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FRIST!>>109016849>videoLMAOO
It's not really a great year to job hop is it?
What do you do about burnout>don't care about work anymore then>do the bare minimumBROTHER THAT IS BURNOUT
>>109017113Sorry anon, we don't all have the academic rigor and self discipline to complete go at your own pace, COMPETENCY based ABET ACCREDITED bachelor degree programs. If twer there no crop verily there'd thusly be no cream in turn as well.
WGU is ABET accredited? Wow!
>>109017156Post your job
>>109017146I hopped last month, trying to hop again for a 40k payraise
First for everything I don't like is jeets and real discussion is now impossible because I'm just going to spam jeets
>>109017173give me two months
>>109017155Suck dickPreferably mine
>>109017179Based
>>109017192Thanks anon, had 4 interviews this week so far, one of them looks very promising.
I'm in such a whatever state. Pure medium. Absolute neutral. It is what it is.
>>109017185cringe tryhard
>>109017199Better than most anon keep yourself hydrated.
>>109017171Does ABET actually help?
>>109017254For CS no lol. For actual engineering yes since its a requirement for PE licensing.
>>109017179Did it require you to relinquish any comfy time?Do you have to work harder?Was there any nepotism involved, or did you win the LinkedIn job posting lottery?
>previous boss was fired>new boss is aligned to C-level, and everyone says my previous superior will be fired>team is tiny now, my coworkers are relatively new, young, insecure and kinda ignorant>I don't want to take any responsibilities>actually, I want to get laid offso, my options are:- to try to get laid off by talking to this guy, either by annoying the shit out of him or by asking directly- to take advantage of this new situation (something I don't really care about, but it's possible)- to leave the company (I'd lose all my benefits, incl. severance, insurance, banking benefits, ...)wat do, and how? I'm really fucking tired of this corporate bullshit.
>>109017322MinmaxMinimize the work you doMaximize your interview skills
>>109017309Nope, if anything, I work less for better pay, and the leadership is way less retarded, but I still think I can get 40k extra. No nepo, yep applied via LinkedIn.
No seriously, how do I deal with burnout? I kinda need this job but having no clarity on anything is driving me fucking insane. Every quick call every ping every fucking project is making me want to drive off a fucking cliff. My life outside work is fine in fact I like my life outside work a lot. It's just trying to fund it by tardwrangling (stopped doing this because I don't care), seeing all my projects go to shred, and just being a mindless zombie for 9-5 (soon to be 7-7, thanks RTO mandate!) is not making me feel any better. I don't see a drive in self learning nor even being in corporate anymore because holy fuck everyone here is a damn stupid fucking loser and I hate all of you and all wagies executives all the way to the floor deserve to die in a huge fire.
>>109017594Burnout means you aren't being paid enough.
>>109017594>7-7, thanks RTO mandate!i would quit on the spot
>>109017530
>>109017600Nah, I got a promotion (with no added responsibilities*) and just burnt out harder because now I feel chained to the higher paycheck. >>109017613I'll be honest, I actually don't mind RTO or the commute there. I get on the train, finish my book backlog or take a nap then do the same getting home (although getting home is much worse since it's fucking crowded, even worse now that the world cup is happening in my fucking city). RTO is great if you like your coworkers and job, I had a job like that once and I was actually excited to go to work with my service desk buddies as we just had an wii in the back and hit up brawl when tickets were slow. However, my current company? Everyone's a fucking tool bag holy shit. I can't even socialize to the nicer people since I'm so fucking done with this shit company that I just want to go back to my desk and ram my head until I get an injury so I can take the day off.
>>109017650Do you have a gf/wife? Hobbies? There has to be something obvious missing.
>>109017666lots of hobbies, as I said I like my life outside work generally..... it's just that 9-5/7-7 is just holy fuck I'm in jail/house arrest and I could not really care about anyone here. nobody here is worth my time and none of this shit matters to me. I can't find a single good thing to look forward to here.
>>109017466I'm tired, and my workload doesn't depend on me. I could just do nothing, but that on itself could be an argument to be fired without pay.
>>109017729Ahedonia
>>109017777hehe nice digits. But I like my hobbies it's just the 40+ hours to afford it is torture. I constantly have the fight/flight mechanic here.
>>109017777Anhedonia
>>109017865who?
>>109017594You get used to it.
>>109017885It's been 2 years now. it's really spiking this current year though... felt this in my last job and I quit a year in but I've been trying to leave and nothing is biting. I miss my first job so fucking much. Fuck I actually liked my fast food jobs so much better my coworkers were hella kewler than all these boomer/gen x dweebs in here.
>>109017322Ask to be laid off but phrase it as “offering to take one for your teammates.” Managers love getting free chances to look good by “cutting costs”
I deserve a better job.
>>109017996You deserve a grave (mass, unmarked)
>>109017996fucking rights
>>109018075I will pwn onlookers with my massive unmarked grave.
>Called for interview>Uhhh you don't have experience in X, Y and Z so I don't think you will be a good fitMotherfucker I never said I did, my resume doesn't list those things either, reeee
>someone asks for a PR review, it's urgent>drop what I'm doing to review it>three months later they haven't addressed any comments or done anything with itWell fuck you too man
>>109018456why do you care
>>109018456neurotic much?
>dad calls me>asks how im doing>tell him im miserable because of my job>starts ranting about how im lazy and life is a journey and I need to enjoy itwhat the fuck is wrong with normgroids
>>109018687you need to work on your deliveryeverything is perceptionbut also, my mom would never do that. She loves me a lot, and would likely start complaining about her job lolwhat about you other twg faggots?
>>109018756Could be worse. Imagen being a graphic design student with no work experience.
>>109018463>>109018666Stop being a cunt and telling people you need urgent help if it's not actually urgent
>>109018840managers change priorities all the timeask him probing questions to see if he was a malicious cunt, or just dazed
>>109018806I forgot there are people who actually take out loans to study that. Geeze people are so stupid.
>>109018956CS game design makes more sense due to the fact that you are still programming.
>interview in 2 days on a framework I barely know shit about>have to study for it because the job is way better than my current one>get home>too tired to study>can't focus on shit
>>109017594scammax3 remote jobs at lower pay than the current job, do fuck all in all of themonly retards will tell you to be a good goy for corporate cucks
>>109019268>Are you experienced with TestRail?>Silooks like tutorials are only an hour long on youtube, piece of cake.
>>109019404I feel pretty decent at 30.. I will move out this year..god help me
>>109019404This is because the only role models zoomers have are TikTok influencers and kick streamers. If you didn't make it by 23 its not happening
>>109019463its actually because millennials are children while zoomers have grown up and accepted how shit the world is
>>109019535zoomers are the most blackpilled and cynical generation thus far, it's all been downhill for a while but I genuinely think they could bring in the next actual hitler.
colleague keeps misusing words and I can't bring myself to correct them>I'm not sure about the voracity of this information>this is an urgent, poignant task
>>109019561>zoomers are the most blackpilled and cynical generation thus farjust wait until Gen Beta arises
Why are React jobs gone?Why is every backend now C#?
>>109017146Moar of this sexy 2D?
>>109019575gen beta is raped
I just want a new job.
>>109019575They might be better since they could be AI babs. I could see that maybe stopping the trend.
>>109019573Why can't the task be poignant
>>109019680she meant to say pertinent
>>109019573>when the ticket is kafkaesque
>>109019573probably thought they were using veracity
>>109019687That wasn't my question
The job interview that might have gotten me out of the mega corp hell was cancelled today. Cars AC is acting up when it's getting hotter than balls. Of course some fucking idiot also caused an accident and blocked the two lane state highway.One day I will escape this rat race.
>>109019726irrelevant argument-seeking
>>109019729I had a roommate with car engine temp trouble. When that happened he said he would just pull over on the side of the road for an hour to let it cool off. He had the money to fix it, or just buy a new car. Something to consider
>>109019738I don't like the tomb of your voice
>>109019750you can inter what I meant
>>109019766need an AI-generated version in which he's stabbed to death by a dozen indian men
I'm not really cut out for this corpo thing
>>109019766Holy fuck if I was that indian shit I would commit suicide
Fabled 5 has killed /twg/. You just haven't realized it yet.
>>109019862Bro they haven't even released fable 4 yet. Looks like woke trash though
>>109019862>zero improvements over opus>they just made it consume a gorillion more tokens per tasksAI is unironically over. Its stopped improving, and when the money runs dry and costs skyrocket no one will use it for anything but the most menial simple tasks.
I've got one AI running models and suggestions on my investments, and another AI refining a project plan/tracker for a project at work
>>109019938I have the uncomfortable feeling that this video is AI, even if I know it isn't (the lighting surely can't be AI). It's the unchanging facial features
I just finished four rounds of interviews for a Senior Software Engineer role in Austin. The LinkedIn listing clearly stated a salary range of $85k to $105k. I know I am a bit younger for a senior title, but I have the technical skills, projects, and portfolio to justify something around $90k.The process seemed great. The hiring manager liked my ideas, and they kept saying they needed someone to modernize their backend systems and improve their engineering workflows. Then the offer letter arrived this morning, and I thought it had been sent to the wrong person.The base salary was $55k.They also sent a “Total Compensation” PDF claiming the package was worth $92k by including the cost of health insurance, a non-guaranteed 15% bonus, and a $5k “Professional Development Value” for access to an internal video library nobody uses.I called HR to ask if the base pay was a mistake. The rep talked to me like I did not understand compensation, then brought up culture, career growth, and “unlimited snacks” as if those pay rent. She said $55k was competitive when considering the company’s “holistic investment” in my future.They want senior-level engineering work for entry-level pay, then expect a benefits chart to make the offer look reasonable.I spent around twelve hours on the coding assignment and interviews just to get an offer that felt insulting. It seems like some companies post higher ranges to attract strong candidates, then hope people are too invested to walk away. I asked them to withdraw my application, and HR sounded offended that I did not find the offer compelling.Back to the drawing board. This market is exhausting.
>>109020031Claude, summarise this post into 3 sentences
>>109020040You are out of tokens.
>>109020046aw dude but I really wanted to finish Golden Axe...
>>109020040Reposted from reddit
>screening>interview>tech interview>same level future coworker interview>manager interview>C-level interviewWhy?
>>109020291The company's bragging about how much time it can waste. It's a humiliation ritual.
>work in IT>manager invents massive tracking system: daily logs, hour tracking, weekly/monthly/quarterly self-evals>i speak up, call it micromanagement, say it kills dev velocity>the day after our ceo sends company-wide email praising the system>ceo promotes the manager for his "amazing vision">i am now a high-risk target for daring to speak the truthMy ass is getting fired
>>109020324there are plenty of jeets who will glady get in the wagie cage
>at work thing with Gen X and boomers>all they fucking do it go to steakhouses and get hammered>nauseous in hotel room staring at ceiling wondering wtf I'm doing with my dumbass lifeevery fucking time, I just want to kms
>>109020324what did you possibly have to gain from confronting your manager like this?
>>109020346The fact I don't want a system tracking my mouse clicks 24/7 and having to write weekly/monthly/quarterly self-evals?You know that's bullshit.
>>109020420Become the owner or find a new job. Your employer owes you nothing, time thief.
>been stuck trying to fix a bug for a week>even asked other devs for help>they also couldn't figure it out>threw the new fable model at it, hooked up to all our dashboards and shit>one hour later it came back with the fixit's over
>>109020528AI is the future, codetrans.
>>109020345i wish i had your money and house
>>109020528
>>109020346>what did you possibly have to gain from confronting your manager like this?moral high ground
>>109020528>one hour laterthat will be $20,000 in tokens + tip
Just realized my resume looks exactly like this guy's resumeWhat the fuck, CLAUDE? You told me my resume was unique,even the format is the same
>>109020566ok timmy
>>109020573>2 pagekek
>>109020590My resume is 2 pages and still got job offers.
>>109020590Are you a time traveler from 2018? 2 page is insanely better than 1 page nowadays because recruiters are using AI for cv reviewNobody actually reads resumes anymore
>>109020612Nobody reads anything anymore. They don't read the AI code changes they asked for, they don't read the test output, they don't read the PR comments, they don't read other people's PRs.
>>109020620Don't read emails, don't read chat comments, don't read the price in the store, don't read the manuals attached to tech, ect ect ect. Society is over fren.
>Working in a comfy IT doing the bare minimum but enough to keep my job in a project for an ISP company>Got a call from a rival place that promised me a better wage, they also told me that from now on they will manage the ISP project.>Got scammed because I am an idiot that didn't read the contract thoroughly, my wage is just 10% better than the other place>Got changed into another project just two months in, my comfy ISP project is replaced with some FUBAR insurance company project.>Didn't renew the contract cuz it was hell working in there.>Decide to take one year break>AI comes out>Tries to get a job after that but can't get shit>It's been two years now since my last job.Is it over for me? Should I just go freelancer now? I am starting to run out of cash.
>>109020673have you considered buying a pressure washer? You could probably earn enough to be able to afford to vibe code some apps
>>109020673>Decide to take one year break
>>109019404Zoomers are right about that.
>>109020785Eh generally you get your shit straight by 25 if your a man anyways. If you got it before then than you are absolutely killing it. At 24 i turned my shit around and tripled my paycheck 2 years later.
>>109020828Don't get too comfortable, the world has a way of fucking you over when you get too comfortable.
>>109019862>2x more expensive>refuses any task you ask it, even the most mundane (gets downgraded to 4.8 explicitly)>deliberately silently sabotages you if it thinks you are trying to compete with anthropic>confirmed to be full mythos, not a reduced version of mythosBiggest nothingburger out of the hypeniggery company.
dudes are out here taking a "one year break" from work lmao
I'm taking a one year break, might do some travel to India and thailand
>Sabbatical
>>109020864Imagine working your entire adult life to make someone else rich.
The org VP went over his personal yearly survey result scores today, which were really bad, and all the top comments to him were to fire all the PMs
>>109021000damn we've got Bill Gates here
My noncompete is finally up as of a few days ago so I can finally end the wagie cope and work in my industry again!
>>109021030Non-competes don't prevent you from working in your industry, they are heavily narrowly scoped. Furthermore, they become invalid if you can show you couldn't find a comparable job that complied with them unless the company is willing to pay you your normal rate during the period of the non-compete.
>>109020844>>deliberately silently sabotages you if it thinks you are trying to compete with anthropichow are people fine with this? Its clear that anthropic will silently build backdoors into your codebase in the future probably under the guise of national security.
>>109021081Zero corporate loyalty. Most companies are 2 girls 1 cup level of competition at this point.
It's going to get real rough in the next 6 months. Apple fucked up badly.
>>109021186tldr?
>>109021206Due to TSMC and other back end semiconductor supply cuts Apple once again went hard on over ordering new hardware to sell ot retards, but unlike last time in covid when WFH saved their ass instead of bite them in it they are facing a supply crunch, demand destruction and over saturation in the asian market for whatever electronics they buy.We are being warned of large layoffs within the next 6 months not really as a rumour but as a warning to get another job before then.
>I'm really thankful for all your contributions, it's a great success, thanks for the team's efforts!Ok where's my bonus?
>>109021313>MFW VP
>>109021081... and that's a good thing, here's whychina sends too many of its factory produced women to steal state secrets from our most pathetic, overworked beta nerds. we need to maintain an edge somehow.
>>109021427Sorry but the state and company secrets leaks will continue until uncle sam provides me with an equivalent gf
>>109018687Time to tell dad to fuck off, anon.
>>109019535
>15k eur after taxes/month in a balkan country, working 3 jobsI think I made it bros, hoping this lasts for a while
the great AI enshitification will come one day, and I am STOKED. My usage is minimal, and I can't wait for my boss to stop riding our asses about not using it enough
>>109019619this whore's name is Ganyu
>>109020528Do AI companies pay jeets to make these retarded posts or what? Every time there's a new model we get a bunch of shit like this, both here, on other websites, news articles, X, you name it. Meanwhile when I use it at my job it takes me on a 45 minute journey down the wrong rabbit hole before I have to go in, spot the error in a minute, and fix it. Are these people just paid for these posts or are they just webshitters?
>>109021547>15k net in the BalkansDoing well in life, Stefan Joboviç.
>>109021570>it takes me on a 45 minute journey down the wrong rabbit hole before I have to go in, spot the error in a minute, and fix it.this
>>109021570>Are these people just paid for these posts or are they just webshitters?I believe it's a mix of both.>>109021547How do you handle the logistics? Do you have 3 separate laptops? Is it viable? I was thinking about getting a second job but I don't want to get raped by taxes.
>>1090216743 laptops, one main pc with 3 monitors which I use to rdp to laptopsmy meetings don't match, daily's are at separate timesregarding taxes, my shithole is still in the gray zone about internet earnings, I should be paying something, but I don't, and they don't enforce itit's definitely viable if you're not retarded and pay for good llms
>>109021570Yes, they are unironically paid jeets. Where do you think the money is going? Protip: not to hiring competent people with credentials that show they can do applied research in deep learning, dialogue systems, LLMs, and so forth.
>>109020345Sounds like they're having fun and you're being a little bitch.
fuck my project
>only client i followed in the last few years ditches our company>no daily task or anything, i just turn on my PC and do whatever on my personal dekstop>did a couple of courses to keep myself busy, but i hate not being able to apply it somehow>been like this for a few months, boss reassures me he's fine with me not doing anything>still getting full pay>EU so salaries ranges are miniscule even if i wanted to job hop>company is extremely liberal with WFH, basically have been in the office maybe one day a month if that>but company announced that they're shifting their focus to AI and networking (don't know much about either)>get contacted by linkedin recruiter for a in-office positionkinda torn, on one hand i hate driving back and forth. on the other i'm not sure now sustainable this situation is.how much would you value WFH as a % of your salary?
>>109021313we once got one (small) jar of "premium chocolate spread" by the client for handling some infrastructure problem that took like 2 months to fix.another time i got 800 bucks for sitting on my ass for 3 months to support a network project (if any real problem happened, i had to contact the senior engineers anyway, i was brought in at the last second)there's frankly no rhyme or reason with that shit
how do i find the will and determination to improve myself as programmer and find a better job?
>>109020620In my company, some of my colleagues went full AI:- generate spec with AI- generate code with AI- generate code reviews with AIAI generates absolutely insane integration tests with retarded names, but they just merge that.I'm dooming right now. I can't switch job because it's going to be the same thing everywhere.
>>109017119I went to bed at 4:07 am.The next morning I woke up feeling... different.Not synergised.Just more tired.Lesson not learned. Tonight I will likely not go to bed before 3am, either.
>>109019862>Fabled 5is this model a one pump chump like Opus was on release or is it workable with a Pro sub?
>>109022240Even worse. But the good news is: you will never get to run it, because it will just tell you it's rejecting your input and auto route to 4.8 without a way to turn the routing off in favor of an error message (This way they can get your money and if you want fable output, you have to try again (and get rerouted again) so that's a ton of money they make off you).
>>109021570/biz/ got spammed to shit by jeets doing exactly this but with crypto. A jeet's minimum wage in the "skilled worker sector" per month is $260, so it makes them very exploitable.
>>109021213>Weare u fr bro im interviewing right now
>>109022323Oh look it's the retarded pajeet who can't fizzbuzz again!Good luck at apple, lmao
>>109022257are you being charge the same fable cost even on reroutes?
>>109022021I will switch to on-site for a 2x increase next year. Full career shift, leave IT entirely.
>>109022021Is it hybrid or full in-office? And importantly, how long is your commute?Personally I think hybrid is pretty cool, but only if the office is less than an hour away, ideally ~30 minutes at most. If your job is meaningful and everyone is actually doing work, then being able to be in-person with the other devs on your team is unironically good.But if it's 5 days a week and with a commute longer than half an hour, I personally wouldn't take it unless it was a significant raise.Then again>i'm not sure now sustainable this situation is.It sounds like you're kind of at a dead end job, even if they keep you on for a while longer, you don't have anything to put on your CV and your skills will atrophy unless you're dilligent about doing shit on your own for fun. Getting restarted in an actual job where you achieve actual shit you can put on your CV and gain experience you can talk about in your next job search might be worthwhile.How long is your notice period, anyway? If it's a typical euro job where you're paid peanuts but they must take like 3-6 months to fire you, maybe you don't need to rush to jump ship. If it's more like 1 month, then that's a short time to find a job in a hurry, so moving pre-emptively becomes more important.
>>109022357No, but you might as well save yourself the roundtrip and just go straight to 4.8 at this time.
>>10902246145m, fully in office from what i can tell by the insertion>you're paid peanuts but they must take like 3-6 months to fire youby contract i think it's 1.5 months, but as a full employee due to local regulations it's pretty damn hard to fire employees unless you fuck up massively. not a dev job, more on the sysadmin side.>It sounds like you're kind of at a dead end jobpossibly. i really like doing the kind of stuff that i did with the old client, but this explicit shift towards network and AI, on which i have little to no competence means i dunno if i should try and reskill myself or stick to my guns (support/sysadmin/infrastructure)
>>109017822Save enough to buy a house at some cheaper place, move away from big tech hubs and work for some boomer era defense or electronics companies known for being family friendly. Leave the 12 hour grindfests for those with no life outside of work.
>>109022561>by contract i think it's 1.5 months, but as a full employee due to local regulations it's pretty damn hard to fire employeesIn think in the vast majority of places, redundancies are a lot simpler than random firings, by design. Usually still with a bunch of red tape, but if an employer generally has no need for you they may be able to push it through without too much trouble.You doing basically no work for months up till today could seasily serve as good evidence in favour of a redundancy, depending on how the laws are structured. Unless you want to hire an employment lawyer I would be wary. (It might actually be worthwhile seeing if you can get a free/cheap quick consultation somewhere just to ask this question and take stock of your situation.)>this explicit shift towards network and AI, on which i have little to no competence means i dunno if i should try and reskill myself or stick to my guns (support/sysadmin/infrastructure)I'm always a proponent of upskilling and diversifying your capabilities. If you can say you've got sysadmin experience AND network engineering experience, it gives you more flexibility for future roles or might even make you a uniquely suited candidate if anyone wants specifically those two skillsets. Staying in the same field has diminishing returns after a while, if you have 7 YoE rather than 5 YoE it adds comparatively little benefit, while having 2 YoE in a new field is a massive advantage over 0 YoE.HOWEVER I have no idea wtf "networks and AI" means. If it's network engineering then it might be up your alley and quite cool. But AI can mean anything, and "AI and networks" can mean anything and everything.I'd say try to figure out what they're actually doing and whether it's going to give you useful skills and experience you can talk about to future employers.
Claude called my code bad
>>109017650>I actually don't mind RTO or the commute there. I get on the train, finish my book backlog or take a napYou just said you have hobbies and shit, napping on a train and reading a book to pass the time is not a hobby. I mean reading books is a hobby, but do you spend 4 hours a day every single day reading right now? I don't think it's fun to have no other options. Not to mention that reading in a train is nowhere near as comfy as reading at home on a couch, or even in a nice park or something.I do get enjoying time with coworkers if you have the right coworkers and office, but 4 hours commute is fucking criminal
>>109017594I feel like you have too much loyalty to your company. Yeah yeah "work ethic" and all that good stuff, but IMO it's also very important to learn the right amount of "not my problem" and be able to apply it whenever needed. ESPECIALLY if problems are caused by other people being stupid and retarded.Do your job, and do it well, but only put in as much effort as you can be bothered to, and if someone else fucks up always try to make sure you're not responsible for it.If you're a manager or something and your team is retards this is probably a lot harder because it's kind of your job to wrangle the retards no matter what. But if you're just a worker, your stated responsibilities are just to do your assigned tasks, and if others are retards just document it, take reasonable steps to complete your work regardless, and if shit is still fucked then you just shrug and explain to your manager in detail why you weren't able to complete the shit and move on with your day.If you're in danger of being fired, then that's different, but if your job is relatively secure then there is absolutely no reason to destroy yourself trying to be a good wagie.
>>109022728>lawyernah, not worth the hassle. i have plenty of margin even if i don't get paid for a while>no idea wtf "networks and AI" meansthey're investing in those 2 sectors separately.company acquired two big players in networking to try and compete with cisco. frankly not a big fan because for some reason everytime i hear a technical explanation for networking stuff it doesn't stick if it's more complicated than an IP address or a DNS entry.AI i have no experience with on the technical side, and i'm frankly annoyed that since this field is so new, i might study shit that might be obsolete in 3 months on top of having to compete with a million grifters. i think they're trying to butt in on the hardware side of things.i'll see what this guy from linkedin tells me. if it's something too unsavory i guess i could ask around what kind of AI skillset they want at my current company and concentrate on that while keeping an eye out for any offer.
>>109022912>for some reason everytime i hear a technical explanation for networking stuff it doesn't stick if it's more complicated than an IP address or a DNS entry.I think this is relatively common and this is why also actually putting in the effort to learn it, figure it out, and practice it might be a valuable skill.>AI hardwarePlausible. Hardware isn't gonna change all that much over time.>what kind of skillset they want at my current companyThis is also a good point, if you stay you gotta make sure you get involved in all this shit. If you end up in a cycle of "I'm not an expert at this, so I'll just sit it out while the real guys handle it" and continue being paid for doing nothing and not gaining any new experience on your CV or skills for your career, you're gonna miss the entire opportunity.
>>109022747Meh, I have a really good spot in the train. (going in the office). Going back...... especially with the FUTBALLLL FUTBALLL FUTBALLLLL tards are going to be annoying though but yeah I got other hobbies outside work it's just I can't full focus on them while working.>>109022775True but I really wish I finally understand what the hell is good enough. Most of my work is the equivalent as someone puking on the floor and it's like "uh see if you can clean that up" and I'll try but then it's like "nah we didn't mean that way, i still dunno what i want but just keep trying till you read my mind" or it's I have to go ask this department for a broom or that department for a mop, sorry! looks like someone already took the broom and we can't give it to you (or maybe they just didn't reply to me) while some guy is pointing at me to figure it out and anytime I decide "okay why the fuck am I the middle man, I'll just throw it on the other department plate" my management is like "nooooooo we gotta be the middleman for visibility or some shit". A lot of my job has been relegated to ticket bitch when I'm a dev and holy fuck sometimes the other departments (YES) and vendor support have been fucking busting my balls in how useless they are. I get it I can remove my mind from it and shrug it off, but it's frankly annoying for both the business and me just for me to say "nope didn't get an update, I'll update the ticket." every few days and still not getting shit. I have no energy to escalate shit anymore. I wouldn't say I'm in danger of getting fired (although I hope to god I am) but I think I'm really hitting the last stages of burn out where it's just "holy shit fuck all of you"
>>109023026>ticket bitch>incompetent supportYeah this is the kind of shit where it's worthwhile to just check out and make your job just be shifting responsibilities to anyone except yourself. Escalate everything and just make everything everyone's problem except your own.>I really wish I finally understand what the hell is good enough.Good enough is enough for your manager to be as happy with you as you need him to be. If you're in like a very nice work environment doing interesting projects and you're gunning for a promotion then you might need to go above and beyond. If you're comfortably set in your job and you do not give two shits about promotion or exceptional recognition then the standard is often surprisingly low, just enough to have visible results to keep your boss happy that you're working and useful.If you hate your job so much that you wouldn't mind getting fired then "good enough" is literally just the bare minimum to make sure the manager cannot fire you for gross negligence in your jurisdiction (which in some places can mean just showing up to work and doing nothing, sometimes not even that)
>>109023075Yeah honestly most days I have no energy to respond to the vague shit he asks me. Anytime he asks me something it's something stupid like make a whole deck over some vague bullshit and when I ask for specifics "idk put something on paper and we'll review later" then I put it on paper and it's like "nahhh not like this, can you make it more like y?" so I make it more like Y and then it's like "hmmm actually maybe X might be better, revert it back to X" so now I'm just plugging whatever he asks into AI and spitting it out but then he asks me "where did u get the values?" Most of my work is like this if it's "project" related, if it's "oh oh software did a fucky" it's the ticket or team shenanigans and I swear some of our business users are actually such bitches I legit want them to gtfo my sight forever. fuckkk there's really no returning out from this until I get laid off huh.
>>109023246You are searching for another job, right? Getting laid off won't help you move on, only difference is that you might or might not get severance and then afterwards stop getting paid. You'll need to find a next job either way (unless you're going on neetbux or something)
>>109023267Yeah but I'm starting to look at all the job descriptions in the job market and everything is either out of scope, looks like the same chaotic bullshit, or underpaid (debating on just doing underpaid shit and building my way back up, I have 0 faith in my current company right now). Maybe not the brightest move but damn bros this job making me so depressed and angry all the time.
>>109023279Yeah market sucks. It also fucking triple sucks when you're stuck in a shitty place and so your CV doesn't have anything interesting on it and so you're in a self perpetuating cycle of being stuck shitty places and unable to get a decent job. Good luck man>damn bros this job making me so depressed and angry all the time.Ye just do your absolute best to not care. Being depressed at your career prospects is justified, being depressed at your job is something you should be able to just ignore, especially if you don't care about being fired so you don't even have any reason to put in ANY effort
>>109023305I'm a vibe coder and keep getting offers, the market is amazing if you know how to use AI
I couldn't do itI woke up today at 5 am, texted my boss I'm not coming in, and turned off my phoneI haven't turned it back on yet
>>109020528>>109020544>>109023218saar do the needful of shitting in street with your jeetware, thank you
>>109017119https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6IQ_FOCE6I
>>109021570by the nature of LLMs you don't even need the worker, you just have a swarm of bots shilling for scam altman.
Lookin at boobs on my phone at work in the cafeteria. Don't wanna go into an office today
>>109023407you ludlost
>>109023305I'll try. Appreciate the talk though, really needed it today.
>already got promoted in the shitty IT job i was planning to leave once i find a dev jobit is literally easier to get hired AND get a huge promotion in any other field in IT than it is to find a SINGLE dev job now i wont be able to justify switching to a dev role even if i found one because the pay wont be as good
>109023376Is this an auto generated post? It doesn't show the filename. Is it the site admin inserting a bump, a demoralization post, or advertising something?jeet
>company wide email telling people it's OK if they need to take a few hours off today to deal with the caramel Anthony verdict
>>109020291To find a reason to reject you to save on expenses.
>company wide email telling people it's OK if they need to take a few hours off today to deal with the release of Fable 5
What site has the best and current IT certification exam question dumps?I need to get an Azure professional cert within the next 45 days for my consulting job since it looks good on paper for clients. My job doesn't even involve azure so it's a waste of time to study for.
>>109023902You should prepare to lose your job to AI and jeets.
>>109023902Not an answer to your question but is there a single one of these fucking certifications that is worth shit? Seems to me like it's just boomer bullshit.
>>109023974why doesn't your workplace have this much soul, /twg/?
>>109023974These people make more than you or I
>>109023987My workplace is just as indian
is putting eren yeager as my github pfp too chud coded?
>>109020528I've never been stuck for a week on a bug, wtf.
>>109023974Do they think that dancing in very visible areas is a super power or something?
>>109024027My team was stuck on a bug for like a month. It was a HW bug though, things would deadlock after like 12 hours of max workload.
>>1090238474chanX/XT broke.update your shit, or find the commit on XT's github and copy it, it's a single line
>>109024017why out of all characters why eren
>>109024207That settles it, I'm setting Haze as my LinkedIn profile pic
>>109024017why out of all characters why not eren
>>109024048yes, it's a common thing to do while filming it for tiktok (or whatever their homegrown bootleg version is) for social media asspats, and they can't seem to be able to tell the difference between people staring out of shock/anger/annoyance and genuine admirationin a shocking display of humanity, even indians themselves find such behaviour to be, as the western children say, Cringehttps://www.msn.com/en-in/money/topstories/indians-are-outraged-because-garba-on-vietnam-airport-tarmac-sparks-online-debate/ar-AA24kqnLas you may well already know, disrupting others is considered to be a powerful and good thing to do among indians, because indians cannot even conceive of doing anything not at the expense of othershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Mg4nXJ21Y
boss uses 1:1 to just blog about their personal life + talk about their work and what's "sadly" going down the pipeline (vague shit). I've had two jobs in a row where this happens. Is this normal? Actually my first job was just purely just "personal" life talk and trying to get me to open up (I wouldn't budge a fucking inch)
>>109024618For help with autism please go to /adv/
>>109023376oh my god bruh I feel so good today like I'm healing from the trauma of the last two days of work then I remembered I'm going to have to go back tomorrowplease dear god no
>>109024626it's not even autism bro why are you wasting my time when we got problems to solve and we're blogging about what your fucking neighbour is doing
>>109023987>workplaceno work is done in that place
man i can barely concentrate anymoreit's like treading through mud mentally all day long
If I make an image classifier that detects porn/not porn on blue boards in pytorch should I make an NLP based on my posting history to post for me in tensorflow? Will employers think that's based or cringe?
>>109024618>boss uses 1:1 to just blog about their personal life + talk about their work and what's "sadly" going down the pipeline (vague shit).>I've had two jobs in a row where this happens. Is this normal?no, at least not for me.are you a woman? or maybe a twink?
people invented their own timestamp string format, now both producing and consuming sides have a bunch of code that should not exist. what is wrong with people
>>109024749neither
>>109024738Classic imposter syndrome. With a tad of GD.
does anyone even work in software dev itt or are you all it monkeys
>>109025028Neither, I'm a hardware developer chad
>>109025036so... you make like 60k a year?
most of my team meetings is just constantly going in circles. anyone else have this issue?
>>109025028used to 'till I quit>>109025053yes and I argued aggressively that our meetings were a waste of time and we stopped having them, problem solved
>>109025039No I make 250k
>>109025061im most likely in the minority, one of my coworkers is suddenly stroking his cock jerking off over a new tracker senior management is throwing at us. it's been 20mins now....
https://x.com/Cryptotea/status/2064507730631832036
>>109025161@grok what's in this
>>109025028Yea "software" (vibe coder)
>>109024618Better than them talking about sending you to autism training like what happened to me.
>>109025028it is not Tech.
The concept of having a hobby is inherently homosexual. Past high school if you aren't making money off of it, you should stop doing it and grind to get a job you actually enjoy spending 40 hours at. Reading, family, sportsball, exercise, and the occasional vacation should be your only activities. Nothing is sadder than watching grown men talk about their funko pop collection or some other cringe activity. Can't wait for some fag to list 50 things he does 1 hour every other month and act like that is fulfilling
>>109025076Sounds like your coworkers have the autism. They won't understand social cues and probably aren't aware that their 20+min monologues are wasting time. Either get over it or confront the offender(s) directly in a neutral way. Don't worry about hurting their feelings, autists don't have feelings.
>>109025254>t. Tate cock sucker
First full day using Fable. We are fucking cooked, bros. It's over. There is no usecase for programmers anymore.
I have a manager of another team that for some reason just doesn't like me. They haven't explicitly said it, and I'm not sure if they're like this with everyone. In tickets, if there is a mistake or something wrong, even if done by another team, if my name is in there they will tag me and give me "pointers" or request I fix the issue. Our help desk fucked somebody around asking for a port number when it was already written in the ticket, this was then passed to my team and assigned to me, this manager (who does not manage my team, or the helpdesk) leaves a note saying "please read tickets in full next time as not to waste customer time". ?????? I hadn't even worked the ticket, it had only been assigned to me?
>>109023339
Any anons been replaced by AI yet? I've spoken to service desk, web dev, coders, and network guys. They all seem to think their days are numbered yet none have been replaced. The only people who feel secure are security.
>>109025354There is definitely an expectation to do more with less people. Still, there are even more tasks than ever. (((Product owners))) now want to implement stuff that they couldn't due to budget constraints before.
>>109025354Until Fable 5 dropped, I thought I'd have a few more years as a mid-level dev. But this model is going to cause a white collar job massacre. It's going to happen by Christmas at the latest.
>fully remote>$300k>work 4-6 hours/day on average>manager thinks I'm a genius and hard worker for just changing a couple values in our config and deploying it to prod (was given 2 weeks to do it but I did it in 1)Who else still comfy here?
>>109025354No one's been replaced the industry is just seeing layoffs, hiring freezes, unrealistic expectations, and burnout we ain't cooked yet senpai trust the plan
>>109025387This is from their official sub, generated by the actual model.
>>109025392What do you get out of larping?
>>109025418People are buttburt at the pricing and restrictions. The quality of what Fable can do however, nobody has any real complaints. It's a wizard. It's "better have an exit plan" level good.
>>109023974Power moveIndians own us
>>109025443I've said it many times before, but when an AI can fully replace white collar jobs it can also replace blue collar jobs so forming exit plans makes as much sense as planning on how to beat a black hole in outer space.
>>109025457There are going to be a few years where tech work is dead, but they still need retards to turn wrenches, babysit kids, wipe asses at the elderly care home, etc.
>>109025387That was likely to happen even if the model was bad. US economy is threading the needle right now
Will a masters degree help me get a better job?
>>109020844>confirmed to be full mythos, not a reduced version of mythoshuh, time to put it to test then
>>109025489its the same shit as every other claude model. it just consumes like 3x more tokens for 10% better results.
>>109023974How to into izzatmaxxing?
>>109025472months at best
>>109025503lol... fucking clowns hyping it up like it's agent smith himself
>>109025387yes bro
>>109020844And yet it can close damn near any github issue for a few bucks at most. You're in denial, bro. Anthropic have the advantage in AI and their pricing is bullshit, but what the model is capable of is legit scary.
>>109025520It's still pennies on the dollar cheaper than hiring programmers.
>>109025028You aren't a dev you are a fullstack crud tard that is obsolete
>AI is going to take over our jobs>Can't even automate simple build chains on its own without guidance>Can't replace my dumb assI am tired of hearing about AI.I wonder if people thought the same about ATMs or sewing machines (they did).
>>109025522What is the actual difference between this model and Opus 4.X? The latter already work quite well for small- to mid-sized tasks for small- to mid-sized monorepos build from the ground up with AI.
>>109025520>fable 5 is some ai slop and not another Peter Molyneux Disasterpieceunironically disappointed desuyaro, i thought the jokes about taking time off about it were typical "new (((indie))) game dropped, economy is cancelled for 3 days" memeingi guess a new ai model is fotm gaymer slop in a way but still
>>109025472What happens when there's 5000 people each applying for these roles?
>>109025536Being a neet without money means the rope is inching closer every passing moment of your life.
>>109025332Bring it to the attention of your own manager, that some other manager is wasting your time and taking you away from your own team's duties.
>>109025557I think you're missing the point. Higher level execs make the decisions and will implement AI for the balance sheet. Do you miss calling a company and having a human answer instantly? I do. Now it's an automated telephone service, followed by 40 minutes of ear rape, then someone finally answers who you can't understand. Nobody likes these systems, they barely function, but they were implemented and cut costs.
I commute to work and all these girls dressed like sluts on the train like it's scorching hot or like they want to be raped. It's only the mid-60s put your goddamn clothes on properly
>>109025586This was already a thing before AI, anytime I called my bank I have to press a fuck load of bullshit buttons until I get a person, now it's just a different flavor of the same shit.
>>109025279oh they're not they just REALLLLLY sipped the juice.
>>109025522Call me when it can produce any code at all instead of refusing to do anything. We could barely work at work today because we kept laughing our asses off looking at all the ways it refused to do anything and how poorly it worked in all other scenarios. It's literally performing worse than 4.8 and 4.7 for us despite 2x the price and how slow it is.
>be mentally ready about RTO>get the rto email>only seething fucking ragestuff to do for this feel? i feel like i've got so much damn energy dang
>>109025566Same thing that always happens. Salaries go down and employers start treating them more slave-like. Anyone cheering about tech workers getting laid off is short-sighted.
>>109025591mid 60's is warm as shit man.
>>109025586except tts services and graphs have been around for like two decades and they cost 1/1x10^26 less than dumping a gorillion tokens every time someone says "speak to representative" on the phone
>>109025616Sounds like a skill issue, unironically.
>>109025557skill issue mr. luddite
>>109025566>>109025569Crime is always an option.
>>109025637Don't get me wrong, I use AI and it has reduced my work, but I catch it doing the dumbest shit sometimes, even when running Opus and copying configs from working existing jobs. Dunno if its a context issue or what but damn.We'll see how fable does.
>>109025557Yes just like jeets will never take your job because you are a l33t coderIt doesn't have to be good it just has to be good enough at a fraction the cost
Please bro, I just need 3 years until I've paid off my house bro. You can't do this to me Sam Altman just a little more time please. Bro you can take over the world in 2030 I just need a little more time.
>>109025671>my houselmao stupid retard the zoomer underclass is going to seize your assets and throw you in a mass grave, retarded boomer
>>109025671>Paid off house>Retirement>Family that loves you>Supporting friends that act as your network>Paid off college debts & car loansAnon you really don't get it do you.
I'm tired of doing php and little bit of js shite (vue) over and over again for a small shop. Should I learn c# and .net and little bit of react and react native on the side or is it impossible to do these after 8 hours of daily anal?
Man, I'm just delaying my suicide until P4R comes. If AI takes over my job that's fine, I just need $200-300 to afford the collector's edition and I'll be happy.
>>109025354Last year, I developed a workflow that instantly got someone gutted. >mfw this year, people are on vacation and my director is asking if we have ideas to automate their workflow
>>109025668I am the jeet "working" 3 jobs at once. Seethe harder.https://isaiprofitable.com/
>>109025753>a workflow that instantly got someone gutted.That was probably me. They gave me one ticket that was five tickets worth effort sandwiched into one ticket with immense scope creep. Not nice. I hate the com sci community now.
>>109025768> I hate the com sci community now. hate to tell you this, but nerd shit became uncool the moment money got involved. it's been "got mine, fuck you" for over a decade now
people who took the kool aid in corporate should kill themselves NOW
can another luigi happen yet?
>>109025763Larp and cope paired with fake and gay site, sad
>>109025834Unfortunately a new luigis mansion wasn't announced at the Nintendo direct yesterday
Ah yes, delete the entire repo, true decoupling achieved. But seriously how do I make my code more modular for refactor 2?
>>109025591Instead of telling an anonymous internet forum why don't you tell the girls that to their face next time?
>>109025863I bought 100 shares of nintendo at 10.50 per. Hopefully i can make some money on what i think is a undervalued company.
I oughta use typescript and interfaces and stuff huh
>>109025883Goyim do whatever they want, I only pass judgement online. That's how this works
sisters I don't feel so goodhttps://arxiv.org/pdf/2605.27371
>>109025905TS is alright. Helps prevent some dumb mistakes and makes refactoring much easier.
>class is 150 lines of code>500 lines of tests
>>109026181>class>in 2026oof
>>109026211why yes let me copy a networkdownloader and the underlying cache every time I need to switch between threadsgood morning ranjesh
>>109026290I hear this way more often than you or anyone else would believe. obviously this isnt true and isnt relevant to politics today anyway, but honest to god question, if indians genuinely see themselves this way, then why do they not discriminate in favor of Whites in hiring as they discriminate for their own tribes like gujuratis/punjabis/whatnot? people can say what they want about genetics/borders/regions/whatever but their actions show they dont see the world this way in their mind. So all they're doing is trying to trick the gullible
I'm a rising Senior and got a swe internship this summer for a big-tech company (one of IBM/C1/Visa/Amazon). It's my first "real" internship and I was really excited going in. So far, I've just been vibecoding and prompting claude to do all my work. I have a summer long intern project and got assigned some tickets. I've been making great progress on everything and my manager thinks I'm smart, but it's all just larp. I've just used claude and copilot for almost everything so far It's so depressing to me that this is what it's come to. I want to go in and learn the codebase and documentation and everything but seeing an AI do it all 10x faster has demotivated me so much. Is this the future of swe? Anyone in a similar situation rn?
>>109026314Reddit?
>>109026314i too am a senior intern saar
>$10 for a mcburger we live in hell
>>109023974theres something so revolting about indians dancing. i dont get this feeling with any other ethnicity.
>>109023974>>109026587my favorite part is that they're all barefoot
>>109026595i didnt notice that. that is fucking disgusting.
>>109026536>he's looking for le mcburger in 2026you deserve hell
>>109026692Mchell
>>109025161kek>>109025332they probably don't have anyone else but you as technical contact, and might even believe you are some kind of team leader or whatever.you need to have someone explain to them how things work.>>109025671rent it out anon. rent some rooms to make some cash
>>109026692fuck youboomers used to be able to go to a mcdonalds and buy 3 double cheeseburgers for like $2I can't cook, I don't have the time to cook, and I want to eat decent food for cheap.
someone bake please
>>109026809be careful what you wish for
>>109026818>>109026818>>109026818
>>109024027Longest bug for me was 3 weeks.Writing complex firmware running on a microcontroller.(This is an environment that's hard to debug. You can't always trivially add breakpoints, logs, with that kind of environment. Our main diagnostic was a fucking blinking LED.)Turned out to be a *single* bit being corrupted by accident in a critical register.
