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if you buy nvidia, then you are responsible for crimes against humanity in Palestine and Iran.
According to the NSA, nvidia cards are under mossad remote control.
>>108997070kill yourself
If you buy amd you're responsible for crimes like this
>>108997099>What was the point of FSR RedstoneObviously to mine millions of them to turn into 1 FSR Diamond, duh...
I didn't buy an AMD, I bought a clear conscience.
>>108997099I wonder why AMD apparently used an AI image generator for the gemstone graphics when they have their own 3D rendering engine.https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/software/radeon-prorender.html
To quote anna sarkesian, "yeah, I'm better than you are."
I'm buying an AMD for my next gpu
>>108997125dont do it anon you'll regret it
have been thinking of bumpin up to micro atx after being mini itx exclusive for over 5 years. what do you girlies think?
>>108997136matx is nice if you want it cheaper and/or you want to shove additional pcie cards in, but if you're going big why not just be full size
>>108997136I think xhe should just build regular atx
>>108997136Usecase?
>>108997125gaming on linux? youll need it AMD. otherwise go nvidia
>>108997122
>>108997161No you won't, I game on nvidia on linux just fine. I want it because I have the other two colors of GPU and I want to complete the set. Maybe after that I'll save up and get a green cpu to complete THAT set as well.
>>108997177>I game on nvidia on linux just fineif you do then youre doing it at a sub par level
>>108997193So? Games are meant to be played, not ranked by a meaningless number in the top left.
>>108997234why buy something only to use it at half its capacity
>>108997125You are doing well, sir, I commend you.
>>108997125steer clear of the 12v meme connector and you'll be good.
>>108997234And how will you answer to GOD?
>>108997122>>108997163Finally something to spend my uselessly mind redstone and diamonds on, burning out my gpu would be worth it seeing my ai waifu holding a a trinket in her hands, wearing a drab grey dress looking miserable in the few seconds before my computer crashes due to the aforementioned burnt out GPU.
>>108997267>Mindmined, that if I spend more redstone to improve my spellcheck :(
>>108997267I'd buy a fucking server farm if I could use those stones to pull AI 3d waifus to sexually harass on my desktop, just hook me up to the coompod already and get it over with.
>>108997099Diamond is just and improved and optimized redstone for their next GPUs its just the same thing but "slightly better".
>>108997055Can you believe it? Some people do not a AI GPU(Nvidia) inside their pc
>>108997354Yeah, they are people who are not going to HELL for hurting kids.
How hard is it to add a plata drive into my computer JSUT for storage? Its been fucking ages and im not sure how to do it anymore
>>108997381If your case didn't come with a bracket, look around on the case manufacturer page if they don't have some sold extra. Or you can buy/3d print your own. Or you just lay it on some piece of foam in the case where is room. You can hide it under the psu shrouds or smth.
>>108997087Makes me proud to know that I support the good cause.
I'm thinking of getting into 4k but I just checked and my average frames would be 30-60 fps without framegenWill playing at that rate feel like shit? Should I just stick to 1440p?
>>108997415You'll be fine, most games are made for 30fps and look like shit when interpolated to 60fps.And people act like that's a good thing too.
>>108997136mITX is at premium price for the compactness. mATX is not as popular as it used to be over a decade ago sadly, because it was used for smaller cases that also had bays, room for cooling for GPUs, 5.25 and 3.5" drive mounts etc. These days nobody seems to use these at all sadly, its all glass fishtanks with no room for anything. These days there are hardly any mobo that use it and almost none that are high end (remember in the old days Asus ROG boards used to have the "gene" suffix if it was mATX or "impact" suffix if it was mITX"). Honestly I don't see the point today most often - either use a smaller ATX case or stick to mITX and cases designed specifically for its layout if you want one.
>>108997381The fuck is a plata drive?
>>108997516This
redpill me on 5060 ti 16GB
>>108997556That's blue, not silver.
>>108997516the "JSUT" made me assume that he just misspelled "platter"
>>108997586I type faster than my brain registers so i sometimes overlook speeling mistakes
>>108997381I should re-iterate this question. Do you plug in the cable and still have to fuck around with the master slave pins or is that not a thing anymore?
>>108997620Just SATA and power.
>>108997568It uses ai
>>1089975685070 performs much better in games
>>108997620Just sata and power thank god. No one's had to fuck with drive jumpers in more than a decade.
>>108997568decent imagegen card, extra vram is nice for pushing more effects and resolution, but it'll still perform worse in identical situations than the higher end cards.
>>1089976295070ti performs much better in games
>>108997645why are you replying to me?
>>108997638>No one's had to fuck with drive jumpers in more than a decade.More like two decades.
>>108997656nah, sata was still relatively new in '06, and only having a few meant you'd still put your CD drives in IDE
I just ordered a Gigabyte Aorus FO32U2 for 589€Was that a good choice?
>>108997703its glossy so it seems good
>>108997715i have been looking for some time and it was the cheapest offer for a 32 woled screen, i watched some reviews and there only seems to be one panel that all the producers are using? so i just looked for the cheapest offer.
>>108997802if you're strictly only after woled monitors, that seems to be the casethough they've just announced next-gen 4k woled with true black 600 certification this past week
>>108997817yeah i figured there was a new release because of all these discounts on the old gen. But im actually still using a aoc 1080p screen with an 5090 lmao so it will be an upgrade for me and pretty cheap compared to what these screens cost a year or two ago.im not really that autistic about image clarity, i dont even know what a tru black 600 cert is. dont all oled screens have very dark blacks?
>>108997838the oleds can get bright enough that its not a huge deal on day to day content watchingbut the newer monitors will have better sub-pixel layout
>>108997838True black ceritifcaiton mostly guarantees a minimum baseline for brightness at a 10% or 100% Average Picture Level (APL; i.e. percentage of your screen being close to 100% white) while using HDRYou won't really miss much with true black 400 since will always have the amazing contrast levels regardless
>>108997869>>108997838
Guys if you want an efficient PC then you need to underclock it. You can get like 80% the performance with 40% the power draw. Disabled 5800X3D turbo boost and set max vram clock of my 9070xt to 60%. Now I can game in my hot asf room.
>>108997879reducing vram clock of all things seems a bit insane
>>108997883It works well enough. Cache can deliver and is more energy efficient. By proxy it forces the GPU to clock lower a bit. My 9070XT runs at about 160 Watt or lower if the game is framrate capped.
>>108997869>>108997872thanks for explaining anon. i still think i made the right choice, because i wouldnt want to spend 1000 EUR + for a new screen
>>108997929thats smart anon. im the other way around, i use my 5090 to mine crypto, its actually profitable atm.
It was pretty silly when I played zero parades with 120 fps cap on 3080no underclock the nvidia overlay shows 310w+ gpu usageunderclock at same fps cap 220w
>>108997976can you help me set this up too?
>>108997977hear me out, what if you would use ur mom as a power source?
>>108997966damn do you mind telling us what you mine atm?
>>108998086https://pearl.alphapool.tech/#setup here you go my nigger. i found this with claude, i just ask him every month if there is a new coin worth mining, he gives pretty good alpha desu.
>>108998100and you can dump the mined coins on safetrade.com
>>108998100>>108998129thanks ma nigga
>>108997879just fps cap to some sane number when gamingand for idle - web browsing level power draw there isn't much you can do
>>108998231Im not fps capping every game. Some I run with variable refresh rate like for example the first descendant
>"zomg pcs arent selling cus ram and ssd!">nothing else goes down in price to incentivise consooming, it’s all some day bundleseat shit
Good time to build a new pc? Or is there something worth delaying for
>>108998290Things are overpriced now, so you can wait a while until they’re even more overpriced
>>108998296Thought most things looked alright, apart from RAM
Its pretty cool running my PC at like 250W total. Its very silent and cool.
Asking for assistance on getting a new routerI currently have a fritz-box 5530 that came with our internet contract whose WLAN is constantly shitting itself for no reasonWhat I'm looking for:>literally anything better than that turd>needs to have fiber in >cost: I don't fucking know man, probably 150 Yuros absolute top ceiling, literally no idea in that segment
>>108998377from what ive seen most >100€ routers rely on selling it with high bandwidth wifi through walls in a single family housethen if you just need a shit one for a small flat you get literally nothing by paying more than 50€
>>108998377You can get a used fritzbox off ebay for cheap and set it up as a wlan repeater.
>>108998384Alright my bad for not mentioning it right there, but it is for a single family house (like a fairly normal two floor building)>>108998398I'm pretty sure I have one somewhere lying about, so I'll dig for that
>>108998425check out MikroTik – hAP be3 seems like it has powerful hardware inside it
Low succ vacuum or high power blower for dedusting?
>>108998654Yes.
>>108997407>But wrath has come upon them at last!- Saint Paul
So this dutch tech website I frequent suggests making your own ghetto steam machine running Bazzite and provided two example builds. Is this a meme or is this actually worth considering?
>intel cpu + intel gpu>intel cpu + amd gpu>intel cpu + nvidia gpu>amd cpu + intel gpu>amd cpu + amd gpu>amd cpu + nvidia gpuwhich way, /g/entlemen2000€ budget, gaming only. windows 11
>>1089987337800x3d and 5070 are current value picks for gaming
>>108997055Did B850M Aorus Stealth hit retailers yet? Really need that
>>108998739thanks
>>108998654
>>108998739>were talking about valuetown when RX 9070 XT is same price as RTX 5070 but twice the better.>>108998757Get RX 9070 XT
ah you see nvidia has better featureset so its a better purchase for 99% of people
>>108998723its actually pretty spot on. 7600 has more CUs than steam machine and is rdna3 same as it. also zen 4 cpu like machine but higher tdp instead of capped at 30w. we dont know the real price of steam machine yet but if we assume its around $900-1000 after tax then its pretty similar.
in 2026 how do these old styled cases hold? Airflow for 9800X3DOr are the newer ones just designed 9800X3D in mind?
>>108998774I look Nvidia better because they have a stronger diversity program
>>108998733>intel gpuIt's a scam product, they are intentionally making it bad, every random autist would make a better card by just stuffing it full of compute cores and cache.
>>108998757>>1089987395070Ti if you can afford it or dabble in ai
>>108998866its kinda shitty to pay 200-300 extra for it from historical lows because of vram pricingif you have limited budget then it makes little sense for the overall system
Is the 9950x3D a good buy currently? I don't really want to wait 6+ months for nova lake to maybe not suck.
>>108998875its terrible price perf vs 270k for multicore
My first overpriced periphery.
>>108998875It's not a good buy today with zen6 coming in 6-9 months and having a 1.5x ccx size and total core count increase
>>108998896as long as you use the numpad to insert a lot numbers into the pc for your work then it'll eventually pay itself back
Now we are gaming.
Why does nobody make a bigger air cooler than the current flagships from Noctua/Deepcool/PCCooler? I'm talking something that wouldn't fit in a regular case at all, like a 5KG chunk of copper with 20 heatpipes. Of course it would be an overpriced small run product, but still, I'd buy that over an AIO.
Man why aren't the keys the same? I'll have to actually get the stickers for qwertz holy fuck.
>>108998919basic logicmarket demandeconomicsprofitabilityshame
>>108998923you bought it used?previous owner swapped z and y keys
>>108998936Not this is new US ANSI. I swapped Y and Z but apparrently the shapes aren't identical.
>>1089988779950 is apparently much better than the current intels for the flight sims I'll be running though.>>108998900That again runs into the issue of waiting 6 months.
i got Noctua pilledit's over for my wallet
Has anyone got a 5090 to catch fire this week yet?
>>108998923Why aren't you touch typing?
any reason to go with SATA SSDs over M.2
>>108999168you can have 4-6 of them per motherboard
>>108998941keys have different shapes depending on the profile you cannot just swap them most of the times
Which do i go for 9800X3Dbe quiet! Silent Loop 3 with Silent Wings 4 Fansor Noctua NH-D15 chromax with Noctua NF-A12x25 fans
>>108999277its a 60w cpu during gaming
>>108999279i guess i can get, be quiet aio with noctua fans too
>>108999298>Silent Wings 4 Fans>static pressure of 3.96 mm/H2O>Noctua NF-A12x25>static pressure of 2.34 mm/H2Ostick to the silent wings with the silent loop or get some with higher static pressure
>>108999362Not comparable as Silent wings has a 3000rpm limit while Noctua has a 2000 rpm limit.Static pressure goes up with RPM
>>108998843i have no idea what youre even asking
>>108999384checking hwbuster the Noctua really seem to be better at same dBA
>>108999362>>108999384>>108999410There's Sudokoo Mach too. Seems like it's a slightly louder but better thermals.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2MKKjo1a6o
What's the best performing thumb drive? I already have an ASUS NVMe enclosure but I'd like something smaller to put on my keyring.
I have a 3060TI (i know its over for me) and i have never given it a maintenance pass.Am i fine purchasing a grizzly thermal sheet and just replacing its thermal paste (whatever remains there) with the sheet? Im too chickenshit to also mess with the thermal pads. Just replacing the paste and giving the fans a bit of a dust off.It usually performs cool enough since i play old shit and im happy to run games on lower resolutions/fps for extra performance but im playing the 007 game right now and it sends it to 85ºc pretty damn fast.Any and all opinions welcome, Thank you.
>>108999594Is that 85C core or hotspot? Also what about the memory temp? Run Furmark for a few minutes and report the temps, gaming tests are inconsistent.
>>108999535are there any USB 4.0 thumb drives at this point? Otherwise the NVME enclosure seems to be the best but it's certainly larger than some USB stick.
>>108999634>Is that 85C core or hotspot?Whatever the GPU Temperature from Afterburner (pic rel) measures. I wasn't fully monitoring it through HWinfo, i just keep a small display with cpu/gpu temp and fps to see if anything weird happens; and hadn't seen the gpu temp rise like it does on the 007 game in a while, even when my card is slightly undervolted.>Also what about the memory temp?As in ram or vram? i dont think i have a way to measure my ram temperature.>Run Furmark for a few minutes and report the tempsI guess thats the right way to go about it, but still i dont think that repasting the card is a bad idea, i have had it for four years
>>108999594That's Anon from SummerTime something by Dark Cookie, I haven't thought or played that game in a while. I think played that game when it was only half done, at least before he put Trump in it.
>>108999691I'm gonna assume that 85C is the core temp then, which is pretty bad. Repasting is a good idea but if it's four years old the thermal pads on the VRAM and VRMs will just break apart and will need replacing as well. Personally I use cheapo Thermalright pads from Aliexpress but I splurge on the paste (and usually spread it out with the spoon like Thermal Grizzly recommends).
>>108997055The specs picked by OP are way too :1) expensive2) overkilledfor most setups.I daily-drive a GTX 745 OEM (4 GB Vram), a Ryzen 5, alongside 8 gigs of RAM.That's enough to hit around 500 FPS on Minecraft with shaders and the Voxy mod.It's enough to play most Switch games emulated.>Activate WindowsWhy not a user-friendly Linux distribution? Mint. Fedora. Anything with GNOME.
>>108999726>the thermal pads on the VRAM and VRMs will just break apart and will need replacing as well. Personally I use cheapo Thermalright pads from AliexpressIm worried about the pads since it seems that picking the correct ones is merciless, if i pick pads too thick or too thin i risk ruining the card right? while the paste im not totally retarded and i can easily replace it with a sheet or repaste.
What can I do with something like this as far as OS goes? Right now I have windows 11 on it but I feel like its not good enough for it, I have the Ryzen 9 32 gigs ram 1 tb version.
>>108999789this model
>>108999782If you are going to replace the TIM on a GPU, then you might as well be willing to do it "regularly", as in just a few times before you will be upgrading. In that case you can make use of putty instead of pads and not really care about getting the correct thickness.
Dumb question with someone who really prefers 24"inch monitors due to their setup so bear with me I bought this monitor and ended up really liking it https://www.amazon.com/INNOCN-Monitor-Desktop-DisplayPort-25G2S/dp/B0DSPLKKZV But also recently heard about minileds and theres a miniled version. I have an oled on my laptop for some reason and a oled steamdeck so I have some experience. But on the otherhand I'm really one of those people who use factory settings on monitors cause I could not tell you what HDR stands for. I do know whats important to me is image/text sharpness but thats just screensize/resolution so nothing to do with panels really.The question is is it worth upgrading to miniled? is it an upgrade? I dont play FPS games or any action games. Mostly JRPG, visual novels and code editing for work.
>>108999782>too thinThen you get no contact, temps will be sky high and hopefully you notice and redo it.>too thickPretty hard to do (just measure the old ones with calipers and add a bit to account for squishing). But yeah, worst case I guess you can crack a VRAM chip.If you think you're too dumb to do it right and have money to burn you can use thermal putty, it's much more forgiving.
>>108999862If you don't play 3D AAA games or bother to pirate HDR media you don't need to upgrade. For your use case I'd rather get a 4K display (24 inchers are kind of rare these days).
Ayy Em Five
When thermaltake, WHEN?
>All these expensive new "Dual Mode" Monitors coming out>None of them use the most mathematically rudimentary yet sharpest scaling (whole integer) >Instead use all kinds of blurry fractional filtering>Despite years of everyone bitching at them for doing so and GPUs/Software doing it properly already WHY?It's like they've all secreted committed together to spending extra time/resources to create the worst/most useless output they can.
>Google which is most coolest AIO>Arctic>Okay which is most quiet>Arctic>Most cheapest?>Arctic>Most premium?>Arctic>Anything that is not Arctic>ArcticWhere to find information which AIO/fans i want.
>>108999862Daily Driving 1440p @ 24" offers you really great sharpness PPI (122), so moving to anything less than 4K (either 32" or preferably 27") is gonna look soft and dull by comparison regardless to what you are used to. HDR is a crapshoot and will continue to be for another 5-6 years often looking worse than SDR because no one knows how to properly configure it yet (including monitor OEMs, OS devs, and game/movie graders). MiniLED suffers from blooming a lot of time so even really high brightness won't really help and is not a substitute for the per-pixel contrast you get from OLED.tl;dr Your next appreciable upgrade in image quality is gonna need to be a 4K OLED to give you better contrast and equivalent sharpness (preferably with an RGB Stripe subpixel arrangement but those are largely only coming to market next year).
>>109000032Nigga it doesn't matter. You aren't using 300W+ CPU right?
>>1090000559800x3d i guess i buy all arctic then
>>109000035>>108999924thanks. I'll just save my money for a 4K OLED when I'm able to move my setup to a bigger desk.
>>109000061Just adjust the fan and pump speed so you don't run them at 100% for no reason.
>>109000032Eh, technically the best is probably the Tryx 360 but it's really bad value. Just buy the Arctic and don't bother changing the fans. Or if you're really cheap get a Thermalright air cooler, you probably don't need more.
>>108999634Furmark put it on 88º GPU temp and 105º hotspotI have started to research on the pads but might end up just buying putty with a friend and we replace the pads with putty in both our cards.
>>109000079>>109000082is the argb version identical to normal? i wouldnt mind getting an dim white/grey rgb inside the rig
does refresh rate above 120hz really much of a difference or is it placebo
>>109000136If both are the same name then yes, only difference are those gay lights.Before you buy that AIO check if it will fit inside your case, because those radiators are slightly ticker than normal.
I've been too busy waging to follow the marketIs it a good time to build a pc right now?
>>109000097Above 95C hotspot is bad for the card's longevity (even if Nvidia says otherwise), consider power limiting the card until you fix that.>>109000136It's the same, go for it.>>109000161Depends on your use case (and mouse). I can tell 160Hz apart from 320Hz (dual mode monitor) quite easily while playing Audiosurf or Osu.
>>109000161It does, but you need to roughly double the refresh rate from each prior step to notice the improvement.So at least 240Hz or greater to immediately appreciate a difference coming from 120Hz, and at 240hz you want 480+Hz plus, etc. BlurBusters Law says we need to target ~1000Hz really:https://blurbusters.com/blur-busters-law-amazing-journey-to-future-1000hz-displays-with-blurfree-sample-and-hold/Also with any high-refresh rate, the advantage is really something you only appreciate after being used to it and getting forced to use a lower refresh rate after to appreciate what you lost. For example if you are used to 120/144Hz, going back to a 60Hz display would be agony.
>>109000208You missed the train last year.Now you have to pay at least double for storage and 4 times as much for RAM.
>50 series super refresh is meant to be uncancelled and out in Q4 2026 or Q1 2027>RDNA5 is on track for Q4 2027I guess AMD and Nvidia are thinking the AI bubble will burst soon
>>109000208lol no, you're like at least a solid 6 months lateMaybe if you reuse ram and storage it's not too terrible.
>>109000208It's really bad. The caveat is that it might still be the best it's ever going to be, at least for gaming.
>>109000222Alternatively maybe they are internally seeing catastrophic discrete sales losses, which even if a rounding number in their financials, would induce panic in investors if uttered as part of presentations during stock conferences. Also could be Mainline System Integrators/AIBs with pitch forks and freshly grinded axes at their doors demanding they do something.
>>109000222I don't know how you came to that conclusion.First of all we didn't get any official announcements for any of those GPUs.Also AMD rarely launches their cards before nV. I don't see why they would not do the same this time.
>>108997130no mention of operating system.
>>109000242https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-50-super-is-back-on-track-geforce-rtx-5060-12gb-reportedly-plannedhttps://videocardz.com/newz/amd-board-partners-reportedly-expect-rdna-5-gpus-in-mid-to-late-2027
>>109000322I know about the rumors, but those aren't confirmed by AyyMD and nGreedia. So I don't see why we should care.
>>109000188>>109000209i checked sizes hows Thermalright Frozen Prismalso hows the Thermalright LCDs?
>>109000345Since when do AMD/Nvida comment on upcoming products? Why would they willing cannibalize their already nearly-unsellable consumer hardware in the current market?
>>108999928They're not going to make any more of it because they no longer have a CaseLabs from which to steal designs and then make shitty knockoffs. They got sued over it a couple times as I recall. The SWEfag CaseLabs 2.0 will hopefully get up and running though, because I've about run out of patience for cases being exclusively glass fishtanks with no expansion or modular capability., overall.
>>109000399Listen, if they don't advertise it then it's either not coming or far into the future.Both companies don't care about selling GPUs to gamers at this point.They clearly change their decisions based on market conditions and consumers aren't buying right now. nV uses their refreshed GPUs as a way to reset the MSRP but cards are already above MSRP so there is no point.
>>109000032Almost all the other ones are basically whitebox rebrands of the same old Asetek OEM design; it has gotten better over the years but that's the core of it - it typically comes down to fan variation and then aesthetic stuff like displays or whatever RGBArctic basically is a step above because they have a thicker radiator and a better cooling block than most as its a custom design, plus their fans are pretty solid too. All of this for a good price has it coming out on the top of a lot of comparisons.
>>109000482what is difference with max and pro fans
>>109000524One goes>vmmmmmmmmmmmmThe other goes>WoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>109000208its bad for poors and most people are priced out of certain desirable componentsyou can still get pretty decent pc by making compromises, ram and high end gpus being the biggest onesif you can stick to ddr4 that saves money, if not you lose out couple hundred on ddr5 compard to year agohigh end nvidia gpus are msrp + 30-50%, but 5070 is still reasonably pricedyou dont want amd gpus but those are reasonably priced due to most people not buying themssds cost double, but you still get 2tb nvmes for 250€ so compared to ddr5 its nothing big
>>109000606If I had to guess its labor and people are so desperate for these cards cause of high demand that corporations or rich people are just willing to pay that amount to get them.
>>109000606Most likely black market smuggling of cpus and gpus since America banned a good 1/3rd of the world from having them because they were being naughty. There's a whole industry in smuggling them now since AI became a thing the military became interested in.
>>108997879>>108997910VRAM frequency downclock to 60% is excessive, it will probably save the card than 5W of total power draw going from 90 or 80%.The bigger thermal and power efficiency gains will come from undervolting + OCing the GPU, like setting the GPU to run at 2800MHz @ 900mV if that's stable.
>>108997062>tomshardware>We have 14 rasterization games we're using for the latest test suite:>Controlling one nigga>Controlling one nigga>Controlling one nigga>Controlling one plane>Controlling one nigga>Controlling one niggaFuck offfffff
>>109000411Why would they not make something they have repeatedly shown and CES and Computex this year?
>>10900032212 GB 5060 Super and 18 GB 5070 Super would be pretty sweet. Both cards could be amazing value if they come out near the non-Super MSRPs, considering MFG and new DLSS versions. The 5060 Super will be basically a 720p upscaling card and the 5070 Super will be basically a 1080p upscaling card for raster and light RT. None of the RTX 50 series cards are really future proof if you want cutting edge tech like neural rendering. It'll be interesting to see how much more expensive DLSS RR 4.5 is. Might make 4K DLSS Ultra Performance PT viable on a 5070 Ti
>9070XT$480 on AliExpress >32G DDR5 6000Mhz 36CL RAM, 7800X3D, ASUS B650E MAX Wifi$599 at Microcenter>darkFlash PMT850 PSU$80 on Amazon >Thermalright Frozen Infinity 360 AIO$55 on Amazon >Lian Li Vector V100R Tempered Glass ATX $70 on newegg. Honestly could have been way, way worse. This is like $800 under current market value.
>>109000208Absolutely not a good time, but if you don't mind a $500 premium because you really need something then as always, it's not worth waiting. If you have something that meets most of your needs and isn't an annoyance to use, then obviously wait for new GPUs, either RTX 50 Supers or better yet RTX 60 in like two years. I doubt two years from now will be a great time to build either, but it'll be better than now. Not worth waiting for the next five or six for that optimum time to buy if you disposable income
>>109000761>9070XT>$480 on AliExpressyou could put that money towards a 5070 sold by a reputable seller and save some problems
>>109000761You've done well.>9070XT$480 on AliExpressThis is a bit sketchy, set a lower boost clock & power limit.Should be fine if it's a major AIB.
>>109000161Yes and with MFG you can easily max out a 240 Hz monitor even in single player games
>>108998774This but unironically
>>1089987679070 XT is worse though
>>108997568Not worth for gaming. 5070 is better in practical scenarios
>>108997415You generally combine FG with DLSS. 4K DLSS Performance looks massive better than 1080p DLAA, so if you're getting only 30 FPS at 1080p currently then it's probably time for a new card.
>>109000783>save some problemsWon't be my problem because I'm going to sell it.
>>108997415DLSS retard, no one plays at native now.
anybody in here who's owned both nvidia and amd gpus in the last couple years? I'm wondering about the software side of things >>108998774
>>109000865DLSS alone makes Radeon irrelevant
>>109000865Nvidia drivers are dogshit on Windows and Linux today>Nvidia cards suffer noticeably under CachyOS and lose a significant amount of performance. We also observed some strange behaviour between the RTX 4080 Super and an additionally tested RTX 4080. In UHD and WQHD, the supposedly weaker model achieved higher frame rates than its bigger sibling. The latter also showed a gradual reduction in frame rate over time in UHD after each new save-game load. Since this was not observed at lower resolutions, we suspect an issue with memory handling. We cannot provide more detail. Based on experience, Nvidia cards and their drivers remain unpredictable.
>>109000874FSR4.1 is better than DLSS 4.whatever now>>109000865Nvidia is too unstable
>>109000865Look at AMD stock price vs Nvidia stock priceAMD is better
i always turn off DLSS people actually use that? and say it looks good?!
>>109000884>FSR4.1 is better than DLSS 4.whatever nowIt's comparable to the upscaling that we had over 2/3, it'll be half a decade before maybe they push out something that's still worse but getting close to first gen transformer (Remember there's a second version that's even better now lol)>>109000911How are you even playing new games without just putting everything to low or using a 4090+ for 1080p?
why does the op recommend chinkshit KTC monitors. is this a le ebin troll?
>>109000911You should upgrade your shitty 1080p monitor at some point.
>>109000921MH:W is the perfect example i just uninstalled it. Cyberpunk 2077 looks great DLSS off, so does BG3. what new games would you recommend?
>>109000891maybe if the geforce division was a seperate stock. I think all the ai shit right now makes any comparisons on that front worthless
>>109000865On nvidiaTheres consistent driver optimizations for big games pre-release. Their gpus have massively larger userbase and game publishers prioritize supporting their key features, dlss, frame gen, reflex.Cuda is a key feature for productivity apps, many apps only support cuda gpus and wont work on other brands gpus.Nvidia invests all key graphic improvements, and others follow on several year lag. Nvidia produces highest end gpus so you'll see all the youtubers using best nvidia gpus and talk about the high end experience which leaves non-high end nvidia owners yearning to be part of the cool kids club.Nvidia traditionally was the best for streaming, but apparently with 90xx gpus amd somewhat catched up.Nvidia has earliest and most investment in AI stuff, so they have software features utilizing that. Theres video super resolution, video sdr-hdr capability that works on youtube and mpc hc. Nvidia app has game filters that can add stuff like sdr-hdr, record gameplay footage, the usual.They tend to be relatively good on watt per frame.Nvidia invented Ray tracing for games so their cards have always been best at it, tho 90xx closed the gap. For path tracing nvidia can be the only option as their cards perform much better than even 90xx cards and some games only support nvidia. Nvidias ray reconstruction is better than alternatives.Nvidias transformer model upscalers are insanely powerful and can produce a clean image from very low base res. Multi frame gen has even frame pacing, can produce up to 6x frames and target a specific fps.amd:good for raster perf per dollar?They got some things rigth with 90xx release that used to be terrible, like upscaling with ml techniques, decent ray tracing.bad at everything else? I only ever owned an amd igpu.Their ray regeneration is a bit underbaked.Their features are hardly supported because publishers prioritize other things.
>>109000962>Theres consistent driver optimizations for big games pre-release.lie t 25 years of nivdiaone day i had go to bios to shut down 3d particle effects because it caused crash nvidia driver
>>109000212NTA but if I'm only playing at 60fps, does 60hz or 120hz matter?
So I want to control everything like pumps, fans, and ARGB from one system and bypass any mobo control.Is Aquacomputer controllers generally the best?I see a few anons using the software and was curious if it's being supported well and I should expect it to keep working for the long term
>>109001016yes and nowif you play cs2 or dota2 you want 240fpsif you play god of war 60 is good but if you have money to burn you can try to get 120
