that's gentoo
t. gentoofrogs

>>109097390
gentooo :DDD

>>109097390
We love Gentoo here.

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I finally learned how to write a non-trivial .asoundrc and now, after decades of restarting programs to switch speakers, I have gained the ability to switch from headphones to speaker on the fly in plain alsa.

ibstall gentooo :DDDD

>>109097488
Now try to get Bluetooth audio working, then try to get networked audio working, then blow your brains out trying or switch to a proper sound server.

>>109097383
I use neither but why are Arch users less gay than gentoo

>>109097488
Maybe in another 20 years you'll figure out libalsa mixing sucks and install something that works.

So does KDE/Arch allow native OneDrive integration or not? I recently noticed that Breeze includes folder icons for OneDrive/cloud, but are they, like, actually used anywhere?

On that note, why doesn't Breeze have a folder icon for Projects yet?

>>109097613
There's a KIO plugin you can install which gives OneDrive support.

>>109097613
What should the icon for the Projects folder even look like? Sounds open to interpretation depending on what your projects actually are. If you were an artist then maybe two paint brushes, a coder then maybe a terminal icon, or maybe go boring office style with a whiteboard or binder, etc.

>>109097584
usecase for networked audio?

anyone here on arch uses the chaotic aur repository?

>>109097674
I've used it. It's useful if you want to install sets of AUR packages already pre-compiled.

>>109097383
Hi, what's an alternative to rofi with more features?

>>109097674
>>109097692
and if you want a user repository that makes at least a token attempt to make sure you're not getting malware lmao

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what the fuck is this shit? who thought this was a good idea?
and who allowed this person to keep on being alive?

>>109097652
living in a house with >1 room
leaving the house

>>109097635
>What should the icon for the Projects folder even look like?
Folder with set-square or clock

>>109097754
You have browser.nova.enabled enabled. Turn it off, it's not ready yet as you can see.

>>109097759
not him but can you give a serious use-case for it? the only time i've touched networked sound was for a VM running on the same machine, but i don't use that anymore since i no longer have a use for a VM having sound

>>109097759
my receiver can do multi-room multi-source, don't use it mough thoughsomebeitever
>leaving the house
i do not see the vision. legitimately what is the benefit of this going through the same stack as your normal speakers?

>>109097864
A lot businesses do everything through VDI or roaming desktop. Sometimes things need to play sounds more complex tha the terminal bell for one reason or another.

>>109097917
It's not the same stack as your normal speakers.

>>109097954
ah, so it's to be semantics and vague posting instead of discussion, nevermind.

>>109097954
>A lot businesses do everything through VDI or roaming desktop. Sometimes things need to play sounds more complex tha the terminal bell for one reason or another.
i mean more system-wide/sound-server networked audio, like what pulse/pipewire supports. other kinds like remote desktop or streaming music use other methods that don't require pulse/pw

>>109097987
The only difference between your post and the other guy's was that single incorrect assumption. The full answer is VDI + roaming desktop + you don't know wtf you're talking about.

>>109097993
All modern OS have some kind of sound server which remote desktop uses for network sound. Windows AudioEndpointBuilder and MacOS coreaudiod are direct analogs.

>>109097584
>Bluetooth
ISHYGDUT
biggest fucking vulnerability on the planet

>>109098061
>All modern OS have some kind of sound server which remote desktop uses for network sound. Windows AudioEndpointBuilder and MacOS coreaudiod are direct analogs.
i don't doubt that, but the conversation is reasons to use pulse/pw over alsa. i'm not even the guy using alsa, i actually like some of the features of pipewire. i don't care how other os's do this

>>109098073
I don't disagree but unfortunately speakers and headphones still use the crap instead of some audio protocol over Wifi.

>>109098077
Because the mixing facilities provided by libalsa are shit and they never bothered to fix it or give it a decent config interface because any of the 3 well known sound servers are so much better.

You keep asking for the use case for an audio server but haven't presented a use case for forcing devs to use a low level audio API to feed sounds to a high level software mixer or not depending on your whim.

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flameshot, is it still the best screenshot program? Installing new laptop and haven't looked into new stuff for the past decade.

>>109098142
Flameshot is still worth using, yes.

I ran victoria 2 (pirated) through steam's proton and I got this crash log. Any ideas?
https://pastebin.com/0c2UX4m3

are arch retard and shitter troons still hosting loads of malware on their gayming shitboxes?

>>109098393
They disabled sign ups on the AUR. You literally can't make an account anymore. So, no, they're not for now but the moment they allow new signups again it'll happen again until they do something about the way the AUR works. It is a user respository that works the way it works by design. Unless they lock that shit down and stop people from adopting or creating packages it'll keep happening. It's amazing this never happened sooner.

>>109098403
I'm marginally surprised they don't just get someone trusted to review the code and verify submissions.
Oh I know, it's because nobody is being paid.

Unfortunately I don't see any other way out of this. Either everyone is okay with randos submitting software that could do literally anything (because lol read the pkg my ass), OR there's some way to vet the content by a 3rd party to ensure it's not just a keylogger.

>>109098403
>It's amazing this never happened sooner.
it isn't. loads of retards and shitters recently picked up arch with no knowledge of how software works.
lots of retards downloading and using code + 1 israeli glownigger = bot networks

>>109098430
You just need a trusted team of community maintainers to oversee it. It works for GURU on Gentoo:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:GURU

Now the AUR is significantly larger but still, it really shouldn't take people more than a couple of minutes to look at the PKGBUILD and decide if it's okay or not.

>>109098438
I think you could have npm installing malware even after a review. there just needs to be a hard stop before anything installs npm or pip and asks the user if they trust this. a reviewer isn’t going to know that npm “oneplusone” package is compromised.

>>109097584
Bluetooth should still work fine with alsa i think. At least it did last time i tried.
Dunno how to get networked audio working with alsa though, i did manage to pull it off with pipewire using their rtp backend.

>>109097759
>leaving the house
Wouldn't that give massive latency?

>>109097864
Easiest usecase would be if you had some kind of sound system set up and wanted all of your devices to be able to use it.
Most of the time people just use bluetooth audio for this now.

>>109098453
A network sandbox for makepkg like Gentoo has could help but then people would have to write proper PKGBUILDs. In Gentoo, you literally couldn't have npm installing malware if you wanted to because the network sandbox will block it unless it happens in the src_unpack phase which is the only thing that has access to the network.

At the very least I think AUR helpers should sandbox the users home directory which they don't do right now. That would be a cheap fix to stop malware gaining persistence.

>>109098504
Although, it could still install itself as part of the package that gets installed but still, the users home directory is important to protect. On my Arch installs I actually build my AUR packages in a dedicated aur user since the helpers do fuck all here.

>>109098504
I’ve just chosen to mask npm and pip on gentoo. If I want software packages through them it’s in a container. the entire linux community needs to get on top of these malware distribution platforms.

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>>109097383
Help, I'm retarded!
>Find DVD-R in house
>"Wtf is this?"
>pull out cd player
>hook it up to pc (Xubuntu)
>put dvd in
>see this
>"oh its a movie"
>open up mpv to play
>realize I don't know how to use mpv to play a dvd
>"wait, couldn't I just click cds back in the day and they would play?"
>poke around a bit on google
>get suspicious
>eject dvd turn cd player around
>cd player is actually a dvd writer
It's been so long since I've used CDs with my computer that I've completely fucking forgotten how to do any of this shit. So can I play this dvd from my computer or do I need to get a cd/dvd player drive to hook up?

>>109098656
wow. uh. yeah. dvd writers are just cd/dvd readers with write capability. play the whole disk in mpv it should work.

>>109098700
>play the whole disk in mpv it should work.
How do I do that though?

>>109098403
Sleeper accounts are a thing. One of the accounts that converted packages into malware was registered a few years ago. AUR is completely unsafe at this point.

>>109098711
wherever you mount the disk to, you open that directory in mpv, like

mpv /path/to/disc

>>109098729
I tried mpv dvd://, mpv dvd:// inside the dvd writer directory, and what you just suggested and it didn't play and exited every single time.

>>109098749
try mpv . in the directory.

>>109098656
if pic is the contents then it's a not a video dvd

>>109098760
Okay
>>109098775
What is it then? It's written on a dvd-r

>>109098749
you could try reading the output of the mpv command to see if it says why it closed immediately, but I can respect the effort of a blind troubleshooter too. you’ll get it just keep trying stuff until it works

>>109098808
it's a linux livecd. isolinux is a common linux bootloader for cd/dvd and casper is a common method of turning filesystems into something bootable from read-only media (i.e. a livecd).

>>109098848
I think you're right, its SamuraiWTF. I googled it and its some sort of open source security software sandbox thingy?
>>109098814
It isn't a dvd despite being on a dvd lol.

Also I accidentally unplugged the dvd player and now Xubuntu won't redetect it for some reason D:

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>>109098808
>>109098848
also, video dvd's always contain a VIDEO_TS folder, it's required by the dvd standard

>>109098862
Anon, that's windows...

>>109098856
>It isn't a dvd despite being on a dvd lol.
i'm curious to know what level of exposure to dvd's it takes to be aware of them as movie discs but somehow still not knowing they are used for things besides standard dvd video.
like, even if you're pretty young you've probably still played like an xbox 360... that uses dvds for the games

>>109098897
it's a folder listing, what os it displaying it isn't relevant

>>109098910
>like, even if you're pretty young you've probably still played like an xbox 360... that uses dvds for the games
-- or even if not, this would imply you haven't used a cd for anything but music (or at all) and not any other kind of optical disc for anything but video, which i find unlikely unless you're literally underage

>>109098286
Try installing d3dx9 d3dcompiler_43 with protontricks

>>109098948
That did the trick.

>>109098910
>>109098929
Am I not allowed to be old and forgetful these days?

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>>109097383
>update endeavourOS
>it's now titan

>>109097383
One of the most annoying things about linux is the fact that when you unplug then replug something back in the os doesn't bother to rescan devices input or maybe the usb drive doesn't flag the OS or it does flag but the OS doesn't do anything with it.

>>109099002
not him but if you want an idea on how he came up with that, if a game doesn't start, one thing i might do is run it with;

WINEDEBUG="loaddll" wine program.exe

this will make wine print out each dll it loads and if they're builtin (part of wine) or external (not part of wine/provided with the software)
though this by itself only really helps if you're familiar with swapping out specific dll's like d3dcompiler_43/47, etc, this can help in searching at least until you become more familiar with them

>>109099039
not trying to make fun of you, just that if a media player doesn't play an unknown disc my first thought would be maybe it's not a movie, regardless of what files are on it (i don't expect people to know what the file structure of a dvd video is)

>>109099061
it does, but this can become complicated if something was using the drive, like if you unplug something while it's mounted it may only go away once nothing is using the mount

>>109099039
They forgot that this is supposed to be a friendly thread

>>109099067
>just that if a media player doesn't play an unknown disc my first thought would be maybe it's not a movie
Fair but its also the weekend and I spent last night sleeping on the carpet instead of my bed.
I'm not trying to troubleshoot why my system isn't registering the player anymore.

>>109099083
ouch. i'm actually really hungover myself so i'm probably coming off worse than i usually intend to be

>>109097383
If I wanted to emulate Windows XP on a Linux system that's running an AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (12) @ 3.600GH with 32019MiB of memory how laggy would it be? If it's unusable what Window's OS could I use?

>>109099140
With qemu and kvn, probably pretty fast, but not sure on the 3D acceleration support.

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>>109099002
Neat
>>109099067
I just looked for the err: lines and saw that d3dcompiler thing, assumed it needed d3dx9 (maybe d3dx9_43 would've worked)

>>109099269
in most if not all cases you don't need the full d3d9 from winetricks, just the particular dll the game is loading

>>109098286
Some games are strange, I have an identical prefix but some game fails to run with umu run and ge-proton but it works if I run it wine and same ge-proton.
Or vice versa.
Usually there isn't that many problems for example some games (RE9) from Capcom detect if they are not on native Windows.

An update to MESA/RADV in 2023 saw shader processing speed increase 50,000% (yes that's the actual number).

Since then I haven't pre cached shaders nor have I had shader stutter.

Infact when playing games that precompile shaders in windows for example Abiotic factor I was waiting for my friend on windows to join the game and he said he was almost finished. I had no idea what was finishing until I asked and he said he was compiling shaders. It took him like 3-4 minutes to get done with a screen I didn't even see as the shaders compiled before the loading bar could even load.

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just getting into setting up peripherals with udev rules. How do you include both mouse and dongle? second file or second line or something? can't find anything about it

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>>109099717
you can add multiple lines and comments in udev rules

>>109098073
Someone is already six feet next to you by that point, which is an even bigger vulnerability, anon.

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>>109099835
so just like that?
still can't seem to update firmware from the web interface

>>109099867
you'd have to reload/trigger the rules manually since you've only just put them in there

>>109099886
>sudo udevadm control --reload-rules
>sudo udevadm trigger
yeah I did that. might just do the walk of shame to my brothers windows laptop and do it there I guess...
curse the chinese

>>109099911
did you confirm if the devices' device node files have changed mode? i can see the rule is intended to relax permissions on a couple devices though i'm not familiar with what you're doing specifically

>>109099911
>>109099946
also if it's just a one-off thing you can just use "chmod" on the device nodes directly. making udev rules for this is only if you want this to be permanent (survive reboots)

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>>109099946
>>109099957
you may be surprised to find out that I dont know what the fuck I'm doing.
my new keychron keyboard was not detected through the web setup so I dug up udev rules for that, which made it work. I then copy pasted those for my mouse which I previously couldn't get working and replaced vendor and product ID
>KERNEL=="hidraw*", SUBSYSTEM=="hidraw", ATTRS{idVendor}=="373b", ATTRS{idProduct}=="1085", MODE="0660", GROUP="iputmyuserhere", TAG+="uaccess", TAG+="udev-acl"
I would like to hop into these settings at any point and change dpi or uopdate the firmware. hence the udev rules

>>109100023
not either of those anons but what is the make and software of the mouse? Also why didn't you look this up before switching over?

>>109097635
Briefcase

>>109100280
VXE V2 or something. it's a 25€ mouse I got from aliexpress and I'm very happy with it overall.
I can also change dpi profiles from the dongle it's just that I can't update the firmware which needs connection via cable and the dpi isn't consistent between dongle and cable.
I thought as long as it doesn't need a windows program and can be setup via browser I'm good as linux user

>>109097488
> muh .asoundrc

congrats on discovering what pulseaudio did a decade ago

>>109097733
> be me, want a rofi alternative

just use dmenu with extensions or write your own script, everything else is bloat

Are there any music players like Elisa on Linux that aren't reliant on Qt/KDE?
I've always felt many music players whether on Linux or Windows have always felt bad to use, Elisa seems to really have the perfect interface but I don't know if there's anything similar. Seems like most in my experience seem to be trying to do too much with a very text and menu oriented setup that doesn't make much sense to me. One of the rare times I'd say "modern" just makes more sense here

Speaking of sound, is there anything better than pulseaudio or pipewire or w/e the fuck its called? I'm tired of hearing crackling from my video games.

>>109101204
Pipewire is the current used one with it using a Pulseaudio emulation layer when needed.

What was text editing really like back in the day?
Did you really have to use programs like ed where you had to interact with the file a line at a time and leave gaps of 10 between lines so you could insert more text between those lines?

>>109101414
I mean vi still existed, plus nano's senpai pico.

>>109101028
hence the pic related

>>109101401
Then why is it still so shit?

>>109101551
Most don't seem to have that much issue with it?

>>109101555
Then why am I having issues with it? What are common reasons for bottlenecking and audio crackling and distortions?

>>109101559
Usually it's because the PW buffer size is too small or your CPU frequency/powersaving governors are too strict.
Try running pw-top and looking at the error column to see if it starts to show data when the crackles happen, if so that usually means your buffer is too small and you need to enlarge it.

i'm having fun with linux, guys
even though i'm doing things that could've been done on windows
it just put me in the right mood to write shell scripts

>>109101414
>Did you really have to use programs like ed
yes
>where you had to interact with the file a line at a time
the editing commands can operate on multiple lines
to delete the first line you type 1d
to delete from the first to the tenth you type 1,10d
>and leave gaps of 10 between lines so you could insert more text between those lines?
to add text after the tenth line you type 10a

>>109101444
>>109101814
What did it feel like to edit text like that?
Did you dread editing text files? Are you glad we have interactive text editors today?

Just got a second hand dell laptop, what distro should i put on it g?
Its a dell 15, 3535, ryzen 5. Got it for $200, pretty happy about that seeing its only a 2 year old laptop and it is A condition.

>>109101863
gentoo

>>109101863
That laptop can run any current distro.

>>109101870
Ok, ill post back with a screenshot after ive compiled and built everything in a weeks time.

>>109101893
>in a weeks time
That's very optimistic of you...

>>109101840
>What did it feel like to edit text like that?
install ed and read this:
https://maibriz.de/unix/ultrix/_root/edtut.pdf
>Did you dread editing text files? Are you glad we have interactive text editors today?
im a zoomer... only people that are now very old had to use ed

>>109101893
you can use binary packages for most things, and if you want a specific use flag on some packages you can compile them

>>109101414
ed is the silent generation editor. Back then they were often working from a hard copy of the file and using a line printer as their terminal. tty is short for teletype.

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>>109101840

i got hired by a company that had guys coding with that vim shit on ubuntu server mini pcs
just use regular ides, you nerds

>>109086893
reupdated to plasma 6.7 today, and everything looks good
bug fixes ftw

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>>109101893
>>109101898
Had an Intel Ivy Bridge laptop 10 years ago, put Gentoo in it with Gnome, Firefox, Thunderbird, Libreoffice and what have you.
The compilation took a literal 24 hours as I fired it up all at once.

>>109102309
yeah but it worked right?

help a thirdie retard brother out
>Bluetooth dongle is cheap CSR chink shit, I have to plug it in and out every time I boot the PC, sometimes it regularly refuses to connect to devices because the dongle isn't trusted or something. I used chatgpt and the fix is basically just forgetting the device and connecting to it again on the terminal, I do it every couple of weeks
>media keys on my cheap chink keyboard don't work because they use mac bindings, I used chatgpt to help me fix this and now they work but the caps-lock is now absolutely retarded and refuses to switch unless i keep holding the caps-lock for like 3/4 seconds which is abysmal

didn't have these issues on winblows but I don't plan to go back either

>>109102393
You need to read and learn case by case basis, don't follow ai advice blindly because it will create more problems than solve them.
In order to solve the device issue you need read logs. sudo dmesg and journalctl -b. Take note of everything usb related.

>>109102309
This is the funniest fucking image I have ever seen in my life.

>>109102456
Probably because its true, have you seen htop?

What's the terminal command to put Xubuntu into sleep mode? The option to do so vanished from the gui menu.

>>109102467
yeah but I don't use gnome shit.
I know it's an absolute pig though.

>>109100023
check if the mode has changed to see if the tool you're using will work at all. i'm not familiar with the tool you're using.
example;

$ ls -l --dereference /dev/input/by-id/usb-Logitech_USB_Receiver-hidraw
crw------- 1 root root 241, 3 May 14 18:19 /dev/input/by-id/usb-Logitech_USB_Receiver-hidraw

here you can see the mode is "crw------" which means it's a character device file, with read/write permissions for root, and no permissions for any other user. the "root root" after it means it's owned by the root user and the root group

you can change the mode (permissions) using;

# chmod --dereference 0660 /dev/input/by-id/usb-Logitech_USB_Receiver-hidraw
$ ls -l --dereference /dev/input/by-id/usb-Logitech_USB_Receiver-hidraw
crw-rw---- 1 root root 241, 3 May 14 18:19 /dev/input/by-id/usb-Logitech_USB_Receiver-hidraw

this effectively add read/write permission to the group that owns the file. the group is still root however, so...

# chown --dereference :$USER /dev/input/by-id/usb-Logitech_USB_Receiver-hidraw
$ ls -l --dereference /dev/input/by-id/usb-Logitech_USB_Receiver-hidraw
crw-rw---- 1 root username 241, 3 May 14 18:19 /dev/input/by-id/usb-Logitech_USB_Receiver-hidraw

this changes the group that owns the file to your user's group, so now any user in your group can read/write the file

this is what the udev rule does, just manually.
note: "--dereference" in these is important as the files in /dev/input/by-id/ are symlinks, and we don't care to change the symlink itself, rather what it points to, that's what --dereference does

>>109102501
systemctl suspend

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>>109098142
>>109098154

How is is compared to spectacle? Looking online I don't really see any real difference except the design of the program

>>109103549
Spectacle is more focused on being Wayland native, so if you use something like modern KDE then Spectacle is actually a better choice overall compared to Flameshot. Though you can't add things to the image before taking the shot in Spectacle like you can in Flameshot, you gotta add stuff afterwards.

>>109103558
It also does screen recording now too which is really useful.

>>109103571
How the hell do people get the screen recording to work? It just does nothing for me. Screenshots work normally

>>109103759
I believe it needs VAAPI. I'm not sure. I didn't have to do anything to make it work. If you're using NVIDIA then my guess is it might be broken there.

Maybe in the future they'll re-write it to use Vulkan Video Encoding or something.

>>109103762
Oh yeah it might be a nvidia problem, shit

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How to cleanly remove a DE on Debian? As if that tasksel task was never selected at install time.

What's the best LLM for troubleshooting linux problems?

>>109103897
Claude or Gemini

>>109103897
Any of them can really, just make sure you're using one that can search up shit to make the help more modern, like Google'e AI Mode/Gemini.

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>>109103558
>you can't add things to the image before taking the shot in Spectacle like you can in Flameshot
It's been a while since I used Flameshot, but I think Spectacle can do most of the basics now.
Drawing (freehand/lines/arrows/squares/circles), highlight, pixelate, blur, text, and incremental numbers.

>>109104108
I see, then Spectacle really is the better choice in a Wayland environment then.

Completely lost here, I haven't seriously used Linux in years, I've been thinking about using Debian, I got it burned on my USB stick already but I don't know which DE to pick or WM to pick though I'm more into WMs, back then I would use bspwm but there's probably new and better WMs that are out already, I just want something that looks simple and that uses the least amount of resources.

>>109104223
If you want to use a WM again then you should use something like Hyprland or Sway, maybe Wayfire. Though I dunno what the latest Debian ISOs come with DE-wise to pick from.

>>109104251
I just want something in the stable side of things but I've never heard such names before, is dwm from suckless still relevant? If there's better than Debian I am willing to look into it more.

>>109104297
dwm isn't really that relevant anymore, no.

Is is worth putting systemd-journald to only log to memory if using an ssd? I can change the config to use: Storage=volatile

I rarely need to check it and if I do, 99% of the time it's for something that happened during the current boot so those logs will be in memory.

i just got a weird bug on the kde plasma login
when typing the password for some reason the numbers turned into fractions
wtf is this shit?

>>109104522
Sounds like your login system font is fucked.

>>109103764
I can 100% confirm for you that it's a nvidia exclusive problem. It does work in some of the older driver versions, but we are talking quite old here.

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Bazzite or Nobara?

Also any Linux distro like Arch that makes you completely set up every single aspect of its installation yourself should be torched immediately.

>>109104963
Just for that: Cachy

my dmesg suddenly started showing this message:

[ 4573.582507] pcieport 0000:00:01.3: PME: Spurious native interrupt!
[ 4573.582511] pcieport 0000:00:01.3: PME: Spurious native interrupt!

repeated endlessly and its filling up the drive with the logging, how do i start diagnosing this?

>>109105052
Well for starters it would probably be relevant to figure out what that PCI-E port contains.

>>109105052
dmesg writes to a file?

>>109105089
dmesg reads from file. Filling up drive with logging seems weird tho, since as far as I know the ringbuffer is finite not infinite.

>>109105052
The thing connected to this PCIE port keeps sending wake/interrupt calls. Find out what 0000:00:01.3 actually is with lspci.

>>109105110
ring buffer isn’t even on a drive

>>109105149
syslog should write it on drive.

>>109101186
Audacious

>>109103897
Gemini

>>109103897
>Get dick out
>AI Waifu: "Ew, why are you getting your dick out? Put it away."
>Put dick away
>AI Waifu: "Wow, am I not sexy enough for you: Pull your dick out!"
I just wanted to say that it emulates female behavior very well.

>>109104108
>Anon gets bored and plays wargames by himself on the /flg/ board.

>>109105080
>>109105089
>>109105135
I added the pcie=aspm=off kernel parameter and it fixed the logging spam but I'm not sure what caused it in the first place, lspci shows that it was likely the extra pcie USB Controller card I have installed, nothing is plugged into it though and it doesn't seem loose
>>109105110
I had a script with openrc to write every dmesg output to a file for the previous session data

>>109103897
Any of them that don't require an account like chatgpt

>>109104963
Just use regular fedora

>>109104658
Good news, I fixed it. Now I can record some dumb shit

>Send a process to the background with CTRL+Z
>Interrupt the process with kill -s 2
>I can't exit from the terminal for some reason unless I run jobs
Why is that?

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How do people make their linux installs look cool as hell? KDE plasma looks decent but it could also look alot better. Do I need a degree in programming to rice cachy?

>>109105724
it’s a waste of time but maybe in your case time isn’t valuable

>>109105724
I'm hoping that the work they've been doing on reviving oxygen theme will make it look better than the current breeze theme

>>109105752
Oh yeah that could be cool, hope it'll turn out nicely

>>109105777
The only thing i dont really like about oxygen was the icon theme

>>109105724
>Do I need a degree in programming to rice Catchy
No, they just know the programs they need to make things look cool, though I will point out that "cool" looking GUI distros eat a lot more resources than minimalist GUIs like Windows Managers or CLIs if you are unhinged enough to want to run one.

>>109105724
>the last thing my toilet sees after I come home form work

>>109104565
i dont think its the font
eveytime i typed a number the suggestions box would show up
i dont know wtf is the problem, i dont see people reporting this bug anywhere
using the numpad works but not the other numbers on the keyboard

>>109106222
is kde plasma in that class of 'cool' looking'?

I'm considering running Arch in my main machine. I don't plan on using the AUR and I don't need anything that's not on the repos or as a flatpak.
I want to setup full disk encryption and some way to rollback the system if some update shits everything up.
How much effort will I have to dedicate doing sysAdmin work?
Alternatively, how's fedora these days? Should I go for an immutable flavor?

>open volume mixer
>lower the volume
>randomly resets to 100% volume

arch btw

>>109104963
For gaming? Bazzite.
For anything else: vanilla Fedora.

>>109107759
you can spend a little extra effort setting up tpm / systemd-cryptenroll for root encryption, but it’s probably easier to just use systemd-homed on an ext4 partition for home user specific encryption. you don’t really need root encryption but with tpm cryptenroll and secure boot you never have to touch it again. btrfs for snapshots but realistically ext4 and timeshift is probably just as good for snapshots.
no I will not explain further.

hello my fellow linux users which music player do you recommend?

>>109108796
MPV if you know how to use terminal
DeaDBeeF if you prefer gui.

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>includes an installer
>minimal by default
>fast
>so stable the ISS uses it
>extremely secure
>has basically any package you would ever need
>anything it doesnt have is offset by a flatpak
>worst case scenario if a driver or toolset isnt up to date for your needs you can just backport it
literally why would you use anything else

What’s the best gpu and cpu temperature monitor for Linux?
I don’t remember mint xfce or fedora kde having those by default so I’m unsure at the moment.

>>109108823
I’d rather use selinux than apparmor so for a “security” first I’d pick a rhel based distro

>>109108824
>don’t remember mint xfce
xfce has one and its called xfce4-sensors-plugin, you'll need to download libsensors for it to work though.

>>109108823
can I install kernel 7.0.1 on it yet?

>>109108796
Strawberry is good for large local music collections.
Fooyin is great if you want a foobar2k style player native to Linux.
Deadbeef, Audacious and Tauon are good simple players.
And terminal wise there's cmus and mpd+ncmpcpp, and otherwise there's the ones that comes with DEs like KDE and GNOME like Elisa and Rhythmbox which do the job.

>>109108849
No, it has malware on it.

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>>109108849

>>109108860
>backports
yikes...

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>>109108849
You can be comfy on 7.0.13
Or upgrade to 7.1.1 if you want

>>109108839
Thanks!

Lastly as silly as it sounds, does a gaming focused distro technically mean it will be good for production related software that will need more resources like blender?
I wanna do some blender and cad and 3d printing stuff so I’m also looking at Prusa.

>>109108873
>kitty
SAR!!!! DO NOT REDEEM SAR!!!!! HOW DARE YOU ASK FOR A VERY COMMON TERMINAL FEATURE SAAAAARRRRRR!!!! LET ME JUST KEYLOG ALL YOUR INPUTS SARRR!!!
Also I like your Terminal font.

>>109108887
>terminal font
thanks
>kitty keylogger
wtf are you talking about?

>>109108883
>Lastly as silly as it sounds, does a gaming focused distro technically mean it will be good for production related software that will need more resources like blender?
Maybe, are you doing 3d shit in blender?
>Anon, Blender is only in 3d...
I don't use Blender but if that's the case then maybe because it might have the dependencies you needed already downloaded by default, but you can run blender on any linux os because they are all crazy efficient compared to windows, assuming you have the dependencies.
I have no idea if Blender even runs on Linux natively.

>>109108849
Skip straight to 7.1.1

>>109108900
>wtf are you talking about?
>He doesn't know
lmfao, you got jeeted and you didn't even know it. Absolutely naan'd!!!! You should look up Kitty when you have some time on you hands.

>>109108907
>kitty
I'm looking. I'm not finding evidence of a keylogger. More info please?

>>109108911
Keylogger was a shitpost, but the maintainer of Kitty is a fucking retard who leaves your wifi ports open so its easy for someone to monitor your inputs without root access across the internet.
>Kitty connects to the internet?
Yup
>Why?
We still don't know why but its sus enough to avoid.

>>109108873
what is the best way to install sid btw?

>>109108911
Anon's being an idiot. Kitty doesn't have a keylogger in a malicious sense, though it does have an automatic updater which pings a server and a setting to allow for remote usage, which to some can both be abused by bad actors. Though you can easily disable those two features by adding
>allow_remote_control no
>update_check_interval 0
to your kitty.conf file.

>>109108927
>>allow_remote_control no
Wasn't it proven that it can still be switched on at server prompting/request?

>remote control to a terminal
why use this instead of ssh?

>>109108920
Stable, change sources.list, do full upgrade.
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#Installation
>>109108919
>wifi ports
What do you mean? I'm not seeing kitty listening on any ports. Are you talking about remote control, which is opt-in?
>Kitty connects to the internet
How do I demonstrate this?
>>109108927
>allow_remote_control
See above
>update_check_interval
Thanks I'll look into it

Just so you guys aren't aware
>terminal doesn't need to be gpu accelerated unless you are ricing
>terminal SHOULD NEVER connect to the internet unless you explicitly type in a command to start a program that uses terminal to connect to the internet, such as a text reader.

>>109107759
>full disk encryption and some way to rollback the system
opensuse tumbleweed does this out of the box. luks+btrfs+snapper+systemd-boot with a built in script for adding snapshots as boot entries.
this could be set up for arch as well but i couldn't be bothered to and decided to just install opensuse about a week ago.
besides the external codecs repo, and manually looking for oneapi dependencies on the intel repo for opensuse to get blender and quicksync working, everything's been doing just fine. hope this system lasts me like arch did

>>109108854
>Fooyin

Damn that looks pretty good

>>109108942
Usually the exploited ports are unopen public ports to innocous system functions which is then exploited to gain root access or to "bounce around" (aka frag) to access information through that port that you aren't supposed to access through that port.

>>109108947
Kitty Terminal has a lot of vulnerabilities, even to this day, that the creator just kinda brushes off or fixes way later. He is constantly behind the ball when it comes to security and for a terminal that automatically connects to the internet to ping for updates, that isn't a good look.
You could try Ghosty or Alacritty if you really want a GPU accelerated terminal. I think there is a beta terminal that came out recently called Ratty that can display 3d images, and the cursor is a spinning rat.

>>109106222
Understandable, I'm not planning on anything insane, just want the taskbar to look nice and maybe make opened windows look slightly transparent

>>109108969
>for a terminal that automatically connects to the internet to ping for updates, that isn't a good look.
That's literally just

curl example.org/version.txt

.
You're being melodramatic.

Reasons why sudo pacman -Syu would be returning no packages to update if my plasma is on 6.6.5 and not 6.7?

>>109108976

YOU'VE
BEEN
NAAN'D, CURRIED, JETTED, AND DARE I SAY, STREET SHEETED!!!

>>109108979
I refuse to respond to this more boring version of your previous post.

>>109107229
Yes, there's a lot of people here who jerk off to it, and its a good place to start ricing cause there's a ton of presets and guides you can follow to learn how to do it.
>>109108972
Yeah, you can probably do that with what you're running now if you poke around in the settings.

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I'm just gonna leave this hear because people are talking about terminals

>>109109000
What's this measuring? This is a fucking awful graph.

>>109109007
average dick length in inches of its users, probably.

>>109109007
how fast it processes a benchmark command, and if it makes you feel better its also very old and considered out of date.

>>109109015
Yeah, I can tell. If anyone makes an updated version then label the thing it's measuring (including whether bigger numbers or smaller numbers are better). Also fix the axis properly, the highest number on that graph is 44 but the X-axis only goes up to 10.

>>109108969
Thanks anon good to know. I will try to move away from Kitty.

>>109109030
I moved away from kitty because the dev gives me lennart pöttering vibes.

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>none of them are using linux

>install ubuntu 26.04 on my mother computer so she can watch youtube, read emails, edit documents and print stuff
>every video including youtube is stuttering
>look up what is going on
>known issue with the current ubuntu kernel
>update kernel to the proposed one
>system randomly freeze the screen, only way to fix is unplugging and plugging back the hdmi cable
>look up what is going on
>amd flip bit error or whatever
>known issue of a race condition on the kernel happening since 6.12
enterprise OS btw

>>109109007
not him but here's the source;
https://martin.ankerl.com/2007/09/01/comprehensive-linux-terminal-performance-comparison/
it's just how many seconds to cat a long text file. it's from 2007 though so useless today (like that'll be gnome2's gnome-terminal and kde3's konsole)

>>109109097
>enterprise OS
those don't have such problems

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Does running a pirated game over Steam / Bottles make the performance worse? I'm sure alot of newer games have shitty performance in general because UE5 is hot dogshit.

>>109109097
You do know Canonical isn't responsible for the AMDGPU driver, right?

>>109109164
technically yes compared to original steam game because steam ships the compiled shaders to you, but if the game compile shaders itself there is no difference

>>109109164
If you use pre-installs then it should just feel like you're playing a normal Steam release if you run it through umu-launcher/Faugus Launcher or Bottles.

>>109109168
both were kernel problems, the stuttering is happening with the live kernel, 7.0.0-16 or whatever, 7.0.0-22 fix it

>>109109190
Yeah, that can happen. They don't make the kernel, they just build it. They have their own patches, etc, but they're not AMDGPU developers.

>>109109195
maybe don't select a shitty kernel for you LTS release then, all those problems don't exist on 7.0.1

>>109109204
That's not their problem they froze on a buggy AMDGPU release though. That's what you get with an LTS release.
LTS has never meant free of bugs.

>>109109209
while I do agree with you, it feels bad, I know how to fix and search what is happening, some random noob installing linux for the first time is going to give up after the system runs like shit

>>109109243
It's not hard to install a mainline kernel if you need to:
https://kernel.ubuntu.com/mainline/daily/current/

But yeah, you do need to know a certain level of knowledge. You need to identify that the kernel is the issue and to search for how to update it and come across the right page.

Unfortunately, kernel bugs happen all the time and only a rolling release will help a noob out here, except then they might be exposed to other bugs and issues so you can't win there either.
At some point you just have to learn a certain level of troubleshooting and problem solving.

Everyone say you should update rolling release every week or so, but if my system is stable as a rock and I don't really need anything new is it really needed to upgrade?

>>109109277
Well if you want to keep a rolling distro not updated for a long enough time, you just need to remember to update your keyring first then do a full update so the update doesn't break, plus using something like rate-mirrors or ghostmirror to refresh your mirrorlist.

is noctalia any good?

>>109109181
>>109109183
I always though the performance gets worse because you run the game through a compatibility layer like proton.

>>109109303
One of the best Wayland WM shells currently IMO.

>>109109338
For a lot of games that actually seems the opposite and it runs better through Proton instead, like the early releases of Elden Ring famously.

Arriving at the wayland debate ten years too late. I'm on wayland now bit thinking of xlibre for the next de. Bit if I don't care about recording my desktop is wayland just better? X having to talk back and forth between everything doesn't seem great, but I won't pretend to understand architecture that much. And if we're not actually seeing any of this stuff, I doubt I would notice a delay, then whatever? It does sound not great though

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>>109108887
>>109108919
>>109108927
>>109109043
Switched from Kitty to Alacritty. Thanks

>>109109204
some distros like ubuntu and red hat don't name their kernels exactly like upstream does. namely the 7.0.0 will stay written as 7.0.0 even while being based on 7.0.X upstream versions

>>109109456
Why would recording your desktop matter if you did care? It just works nowadays. Did you try it?
Most desktops have built-in tools for it and of course OBS works too. That's not to say it can't be improved (it absolutely can, especially window capture) but it hasn't been a major issue for ages now.

I would suggest sticking to Wayland unless you have some very specific problem with it (for example, Xorg can still be better for some NVIDIA users because of the sorry state of their drivers. This is an NVIDIA issue, not a Wayland issue).
The two major desktops are already removing X11 support anyway, so if you use KDE or GNOME you won't exactly have a choice in the matter in the future.

>>109109484 (Me)
Alacritty doesn't do graphics. Back to Kitty I go.

>>109109539
There's a popular fork with sixel and iterm2 graphics support:
https://github.com/ayosec/alacritty

>>109109553
I'm purposely limiting myself to what is in Sid and nixpkgs repos. Working on getting Ghostty running from nixpkgs unstable.

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>>109109557
Seems like it's in Nix.

>>109109563
It fails. But I'm new to nixpkgs so I probably need to familiarise myself with it some more.

[nix-shell:~]$ alacritty 
Error: Error { raw_code: None, raw_os_message: None, kind: NotSupported("provided display handle is not supported") }

>>109108873
Benefits of using a specific mirror? deb.debian.org will use a nearby mirror.

>opening a folder/changing directory or opening a menu causes the background behind the window to bleed into the titlebar and remain there until the window is moved
I really should have waited longer before updating to KDE 6.7, this shit is annoying

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>>109102501
In Xfce you can remove/add those buttons in the logout dialog (if you have disabled hibernate and suspend in SystemD, they will still show as non-clickable buttons). Change to true to make them visible.

xfconf-query -c xfce4-session -p /shutdown/ShowSuspend --create --set false --type bool
xfconf-query -c xfce4-session -p /shutdown/ShowHibernate --create --set false --type bool
xfconf-query -c xfce4-session -p /shutdown/ShowHybridSleep --create --set false --type bool
xfconf-query -c xfce4-session -p /shutdown/ShowSwitchUser --create --set false --type bool
xfconf-query -c xfce4-session -p /shutdown/ShowSaveSession --create --set false --type bool

ShowSaveSession may have no effect in later Xfce versions. These settings should appear in the Settings Editor.

>>109110247
They're in Australia. The mirror is probably dog shit compared to using a local one.

>>109108796
I use Exaile. It's nice.

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how do i figure out what package is requiring this? im so confused as to what this even is (though obviously i want 30)

>>109110249
I can't reproduce that unless I misunderstand how you're getting it.

>>109110390
This is for OCR, spectacle has tesseract as a dependency. It's most likely spectacle. No clue what spectacle wants to do with it though.

>>109097754
I dont know. You tell us.

>>109110419
thanks, appreciated

>>109097754
Looks good, doesn't waste space.

>>109110419
>No clue what spectacle wants to do with it though.
Spectacle can extract text from a screenshot

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Even with suspend and hibernation intentionally disabled in SystemD, it bugs me the buttons simply don't disappear but rather end up in a non-interacting state.

>>109102309
>>109102467
Buckbroken idiots. I have 8gb and gnome runs fine, gnoke actually even runs fine on 4gb and HDD, can't say the same about KDE which is the most bloated garbage.

>also firefox
>thunderfag
>libreoffice
All bloated garbage with better alternatives.

>>109110441
KDE was fine on my Intel lynnfield i5 system with 8GB of RAM.

>>109104297
dwm has been replaced with dwl, just check these out. Niri is another famous one now.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Wayland#Compositors

>>109108796
Gapless (AKA: G4Music)
>>109108823
None of this is true.

>>109108796
mpv and folders

>>109109097
Install bluefin

>>109110441
I've run KDE on a Core2Duo with no issues. I'd definitely recommend 8 GB of RAM minimum though. Your web browser alone will end up using gigabytes of RAM. These days even Android smartphones struggle with 4GB of RAM, never mind a desktop.

So to anyone else on kde 67, theres a bug with how shits rendered. so if your cursor all of a sudden goes desaturated, you need to change your monitor to prefer colour accuracy rather than efficiency.

>>109110455
>was
When was that? Kde 4?
>>109110494
Ive nearly never ran into issues with 8gig, im not one of those tab troons with 100 tabs open at all times.

>>109110504
Do you also have the bug where videos in Mpv go desaturated too (also fixed be prefers colour accuracy)?
I can't tell if it's a KDE bug or an AMDGPU bug

>>109110515
Full screen videos I mean. It's fine windowed. I thought it might be some sort of direct scan out issue but I'm not sure.

>>109110515
not sure, but im also using amd. glad im not the only one with this issue

>>109110512
KDE 5 or 6. Don't remember which, it was 1 year and a few months ago on Arch Linux.

>>109110521
ok i tested in mpv and yeah full screen desaturates like mad

god what a half baked update. easy fix but only because i thought about what might be causing it and solved it myself

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>>109108980
Bad mirror, typical with Arch as mirrors are run by randos.
>>109110441
>Firefox
What are some lighter alternatives?

>>109110515
>>109110545
Mine is set to "prefer efficiency" and there is no difference between fullscreen and "windowed" in mpv. Does shift-i show something interesting?

>>109110546
>What are some lighter alternatives?
Brave origin, Orion, Falkon, gnome web.

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>>109110562
looks fine to me, but then again i dont really know what im looking at. I doubt its an issue with mpv, because my cursor will desaturate in brave unless i select prefer accuracy

>>109110356
From my understanding deb.debian.org uses fastly cdn that caches packages from mirrors. They have several POPs in Australia. In my experience of using specific mirrors I find some stop updating after a few months so you end up having apt telling you it's out of date. Obviously if you are in a fixed location with a reliable, longterm mirror I guess a custom mirror would work.

>>109110545
What kernel version are you on? I'm going to do more testing to see if I can find what causes it.

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>>109110249
>>109110400
It only does it if the window is snapped and not if it's floating. Seems to affect multiple KDE programs (Dolphin, Settings, Discover). If I open Discover and snap it to the right half of the screen and then press one of the menu options on the left (Installed, Updates, Settings etc) then pic related happens. It's a transparent line that takes on what's behind the window at the time (desktop background picture in this case). If I move the window or re snap it to the other side then it goes away.

>>109110691
7.0.12-arch1-1 (64-bit), here have some other specs in case theyre of use to you
i will note as well that i had this issue on fedora just a few days ago (plasma 6.7, idk the kernel version)

Operating System: Arch Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 6.7.0
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.27.0
Qt Version: 6.11.1
Kernel Version: 7.0.12-arch1-1 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: Wayland
Processors: 16 × AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 8-Core Processor
Memory: 64 GiB of RAM (62.7 GiB usable)
Graphics Processor: AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT
Manufacturer: ASUS

>>109110574
So I looked at some stuff and for me it works normally no matter what, even when I do wacky stuff with icc profiles. That is very clearly a HDR monitor, though, and mine is wide gamut not HDR. I know why I'm not affected by whatever this is, I don't know why you are.

Wide-gamut and HDR support is pretty spotty all around even without KDE/AMD driver bugs, I will say that much. For example if I got to https://www.wide-gamut.com/test then I can see the difference in everything with wide gamut (even some HDR stuff) in Vivaldi, but literally no difference in Falkon.

>>109110746
I have a HDR monitor for what it's worth but it was working flawlessly before. Not sure if it's a KWin issue or a kernel regression though. I'm going to try 7.1.1 and see if it's still bad and then I'll try bisecting KWin if it's still fucked. This is a recent issue.

>>109110762
Yeah there has been something changed, but I'm not sure when. MPV for me displays different in shift-i compared to before.

firefox hardware decoding stopped working
tested on mpv and its working fine
im on arch
can anyone else confirm this issue?

>>109110355
I looked into it an apparently there are processes the computer does that disables suspend or shutdown for some reason, I input the command to see what was blocking sleep/suspend but I didn't really understand it and all I know is that it was 3 instances of "Disk Management" blocking it and I didn't know how to kill or remove them since they all had the PID or 0 so I just forced shutdown and it fixed it.

>>109110441
>can't say the same about KDE which is the most bloated garbage.
>GNOME
>Not bloated
kek

>>109099167
Is there a guide to setting it up with a Windows OS? It looks a tad bit out of my depth.

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>>109110943
I actually managed to set it up but wtf does step 4 mean? Do I "log out" as in restart my system or "log out" as in log out of the current user session and log back in?

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what line in grub.cfg do i need to edit to mount all drivws on startup?
would have edited fstab directly but it keeps getting overwritten by fstab each boot so i have to go straight for grub.
using antix btw.

>>109111100
Grub doesn't mount drives. Make some systemd mount units and enable them if fstab is getting overriden by something.

>>109111114
how do i do that?

>>109111100
>overwritten by fstab
*overwritten by make-fstab

>>109111061
>log out of the current user session and log back in
Also can you not know whot Logout mean, even windows has this feature.

Freedum :DDDDDDD

https://youtu.be/8T5Y5hcSWEo