>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 250K, 14600K, 7/9600X, 7/9800X3D-Budget: 225F, 7500F, 12600KWorkstation: 270K*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5*New sockets likely next year*On Raptor Lake microcode updates are mandatory, avoid second-hand>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-6, MX-7, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt, 5060-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5070, 9070-Used: 3080, 3080tiHigh-end : 5070ti, 9070xt-5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Previous : >>108997055
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>>109005079>tomshardware>We have 14 rasterization games we're using for the latest test suite:>Controlling one nigga>Controlling one nigga>Controlling one nigga>Controlling one plane>Controlling one nigga>Controlling one niggaFuck offfffff
>>109005076today im setting up a bazzite steam machine for the living room and remote streaming for the deck>16gb ddr4>5600g>asus micro atx b550>lian li a3>6950xti just hope the cpu and ram still works i found those in the drawer.you all think 5600g would be enough for 60hz gaming on tv?
>available 1896 atx cases>188 WITHOUT glass panelnot a fan of this trend
>>109005139
>>109005116get the 5800x3d when it comes out
>>109003965>>109004861Reposting
>>109005236cute
>>109005209a 400 buck 5800x3d just to play some games on the couch and remote stream with sunshine server?at 60fps?that is a bit extreme dont you think?
>>109005236the white aio cables are obvious horrible, also why is it white?the gpu power cable is prob better router from aboveits weird to have the front usb cable coming from that hole instead of nearby onethe 2 fans under the gpu seem goofy, I doubt you can even see a temp difference during stress test with them, or if you do it'll make more noise then a pc without them
>>109005251it'll do the job for the next 10 years
>>109005076Are those fuckin' Perino tomatoes. Hell yeah.
>>109005309its likely a cheap variety of plum tomatoes
>>109005298at this rate my next pc in 10 years will be a used office pc with intel core 200
>>109005309They are kaufland tomatoes for 35czk/250g
Could you make dyson-style pc fans?
>>109005448laptop fans are kinda like thatthey pull air in vertically and its forced through the entire chassis at 90 degree angle
>>109005448Those are just a normal fan in the cylindrical section blowing into a weird funnel.Just look out for those ion thrust fans, I am interested to see where the tech goes for doing something different. Crossflow fans are just a gimmick by comparison.
>>109005495>Just look out for those ion thrust fansthose have been proven to cause cancer.
>>109005507How, when they've existed for all of six months.
>>109005076It's not a good idea to have cheese that close to a cooling fan.
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rejects-ryzen-9-7950x3d-warranty-claim-after-cpu-swellingHE BUYED BOUGHTED AYYMDEAD DEFECTIVE BY DESIGN AM5
Hey guys, long time lurker first time poster, I've noticed recently that my fan control no longer works. I don't believe I changed anything, but whenever I force them to go under 49-53% it jumps up to those percentages again. What am I doing wrong? I remember this working when I first set up this PC. And I did not change any components.
>>109005838Do you have the nvidia app? It might be interfering.
>>109005841I just checked but it's on 30% too.
>>109005838adjust case fans on the bios, and let cpu and gpu on auto
I saw this setup on reddit and as somebody that have built a few very simple utilitarian rigs... i have a couple questions.The mobo is "upside down" so to speak, which i assume is just a feature of that case allowing you to set it up in either direction, i think that much i gotHOW IS THE 5090 connected? is just cables going from behind to back connectors on the mobo?Im just trying to learn a bit, thank you.
>>109005851You can see the riser cable on the pci connector of the 5090. I guess it's routed behind everything and going back to the pcie mobo slot. The white ribbon cable.
>>109005851it's a lengthy riser cable
>>109005851>HOW IS THE 5090 connected?a very long PCIe riser cable
>>109005849Did that now, went into my bios and changed it from "smart fan control" to "manual" and set it to 30%. Nothing seems to have changed.
>>109005875uninstall fan controlif your fans are NOT pwm then changing pwm values don't do anything, you'd have to change voltage values
>>109005862>>109005873>>109005874Yeah now that i know what to look for i see the cable.Thank you anons
>>109005877Maybe it's me being stupid but I remember fan control working... And how come there's a question mark next to my GPU, isn't that supposed to work regardless of my fans being pwm?
>>109005890the pwm thing I meant on the bios
How many years is the 5070 going to be viable for??? I fucking hate AMD and refuse to buy any of their shit cards and also fuck having no cuda cores.The 5070 for $600 is a pretty good offer at my local walmart, however that 12gb is fucking disgusting. I don't really know if I should buy this card
>>109005913Wait for the super refreshes
>>109005913Should be viable until Feynman GPU release year
>>109005919What's even the point of the rumoured super refresh now. Are they going to delay the 60 series even more?
you should have buyderized a blackwell 6000 by now
>>109005913It depends what are you going to do with that GPU.Every GPU right now is a scam, so you just need to pick the least retarded option.Performance wise you are buying 3090 or overclocked 3080 12GB with fake frames on top. So a high end GPU from 2020 but with much lower power draw.RAM capacity is just a joke, I would say it's borderline today and you will have to make sacrifices very soon.
amd should launch a rdna 4.5 refresh with a flagship and keep gddr6 because gddr7 shortages are going to keep delaying rdna5 until 2028
>>109005672thank god i bought a 14700K instead
>>109005913>The 5070 for $600 is a pretty good offer at my local walmart, however that 12gb is fucking disgusting.In a world where the 5060TI is only 20-30€ cheaper the 5070 is probably the best offer nvidia has for performance/dollar spent. That said 12gb sucks donkey nuts but the 5070 TI is about 270-300$ more expensiveThe 5070 is a good buy @600 if you can't pick amd for whatever reason, but at those price i would still pick a 9070xt for 650.There are no good options
I mean, a 9080 XT with 32 GB gddr6 and just a tiny bit more powerful at $750 msrp would sell a lot, people really want the vram for AI.but idk if it can be done because the 9070 xt already has memory chips on the backside of the pcb
remember, never buy radeon
>>109006015>when you zoom in too close to the bouncing anime titties in your hentai game.
>>109006015looks like a dogshit cheap setup>wifi6e in the age of wifi7
>>109006015>gayboy and his fishtank pee see gets destroyed by wild and temperamental 7900 xtxbased amd, the cards themselves teach teh twinks about building proper systems with adequate air flow
>>109006015remember, never buy geforce because the drivers dont work on windows 11, windows 10, or linux.
>>109005988people will not buy non-cuda gpus for aipeople wont buy expensive amd cards, because people with expendable income can afford nvidia
>>109006027TruthNuke. Just look at AMD vs Nvidia stock price. AMD drivers won.
>>109005970Radeon cards will get delayed because nV will delay 6xxx into 2028, shrimple.AMD is the controlled opposition.
>>109006028normies are retarded and care about cuda, AI enthusiats know you can run anything on radeon right now, and if amd makes a 32gb card for $800 msrp (900 street price) it would sell out
>>109006037amd will make whatever soc tech for consoles and dpgus are downstream from thatnvidia doesnt really matter for amd outside of what console makers demand, and they demand graphics features nvidia dpugs had since 2020
>>109006028people will not buy non working gpu drivers aka rtx
>>109006055See >>109006030
>>109006042i dont think anything runs on radeonlarge operators may buy amd if they know a specific thing they want works on it, but hobbyists will not exclude themselves out of new ai stuff that is made specifically to run cuda by default and has a small chance to be ported on other cards later
>>109006060you sound like a clueless jit with outdated dxil.dll
>>109006060you have no idea what u're talking about
>>109006060Nigga Nvidia drivers DON'T FUCKING WORK. Their stock price is literally HALF of AMD due to this.Read the room, Read the charts, Stop being a Stupid Fuck.
are mods gonna, you know, do anything about this?
All the cool AI shit is happening on MAC & Linux not Windows and Nvidia sucks at 2/3 of those.
holy fucking melty
>>109006015>huh why are so many chinese cases like $50 whats the catchoh, that's the catch.
>>109006073>Read the room, Read the charts, Stop being a Stupid Fuck.
>another strait closed>RTX 6000 2028????
>>109005851Its stupid, I LOVE IT!
>>109006460You just have more time to save for the next BFG.
>>109006464Did you see the 3d printed exhaust hood at the top onto a window?
>updating my pcpartpicker build over the course of months to be more and more expensive>spend so long doing this eventually realize that the next generation of of cpus gpus and ram is coming in 6 months>decide to just upgrade the fans on my old pcAnyone else do this?
Thoughts about the Gigabyte MO27Q28G? I would buy the ASUS XG27AQWMG like the OP but it doesn't have a VESA mount and it has the stupid angry logo emblazoned on the front in bright red. I like how simple this one looks although it's a tandem WOLED with supposed grey banding issues.
>>109006576theres so many monitors coming out its hard to keep tracks of it allI would avoid the gray banding monitors, the asus has an adaptor for monitor arm so its not a real problem
>>109006592Wait, I just double checked the XG27AQWMG and it's also a tandem WOLED with banding. What monitor should I get then?
>>109006624Filter by your preferred size and sort by price from high to low.
>>109006624if you have a good nvidia gpu you could just get a glossy qd oled 4k 240hz onedlss transformer model does a good job upscaling from 1080p
>>109006576you can turn the bright red led off so it looks like just a black chin hanging off the front
>>109005981lmaomeanwhile, back in my day...
I should sell my 4090Wait no I'm holding onto it in case my 5080 or 5090 die
>>109006672that was back when people bought cards for gaming
looking at this monitor for 230€Looks like amazing value. what am I missing?(looking for high ppi/small screen 1440p monitor for gaming)also where do people talk about monitors? (pls no reddit)
>>109006688incorrect, it's 2024 and was for crypto
>>109006696crypto on gpus was kinda dead by 2023at least the fucks stopped hoarding gpus for that purpose
>>1090066814090 is goated. i regret selling mine for the 5090
>>109006696*2023>>109006702yeah, secondhand price range back then were 750-900. unicorn prices like mine sometimes popped up if you're lucky, and no doubt it's cryptofags offloading their rig to recoup losses during crypto boom crash.
>>109006021I am losing my patience thermaltake
>>109006849Is the entire front HDD racks?
I'm looking to change my mouse.I'm looking for:>no rubber grips>7-8 buttons>ambidextrous (two buttons on each side)>wireless>optical switchescan you guys help me find something decent? i currently have the viper ultimate, which has been great, but the rubber grips are wearing and it's just disgusting to hold.
>>109006859It can be, or it can just be 5.25 baysBottom chamber can hold 15 HDDs.
>>109006576I have it. I like it so far but it's my first OLED so I can't really compare color and stuff. The coating is matte but it's really impressive compared to my now secondary IPS, it has basically no glare in comparison. It had some extreme grey branding for the first few hours after unpacking but it eventually went away, dunno how normal that is. Would have returned it if it didn't, it was obvious enough to notice in normal use.The power brick is a bitch to manage on a monitor arm though, there's not enough cable length going to the monitor to keep it below my desk. I had to figure out a way to secure it to the arm itself.
>>109006849I love them, but at this point why not just get a server rack
>>109006993My plan is just a very sane custom loop while still having room for NVMe hotswap and just being generally easy to service.There is also a plan for the secondary side where another mobo would go but no one is ready to comprehend that. I don't plan to use the other side for another system but I do plan to use the PCI slots.
Wtf.
>>109005919Too long>>109005964:(>>109005981Do I just fuck it and pay a grand for the 5070 ti?? I don't wanna touch my machine with upgrades for the next few years at least.
Is it absurd at this point in time, with a 5900x, to buy a miniITX B550 motherboard and attempt a small build?I don't see any way in which I can upgrade my CPU without spending a lot of money at this point or in the near future, hell it might be my last build.However the prospect of buying a new motherboard for AM4 kinda sounds silly.
I built a pc for a friend for his office, he was planning to just use the integrated graphics cause his old pc has a radeon hd 7400 2gb (picrel)Is it worth to leave it on? i mean he is only gonna open pdfs and youtube, so i was wondering if the integrated graphics on the 9600x ryzen are just outright better or if using the card is betterAny opinion would be very welcome
>>109007240>Do I just fuck it and pay a grand for the 5070 ti?? I don't wanna touch my machine with upgrades for the next few years at least.I dont know your budget friend, only you can make that choice.I do believe that 12gb ram is gonna be enough cause devs won't have any other option than working through those constraintsThen again over 5 years the 300€ more on the 5070TI come out at like 5€ a month...I guess its gonna be more about you having peace of mind with your purchase
>>109007257Why do you need ITX build in the first place?AM4 motherboards are still plentiful and mostly cheap. But if you go with ITX you will pay premium.
>>109007301to do a smaller build, I have full ATX right now
>>109005919Never going to happen>>109007240I wouldn't bother, 70ti is way too expensive right now if budget is at all a concern, hopefully things are better 5 years from now. As of right now with the 5070 even at native/quality 4k you would almost always just have problems with performance way before the 12gb is limiting.
>>109007306You clearly had enough space for that PC in the past and now you are going to spend I don't know but around $300 to get a smaller box. Minus whatever you do with your old hardware.I don't know what kind of CPU cooler and PSU you have right now but anything decent won't fit inside ITX case.
>>109007345I just want some extra desk space and I don't want my PC on the floor where it's prone to be knocked about by my chair and gather even more dust than it already does
>>109007283I mean I definitely can stretch $400... it's just that I'd hate to pay $250 over msrp, whereas with the base 5070 I'm paying like $50 over msrp.Future proofing is a real concern tbqh because year after year shit just keeps on getting fucking worse and I'd have to wait until 2027 to see if the AI bubble explodes or not.>>109007313Read above. Yeah from the benchmarks I've seen on youtube the 5070 seems fine at 1440p rn, but with the imminent release of the PS6 shit will deteriorate real fast. That's hella annoying.
>>109007370I would simply mount the PC under the desk, there are multiple cheap ways to do so. For that money you could do better things than downsizing your PC.
>>109007257You can get a b550i for $90 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/G6VG3C/asrock-b550m-itxac-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-b550m-itxacIf you want a itx case recommendation get the deepcool ch170, it can fit massive air coolers like the noctua g2 etc so you wont lose out on cooling. Also you said you want to save space, the vertical form factor is better for that.
>>109007390There's no space for that at all I'm afraidAt that point I might have to end up changing the whole fucking desk as well which won't set me back much less than what I proposed
>>109007403I don't know, sounds like your desk is awfully small anyway.Why not simply extend your cables? You really don't have anywhere to put that PC? Tiny room?
>>109007377>but with the imminent release of the PS62 years isn't imminentAnd even then just look at how long it took before we saw games targeting something ps5 tier as the baseline. 8gb didn't even start having real issues until last year.
>>109007393I'll check that out>>109007431Cables would either need to be absurdly long for that sort of setupIt's fine, I'll keep it as it is.
RTX-NTC makes the 12gb discussion irrelevant
So this is definitely not worth $2300 right? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1957032-REG/apple_mbp_m5p_03_14_macbook_pro_m5.htmlI have an m3 macbook pro but I'm kind of tired of ARM in general. I am a gaymer and apple is just not it for gayming
>>109007525nvidia recently announced arm laptopsmaybe they're good for u
>>109007525You can get a panther lake b390 laptop for that price and you never have to deal with macos again whilst getting 4050 performance on an igpu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d26LNi0FTrQthe 9070xt beats the 5070 ti yet againit's very obvious to see now that at launch the amd drivers weren't there yet because nowadays every game that launches the 9070xt beats the 5070ti by a small margin instead of losing by a small margin
>>109007525wait for panther lake unironically, this is the worst time to buy a laptop, stuff is old and expensive
>>109007560Panther lake is already available
>>109007540Yeah but if we're being honest won't RTX Spark be underperforming expensive trash?
>>109007554Where path tracing and framegen and ray reconstruction and DLSS transformer equivalent tho?
>>109007604cpu wont compare well vs the appleor x86 offerings but the gpu is fine and it has a lot of unified ramyou can game on it and do extreme 3d modeling
macs are not actually made for gaming even though they have led a false advertisement campaign where they say that they are. my m3 macbook pro 18gb can only run cyberpunk on low. yes it gets 60 fps but so what? that's objectively terrible.
>>109007748Do they advertise as gaming machines? Not like it would matter much, nobody is buying a mac for gaming.If ever I game on mine it's just rpg maker porn games.
>>109005139dear ceres have you yet seen custom corsair ad
>>109006015jizz glued glass shrapnel everywhere you must be proud
im literally just going to give my rog zephyrus g16 laptop away. fuck this space heater. it literally gets microstutters playing basic ass indie games. i looked it up and it's a manufacturing issue. i guess i learned my lesson. never buy gaming laptops. or any asus product.
and look i know im outing myself as a retard but in what universe does a laptop with an i9 and rtx 4090 mobile gpu take over an HOUR to download cyberpunk a 50gb game. bro this shit is crazy. thats why i dont want this piece of shit.
>>109008367google "gog" and install the installerthen buy the game on "gog" and let the installer handle it for you in the background while you do other things
>>109008367It do be like that. Do you have hwinfo? Check if you aren't thermal throttling.
>>109008477>>109008367>Downloading repacksAm I getting baited?
>>109008513fitgirl makes it simple lil bro. and you can choose not to download 100gb of bullshit. you realize cyberpunk is literally like 120gb through steam right?and even if it is a repack it should already be done.
>>109008367Well that laptop i9 is probably throttlingPrice you pay for halving the download size
>>109008367u're not downloading anything, maybe u only have 8gb ram
hi /pcbg/I am an amateur pc builder (I've built a couple before) but i always like to get a second opinion on my upgrades before i purchase them.Current Build:>i7 10700kf>16gb RAM>3060>600w psu>nvme m2 and about 4 SSDsI am looking to upgrade to 1440p for gaming and have it last at least 5 years.Upgrades:>MSI SHADOW GeForce RTX 5070 12GB GDDR7 PCI Express 5.0 ATX Graphics Card RTX 5070 12G SHADOW 3X OC>Corsair RMx Series RM750x ATX 3.1 750w PSU>AOC Gamin Q27G4ZMN 27" 1440p monitorIdeally I'd like a quieter graphics card, and honestly the monitor is just an AI suggestion. I know nothing after 1080p. Is the 750w PSU upgrade overkill? Can I just keep my 600w one. Thanks for any shit flinging and advice.
>>109008642psu is probably fine, you can simply test it out, if you get black screens you can underclock the gpu5070 is very efficient card.
>>109008477>>109008538it is throttling but there's nothing i can do LOLgod this shit is a cosmic joke
>>109008742How is it dying with 45W tdp?
>>109008803i dont know but as i said this is just proof asus and their products are dogshit. it is insane what corpos can get away with."j-just maintain your laptop bro" what do you want me to do go to an african gem mine to get the minerals to make new components from scratch?
>>109008855buy one of those notebook platforms with a fan, they provide amazing results, you should also change the thermal paste for ptm 7950, those two things alone can net you 15+c better temps
>being forced to buy and build a PC for local AI models at work>get to the RAM and GPU>nearly $3K and $5K, respectivelyI'm not sure I'm ever gonna get to build a personal gaming PC ever again
>>109008742Stop looking at numbers you don't understand.
>>109008741thanks, any recs on the monitor?
>>109008933is that 256 and a 5090?
>>109008960theres like a barrage of oled monitors and miniled monitors announced, so specific monitor is hard to sayin general for 5070 id rec qd oled, glossy, 4k, 32", no samsung tizen osbut some newed woled with rgb strip would be perfectly finea va miniled is going to be fine for people who want to avoid burn in
who 'waiting for spark' in here
>>109008855My work laptop was a Chromebook that was an Asus Expert bookI've literally never had a laptop crash as frequent and as often. If everything wasn't web based, I would have chucked that thing months ago.I loved the HP I had even if the battery was shite
>>109008933whats the specific apps being usedI imagine most companies either sub to an external service, or they invest in a rack with actual nvidia high vram server chips that can run 1tb models that employees can securely tap into, and they wouldnt need to suffer some tiny local llm
>>109009014I'd love a spark, but the sku I want is going to cost like 2k
>>109009014>>109009130not buying a cuckbox. the rise of cuckboxes is going to be a really interesting study in 10 years. mac mini = cuckboxsteam machine = cuckboxrtx spark = cuckboxthey are just gonna keep making these, huh?
>>109009211it really is a new era of computing
>>109006681
>>109009237More like a new era of poverty.
>>109008977128
>>109009211they've been making them for more than 20 years, if you haven't been paying attention then you're an idiot.
>>109009070We're just a tiny team of 3 guys. We were gonna do more research before going local and were just using Claude $200 plan for non-confidential stuff, but one guy decided to go and use it for something confidential, and the other idiot let it slip that we used AI on it. Now we're throwing together something local in a panic so this shit can't happen again. I don't know the first thing about what apps we'll be running. We'll be trying to use it for code and documentation, and QA shit
>>109009508>3 man team cares about ai confidentialityreally? I doubt anyone would care unless they're legally mandated to, like its legal case or medical
I have a 360hz OLED monitorI noticed when I have DSC disabled, I'm still able to use 360hz just fine through HDMI, I'm still able to enable HDR as well, but it's being displayed at 8bitI'm not noticing anything weird, just colors not being too saturated. I don't see any banding.Where can I see an actual difference? Of course enabling DSC or lowering down to 240hz shows the options to switch to 10 and 12bit depth.
>>109009508do you actually need the 5090 or cuda? amd sells a 32gb vram card that costs half of it
>>109005076>macpro m2 mlx does speech to text faster than 4060ti onnx
if I had to build a local AI tool I would probably just buy one of the strix halo 128gb ram boxes that cost $3000, I think it's the best performance/price in the market
>>109009555>3k plus tip for 40tps
>>109009593you can load bigger models, it's more important than speed, 40 tokens is faster than you can read anyway
>>109009539dsc is lossless you cant see a differenceofc if you go from 10bit hdr image to 8bit sdr image thats noticeable
>>109009605I'm not asking about that. I'm saying that I have DSC disabled which is supposed to limit the display to certain options like 360hz at 8bit, but that I'm not seeing a difference between 360hz at 8bit on HDR and 240hz at 10bit on HDR. My understanding is that HDR requires 10bit but it's not there at all.
>>109009602I get 40tps+ with my 1500$ computer running a 26gb model (4060ti and 5700x)
>>109009634to have a 10bit vs 8bit image comparison test you likely need some banding test pattern stuffmaybe check youtube hdr videosor avif hdr images
>>109009634NTA but Windows has a pseudo 10bit mode when the display signal is still 8-bit but HDR is enabled. It dithers the colors to give you an illusion the color depth is higher and hide the banding.It's something that is actually hard to notice because the desktop and apps are 8-bit and SDR. You'll need some proper test images/video
>>109009536It's the company we're doing contract work for that we're concerned will care
>>109009546Idk. Boss gave me a budget and said "make it fast"
>>109005164sovl
>>109007525>I am a gaymerbuild a pc
>>109007607not allowed you have to use raster only like it's 2006 but it's not that's still an unreal engine 5 game you are using on raster only
>>109009677https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2IGHj7KQoMI'd use this but with 2x strix halo pcs or maybe just one and pocket the rest of the cash
im buying the $2300 m5 macbook pro with 48gb of ram. all i play is runescape anyway.
I know it’s stupid to ask but what would be a proper upgrade to a 6950xt if I plan to play games at 1440p soon?I think 6950xt is capable of running modern games at 1440p at 100+ right? there are no current test videos only from 3 years ago so not sure
>>1090098825070 is currently the only reasonably priced upgrade, 5070 ti is a bit overpriced50xx supers may come in 8 months, or not.
>>109009916>5070 is currently the only reasonably priced upgradepsychopath stuff
>>1090098827900xt probworks great for me
>>109009882that card does 1440p just fineregardless just buy top tier previous generation from amd, it gets huge discounts, 7900xtx is probably very cheap right now, when rdna5 drops rdna4 will be well below msrp
>>109009882Quite bad time to upgrade, but it can always be worse.5070Ti or 9070XT are the least pricy options worth considering.New cards are still at least year and a half away, super refresh if it ever comes out will be even more expensive.If you care for benchmarks, 6950XT isn't much faster than 6900XT without overclocking and in newer games it's around the performance of 7900GRE/7800XT.
Not sure if this is the best thread or anons can point me in the right direction. I've just slapped together a windows gaymen pc and now i'm not sure if hdmi or DP is the best option for screen connectivity. Both ports (with DSC) can handle the same resolution and refresh rate (though hdmi seems to support a 12 bit connection to my basic knowledge is there is no 12 bit content out there). Where I get more confused is my gpu supports hdmi 2.1a which I believe the a revision means source based tonemapping but as far as I can tell from my monitors manual it is only a hdmi 2.1 port. Thus my questions are really;1) Does them onitor need to be 2.1a for tonemapping to work?2) Given this is plugged into a windows pc does that support such a feature?I'm still learning all this HDR related malarkey.
Can I still buy a decent midrange PC for like under $1000? I need a PC that can run work stuff smoothly like Blender, Unreal, Adobe apps, etc. and also run games smoothly.
>>109010060lol. why do you think people are unironically buying used macbooks?gaming is dead. luckily you can play runescape on anything!
>>109010060right now the best budget pc would have a 5800x3d, 32gb ddr4 ram and a 9070xt (high end) or 3060 12gb (low end), those are the best price/performance hardware
>>1090100601000$ barely gets you entry spec now
>>109010054just use dp
>>109010060Could probably scrap something together based on lga 1700 + a 3080 or maybe even a 5070This is assuming 16gb of ddr5 and either a tiny amount of storage or you bringing an old ssd.
>>109009685oh shit I had that one in 2000
purely from a cost pov, does it make sense to buy a barebone mini pc with a ryzen 7 gipu + ddr5 sodimm and upgrade with a oculink egpu later? I've got a spare ssd to insert too, so I wouldn't have to buy that extra.I know that technically tower pc's are the most cost-efficient, but as someone who likes to stay in the entry to midrange tier anyway is there any point in building a tower pc? For now, my money is tight and even a tower without a egpu and only 16gb ddr4 would probably cost me more than a mini pc setup with 32gb ddr5 and 780m. I'm also tied to what Amazon has got to offer because most of my budget is a Amazon gift card.
>>109010223nope. everything is sky high right now. highly recommend sticking with what you have.
I wish I wasn't so lazy.I should sell my old DDR4 platform but I don't want to deal with retards. Woe is me.
>>109010060cut your expectations in half for now.
>>109010214But isn't Blender a cpu pig as well as a gpu pig?
>>109010361I mean people make do with much less
>>109010237>everything is sky highCPU aren't.>Azon>AMD Ryzenâ„¢ 5 9600X 6-Core, 12-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor>$179.00>List: $279.00
>>109010361increase the budget a bit and you could get a 250k or 270k
>>109010374Blender also will crash if it runs out of ram/vram, if poly counts are high enough.Honestly, I think the advice would be build what you can and get what is that app, substance painter 3D? idk, one of those that won't crash so easily.
>>109010382What makes it suck so bad is the days of a steal of a deal are gone.
>>109010060Try used market fishing or microcenter bundles.
>>109005076finally pulled the trigger anons. i've been exclusively running used thinkpads for years and am excited to finally get to play games made this decade. i think i wanna try elden ring>9070xt>Ryzen 7 9700X>2x16GB DDR5parts will be in end of this week. gonna be comfy
>>109010496>Ryzen 7 9700XInstead of 7800X3D? Did you get some great deal or what?
>>109010496>9700X
go away
>>109010496gz but elden ring is like a ps4 era title in terms of graphics, my 1660 super had no worries running it on high at 60fps (the game is capped at 60fps). Not that are any new games worth playing anyways
>>109010573Sorry, your post doesn't count, it needs to have a gif from the mossad cybecafe pack.
I'm thinking of upgrading to a RX 6600 and Ryzen 5 5600. Only a couple of things - my PSU is pretty old (like from 2017) and my motherboard is as cheap as they come but the 5600 doesn't seem to be that much different than the 2600 in terms of power.
>>109010517>>109010520yeah i wasn't sure if it'd be worth the upgrade but after looking at benchmarks it seems like it probably is. just modified my order and swapped in the 9700X3D>inb4 he bought it because /g/ told him to
just bought a 9070xt, hope I don't regret it
>>109010606Oof.
>>109010605*meant to say 9800X3D>>109010573nice, and yeah it's quite old now but it's something i've never been able to run
>>109009768I was joking about buying the m5 macbook pro for $2300 by the way.For that amount of money I should probably be considering just building a real PC.But I'm just so tired of full tower slop.
>>109010496enjoy your build anon, and it's good you got the X3D cpu, it allows you to use slow ram on games without much performance issues
>>109010606what made you select it over nvidia?
>>109010237Well I've got nothing except my old ssd. I had a very cheap mini pc as a daily doomscrolling/office device for about three years before it died. Thankfully had warranty so I got my money back at least.but yeah I suppose another mini pc would be my best option considering the prices of everything non-CPU. Just keeping my options open since I'm not in a rush right now and amazon prime day is this month.
>>1090106315070ti being double the price
>>109009766Thx anon you might have just saved me like 6000 bucks
honestly i should probably look into selling the m3 pro right? i mean resale value is insane for apple devices.im also the guy who posted the dogshit rog zephyrus g16 if you scroll up. i bought a $50 laptop cooling stand off bhphotovideo. i honestly doubt it will do much because i've read up on asus shit a lot. apparently newer asus products are all just dogshit and have manufacturing and firmware issues. i'm honestly surprised they haven't been sued if you can even win a lawsuit against them lmao. but yeah i got consoomer brain. i dont NEED to build a pc yet like i am actually more content with the mac than u would think. like i think people overestimate what they NEED to play. think about how powerful your average device is today. you can do a lot even with shitty mac os. i can emulate thousands of games ive been enjoying ps2 kino. idk sorry for the ramble tech slop is real
>>109005076Keeping my RX6700XT, according to techpowerup a jump to a 5060ti would be 30% and 85% to a RX9070 the 5060ti costs 300 euros here and the 9070 600the GPU market sucks so hard right now
did Gigabyte give an exact release date for those new B850 stealth boards at computex this year? or they still giving that shitty end of Q3 response
>>109010701rdna is aging like wine on linux, it gets like 10% better performance than windows right now
>>109010736does it get lower temps too since most of the bloat and shit from windows isnt there? only thing stopping me from moving to linux is literally one game I play alot is windows only atm, otherwise id have to get a tablet to play it
>>109010701650€ for 9070XT is still not bad, it's not great either.Shame 5070Ti pricing is still beyond retarded, 950€ or more.
>>109010743if its some gachashit, I can guarantee it works with dwproton. There isn't a single chink gacha that doesn't
FellasNeed a monitor 32-42"Not OLEDNot curvedNeeds good colour accuracy/deep blacks for photoshop/video colour correctionDon't need 5000hz for gaming, but low input lag for fighting games would be good (less than 16ms)Don't care about playing games at higher than 60fpsMinimal ghosting thoughAny suggestions? Seems like monitors fall into gaming or production categories and I want something inbetween, leaning more towards productionThis has been the hardest part of speccing my new setup
>>109010751I don't think I can justify giving over 600 euros for a new GPU
>>109010786you can get 5070 for that mount
>>109010786I'm not judging, I'm just saying it might get even worse.Higher end GPU lasts longer as well, unless you get used to high performance and you end up upgrading every generation.
>>109010770its Team Fight Tactics not gacha shit
>>109010784get the cheapest $100 monitor, you will know how your content will look like on 50% of the users who may consume it.20% of people on steam hardware use 1440p.
>>109010813riotshit is a nono on linux no matter what, adding vanguard to LoL was such a retarded decision
>>109010801I didn't say you were or poor shaming, I'm saying that I don't see a world giving that much considering most AAA games look like absolute shit with the exceptions of 1 to 2 games.The only reason I'm tempted for a 5070 is because Davinci Resolve utilizes it very well and generally in editing which I do a lot you can benefit from a better card
>>109006030goysumers account for less than 1% of nvidia's revenue or business model at this point. nobody buys nvidia for stable drivers, because unless you're buying a superpod you're not getting that shit.
realistically speaking how long can a 9070 xt carry my ass on 1080p?
>>109006672>mfw bought the same thing (non-OC) for ~$720/~3000PLN in late January 2025Well at least it was still cheaper than it is today lol, and also a great upgrade from a 1060. And it should last me until the market stabilizes and Nvidia has a generation worth upgrading to, Blackwell was a wet fart due to essentially being an Ada refresh. So obviously a few good years of mileage ahead.
>>1090108509070 xt is a 4k card
>>109010865the prices on those components are terrible but it'll game fine
>>109010865>Anus>AIO>RGB RAM>Dark Flash ??? PSUNegative s0vl. 2/10 would not fuck.
>>109010881oh, thats cheapwe dont get those kinda deals here
>>109010865Wtf is that PSU?
>>109010881very decent price
We need intervention in the market. Since nvidia, intel, and amd refuse to produce compute-oriented high vram "ai cards", Congress needs to step in and break apart their consumer and corporate product divisions to reinstitute incentives in the market.
>>109010945kill yourself my man
>>109010945People who are able to regulate those companies get paid by those companies.Good luck.
>>109010984found another problem. bizcancer investors:>>109010970
>>109010934Cheapest B+ rateded one I could find on the PSU tier list.
>>109010945Explaining why it is necessary:The bedrock of what's needed to drive innovative products getting released is there: the technology, the demand.Additionally, the relative power of local gear is so low that it is computationally incapable of cannibalizing corporate sales. It's like saying shovels cannibalize Caterpillar's equipment sales, just dumb.What happens is that companies have a social dynamic, and markets do as well, driven by investor excitement. If some product isn't "slicksuit cool", it's just not going to get made, it's basically career poison to be involved in the uncool things.For this reason, it is necessary, and beneficial to all that b2b and consumer ai compute be divide by Congress, in each company which has it.
VOTE FOR ME*NO I DIDN'T RAPE THAT LADY THAT MOSSAD SAYS I RAPED
>>109011052I will vote for you, platner, mossad can't fool me
>>109011028Stop cheaping out on psus while you are buying RGayB AIOS fucking retards
>>109010850Forever
The server is officially being retired boys. Say goodbye. This server started life as a pentium dual core. It introduced me to server hardware, ECC memory, IPMI, etc. The Xeon e3-1231v3 and 16GB of ECC DDR3 suited my needs for quite a while, but hard to justify keeping it online when even a laptop chip these days can do more work using 1/4 the power.
>>109011155...but explosions are part of the fun!
>>109011238I'm retiring all my haswell servers for panther lake or later in the next few years
>>109011238I'm not using any servers only because of electricity bill.It doubles every two years. I hope you will keep him and all the good memories that came with it.
>>109011271Im currently combining my gaming PC and server. I found that as time went on, I started fucking with server stuff less and less and was essentially using my sesetup as a glorified NAS. I think I'll end up just buying one of those 8 bay Synology NAS units, stuff it with 20TB HDDs and calling it a day
>>109011290It's being retired to the closet with the rest of the parts that technically still work but I haven't thrown away. I still keep a single slot passively cooled GT710 and GT210 in my closet lmao. They make excellent troubleshooting GPUs.
>>109011297going close source is always a bad choice
I thought getting a computer would get me a girlfriend.
>>109011321nta, but my work uses a NAS why is it a bad choice?
>>109011369because you're a hostage to whatever they update, you can just use debian for a nas and you have complete control of your system
Budget $1500Country: United States of AMERICAI already have an AMD Ryzen 9 5900x NIB just lying around too so I want everything to be compatible with that.
>>109011403Well, you can use http://pcpartpicker.com/ to get started.
>>109011297Synology is garbage company, after what they tried to pull-off last years I would think twice about buying their hardware.https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Synology
>>109011238How much are people paying for power?I plan to use pic related as a router basically forever just because the pay back from power savings for literally take decadesSame with my NAS
>>109011427So what brand NAS would you get that has similar level of support and cross platform compatibility, app, etc.
>>109011440Power per KW/h idk off the top of my head, but my server was sucking dow 90w at idle. Being run 24/7/365, I was paying $15 a month just to keep it on. When my entire power bill is around $70 a month, the server is a fat chunk.
>>109011398I'm sorry, but I know very little about NASes, I was under the impression that it wasn't something like a cloud but just a drive on a wifi all networked computers can access?
>>109011476it is just a computer with hard drives, you can easily run one with debian as the base distro instead of being hostage to this >>109011427
>>109011494Why would I need one though? I don't really see the use case unless you have multiple computers in the house, maybe?
>>109011467I assume that's with HDDs because my router thing draws about 23w with an E3-1246 v3My dual E5-2690 v4 system pulls 220w but realistically I can't change it much because the 13 HDDs are the vast majority of the power and more are going in at some point.
>>109011537my pihole sbc draws like 3w I assume, I power it with a phone charger 5V 2A, so max 10w but it's at 10% load max most of the timeopnsense needs to start releasing aarch64 builds, I'd want to install opnsense in it instead of trixie + pihole
>>109006576i have a rog xg32ucwg and i like it a lot. the gloss is glorious. i didnt feel like paying several hundred more for 240hz 4k because what the hell can even run that anyways.
>>109011426https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T7YXkDok I tried, it's just for a general purpose PC that can play some older games with good frames.
What is a quality Bluetooth adapter? Mainly want to use it with PlayStation 5 controllers
>>109011624I use a ugreen one
>>109011519You would need one if your desktop case doesn't physically fit the number of drives you need, or if you have a laptop that doesn't fit any drives, or, yes, if you have multiple computers that need to access the same files.Other than that, a dedicated nas doesn't really do anything that you can't do with a desktop, but if you have one the marginal cost of setting it up as a media server, web server, torrents, or whatever else you want is basically zero. So you can just tuck the nas away in a corner somewhere and not have to run your desktop 24/7 to run your services. That's generally the more interesting point for home users versus just a simple NFS/SMB host, but whether that is worth the extra cost of the hardware is more situational if you don't already need more drive bays.
>>109011733I honestly just delete shit to make space, I honestly can't think of needing that much space unless your doing some sort of digital creative work or something to do with AIs on your spare time.Those are the only two really good reasons I can think of other than "SIX MILLION TV SHOWS I'LL NEVER WATCH" or "8 TRILLION SONGS I'LL NEVER LISTEN TOO", if I'm being completely honest.
>mfw i grind down the fan shrouds of my artic freezer 3 so it will actually fit on the top of my h440
>>109011789That is the DIY spirit. If it doesn't work do whatever it takes to make it fucking work.
>>109011811based
>>109011811does that fan even do anything?
>>109011855Yes. It cooled the vrms by a few degrees which was just enough to keep my overclock stable. I was essentially shunting 150-170w through a mobo that really was only built to handle 125w and I tracked my crashing down to the vrms getting too hot.
found this at the local gualmar. should i scalp it? >inb4 not ddrfyve
>>109011811We'll just ignore my ssds being yolod into my case instead of mounted too. I've been doing this too long to care anymore. They don't hit any fans and everything works fine so fuck itttttttt. nvme is the way anyways, I just hoard data and steam games. inb4 buy a big hdd. I have one I stole out of an old security camera rig. I'll probably buy one once prices are not quite as stupid.
>>109011811Back when xbox 360s were a thing(and i went through EIGHT) I had to put the big power brick inside of a home made windtunnel to keep it cool which was just a very sharp piece of metal flashing I formed into a tube and stuck pc fans on. Worked fine, console stopped freezing.
>>109005076Has anyone here ever tried to make their own computer case? Nothing available seems to suit my needs, the cases that interested me are discontinued and the majority of what's around are fish tank and wood accented goyboxes.
>>109011983Probably not worth it
>>109012053A dangling SSD doesn't mean shit unless you are some sort of tard that throws your pc case around.
>>109012147looked around, that same kit is selling for 130-160 at other retailers. might be worth it.
>>109012127get a 3d printer
>>109008530last time downloaded a fitgirl repack my steam, paypal, coinbase, my other steam, reddit, and amazon all got hijacked. and no i dont re-use passwords. huge pain in the ass to fix everything.
>>109012127Search amazon for "aluminum strut computer case" to have a base to start with then sperglord around it
>>109012127lego?
Well everything is in the new (old) case. 46TB of hdd storage across 8 HDDs, 4TB worth of 2.5" SATA Samsung SSDs, and 500TB of NVME Samsung SSD for boot.They dont make cases like this anymore man. Cooler Master Trooper
>>109012339>500TB of NVMEi wish
>>109012339Do you have some meme MB with gorillion SATAs?
>>109012366It's clearly a HBA
>>109012349lmao meant to say GB not TB, fucking imagine 500TB>>109012366>meme motherboardnah, I have an LSI 9211-8i dual SAS card. It's the card at the bottom of the motherboard there. It's a PCIe 2.0x 8 card and it's in a slot that can only use PCIe 3.0 x2 but for 8 mechanical HDD's, I still couldn't fully saturate it.If you're ever looking to add HDDs there's always the Chinesium SATA cards that will probably die in 3 months, or you can spend like $50 for an LSI HBA and good cables, run 4 SATA HDD's off a single cable. Hell, with how mech drives are entirely for storage more than speeds these days, you can run an HBA splitter if you wanted to and run more than 8 HDDs off the 2 SAS ports.side note, these fucking Noctua's are loud af. I know that they're the Industrial ones but my God they're like a jet engine. Going to have to change the PWM curve in BIOS after I'm done seeing if this Arctic MX-4 I found laying around can actually keep my CPU cool or am I taking this thing apart again
>>109012335A Lego brick or better yet Technic has the potential to be a fairly stiff case, if bulky. Could work. Use superglue hold critical sections together at the cost of being permanent. Hell, I wonder if you could even rig up a functional RAM / VRM cooler with a Lego fan, since that's the least demanding airflow job.I'm sure SOME Legonut has built a PC in a brick case before.
>>109012528Early 2000's picture
So my monitor backlight died after 9+ years of usage. I don't think I can fix it and a new monitor is probably better anyway. What are good replacements when I had a 1080p 60hz monitor with a 3070? I heard this thing can run 1440p and I don't really care about 4k even if I had a card to run it.
>>109012637wat gaem
>>109012648gacha #67
>>109012675lol sounds about right
Any OLEDers? I'm currently using two of those budget MiniLED AOC monitors (1440p) and I was wondering if OLED was a good upgrade. Also I know it's situational but matte or glossy? My monitors are facing away from my bedroom window (the curtains are practically always closed anyway) but my center ceiling light is practically always on. I looked at the ASUS XG27AQWMG in the OP but the ratings are kinda low and there's complaints about grey banding. I was thinking of either the ASUS XG27AQDMGR (2ng gen refresh of the WMG), LG 27GX704A-B, or the Samsung OLED G6.
>109012778>he boughted the planned obsolescence burn in panel instead of just setting up an IPS monitor properly LOL LMAO EVEN
I want to build a new PC. Should I buy DRAM before any spike in prices?I want to build a new pc, now I can buy at least 32 GB of 7200mhz DDR5.I will take me another 2 months to complete the build, the remaining components will be purchased together.I don't see RAM prices going down in the near future
>>109012872Nobody knows what will happen to ram prices, but they probably won't go down very soon.
>>109012872prices aren't going to normalize for a long while. In fact, I think current prices are the new "normal". Nothing wrong with buying your build 1 thing at a time however keep in mind that if your RAM kit happens to be broken out of box, you won't know until you're out of the return period more than likely from wherever you buy it from. Then you're at the mercy of the warranty system.
>>109012829I just did these settings with my 2 IPS panels and honestly, what a difference. Not even meming. Granted I have some decent LG Ultragear panels but still. I refuse to buy any monitor with major possible burn in potential as well as horrendous VRR flicker. Feel like an asshole buying an $800+ panel only to be told it has a potential lifespan of 2 years before static elements burn in and/or I have to turn off a feature (g-sync) that I fucking paid for.
Next, migrate at your leisure>>109013046>>109013046>>109013046
>>1090050767800x3d is still relavent nowadays?tray ofc.
>>109012339Guess your next best bet would be a Define 7 XL with this amount of spinning rust.Man I wish I upped mine before the prices went AWOL, now I'm out of storage and out of luck.
