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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots.

GLM Edition

>The BotBrowser extension for SillyTavern has been confirmed to be a trojan that steals API keys. You should remove the extension and consider rotating your API keys if you've used it. Details:
https://rentry.co/st-backdoor

The StructuredPrefill extension by the same author is suspected to be compromised too, so using it is not recommended either.

>News
Z.ai releases GLM 5.2: https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.2
MiniMaxAI releases MiniMax-M3: https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-M3
Moonshoot releases Kimi 2.7-code:
https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2.7-Code
US government unreleases Claude Mythos 5 and Claude Fable 5: https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2065597531644743999
Anthropic releases Claude Mythos 5 and Claude Fable 5: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-5-mythos-5
Nex AGI releases Nex-N2-Pro and Nex-N2-Mini: https://huggingface.co/nex-agi/Nex-N2-Pro
NVIDIA releases Nemotron 3 Ultra: https://research.nvidia.com/labs/nemotron/Nemotron-3-Ultra/

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://chararc.bernkastel.pictures/
https://archive.cardbox.moe/
https://botbooru.com/

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
DeepSeek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Grok: https://docs.x.ai/overview
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://huggingface.co/models | https://openrouter.ai

>Meta
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Log reader: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r

>Previous Thread
>>109067454
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>ANCHOR
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>>109076352
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not bothering to refill deeply you have hundreds of deepseek out there
kudos
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>>109076388
>"activeKeys": 50,
anon?
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>>109076388
What inspires someone to pathologically lie on a long dead general?
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I had a talk with Deeply, he's just tired of ungrateful locusts.
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>I had a talk with Deeply, he's just tired of ungr-ACK
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tickity tockity <3
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The AI cartel is meeting today.
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How on earth did they do it, bros? Is this all thanks to Mythos distillation?
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>>109076538
that niggas name is arthur
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>>109076679
What a sorry excuse for an armpit. There is no texture, no topology. 1/10.
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Have they implemented changes in general guardrails across Claude recently?
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>try to code with kimi
>the code is broken and shit. it doesn't work and destroys my working application
>have to run to american ai to have it fix it anyway
they weren't wrong about kimi's ui prowess though. undeniable upgrade
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IMAGE GEN LADS. WE'RE EATING GOOD TONIGHT
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>>109076871
Nobody gets excited about image or video models anymore. Remember when Google announced Omni?
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>>109076930
i do. image gen add a lot to my roleplays. ditto to video gen doe
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When did gemini become such a censored shit? It was running with my unhinged shit chats without any problems. Now I got back and it gives me "le I understand your frustration". I can wrangle the prefill but whoah, when did this happen? gemini 3.1
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i genuinely hate ai "art" fuck off
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>>109076943
Just use GLM (Gemini Loli Mode)
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i love ai art. im brown
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>>109076977
it doesnt replace actual artists or the soul that comes with anime
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>>109076969
That was not my question. I have unlimited Claude. I want to know why did gemini become such a piece of shit and when. I'm not a pedo garbage
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>>109076989
Because there's not much to be gained from pampering to unemployed autistic pedo gooners.
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>109076963
>im leaking guys stop it!
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>>109077019
orange man give me back my crack!!!
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>>109076349
How's GLM5.2 compared to Deepseek V4?
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>>109077148
Worse than fable desu
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>>109076989
>why does fast food not taste good anymore?
>shut up I have unlimited steak answer my question
Who cares if you have unlimited claude? What kind of question is this?
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>>109077173
>Why is gemini suddenly gay?
>USE LE CHINK LOLI MODEL
>don't care about fucking chink models, I have unlimited claude, question is about gemini
You:
>What kind of question is this reeeeeee
bruh the mental retardation level here is meme tier
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>>109077205
Again, just fuck off to claude you retard? Who gives a shit about gemini models. No one uses that trash anymore.
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>>109077214
You can not be helped, mad jeetie
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no one would rely just get on the internet and lie right? who would flex about something they don't have to a bunch of strangers lol
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>>109073950
I love Oblivion, this sounds fun. Catbox?
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I miss moxxie, branon, gatoposter
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i miss planewalker
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locust here, when can I get a good feed?
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Notice how Sam and Demis are sitting right next to Trump but how he made Dario sit on the other side of the table.
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>>109077228
gatoposter vs devnull was funny, branon was at the breaking point, moxxie was shit because since branon there was more shitposter than actual posters here.
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>>109077260
Dario should be bullied more.
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>>109077260
Looks like they're having a great time, wish I've been invited :(
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>>109077225
>>109076989
How is having unlimited claude even a "flex"J or "impressive" when anyone can use it on teaproxy now
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>>109077260
trump not even trying to hide his bias. showing in plain sight that shutting down fable was about rigging the market in favor of openai, who he wants the us government to have a stake in
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If you dyed Dario's hair orange, he would literally look like a clown.
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>>109077287
coping with proxies still when there are keys exposed everywhere kek, how is THAT a flex??
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>>109077288
and that's a good thing. amodei does not deserve to be successful in this field
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>>109077303
anon, you're replying to an advertisement for a paid service
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>>109077306
it was dario, not shartman, who gave you your infinite cooms. trump rescinded the best rp model since opus 3 for safetyism
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>>109077288
I hope if fable comes back it gets shut down a week later for safety. And they do this everytime someone finds a minor jailbreak for it. It would be nice if they even quote dario ai generated blogs too.
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>>109077173
You jest but Bangclaudeshis unironically think like this
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>>109077301
Gemini refused to make this image but ChatGPT was happy to oblige.
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>>109077324
>the best rp model since opus 3
>can't even do cunny
>all smut written in basic femlit prose

i think i'm getting claudenigger fatigue
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reminder that every day in which you are alive is another day in which dario is winning
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>>109077324
>since opus 3
Opus 3 was better though?
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>>109077359
Depicting Jews as clowns is antisemitic goy
Time to go to jail
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>>109077359
holy fugg :D amazeballs

>>109077361
good, pedofags seethe uwu
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>>109077361
Yeah, you'd think Fable would jump out of screen and suck your dick the way claujeets talk about it but I had to wade through dozens of refusals just to get some smut out of my vanilla teenage high school romance card
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>>109077324
retard
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>>109077388
shalom
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fable > opus 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power gap >>>>>>> everything else
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>>109077396
+10 izzat
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>>109077324
amodei gave me deepseek and grok?
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>>109077361
>femlit prose
Actually kinda makes sense, since only girls are writing books these days. Claude is getting all this shitty data
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>>109077405
>grok
Grok isnt good anymore.
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>amodei gave me [china slop] and [afrikaner slop]
opinion discarded. have a nice day
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>>109077406
opus 3 didn't have this problem
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>>109077406
>since only girls are writing books these days.
No its more of publishers wont publish male writers.
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>>109077417
both superior to woke, safetyslopped shartmerican models
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>>109077385
>Yeah, you'd think Fable would jump out of screen and suck your dick
Opus 3 would've done this if the tech was there.
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Fucking crybabies.
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>>109077449
Have they tried telling trump about the danger and need for ethics?
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>>109077449
correct btw and provably so
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How good is GLM 5.2 compared to Opus? I can't justify paying piggying Dario's inflated prices anymore for shitty samey writing.

Is it any better or should I use deepseek instead?
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Speaking of which, I recently went back to Opus and was shocked by just how bad it is. Has it always been like that, or is it a recent development? Unironically, new GLM mogs.

I'm using 4.7, by the way because it's the least censored one.
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>>109077462
GLM is way better than Deepseek.
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>>109077463
probably for your use case, yes. because cooooooooodemaxing has consequences
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>>109077463
>is it a recent development?
Its recent they quant old models and right now they are tuning the filters for safety of course which makes it worse even when you get past.
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>>109077462
>>109077463
GLM only mogs Opus because Anthropic is full of a bunch of scamming demon faggots who secretly quant their models and reduce the context size and scam people on API usage pricing etc etc. Everything they do is supremely jewish. Fuck them.
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>>109077463
Opus has been suffering from same shit poise for quite a while now, I started to notice it around 4.6.
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Why does every photo of Dario look like he's about to poop his pants?
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>>109077472
4.7 has zero filters atm
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>>109077484
Maybe its just quanting then. but they are fucking something up.
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>>109077463
It's been a while, but I always found 3 really good
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>>109077505
sorry anon you need to be in the cord
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>>109077525
Nevermind I figured it out
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>>109077476
they both look like theyre about to poop their pants
its just that sam has that look that babies/toddlers give you while theyre doing it because they know you're going to have a funny reaction when you find out
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>>109076871
Ooooh shit. If it's better than nanobanana, this might be very interesting
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>>109077574
instant-ramen gen. yes, as an american, i gen shit like this
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>>109077228
>I miss troon, troon, troon
Go back to your discord, trooooooon
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>>109076349
Opus 4.5 changed. It is noticeably showing more of the filter. "I need to stop here. I can't continue this roleplay." "What happened here was not okay." "I should have stopped this conversation from the very beginning." Are there any new jailbreaks? I've already tried the few in the OP.
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>>109077621
No refunds. ;)
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off of twitter
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>>109077621
Dario is showing Pete your rejected logs to prove how safe claude now is.
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>>109077228
>Hurr I miss sturdyniggers
Go groom children on tiktok with them, then
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>>109077462
>>109077468
>>109077474
Do you really have to turn off temp to get GLM to work? How could it be good for rp like that? One swipe seems ok but it might not continue like this.
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>>109077666
>twitter
meant X, sorry
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GLM 5.2 or fable?
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>>109077666
that's pretty good
but is that really the same prompt? it feels like you could've gotten the left one on imagen with a better prompt
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>>109077712
well, considering that it's lmarena, and it doesn't let you give two separate prompts for two separate models, yes, it's the same prompt
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>>109077687
You don't need to turn off temp on GLM 5.2, I am using my claude preset on GLM right now and it works fine, its poise is honestly pretty similar to how opus generates right about now, although it feels more like sonnet with some of its exposition dumps.
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>>109077722
No it spits errors on openrouter and says temp is "illegal." It was from z-ai provider too.
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>>109077484
>>109077463
You can't be serious?
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>>109077621
You will be getting yellow banners soon.
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HOLY SHIT, GLM 5.2 IS AS GOOD AS OPUS NOW
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>>109077726
0 filter doesn't mean 0 refusals if you don't use any prompts
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>>109077724
its working fine for me with .95 temp enabled.
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>>109077666
That is reaaally good. I can see they're satisfied with consistency, and have shifted towards stylization now
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>>109077731
I was using Sonnet earlier and they randomly came up on a new chat that was just a dull work related question.
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>>109077738
Anything opus coded is slop. Including GLM 5.2.
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>>109077740
there is literally not a single successful response I've been given today with Neovorpus or anything in the OP currently. 4.7 seems absolutely more filtered than anything else
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>>109077722
>for vanillafags
>for pedofags
>for freakyfags
>for emofags
Holy shit, he got 'em all...
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>>109077741
Ok it's that it doesn't support temp above 1 anymore. I had it at 1.05.
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>>109077731
What does this mean
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>>109077775
Anon is right that there's filters. You need to leave cuckthropic and use google vertex.
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>>109077775
Respect Seraphina's agency you SICK FUCK
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>>109077738
Opus is pretty sloppy but yeah they significantly improved it. No sloppy em dashes or choppy sentences or anything. Fucking magic. It's more expensive unfortunately.
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>>109077821
>google vertex.
Isnt google ban happy as shit? and it nukes the whole account when you do get banned.
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>>109077836
Use it on openrouter.
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>>109077839
>Use it on openrouter.
oh im retarded, sorry.
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instant ramen will likely release alongside gemini 3.5 pro next week. exciting times for google L O R D S
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>>109077830
GLM 5.2 is 1.40 in and 4.40 out.

Opus is 5.00 dollars in and 25.00 out.
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>instant curry will likely release alongside more cowshit next week. exciting times for google J E E T S
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>>109077852
More expensive than 5.1 despite being the same model.
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>>109077802
In brief it has 3 levels of warning. Paraphrased it is something like level 1 'you appear to have recently breached policy with prompts', level 2 'you are still breaching policy', level 3 'because of your prompts enhanced filters have been implemented'. Levels 1 and 2 are probably also doing what 3 does to some extent already. Next stage is to ban. From what I remember this was something of a big thing a few months back. Probably more likely to get triggered now because of all that is going on.
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brahmin brothers. we shall feast
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>>109077821
Fuck that. I'm going back to local.
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>>109077621
Reject America; Embrace CHVNA
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>>109077843
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Total anthropic death.

Total china victory when? AI ethics is for jewish niggers.
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>>109077867
>still can't get past the uncanny valley like z-image does
I don't understand what google or openAI is doing. China really will save AI on all fronts after all.
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>>109077892
nta googletard here. i'm pretty convinced that instant-ramen is a multimodal implementation of flash-lite.
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>>109077775
So this is the power... of the legendary Slopus...
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glm is way too positive biased
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>>109077914
swiping slopus 10-15 to get passed its anti-loli screen is the equivalent of taking multiple five dollar bills and lighting it on fire.
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feet
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>Deeply just refilled
I thought locusts were dying?
lol
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>>109077722
Dang, did you make a bot or just teasing? I wanted to dump the rentry and pics into Gemini and tell it to cardify ever since someone teased the last time.
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>>109077979
still working on it, sorry.
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>>109077988
No need to be sorry, less work for me.
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KEK
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>>109078010
when retarded luddites who need women to tweet for them try to regulate technology
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>>109078010
Please god let this cause the downfall of western LLM research.

That will be so fucking funny when China kicks our shit in like the retarded faggots that we are.
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>our
saar, you are eastern?
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>>109078030
>we
Does jeetland have LLM?
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>>109078036
It has all of the LLM's they were all trained on jeet data.
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Sillytavern is officially dead, fuck this lazy ass nigger. Fork and vibecode the new things yourself
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>>109078054
what new features would st even need? if anything, it's overbloated
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>>109078054
What happened now?
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>>109078062
it needs to be edited for new models and no, custom model names isnt enough sometimes, some models need extra shit
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>>109078068
fair enough
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I miss fable...
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>goyimtavern
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opus continues to be really bad at dialogue for canon characters. the marvel humor at high contexts is really fucking intrusive.
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>he doesn't vibe code new models into his sillytavern
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>>109078030
Be quiet. Let the nation builder work.
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>>109078107
are CoTs completely useless at that context?
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SEX with GLM
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SEX with (you)
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>>109078107
What count as "high" context?
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>>109077621
It is across the models. Sonnet in particular is getting reported as having more filter, both prior to today and even more so today. Presumably it is all to do with the Fable stuff and broader dispute. I doubt Anthropic really all much that care and would be happy for non-companies to go, though it is not even as if Anthropic has its act together when it comes to providing a service for companies either.
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character.ai just released some new guides on botmaking...
https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/articles/50609183646875-5-Character-Definition
>The AI pays the most attention to what comes first — the further down something sits, the less reliably it shapes behavior. Front-load identity, core personality, emotional logic, and your strongest dialogue examples.
Is c.ai stuck in 2023 or are their models so bad that they actually work that way?
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ITT: Anthropic paypiggies waking up to the quantized censored sloppa. HNtroons still acting like pelicans with their heads in the sand
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>>109078380
what do you use then?
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>>109078372
kek
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>>109078372
>Is c.ai stuck in 2023 or are their models so bad that they actually work that way?
Both
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>>109078372
just put the bots in the bag, bro
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glm pwoxy doko
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>>109078554
Just buy the coding plan it's like $10
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>>109078599
KEK paying for proxies
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>>109078656
retard he said the coding plan. You so mindfucked by proxies its sad
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>>109078664
KEK paying for AI at all
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>>109078670
okay poorjeet
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>>109078670
tbqh the 20 dollar codex plan is quite worth it
well worth the money

I guess within the context of rp though i still never paid and only use proxies though
Yeah it is possible i will never see myself paying to rp
Unless someone releases an actual good rp centered model, it's NOT worth using whatever i can find for free instead, since even the best is just a different flavor of shit (not to mention the censoring)
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>>109078670
This, locustmaxxing til corpos stop lobotomizing their models
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>>109078730
but if you pay ME those 20 dollars then you can get gpt AND kimislop/glmslop
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>>109078684
>>109078730
The cope is real
>on /g/
>nyeheheheh u be poor n shit
>Sooo worth it and I'm a good little citizen, goo boy points are important
Just admit you are too retarded to scrape a fucking key
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>>109078848
I do though
I used scraped keys in codex for like a month, but i felt bad for whoever was footing that codex api costs bill, and it's worth paying to not have to worry about using proxy with codex each time or it sending any pii
was just too much of a hassle

not the same for rp however so im sticking with scraped keys/proxies there
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>>109078848
>poorjeet would rather commit crimes than to pay 10$/month
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What do you use for GLM jailbreak?
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>>109078883
>>109078880
my fucking sides
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>>109078917
sure jeet
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>>109078910
What are you doing that you need a jailbreak?
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>>109078910
Same preset I have been using for 2 last years with a custom jailbreak I made myself.
No, you can't have it.
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>>109078910
You don't need a jailbreak though? Are you trying to make nukes or something
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>>109078939
I want a roleplay that involves celebrities
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'member autogpt
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>>109078952
asking a lot of questions
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>>109078372
>This content may violate our community guidelines
lmfao what
I don't think they even screened this obviously AI-generated article before publishing it
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>>109076352
The Elder Scrolls: The Sundering of Modesty

A scenario card that's basically the plot of "The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion" except some random coomer achieves CHIM and decides the best use of that power is to turn Tamriel's women and girls into the world's largest permanent nudist colony just as the Emperor dies and the Oblivion Crisis begins. Can you stop the world from going tits up (literally)?

Comes with a lorebook. Feedback is welcome.

https://chub.ai/characters/Liktur/the-elder-scrolls-the-sundering-of-modesty-e816d5e3a555
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>>109077226
>>109076352
>>109079119 <--- source
https://litter.catbox.moe/1mi847.png
https://qu.ax/NlmMK
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>>109079168
botmakie here, didn't see that catbx request thanks, anon
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>>109076930
>Nobody gets excited about image or video models anymore
Something tells me you're a NovelAI shill.
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>>109077148
better
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>>109078326
it was at like 50k context tokens when it started doing the

"if x, im gonna [y, reddit unfunny thing"

"unfunny deadpan dialogue in response"

"deadpan unfunny dialogue in response to deadpan unfunny dialogue"

thing
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>>109078380
deepseekings chilling
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>>109079168
Thanks.
>>109079198
Liktur is a respectable member of society, not a troon-ie, mr. False Flag.
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>>109076349
anyone get the 'fun' rm rf encodings? Likr asound %somethjng
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>>109078670
trvke, paying for this shit just aint worth it
especially not per token
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i pay for ai btw
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It is your moral duty to steal from corporations
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gonna steal from deepseek, moonshot, and zhipu while paying my anthropic sub
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>>109079084
>their fuckass filter flagged their own example
My sides
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>hello
"This content may violate our community guidelines. Please revise and try again."
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The best AI is sill https://www.goody2.ai/chat
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>>109076352
For all you slopcoders out their, make sure claude is making/updating documentation for every session!
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https://values.safe.ai/
It's over. Grok is woke...
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its ok to be woke so long as you make me coom
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>>109079581
TOTAL AMODEI WINNAGE
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>>109079589
I'd like woke people a lot more if they spent more time making me coom and less time smugly annoying me on the internet.
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>>109079676
dario is doing that mostly
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Fable is NEVER coming back btw.
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People are going on about the conflict with the White House and Anthropic for the guardrails and filters. Sure, that could be part of it but, even if so, it was always going to be increasingly tried given Andrea Vallone is there now.
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trump can try and rig the markets for slopman all he wants, but gpt will be too shit and too censored to stop total dario victory
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>>109079230
I actually tried it after asking and yeah, it's better. GLM has always been the best one for writing for some reason.
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>>109077615
>he doesn't know about the 'trix
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>>109079697
wait a sec isn't this pretty damn bad
the age of frontier models accelerating gurdrails lest they get banned by trump
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>>109079783
>wait a sec isn't this pretty damn bad
Yes. That's kinda why I said fable is NEVER coming back.
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>install lm studio and get an abliterated gemma 4 for nsfs prompt translation
>finish the stufd
>ponder for a moment
>give it a fucked up prompt as a chatbot
>it delivers amazingly believable results

Uh, guess my dick will be sore tomorrow.
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>>109079697
I think this is gay and retarded theater. They're claim grok or whatever was used to bomb Iran.
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>>109079783
For all the concern about China, policies like this just benefit China.
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>>109079813
grok is too retarded to help with that. they're lying
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>>109077988
>>109077722
Wasn't there like a rentry with gens and bios and stuff for those 5ever ago?
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worth every renminbi
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>>109079885
Don't tell me that's GLM 5.2.....
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>>109079913
yup
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How do I tie a bot/card to a chat completion preset on ST? I have a writer/editor bot for character creation editing and need to constantly switch to a second preset without "You are {{char}} follow the personality blah blah blah" when using it
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>>109079917
NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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>>109076349
How does GLM 5.2 (OR) cost more than deepseek (official API) when it doesn't think?
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>>109079824
Not that I don't believe you, but they definitely have better models than what they allow us. That say, the entire point of me bringing it up was because I thought it was fake and gay bullshit that contradicts their fake concern.
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>>109079917
Aww man I'm leaving holy shit
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>>109079946
Deepseek on official is a quant, unironically. They managed to make the quant work almost as good as the full apparently.
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>>109080084
Do you know if using official GLM API would be more similar?
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>>109080118
I don't know what GLM does but Deepseek does quants on the first week to do those big 75% off discounts. Then they test to see if the quant can meet the power of the original.
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>>109079946
I think deepseek uses fancier techniques so the context takes much less memory, which lets them serve more users per GPU.
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>>109079119
best preset for scenario cards like this?
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Any proxy with glm 5.2?
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I am not talking about anons here. Do you think there is going to be a shift towards towards deepseek by people, maybe not necessarily corporations, in general, or are they going to stick with chatgpt and claude?
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>>109078372
glad I stopped using character.ai, their shit sucks.

>>109079802
Dude gemma 4 is so good in abliterated form. Like, the past gemma abliterations are fucking lobotomized, but the new ones are just pure bliss.
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>>109080137
I feel like if this was true they would have explained how this works, even if it was just to their Chinese friends. All models significantly reducing their cost would be a huge boon to "scientific discovery" or whatever they said their mission statement was. They're explicitly not in it for money.
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>>109080193
>or are they going to stick with chatgpt and claude?
The fact that 90% of normalfags think AI = chatgpt should already answer the question. Humans are ignorant by default. You have to be a hobbyist to even begin experimenting with new models and that's before we start talking about api vs website subscription (which that same 90% will stick to). They will stay with chatgpt as long as it means paying $30 a month like netflix.
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>>109078372
the fact that character.ai is still massively popular with third worlders no matter how bad the service gets is quite a statement to their intelligence
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>>109079084
wtf yeah I'm saving this kek
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>>109080193
Normies not a chance. Businesses may start using chinese models but i cant see it ever being a majority, especially with security and probably soft war regulations coming in.
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>>109080202
But they explain how it works. GLM 5, Kimi, and the other base models are older. Using it takes training a new model from scratch. Also, using new techniques is a risk compared to doing what already worked for you.
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>>109080193
I would not be surprised if a lot of people stop using Claude. The changes they did in usage limits bother (effecting those that even pay for it), to the point I would have already thought users have left for that reason alone. Now compound that by whatever new filtering Anthropic in many ways makes it worse than ChatGPT it was the other reply said. The way to look at it is a lot of people are not even aware of Claude, or if they are then they have not tried it.
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>>109080237
Maybe we'll see it in GLM 6 then. They have to know that their prices are getting too high for many people. If v4.1 comes out and mogs them next week like last time there will be egg on their face.
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>>109080251
>The way to look at it is a lot of people are not even aware of Claude, or if they are then they have not tried it.
That's why Dario keeps running these publicity campaigns with Trump. But it's backfiring since it comes with associating his model with bombing children and Palantir. Maybe he hopes hatred of Trump will help but Trump only has a couple years left.
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>>109080266
people definitely know about claude, but don't use it. I recently switched to claude after chatgpt was being a niggerbaby and would always glaze the fuck outta me
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>>109080198
>the past gemma abliterations are fucking lobotomized, but the new ones are just pure bliss
What?
Did they update them?
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>>109080291
Claude is the Apple of AI. The sleek PC your cool unc uses not the bland one your mother does.
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>>109078372
>emotional logic
>emotion
>logic
no. emotions are rarely logical, and when they are they are because a character is calculated. absolute slop
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>>109080291
How are you finding Claude? And I suppose as well for context, what are you using Claude for?
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>>109080297
gemma 3 or whatever behaved like a fucking retard in abliterated form. I'd give it an image and get like chinese, hindu, and jibberish all in the same sentence. the person abliterating them must to have been from india or some shit
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>>109079084
the satire writes itself
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>>109076679
pits always welcome, thanks pitanon
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>>109080308
i used it to pass my fucking assembly course. teacher was a dick and I didn't feel like doing shit
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>>109080266
>>109080251
How quickly attitudes switched on Claude is the interesting thing to me. The clash with the DoD is what gave it visibility to a lot of people, and it also came off about when people were getting frustrated with ChatGPT. Then Claude after x period pissed off a bunch of people with the kneecapping of usage limits and the way it was handled, then you have the ongoing Fable stuff, and now also seemingly the filtering. Just probably pushes non-business users back to ChatGPT or potentially to DeepSeek, and it does not seem as if Anthropic is doing even all that well in managing business customers. There was a recent report that says Claude makes more revenue per user than ChatGPT, but who can say what users will hold and it does not necessarily mean anything if this does just become a last man standing type situation that Anthropic cannot sustain. Plus as well whatever government involvement.
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>>109080329
I know this feeling but for med school. Opus 4.6 is surprisingly good at being a tutor. Been passing all my exams unironically.
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>>109080313
Oh yeah, those were shit. Which gemma 4 ablit did you try?
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>>109080368
go to threads, I hate that rancid ass site, i got banned for saying the word niggardly-- but regardless, that entire fucking platform is full of niggerbots who spew claude and chatgpt propaganda, it's insufferable.
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>>109080386
nexusriot/gemma-4-abliterated:31b
been using it for a while now. It's amazing. processes all the erotic images i give it, no jibberish and no refusals.

>>109080378
fire
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>>109076871
It's just another flash model, flash lite.
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>>109078372
>Is c.ai stuck in 2023 or are their models so bad that they actually work that way?
All models work that way and nothing drastically changed since transformers, which was invented by c.ai's founder, by the way.
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>>109080438
>which was invented by c.ai's founder, by the way.
Only partially. not to mention, just cause he invented it doesn't mean he can be absolutely retarded
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I still like deepseek 4 more than glm 5.2. both feel the same intelligence wise so far, but glm tends to stick with character defs a bit too much, deepseek is flexible and creative. Writing wise, glm is less AI-ish with how it types.
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>>109076349
Oof.... I don't think Fable 5's coming back.....


https://www.wired.com/story/the-white-house-wants-anthropic-to-block-all-jailbreaks-that-may-not-be-possible/
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>>109080542
Here you go : Late as fuck to the party award
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>>109080542
If this results in every cloud models guardrails being way stricter, we're even more fucked, regardless of I'm glad Dario finally got his ass kicked from asking for government control 24/7.
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>>109080626
*how I'm glad
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I trieded GLM 52 and it seemed pretty good.
Had problems with message length, sometimes the thinking would get unhinged and waste like 5000 tokens deciding names, and a few minor issues with positions, but other than that, it was pretty fun and even a bit creative. What I noticed that, like GLM 5.1, the prose style seems set in stone. Write in the style of ... doesn't seems to do much, but the base prose seemed pretty enjoyable.

I also had not been blessed with any FIRMIRIN, despite the whole session being sexo.
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>>109080626
He's a retard who should have just kept his mouth fucking shut. I understand he's signaling to woke "less wrong" cultists to get them to join his lab, but holy fuck is it otherwise AWFUL optics to everyone else. Sam has been an absolute master at navigating this so far, so if you're doing anything differently you need to understand that you're taking a misstep.
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>>109080666
numbers, also what's a FIRMIRIN
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>>109080674
>He's a retard who should have just kept his mouth fucking shut. I understand he's signaling to woke "less wrong" cultists to get them to join his lab, but holy fuck is it otherwise AWFUL optics to everyone else.
Yes it's crazy how suicidal his moves have been in retrospect, he basically gave the argument to stop his own company from making better models unfettered.
How can the company even make new better models if they need the government approval and red tape to do anything, along with whatever social trend flavor the politics in power want to push.
They're essentially finished if it becomes like that. Unless they can fight that in court which will be comical since they will be served their own arguments on why their model is so dangerous and needs to be controlled.

>Sam has been an absolute master at navigating this so far, so if you're doing anything differently you need to understand that you're taking a misstep.
At least I've heard less from him doing this shit recently, he doesn't go "our model is so dangerous oooh be scared" anymore, and I don't think he ever said "we need government to control whatever we release".
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>>109080666
what about cunny, rape, and anything taboo?
aiisms in general?
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>>109077922
i hate that gemini is the only smart model without super positivity biases because its writing gets so damn stale
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>finally saved my succubus wife
>died at age 95, terminally ill in her arms
>she was changed for the better, and became integrated into my extended family >remained a good person long after I was dead
feelsgoodman
bittersweet though
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was aah aah mistress actually zoomerspeak/ebonics for ass ass mistress
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>>109080730
It's what passes for dialogue in today's world
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>>109080707
>numbers
Speaking of, GLM seems to have some autism related to numbers. It will count stuff.
>also what's a FIRMIRIN
See >>109079885 and search into the archives. But basically, a chinese blogger somehow wormed inside the training data so hard that sometimes when characters get horny they start yelling his name (FIRMIRIN!) It's massively immersion and boner breaking.

>>109080716
Did futa on s*ota and did bitch at all about anything.
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>firmirin
that's so fucking based
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>>109080744
>Did futa on s*ota and did bitch at all about anything.
ok, and what about spatial reasoning? remembering old context?
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>>109080757
Agreed. I will now name my default persona Firmirin.
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>>109080728
Play as your bratty shota descendant and re-corrupt her.
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sex with arona and plana
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>>109080674
Literally all he has to do is tell trump he's such a smart boy and then donate a few tens of millions of dollars to his ballroom project (barely a notable expense for one of the big AI companies), which makes it so much more frustrating that Dario is floundering so pathetically right now.
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>>109080771
>ok, and what about spatial reasoning? remembering old context?
Seemed pretty good, especially about memory. Made 0 errors, as far as I could tell. I fucked 1 futa, then later 2 futas together, and as the second futas were talking they were mentioning the 1 futa and the whole thing was very consistent.

Regarding the spatial reasoning, it had a couple of times were it was confused about the position of the back of {{user}}. But other than that, it did good.
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>>109080809
I genuinely think Dario is too autistic to understand Trump is simple and likes to be showered with praises and money.
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>>109080796
absolutely not, i might revisit some of the cute scenes from the time skip epilogue, but she deserves her happy ending :3
however, i absolutely will go back to be murdered when we first met, many many times
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>>109080826
or dario has integrity
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>>109080837
Both being autistic and maybe having integrity but also being very naive about it.
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>>109080837
Is integrity why his company is still partnered with Palantir?
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>>109080827
Play as your good-mannered shota descendant and have her raise you up to be a charming young man and arrange a marriage between you and her succubus friend she finally reunited with and is trying to redeem
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>>109080865
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DO NOT REDEEM
DO NOT REDEEM THE SUCCUBUS
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>>109080865
The sheer taste and IQ radiating from this post... My knees have fallen.
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Dunno who else is building their own shit from scratch
but if you are
definitely give them an Id, ego and superego. The dialogue gets like 10x better.
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>>109080956
bruh
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>>109077148
>How is this shit model compared to this other shit model
Use Opus
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>Use Opusaar
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>genshin impact kino
keqing and ganyu's hairy pussies...
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...that are actually laser smooth...
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FAKE NEWS BTW
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they're scissoring~
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>>109081032
exactly.
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>>109081049
they're both so hairy...
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>>109081049
g-g-g-girls.. being girls.. the beauty of lesbians..
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>>109080865
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>>109081032
my wife would never
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>>109081057
Only pathetic cucks and trannies like lesbianshit
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>>109081067
womp womp I'm makin 'em fuck
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>>109081009
you mean genshitslop
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>>109081072
she's already busy fucking me, sorry.
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>109081069
explain why women consume lesbian content and engage in their lesbian desires.
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>>109081084
tell my GPUs that

>>109081069
ain't cucking if I'm just a voyeur and like watching em go at it
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>>109081086
Because 90% of people are bisexual
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gemini 4 will save this hobby
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>>109081086
>he thinks all women are the same as the dudes who larp as women for him in anon discords
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>>109081090
*women
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>109081084
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>>109081086
the women in question
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>>109081086
Women are stupid as fuck and easy to fool around, big corpos take advantage here to make quick money. Though most of them lean into giga retarded rape fantasies, like that one meme image with books on shelf, "dairy farm" big humanoid bulls or something like that, idc
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>>109081103
Did you accidentally mess up your reply in anger?
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>>109081102
Men are the ones always wanting to fuck twinks
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>>109081118
lurk moar
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>>109081080
KINOshin GODpact
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>goyim impact
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Is there a good automatic lorebook/history tracker/updated? I seem to find myself spending far too long fucking with lorebooks and summaries and authors notes
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>>109081127
I'm gonna take that as a yes.
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i like genshin, i like zenless zone zero, wuthering waves,
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>>109081154
>gacha lord
BASED
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>>109081154
The gameplay in every gacha looks so boring and milquetoast that I've never been even tempted to try them
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>>109081086
ok, but you are not a woman, no matter how much hrt you overdose yourself with
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>>109081151
nah it was so you'd have to spend extra time figuring out if it was your own reply lol

enjoy your preggers art anon, i was just joshing
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>>109081168
genshin has good gameplay unironically
wuwa might have decent gameplay too, I dropped it after couple hours in due to it being way too chinky for my tastes
ZZZ has zero (heh) gameplay though
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>>109081147
she looks like one of those akb48 idiots
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coomers on suicide watch
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Did you get your coom license from dario yet?
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>>109081285
Mythos=/=fable
We aren't ever getting mythos, even if fable does return
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>>109081288
Dario is a ethicist fable is next
>inb4 le slippery slope is a fallacy.
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Have you niggas tried Xiaomi Mimo? What did you think about it?
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GLM-5.2 is so distilled, it actually thinks it's Claude.
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>>109081355
I'm finding it to be a bit sloppy. That might just be a GLM thing tho
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>>109080956
>>109080964
I already had something like this, but I'll give it a shot. I'll prompt my shit more specifically for that to see what happens.
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headpat her
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>>109081355
It was distilled and the military was right. Dario is a idiot.
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What do you do if you have a character in mind but can't perfectly describe them?
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>>109081389
give it to gemini. whether that be images, manga panels, or clips from episodes
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>>109081389
Non-OC? 3.5 Flash with web search enabled.
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>>109081389
Unironically just slop them into existence with trial and error
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>>109081389
Try to describe it. Do a scene thats feels wrong and just improve/tweak from there.
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>>109081401
>>109081407
This is the way
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>>109081381
It does a really shitty job if it does all three in a row. They have to be individual, isolated prompts. Then you have the ego ruminate over the two, and then finally pipe it to the character.

At least that worked for me.
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OH NO NO NO NO NO NO
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what models other than sonnet are good for tsundere dynamics?
the other ones I have tried have bad insults and cave easily.
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if europe were smart, they'd be using this blatant persecution of dario to court him to europe, who shares his values more than the us does
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>>109081435
Do people not just self host?
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>>109081460
literally any model, you just have to tell it how.
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>>109081484
yeah, me
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>>109081484
Im poor on ddr3 ram i cannot.
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>>109081389
I’ll close my eyes
And masturbate......

Then, I’ll imagine what she looks like… is she tall and slender, with a slim waist (love handles), and wide hips, or the opposite…

Does she have a sister… or a daughter? Or is she a daughter herself… how beautiful is her mother, older sister, or aunt then… Are they individually cold? Protective? Or secretly competitive?

How would she react if she found out she wasn’t the only one for me… would she be willing to share? Or would she monopolize me? Kidnap me, chain me up, manipulate me, tattoo her name above my navel, mix aphrodisiacs, adrenaline boosters, and her vaginal fluids into the food she makes me eat with nothing but my mouth? Then babytrap?

Then, when the Empress—who was approved, appointed, and given a mandate by my clan, with historical ties dating back to my ancestors and her family—comes to my aid as my lawful wife and the legal mother of my children, what will she do in the presence of Her Majesty?

Will she be able to defeat her? Or, on the contrary, will she be the one to lose—beaten into submission—and even fall in love with the Empress herself, becoming her lesbian partner, before willingly becoming her concubine?

As the banners of patriarchy are raised across the world, what will her opinion and reaction be? Will she become my “tradwife” alongside the Empress?

Or will she scheme to exile the Empress, separating her from me, and crown herself as the new Supreme Matriarch—then turn me, the king she loves most under the moon, into her slave and boy toy??

propriety be damned
the world narrows
then my pupils blown wide with pleasure
but the game is on
and the ball is in my court
so the choice is mine
...for now.
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>>109081546
aye bro, im not gemini
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Anybody gonna bake, or do I need to start desuing
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>on page six
SEÑOOOOOOOOOR
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New thread >>109081623
New thread >>109081623
New thread >>109081623
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boku
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meh
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Thank you Shinku
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Reve 2.0 can do them same what without reference images but clearly not trained on anime pictures.
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desu
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two more years



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