Slop editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://consoomer-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Journal:https://iemgazette.pages.dev/>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>Measurements:https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/measurement-databases/>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim Zero Ultima DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Sony IER-EX15C (Warm/Dark) - $30• Etymotic ER2XR (Towards Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) - $18• TRN Black Pearl (10-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>109044415
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My sony TWS earbuds (WF-1000XM6) sound better than every IEM I've tried. I've tried cheap chinese ones and also tried crinear reference.
Anyone have any recommendations for workout bt earbuds that wrap around the back of the ear? The junk ones at Best buy or staples I buy never lastOr even USBC wired ones. Batteries suck
>>109075953Why is kunten so good bros?
>>109076150>I've tried cheap chinese ones and also tried crinear referenceSo you've only tried shit
>>109076291Cuz it's EDC Pro with a fancier shell
I've used many bullet type iems over the years (both dangling cable and over the ear cable as well)I got some wankers a year ago and it sounds different to what I'm used to for years. I've tried many different EQ's as well but I'm not 100% satisfied. They somewhat sound better closer to the max volume.My question is: Is this difference mainly caused by the plastic housing (I've mostly used metal ones) or the shape of its autistic chamber yknow its not a bullet iem. Just need a little info before I look for something new maybe soon.
Is the Yoton MP3 any good? I lost my other MP3, and this 1 is on sale for $18.89.Thanks.https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Storage-Independent-Control-Headphones/dp/B0CTQS482P?th=1&psc=1
sony ier-ex15c are my endgame
>>109077206
>chink pos delivered>it has audio imbalance between the units>AGAINI think I'll stick to buying Japanese brands.
I asked the robot what audio equipment is used in tournaments, and it thinks it's the Shure SE846, since there's no chance I'm spending $1,000 on some IEMs I asked it what a poorfag could buy instead and it recommended these.I'm fine with spending $100 if the Truthear Hexa are getting 99% of the way there, but the kiwi ears look pretty close too and they're only $30.so what does /iemg/ recommend?also, I don't have a DAC or anything else either.
>>109077751dude, they use EDC Pros and GK Kuntens
low shelfhigh shelfboom I'm now an EQ expert
>>109077864Oversimplification.
>>109077402buy final audio
>>109077889>entire harman research is based on shelves and they sold billions in headphones due to their researchnice try, basement scientist
>>109077912low shelf +10dBhigh shelf -5dB
>>109077912I already have the Final Audio Make4. Perfect for home use, though I wanted something lighter for outside use, as they're quite heavy. I intended to buy the E4000 while I was in japan last month, but they were out of stock everywhere at Bic Camera and Sofmap. I thought of grabbing cheapo pair of e1000 or e2000 or whatever, but it's not like I would have saved much money. I also tried some of their TWS at Bic (I love how you can try various models), they did sound gud, but their battery life is subpar so that's a big no.Overall, I like Final Audio's signature. I probably wouldn't like the E500 you posted though.
Chatgptzo...
>>109076239Bump for ipx rated or active focused.Or is this general the most sensitive to moisture.
>>109075953Recommend me a DAP for my Koss A/550's. I miss my iPod classic...
>>109077963hi schizo.
>>109078175you shouldn't race mix techs. keep the pmp american too, so just buy a used ipod on ebay, slap an ssd mod, and rockbox it
>>109077846where'd you hear that?
>>109076291If it's so good then why did they revise it.
why is epz g10 so good, bros?
>>109079011you're the only one saying that.
>>109079011It's not, it's retarded and obsoleted by fox iem
>>109079083you're the only one saying that
I got the TANGZU Wan'er S.G II a while ago and suddenly the left one stopped working.I know it's not cable damage because both connectors work fine in the right monitor.All I can surmise is that somehow something broke in the monitor itself, but I can't tell what broke or how it did.Anything else I can try before buying a replacement?If I do have to buy one, is there one less likely to break in a similar price range?
>>109079235Read and watch every single review about it, then decide if you still want to buy it again.
>>109079574>2026>reviewLol
>>109079585Knew you'd bite. Next, you'll say, "what's the consensus on having 0 iems?"
>>109079611Reviewers universally condemn having 0 IEMs.
>>109079235>>109079585samefag
>>109079618looks like you agree with them on something. funny how you make that work for yourself.
>>109079633Wrong. Imagining that you own an IEM is much better than actually owning one.
>>109079644aaaand you're talking in circles again. making shit up again. picking the dumbest fights again.piss off, lady. people are allowed normalcy without you interjecting with your oblique statements and bait posts.
>>109079656What's the consensus on fighting dumb people?
>>109077027>the shape of the autistic chambersomething like that. bigger shit, more room for filters/dampers. with that design the shape of the chamber itself doesn't autistically matter as much as what you can fit inside of it. i think.
>>109079668What's the consensus on talking to yourself and creaming for arguments on 4chan?
>>109079682Several peer reviewed studies approve this.
>>109079695That absolutely cannot be said about transgenderism. Maybe that's why you're so uptight and violent. Whew. I accept your concession
>>109079722And there it is. You care more about causing chaos and talking the most asinine bullshit, then actually contributing anything. Congratulations, keep reminding /iemg/ your place in the world. Contained :)
>and>aaand>aaaaandChange your chatbot bro.
>>109079739Keep proving my point, sis. You out yourself every time.
>>109079755Your point was real in your mind.
>>109079763Like larping as the opposite gender is valid in 2026?You're out of touch. Find another board to shit up entirely, this ain't the hobby for you
>>109079779More valid than larping as an owner of an IEM. Now it's time to post your entire collection:
>>109079790>doesn't post>"anon has nothing">posts everything>"actual mental illness"you gotta expand your vocabulary/think outside of yourself for once. you don't come off as stable at any point you set this very situation up for yourself, seriously. the sick part is, it actually fuels your mental illness. what a horrid existence you've conditioned for yourself
>>109079826Thanks for posting your entire (0 IEMs) collection.
>>109079833you're so dense and childlike, it's amazing.
>>109076150in what ways are they better than reference exactly?
>>109079844I've never called everything you own (0 IEMs) mental illness, you must have confused yourself with someone that owns IEMs.
>>109075970True.
>>109077027>Is this differencewhat difference? just difference is a bit broad but the broad answer will be it is "caused" by different sound signature. with in ears there a lot factors that would influence it outside of drivers themselves - insertion depth, seal, your ear anatomy, ear canal length and geometry etc
>>109077751pretty much any neutral-ish piece of shit will suffice. it's hard to predict on individual level tho.hexa is fine but belle is also fine, gate will be fine, cadenza 1/2 fine, chu2, wankers etc. even as other anon said EDC pro (assuming it's not too different from measurements we have) will be fine maybe a bit too bassy. But you can always EQ.>also, I don't have a DAC or anything else either.something kind of dac (like apple dongle) would probably be needed cause motherboard audio can be fucky with IEMs cause of impedance
>>109079857No BAs.
>>109079585after spending two and a half years here on /iemg/ and being baited multiple times I've concluded that reviews aren't that bad, in fact they're the most reliable way to find out which pos will actually sound good to me, accompanied by graphs+EQ and sound demos, in this particular order/iemg/'s advices are chatgpt-tier, not helpful at all, the only difference being chatgpt recommending literally random shit and /iemg/ recommending mediocre shit or any 1DD + EQ
>>109080068..no I meant in what way do they sound better
>>109080102>any 1DD + EQliterally faggot what kind of shit did reviews recommend you that is better than 1DD+EQ?
kind of curious how it's always the left earpiece that dies first. i mean, i've personally never had any of my pos just die randomly, but the left one always had the tighter 2 pin or mmcx socket (my fitears and nuforce didnt really have that problem though).
>>109077027If you feel like you need more volume you need to make tuning more V-shaped. That's how most bullets are tuned.
>>109080195you really are wound too tight for this, but let's be realistic. what convinced you to buy a hybrid iem? You literally tell everyone, "BA pos, avoid", and you own one.
How's the Aune M1p?
why does /iemg/ hate them?
>>109080361even stranger, why did foxzo buy a BA pos AFTER their 1DDs?really makes you wonder why they start so much shit in here with everybody
Using picrel for almost 2 years now and it's been serving very well for my weebshit and gaming purposes. No EQ even.So... when am I supposed to upgrade? What even is a real upgrade to this?
>>109080380>am I supposed to upgrade?Not at all.
>>109080361Sensitive to the ear's acoustic impedance(more than other driver types), high-order distortion, compression. Audiophiles begrudgingly kicked that shit out of the bass range after it became too obvious they suck at it, but they're just as fucked up in the midrange, peeps just aren't ready to acknowledge that yet.
>>109080436Is all of that due to the fact that 1BA IEMs are nearly impossible to create? (Yes, I know about ERx series but you need to put them near the eardrum to sound right).So when you mix many of them, maybe you can never EQ them right?Anyway, I'm a sciencelet and I don't know what i'm talking about but maybe someone can explain.>>109080375maybe he just wanted a change...
>>109080380Upgrade from weeb box art to weeb faceplates.
>>109080472>maybe he just wanted a change...any mildly reasonable person would wholeheartedly agree. the point is they bought the very type of iem they claim to avoid. the icing on the cake is that it happens to be their most expensive iem and they never praise it, only managing to push, "1DD+EQ" instead as cope.it's the mindfuck of it all that /iemg/ shouldn't ever have to put up with anymore
>>109080380>So... when am I supposed to upgrade?"He who has never seen a river looks at a pond and thinks it's the ocean."Buy something new to see what you're missing. Try a totally different tuning. See if your ears can pick up differences. Everyone's ear canal is different.The whole point of this hobby is to try as many things as you can so you can develop taste and so you can come closer to that perfect pair.
>>109080472There are shallow fit 1BAs, kbear neon, flo bluelover, aful magicone, warbler prelude(giant scam). You can enjoy its warbly bass for a reasonable price.>>109080351>>109080375>>109080498This retard genuinely believes foxzo only has 2 IEMs, can't make this shit up.
>>109080534>This retard genuinely believes foxzo only has 2 IEMs, can't make this shit up.i've only seen him post 1 pair. he has two???
>>109080534and he thinks everyone who replies is the same one person
>>109080534>bluelover*lily
>>109080534>believes foxzo only has 2 IEMsThat was never stated by anybody, ever. All of /iemg/ is aware of your small handful of EPZ custom shits. lying AND obfuscating will NOT help your case lol. In fact, you're the only one here with custom EPZs. quite literally. tsk, tsk, tskGo ahead, scramble some shit up some more, you've dug your hole this deep so far, I'm genuinely interested in how far your cope goes.
>>109080549Maybe even 3.
>>109080567never denied he believes it btw
>>109080585>"That was never stated by anybody, ever."you see how much of a lying sack of fox shit you are?begone, deaf shizo, your got your ass handed to you, no matter how irate you get.
>>109080609you can believe something without stating it, a soulless automaton without inner monologue wouldn't know
>>109080619I accepted your concession so hard today, I'm hard. Nothing personnel, Ms. Wang, but /iemg always deserved better.
>>109080571is that you, crimea-kun? how's the weather?
>>109080646still haven't denied he believes it btw. a strange hill to die on. that's why nobody ever seriously replies to your fanfiction.
>>109080700>that's why nobody ever seriously replies to your fanfiction.>fanfiction>fictionsorry you feel this way. feel free to talk about iems and get back on track once you settle down. someone like yourself could cause their own cancer chasing dopamine hits of shitposting and ending up with cortisol spikes instead.
>>109080700>anon didn't cater to my needs, therefore I win.lol
>>109080392I keep waiting for this thing to die so I'm forced to upgrade (or get a second Gate), but it is still holding strong.>>109080475>>109080512Well, I'm open to suggestions.
>>109080753denying it would mean you asked "why he bought ba after dd" 3 times for absolutely no reason. so I know you can't deny it. everyone knows. you must keep maintaining that facade to not lose face.
>>109080877>it is still holding strong.Then you really have nothing to worry about. Unless you know what you want *more* of, you would then have to do tons more research before making the purchase. No matter how many price tiers higher than Gate another 1DD would be, that doesn't mean the difference in technical improvement is guaranteed to be noticeable. The jump in technical ability over your Gates could be marginal at best and barely noticeable at worst. Good luck on your search and don't forget to read and watch every single review in existence of what piques your interest. That is imperative. Also, only blind buy if you know you can easily return and exchange for something else.
>>109080885blah blah blah so take a midol or something.
>buy a custom IEM as his first IEM >buy a more expensive custom IEM for no reason whatsoever >don't use itWhen I'm in a foxzo glazing competition and my opponent is chatgpt schizo.
>>109080940Don't let this stuff fester and grow. Nip it in the bud
>>109080940If I couldn't afford even one IEM and saw shit like this I would kill myself.
best iem for Billie Eilish?
My most used IEMs mid-2026:>EPZ Q1 Pro>Etymotic ER2XR>Tangzu x Azla Noirblanc >Tanchjim Bunny>EPZ P40
>>109081472>no edc prokek wasted lots of money
>>109081513Not super comfortable.
>>109081472Why is the EPZ Q1 Pro so good, bro?
>>109080213Don't they have a guarantee?Or do they break just after the twelve months that a guarantee would cover.
have some soundshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnsvhczQtGE
>>109081600What do you think of the new BoC album?
>>109081600I only listen to real musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw0-GZCE7Q0
I just use some KZ and enjoy music
>>109080361I absolutely LOVE them! They're absolute technical MONSTERS and possess Driver Quality! Every detail is fast, snappy and articulate on them! But the best thing about them is the BA Timbre, which I adore!
>>109082765gay
I got the FiiO M21 DAP...please tell me I didn't fuckup...
>>109083122You have been fiio'd. It's over.
>>109083216What's wrong with fiio...
>>109083122get the ibasso dx180
>>109083238what's so good about ibasso? it's at a higher price point with the same specs as the m21. can people even tell the difference between 2 and 4 DAC chips?
AAAAAIIIEEEEEEEEE how do we recover from this?
Hello, newfag here. I may have damaged my Moondrop Chu 2 cable. Can /iemg/ recommend some similar IEMs or better? Similar pricing, also hopefully with a thick as fuck rugged cable. Weebshit brand would be nice too of course
>>109083628why not just get a replacement cable...
>>109083628The cable on the kiwi ears cadenza 2 is ridiculous, it's actually thick, the iem sucks tho, just get a tripowin replacement cable for your chu
>>109083122i like fiio daps. they seem to be trying to minimize editorialization. no particular house sound.imo sources should be like mirrors and coloration should live in what is expressed in it (iems) and not in what expresses it
>>109083757this sounds convoluted. "coloration should live in what is reflected, not in what reflects it" is better
>>109083757Saar pls...
>>109083757A true audiophile will buy a dogshit IEM and then spend 5x as much on the gear to synergize it with.
Hey girls
>>109083856I'm a dude, is it ok to be in this thread.
>>109083856FYI... no (real) women care about IEMs or headphones.
>>109083909Little girls like headphones with cat ears.
>>109083909I disagree.
>>109083930Show girldick pls
Poweramp bros, not like this...
>>109077846for real?why are they so cheap?I've never ordered on aliexpress either, why does it seem like there's the same thing at 1/3 the price here?
>>109085118I feel like it's more of android fault than poweramp's?... after all player's EQ itself is perfectly accurate
>>109085127you surely must've heard something about chinese manufacturing in the time you've been aliveit turns out they really do put out absurds amount of product for not a lot of moneyalso that welcome deal is to get you into buying from ali, gotta get you hooked
>>109085170well then what else should I buy to pop my cherry.
>>109085127>for realNTA but I doubt it... more successful pros would probably buy something more expensive cause they are retarded>why are they so cheapbecause they are cheap chinese pos made of shit? but the thing is - it doesn't matter. they have decent sound signature, they are not too uncomfortable and they are cheap as fuck. shit's basically free so no real reason not to buy it especially if you are just starting with IEM autismo>I've never ordered on aliexpress either, why does it seem like there's the same thing at 1/3 the price here?literally just do not worry about it buy the cheapest one from one of more popular sellers (prob KZ themselves)
>>109085184probably a bunch of good eartips
>>109085199if this is their website https://gkaudiolab.com/products/gk-kunten/ they link to JoyBlast Toys Store(Trader).
>>109080361Because they never heard good ones.
>driver doesn't matter, just eq bruh>BA sucks, avoidthis general is so schizo like wtf..
>>109085118equalizerapo undefeatedf**o ja11... iykyk
could have posted the linkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deIFCnfRPOs
>>109085777There are driver quality measurements and BAs have low quality. At this point BA cope usually turns the other way around with "it's not audible" or whatever.
>>109085777I you want my personal opinion (you will get it anyway), DD is only good for flatheads and as part of mutidriver setup for bass. And maybe in TWS because of limitations. I got rid of every single 1DD pos I owned, most recently Origin.
>>109085655>Because they never heard good ones.Give an example pls.
>>109085883
>>109085777it seems that way because the tranny larps as multiple anons and replies to herself constantly
>>109079952>>109080336>>109079677Thanks, I'll try some other ideas and I won't write this shape off then.
I'm excited for my new Koss A/550 + FiiO M21 in champagne gold w/matching cassette case; I also got the navy blue case.
EQ won.
>>109087612You're more creative than Spielberg.
>>109087644I...won?
>>109087660We believe that you believe you won whatever it is you're spewing.
>>109079857I suppose I should have said that the sound quality is equal and the other features the Sony has while being the same price push it over the edge for me. Don't see why I should buy $300 IEMs when I can get the earbuds for the same price with equal sound quality and more features
do we know what dac chip they've implemented on the bunny dsp? how good is it
>>109087743Sounds like he won desu
EF499 takes up a bit of (vertical) space at a pretty similar footprint. yeah, sure, maybe it's better than the k11, but ehhhh, they're both chink built, so whatever.
>>109088850do you find that r2r sounds better than regular dacs?
>>109087135m21 is good, included tpu case is trash. I watched wavetheory review of that koss and he was talking about amplification, in short they need bit more than u think. I have m21, it has lots of power for such small device but in some cases (with larger planar drivers) it provides lots of volume but sound lacks dynamics and it feels thin compared to larger amps. I would be worried if its enough for that koss. Wavetheory was talkong about that and he thinks that without good amp koss is losing bit of bass performance and overall tuning shifts more towards upper frequencies.
gonna rebuy singularity soon. thats alli miss him like you wouldnt believe. it sounds like glass bottle coca cola
>>109089061I think if I can run it in balanced mode the M21 should be able to give it enough power according to some napkin math. My JDSLabs Atom 2 amp can shit out 2.5W single ended, so that can be an initial test to see where its comfort zone is.
>>109089823check out his review. Another thing, it has some sort of weird connector and cable is terminated in 3,5mm so u cant really use 4,4 power unless u buy balanced cable (and due to plugs on headphone side only cable that are made that way are some kind of expensive bullshit ofr Abyss, he was talking about someone that could provide cheaper option).
>>109075953are those the nozomi's? they worth picking up?
>>109089887if u like paying for ai generated stuff from china yes
EPZ P40 or EPZ P50?
>>109090465P50
How to put pos into my ears?
So, I have to requests:I'm looking for iems that sound as close as the Sony MDR-7506, which are my favourite headphones. Something around or even below the 150€ mark would be great.I'm also looking for a compact pmp. I've had the Hiby R4 for a year now, and even though I use it very often at home, I don't really take it outside as much because it's too bulky.
>>109090783>Sony MDR-7506, which are my favourite headphones
>>109080946> nip it in the bud? more like watch it bloom and then burn it down yourself
>>109089887jemine, 40 bucks, balanced v shape with decent sub bass, bit recessed mids, clear and not sibilant highs, solid build quality.
>>109085127all of them are garbage, just get EO-IG955
>>109081472> noirblanc is just a tangzu with azla tuning, you got scammed anon
>>109091343What's wrong with them? I've been using them for years so maybe it's just that I'm used to their sound, but I have no complaints about them.
(●'◡'●)
remember when we had $20 pos every week...
>>109091809nothing. everyone here is just a hateful, spiteful, malicious, vindictive piece of shit.
>>109091809Uncomfortable and sound like a tin can.
>>109091809Not great (or even good) sounding headphones. It and Beyers got their place in the market because they were in the right place at the right time, not because their headphones are great.
>>109090783EPZ P50
>>109091526what's wrong, nobody replying to your bait posts and you're getting antsy??
why is epz so good bros?
>>109075953I bought the tanchjim bunny last year and currently they have this yellow color to them, mainly from the tips and few inches below. Is there anything I can do to fix it?>inb4 just take a shower you smelly fuckOk fine but that won't unyellow my iem, I just want them to be clear again. What do you recommend anons (aside from taking more showers)?
>>109093430stop smoking
>>109093430>anything I can do to fix it?yes, buy foxiem
>>109093430White and clear plastics tends to yellow a lot in the sun. Only way to change it is to give it a UV treatment, which means taking it apart. You can't just scrub it away.This is why I don't buy anything white anymore, they discolor easily. Best to avoid it is not use it outside. If it's already yellow then your're kinda shit out of luck.
>>109093430Peroxide wash?Aside from that stop buying white/clear/silver cables and eartips. Let this be a lesson.
>>109093430get over it
>>109093430platic yellows because of UV. if you get another one, either dont use it outside, or if you have to, put headphones over it
>>109093430not all resins are the same quality. your best option is to get piss colored iems that will stay piss colored to where you don't really have to think about it.
My Miku DAP and IEMs arrived, the inclusion of a camera is still a waste but it's charming how far they went with the theming inside and out. Wish they'd do a collab with someone like Ado next
>>109094224Take a nice pic of the combo for us if you have time
>>109094099>dont use it outsideBullshit advice. All the shit I have that have yellowed over time hasn't seen sunlight. They even get yellower just by being in a box, doe not airtight
>>109094273>Bullshit advice.Entirely incorrect. UV light has a lot to do with degradation of cheap resins. Even oxygen itself degrades them. Sunlight is the leading cause of cheapo clear resins to turn yellow, on top of other factors adding up and contributing.
Hi all, newfag here. I got the Waner SG II like half a year ago and really love the sound of it but kinda want to try something newish. I was wondering if there were any iems that would be an upgrade to it that may have a similar but better overall sound? Did some research on the Crinear Daybreak and the EW300, should I bite?
>>109094473bite EQ first
Should i have ReplayGain enabled in my music player settings?
>>109094473>Daybreak and the EW300Get both and return the one you like least.
>>109094473EW300 is a scam IMO. Multi driver where the other drivers barely do anything, its tuning isn't anything you can't achieve with a single DD either.
>>109094684>the other drivers barely do anythingsource?