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Blessed thread of frenship
>still no ideogram section on civitaishutdown this website already
>>109052337The same, ideogram, Ideogram was the "new model" of the week, just like pixel space, Anima, Ernie, LTX and now those types of SCALAR or WAN videos Next week there will be another.
where is tdrussell? where is animagram???
>>109052882>Anima, Ernie, LTX and now those types of SCALAR or WANIt's the same midlife crisis anon who discovered image gen and now he's generating Mikus, American Psychos and Asukas like it's 2009 and sharing whatever new slop model comes out. He probably has nobody to talk to and stumbled onto this thread and decided this is his thing now.
>>109052922Why are you seething about posters testing and discussing new models in /ldg/? There's another thread if you want to dump illustrious 1girls you know.
>six months into 2026 Best model of the year so far?
>>109052863don't you understand how hard it is to add a line to a table?
>>109052961>Why are you seething about posters testing and discussing new models in /ldg/?To be fair, it's not like there is people drooling or a wave of enthusiasm for Ideogram 4 here. It's basically one anon pushing it, which is fine, but let's not confuse that for genuine hype. A couple people asked about it out of curiosity this week, that's the extent of it.
Bernini is more useful as a loose i2v model desu. Adding too many image references looks bad but just using a single image and telling it to animate that feels a little better than normal wan2.2. Then again I haven't used wan in a while, but it's still better because it isn't locked to using the image as only a first or last frame.
I'm already bored of this shit
>>109053121fuck is that in the corner
>>109053155I think it tried to generate a pokemon cause of the Joy prompt. Looks like a malformed Nidoran.
My comfy docker is still on py3.13 + torch2.9.1 + cu130, do I gain anything at all by UPDOOOOOOOOTING or should I keep rocking it until something breaks?
>>109053217Just don't update comfy unless there's some new model you actually want to use
>>109053224I mostly do that already. I was asking if I would gain anything by also upgrading the backend next time I pull after an important commit.
>>109053121>>109053028Hi Catjack
>>109053217>>109053239I have separate comfy extreme edition for rawdogging
>>109052337Since the prompting is so different everything wrong with it can be chalked up to user error. Relatively slow model. Lots of prompt rouletting. No negatives, at least in the default workflow.Two more weeks for a consensus.
Haven't used a Wan model in ages until SCAIL came along. What's the interpolation meta now? I'm still using gimmvfi
Does anyone know of any methods for recreating a style from an image pair? I only managed to generate in this style once with Nano Banana Pro and couldn't exactly replicate it again, even with the same prompt, so I can't generate any amount of training data.
>>109053286I am low on storage from all these models but seems like a good idea.
>>109053787Making lora from single image?
>>109053799A pair, ideally. I want to input an illustration and get this hyper-realistic style where all the lines are preserved (ignore how Nano Banana shrunk the breasts, it's Google after all)
>>109053818Make a style lora from single image.Make gens with it.Transfer the gens to a different styles.Use the second order slop as base images in an edit lora, use the previous gens as output with caption "draw it in tw style".
just wasted 20 hours training as I set the learning rate x10 too high and it just destroyed everything... I was excited to play with my loras...
Has anyone managed to solve the issue of the smearing between frames in ltx 2.3 with fast motion? More steps doesn't fix it for me.
>>109054004what kind of monster are you training for 20h?
>>109054086it was multiple with the same settings copied :(
>>109054035Generate at 1080p and 50 fps but it's not going away completely
I feel zero excitement from AI lately and feel kinda empty due to it. Last few years my free time has been largely consumed by slop
>>109054140That's what happens when you consume anything too much
I've started getting annoyed at the screeching and shutting down of anything related to ai.If you make something genuinely cool you spend weeks working on with AI, you are locked in the same bucket and audience as the indian 1girl sirs.
>>109054191Ignore screeching faggots, don't expect praise for the stuff you make.
>>109054237it's not lack of praise for art that uses AI that depresses me, it's not being allowed to the starting line. All art can be "I like this but everyone thought it was shit". Only AI gets banned from every platform and you never get a chance
>>109054266Because everything is already flooded with zero quality 600pic "image sets"
>>109054279I understand why low quality should be banished and ignored, but if you spend days or weeks on a single image, you can only post in the same places as HELLO SIRS 600 VERSIONS OF 2B ON PONY.
>>109054266AI content that's not just jeet spam is still kind of a new medium but honestly it's not that difficult to get noticed purely because all the jeet spam is so lazy. Just make sure you have some sort of direction with what you're creating and people will notice. People aren't that impressed if you're just generating one singular thing with AI so try to do more than just images or music or 5 second videos.
>>109054266What kind of stuff do you make?
>>109054191I don't think it is even apparent to me how long something took to achieve unless i've tried to do something like it myself. Everyone outside AI will certainly assume that you put in the minimum amount of effort. Can't really fault them.
>>109054308I doubt he makes anything of value, it's obvious he's in this for fee fees instead of for the love of the game. He won't post shit he makes either just larping
>>109054333nah I agree with him, there is nowhere good to post anything done with AI and it is self damaging to the community.People want attention, lets not pretend that is bad, everyone wants people to see what they make and enjoy it.You can't post on say reddit anything with AI, you have to post on some slop website hidden in quantity over quality.
>>109054364for now best course of action is posting on twitter and concealing the fact that you use AI, that's it pretty much
>>109054364If you're good enough nobody will care, you have to be undeniable and you'll get acknowledgment as well as seething even from this thread. Why do you think there are anons in this thread that make good work that have schizos seethe about them for years?
>>109054374your experience doing this will be zero interaction, all the big social media sites are based on existing big creators getting all views.
>>109054364Wouldn't hurt to have a genuine AI art hub but with restrictions on how much you can upload at a time and with a proper rating system. Don't get why every AI site lets you upload thousands of images at once. Seems bad for their bandwidth.
>>109054382there are no notable AI artists, anyone with a following or high view counts just gets there from 500 set slop spam
>>109054387Plenty of people made it big on twatter with posting anime slop. There are both sloppers and quality posters. You kinda need persistence and luck, but it's not impossible
>>109054387If you're in this to feel or look famous you're not in it for the right reasons especially in this stage of image diffusion, all the anons that had acknowledgement or success have been doing it for the fun of the game.Also most people in this hobby shouldn't really care these artist make peanuts compared to the money people make during their day jobs.>>109054394The entire grind for that sounds like hell and the X peanuts you get should be reason enough to have fun and not chase numbers, people will notice your work and it won't feel like shit if you do it for fun. Hell even good actual artist make so little and get so little doing this shit that I don't see the point of doing this grind when I can do my day job
>>109054387>your experience doing this will be zero interaction, all the big social media sites are based on existing big creators getting all views.I've seen very skilled traditional artists give up twitter because they simply get zero views for their stuff. On the other hand there's also debo-tier spammers who get thousands of views. I'd rather setup Instagram page for the art and use x as side gig.
>>109054425it's not low interaction that kills it for me, it's ZERO, not even ability to get views to have judged it in the first place
>>109054425Many of those spammers pay for engagement too which makes it just a exercise in vanity due to zero profit.I also want to highlight one of our worst schizos became completely mindbroken chasing fame and acknowledgement so anons need to be careful not to end up like that anon who is now languishing in a hell of his own creation>>109054440Are you going to post your work or just complain?
>>109054266>>109054364This. I've shared my sentiment before. I make serious art/games/visual novels, not porn slopMy games aren't even listed on Itch.io, I have full AI disclosure, but the site completely blacklisted my shit. Then on the r/renpy subreddit, I tried to post and immediately was flogged by their purists, downvoted into oblivionSo yeah. Unless you already had a following of dicksuckers, your only option is DeviantART, and Israel bought that site years ago, now its filled with bots
>>109054454That's why you do the promotion yourself. Honestly I don't know who even browses itchio's storefront. Also just stay away from reddit in general.
>>109054481reddit is basically the only place you can post in a fair location sadly, by that I mean not to existing followers just to a topic. Hashtags on insta or twitter are fucking useless, it's all just based on who already has the followers
>>109054481Not the point I was trying to make.its not "lack" of engagement - thats not what I care about. its just that the only engagement you DO get is negative. Thats why I haven't reached out to itch.io support to hurry up and index my game.On my website, the only post I have is some dude crying about AI art. baka
>>109054497Again are you going to post work or complain, I would hate for you to say all of this just for you to make absolute dog shit like many people that do complain about this
>>109054508no I am not going to post anything because that is not the point, people on 4chan are bitter and argumentative and it would be insulted regardless
What would be a good Anima lora for NWN1 portraits?
>>109054523The problem with that is you're talking about how you deserve acknowledgement, if you're that sensitive don't post here anon. I'm not even trying to be a dick the problem you're facing might just be due to your work not being something that people find appealing so at that point you're basically complaining about a skill issue on your end.
>>109054558the point has gone way over your head, there is no skill that is ever judged because nothing can make it to the starting point
>>109054523This. The only thing you can post on 4chan is pornslop, or niche anime shit.For example the haydee dev is a huge /v/ fag, so was yandere dev, both getting massive followings from 4chan alone. But their games are superficial as fuck.Posting something that you actually spent alot of time and effort on thats got your heart in it only opens you up to be flogged by the massive drones of people hiding behind irony built up from years of learning how to troll efficiently.
>>109054564No that's not true at all and proves my point if this is how you approach this hobby you should find better uses of your time. You're in this for attention and not enjoyment which again leads to legit schizo behavior because you're torturing yourself.
>>109054539Aren't most CRPG portraits really low res? Going to be hard to find good training data
>>109054596They are also very unappealing, but I wouldn't mind blurry ugly outputs as long as they fit the original artstyle.
This took 47 mins at 1280p vs 15 mins at 896p. Not sure the extra time is worth it, the lower res already captured the movements pretty much perfectly. It does preserve some of the more complex details during movement though.>>>/wsg/6173194
>>109054629Kino, but I would rather have it with no mouth movement since it can't sync with the song.
>>109054696Very, very nice.
>>109054662In the original video there was lip syncing so I added that to the prompt to see if it would just work. I can't tell if it's just making it up entirely or if it's just not very good at recreating the lip movements. This >>>/wsg/6172870 was the first one I did, to me it looks like it is capturing the lip movements and it's not entirely random. It might depend on the quality of the reference and how clear it is.
> >109054696Fuck off debo
>>109054704>6 fingers>bottom right says anal for no reason>same style posted for the 1333rd time>bad crophi nigbo
@comfyui --high-ram chads, how are we feelin? is this shit working or is it another dogshit implementation?https://github.com/Comfy-Org/ComfyUI/pull/14437
>>109054704ty. this series was fun
>>109054711I see. I does look like it's syncing to the lyrics at times. What are you using?
>>109054736i wish i was as unemployed as you
>>109054716>>109054712Stop falling for it please, he's lonely>>109054732This will be useful for many thing
>>109054712>>109054716>>109054762>>109054764Dude, please, just stop it. Your obsession is not healthy.
>>109054762you have to work on sunday morning?
>>109054266This isn't gonna change either because most of the AI art I see online is genuinely low effort slop. Like some guy going into Grok imagine and undressing a woman - or going into Gemini and generating fetish shit or shipper shit.
>>109054780it's happening when people just hide they are using AI at all, I can make a pretty cool looking sketch by tracing AI for example. It covers up my low skill in anatomy etc
>>109054750SCAIL-2. This is my first time really messing around with vid gens. I have an Ampere GPU so I can't make use of FP8, FP4, sage attention 3, etc. It just takes too long to iterate properly like this. I'll probably go back to Anima and Ideogram genning soon, but it was fun to try this out at least.
>>109054394>there are no notable AI artiststhis is just from my youtube bubble off top of my head:skybrowse, don p bongwater, hard archive, and there are more but it's pointless really i know better than to take this bait
>>109054806He's whining to whining and has a circular argument, I don't understand why mentally ill retards like that anon love wasting people's time bullshitting. The moment he refused to post his work I knew it was a waste of time replying to him after his bullshit excuse.
>>109054732stopped caring about cumfart honestly. it's been way too much of a shitshow lately so I switchedhttps://github.com/leejet/stable-diffusion.cpp/commit/bb90bfa00f858c7df6502e75f31c4440d4d11fde
>>109054806he said artist, not techbro grifter LMAO.
>>109054839NTA but if you mean skybrowse, I'm pretty sure anon meant skybrows (without the E). Kind of funny there's some chink AI grifter with the same name.
>>109054848Nevermind it's skyebrows (with the E in a different area)
until the whiny faggot is willing to show his shit stop entertaining him. We have always had shitters with inflated egos that seethe when they don't motion and lash out at anons that do.
AI engineers replacing "you're absolutely right" with "Fair enough" and "Fair."Fills me with so much incomprehensible rage.
>>109054848yeah, i >>109054806 was stupid, sorry
>nigboeww
>>109054872>>109054829Lol, dude, take a break you are not /ldg/ police, fuck off, let people express themselves.
>>109054838Hope this lives up to llama.cpp someday. I fucking hate Python fucking shit.
Just tested how a fa2 wheel compares against default pytorch attention in comfy.Well, it more or less runs same speed, just slightly slower. Tested multiple models and quants, couldn't find a situation where it is faster.Images are most similar, just lesser details shifted around. Got like 1 image where I would say there was a more prominent change.I ended up breaking 3 custom nodes for this but at least my curiosity is sated now.
>>109055000catbox please?
>>109054976Are you upset that you're getting honest feedback or are you upset over the fact you're afraid to do the one thing that would end your ability to bitch and moaning?This is like a athlete crying about not getting picked in the draft and when asked to show his performance he gets emotional runs away.
>>109055000Very good gen!
>>109054984it already supports RPC like llamacpp and it has parallelism for multigpu for a decent 11% speedup
>>109055006wothless piece of shit
>>109055000Are you trying to act nice because you want to distribute malware again?
>>109055020Do you own the rights to that prompt anon?
>>109055000less comfy news, more sdcpp news please
>>109055025He offered an anon a low traction random Chinese repo when they asked for regional prompt for anima. He still pretends people can't read the OP to avoid his bullshit.
>>109055014i'm not him, let people post whatever they want instead of you acting like the discussion police.
>>109055000wait you're STILL posting slop 16+ hours per day? Still no job in sight?
>>109055054Usecase or a you lonely on a Sunday again? Must be rough staring out the window from your battle station and watching people your age spending time with their wives and kids.
>>109055053Sorry but I don't want to hear someone bitching about a subject where he can get an honest answer doing the one simple trick of posting his work. This isn't some abstract discussion it's either you're good or not. It's bad enough we have a lonely NEET spamming garbage here non stop ignoring his vanity containment thread while he tries to trick newfags into installing malware. Gatekeeping is needed and not having it cost us /sdg/
has anyone trained a lora on the unconditional ideogram model yet? only loading a lora on the main model usually turns the entire image to shit, but i just discovered that if you gen with a simple blank background made the likeness improve like crazy while still maintaining the quality. i assume the likness improved because the lora, which isnt trained on the unconditional model, is degrading the final output. so i'm training a lora with the same exact dataset and settings but on the unconditional model instead, to use them on their own respective model to see if i can have the best of both worlds.
>109055074>he thinks I have a window
>>109055054lol
>>109055010should still be up from yesterday>>109049968>>109055016ty :)>>109055041I'd post it if I saw it. doesn't seem like there's much movement around sdcpp afaict
Usecase for debo to use ComfyUI? He never needed it, his workflow should be txt2img and with some wildcard node.
>>109055099He needs attention, stop replying to him and only protect newfags from installing anything he recommends not having his obsessions around means he's desperate and bored.>>109055079How good are the loras is ideogram decent at fat titty anime bitches?
>>109055095because that's your responsibility to spread the news dummy. pay attention to their uptates
Are there any models that can generate me an image similar to the one that I already have on my PC, but replace the character with another character, in the same pose? The character is in anime art style
>>109055118Are you new here?You do know on at least 2 occasions he gave anons malware and thought it was funny right?He has never apologized for this either
>>109055095Can you be a net loss to society somewhere else? It's enough that i pay for your neetbux just because you refuse to get a job thread schizo
>>109055122Maybe Klein can do this without slopping too much but I am not sure.
>>109055113>How good are the loras is ideogram decent at fat titty anime bitches?amazing but also shit
>>109055079>only loading a lora on the main model usually turns the entire image to shityou have to put the lora on the uncond model also. this works even when the lora was trained on cond
>>109055079I've thrown a couple of datasets at Ideogram as a test and get pretty perfect likeness, far better than Klein and ZiT at least. I didn't train the unconditional model but I load the lora on both
>>109055144>>109055158>you have to put the lora on the uncond model also. this works even when the lora was trained on condyes, i know. loading the lora on both models works fine, and the likeness is very good, but you can see that it hurts the performance of the lora and the likeness. try loading the lora on only the main model, write a simple 1girl prompt with a simple white or black background and you'll see what i mean. the likeness improves like crazy, but of course it limits you to a basic image. so my theory is that instead of using the same lora for both models, we use loras trained for each model respectively, and we get the best of both worlds.
>>109055130>at least 2 occasions he gave anons malware and thought it was funny rightProofs?
>the unemployed ffaze tries yet another time to make anons download his malwareBe careful anons, all links he posts are considered infected
Oh he's doing that thing where he pretends not to understand basic things or read OP>>109055140Fuck I'll need to use this model then
gm /sdg/
Don't make me gen animated ffaze's smooching trani
>>109055268You will never be real woman
There's not a SINGLE reason for all the debo hate.
nsfw ish resident ebilhttps://files.catbox.moe/d6u6fc.mp4
>>109055319nice, love the colors here
>>109055310yuck
>>109055183I'm not convinced but it's definitely something worth testing. I'll train a lora on the unconditional model overnight
>>109055427hello time traveling SD1.5 user
>>109054364 >>109054454 Unemployed graphic designer here who fell for the meme with an Art degree, in other words an actual starving artist.Already complaining you can't post you slop everywhere? Well for you to know the real art world doesn't care. Talented and experienced artists get ignored, underpaid, and replaced every single day, none of us are special.And as for myself you didn't invent a new art style. You didn't invent story structure arc or the hero's journey. You didn't invent western comics or cel shading. All you did was take pre existing ideas and recombine them in a slightly different order.So be gratefull you have a stable job, with stable income and have money to have a good GPU and free time to bitch about "being opresed as AI artist" you faggots. Trust me, you don't want to be artists.
>>109055493This are local boobs?>lol
>>109055388i have about 20 epochs left of training. i'll report back when it's done.
>>109055493Looks like that Russian vlogger>>109055525Rangiku!
do any of you feel emotionally connected to your 1girl?its just that when you invest so much time and effort into building datasets, training, genning, and deeply studying the results, you inevitably develop an emotional bond with her.curious if this is something other people experience too
Is it true that you artists spend hours, sometimes even days, drawing pic rel and then expect recognition for it? Do you imagine yourselves in an art gallery, with people admiring and praising your work?
>>109055612stylusslop
>>109055590Ok jennyfag
>>109055572I have thousands of gens like this, I think I'm just gonna farm content for some extra money
>>109055523>>109055627nice poses.
haven't been here for a while, does any of the new models actually have what it takes to be the true XL successor(small, fast, easily trainable, but still a noticeable upgrade) or are they all duds
>>109055612I gen but I still think handdrawn art is cooler, what now
>>109055715Anima has its drawbacks and is not a 100% replacement for aesthetic and style adherence like SDXL. Many AI image genners still use Illustrious for second passes or inpainting.
>>109055715Anima fits almost criteria.>fastWell it's two and half times slower than SDXL, but still relatively fast compared to larger models and the difference is worth it.
>>109055756it does so damn many of those small movements that make it seem real
>>109055772Are these issues inherent to the model or can they be solved with time? Took XLand derivates a long time to get where they are
>>109055765hand drawn>uses stylus>uses layers>uses vectors>uses ctrl z>uses ctrl c ctrl v>they don't mix and merge their own ink colors anymore>textures as digital brushes>cloning toolsDrawfags themselves were the first to enter the slop rat race.
>>109055799yeah and I still think it's cooler
who let the nigbo outwhowho who who who
>>109055790For example, in the Krita AI Diffusion Discord server they are encountering several architectural flaws where resolutions above 1536x generate a lot of noise.
>>109055756once scail2 gets lora support, the video gen scene will experience a huge revival
>>109055803Alright, enjoy your Starbucks, your polo shirt, your thick rimmed glasses, and your Mac.
ideogram is the model with the least censorship, and region prompting is boss. its a total win
>>109055790All realism merge checkpoints for Anima have had their character databases wiped.
tell me what tech advances to look for forward too in two years or i'll kill myself
>>109055831yeah but it's slopped AF and still too big to get a serious finetune, seems like the next FOTM that only a couple people will use once the hype dies down
>>109055836name few wiped characters. not seeing such effect yet>>109055835hips too wide, elbows too sharp!
>>109055836retarded question, does this really matter if its easy to train
>>109055790If you are a poopfag or have some niche concept fetish that isn't supported on Anima, you are out of luck unless you want to train a LoRA and deal with the catastrophic forgetting.Styles work well with Anima, character LoRAs are a gamble, but concept LoRAs almost always cause the model to forget what it previously knew.
>>109055851suicide booths
>>109055869>the catastrophic forgettingProofs plox
>>109055790Anima base is flawed, Russell messed up with the modified text encoder and fried it. There is a reason why he is already thinking about Anima 2 almost one week after releasing Anima base.
>>109055894kek
>>109055894sounds goodanything else?
>>109055928probably not much.
>>109055835can you do a gen of 2 people interacting?
its uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i94qkL7BwGw
>>109055869Training loras is super easy retard
What's the best sampler and scheduler for realism when using Z Image Base? I'm getting good results with DPM++ SDE Beta but it's agonizingly slow.
It's crazy how much a small group of retards are criticizing a base model but when their company shat out flawed models the same faggots fought tooth and nail to justify it's flaws. It took many...many months for XL to be acceptable yet these same faggots that are jelly of Russel's success are throwing stones.
>>109055790The issue is that fixing current flaws inevitably delete old ones.Tdrussell is already thinking about Anima 2, and it'll be based on a completely different base model. If you recall, he had originally planned an Anima 1.1 with a refreshed dataset, something he mentioned in the window between the second and third previews. But after the Base model release and the Tensor Art drama, he dropped that idea entirely and shifted focus toward Anima 2 on a new foundation.All of this is documented in his Hugging Face Community tab if you followed the model from the start.
>>109055947ehhh not worth it thengoodbye /idg/
>muh catastrophic forgettingit is actually unreal that this meme started entirely from a few noobcord retards taking an undertrained preview model, frying it with a learning rate literally 10x higher than it should be, and then confidently stating that the model is brokenI have had zero problems with any of my loras. whether concept or style, Anima learns better than anything I've been able to get out of SDXL
>>109055388>>109055079>I'll train a lora on the unconditional model overnightdont bother. it looks like shit lmao
Ideogram isn't a distilled model right? So why can't it use negatives?
How did tard russel fuck up anima so bad? Anon is right about the catastrophic forgettingWe need a better model baker
>>109055983The retard is just spreading FUD because his Apache2 Anima was rejected.He's very salty that every single scheme he has made over the years fizzled out
uh oh melty
if youre an amd user on arch using the latest kernel (7.0.12) and the latest comfyui, model loading will be broken and initial gen step will take about 16mins~. Downgrade to 7.0.11 to fix it.
>>109055815but scail is just wan2.1, those loras already work
>Anti-Anima anons:Articulate and coherentSpeak from actual hands-on experienceCite sources, reference specific time periods and model periodsMake concrete, testable claims>tdrusell fanboys:Resort to ad hominem the second they're challengedDefend the model blindly with no critical thoughtHaven't actually stress-tested it, just parroting from within their own limited bubbleTheir magnum opus is a character LoRA with basic clothing, or a style the base model already had baked in
>>109055983>this meme started entirely from a few noobcord retardsThe term "catastrophic interference" was originally coined by Michael McCloskey and Neal J. Cohen in 1989, in their paper, "Catastrophic Interference in Connectionist Networks: The Sequential Learning Problem," published in Psychology of Learning and Motivation (vol. 24, pp. 109–165). Notably, this was a cognitive science paper, not a computer science one. McCloskey and Cohen were studying how connectionist models compared to human memory. The issue was furthered by Ratcliff (1990), who also studied connectionist models of recognition memory, and not "from a few noobcord retards".
so basically these threads are full of retarded niggers and we'll only see if Anime is the XL successor everyone is waiting for with time?
>>109056038yepjust a few over 30 virgins arguing about nothing much
>>109056038A failed dev that really really wants to be famous in this space got a bug up is his ass after years of failure so him and his small circle of losers bitch and moan over someone other than them getting a chance at making a new model basically.
who is top dog king shit gigachad of the local models space?
GuysGUYSLe catastrophic forgetting :(
>>109056068FurkanGozukara
>>109056068debo
>>109056010the 2.1 loras dont work properlythey remove too much of the micromovements, at least based on my testing
so what's the latest on Z edit
>>109056361just the video editing and even that still falls apart when there is too many subjects
No, I don't think that's right
Can you get into legal trouble if you put an artist LoRA on Civitai? Has anyone yet?
>>109056389sir thats a pipe bomb
>>109056390yes i got sued over 9000 times and then the artist raped me in the ass
>updoot linux>comfyui stops loading models for on reason, it literally just hangs at 0% and there's no CPU/GPU load at allwhy is this shit so fragile? i didn't even touch the comfy installation itself
>>109056399Fuck I hate anal, I guess it's better to err on the side of caution.
>>109056402Linux doesn't accept retards. I'm running comfy and llms in an isolated vm (linux on linux). No issues.
>>109056415i was wondering if containerizing it was worth it. that way the rocm libraries never change unless i ask it to.
>>109056421That is literally the most recommended thing to do. Use a docker image and have multiple cumfart installs. I fucking hate how much this shitty app demands in logistics
>>109055158great tests man. can you do same with dimistricus and shared the lora?
>>109055158she's a bit wide aint she?
>>109056474That's the problem with bounding boxes
>>109056442>dimitriscus>shared the lorawhat brown country are you from
>>109056474Cuckmodels are so afraid to generate a child that they overcompensate by making tiny heads and wide shoulders.
>>109056488Romania.
>>109056402>>109056002
>>109056506ah shit, so i guess containerization won't fix it. maybe the other anon is right and i should just dedicate a VM to it. can you let your VM somehow use your GPU without completely passing it through?
>>109056516Passthrough is the only viable option. Emulation is slow and doesn't support cuda.
>>109052065was gone for a bit, hope I can try it out now>>109056361it is an editing thing but it works really pretty wellmake invented 1girl or exiting anime waifu dance or w/e. it also uses stuff wan already could do, e.g. the dangling chains were not there in the original video
ideogram trains very well it seemshttps://files.catbox.moe/5g3j74.png
I GOT ace step 1.5 xl sft MUZAKS IN THE OVEN
>>109056627not great, not terrible. For me it's zbase all day everyday
>>109056651haven't seen a good ZIM nsfw lora yet desu, as a coomer I've given up on it
>>109056651zbase. I haven't played with it. It's better than zit?
>>109056667It's much more versatile and gets you good results once you get the hang of it but the gen times are brutal which is why it probably won't ever really take off
>>109056662>haven't seen a good ZIM nsfw loraI haven't uploaded them>>109056667For nsfw concepts it's much better. You can make low rank lora with few dozen images and it will learn the concept.
>>109056699>I haven't uploaded themthe ones from civitai I've tried were all Sarah Petersen tier
sarah petersen desu
>>109056699>ZIMwhat's zim???
>>109056708Yes Civitai is filled with low effort slop >>109056734He means ZiB
>>109056721xe would fit into this tranny general perfectly.
>>109056734Z Image (Base)
>>109056627>picrelIt's hard for me to believe realism-engine-ideogram-4 lora examples are real but I only genned 2d with the model so far.>>109056699Post some gens with metadata.
>>109056743>>109056740>He means ZiBaha
>>109056741It would be funny to have him shilling his loras with BBC bait every day, anyone with a civitai account to message him and tell him to share his loras here?
>>109056741doubt it's a tranny, probably just jeet
When will we have edit-anima? Editing is the only thing that matters in 2026. No more lora for characters. No consistency issues.
>>1090567862 weeks
SCAIL 2.0 is pretty fun, Kinda messed up some details here but if I did a better job with the prompt and inputs i think it would have done better.
>>109056786we need noobai for tranima
>>109056812which loras are you using?
>>109056810As t2i anima is good for 2B. You can't squeeze much more this architecture. But editing is still possible.
>>109056834janima did a good job and its nowhere near noobai size tunehttps://civitai.red/models/2642932/janima?modelVersionId=2967640
>>109056833Model:sam Anima 2.0Loras:anima turbo - strength 0.4anima Mature Female sliderPrompt: real lifeCFG:1Steps: 30
>>109056865>CFG:1That's surprising...
is there a llm that can tag, and properly json format for ideogram? I've seen people making claims about it but from my testing, all seem to hallucinate the bboxes.
>>109056863That looks like it could've been a LoRA
>>109056377chinese culture
>>109056865also, do you like the sam "v2.1 turbo"?
>>109056882Seems like sam Anima has turbo merged into it since it works with cfg 1. Not like I complain. It improves speed two times.
>>109056904Haven't tried it yet. 2.0 base is okay.
>>109056911yeah that's it. I think it was a typo to not say "2.0 turbo". all the others say turbo.
>>109056805Cool man
>>109056865do the loras do anything at cfg 1?
I ask because anima Mature Female slider was apparently removed, even from red.
>>109057020Only negative prompt is ignored with cfg 1. I use NegPip for negatives. But loras work. Turbo lora seems to add skin imperfections in hentai gens which expose a lot of skin.>>109057032https://civitai.red/models/2118055/mature-slider
brobert did some nice work https://github.com/Brobert-in-aus/scail-auto-extend extends the amount of frames scail can handle, helps with masking subjects and it is a pretty good default workflow IMO
>>109057084I was making a semi complex workflow to achieve exactly this, lol.
>>109056627more info?looks good
>>109057097https://civitai.red/models/2688234/realism-engine-ideogram-4
>>109057091not perfect yet tho so if you figured anything out that might help lets add that tooI am currently wondering if resizing the resolution of the reference image as he does in v3 is actually a good idea. with an aspect ratio mismatch or just 2+ not perfectly frame filling characters maybe the resized reference is too low res to work. still trying this out tho.
>>109056377It's over lil bro, time to let go.
>>109057112>>109056627Unfortunately, civitai doesn't allow celeb loras. ideally, there would be a sfw lora with a bunch of celebs.
>>109056488oh come on. stop licking the anus of every posters. america is full of indian ceos. you should shut your mouth full of cum dylan
>>109057174Not for long, the USA isn't.
>>109056745>Post some gens with metadata.i'll post later
is there like a list of nsfw positions and stuff?
>>109057293https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups
That reminds me, has anyone used LLMs to translate natural language into booru tags? Seems like it would save a lot of trouble. I tried ChatGPT and it refused, kek.
>>109057321Why would you do that? Tags are shit. Tags are a subset of natural language. They by definition can convey only a tiny fraction of what is possible with natural language. All modern models should support natlang.
>>109057305thank you anon
>>109055054anon, you have saved the world
>>109057340I'm using the /trash/ models which only seem to support e621/danbooru tags.
ai gemini free can now access 4chan...
>>109057355LLMs don't know booru/e621 tags aside from 1girl, 1boy, etc. They'll hallucinate spellings and tags. Therefore, you'd first need to dump all tags into context (it'll be tens of thousands of tokens) before asking it to convert.
>>109057386You have no fucking idea what you are talking about shut the fuck up before you post misinformation faggot
>>109057340tags however can also at random mean random things, that you didn't think of.a quirk...
>>109057373this website is reddit enough to be safe now
>>109057430Yeah, the mods don't allow the gamer word on blue boards. :((( even /v/
>>109057402nigger, I literally tried using llms to generate tags for sdxl gens>>109057409Natlang can be ambiguous too. But ambiguity doesn't make prompting easier. It sucks when concepts bleed into each other because one concept consisting of two words contains a word that means a different thing.
>>109057455It's frustrating indeed, and it's solvable using machine vision to detect these problems and direct the learning.>>109057070trying an impossible tier acestep. it will fail, and then I'll try animaway ealismray
>>109057451ahem...... aaahhemmmm... *cough cough* mmm.... ermmmmm uhh NIGGER! huh did someone say something?
>accidentally typed the wrong order of words into the voice scriptshe became the esl queen
>>109057487I've gotten short-term b&s from blue boards this year for "racism". idk.
is the ideogram licence cucked or is there a chance of finetunes?
>>109057455which models retard, no seriously also can you even run a model that can do the job?Post your specs before I waste my time talking to your wetbrained ass.
>>109057641there are already nude/penis/cum loras on civit, and they're all better than chroma. i hope it gets a finetune because historically forced-nsfw loras have been complete shit, but ideogram ones are surprisingly good. so what we see now is only 20% of its true power.
>>109057641noserious finetuners dont touch anything with a cucked licenseyou can only hope for jeetmixes
i'm trying to combine two ideogram4 loras but it turns to shit. does the model not handle more than one lora or is my workflow/lora cooked?
i heard 'russ was going to train on ideogram but nobody bought his tensaarart anima subscription and now he's broke.
>>109057685I am one of the anti-ideogram guys.gooda rucka
>>109057691why is she glowing? give her a black background instead
>>109057671Hey just replying to myself because you just proved you have zero fucking idea what you're talking about and should fuck off from llm discussions because you obviously don't know shit faggot
>>109057682so another potentially great model killed by its licence?
i thought BASED CHINA didnt care about licenses and was ready to pwn the west by releasing tons of free uncensored models??? what happened there?
>>109057682it already beats k9 and zit out of the box and the loras that are available right now on civitai make it the best local realistic nsfw model. Maybe it can't do tranime but I don't care about that
>>109056865>>109057468
>>109057691I think you are doing a good job, but I want to point out her chin keeps turning into moot for various frames.But it's not vomit tier in the face. lxt does something most of the time that is just viscerally awful and I close it, I don't even know why. It's a gut vomit.
>>109057768having to tell it it's a photo. might have the wrong sampler & scheduler
>>109057775i think thats wan
>>109057455Poster like you are a cancer to this general because you talk about things with certainty despite having zero fucking idea what you are talking about please never fucking post here again
>>109057487you can say it as long as you dont actually say it unironically against someone, then you get banned 9/10 times
>>109057781Definitely fun.My prompt is just:>A fat woman atop a Tiger II tank facing clowns who are carrying guns. medium format photograph.the boob slider doesn't seem to be working, it was set to 1.0. idk, I'm trying 6.0, but it looks in the preview like... well, for fat women, anyway, it ignores the lora or the lora ignores the prompt or idk.
>>109057781gonna change scheduler, then sampler.
>>109057881Why aren't they falling off of buildings?
the new comfyui --high-ram argument had no difference to me with 128gb ram, rip
>>109057917what about the sdcpp one?
>>109057809Seethe more, retard. I'm staying just to annoy you.I didn't even bother pointing out wrong appearance tags, just wrong spellings of general tags.
>>109056865>Prompt: real lifeaha, adding that to the prompt now.I'm finding I need a lot more steps though.>>109057863this is 100 steps. It fixes "sd/idiogram face". But I think I need to try cfg, this is cfg 1.
>>109057949>absurdresthe image gen equate of "make no mistakes" in llms.
>>109057146brobert here.SCAIL-2 (in replace mode) encodes the input image as a reference latent and uses both the colour masking and spatial relationship to work out how to map the input image to the video.Getting the aspect ratio wrong gives weird results like the attached.In addition to matching the aspect ratio, you also want to match the spatial position and relative size of the characters.
>>109057949Friendly reminder that Anima's problems largely come down to Russell captioning the dataset with a local (eww) Gemma (eww) instead of supperior WD tagger, using a model that has no clue about anime to caption anime training data is a great way to get garbage out.
>>109057991Here is my attempt:masterpiece, best quality, real life, photo \(medium\), tank, clown sitting on the tank turret, grassy field and dirt road, three-quarter viewcfg: 1steps: 30er_sde / simple
>>109058017did people still not figure out the best way to tag is undensored novelprompt + undensored tagslop?
>>109057991Somehow that image leaked german-ness from the tank to the rest.cfg=3cfg may vary in need a lot, depending on various factors.
>>109057691If you're using my wf, you can set the background to a black to get rid of that white border (it's fine to pad with white though).If one of the characters has black clothing/hair you'll need to use a slightly brighter colour, but as long as you keep it reasonably dark the border shouldn't show up.
>>109058045When I used cfg>1 it destroyed realistic details, smoothing everything flat, just like in your example.
>>109058021I like it. I wonder how long it will take for prompting to be able to add the drone cope cages. Have you seen the one from Ukraine covering an Abrams? It's HUGE.I also wonder who will field the first drone war -oriented tank. My suggestion is a cone shape (with the point up). That's because your goal now is to minimize aerial presence. You can actually have light armor underneath, if you use an apron, but beware, all weaknesses could be a problem down the road, no pun.
Why are people so obsessed with realism? If you want a realistic image, just go outside and take a photo, or grab something off Google Images and do a photomontage. It's not that hard.
>>109058079ok I'm outside. It's dark out here. I am likely to be attacked by a fat woman on a tank and her icp fanbois.
>>109058079The percent of 3dpd that are actually cute is so low that it's a miracle to find one irl. Also, can't take a photo of her cosplaying as some anime girl and doing lewd things.
>>109058060>>109058045I'm investigating. This looks cool, to me.cfg 3lcmkarras100 steps.
>>109058110and I'm realizing it probably doesn't know what Tiger II means, so this is a bit of a promptlet scenario
>>109057949>gets exposed>gets saltyPost spec and tell me the model retard, this doesn't work when you can't even display basic knowledge
>asks for the model>can't read>calls others retarded
>He doesn't know how to guide the llm to actually prompt correctlyI'm not surprised, he think all specialized llms just do everything the right way by default without proper guidance.
>>109058079Well why not just watch anime instead of trying to generate it? The work is already done for you.
Behold, the day ComfyUI was defeated not by Forge, but by Chrome and split view.
>>109058151I dont get it
>>109058151setting two windows side by side is the same except it somehow has even less bezels than that shit
>>109058151Haven't tested it, but does sending an image back and forth between txt2img and img2img actually work without needing to refresh? Like can you just keep iterating on it? Looks comfy as hell anon
>>109058142I'm also using the same model as that anon, all of his issue are legitimate skill issues
>>109058142Increase your own context window. The convo started when anon asked to generate tags. The reply was that LLMs do not reliably remember all booru tags, but only most popular ones. Your own screenshot shows that the model is not using tags.Anima is much better than sdxl specifically because it understands natural language. We aren't limited by remembering exact tag spellings but can write in natural language.
>>109058192I told the model to inherently mix tags with natural language there are also multiple ways to give the model access to all available tags which makes that a moot point, to think any model will be able to perfectly cite every booru tag without inherent guidance is silly. This has been solved for years at this point.
>>109058205>there are also multiple ways to give the model access to all available tags which makes that a moot point,
>>109058205>to think any model will be able to perfectly cite every booru tag without inherent guidance is sillyThat's exactly what was said here >>109057386 The first anon asked to convert his prompts to perfect e621 tags. The answer was: it's impossible without providing context of what tags exist.
>>109058232You can just use Use PostgreSQL with pgvector and pg_trgm or just general RAG to circumvent that.
>>109058254Yes, there are many options how to reduce context, but seriously, the gist is that you need to feed tag definitions.Besides, ragging or tools for searching will probably take much more time per prompt than just dumping all tags into context, caching context once and making lots of prompts based on this single context cache.
wheres the kinos at?
>>109058042Tried captioning my SFW dataset using GPT, Gemini Pro, and Claude (free trialing my way through all three). Turns out they're all equally terrible at it can't reliably identify clothing details, struggle to distinguish green from brown eyes, and just pad everything with vague poetic garbage instead of precise descriptors.Which makes me wonder just how catastrophic the captions Tsrusel used for Anima must be if even frontier SaaS models can't do this right.
>>109058273Are anons with the hardware to do this really that pressed for speed when they should have rigs capable of running all of this? I wouldn't bother doing this without 24gb of vram minimum and that's on the small side.
>>109058288Did you guide the llm to properly do the tagging?It sounds like you didn't anima is fine and due to it's construction it's the easiest model to work with using llms.
>>109058300They are SaaS models, my prompt was "vibetag the image in detail, from general to particular"
>>109058049thanks for the workflow and advice
>>109058315......please stay out of this discussion
>>109058300Feeding a 1 page system prompt to a 3B model like Qwen for image captioning is wasteful, the model spends most of its limited capacity just comprehending the instructions, leaving barely anything for the actual captioning. You are lobotomizing it before it even starts.
1girl, big boob, milf, plump, smugqueue 1 million gens, thanks
>>109058358We're not talking about that
I hate being local...
>>109058273>just dumping all tags into context,Wanted to do this, it's like 100k tokens
>>109058398arent you PROUD of being local?
>>109058405I thought it would be more desu but that can be fixed by lowering your model/quant you can also dump context after the job is complete if you're really that pressed for space.
I have local guilt...
Local shaming...
>>109058398i love local
I have transition guilt...
whats the negative meta for anima?
>>109058475satan
>>109058475Using Anima itself is a negative meta for Anima. Stay with SDXL, at the end of the day you didn't win anything using that model that is 2 times slower.
hi can someone make a new thread? and include me in it. thanks!
>>109058528sorry, we all agreed this would be the last one
>>109058549ok, farewell
We have /sdg/, /adt/ and /de3/ /ldg/ isn't necessary
>>109058579/sdg/ is a cope thread at this point
>>109058586/ldg/ is a snowflake thread that can't stand with a bunch of avatarfags
>>109058605This sounds bitter, it was a corpo shill thread that had it's lunch taken away by skilled posters. It's only kept up by spite by a broken schizo. Can you name one cool thing posted in that thread, we have anons posting advanced workflows here and actual discussion.I'll wait for the NEET and his friends to show cool things off....
>>109058626>>109039268>>109038745>>109056206>>109055546
>>109058626>we have anons posting advanced workflows here and actual discussion.FUCK OFF. The majority of people here are here shitposting and derailing because they hate this general. Everyone hates ldg except catjack and other ldg discord members who give emergency bumps and bake it when ldg is about to die.
>>109058645>good morning >>109058668This sounds even more bitter.
>>109058626Nobody cares about your 24+ GB VRAM workflow, that excels at recreating some whore imitating Patrick Bateman.
>>109055968I keep coming back to this one. It's the best the best (nobody else ever heard of it)
>>109058680I checked the Internet and whores are still very popular.
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>>109058692Heun is GOAT but it's 2x slower
>discord
>>109058668It's odd because everyone is having a good time except a few strange fellows that have dedicated years of their life to making all image gen threads worse because they can't be popular. They have been at it for years and keep failing too. All the major news happens in this thread, not the cope thread that some bitter sperg keeps alive as a safe space.>>109058679Very bitter it's odd that he hasn't learned his lesson after all these years
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