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what QHD oled monitor should i get my first choice was the MO27Q28G but apparently they sent a faulty batch to canada + we didn't get the glossy version so now i'm looking at the XG27AQDMGR but i hate that damn chin
>sitting on a 3600 and 3070 with a b450Dunno if I should stay put, or go to a 5800XT, and 5070. Intending on skipping AM5 regardless.I know the 5800x3D is coming, but I'm assuming UK prices will be diabolical here.
>>109105412as per your recommendations- Gigabyte Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming OC 16GB GDDR6 - instead of non-xt- 7800x3d - instead of 7700- Peerless Assassin 140 SE instead of the Arcticis the rest of the stuff ok? 850W, b650, 32gb 6000mhz 30cl, lian li 207i will undervolt the GPU, hopefully i wont break itit does run me 250$ more, so i need /g/ approval
>talking hardware with someone>bring up x3d chips>completely unprompted he starts complaining about how shit everything feels with AMD >has 7800x3d but says the 13600k felt better>month later buys a 7600x>no more stutters in games like POE2>everything feels better>switches back to x3d and stutters come back, RAM was tuned and detuned, OS reinstalled, same board and other hardware, same result>swaps back to 7600x and everything is fineI'm a bit of an Intel fanboy still but this baffled meHe isn't crazy right?
>>109106180btw the motherboard is marketed as Asus TUF GAMING B650E-E WIFI, but on Asus page, it says that chipset is actually b650, not -E. what a scam
>>109106181would help if they had some sort of performance testing tools that provide objective data or some such
>>109106181He's fallen victim to windows' shitty process scheduler. inter-ccd processes are a LOT slower than intra-ccd processes. Tell him to look up how to do cpu pinning, and run his games on the x3d ccd only
The hinge on my Sony WH-1000XM5 just broke, fucking piece of chinese shit.
>>109106255luckily popular products have replacement parts
>>109106022Jesus Christ how horrifying.
>>109106250That doesn't make a whole lot of sense considering neither CPU has dual CCDs
>>109106022Holy FUCK I want a 5090
>>1091062507800X3D is single CCD dough.
>>109106181>downgrades from 13600K to 7800X3D to 7600Xgigaretard
>>109106269i just bought the 40 dollar repair piece, its disgusting this product even has to exist
>>109106325yeah a part in my fiio headphones broke because shit design or some such, then the company made a revised version of them that fixes the shit part, too bad it costs double
>>109106100> the 5800x3D is comingAMD will produce quite a few of these, otherwise re-starting the production wouldn't even be worth it.Just wait until price drops from initial £399 or whatever to £265. Be patient.CPUs are not affected from the RAM and storage price hike.
>>109106286Not worth it. Wait for 6090 like everybody else owning a 4090.
zen 6 memory controller will be better than intel's and suddenly amd will have 100mb cache + the fastest ram at this point intel will have nothing but ecores messing up the scheduler and 300w power draw cpus
HAPPENINGNext generation of Amazon cloud gaming will have significantly less input lag and increased performanceits literally over for hardware chuds
>>109106421that's greati'll buy one of those once they're available in stores and not anon's fan fiction blog
>>109106425How will Amazon improve my shitty internet connection?
>>109103707>1440p 240hz 27" IPS will give you a better experience than anything more expensive.1440p is a meme for anything that's not vidyaNo media is made in 1440p, everything is 1080p or 4K
>>109106404>Wait for 6090If you think the 5090 was pricey just wait. You could probably buy three msrp 4090s instead.
>want to get into 4k>research current monitors>find some reason they're shit>end up sticking with 1080pAnd so the cycle continues. Still using a 15yo 1080p60 lcd monitor on my 6k rig kek
>>109106490MSRP is pointless, the 5090 currently sells for around $4k and I expect the 6090 to do as well, so if you can afford a 5090 you will be able to afford a 6090.
>>1091066216090 will go down to 24 gigs of ram to keep the same msrp as the 5090.
>>109106625For gayming it doesn't fucking matter, the ps6/xbox720 will be 24g machines so you'll be set for the next 10 years
>>109106621Why would a 6090 cost as much as a 5090? like you said MSRP is pointless. It will probably be 3k for the founders and 4k for AIB and 5k for the street value of both.
>>109106625If they do that I could sell my 5090 for a 6090 and still have money left over.
>>109106655Because like>>109106625 said I fully expect them to make the 6090 a 24gb card due to "costs"
Any indicators of memory prices returning to normal?
>>109106605I'm getting this when it comes out this summer:https://www.pcworld.com/article/3151419/alienwares-new-39-inch-oled-monitor-is-a-glorious-ultrawide-monster.htmljoin me, anon
>>109106806For me it's pic related
>>109106022>computer building was so cheap in 2015 you could laugh about destroying your fucking shit
>>109106793No. But OPENAI IPO in the near future may be the catalyst to the popping of the AI bubble, which frankly is the only event that may cause the dram to fall off in price.
ACK DA BURN IN
>>109106806I also gonna get a 5k2k 39".Not sure if Alienware though, maybe LG.I'm not in a hurry, I got a 4k 32" as main display atm.
>>109106660Over half the people buying 5090s are buying them for their vram. It m I ght get the ai bros to finally switch over to rtx pro cards.
>>109106660> 6090 a 24gb cardNot going to happen. It will be only even more expensive not less VRAM, probably the same 32GB though, not more.
are seagate SSDs also bad or is it just the HDDs?
>>109106022Is it true pcie 5 ssds have enough thermal concerns that I should buy pcie 4 instead?990 Pro vs 9100 ProSN850X vs SN8100I'm looking to buy a 4TB that has in-house memory controller
I am making a PC to sell. I have the itch to build something.SpecsGPU: 9070 XT 16GBCPU: 7800X3DRAM: 32GB DDR5 Corsair Vengeance RBG SSD: 2TB Crucial Gen 4 NVMe M.2PSU: darkFlash 850W Perfect MostMoBo: ASUS B650E MAX WIFIAIO: Thermalite Frozen Infinity 360 BlackIs there anything interesting I can do with the build to make it more appealing to buyers? What would be a good selling price for a build like this?
>>109107169I have 2 seagate hdds that are 10 and 14 years old and I beat them up pretty bad and they are still working
>>109107364If your motherboard has heatsinks a good airflow, no.And that's only an issue if you're planning to do massive file transfers constantly.
>>109106022>Put together a new gaming/AI build>Prices are still spiked to hell>5080 -> 1.3k+, 5090 4k~>7900 prices are around 1k~ ROCm is apparently still pretty rough>5080 probably can't do more than 14B models>Dig around for whether or not there are rumblings of new releases>Nothing significant at least until a year from nowAm I missing something or is everyone just hoping for the AI bubble to pop so companies mass dump their old GPUs?
>>109107417Just wait 5 years and you will be able to find used 5090s in the dumpster when datacenters throw them away.
>>109106250> muh process scheduler blame game. just pin it to ccd0 and move on.
>>109107429Fair, I guess the debate I'm having is >Buy 5090>Does everything right now but it's expensive>Buy 5080>Does mostly everything right now, isn't cheap, wait until next gen, sell 5080 and buy a 6090.>Buy 7900 >MORE VRAM>Everything else is worse>saves 400.I just don't really see prices getting better.
>>109107364If you’re constantly reading and writing to them server-style, then maybe. But casual use doesn’t heat them up.
>>109106425> they say that every year and it still feels like playing through a dial-up modem
>>109107490Once you get used to the lag, and everyone else is playing with the lag as well, it will feel normal.
>>109107453I’ve been learning more about local llm’s recently. I have a 5070ti and 32gb 7200mt/s system ram. Qwen and Gemma recently released MoE models (35b and 26b parameters) that run really well on my 5070ti, even at q8. The next step up (27b and 31b dense models, respectively) run slowly on my pc but I’ve been told that even a 5090 won’t run them with long context. The MoE models are exceptional for local models, so you won’t really be missing out on a ton if you get the 5080. But we’re talking mini-models in the grand scheme of things, you’d need to drop $10k+ at least to run the bigger models.
>>109107378>>109107458gemini is telling me pcie4 uses 1-2w meanwhile pcie5 uses 6+, and even if you aren't hitting high speeds, there's still background optimizations that keep ambient temps kind of high due to that baseline990 Pro / 9100 Pro is a huge fucking premium and the price gap between those 2 aren't even that huge, but I'm scared pcie5 will just heat up my whole pc even when idling doing nothing
>>109107546My Gen 5 drive is sitting at 34C and that with minor gaming, youtube and chrome running. These things are built to run at 80C constantly for years.
>>109107373Gemini is more useful than you losers.
>>109107624I stopped using ai when I was building my pc this year because the outputs were unreliable.
US, what's a decent $1500 build at the moment, if that's even a realistic budget anymore lol
>>109107674I mean, the advice it just gave on how to make the build look more premium was pretty spot on.>>109107684If you live near a microcenter, and are willing to gamble on Aliexpress for a 500$ 9070XT, I made this build >>109107373 for $1300. If you really want a Nvidia GPU you will probably have to go slightly over $1500 if you want something good.
why do people pretend the second you connect a unsupported OS to the internet it's going to get compromised as if firewalls haven't been a thing for nearly 26 years now ?
>9100 Pro 4TB nvme>$800>870 Evo 4TB sata>$1250
>>109107706IDKit's not even really a firewall thing, it's just being behind a router makes any OS reasonably secure provided you're doing the right things
>>109107429There's no way a 5090 will still work in 5 years
>>109107742SATA users deserve every bit of their pain IMO
>PowerColor doesn't offer a warranty if you buy a new GPU through Amazon via Woot, which is an Amazon-owned subsidiaryWhat the fuck?
What is the ACTUAL best 120mm radiator fan?
>>109107767Noctua, but there are 20 other brands half the price and 95 percent the quality.
>>109107761>Products on Woot are never announced beforehand. Sales models on Woot means that defective products cannot be replaced, only refunded.Basically Amazon cheaped out. But you can buy 2 year warranty for $20 more from them.
>>109107761The retailer has to offer RMA for warranty to be considered and Woot doesn't.
>>109106022>*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pIS $1000 enough for a decent 1080p build? I'm from flipland and prices seem fucked, 9060XT 16gb is like 29,000 and that's around $476~, what the fuck can I even buy for $524? I'm assuming $200 will go to Storage.
>>109107540Acquire AI Ryzen Max/Mac with high memory/RTX Spark if you want one machine to run AI models bigger than what a 5090 can handle but don't want to spend more than 3 to 5k
i need to get a sense of scalewhat's the size of everyone's C: drive?
>>109108034A humble 16.34TB of storage is all I have. But it's enough. I'll fill it all with games soon enough.
>>109108034C drive is not that big desu
>>109107706>build my own 5090, 9800x3d, 64gb ram build>comes to like 6k~ excluding OS, ssd>find this prebuilt by corsair>5.6k for the same thing, plus 2x 2tb ssds>The 5090 priced in this prebuilt is like 3.3k~ if you subtract all the other parts of it outIt feels weird for the prebuilt option to be reasonably priced, and actually good. Am I missing something?https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/gaming-computers/cs-9050120-na/vengeance-a7500-gaming-pc-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-geforce-rtx-5090-64gb-ddr5-4tb-m-2-ssd-win11-home-cs-9050120-na?position=1&queryID=2a9ccd13194e62503f981d0e779fce89
>>109108062quote unrelated
>>109108038>>109108049is there any reason why you wouldn't want all your games on C if it could hold that much?
>>109108065You can wipe the c drive for a new Windows install without redownloading anythingBackups are also piss easy with just moving everything to a different drive
>>109108074let me rephrase that:is there any disadvantage to having your games split across multiple drives? cause i heard that drives other than C might be subject to higher loading timesthough that might've been cause a solid amount of D drives are HDD rather than SSD
>>109108100Not at allSplitting it across drives could also theoretically improve performance since windows randomly wastes IO cycles updating crap and caching data on the C drive which doesn't matter if your D drive is solely used for game read/writes
>>109108100It's usually the opposite.Everything on a C drive loads slower as your OS and background processes are using it. Back in the day the biggest upgrade for your HDD was moving Windows to a small SSD that way your HDD or non-C: drive is completely free to be used by the game.When it comes to all SSD storage nowadays, it really doesn't matter.
>>109107540you need a blackwell 6000
>>109108062Yeah corps don't pay retail prices for components, so whenever retail prices go nuts, prebuilts can potentially have a price advantage (without sacrificing quality on as many components as possible, like they often do).We saw this during COVID crypto boom too.
>>109108034
>>1091080342 TB NVMeI haven't had to think about storage on C:\
>>109108034C: is my only SSD
>>109108148Any reason to not just buy the prebuilt? Like, it seems 25% cheaper all parts included than building.
>>109108314So you know, SSDs get slower if you fill them by more than 85%. SSDs need drive space to function correctly. You are basically killing the drive's ability to use pages and blocks. If you care about the technical reasons just google it. If not, just leave 15% of your drive empty and it will run faster.
>>109108323>Any reason to not just buy the prebuilt?You are often going to get a OEM motherboard making it impossible to remove or install Windows. Meaning you can never reformat the PC to clear it up after years of use.You will also likely get a really cheap motherboard as well as a really cheap power supply that could blow up and fry your whole PC.If you're smart enough to spot what's wrong with a prebuilt you're smart enough to build your own PC.
>>109108365>really cheap psu and moboI assume it would be corsair and the cheapest 870 possible, but yeah>oem OS?You mean like BIOS or driver issues?
>>109108397>You mean like BIOS or driver issues?Yes, but more so, a lot of prebuilt PCs will remove the ability for new copies of Windows to be installed on it. Or at the very least make it very hard to install new copies of Windows. As they will uninstalls parts of the motherboard BIOS, that you would have to fit yourself.
>>109108411FrThat's one of the factors holding me back from getting a windows handheldOther than imaging the original OS as shipped, I have no idea how to return it to it's factory software state if I were to switch to steamos or want to have it reset for resale
>>109108323Yeah at this price, I'd look at a review or two before pulling the trigger, mentally adjusting for today's market situation.Cnet tested a 9950x3d / 5090 / 64GB config of it and didn't find any hueg issues, just some common prebuilt Ls, but also a retail mobo.> https://www.cnet.com/tech/gaming/corsair-vengeance-a7500-air-desktop-review-prebuilt-gaming-pcs-arent-always-special/
Got some shit to ask here.I overheated my graphics cards. How do I prevent this from happening again after removing dust and replacing fans with something better? Thought the signs were Linux problems not hardware.And how do I clean the grease off my headphones? Had some hot days.Oneodio headphones btw.
>>1091080342tb
