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anyone else use win32priorityseperation?
which one?
>>109068707>gigabyte
>>109068707white unless your into niggers
>>109068739>literally every other being the fucking sameLooks better feature wise than MSI for an X870 at this priceASUS and ASSrock, lol
>>109068707One has faster usb4 and a backplateThe other is the same but white and no backplate
>>109068680qrd?
Could you wealthy anons please commit financial seppuku so this thread can devolve into the price rant fest it was destined to be?
>>109068854In very simple terms the moment you edit your Win32PrioritySeparation value you are effectively changing the way your processor is scheduling tasks on a very base level below all of the layers. This is important because different values can optimize your system for background tasks or real-time applications depending on your needs.A short quantum for your value means the CPU allocates a short amount of time to applications. A long quantum gives applications the chance to hog the CPU for longer, implying there is less context switching.Longer quantums are commonly used in server versions of Windows but can also lead to improved FPS performance in games and higher stability in audio applications. Shorter quantums should theoretically improve responsiveness since the data is refreshed faster and is more up-to-date for your foreground application (game).A fixed quantum means that the time is divided equally between applications while a variable value will allow certain applications to hold the CPU for longer if needed. A variable quantum should then allow your game to run at better FPS (can gain more CPU time), while a fixed quantum should allow for better inputs since CPU time is distributed equally between your game and the processes that are responsible for your input devices.An important note to make here is that depending on how you use your PC a certain value might feel and produce worse/better results. A simple example is that if you go full input prioritization with something like 40 Decimal/26 Decimal depending on how many background applications/processes you have the value will produce different results.If you only have the game open the 40/26 Decimal value will make your inputs feel quite snappy and produce decent FPS, while if you game with a bunch of browser tabs open and other applications too much of your CPU time will be spent on the background tasks leading to a worse input and FPS.
>>109068547can you recommend some good wired vidya controllers? hall effect, tough and durable, 2 sticks, at least 2 analog triggers
>>109068547OP is waifu garbage instead of Noctua AIO KILL ALL SIMPS
>>109068171>the guy with a 3060 and an i5 but plenty of brown fansYou know what's funny? Most Noctua fanboys have this exact type of a rig. Mid tier hardware that doesn't need heavy cooling, then spending more on the shit colored fans than they did on the guts they're cooling.I couldn't imagine myself spending so much money on fans if I didn't overspend on everything else, but Noctua fanboys are a special breed, the same type of cult of brand mentality as Apple fanatics. Anything that is Noctua or Noctua colored is something they need to buy no matter what. 3D printing filament? Yeah they're gonna buy it and then proceed to print nothing of practical value with it once to leave those rolls gathering dust.Then of course their only cope will be that anyone bitching about Noctua is "poor", even though being bad with your money is the sign of a coping poorfag, and there is nothing more irresponsible than spending more on fucking case fans than on your GPU.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-BXK4CO9zYI'm goona coom
couple of days ago I talked about how it would make sense for amd to make a 9080 xt 24/32GB using gddr6 to keep prices down and compete with the super series, the regulars of the general will rememberin the last broken silicon mlid said exactly the same thing, but it's not a leak, just a wish
>>109069851a 32gb OC'd 9070XT would be underwhelming.a 96cu 384bit 24gb RDNA4 card would require taping out and probably wouldn't sell as well as the 9070XT did because AMD would price it incorrectly.
ugh...do i buy the a6000? is AI really the future?
>>109070044do you make money working with AI?
>>109069851>to keep prices downDelusional. Not only does AMD not want to keep prices down, it has never kept prices down. And it certainly won't release cheap cards with a lot of memory considering the current memory pricing>last broken siliconFound your problem
>>109070019they are not going to make a new chip, it has to be the 9070xt chip, and they are also not gonna die shrink it to 3nm because 3nm is a far more expensive waferI think there is a huge market for a 9070xt with 32gb gddr6 launched to compete with supers and around $800 msrp, people look to play around with ai and vram is the name of the gamegaming wise it would be the same as the 9070xt, but I can see it dissuading people from buying 5070ti super and 5080 super because of it having 32GB vs 24GB and being 30~50% cheaper
>>109070044Not enough memory for real ML workloads
>>109069851why do you need that much VRAM?both AMD and Nvidia have APU mini-PCs to compete with Mac Mini (which is what AI developers are using), they don't want to sell GPUs to AI workers.
>>109070080So you're saying he needs four of them
>>109070117the more you buy the more you save
>>109070076>a 9070xt with 32gb gddr6nigga aint that literally an r9700???
>>109070044Just borrow a B200 from your nearest datacenter.
anyone here tried sound dampening a pc case on their own? how'd it go? how'd you do it?
just make a fully passive build, silencetard-kun
>>109070180thermal throttling. put the pc in a different room if the fan noise bothers you.
>>109070202but I like when the fan goes whhhhhhh just a little bit
>>109070214ok what about just vibration dampening for HDDs then does that have any downsides
>>109070214Don't listen to this guy, you need eyes on your PC at all times to be sure it doesn't try to pull anything.Here's what you do: watercool it and put the radiators in a different room.
>>109070251but I only have one room
>>109070262run case fans at 30%, undervolt the cpu, get a good and big cpu cooler
>>109070235literally never had an hdd rattle. did you screw it into the case?
>>109070279i have now!
>>109070311there are anti vibration rubber things for hdd screws on aliexpress
waitchads, how's your patience holding up?
>>1090703978GB is lasting another decade. problem, techtuber?
>>109070397I have no money so pretty well.
>>109068547What's the point of GPUs with art on them when you just put them inside of a black metal box anyway?
>>109068547Where would you even get order one of these?
>>109070663no pc case in 2026 is just a black metal box anymore unless it a dell prebuilt.
>>109070672My case is.
>>109070663So bugmen and troons buy them.
cannot fathom giving a fraction of a modicum of a cunt hair of a SHIT about how computer components look
>>109070681doesn't look very aerodynamic
>>109070693nigga it's a rectangle
>>109070708Rectangles aren't very aerodynamic Anon. Your PC will be very sluggish and will use up way too much energy for what it returns
>>109070693Sorry, is this better?
>>109070693If this isn't your PC case you're a hypocrite.
>>109070663Buy something other than a black metal box then? It's not hard.
>>109070895Why would I buy anything other than a black metal box when I'm just going to put the PC in a closet so I don't have to hear any fans?
whats up with modern cases having just like 6 inches of empty dead space between the motherboard and the front of the case
>>109071065I need less.
>>109071065space for big gpus
>>109071065Is it not enough for you?
>>109071065Airflow? Space for CPU cooler towers? GPUs? Components you put into the computer?
>>109071065Just enough space so you can hide bags of cocaine inside your PC.
>>109071109no i worded it oddly i meant it's way too much and it looks like shit>>109071098thats understandable i guess. i dont think ive ever had a really big jeepu before and my current 4070 ive had for like 4 years and its not that big. this design is still uggy wuggy thobeit =w=
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>missed out on the Gigabyte M27UP sale because I took too long to decide if I want itNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
What is it about professional IPS displays that affords them such good viewing angles? I see people complain at how bad axis shift is on gaming monitors like the one above, meanwhile my 2016 BenQ PD series display is basically perfect.
>>109071544
>>109071544>>>/g/sqt anyway it's the way the liquid crystals are aligned>good viewing anglespretty sure this is a hallmark and selling point for all IPS screens not just professional ones, again it's the physical alignment not the manufacturing or material quality
>>109071613>pretty sure this is a hallmark and selling point for all IPS screens not just professional ones,I don't know, I'm looking at the M27UP and in the HUB review at multiple points one thing that immediately jumps out at my is just how DARK that monitor gets even at mild angles, that doesn't happen with the display I'm on right now. It's a very noticeable black shadow. This is a basic problem with LCD displays.
>>109071650>M27UPapparently it's yet another meme version of IPS called SS IPS whatever that means so there's probably some sort of fuckery going on with the crystals idk I can't keep up with this stuff anymore I'm an old man now
>>109071678Apparently my PD2700Q uses something called AHVA IPS, Advanced Hyper-Viewing Angle, developed by AU Optronics. Apparently it's main strength is specifically extremely wide viewing angles and high static contrast.
Why is selecting a router so hard? Why is it so hard to distinguish wifi antennae from the antennae that boost modem signal strength?
>>109071767get anything that says wifi7 on it, it's guaranteed to be good. avoid anything that says less.
>>109071767Don't get anything that says wifi7 on it, it's guaranteed to be bad.
>>109071789I don't care about WiFi much, I care only that it accepts a sim card, can achieve the fastest 4G/LTE speeds, supports an antenna (preferably directional or RP-SMA), and has gigabit ethernet out. I need to point the signal to my nearest cell tower.
>>109071906Oh, and also channel aggregation.
>>109071906>>109071913plug that into claude>>109071877retard
>Told myself I'd get a new case next year because my current case is fine>See a Corsair 7000X for half priceIt's too big and cumbersome but its a good deal given the price.
>>109068547>Midrange: 5070, 9070>High-end: 5070ti, 9070xtwtf
>>109071974The only card worth buying right now (for most people) is the 5070Maybe 9700 or XT but kinda doubt it unless you have a specific use case
>>109071544don't all IPS have the same viewing angles?
>>109071974what about it?I think the midrange recs are bad but whatever. high-end should be mid-range and high-end should just be 5090.
>>109072042High-end is obviously 5080 and 5090.
Continuing from the previous thread concerning my probable purchase of a 4K monitor, what's the word on Z-Edge? Found one that's considerably cheaper at $250 give or take but I never heard of it. A mere $50 less expensive than the Dell brand but the refresh rate is higher. Considering my use case I don't really care for that.https://www.microcenter.com/product/693763/dell-27-plus-s2725qs-27-4k-uhd-(3840-x-2160)-120hz-led-monitorhttps://www.target.com/p/z-edge-28-ips-4k-monitor-ultra-hd-3840-x-2160-hdr10-hdmi-displayport-freesync-support-vesa-mount/-/A-1003804772
>>1090720635080 is barely better than the 5070 Ti
>>109072170>ips
>>1090720635090 are priced like a pro hardware and its getting irrelevantits like putting some 96gb vram gpu that costs 8k € in the OP
>>109072180My budget is $400, but would prefer to not exceed $300 if I can help it. What would OLED due to CRT shaders anyway?>>109072238What would that make a 3060? Medium-low? Only got it because 12GB of VRAM.
Did anyone ever figure out what rtx 50 series has such terrible frametimes and stuttering on so many games? Is it the drivers or architectural defect?
>>1090721718-11% is pretty normal for the past few gens.5080 is about 11% faster than the 5070 Ti.4080 was about 10% faster than the 4070 Ti.3080 was only about 8% faster than the 3070 Ti.There are individual games where the gap will be larger or smaller. But, for the past few gens on aggregate it's about these numbers.
>>109072063My 5070ti was like $100 less than a 5080.
can you teach me how to undervolt my 4070
>>109072266>The 4080 is 1% slower than the 5080Holy fucking cope just admit you're poor
I don't know if this is quite on-topic for PC building, but I got a new monitor and I'm wondering just how much variance between multiple screens is it normal to have?I understand the idea that you can't just copy someone else's calibration because panels are different even in the same model, but this is the first time in my life I had to take something as far as Red hue all the way to 60 (out of 100, default 50) before it stopped looking wrong to me. Which naturally makes me second guess myself. Comparing two different screens with my TV it looks close enough, but it made me wonder if I've just been used to wrong colors all my life and the 50 value that looks pink-ish and oversaturated is actually the correct red.Any thoughts on this? I know there's colorimeters and stuff but those things cost like 4 times as much as the monitor itself over here for some reason, so not really an option.
>>109072271My 5080 was free.I stole it from Amazon.
>>109072282impossible to say without a testing kit
>>109072287Good for you unfortunately karmic justice will be exacted.
>>109072266Normal, but definitely not worth it over the 5070 TiAnd that's not worth it over the 5070 at current pricing
>>109072374The purpose of saying what is or isn't high/medium/low end isn't to say what's worth buying or not. Just that those cards are high end according to general trends and vibes of GPU stratification. My personal recommendation is that there's not really any justification to buy any GPU over $500 right now as there's simply not enough games where it'd make enough of a difference for anyone to care, and the actual visual difference even in games that have all the new fancy graphical settings between a 5080 and a 5060 Ti is pretty minor.
>>109072406I would say if you want to play videogames the order of importance for maximised gaming experience goes as follows:1. Buy a PS52. Buy an OLED TV 4k resolution 3. Buy a budget gaming PC like 5060Then your upgrade order is the following:1. Upgrade to a PS5 Pro2. Upgrade to a high end OLED TV like a LG C53. Then, and only then, upgrade your PC within your budget.I am a PC enthusiast, I am in it for the love of the game.
Replacing the fans on my old pre-built to keep it chugging for a while longer. The front of this thing only has one (1) 120mm fan slot. And when replacing it I found out to my surprise that of that spot, for some reason, it only has two screw holes for some reason. The red circles are just little nubs pointing out. I guess it's better than what people suggest you do to put additional fans, which is to put a fan at the bottom where there's no mount or screw holes, so you just let gravity hold the fan in place. What a piece of crap.
>>109072492consider buying a decent airflow case and replace the internals later
>>109072492>pre-built>a piece of crapy'don't say, hopefully you bought something nice with the money you jewed from this decision
>>109072505This is the best suggestion with this case. Having spent hours pulling it apart and running into more issues like this I realized I should have bought a new case and motherboard to make my life easier. The rear fan also had trouble fitting for some reason and I was unable to completely screw it back in. And I had to take a hair dryer to the old CPU heatsink mount because it was glued on with adhesive just to make it hard as possible to replace parts on this thing. At the end I was surprised it still turned on. My CPU looked like this having not taken off the heat sink for 6 years.
>>109072579If it requires buying a new mobo that makes things difficult right?Buying an old mobo platform just to fit it in a new case is throwing good money after bad.am5 is gonna cost abit with 400€ for 32gb ddr5
>>109070672Mine is black metal and wood.
>>109072598nice BBC(big black case)
>>109072591That was part of my dilemma. The motherboard also has an obscure sound card problem with Linux since it's proprietary garbage: https://forum.manjaro.org/t/very-quiet-audio-fixed-after-suspend/159673Taking off the CPU backplate bracket with the adhesive was ridiculous and took forever going back and forth between nudging the bracket out from the front and then blow drying the adhesive. I'm not putting any more money into this computer after that, I'd be replacing all the parts anyways.
>>109072598looks kinda gay desu
Ran out of money for my build.Can I use semen as thermal paste?
>>109068757Find a flaw. Inb4 reddit says it burns your CPU. No it didn't.
>>109072647sure but it crusts up quicker be sure to change it periodically
>>109072654>Find a flawWiFi, as in it has one
>>109072654whats the difference between the b850 and x870 platform
>>109072654>Find a flawrealtek LAN
>>109072654Chinese spyware.
>>109072747https://www.velocitymicro.com/blog/x870-vs-b850-choosing-the-right-motherboard-for-your-build/
>>109068547kind of amazing how slapping a cartoon depiction of a woman on your GPU ensures both that it will be a wanted "limited edition" item on release, AND become a valuable collectable twenty years later.
>>1090720635080 is not something anybody should be considering buying. it doesn't have enough vram to last longer than the 5070 ti, while barely being stronger than it, for 2x the price.
>>109072170if you're buying it for gaming, don't. stick to 1440 or 1080. I hate my 28" 2160 for gaming.
>>109072262what cpu are they using it with? nvidia drivers have a larger cpu overhead.
>ASUS 5070 Ti PRIME OC>Gigabyte 5070 TI Windforce OC SFF>MSI 5070 Ti Ventus 3X OC>PNY 5070TI OC Triple Fan >Zotac RTX 5070 Ti SOLID SFF>Colorful 5070 Ti iGame Vulcan>Palit 5070 Ti GameRock OC>Gainward 5070 Ti Phantom>Galax 5070 Ti 1-Click OC>Inno3D 5070 Ti iChill X3Is there any difference at all between any of these cards?
>>109072598>wood for computer caseDoesn't fitRetvrn to metal and plastic please.
>>109072850Enthusiast products are for enthusiasts.More casual or budget conscious people should go for something that gives better value for money.
>>109068547Do you really need a PURE SINEWAVE UPS for your gayming PC?I have a 1000w seasonic focus gx-1000 and it does have active PFC, would a simulated sinewave UPS cause any issues/ extra noise/heat?fuck I just want to be able to keep my computer on while I run to the breaker to flip it up when my retarded family tries to use 30amp of power through the 20amp main breaker.
>>109073137I think you might want to fix the breaker first?
>>109073150but its working as it should, preventing retards from burning their houses down by trying to run 10 different power hungry appliances at the same time.
>>109072864they are all the same just different coolers and coil whine. its a lottery which is loudest.
>>109073205Do different boards have different resistors and VRMs? Or is that all based on NVIDA?
>>109073137The answer is it "depends"Mind you the PRIMARY use case of a UPS is literally to keep a PC on. PCs have had active PFC for the better part of 20 years.In general they work just fine. Only in special cases will select PSUs not work correctly in a UPS but it's pretty rare.
>>109073185typically different rooms are behind smaller individual breakers so the main breaker shouldnt be impacted if some kitchen circuit gets too loaded
>>109073251nvidia gives every vendor a "reference design" for their board to follow but any of them can go custom with it and dont have to follow it exactly. thats why crazy shit like 5090 lightning z exists.
>>109073315So there could be a pretty big difference between one board/card to the next. VRMs and and resistors are really important, and if one company cheaps out on them it could kill the whole card.
>>109073315>any of them can go custom with it and dont have to follow it exactlyNo, they need Nvidia approval if they want to do custom shit or Nvidia won't ship them GPUs anymore.
>>109073351techpowerup has teardowns of cards you can look at their boards. should be pretty obvious which ones are good or bad because its missing chokes or just looks cheap in general.
>>109073367IIRC they need Nvidia approval if they want to make custom bios. Custom boards are whatever even chinks do it.
>>109073040enthusiasts are buying 5090s not 5080s. 5080 is the retard's card.
>>109073482yep, even getting a used 4090 is a better option than a 5080
Hi friends, I went through the OP and everything and want to confer with you guys as well if you would.BUDGET: idk around $8k would be the bestCOUNTRY: CzechiaUSE CASE: Gaming (Dota, Stellaris, c2077), local AI inference (gonna be running a ton of agents), model finetuningWould like for it to be reasonably futureproof for if I wanna buy a rtx 6900 in the future or somethingPCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zf6bLyCPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D 4.3 GHz 16-Core Processor ($679.00 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 G2 91.58 CFM CPU Cooler ($159.94 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($494.99 @ Amazon) Memory: Corsair Vengeance 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($1255.00 @ Amazon) Storage: Lexar NQ790 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($290.89 @ MemoryC) Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 8 TB 3.5" 5400 RPM Internal Hard Drive ($258.04 @ Amazon) >need to store my datasetsVideo Card: Asus Turbo Radeon AI PRO R9700 32 GB Video Card ($1469.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: Asus Turbo Radeon AI PRO R9700 32 GB Video Card ($1469.99 @ Newegg)>I will only buy 1x 9700 at first and see how it goes and then buy another one. I put the most effort into picking the gpu out of all the parts.Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 XL ATX Full Tower Case ($219.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME TX-1600 ATX 3.1 1600 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($559.99 @ B&H - OOS) Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14x25 G2 PWM 91.6 CFM 140 mm Fan ($44.95 @ Amazon) Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14x25 G2 PWM 91.6 CFM 140 mm Fan ($44.95 @ Amazon) Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14x25 G2 PWM 91.6 CFM 140 mm Fan ($44.95 @ Amazon) Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14x25 G2 PWM 91.6 CFM 140 mm Fan ($44.95 @ Amazon) Monitor: LG UltraGear OLED 27GS93QE-B 26.5" 2560 x 1440 240 Hz Monitor ($559.79 @ Amazon)>dont really care about the burn in+ another trash vertical monitor for my agentsTotal: $7597.41Thank you for any notes.
I'm still on a gtx1080 and I'm starting to feel the burn with recent games. I do gamedev without issues but i also had a lot of fun with stable diffusion image gen in 2023 but the newer models are too much on 8gb vram.What are the best value picks and is it worth waiting or should I go for it now?
>>109072266>Making shit upIs this a legit bot post?4080 is 29% faster than the 4070ti3080 is 18% faster than the 3070ti
>>109073654wait for zen 6 at the end of the year, don't upgrade now
>>109073654you need a 9950x3d2 and a blackwell 6000.
>>109073655if you honestly do gamedev then unreal and unity both provide specs for each of their default presets for you to target. you just get that or better. always get it sooner rather than later because prices and stock.
>>109072850>>109073040enthusiasm about what? about burning down money like a retard because >muh coinsoom because if I don't consoom how I am going to justify my pitiful existence without a partner or a family and I need to waste my rabbi issued shekels somehowFucking disgusting, this is why the west is in shambles, instead of fighting back, no, just become complacent like little faggots
real enthusiasts are the ones seeking value, buying the most cost effective hardware and modding it for best performance/tempspeople who buy expensive hardware and overclock with ln2 are just soft bitch boy nepobabies
>>109073828>>109073815Enthusiast is what people in the industry call pay pigs, they're the idiots you can milk for thousands just so they can have a 90 card.
For me, its the steam machine. No more big towers.
>>109073909imagine a steam machine form factor but with super efficient 6070 igpu and intel x86 cpuhttps://www.techradar.com/computing/cpu/intel-cpu-with-integrated-nvidia-rtx-gpu-rumored-to-arrive-early-in-2028-and-i-cant-wait-to-see-this-power-up-gaming-laptops-and-handhelds
>>109073909only $1500????
>>109073922This shit will never see the light of day
>>109073925It’ll be $1000>source: trust meWait for June 23rd
>>109073955It will but only in laptops that cost $1k+, everything below will use Intel's 2 core Xe igpu.
>>109073925Most expensive parts will be the ram and SSD, it's literally using a mobile AMD APU like the 7045(?) I think it's called.
>>109073987itd be so much better if they had fsr4 gpu
>>109073987It can’t be cheaper than steam deck which is already 900
>>109073991Fsr4 is coming to rdna3, which is the steam machine’s gpu, this summer.
Why does the 5080 cause so much seethe?
think about what a shit deal steam machine is nowyou're paying >50% ram and ssd for the total price of the system, and you get a fsr3 gpu that costs 10% of the ram
>>109073959grotesquely expensive but valvedrones will buy it and pretend it's good
How do a download more RAM?
>>109074023ZRam
>>109074000It's almost double the price of 5070ti msrp for 10% faster. 68fps to 75fps is not worth paying a used car for.
>>109074032>999 is double of 749???
>>109074036People were getting 5070tis at Walmart and Microcenter and Best Buy for as low as $600. 5080 today is $1300 minimum for the shittiest model.
the bigger question is what prompted someone to talk about 5080 to begin withwho cares
>>109073995people already got it working on linux when fsr4 first came out.it was pretty mediocre, but maybe if they made a new model just for rdna 3, that might be interesting? But I feel like if they did that, I would expect they would also release something new for fp8 as well.*Oh, it seems like FSR 4 int8 works on nvidia on windows through optiscaler and a leaked DLL, 6 months ago.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b3caq7YYtk
>>109074036Where are you finding 5080s for $999?
>>109074038>People were getting 5070tis at Walmart and Microcenter and Best Buy for as low as $600Really? Have any links or pictures of the old sales?I did a quick search and couldn't find any mention of stuff like that on microcenter. But that kind of thing isn't tracked very much.
>>109073987yes but its an F variant of that APU that had failed graphical validation, the cheapest Zen4 part AMD could sell to Valve.the GPU is Navi 33 because AMD made a bunch for laptops and no laptop manufacturers bought them.
>>109074053
how bad are scythe fans
>>109074083they're fine
>>109074062>PNY>open boxI guess that's fair.I paid $700 for my 5070ti in December of last year. Got lucky.
>>109074086how come people dont rec them?
9850X3D or worthless over 9800X3D?
the intel thing with nvidia igpus is actually so terrible for us, they'll make laptop that suck on linux because of it, I hope they won't stop R&D on their own igpus because of it, intel igpus are amazing for homeservers>>109074097not a big company and they are japanese and don't pay for marketing in the west
>>1090741069950x3d2 or bust.
>>109074113Now that is too much
>>109074106wait for next gen cpus with 24 cores
>>109074117no please. just buy it. then post ur cinebench scores.
we're 5 months away from zen 6, buying a new pc right now is stupid unless you're forced to
>>109072063We have a lot of AMD poorfags here anon. Let them cope
>>109074137If you can't generate enough disposable income, like what $2500, to build a mid range gaming PC in 5 months then you have no right to talk this kind of shit on 4chan.
>>109074143you are also poor THO?
>>109074145shut up nigger, you fool no one
>>109074038>>109074046You said MSRP retard.
I got my 5080 for $920 during black friday. :)
>>109074137It's probably going to be hyper expensiveX3D CPUs won't be there for another 6+ months and also easy $600 for being generous +3% performance over 9800X3D because the full focus on zen 6 will be "HOW MUCH SLOP/MINUTE IT CAN DO??!?!?!" and everything nonAI slop related being an afterthought.
>>109074164Not even the guy you're replying to, but you're the retard here.>It's almost double the price of 5070ti msrp for 10% faster.This is saying "It's [the 5080] is NOW double the MSRP price of the 5070 Ti (750$)."
>>109074172zen 6 is a big leap, 6.5ghz clocks, higher ipc, new memory controller, more cores, I'd wait, but I'm waiting for zen 7 tho and not building a new pc anytime soon
>>109074173>Comparing one card's current price to another's MSRP.What sense does that make?
>>109074183not for gaming since to even find cpu bottleneck scenarios you need poorly coded games on a 5090but sure for productivity zen 6 is big
>>109074143>5090what's wrong? couldn't afford the 6000?
>>109074192I think zen 7 is the gaming upgrade, because 3d vcache is going to go to 96mb from 64mb, first upgrade since zen 3
>>109074190You really shouldn't be confused by something this simple.
>>109074200yeah but base cache is increasing for both Zen6 and Zen7
>>109074200hard to evaluate how much the cache amount impacts gaming
>5070Ti is currently $900https://www.microcenter.com/product/690049/asus-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-prime-triple-fan-16gb-gddr7-pcie-50-graphics-card>5080 is $1050https://www.microcenter.com/product/693474/asus-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-rog-astral-overclocked-triple-fan-16gb-gddr7-pcie-50-graphics-card-(refurbished)>This is double the price.>This is not worth it (Literally a 15% increase in price for 15% more performance.)What in the fuck are you niggas talking about?
>>109074206the X3D already shows it gives the architecture room to breathe because it over-rides the memory bottleneck
>He's ''buying'' ZEN 7 or DDR6 in 2026, 2027 or even 2028 when the prices are 1200% up
>>109074210we dont know how the mb amounts and fps correlate
>>109074212Consumer CPUs don't get hogged by the technocrats like RAM chips or NAND controllers.They are actually genunenly worthless for themThe problem is the more efficent productions get the less "failed discards" to be used for consumer CPU comes out
I am worried my Ryzen 7600X will not do in 2027 lads
>>109074239better buy zen 6 cpu with 24 cores and 200mb L3 cache
>>109074212Zen 7 is on AM5, AM6 is not out until 2030
>>109074209>new vs refurbished I'm sorry, you might actually have brain damage.
>>109074172The X3D zen6 will release day1 because they know it will be 90% of the lineup salesThey would be retarded for not having it on release
>>109074262thats the reason they release non x3d stuff, so people who want the cheap stuff without x3d pay premium
>>109074252$1250 still isn't double $900.
>>1090736555060ti if you need the cheapest 16gb vram if you like ai models, 5070 for games (only 12gb vram), 5070ti being better than both (more performance and has 16gb vram). Any of them will be an upgrade to your 1080 (performance and vram wise).
>>109074283Yup, you have genuine brain damage.It was double 750$, which is the MSRP of the 5070 Ti.And you are clearly are confused by simple worlds like "almost".
>>109074231>>109074244ZEN 7 will still be like 1k-2k
>>109074328whats wrong with you
How long till amd puts out a lunar lake/nova lake equivalent for battery life for laptops?
>>109072272https://github.com/christianp403-spec/NV-UV
>>109074262my prediction on the lineup8core 1CCD12core 1CCD12core 1CCD X3D16core 2CCD24core 2CCD X3D
>>109073655just trying to mention the obvious. I think you can use more vram than you GPU has since you can offload some of the memory onto your system ram.But I don't generate images, so I don't know if that's set up automatically or if you can't deal with how slow it is.in 1 year or 2, they will release the super nvidia GPU's, which should have more vram, but you will pay for every gigabyte if it releases before ram prices become more normal (realistically 2 years).Is it worth waiting? Not really. If you aren't making NSFW there is no reason to not use cloud compute (maybe even going with the closed source models even).
>>109074328>WasSo not any more?
How bad is the pruple glow on qd-oleds? it seems the only dolby vision supporting monitors are qd-oled models...... I have a lot of dovi 4k blu-ray remuxs / encodes and I don't have space for a legit TV.Are any of those mini-leds monitors announced at computex going to be good?
>>109074446you only see it in bright rooms, but you should avoiding oled anyway in those environments
>>109074446Like that anon said you only see shit like that when watching with bright light on, but if you work during the day and watch in the evening you'll be good.
>>109074446There's a new coating for the current and next gen QD OLEDs that addresses that issue.
>>109074431There will also be 10core 1CCD and 20core 2CCD models according to leaks
>>109074446Kinda badThe surface material is also ultra reflective and makes white peripherals (if any) show up like the sun when viewing dark contentThankfully this issue is fixed on the the newest 4th and 5th gen qdoleds
>>109074688I don't see the point in a 10 core, there's an argument for a 20 core
>>109074717It's a cope product for them to brand as a Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 7 when novalake inevitably embarrasses them in core/$
>>1090741966 gives me bad vibes
>building a 4.2ghz overlocked broadwell system>plan on de-liding it and applying honeywell to the core and crystal well diesneed recommendations for a single tower air cooler
>>109074687>>109074680>>109074521I guess I'll go with a PG32UCDM3 then. I'll see if I can find a good deal on an open-box one or some other used one. It's just going to be my side monitor and my main movie watching monitor.
>be poor>ancient pc with gtx 960, i7 4790k, some old asus motherboard>gpu just died on meWhat do I do now? Consider the first two letters of my post
>>109075168https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GWpzK8/thermalright-burst-assassin-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ba120
>>109075265you could cange them to 'not'
>>109075265how poor, and which country?
>>109075265buy a an entry level 50xx gpu on klarna
>>109075177please be AI
I know Samsung magician has an over provisioning feature. Doesn't SanDisk have something similar in their dashboard or is it unnecessary anyway?
>>109075265Get an RX6600 for low low price of 300 kangaroos.
>>109075265Do online market research for money, like paid surveys, offerwalls for casinos etc, You can make a couple hundred dollars fairly quickly.
>>109075452Drives tend to have 10% of the drive already overprivisioned
So which noctua fans do i buy for my matx setup??The black ones not the ugly jeet browns
Best 360mm copper radiator?
>>109075727what size? A12X25 G2 are their current fans in black
are these any good? i can get 5 of them for the price of a single G2 noctua
>>109075989noctuas pricing isnt really relevant to compare other parts to they're a luxury brand for people who dont care about value
was looking at recent linux benchmarks on youtube, there's usually a point when a new amd card starts to get better on linux than it is on windows and rdna4 is finally there for raster already, getting more fps on linux than on windows, but raytracing is still lagging behind
>>109075989yes, they are decent enough. If youre not autistic.
the answer is rx 580 or rx 5700 xt
>>109075989They are alright at <800RPM but higher than that and they become loud.Those fuckers will also give you a heart attack each time you reboot your system because they are 3000RPM.PST version is nice because you can chain them together.
>>109076014for>>109075265
>>109075989I got myself A14x25 G2. Manual is confusing with the gasket and pads, fans only have like 20 cm cable and then a connector for extensions that can be in the way. Delivery content has a 30cm extension cable with all cables having some protective wrap. The fact that they charge 35 bucks and you cannot even daisy chain is ridiculous even though they are nice once you have them installed. If you want premium Asus proart has 120mm fans that are pretty good.
just ordered this case, was like 35 bucks
>>109075989I've just noticed Arctic made LN version of those fans, lower minimum and max RPM compared to normal PRO fans. At least in my country those are even cheaper, 25€ for a 5 pack.
I have the opportunity to get an RX 9070 for $500. Good deal?
>>109076236yeah its basically a 9070xt after 5 minutes of software reboots.
>>109076179oh yeah I didn't notice those, neato! costs about the same as the regular ones here but still seems like a good deal
noctua have nothing going for them anymore except brand recognition
things just keep getting sadderi just hope none of my tech breaks or i'm fucked
>pc started making weird clicking noiseIt might be over for me fellas
>>109076383its probably a fan
>>109076383it's probably the mouse
>>109074446>How bad is the pruple glow on qd-oleds?It's awful. I don't know anyone stands it. My room's bright I had to send it back. I still wait for RGB stripe because 1440p has terrible fringing too
>>109075265get a job start making money broke boy
>>109075989loud crap
>>109076383it's probably the metronome
>lost $20 while refunding something due to exchange rate shenanigans>see another thing I bought a month ago is now $20 cheaper
>>109076432>due to exchange rate shenanigansjust move to a real country bro
>>109075265buy a used 960. They are like 10-40 bucks on ebay. Or get something equivalent.
>>109075822>A12X25 G2Im going NH-U12 so i need 3 bottom intakes and 1 rear and 2 top exhausts
>>109075822>>109076539Also if possible. I would like to know more about Scythe Air Coolers and their fans.
first time building so this might be a retarded question but those this support only four sata-whatevers, disc drives hdds etc?
>>109076600One of those 6 pin cables usually has three or four SATA power connectors
5090 astrals start at 5.8k in my cuntits actually over
>>109076632ah okok thanks!
God shopping for monitors sucks ass. Even with a bunch of research and knowing the majority of the technical specs, you're still just plain fucked because not everything is listed and manufacturers just pull random bullshit on you.My Dell S2721DGF shit itself and I'd be perfectly happy with a 1:1 replacement or a modern version of it, but they don't sell it anymore. They have some Alienware stuff that's 95% the same in terms of specs, but then every reviewer points out they cheaped out on the panel this gen and it's a straight downgrade for 25%+ money. Outside of going to phyiscal stores and inspecting powered units what the fuck are you supposed to do?>>109076600No, because most sata cables are daisy-chain cables that can support 3/4 devices. SATA itself has a max power draw of 54 watts and your typical 3.5" drive is not pulling that; moderate 750w units like your picrel should comfortably run 10+ SATA devices and realistically more like 20. The real issue is SATA headers on your mobo at that point.
>>109076648>The real issue is SATA headers on your mobo at that point.I've got 6 of those but I've planned around having just 6, I was mostly worried that I won't be able to power even those
>>109076648Just buy a lg c series or Sony a90k and be done with it
>>109076656Something I left out is that you can check how much power those SATA connectors combined are allowed to pull off the rail in the technical specs of the PSU. I have a 750W unit that is rated to pull 110W off the 5V rail for SATA. You can then take that maximum and look up technical specs of the SATA devices you're using and what their typical/max draw is and do some math to work out if you're golden.
>>109076663>$1500 monitor to replace a $300 one.Wow thanks anon.
>>109075989The Arctic Pros are pretty good.
any reason air coolers got removed from the op? i tought they performed fine for 90% of users while being cheaper and more reliable
>>109076778Because the only worthwhile advice is "don't buy the cheapes chink shit" opther than that pretty much any within your TDP just werks
>>109076778Probably schizo vandalism where some faggot has a rage boner for air coolers and no one bothered to add air coolers back to the OP.
>>109076778another seething OP probably, air coolers are still fine
>>109076778AMD officially recommends liquid coolers for X3D CPUs and 90% of people in these threads have or opt for that CPU.
>>109076675Yes you pay for quality once rather than buy dogshit multiple times.
>>109076462I live in a real country and I want to leave.
I feel like the only people bitching about PA120 being "cheap chinese shit" are Noctua fanboys that are having buyer's remorse over the PA120 outclassing the NH-D15 in performance for a fraction of the price so they have to default to the age old cope of "cheap Chinese shit" or "stop being poor" to justify them overspending on a cooler that was likely manufactured in the same factory in Shenzhen despite their constant circlejerk about "superior Austrian quality".
>>109076675You can get a lg c series for less than $1000
>>109076854Everybody over here is just mad they can't get deepcool.
Niggas will always cheap out on the component they will be looking at all the time and waste it on retarded shit like noctua
>>109076876I got an LG IPS cuz am poorfag but it's not half-bad, my first HRR 1440p screen so now I'm fucked and will have to get nothing but 1440p HRR screens from now on.
>>109076923>HRRDo you mean HDR? Cos if so thats not real HDR on an IPS.
>>109076928HRR, high refresh rate.
>>109076876Nigga sounds based
I'm building a Gabecube using ITX parts, what are some cube cases?
Hey guys, can you please tell me if im just being a consoooomerist retard or what? I dont really play PC games but want to get into it in my spare time instead of doomscrolling. Compared to the people here i am pretty nooby in computer knowledge as i havent really kept up to date. Seeing price increases is making me think I either build one now or become eternally priced out.I last built a PC 15y ago. I've asked in the other thread whether the RTX 5090 will be good enough for running local models and they let me know that currently its not best value or something. Here is a build ive been looking at, it seems in budget (4-5K GBP, UK) but it is preowned. I would rather build myself for fun but only if its good value. Again, idk if i need all this power.GPU - GeForce RTX 5090 Founders EditionCPU - AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8-Core ProcessorMB - ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR X870E HERORAM - G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO 64GB 6000MHz CL30 DDR5 Memory - AMD ExpoPSU - ASUS ROG THOR 1000W PSU 80+ Platinum II OLEDSSD - Samsung 990 PRO NVMe M.2 2TB SSDCASE - Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X Digital Midi Tower Glass Gaming Case - BlackCOOLER - ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 ARGB Extreme AIO Liquid Cooler3 X Lian Li UNI FAN TL LCD 1201 X Lian Li UNI FAN SL-INF 140 RGB3 X 120mm ARGB PC Case Fan with Infinity MirrorWhat do you all think?
>>109077185there are several Youtube videos on DIY steam machines, just pick your poison.
>>109077279>AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8-Core ProcessorWhy would you waste $5000 on a 5090 and not at least get a 9850X3D, or a 9950X3D? Even more so if you plan to do workload related shit. You want more cores in your CPU. And 16 GB is enough for local models. You really don't need a 5090. Get a 5070Ti or 5080 (bad choice).
>>109077279>What do you all think?reddit tier bait or you're severly retarded, considering you're using GBP I'm leaning towards the latter
>>109077279Do you train or fine-tuning models? If not go for AMD r9700, I can get 3 of them for a single 5090 here in Canada
>>109075177This place looks depressing and claustrophobic, zero windows, zero sun, sensory overload, eye strain. It's a nightmare and it creeps me out.
>>109074446is there anything not wrong with OLEDs besides motion clarity? lmao.
>>109075265used, or 8GB 9060xt, 5060, 5060ti.
>>109077185Deepcool Ch170 not available in the US, quite a bit bigger than the steam cube at almost 20L.Jonsbo nv10, limited to single slot low profile cards and also needs a flex psu which can be loud but this one is a lot closer to steam cube size.Velka 7 can fit upto a 5080 founders edition, uses standard sfx power supply. Smallest of the three at 5L but also most expensive and needs a riser cable.If i had to pick one i would get the deepcool because it can fit tower air coolers like the big noctua’s so you dont lose out on any cooling and it can also fit the most sizes of gpus. I would avoid the other two cos they are expensive and also require riser cables for the gpu which can be a pain in the ass to live with.
This is my current build put together back in 2023.Ryzen 5 5500Gigabyte B450M Redragon Tyr 120mm2x DDR4 XPG Gammix D10GTX 1650 EXThermaltake Smart Series 500W 80 Plus WhiteMontech X2 MESHI've been wanting to get a new gpu for a while now, the goal is to run witcher 4, will it be enough or is there something else i should upgrade ? budget is not an issue
>>109077607500w psu might be an issue if you upgrade to a beefy gpu
>>109077586Thanks a lot, the Deepcool is actually available here and is quite affordable, though it still looks a bit quite tall for the cube. I kinda plan out on using low power parts so as not to get too hot, probably gonna try something else smaller and more affordable than the Velka.
>>109077651If you don’t need a big gpu you could also check out the jonsbo t6, its almost half the size of the ch170 at 11L, all standard parts no riser cables or flex psu but the gpu length is limited to 215mm so 9060xt/5060ti 16gb max. Check out https://caseend.com/ and just sort by ascending volume and filter for vertical and sfx psu/no riser.
>>109077682Actually dont filter by no riser cos it fucks up and only shows like 3 cases
>>109077682Holy shit I got a 9060XT reaper which is right at 200mm size, though that case will put quite a dent to my wallet, but it's the ITX tax so eh.
>>109077709Yeah jonsbo prices are kinda high but not the worst for itx. I like this case cos you can set the handles in the front to use as a headphone stand type thing. Also the case is pretty much traditional layout so easy to build in as well.
>>109077607you should wait for witcher 4 to release, or at the very least the super refresh and next-gen amd.
>>109077607>something else i should upgradeLike basically everything. If you keep the ddr4 you might as well move to lga 1700, an i5 or i7 + motherboard is still going to be cheaper than what's still usable on am4
>>109077698I fucking hate that nobody labels shit correctly so filters don't work on any of these websites.
>got a 9070 XT for $500 USD>still another TWNETY DAYS until it shipsI want to BUILD already. I have all the other parts for the PC, this is just taking forever to get here.
>>109077725Thanks fren, this case look ideal, not a big fan of wooden case because it's humid as shit here, but the size is pretty good.
>>109077758>>109077767Yeah, i guess a full new build is the better way, cheers lads
>>109077835>TWNETY DAYS until it ships
>>109076778>Jet engine noises in youre path>throttles as soon as the processor actually has to do something in youre path
>>109077279The hero has the shitty q release slim and if you don't get the revision it can chip your PCIe socket of the GPU. The ryujin 3 extreme requires either armory crate or aida64 in the background to show something but otherwise it's ok.
Can this retard stop spamming the squidward gif it's sad for this stupid underaged cunt
>>109078231I think it's the same nigger posting jaks and frogs and other unfunny memesReeks of underage
>>109078231
so uhh is my psu ok? https://files.catbox.moe/x7i6ra.mp4
5800X3D Anniversary edition comes with carbon nanotubes
Hey guys. I need to get 32 more GB of ram. I keep running out between using Unity and my browser. I got 2x16 dd5 right now. Which ones would do best for me? The corsair vengeance seems to be everywhere. Im surprised they're a good brand.
>>109078301forgot this is my current spec
>>109078300They're telling you that you're going to be stuck on AM4 forever, and to get used to it.
>>109078267this nigga be laughin like squidward irl over these posts fr fr
>>109078301>>109078336nvm. ended up going with this
>>109078413BruhYou could buy a whole ass car for that
>>109077835If it makes you feel better, I bought my GPU (5070 ti) Feb 28th this year and only got around to building the PC like mid April.
>>109078429yeah Im switching to getting the 2x16gb instead.
>>109077279>Guys I am new to computers>Is this good?>Proceeds to list the highest spec PC possible you could buyDrown yourself please.
>>109078286I'm afraid your PSU might be retarded.
>>109078502is this the coil whine thing or something more serious?
>>109078300which are worse than ptm7950
>>109078388You do not need more anyway.
5800x3d anniversary edition review should be here next week, I wonder if they'll be a tiny bit better than the old version
>>109078517It's either coil whine or some other part is getting loose and started resonating.
>>109078572My tinfoil hat hypothesis.The new version runs ever hotter, this is why they had to use space-tech to cool it down.
>>109078413> CL40
>>109078706>>109078706>>109078706
>>109077279> Not enough storage.You need more storage. A lot more storage.And more CPU cores unless you like to waste half your life waiting for shaders to compile and games to install.
