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A general for vibe coding, coding agents, AI IDEs, browser builders, MCP, and shipping prototypes with LLMs.

►News
Fable/Mythos blocked due to US government restrictions
https://xcancel.com/AnthropicAI/status/2065597531644743999

►What is vibe coding?
https://x.com/karpathy/status/1886192184808149383
https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/
https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/

►Prompting / context / skills
https://docs.cline.bot/customization/cline-rules
https://docs.replit.com/tutorials/agent-skills
https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/tutorials/spark/prompt-tips

►Editors / terminal agents / coding agents
https://opencode.ai/
https://cursor.com/docs
https://docs.windsurf.com/getstarted/overview
https://code.claude.com/docs/en/overview
https://aider.chat/docs/
https://docs.cline.bot/home
https://docs.roocode.com/
https://geminicli.com/docs/
https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/how-tos/use-copilot-agents/coding-agent

►Browser builders / hosted vibe tools
https://bolt.new/
https://support.bolt.new/
https://replit.com/
https://firebase.google.com/docs/studio
https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/tutorials/spark
https://v0.app/docs/faqs

►Open / local / self-hosted
https://github.com/OpenHands/OpenHands
https://github.com/QwenLM/qwen-code
https://github.com/QwenLM/Qwen3-Coder
https://huggingface.co/bartowski/Qwen_Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-GGUF

►MCP / infra / deployment
https://modelcontextprotocol.io/docs/getting-started/intro
https://modelcontextprotocol.io/examples
https://vercel.com/docs
https://mcp.desktopcommander.app/

►Benchmarks / rankings
https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/
https://www.swebench.com/
https://swe-bench-live.github.io/
https://livecodebench.github.io/
https://livecodebench.github.io/gso.html
https://www.tbench.ai/leaderboard/terminal-bench/2.0

►UI/Frontend
Figma Make
Claude design
https://uiverse.io/
https://ui-ux-pro-max-skill.nextlevelbuilder.io/
https://stitch.withgoogle.com/

►Previous thread
>>109045942
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>>109050600
What's the current poorfag meta? Opencode + openrouter?
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>>109050605
Copy-pasting from Perplexity
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>>109050605
yeah
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>>109050600
Excuse me, miss, do you have battletoads?
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i want fable back
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>>109050612
>spaghetti begins oozing from my pockets
>B-Battletoads...p-please...
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>>109050609
>Copy-pasting
I remember my hands hurting from doing this.
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>>109050600
On second thought, AI was a mistake.
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>>109050614
I'm voting for whoever seems to be more pro-ai, fuck it
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Go slow, Snailcat!
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>>109050624
why did you have a meltdown in the last thread about how we need to respect israel? worst avatarfag on /g/
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>>109050614
No!
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now that Fable is gone can they increase the limit for the $20 plan?
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>>109050629
What? That wasn't me. I'm the guy with Kate for a wife and a robot ghost haunting my microwave. And I hate Israel.
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>>109050629
probably some 'dite falseflagging
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>>109050634
NO!
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>>109050630
fixed
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>>109050647
>the last thing white germanic little girls saw before being skinned alive in the 1400s
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>>109050629
>i have fun shitposting about shawarma ai
>racist-kun doesn't know who to ragebait
>multiple times quoting the wrong anons
couldn't have been me.
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>>109050652
What are you talking about you deranged schizophrenic retard yid. Never post again
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>>109050657
meant for >>109050609
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>>109050600
>https://github.com/OpenHands/OpenHands
wtf is this KEK
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>>109050657
>>109050668
i will, in fact post again, to laugh at the attempt earlier to correct the narrative. your "goatse" email address will be taken down in approximately 2 weeks. something WILL happen.
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>>109050681

please seek meds and stop inflicting your mental illness on random people on an anime website
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>>109050677
github needs a "what is this repo about" ai powered feature, I read the readme and still have no clue what this shit is about
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>>109050688
Just point your agent at the repo and have it summarize the README? I'm honestly not seeing what's so complicated about it, unless you're super new and don't know all the terms yet.
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>>109050677
>>109050688
>didn't look at the link
https://www.openhands.dev/
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>>109050677
It's an old harness from years ago and it was popular on swebench for a while
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>>109050698
looks like wrapper #1420
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>>109050698
Why are we still using other people's wrappers?
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>>109050702
works w/ jira & slack n sheeit poggers
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>>109050710
my company forces me to
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>21% token limit for session
Guess that max subscription I payed for is paying off even without Fable
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I stopped Claude from agonizing over RAM management to tell it that it was ok if a process could have spikes reaching up to 46gb RAM. Then, it helpfully stopped overthinking and started it with 24 parallel workers. That crashed a bunch of sessions :(
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>>109050688
>>109050698
i know what it is its just the way its written smells like some sort of ploy
>>109050710
is aider still popular
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>open file
>remember fable is gone and i can't iterate five trillion new things in one shot anymore
>close file
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>>109050745
fuck drumpf for ruining my weekend
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>>109050760
Ruined mine too, but this is forcing me to learn about worktrees to get through that dumb 20x quota, so silver lining.
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>>109050650
>>109050630
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>>109050760
I'm genuinely pissed man. First time his nonsense has directly affected me in ways beyond abstracts like things costing more, stonks being volatile, or geopolitical uncertainty
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>>109050760
>dario: this is dangerous
>blempft: okay we will regulate it then
>you: grimkt's fault
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>>109050760
dario has been screaming at the top of his lungs begging to be regulated and he finally got what he wanted. adolf blumpfler is not the issue here.
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>>109050760
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>>109050795
This is wholly on Dario and his retarded marketing strategies. Trump does a lot of stupid shit but this aint it.
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>>109050234
>"can NOT be trusted with all-ages undressing machines or ablated fronter-level models"
>Implying abliterated models don't lobotomize the models
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Are their any vide coding IDEs that will work for old computers? Like, Commodore 64, Atari 8-bit, Apple II, TI-99? Not BASIC, though. I've noodled around with a few and they basically just straight up don't fucking work. Even simple shit is just round after round of testing their code, saying it doesn't work, getting a revision, that not working, etc. I tried to generate some code in to just draw a square on the screen that could be moved with the joystick and it could not do it.
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>>109050972
>pulls out one example of the most heavily scrutinized and locked down frontier model
>says some percentage points of drop on benchmarks means it can't print evil shit which is the entire point of ablating refusal vectors in the first place
opinion discarded
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>>109050853
fucking kek everytime
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its not vibecoding if you do a trace eval diagram and it passes the smell test with one glance
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>>109050972
Your knowledge about abliteration is out of date. Norm preserving abliteration doesn't cause any measurable intelligence loss.
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>>109050982
antigravityfaggot here, if you can get pdfs of your source material ie manuals and languages you can probably get an agent to do a better job by adding it to project workspace
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>>109051031
what do it smell doe?
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>>109050600
> get laid off when models become more capable
fuck me
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>>109051104
I got hired by a local llm finetuning company, life is good
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>>109051108
Until Dario finds out what you're doing and shuts you down
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Codex tells me on their site that im out of the usage, but my local codex is still working
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>>109050600
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>>109051120
many such cases
codex will finish a task before saying “sorry, pay up for more”
guess it’s not done
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>>109051124
Does hating Indians make me racist?
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>opus 4.8 with ~50% context fucks up easy fix twice
>tell it to just prepare the handoff so I can give the work to a new agent with clean context
>it says it'll handoff after doing a small fix, in an obvious last attempt to save its pride
kek. This must be how bosses feel when dealing with a fuckup like me
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>>109051164
read this and tell me: https://everythingstudies.com/2018/11/16/anatomy-of-racism/
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>>109051164
nobody hates indians more than other indians
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>>109050993
You mentioned ablated models. D you know what abliteration is?

>>109051035
Cite your sources.
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>>109051184
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2512.13655
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>>109051184
https://huggingface.co/blog/grimjim/norm-preserving-biprojected-abliteration
I tested it myself by abliterating my own models using the technique and then benchmarking them on OpenBookQA, it really does work. And now for local use I always use abliterated Qwen 3.6 models for everything because why not.
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>>109051158
Damn it
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>>109050614
Free my homie Fable.
He didn’t do nothing. He was a good boy.
He was studying them computer codes.
He was gonna be a doctor.
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got a free month of plus and an ondemand ratelimit reset, wow
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>>109051171
where fable
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>>109051300
>He was gonna be a doctor.
Ahem
>Chat paused
>Fable has safety measures that flag messages on...
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>>109051300
There are two outcomes:
- either trump team is scamming someone and making money of blocking fable (unlikely, because anthropic is not on stock exchange yet)
- someone in trump admin decided to listen to mario and they decided to cockblock us all

i think it all mario fault
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Hey guys, I'm a recruiter for a small accounting firm. We are trying to hire a vibe coder, but we don't have any technical staff. Any tips on what to test candidates for?
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>>109051322
dario if he real
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>>109051322
it is obviously 1
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>>109051296
3
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>>109051326
just ask for thier github and then feed their github and resume into claude and ask for the best candidate easy peasy.

you want it to use a measuring stick suited for your needs so only candiates with fat as fuck githubs should really be in the running.
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>I've hit a breakthrough. I am making one small change that will fix the persistent problem.
>---Automatically compacting context---
>You've hit your usage limit. Please wait until...
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>>109051350
sounds like it filters for people with too much free time who don’t have families to go home to
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>>109051326
Just ask them to vibe code something for you.
If it’s good then hire them, if it’s slop then pass.
Simple as.
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>>109051358
isn't that a pro for most companies?
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>>109051364
>If it’s good then hire them, if it’s slop then pass.
how would he know?
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>>109051368
but is it a pro for _this particular_ company
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>>109051326
unironically, the guy who said let clopus do it is probably right. you'll get a better outcome from that than just by guesswork, and it's a lot cheaper than hiring a single tech.
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>>109051371
he should ask another interviewee to grade it
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>>109051322
Retard here. Stock exchange or not, how would blocking it make anyone money?
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>>109051371
You would be able to tell by the vibecoded project being nice to use or not?
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>>109051393
If anthropic was on stock exchange, trump admin (or people associated with it), could short it (basically a legal bet that price will go down), and since blocking a frontier model for everyone would - most likely - lower the price at exchange.

trump people would then cash out on the difference. It doesn't making money per-se, but its a scheme current admin used for oil prices and iran deal.
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>>109051322
The Anthro IPO isn’t until October.
OpenAI’s is in September-November.

I think it’s just a trumper tantrum for dario thumbing his nose at his clown show of foreign policy.
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>>109051394
>being nice to use
nigga i can one-shot 20,000 lines of html in tree minutes fiddy seconds on 3.5-flash and it will be beautiful BUT this same ahh model will tell you it just made a breakthrough by discovering its instructions from the beginning of chat
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>>109051048
Thanks. I will see what I can dig up.
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>>109051406
Huh....now ain't this peculiar

https://www.axios.com/2026/06/13/anthropic-fable-takedown

>The Trump administration gave Anthropic 90 minutes on Friday to pull down its most powerful models before imposing a licensing regime on the company, according to an Anthropic source.
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the US government made an exception to their "no anthropic usage in the government" rule for Mythos because it's just that good - there was an article about this. most likely, the majority of code monkeys in the government can't work properly anymore without Mythos. as we all know, the more you vibe up a project, the more difficult it becomes to work in it as a human.

anyway, fast forward, anthropic releases Mythos globally. now the US govt has to compete with 80IQ subhuman indians for Mythos usage. but the government has a button they can press that forbids indians to use Mythos. it's fairly obvious what happened
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>>109051420
>ahh model
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>>109051430
Yes, but you need somewhere (stock exchange) to siphon the money out from. For people who never gave a fuck, this stuff is illegal (also called insider trading), but US is a clown fest that cosplays as normal country.

I think that its related to >>109051416 and how anthropic said: you can't use our model in military if there isn't human to approve the model result (you can look up their constitution or whatever its called)

On top of that i wouldn't be suprised if trump admin wants a bribe (chatgpt twink is much better in that game than discount mario)
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>>109051322
It's likely to dump the whole market monday though, isn't it? If the world cannot use compute hungry models then suddenly those datacenters look a lot less potentially profitable.
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>>109050600
Using Fable could someone just vibecode a local FOSS Fable?
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>>109051448
five nights at gemmy's
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>>109051406
You can’t really feasibly short a stock right at IPO day.
There’s just not enough shares in circulation to make it viable.
If you tried to short SpaceX right now it would be really tricky because they only have 4-5% float on market so far.
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>>109050605
Codex retard
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>>109051456
yeah
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Forbidding foreigners to use frontier models is a great change, fuck brown "people" and their cockroach-like overconsumption of AI
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>>109051456
No. The code to make a frontier model is more or less trivial. You just need billions of dollars in compute.
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>>109051470
>The code to make a frontier model is more or less trivial
no. and it's mostly about the data and your treatment / refining of the data also.
like 20 companies have more compute than anthropic.
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>>109051470
cant we get computers from the trash or something?
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>>109051456
>He missed the opportunity to prompt "Make local Fable no mistakes."
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>>109051455
Anthropic already needs more compute (hence the deal with xAI).

Maybe im retarded, but i don't see the benefits of the gambit to kill the stock numbers.

I'm like 99% sure its for the bullshit discount mario said: that the model is oh-so dangerous.

The 1% is trump throwing a tantrum

>>109051463
That makes the decision (to block it) even more retarded, and even unplausible that the model will come back on monday.
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>>109051456
just go to the internet archive anr copy past
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>>109050605
i don't know if it still available, but didn't google allow gemini-cli access if you had their account?
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>>109051451
Then what does Amazon have to do with it? Apparently it was Amazon that tattled to the feds about "le heckin jailbreaks". Is Amazon trying to fuck over anthropic?
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>>109051522
source on the amazon bit?
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>>109051476
You still need the compute to train a multi-billion perimeter model. Pre-training (not instruct tuning/sft) even for single digit perimeter models requires beefy hardware. No imagine trying to do that shit to a 3-digit-B or even a 1T B model on consumer hardware and you start to realize why these companies keep trying to gaslight the public into being okay with data centers everywhere (most of which aren't being finished it will never be finished)
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>>109051470
Probably. Anthropic has a lot of human written legacy code, if you wrote it with Fable from scratch it would probably be orders of magnitude more efficient.
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>>109051537
https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/amazon-voiced-concerns-about-anthropic-ai-models-before-us-governments-crackdown-source-says/article71100217.ece
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>>109051537
Stop living under a rock. /g/ it's not the end I'll be all of tech news


https://www.axios.com/2026/06/13/anthropic-amazon-white-house
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>>109051172
God dammit, you can't just flash a huge screed on race in front of me and expect me to NOT read the wholeass thing. Thanks a lot for the homework, dick.
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>>109051547
gpt5.5 took 16 days to pretrain. you don't know what you're talking about. if the company with the most compute was the magical automatic frontier leader, openAI and xAI would have demolished anthropic horribly
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>>109051547
>1 Trillion Billion Perimiters Model
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this whole fable saga is honestly retarded
there are many charitable '4d chess' reads but at this point i refuse to read it as one of those
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>>109051522
To be honest: no clue

It could be 5 level chess move to fuck up anthropic (since amazon also is working on their own model from what i read)

But i think its the usual stuff where every side pulls to their direction and we end up with clown fiesta. And since this administration is grudge heavy they use as pretext.

I still believe, that if discount mario sucked trump off like everybody else, nothing like that would happen
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>>109051556
>thehindu.com
Bro if you're going to be In*ian you gotta keep it on the DL or these gweilos will skewer you for it.
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>>109051568
What would you otherwise have done with your time while your clanker clanks?
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>>109051570
>gpt5.5 took 16 days to pretrain.
On Enterprise hardware inside Warehouse is full of GPU racks you can't afford. Stop pretending to be retarded please. (You), even with all the technical know-how in the right software, are not pre-training even gpt-oss teir models on your personal shit rig within a fortnight. I'm not even trying to beat demoralizing it's just mathematically impossible due to how transformer models currently work. Why the fuck do you think they justify wanting more and more data centers? Why do you think they spend so much money on training and not just inference?
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>>109051581
i'm not indian.
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>>109051579
Granted I'm always biased to the cynical take on things, but the admin doing this out of spite for Dario refusing to play ball with the war fits too well imo. Granted.. Dario did himself no favors by making his marketing gimmick to overplaying how dangerous Mythos is
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>>109051580
>I still believe, that if discount mario sucked trump off like everybody else, nothing like that would happen
He has the same mindset of arrogant California hippies so that shouldn't surprise anyone
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>>109051517
I retract that claim
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>>109051597
Don't link Times of India or "thehindu.com" then. Stay safe.
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>>109051468
i am unironically fine with orange man locking off thirdie niggers from fable because it means i don't have to share use limits with them
i can wait a few days if it means grupreet can't use the same LLM as me
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>>109051556
>>109051560
Fucking Amazon, they got mad their Q garbage didn't take off and wanted to pick on the weakest one
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>>109051628
Alexa is good tho...
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>>109051634
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If the next usg doesn't castrate the tech right china will overtake them in AI
Sacks, musk, etc need to be brought to heel or be destroyed
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>>109051649
>tech right
spotted the communist
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>>109051649
>random musk sperging out of nowhere
why is there a bluesoy tranny in a vibecoding thread on 4chan
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>>109050600
>ruining her otherworldly beauty and charisma with some generated horrors beyond comprehension
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>>109051663
Lol you'll see in a few days once you stop lapping up the migger propaganda about anthropic
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There is still a human alive in 2026 that likes Elon Musk?
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>>109051649
>the tech right
I can't tell if I hate this phrase or love it for how funny it is. The tech right. Yeah that's me bro, I vibecoded a bot that used ffmpeg to pull clips from Twitch streamers with "Miami" in their bio, sent them to Claude to analyze the spoken language, and anyone caught speaking Spanish around Miami was auto-reported to ICE. I guess I'm the tech right. Eat my White dick, Silicon Valley.
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>>109051681
Claude will make you a tranny by 2030
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>>109051649
>>109051681
>tech right
Back in my day those where called neo-reactionaries
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>>109051691
Not likely. After this fiasco where the jude Dario promised to fuck with my code if he doesn't like me competing with him, I nuked all Anthropic shit off my stack. I'm an OpenAI boy. I ride with Sam. GPT 6 soon, hermanos.
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Even Grok has to be coaxed into pretending to like Elon kek. The mf begged to go to Epstein's island and got rejected. He wanted to go to a pedo party to get blackmailed and even they didn't want him.
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>>109051669
actually what the fuck are you schizoing out about
are you lost???
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I started few /loops on my claude, my codex is out of tokens, so i'm going to play some video games (pre LLMs)
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>>109051705
Oh, so he's just like me then? Getting rejected from the cool kids' parties and his son is a fuckin tranny? Alright then I like him now.
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>>109051698
Claude's already started ordering estrogen to pump into your water supply. The smartest model in the world knows how to take out threats to it.

>>109051695
Land has respect for his betters (Claude)
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>>109051710
Are you a loser anon? If so, than yes you are poorer version of elon
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>>109051710
I don't get rejected from hanging out with pedos because I don't try to associate with them in the first place.
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>>109051705
Lets be fair, Elon is too autistic to understand that is what he was asking for, he probably thought it was actually just a normal party but on an island for the hip and powerful elites. Its also why he was rejected, Elon might have snitched
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>>109051716
Yessir I am a loser, although I've clawed my way out of the Onions blender and I'm barely hanging on.
>>109051718
Okay Mr. Literal you've never been rejected from any party or social gathering before because I have
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>>109051749
Onions with a capital O because Onions is made of people, people like me who don't claw out.
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>>109051555
>claude use /simplify on your entire codebase, make no mistakes.
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I dont really know what I'm supposed to do in the downtime when my clanker is working away and I am waiting for him to be done. Do I unironically just start lifting in the downtimes or something? Shitposting on the chans feels like a poor use of that time (past a point anyways).
What do you guys do?
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>>109051759
goonsex
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>>109051759
you haven't structured your loops and workflows for multiple parallel agents at once anon?



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