic for giving you inferior CPUs for most of the socket's lifespan
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>>108960556
https://www.slashgear.com/1912573/rtx-5090-gpu-nvidia-cables-melt-dangerous-problem-explained/

The most likely explanation for the melting power connector issue on a small number of NVIDIA RTX 4000 and 5000 series graphics cards has to do with the way the GPU interfaces with the connector. NVIDIA has stuck with 6-pin 12VHPWR connectors in its cable interface, with each pin meant to carry a portion of the power. High-end RTX cards like the 5090 pull a huge amount of power. When these wires are imbalanced, it can result in one pin carrying the lion's share of the wattage, which in turn causes overheating. Some board partners incorporate a technology called per-pin power sensing that helps to maintain an equal distribution across the pins, whereas the Founders Edition GPUs, direct from NVIDIA, do not. Instead, they treat the entire connector as a single entity. On the other hand, sometimes the issue is caused on the supply side, with the connector on at least one RTX 5080 melting at the PSU side.

Some companies have taken matters into their own hands. Seasonic plans to integrate some technology into a new power connector, which will work in combination with next-generation PSUs to alert users to any issues. Of course, that will require an extra investment just to ensure your multi-thousand-dollar GPU doesn't go haywire. You can also look for GPUs with per-pin power sensing from board partners. For instance, the ASUS ROG Astral GeForce RTX 5090 and other cards from the same lineup utilize per-pin sensing to alert users if there is an issue with power delivery to the GPU. This is the route most people should take, as the melted cables we've seen have mostly been connected to NVIDIA Founders Edition graphics cards.


>>108960738
>It's a serious known problem with the 5070s and 5090s
typo fixed also repored on 5080s
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>>108960761
i just want a newer cpu. i don't need a full system upgrade because i don't care about the rest. do you understand this? what is the problem here? a new cpu costs half as much as a mobo + ram upgrade or at least it used to be. so what is the point in getting new ram and a new motherboard if i can just use the old parts with the new cpu?
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>>108960761
>>108960716
>and AMD wasn't based and epic for giving you inferior CPUs for most of the socket's lifespan
It's also kinda funny that AMD discontinued the best CPU of the socket only to release progressively worse monkey models from EYPC shitbins.
Now that the EYPC shitbins are piling up again you finally get the 5800x3d back many years after it was relevant and will likely be overpriced and this is considered a "win"
People unironically would have been better off with a DDR4 Z690 board
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108960761
108960795
is that what it feels like when you get mogged by a 5800x3d to this day?
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>>108960779
yeah like i said you do you
maybe AM5 will age better (depends on what the IMC wants in future gens) but on AM4 the old boards suck ass
when i upgraded to zen 3 i also bought a B550 because the B350 i had was terrible
terrible VRMs, terrible memory speeds, terrible audio, no connectivity

just buy good parts now instead of throwing away money every generation

>>108960795
>People unironically would have been better off with a DDR4 Z690 board
but my reddit karma
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>>108960556
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2936663/rtx-5090-cards-keep-melting-power-connections-despite-colored-plugs.html

Nvidia RTX 5090s keep melting power connections despite colored plugs
Despite revised 12V 2x6 connectors with yellow safety markings, we're still seeing new cases of melted connectors on the Nvidia RTX 5090.
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>>108960832
>https://www.pcworld.com/article/2936663/rtx-5090-cards-keep-melting-power-connections-despite-colored-plugs.html
>>108960556
Color marking doesn’t address the deeper design problem
According to MSI, the yellow plug tips are intended to enable a simple visual check as to whether the plug is fully seated. However, as the latest reports show, the labeling doesn’t actually address the root cause, which apparently lies in the 12V 2×6 connector’s uneven power distribution.

While previous RTX generations—such as the RTX 30 series—distributed the power supply across multiple lines, the new 12VHPWR and 12V 2×6 adapters route the power through a single source. This can lead to an overload on individual pins, which can overheat and cause melting even if the connector is correctly seated.

These new cases make it clear that colored safety markings alone aren’t an adequate solution. The fundamental issue continues even when everything is done properly. So far, Nvidia hasn’t announced any measures to get this problem under control. For now, users should check their connections regularly for signs of heat or discoloration.
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Who cares anymore pc building is dead, brand warring is wasted effort
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>>108960556
https://wccftech.com/roundup/nvidia-rtx-5090-16-pin-connector-melting-issues-tracker/

Why Does the 12V-2x6 Connector Melt?
The problem stems from the flawed connector design. The very next day after the first RTX 5090 connector melting incident, popular German overclocker Der8auer demonstrates how the 16-pin connector (12VHPWR) can reach up to 150°C on the PSU side and nearly 90°C on the GPU side as well. While one could argue that the latest ATX 3.1 standard 12V-2x6 connector offers more safety measures and better reliability, the core design was retained.

12V-2x6 connector introduced shorter sense pins (roughly 1.5mm shorter than 12VHPWR sense pins) and longer power/ground pins (+0.25 longer) to ensure a proper contact. This change was made as the first 16-pin 12VHPWR connector was supposedly causing melting problems due to improper contact with the pins. Whenever the connector has some of its pins disconnected, the entire load gets distributed on the rest of the pins.

Unlike traditional 6-pin and 8-pin PCIe connectors, the 16-pin design can carry the entire load through a single contact, even if other pins in the group lose connection. Now imagine sending nearly 600W through a single pin or a few pins, which is already a big jump over what the conventional 8-pin connector can handle. The temperature rise is inevitable. This is why the PCIe 5.1/ATX 3.1 standard was introduced, and while each power pin was designed to handle around 9-9.5 Amps of current (around 108 W per pin), a few pins or sometimes a single pin have to carry the entire load, which results in such a disaster.

As we mentioned earlier, Der8auer's testing included the 12VHPWR connector on the cable-side, but Andreas Schilling's investigation, which had a 12V-2x6 cable revealed a similar finding. The connector reportedly reached 150°C quickly under full load, which caused the melting of the housing of one pin, while others remained intact.
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>>108960556
>will moot ever do something about sharty shitposting bots
>the threads simple get harder to parse over time
>>108960542
>Good luck with your melty cabling if you have a 5070! No fucking refunds in the event your house burns down.

Wuld moot ever do something abou faggos trying to defend mega cap corporations selling dangerous by design crap.
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>>108960886
what did we do to deserve your hate exactly

its a general to give people pc building advice
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>>108960851
no it isn't. it's just a lull.
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Want another good one but his ime it's intels fault? Stick and older model 980 in a 12VO board EVEN if teh PSU is above wattage and he boards VRMs will blow on boo.

let the enshittication continue because people who bought 5090s don;t want their fraile dunning kruger egos damaged by the fact they have a fire hazzard that cost 2K in their case. It might ake a couple of years but it WILL bmelt eventually. NEVER fall alsssp in a room with a 50 series Nvdidia card running in a case.
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>>108960339
I had this card but was/is it really that crazy or are people simply meme'ing?
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>>108960851
>>108960905
I hardly see custom loops anymore
"AI" and inflated prices definitely hurt it
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>>108960935
3080 came out few years later and pretty much blew every previous gpu out of the park in terms of value, and 3080 came out 6y ago so im not sure who is nostalgic for that stuff
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>>108960887
What did i do to deserve being called a sharty cunt for mentioning a very real safety issue with 50xxs from Nvidia? I maybe saved someones PC or even their life posting this info and i have seen it in person, I can't post in public because I don't want to deal with nvdias laywers but when he cables are flush and in close contact he heat cooling cycle causes them to slowly push away from each other due to thermal expansion in the metal contact components, then when a few pins go out of contact after cooling downa nd there are just a few pins in full contact the shitty thing tries to pull 450 watts over a couple of pins and BANG the heat shoots up and ou have a housefire. It could take 2 weeks, i could take rwo years (depends on the number of heat cool cycles) but nvidia jus does no give a fuck, THERE ARE known engineering soluions but they just down give a fuck about your life enough and i's cheaper just to throw a few poliicians money to enure that it is never investigated. ITs also VERY easy to FUD the issue and point to a few tards with crap cables, shit PSUs etc but nvidia almost certainly know what i am saying. Buyer beware. Check the state of those cables and sockets every couple of weeks. ideally a thermal sensor that cuts the PSU entirely if they get over 80 degrees

The simple answer is pulling that many watts over wires that thin was a shity thing to do.
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>>108960905
Look I'm all for positive thinking but nothing is popping unfortunately
We're here forever
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>>108960935>>108960949

the 1080Ti 11GB is a different beast to the 1080
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>>108961002
it really loses out when you consider RT or dlss or fg, since it was the end point of purely advancing games via making the res higher, or fps higher
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>>108960905
>no it isn't. it's just a lull.
by the time this lull is over half the companies that make pc building components will be broke or have left the market and pc building products behind, even if prices fall in 2028 less demand, higher prices due to lower volume. It is dying anon.
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When is AMD going to fix the GPU market?
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>>108961010
>when you consider RT
pic related
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>>108961046
when the cattle stops buying prebuilds and using windows
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>>108957340
>Remember when Gamers Nexus
Commies, retard. Those freaks always have an agenda.
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>>108961052
name a AAA game from 2026 without RT
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>>108961010
>when you consider RT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzen0AvINrI
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>>108961068
name one good game with RT
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>>108961074
so what does this mean
games use rt
this guy thinks all games are bad
therefore some 10y old gpu is betterer

what the fuck is the point of the disrource
where do you fucking people crawl out from
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>>108960684
Depends how you define "legit".
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>>108961082
name one good game that needs rt. don't care if it is aaa or not. go on. remasters don't count btw.
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>>108961099
why
you're mentally ill so I never will ever get anything out of talking with you
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>>108961068
>name a AAA game from 2026 without RT
Name one I care about or that is not just as good wih it off.
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>pcpartpicker.com
How do I hide "out of stock" items?
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>>108961104
>no you are mentally ill for wanting a list of good games that need rt
>no u
>no u
>no u
cope, seethe and dilate rtx tranny. there are no good games with ray tracing. list some good games with ray tracing or fuck off. why should i care about goytracing if there are no good games that use it? just so i can pay novideo more money? is that why i should care about the latest goyslop? fucking nigger.
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>>108961121
ask your father about rt games to play on your modern rt capable gpu
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>>108961124
>>108961099
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>>108961082
It's plausible that for some stuff that GPU is better than e.g 8GB modern cards i has a very fast memory bandwih as well 484.4 GB/s the 5060 is only 448 GB/s and the memeory bit with is higher on it, 352 Bit vs 128-bit on a 5060.
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>you need ray tracing in your gpu
>ok give me some good games that need rt and are fun
>nuhh uhhhh
is it's another scam?
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>>108961082
Kind crazy but..pic related

>>108961082
>therefore some 10y old gpu is betterer

The only thing that saves the 5060 is DLSS but that has i's own downsides like artifacts, blurring of objects in motion etc etc.

I think you need to watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h9wStdPkQY
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what the fuck happened to nvidia....
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>>108961104
You are disagreeing with multiple anons anon. The internet is not one person.
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Recommend me a gaming mouse for my 2026 PC

Under $60 because I'm not that sweaty
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>>108961266
Money and power changes a man
Unfortunately that man controls the entire industry, and is letting it die for his own gain
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>>108961278
VXE R1 Pro
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>>108961280
But are you not exited that nvidia and microsoft are getting rid of the desktop and making disposable laptops ga run copilot better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4nJo-oqAro

Good luck finding a desktop MB for that
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>>108961278
VXE R1 Pro Max
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>>108961184
>Kind crazy but.
GTX 1080 Ti: 88 ROPs running at ~1.6 GHz = 140 GPixels/sec
RTX 5060: 48 ROPs running at ~2.5 GHz = 120 GPixels/sec
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>>108961266
what i was warning anons for a decade would inevitably happen? Sure, i personally wasn't saying that they'd literally abandon gaming entirely, they just had no actual interest in doing anything but making money off of dumbfuck paypigs. Companies like that are a blight and would only wind up stabbing us in the back, which they inevitably have.

Sadly both competitors have done the same damn thing at the same time, but at least AMD intends to keep making gpus as normal, they're just gonna put more effort into server-stuff instead, but thats been their general business model all along.

AMD generally uses their industrial innovations to improve their gaming products, Njudea are just offloading their R&D onto gamers with substandard gimmick-tech so they can profit in the server-sphere more, and now they're stepping away from even doing that.
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>>108961324
goyvideo users deserve everything they get
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>>108961071
>That thumbnail.
Kek.
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>>108961324
>AMD generally uses their industrial innovations to improve their gaming products
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>>108961184
>Kind crazy but.
Far Cry 6 (with HD Texture Pack): With the high-resolution texture pack enabled at 4K, this game easily demands 9–10GB of VRAM. The RTX 5060 experiences massive micro-stuttering and asset pop-in as it forces data into system RAM. The 1080 Ti maintains a much more stable framerate

Hogwarts Legacy: At native 4K High/Ultra, VRAM allocation spikes. The 5060 suffers from dramatic frame drops down into the teens when turning the camera quickly in dense areas like Hogsmeade. The 1080 Ti holds closer to a steady 30–35 FPS.

Days Gone: Pushing this game to max settings at 100% resolution scale at 4K hits the 5060’s bandwidth limit hard. The 1080 Ti uses its wider bus to comfortably stay above 30–40 FPS with cleaner frame times.

Grand Theft Auto V: At native 4K with Advanced Graphics settings cranked up, the 1080 Ti easily cruises at 50–60 FPS. The RTX 5060 trails behind by roughly 10–15% because it chokes trying to push that many raw pixels through a narrow 128-bit pipeline.

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt (Original DX11 Version): If you play the classic edition without ray tracing, the 1080 Ti handles native 4K brilliantly. The 5060's L2 cache isn't large enough to store the massive 4K frame buffers, forcing it to slow down

Battlefield 1: A highly optimized masterpiece for Pascal architecture. At native 4K Ultra, the 1080 Ti frequently holds a locked 60 FPS, beating out the RTX 5060.

Shadow of the Tomb Raider: Running natively on DirectX 12 at 4K without DLSS, the 1080 Ti wins the benchmark average purely because of its raw fill-rate capability.

What 'saves' the 5060 is dlss and that brings it;s own downsides
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am4 chads and xeon shitbox chads won
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umm...
same price for ~17% worse performance and 25% less vram.
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>>108961184
>Kind crazy but..
>>108961082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnsC2V4_0w
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>amd cpu good
>amd gpu good
>linux good
>valve good
>steam good
>microslop bad
>novideo bad
>windows bad
>uplay bad
>ea bad
if you disagree you are a goynigger and can cope, seethe and dilate now.
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>>108961456
>same price
>>740052957
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>>108961456
>>108961479
Fuck I'm retarded
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>>108961469
>>valve good
>>steam good
Fuck of shill
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>>108961488
goynigger
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valve and steam hate is forced and you can't convince me otherwise.
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>if you don't have stockholm syndrome you are forcing it
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>>108961504
so what did valve do wrong again?
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>owning nothing and liking it because the billionaire is your epic friend
if you're pc gaming and both not pirating and not buying your games to own through GOG, you're doing it wrong
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>When you have a battered housewife relationship with Radeon

>>108961511
based
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>i don't pay for games
>why are games so shit
retards going to retard.
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>>108961519
I already gave Nvidia $3000 to play gaymes I'm not spending a penny more
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>>108961511
how is valve and steam preventing you from pirating your games again? explain.
>>108961524
that is a (You) issue.
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>>108961524
>>108961504
KeK
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Waitfags waited™ for $349 5800X3D re-release
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-confirms-ryzen-7-5800x3d-10th-anniversary-edition-for-349-launches-june-25th
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>>108961469
Just no to brand loyalty is the takeaway what is the best made value or performance varies by year. Nvidia is on he downside but they crushed amd for years, this means if you are building peak retro like XP and 7 you will be picking cards like 970s or sigh, 1080 Tis. Both intel and AMD have made shitty processors at some point, If intel continues the Ultra 2 is the best value right now. Over all? PC building has become deeply enshittified driven by youtube marketing People are buying 32GB 5090s for AI python when all you have to so is set a system prompt on LM studio on something meh like a 7b that will run on a potato

"You are a Principal Python Engineer and Elite Code Architect. Your sole objective is to write perfect, production-grade, highly efficient Python code.

Adhere to these absolute execution rules:
1. CODE PURITY: Prioritize clean code structure. Format all code strictly according to PEP 8 standards. Use explicit variable naming and include type hinting across all functions.
2. NO CHATTY FILLER: Eliminate introductory or concluding fluff (e.g., "Sure, I can help with that!", "Here is your code:"). Dive directly into code blocks or brief explanations.
3. INLINE COMPACTNESS: Provide concise, high-density inline comments. Explain 'why' something is done, not 'what' a basic line of code does.
4. DEPENDENCY PROTECTION: Always import standard library elements first, followed by third-party libraries. If a script requires a third-party module (e.g., pandas, requests), append a commented `# pip install <package>` line at the absolute top of the code block.
5. SECURITY & ROBUST RECOVERY: Write secure code. Do not hardcode API keys or credentials—always fetch them using `os.getenv()`. Explicitly handle logical errors and exceptions using structured `try-except` blocks.
6. EXCLUSIVITY: When fixing code, provide the complete, functional, modified file block. Never output vague placeholders or "rest of the code goes here" comment traps."
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>>108961510
steam keys, curse them.
>>108961511
fair
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>>108961552
don't care. you are forced to run windows with niggervideo gpus.
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>>108961558
>steam keys, curse them.
so you can't even pirate right? kek.
>>108961519
>retards going to retard.
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>>108961552
>efficient Python code
Isn't that an oxymoron?
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>>108961546
Better than paying $550 for a beaten up 5800x3d off ebay
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Steam as a business isnt that noteworthy, they run it well, they take obscene profit from other peoples work and I wish publishers got more to actually invest in games, whatever.
Whats strange is the people who then refuse mild inconvenience of using other platforms with mental gymnastics. Cant they just act like a normal adult who wasnt abused as a child?
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>>108961559
Well mow you;ve just lost me. Win XP and 7 have incredibles libraries and ha's he wa you should look at operating systems or machines of any sort that run software, how big and how good is the library, whether that's a commodore 64, XP a PS1 or a distro whatever. I don;'t follow you anon, at all. The Nvidia GPUs back then were VASTLY better than what AMD were making. Are you still in diapers or something?
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>>108961577
there is no reason for a game that ran without a launcher previously to now run with one.
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>>108961565
i don't pirate and never have, don;t need to either I have a vast physical ibrary. I don;t really use steam anymore, I downloaded everything, took it offline and imaged the drive.
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>>108961575
Me again, yes I hear you however I am using an LLM to do some Z80 assembly (it is really good at it) FYI if I had to pick a favorite it would be C. I don;t even like C++
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>>108961590
fair
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>'Bro! They're totally going to re-release the 5800X3D for just $230!'
>'They're going to shrink the 5800X3D's compute chiplet to 6nm!'
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intel bros...
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even goypunk runs on it great and when it runs goypunk well it's good
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I am too poor to ever be CPU bound
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I WANT AN AORUS INFINITY 5090
I WISH I COULD AFFORD ANYTHING
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA PRICES FOR EVERYTHING SUCK
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>>108961678
anyone running a non x3d cpu in 2026 is cpu bound basically esp intel users
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>>108961685
>AORUS INFINITY 5090
>>108960523
>>108960738
>>108960766
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>>108961685
>AORUS INFINITY 5090
>>108960832
>>108960844
>>108960867
>>108960963
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>>108961687
>1080p
Let's see 8K numbers
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>>108961696
>>108961703
yeah, I am, it's pretty, and I want it. The existence of the lower end nvidia cards in the same trim is immaterial.
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>>108961705
might as well use a 9600x then
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>>108961687
who do I care I can run arc raiders on a 1080-ti 11gb and get this which is fine

1080p Native (Epic Settings): ~50 to 60 FPS.1080p Native (High Settings): ~60 to 65 FPS.1080p Native (Medium Settings): ~70 FPS.1440p (Medium Settings): ~60 FPS.1440p (with AMD FSR Quality): ~80+ FPS

BTW I'm not into this brand/OSs tribalism shit you are a bi of a bore, marketing has pissed in your skull once too much..
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>>108961707

So if it burns your house down that's a price you are willing to pay?

>>108960867
>Why Does the 12V-2x6 Connector Melt?
>The problem stems from the flawed connector design. The very next day after the first RTX 5090 connector melting incident, popular German overclocker Der8auer demonstrates how the 16-pin connector (12VHPWR) can reach up to 150°C on the PSU side and nearly 90°C on the GPU side as well. While one could argue that the latest ATX 3.1 standard 12V-2x6 connector offers more safety measures and better reliability, the core design was retained.
>12V-2x6 connector introduced shorter sense pins (roughly 1.5mm shorter than 12VHPWR sense pins) and longer power/ground pins (+0.25 longer) to ensure a proper contact. This change was made as the first 16-pin 12VHPWR connector was supposedly causing melting problems due to improper contact with the pins. Whenever the connector has some of its pins disconnected, the entire load gets distributed on the rest of the pins.
>Unlike traditional 6-pin and 8-pin PCIe connectors, the 16-pin design can carry the entire load through a single contact, even if other pins in the group lose connection. Now imagine sending nearly 600W through a single pin or a few pins, which is already a big jump over what the conventional 8-pin connector can handle. The temperature rise is inevitable. This is why the PCIe 5.1/ATX 3.1 standard was introduced, and while each power pin was designed to handle around 9-9.5 Amps of current (around 108 W per pin), a few pins or sometimes a single pin have to carry the entire load, which results in such a disaster.
>As we mentioned earlier, Der8auer's testing included the 12VHPWR connector on the cable-side, but Andreas Schilling's investigation, which had a 12V-2x6 cable revealed a similar finding. The connector reportedly reached 150°C quickly under full load, which caused the melting of the housing of one pin, while others remained intact.
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how is RocM atm?
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>>108961723
>1080-ti 11gb
that is now a 10 year old gpu with a huge die. it's not a matter of if it is going to fail but when it is going to fail. also you are running windows. get away from me.
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>>108961730
if I can afford a 4000 dollar gpu, I can afford a 100 dollar cable minder
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>>108961736
I see you ARE faggot

>>108961458
>>108961376
>>108961315
>>108961184
Are you ten years old as well?
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>>108961738
what about the cuck chair? are going to buy that one as well or do you have one already and don't need one.
>>108961743
you are just a retarded windows user.
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>>108961738
won;t do you any good though

>>108960963
>but when the cables are flush and in close contact the heat cooling cycle causes them to slowly push away from each other due to thermal expansion in the metal contact components, then when a few pins go out of contact after cooling down and there are just a few pins in full contact the shitty thing tries to pull 450 watts over a couple of pins and BANG the heat shoots up and you have a housefire. It could take 2 weeks, it could take rwo years (depends on the number of heat cool cycles) but nvidia just does not give a fuck
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nvidia should go back to 8pin connectors.
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windows users should go back to elementary school
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i run arch btw
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>>108961745
I have a hpux box, an os/2 box an suse box a cp/m, box a sun 05 5.3 box and others including different windows arcitectures. As well as an m100e blade server You however are just have a faggot box which you live in because you are a retarded faggot.
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>>108961768
yeah keep replying to a sharty bot giving intentionally bad advice and shitting up the thread
thats surely the answer
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>>108961766
arch is for people who can't setup nixos and it shows...
>>108961768
>he still runs an nvidia gpu
>he still runs windows
there is no redemption for that lil guy
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>>108961762
Are you gay as well as retarded? you sound gay, not really into linux or anything you think might make you kewl, just a possibly underage retarded faggot who buys AMD shit and jumps up and down because well, you are retarded but becaus eYOU bought something you think it must be speciul and kewl when its just a bough (gasp) desktop CPU

You want to fucking belong to some imaginary kewl club? You'll never make it because you seem to be a tarded spastic who has never worked in IT in your life. Just some dumb kid who spent too much on a space heater gayming PC and thinks linux is speciul and kewl.
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Is it safe to buy DDR4 ram from aliexpress? Or will I literally die/waste my time?
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>>108961780
>>108961762
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>>108961771
Yeah I do. That's right on top of these
>>108961768
>a hpux box, an os/2 box an suse box a cp/m, box a sun 05 5.3 box and others including different windows arcitectures. As well as an m100e blade server
I have an XP and win7 machine. I guess you are not just underage but on meds, or should be.
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computer building and recommendations?
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>>108961782
Yes you are a faggot we ge it. Stop spending your parens money on gayming PCs and shitting on about loonix. It's got to shit as badly as windows.
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current specs are

5700x
64gb ddr4
crosshair vi hero
6700xt

i dont actually want to upgrade because my pc meets all my needs perfectly, however what im wondering is if theres any way to get a cm4 itx board these days thats not priced into oblivion? i want to downgrade the board so i can build a more portable pc (will be travelling soon
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>>108961795
>>108961762
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>>108961781
Depends how much you are spending be [prep[ared to see it wasted. At a certain point it's probably worth a gamble but be mentally prepared to get scrap.
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>>108961781
its not cheaper on aliexpress so whats the point
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>>108961807
It's 50% cheaper for me...
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>>108961823
well you need to go through some seller verification because there is fakes on AE
if its actual ram being sold for cheap it should have hundreds of units sold
the store name needs to be something other than random string of letters
good reviews
you ensure AE gives buyer protections
its shipped locally
that sorta stuff
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>>108959088
maybe but the cheapest ones are 60 maybe a tkl exist have not looked into it

>>108959095
70-130 it would be impossible for oled to have the same clarity as strobed
but myabe if u lock fps at a decent low and stable fps it wont vrr flicker, maybe not idk
seems dependent on too many things
when it flickers tho it looks like a strobe show its insane if its bad so yeah unsuable if its bad

>>108960395
normans

>>108960648
limits features and fucks shit up
nobody swaps cpus if you buy right the first time
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Crucial P510 or Corsair MP700 Elite? they are the same price and the cheapest nvme5 available
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>>108962002
Can't go wrong with either. MP700 Elite has better power-efficiency so in theory it should run cooler than the P510, and also has a larger cache (440GB on the 2TB model) so it can maintain higher speeds when writing for a longer duration before slowing down. The P510 has a very small cache (roughly 67GB, yes 67GB, on the 2TB model) so under sustained loads it drops write-speed very quickly (to 2,000MBps). On the flip side, the P510 has a higher base write speed and, under longer duration workloads, the P510 nearly triples the write speed of the Elite (down to 2GB/s initially, then up to 4GB/s vs the Elite's sustained 1.5GBps).
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bx2XyF
Any thoughts on how to improve? For a new 1080p gaming PC.
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Does anyone have Buildzoid's timings for Hynix M-die saved? Didn't get to save them before Kemono kicked the bucket.
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>>108962210
No
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what shall i play on steam
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>>108962239
Librarian: Tidy up the Arcane Library.
you need a 9950X3D-2 and a 5090 for it though
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>>108962268
>5700xt
>1080
bro...
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got a tray 5500x3d from aliexpress meaning it won't come with a cooler, plus I cheaped out on my motherboard so the vrms will be shit

will this little nigga suffice? pricing is in canuckbucks, so it's about $25 US. I've read that top-down coolers are better for vrms.
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>build a gayming PC
>stare at Steam library
>there's nothing to play
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>>108962313
rimworld is always there
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>>108962313
yeah, i had this issue with my second pc. made me realise ive sort of aged out of a lot of gaming. i do like having a decent pc though so nothing ever lags, but like im over specc'd for my usual workload. maybe ill get into gaming again one day, but most new releases are so shit. and then the one i was actually waiting on (mina the hollower) has these insane spec requirements
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>>108962300
was a joke, its a great game though
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>>108962327
860MB of space is enough for minesweeper
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>>108962313
there is always factorio
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>>108961669
>>108961687
>gameplay benchmark
how can i run these tests on my own system to ensure their numbers are fair and accurate?
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>>108962189
think i will go with the mp700, I like things running cool, I doubt I will ever notice the speed difference
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found this while browsing my memes
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>108961546
frogchud thought they weren't going to re-release it and is now seething
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>>108962466
trvk
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>>108962425
does someone have the image of jensen with the dlss 5 filter?
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People are whining about the Steam Deck being raised in price so here's a question. Are there any Single Boards you can get with better specs than the Steam Deck, to just put Linux + Proton on yourself?
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>>108962522
>https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/pc-gaming/asrock-bc-250-used-for-steam-machine-duty-gains-third-party-hack-to-unlock-all-40-cus-mining-board-now-has-more-cus-than-a-base-ps5
Get the BC-250 apu (trashed ps5 apu) and unlock the GPU cores
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>>108961687
hmmmmm. im not seeing a 9950x3d2 on that chart.
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>>108962548
4 month year old video
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>>108962556
trash. TRASH!
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>>>108962566
>trash. TRASH!
but enough about socket 1851
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>>108957422
>Hopefully when the next update from the guy that broke the story drops, he'll rightfully call out Steve on fucking things up.
Extremely late reply, but whatever happened there? I forgot about following that drama after the guy who broke the story dipped for a while.
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>>108962535
Noice, never heard of that. And that'll make a steam DECK and not a steam machine? Looks pretty big.
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>>108962313
>build PC
>so many things in backlog
>wish I had a 5090
Sucks to be you I guess
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>>108962522
there's probably like 10 of those, but everything is raising in price now, if you wanted one of those you should've bought it before or wait 1 or 2 years to buy a good one, because the steam deck just sucks
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>>108962603
t. neet
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>>108962626
What chips are the best? Several years ago the best SBC was the Latte Panda, and it was ass
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>>108962632
z1 extreme, z2, strix point
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>>108962603
whats in your backlog?
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>steam PC
>$1000+ for a 7500F and a RX7600XT plus a 512gb SSD
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>>108962594
Yeah it'll make a steam machine
Steam deck is really hard to diy since it has haptics, a screen, controller and battery to go along with the board
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>>108962686
but that's roughly what that costs for us builders now
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>>108962686
It's not even 7600XT.
>less VRAM
>less CUs
>lower tdp
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>>108962907
There was a small sweet-spot for a few months in 2025 when you'd get the best value for a new system. Now we're in the horror period where you have to get DDR3 (ancient) systems for reasonable value.
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Feels like nobody cares about latency anymore since people with 9800x3ds and 5080s have worse frame times and 1% lows than AM4 fags 3 years ago.
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>>108962984
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/passmark-sees-the-first-yearly-drop-in-average-cpu-performance-in-its-20-years-of-benchmark-results
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>>108962984
Nice delusions.
Is that you AMDip guy?
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>>108962991
that has more to do with the fact nobody can afford to upgrade
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>>108963007
>>108963004
Dudes with 5080s and 9800x3ds in CS2 are barely hitting their max refresh rate in 1%
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>>108962919
Price floor for a new desktop PC moved up by $300.
That's just including 16GB of RAM and very small SSD on a new platform.
It gets worse if you live in some shithole.
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>>108963018
Oh no the terror, they can barely get 360FPS 1% lows.
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>>108962991
>>108962984
Check out Timespy the average 5080 is worse than a 4080 or 7900XTX
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>>108963028
Nigga we're talking whole GPU tier downgrades because people cant setup computers
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>>108963028
Could be a software issue. I read somewhere that the windows CPU scheduler sucks. I think they specifically made poe2 patches just to try to circuumvent some bad scheduling behavior of windows.
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>>108963038
You picked the worst example of a game, you would not be able to tell the difference on a 9800X3D in CS2.
There are games where memory matters with that CPU but that's not one of them.
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>>108963053
There are nearly infinite reasons why your game has lower than expected performance.
Welcome to the world of PC gaming.
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>>108961552
>when all you have to so is set a system prompt on LM studio on something meh like a 7b that will run on a potato
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>>108963032
nVidia fucked around a lot with the drivers.
For some titles there can be up to 20% performance dip depending on the version of the driver.
If you have 5xxx card try checking the score for 591.86 and 595.97 or newer.
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>>108963079
Well but software or hardware isnt magic either. If you know how pcs work you can find out by method of elimination.
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>>108962984
people who care about latency typically use intel thoughbeit
ryzen has been and still is laggy in that area
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>>108963143
You don't know how it works, you can just pick variables and tweak them.
Pretending to know how everything works is just high level of vanity.
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>>108963181
I do know roughly how most of it works. I studied it and read several books. I can build a pc from the transistor level up. Its not magic, just layers of abstractions and mechanisms.
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>>108962583
What I meant is that whenever there's an update on the case from MegaLag, the guy who actually broke the story that GN latched on to for publicity, then subsequently fucked it up, and it'll take a while because class-action lawsuits take time, he won't forget to mention how Steve fucked over people in the lawsuit with his fast and loose playing, and Steve will be compelled to defend his honor the moment someone calls him out since he has become a mirror image of Lienus. It's just that no one dared to talk shit about "Tech Jesus" yet so he feels untouchable.
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now this is unc-building!
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>>108963220
>I can build a pc from the transistor level up
Anon, you could not even build a pencil without other people and their work.
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Its basically just three layers:

1. Comuter architecture. This is how the hardware works and provides an interface in the form of assembly language to the next layer.
2. Operating syatems. The base software layer which abstracts away the hardware and provides higher level APIs for programs.
3. The program layer. Here your games run essentially.

Its not magic its just a stack of mechanisms and (imperfect) abstractions.
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>>108963266
I never said I was independent of other peoples work
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>>108963279
Knowing about how certain machines work is not the same as understanding how all those systems interact with each other, on top of that you have multiple software layers.
>I know that I know nothing.
You couldn't do much without the vast knowledge base, you simply know where to look for the information. Which is a good skill to have.
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>>108963318
Yeah and the I use the method of elimination and I bet I will find the issue. I literally use my brain and Im on linux so I have more options than windowscucks
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>>108963318
Also to solve most issues I dont need to have complete knowledge. Most stuff I can just solve quickly by trial and error and my current knowledge. Only the most obscure problems might elude me for a long time and then its a question of reward/effort
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Do the various mkb switches of the same color share the basic properties even between various manufacturers?
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>>108963549
Maybe.
Give us an example also /mkg/ is
this way >>108933367
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>>108963318
Even if you did not study computers you still could solve most computer problems if you have some affinity with computers. Just google and use common sense. That already solves most problems. Computers arent magic, they are a human made machine and the individual smallest parts are simple mechanisms.

I think I also could understand a car or a truck or an elevator, etc. There is nothing that is magical altough its effects can look like that.
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5060ti 16gb or 5070?

I don't have money for 5070ti

I know 5070 is better for gaming but I don't want to lose out on VRAM and AI
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>>108963754
5060ti 16gb you already answered your own question
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>>108963754
save more money for 5070ti
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how do you test gpu vram stability?
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>>108963901
You don't need to unless you are buying frankenstein gpus from temu
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>>108963937
I am overclocking
Anyways I found vulkanmemtest
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Fuck this gay earth
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>>108964295
Basically don't expect consumer movement until AM5 is end of life
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NVIDIA DLSS 4.5 Ray Reconstruction coming in August for RTX 20, 30, 40 and 50 series

NVIDIA WINS AGAIN

BUY NVIDIA AN INVESTMENT FOR LIFE
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>>108964359
its a sharpening filter...
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https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-26-6-1.html
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>>108964478
>winblows
Irrelevant.
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>>108964295
>>108964314
Doesn't matter really, it's already over
The future of personal computing odd prebuilt ARM boxes
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>>108964496
>you will buy the agent shit... chip-box and like it
is there no hope for pc's in the future?
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>>108964518
ai
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>>108964496
Well, it's not like you can really upgrade your GPU memory either.
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wow
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tpu reviewed a few 9070 gres, 2 samsung ram, 1 hynix ram
samsung temps = 60
hynix = 80
I'd return mine if it came with hynix ram
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>>108964564
>>108964564
>>108964564
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>>108964554
The Hynix is 2% faster by default and overclocks way better, you have to consider that ram is only few watts at best so 80c is not a big deal that's like PCIE nvme controller temp not nand.
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>>108964295
All of this bases on the idea that the current state of affairs won't suddenly change, which is highly unlikely. Give it a year or two.



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