Is everyone using llm's to do all their work? I'm working with 2 pajeets and we have a jira board of tickets and we take turns just using claude to complete them. Wtf is the point of hiring people if one person can complete all these tasks. also why the fuck do jeets smell so fucking bad

It's been 1,5 years since my last job and it wasn't even tech. Should i go for masters now?

>Within 6 applications of using an ai resume generator to apply, I get an email asking me to interview
I should have tried this a long time ago...

>>109003508
the only time i "use" an llm is when i google how to do some basic task in one of the dozen loonix distros we use and it's usually wrong because every distro comes with a different shell with different built-in commands and slightly changes functionality of core shit like fucking ls

Just 3 more days of pytorch, then 2 days of tensorflow then ill be all caught up on my stacks then I can start leetcode 150 all while working on my project. I sent 10 applications yesterday, what do you guys think is the chance I hear from someone this week?

>>109006383
are you even ensouled? why go into tech if you dont give a shit about any of it

>>109006461
Whether I give a shit about tech or not does not matter because my being is permanently and foreverially entwined with computers and digital information and loving it.

>>109006490
how old are you

>>109006496
Logically 22

>>109004653
link?

>>109006383
im thinking of learning pytorch and langchain. need to brush up on python first
>t. javascript monkey

>>109006529
so 35
yeah youre cooked

>Senior Cloud Engineer
>"in this position, you will also act as a software engineer"
Ah so this is where the industry is going? People will need to know everything now? Supported, I suppose, by chatGPT?

Binary classification linear neuron. Weights and biases randomized. New linear equation created. Numbers go to final layer. Final layer sees in this randomized equation that usually when number is greater than 5 label is 1. Loss function evaluates loss. Back propagation, weights and biases adjusted. Process repeats. Loss function evaluates. Gradient descent. Logit sigmoid.

>>109006941
all of that for three strawberries in "r"

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>>109006857
What do you mean going? It's basically already there. See "devops" for instance.

>>109005238
>every distro comes with a different shell with different built-in commands and slightly changes functionality of core shit like fucking ls
I thought most distros just used bash by default so they should all behave the same

>>109006383
Is finishing deepml exercises worth it ?

senior qa automation engineer here, ama

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>>109009183
Is there any hope for QA in the future? Will companies ever hire QA engineers?

>>109009219
with the amount of slop being generated currently, for sure

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LinkedIn and Indeed aren't working. What's the new meta?

Unemployed 9 months now. 100 applications, five pre screen interviews, one 2nd stage zoom interview, zero actual interviews.

>>109009252
That's what I've been thinking as well. Guess it's a waiting game.

>>109009271
Try https://hiring.cafe/

>>109009271
for linkedin if you want newer job posts just search you role in the job search bar select 24 hours and change the number to a lower number at the end of the url TPR=r86400

>>109007473
they have different builtins and different versions of kernel level stuff (or at least unix-era "may as well be kernel" stuff) like just how to navigate directories

on one type of thing we have that we have a gorillion of, but it's really just a loonix pc inside, even modern FSCK docs don't help me because the version on those is missing half the switches but has a few (very poorly documented) extras

Tired of HR roasties scheduling interviews for ghost positions just to increase their LinkedIn networks and practice. This should be illegal.

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Day in the life of a (suicidal) 23 year old underemployed (former) SWE
>5:00 am wake up
>5:25 am - 35 minute commute
>6:00 am - 8 hours of my bullshit office job (spending all day doing repetitive shit no one else wants to do in excel, word and powerpoint) under glaring white fluorescent lights having to constantly hear beeps and whirrs and other bullshit from office machines and my boomer coworkers talking to themselves or yelling on the phone or at each other (I got this job through my uncle and it pays a whopping $20 an hour!!!) (this is water torture)
>2 pm: 50 minute commute home
>3 pm: shower, walk my retarded fat dog, spend an hour or two jumping around my modded minecraft world doing nothing (I can't even enjoy video games anymore, I get home and stare at the screen doing nothing)
>5 pm: 3 hours studying / working on projects
>8 pm: leetcode reset, do today's daily question + another 1-2 questions for practice
>9 pm: 2 hours searching linkedin and monster for jobs to apply to
>11 pm: cry myself to sleep
might not make it to christmas

>>109009553
You’re in a better version of my situation and I’m not planning on killing myself. Admittedly though I think about it a lot.

>>109009553
SWEs deserve the rope. never met an SWE i liked. IT janny making 60k (before tax) btw

>be me
>four years experience before layoff
>bachelors in software engineering
>full stack experience sql, .net/python/java, html css
>applying to anything even junior/entry levels
>being repeatedly declined offers because "I am not a fit for this role" and don't meet the requirements
>"At this time, we have decided to concentrate our attention on other candidates who we believe best meet the requirements of the position."
What? This is an entry level position with requirements that said a college degree was even "ideal but not required"

>>109009823
It's a ghost position bro, just for HR to pretend they have something to do. No one is hiring juniors.

>>109009823
Something like 50% of all openings are fake and most of them are for junior roles. So your application was likely auto declined so HR can tell management they are still looking and fake productivity

>>109009885
>Something like 50% of all openings are fake
it's more like 80% now

>>109009933
Just checked yeah it is. I fucking hate HR

>>109009553
We do this for 40 years and then we die.

>>109010079
No. nobody does this. I've learned that first hand. It's only the zoomer / service worker underclass. All boomers work like 6 hours a day on email jobs, take 30 minute paid lunch breaks, and then go home.
I always thought my dad as a staff mechanical engineer was a hard worker and then I found out that he does the same shit. He's on PTO or vacations every 2-3 weeks and when he's actually working he takes 2 days a week hybrid and the other 3 days are like 6 hours of work.

>>109009553
how can you be suicidal when you make progress on your learnings. unless you're not making progress on your learnings...

>had two separate interviews two weeks ago
>haven't heard back from either of them
I'm so fucking tired

>>109010366
get ready to do it again for 4 rounds with the next company that contacts you

>>109010252
because 4-6 hours a day "learning" (working on stupid projects and reading docs) isn't anywhere near enough to get up to the skill level of an actual SWE that develops applications for millions of users. you need to be exposed to a work environment where people actually know what they're doing and have the chance to read existing codebases and contribute. I could make an app that supports a few thousand users. But hundreds of thousands? not a chance, and at my current pace it will take me years to learn.

I'm visiting a escort for the first time tomorrow, any tips? I'm already:

- Bringing my own condoms
- Showering before
- Taking a few swigs of whiskey before
- Bringing cash only, nothing else (don't need cards, ID or keys)

>>109010408
It also doesn't help that no matter how much I learn, it's never enough to get a job offer. I've been doing this bullshit for 8 months now and every interview there's always 1-3 questions that get thrown at me and trip me off. Like in my last interview the guy asked me how I would implement a generic function across 8 different classes using interfaces, but 2 classes had a unique implementation of the function.
Like logically the correct answer would be
>make a superclass
>define the function there
>subclass inherits the function and overrides any properties it needs to
but the guy was asking how to do it with an INTERFACE and I couldn't for the life of me remember if interfaces can contain already stored properties / functions. Like... what?? And he also asked me a bunch of shit about how the runtime environment prioritizes workloads across multiple threads on low resource environments... FUCK

>>109010421
nigga u gon get whiskey dick

>>109010446
use a decorator niggs

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>>109002420
Service desk anon here, again. Manager wants to enable screen recording on my device. Time to start getting more creative with my slacking

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I haven't had an in-person conversation with another human in over two months.

>>109010396
>implying anyone else will ever contact me

>>109009314
>>109009314
ty anons

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>>109009553
Never kill yourself, man. It gets better. I really feel bad for you zoomers, this market is incredibly demoralizing but you have to grit through it and do your best. Good luck Anon, know that you are loved.

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>>109010829
>>109009553
Killing you is a job for the enemy. Don't ever work for free.

Today was my first day of my new job! I have posted about this job here a couple of times; I said I was worried it would be terrible because it pays £24,785 a year and the company is owned by Indians.

It turns out the company is being subcontracted to be the service desk for a different company, and that's why the office isn't listed on their website or anything. The office is about 70% non-white people, which feels a bit strange. I'm no racist, and the guys I met today all seem like bros, but when you work overwhelmingly with Africans and devout Muslim women in hijabs and shit, it doesn't feel like an environment that will ever feel like a family like my old job did. On top of that, I don't think it's actually an IT job: I think I might just be doing customer service for an energy company. Thirdly, apparently the company hires new starters in large groups normally. Like, they'll hire ten people at a time and train them up in classrooms. That didn't happen for me, because of the ten new starters, nine of them didn't show up or pulled out after finding a better job. So only I started today. Also, if they hire 10 people every few weeks and the company has about 150 people, that suggests to me that even the people who work there tend to quit pretty fast.

Lastly, I was surprised to see a friend of mine there. He works for the company that we are contracted to, and he is some high-flying IT boss there. Meanwhile, I am starting my new job there that is on a par with taxi drivers and takeaway workers.

It took me 10 months to find a new job. I am not going to quit. I will not quit. I won't.

>>109011167
we live in hell

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>>109011189
hell is an eternity of broken things, but we are evil people who thrive in such an environment. everything is broken, and poorly designed in the first place, and the alternative is boring

>>109011319
I don't know who you are, but you aren't the poster he's replying to, because I am. And he's right.

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>>109011348
and am I wrong? no plan goes correctly. nigga's right to not give up immediately. there's times to give up on individual tactics, but you have to navigate the world based on others' individual tactics. maneuver warfare, and all that shit

>>109011167
>I am not going to quit.
you are going to use this job as a stepping stone to something better. start looking again in 6 months for more pay

>emailed an HR woman asking about the interview
>we're waiting on the head contract giver to get back to us haha
FUCK YOU
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR THEM TO TELL ME TO FUCK OFF?

Is video editing a good career?

>>109011965
No
Anything video related is awful cause AI will eventually consume it all

How deep do background checks go re making up a startup, giving it a webpage, linkedin with some fake accounts, and saying you worked there during your "gap".

>>109009553
>grad swe 2 years ago
>only ever got 1 interview where I got filtered by take home assign
>had to find ANY job due to asshole gen x dad introducing 600 a month cuz now that im not in education he did all he could, "time to pull up bootstraps"
>get shitty lawn care job for months. 6 day weeks, 6am start, lots of labor. Serviced many Mcmansions in pretty areas. Lost a lot of body fat.
>ffw several months, get min wage receiving job for grocer, instantly bounced lawn care job. Didnt give 2 weeks due to manager being a prick who laid off new people constantly.
>rcving job was piss easy, 70% of time in break room shitposting waiting for trucks. Never got in trouble.
>thru nepotism get job at costco, pays decent, with hp benefits. 5am-10am
>accumulate bag from jobs and stocks, well enough to live above check 2 check, stockpiled so much Im financially free for mid 20s single dude
>dad progressively gets more and more pissed off about me not getting into swe field and not being a normie
>reached breaking point, accuses me of being main reason my parents will divorce
>threatens to kick me out in a few months
>move out a week later w/o telling, found comfy basement apartment with all necessities, quiet housemates, cheap rent
>before leaving came crawling to me with long convo about family, played along but still mostly cut contact, only interact if mom invites for dinner
>live comfy, no stress from parents hounding me
>dropped receiving job and now just work 28ish hrs a week with a shit ton of savings invested, being frugel due to everything being garbage today and waiting for something worth a damn to spend money on.
>happiest ive been since early childhood days

>>109006612
I vibe coded it ;)

>>109012407
>cs grad working at costco
im glad you're happy but this is still depressing, in a just world there would be a chill helpdesk job where you get paid double your current salary to fuck around with laptops.

>>109012360
they will send a single email with a form to that domain (you can give them hr@domainIBoughtYesterday.fake). That's it. Any more and they would never be able to hire a single Indian. As long as you weren't literally in jail at that time, of course.

Hell you could send it to my domains and I'll give you two years as a "software engineer" and a "hr specialist" signoff.

>>109009219
QAs are usually the first to go nowadays. The current approach is to shift testing to end users unfortunately

Just figured out a foolproof way to get a 6 figure wfh job guys will let you know once i succeed

>wfh for big consulting company
>project dies because client can't afford it
>some coworkers laid off
>I get a transfer to another project
>zero meetings
>not even introduced to the other people in the project
>get assignments only if I repeatedly ask for them
>solve some tickets
>get stuck on a ticket
>need help from the person responsible for that area
>don't know who that is
>ask project manager
>no response
>ask random people
>finally find someone related to it
>guides me to a person who can help me
>two days of getting ignored
>finally get a 5 min call
>"uhh I am not sure anon, I will check it out tomorrow and I will tell you"
That was two weeks ago. I have spent the last two weeks watching movies, playing with my cat, fucking around the house and browsing the internet. Nobody has asked me anything. Project manager has forgotten about me. The other dude too. I am a ghost now. Even that ticket is not officially assigned to me.
Should I just roll with it until I get fired and find a new job or should I go back to pestering people until someone helps me?
I don't like this project and this year's salary increases were cancelled, and I am underpaid for my experience, so if I get fired I will at least get some severance pay.

>>109013888
start looking for a new job

>>109009553
Doing research, taking initiative, starting your own SaaS is more profitable and easier than landing a SWE job in this market. Most who get jobs are hacks who exploit their network, not necessarily those who are good at the trade. That gives more reason to focus solely on being your own boss than the alternative.

>>109013996
please kill yourself ASAP

>emailed company asking for status of interview
>"we went with someone else haha"
WHY DID I HAVE TO EMAIL YOU FOR YOU TO TELL ME YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

>>109014753
If you have to ask the answer is always NO, faggot. Stop caring about interviews and keep looking for the next job.

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I'm being scraped they're scraping me but I need my super cool secret project set to public so potential employers can see it right?

neets too lazy to bump their thread

>Be me
>22 yo IT Help with some programming assigned
>$18/hr, highest I've ever earned
>Non-profit I work at dedicating to assisting 3rd worlders invading here
>Finish up college, ask about going full time
>Told to wait until meeting with vice-president of company
>Wait until then
>Expect to go full time
>"Too many people on IT and our budget doesn't justify having you."
>Let me go on the spot
>Instantly escort me out, no time to steal company secrets and get revenge
>Eventually tell mom about it (huge mistake)
>Get yelled at on call
>Mom applies to super suspicious company SkillStorm
>Tell her it's very suspicious
>Get literal ChatGPT response from her telling me I need to accept
>Keeps recommending jobs back at home
>Tell her multiple times I don't want to move back home, doesn't listen
>Apply to safe job at wine store where former coworker lived
>Church friend tells me about some jobs she found
>Rejected by both.
What do I do now? I'm applying to roughly 5 jobs a day

>>109018107
Just keep trying. It will take several months, but you sound like you're doing everything right.

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Closed already? Dammit! I was adapting my CV to the application and must have lost track of time! I would have cleaned up this place nicely, but what bums me the most is that I truly needed the money.

This sucks this is the worst job market I've ever seen and I was in the pool before covid, if I don't find something soon I'm gonna look at non-tech jobs, but I have no clue what I'll do long term if I can't do computers.

>>109013888
Manager here, I have like 40 people under me, you can't expect me to remember every single employee's issues
If you're not sending me reminders there's no way to know if you'r edoing ok
Ping me and I'll try to help you.

>>109020434
hi!! can you get me a remote dev job working on swift or rust

>>109020474
Maybe, but I doubt you would want it, I'm from LATAM and salaries here are like half of what US pays.

>>109013888
underpaid? youre being paid to do nothing tho...

>>109009252
no I have my AI check its own errors, QA is dead

>>109020489
noooo :(

been a month since they pressured me to quit, toxic place so i left anyway, got enough savings for a while. probably gonna take this month off, and then study and reskill. is it worth it?

>>109020490
Would rather get paid more to do something

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>>109020495
Yeah, that's why quality of software is at an all time high right now.

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>>109020434
Do you fags need a devops faggot or something like that?

>>109020513
what is worth it?

> spend the past two months writing 1 (one) cover letter
> it still reads like trash
> I still have no idea
> used ai models for it every last one only produced long trash
> use claude
> it cuts it short to two sentences and tells me in a passive aggressive way to take it or leave it
should I take claude's advice and just not hand in something that follows the standards?

>>109021483
don't overthink any part of the job application process. you should focus more on volume than quality.

>>109021443
Yeah but salary is like $6k/month and it's contractor work, you probably not interested

>>109021491
This so much this

reminder that /utwg/ has a job board if you want to hire people from this thread
https://utwg.fren.work/

>>109021508
Yes, I am. I'm a contractor.

>>109020434
>Manager here, I have like 40 people under me, you can't expect me to remember every single employee's issues
i pretty much rely on this to do very little work

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what are you guys doing today? I haven't looked at the job bank in a week. It was mostly home care jobs that I don't think they want some neckbeard fat guy to help their grandpa with.

I went for a walk to clear my head. I finally was able to have a mega shit and stopped being constipated about 15 minutes in. I hope that is not the only productive task I complete today...

>>109021990
im learning SQL

>>109021518
thats pretty neat

>>109022003
I think it gets hardest when you make optimized queries across multiple tables.

>>109021508
I'm the anon from >>109021884. If you're not a scamming piece of shit you can reach me at 4chanzz@pm.me.

>>109018107
it sounds like you need to stop talking to your mom and change industries, like, both, yesterday

Rejected 8 times in late stages
Each time I either gave them the ick, only had 99.99% of the experience they were looking for, was asked some vague open-ended question with no feedback or dialogue as they stared at me like a fish for an hour before calling me a retard, or was just asked something nonsensical that straight up had nothing to do with the role I was interviewing for
Each position has been open for at least 6 months and is reposted weekly on linkedin to increasingly dwindling number of applicants
A few have been taken off and I strongly suspect they didn't fill the position
My interviewers were at least a few minutes late almost every time
I have never had such a humiliating and depressing experience with the job market, it was never this bad before
I feel like I'm reaching the acceptance stage and will soon pivot to healthcare or something

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>>109009553
you're sleeping 6 hours a night and doing 3 hours of studying after an 8 hour shift, bro idk how to tell you this but you are retaining absolutely 0, its like going to the gym but you sleep like shit and eat like a fat pig, you're getting 0 gains

>>109022724
> before calling me a retard
Like they literally said "....**....retard!" ? I have applied to over 500 postings. 0 interviews in over 6 months. Ive never had anything close to a job offer on linkedin. I think it's for people who know people, not really to get in the know. I dont know. Indeed is 100% scams. Monster doesnt function. Zip recruitor is shit. The only success ive had was hiring an actual recruitor. So expect a pay reduction for their finders fee. And even then its unstable employment. Usually fill in gigs that last 1-3days with months in between. The only thing stable ive had is working (for free) as an intern. But all its done is cost me gas and time, however its prevented me from having any gaps.

>>109022724
takes a lot to be rejected in the final round. i'm sure they are not happy to do that after all the effort and time they've put into. you're doing something very wrong. or you're interviewing at companies that don't value time and employees

>>109023477
try applying to google
>application updated - 1 day ago
>application updated - 30 minutes ago
>application updated - 2 hours ago
>application updated - last week
>application updated - 25 minutes ago
>not proceeding

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>>109023499
Nah I'd make it

>>109022614
I've had thoughts of pivoting to construction (I took a class in it during Highschool) but I'm a skinny White boy plus not many new apartments are going up here (Milwaukee area).

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>using claude to study
>claude shit out 3 leetcode style prompts that test me on concurrency and memory management
>sure thing! give me your submissions when you're ready

>>this submission is only a C- because of (requirement that wasn't in the problem statement)
stupid clanker

>just send 50 resumes a day bro
there is almost no job offer available, where do people fucking find 50 offers to apply to?

>>109023999
What's the population density like in your area? Lots of jobs near cities. Introverts need to think of a way to create jobs in more comfy areas. Like what if there was a website where you click on your town, hit I'm looking for a job, then you get matched up with other people in that town also looking for a job and now you can start a new business together in that town? How many anons do you think it would take to start a successful business from probably very little money? (Maybe we could all sell our switch ones for some startup cash)?

>>109023999
you can relocate. many companies offer relocation

>be me born and live in a 3rd world shithole, likely have autism as well
>desperate for an entry-level job
>finally got into a crappy internship, for any chance of full-time eventually
>red flags appear more and more each week, as if it wasn't glaring how bad it seemed in the first place
>culture is mandated to be oversocialized
>everything is like a joke
>ihateithere ihateithere ihateithere
>try to shoulder through anyway, since i virtually got no other chance at all
>huge meeting now
>a guy praised how great and how somebody rated a certain intern highly
>i thought they were talking about me, mind too sluggish and blank to be cautious and process well
>"yes the 'late' guy"
>thought they truly talked about me, raised my hand
>"pls stand up"
>guy by my side stood up, now remember his name literal meaning is 'late'
>mind blank
>sweat like insane, realized how hot everything is
>try to socialize with everybody laterwards to feel less insecure, and to pretend i just raised my hand to wave at the guy next side

There's a hell load of craps if anybody's interested enough to ask.

>>109024260
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCENTf_LWYA

>>109022724
what about technical interviews and such?
also, what was the job for web dev. or actual programming shite?

>>109023999
Work-from-home jobs can be done from anywhere in the world. That's why Indians apply for them all in such leviathan numbers that you will never, ever be able to get such a job, even if you are good at it.

>>109013888
whenever you end up homeless but unmonitored, either start prepping a job search, or find a manager you like by networking and ask for an internal transfer. Go through official channels if they have them for when a manager quits.

You wanna move quickly as your promo timer is 100% reset when in this state, you're accruing no time. As a bargaining chip,you can win the love of most managers by saying
>Do you have any tickets or work on your team you'd want someone to take up, I have free capacity and literally nothing else to do as my manager's AWOL, I want to be useful.

It also gives you a useful answer to
>what do you even do here?
because if you do a good job of it, it's very rare your manager's manager can't fit you into their headcount or someone else's, and if it doesn't work out, the other manager gives you a glowing review to wherever you're going next as either an internal or external reference