Soon all governments around the world will finish ID-gating the whole internet and VPNs. even ID checks at OS level. Not even the supposed "Land of the Free" is safe. The First, Fourth, and Fourteenth Amendments are useless. I guess we should start thinking of new hobbies, what are you all planning? I need some ideas for myself the world has gotten so boring there's not much to do.
hey chuds we warned you but you still voted for literal fascists lmao
>>109150264Looks like my digital hoarding is about to pay off. I have my backed up offline torrents of so much shit that I will continue to entertain myself for years to come.
>>109150264> what are you all planningTaking an angle grinder to the transmission towers. If I can't have the internet then nobody will have electricity.
>>109150264oh there's plenty to do for those who aren't shabbos g*ys
>>109150264Funny how kids having access to the internet was never an issue until anti-semitism because a mainstream, popular topic online.
>>109150297Yeah you were right, I should have voted for the anarchist party. I'll look for them on the ballot next time!
>>109150297>implying the other side would have been betterngmipolitics all over the globe is irrecoverably fucked
>>109150533Antisesmitism is such a huge problem it led to the bitterly divided congress to work together in a bipartisan manner to pass a law making the american government force tiktok to be sold to an american big tech company.
>>109150264>/g/ hats the fact that physical media is going “away”>does nothing to stop it>MoAr Ai PlEaSeGee, I wonder why your life sucks.
>>109150567>muh physical mediaHas always been the most brainlet midwit tier take by tech-illiterates. A cd is just bits on the cd. I have multiple external hard drives full of the same bits of torrented media that is all usable offline without any drm, it's far better than "physical media".
>>109150297People like you are so fucking stupid. Democrats are all supporting this, porn thing is being led by Republican states whereas age verification is led by Dems. It's all actually being decided at Bilderberg or wherever and who you elect makes no difference. Grow up you idiot.
>>109150549I rusheart all based patriots!
>>109150597A hard drive is physical media. Cloud storage is also physical media, it's just that you rely on intermediaries to access it. Even a YouTube video exists as physical media somewhere.
>>109150559It’s always funny when politicians show you where their real priorities lie.
>>109150264Time to get VPNs for real, but which country is the safest? I'm thinking iceland, maybe Finland. What do you think?
>>109150297This is literally bipartisan, the Democrats are arguing it doesn't go FAR ENOUGH >>>/news/1521705The democrats are literally saying that because it's not logging your keystrokes and taking constant pictures of your face, then it's not going to go 'far enough'.
>>109150653Right, which is why pearl clutching about muh physical media is a waste of time and a meaningless discussion. DRM free and offline accessibility is far more important.
>>109150533It's an attempt to rob the youngest generations of a voice and also track whoever is left of antisemitic tendencies, combined with payment processors, they can start to expel anti-semites(see: anyone who hates Israel) from the only communication platforms that matter.
>>109150720>he wants a VPN instead of confronting lawmakersWe've been through this before.
>>109150744>anyone who hates IsraelRed herring. I don't hate israel, I hate jews.
>>109150751Confront them and do WHAT? My senator and my congressman are literally people who introduced this bill. I do not have the $3 million to bribe them that AIPAC, palantir and other special interest orgs have in order to sway them. I can write them a letter and then try to hide myself. That's all that can be done. That's all anyone can realistically do.
>>109150758It's been statistically proven that writing letters to congresscritters and public sentiment have literally no effect on how congress votes or passes laws. Feel free to waste your own time.
>>109150776Exactly.The only thing that is worth any time right now is to set up China-level surveillance bypass. Everyone here should learn right now how people are able to use computers in China basically to the same extent we do here in the US, and it involves using obfs4 on a VPS with a standard such as wireguard or openVPN, and then tunneling THAT traffic to a VPN for two layers of separation and to land at a residential IP in a country that isn't ass-fucking retarded and ran by pedophiles.
>>109150753based
>>109150790
>>109150776and if they feel "unsafe" with the message they will screech about their right and 10 page nonsense statement about it being harassment and threat, and will do their best effort to make you into an 'example'
>>109150811based, but it would help if Xi's solution wasn't "Replace jews with Chinamen so Beijing can run your country instead". There is no future which is "Run your own country and do what is best for your people".
>>109150264>ai summary
>>109150826Xi's solution isn't much better, he's already been caught buying politicians in the US. He's just butthurt that Israel and Tel Aviv runs America and not Beijing. If he got his way, the same bills would pass but to not upset the feelings of the Chinese people.
>>109150264the 2nd is there to protect the 1st, 4th, and 14th
>>109150828>>109150840Every time you ask I will answer the same that I will always prefer Chinese people over jewish people.
>>109150843The 2nd is there to be a security blanket that never gets used. If it were ever to get used, the 1st, 4th, 5th, any amendment wouldn't matter because it would be the end of the Republic as we know it. It's the nuclear option and no one wants to push that button. Maybe at one time it was a deterrent but the bluff has been called so many times and the people who hold all the guns just do this to EVERYTHINGWhoever made this meme fucking nailed it. The same boomers who will fight to the death to own AR-15s that will sit in their gun safe collecting dust will also say that it's a good thing those "Awful kids" are getting spyware installed on their computer that will get funneled directly to the same people organizing America's population onto a lifelong permanent wrongthink list.
>>109150852Ok but the circumstances for us, non-chinese people, don't change. Colony A or Colony B, take your pick. You're still a colony.
>>109150843The 2nd exists to push these laws. This shit started happening because of school shootings that get justified by the 2nd existing. Notice the countries with the strongest privacy protections barely have any weapons at all. They don't need them. These are things you're allowed to have so they can declare you're a threat and pass these laws preemptively
>back to paper books and magazine>back to talking to people without techI can live with that.
>>109150840>>109150870glowcope gets worse and worse
>>109150870Colony B, every time.
>>109150912>>109150915Why? You're still a colony. Are you just forgetting that China had its own row with inheriting a white-ran colony and running it into the ground and making it an authoritarian shithole from a once extremely prosperous and free paradise?
Also congrats to Eglin shills successfully derailing this thread to bitch about China.
>>109150961Your propaganda isn't working. Everyone hates jews and prefers China to them.
>>109150758Allegedly Meta has been lobbying for age verification honestly people should just start boycotting Meta isn't like they will be missing much their apps are trash anyway who the fuck even uses Facebook anymore
>>109150967Shut the fuck up retard. No one asked.
>>109150972KWAB
>>109150961>cia color revolutionlmaoKill every last college protestor. Tienanmen was based as shit by the Chinese government.
you're a commie if you don't like where things are headed.
>>109150264Social media will lose 70% of its users and VPNs are all honeypots anyway. Use Tor.
>you're a commie if you don't like that things are headed toward communism
>>109150790>Everyone here should learn right now how people are able to use computers in ChinaPeople in China use vpns right? now tell me what is everyone gonna do when all the countries have passed the same laws huh? vpns will be useless
>>109151031They use VPNs but they have to cloak them because deep packet inspection uncovers those VPNs easily. The cloaking is done via obfs4, which randomizes the packet sizes. If you just use pure wireguard or pure openVPN, they can sniff for that.
>>109150896>back to talking to people without techkek imagine ever talking to anyone in real life
>>109151015>>109150979>Everything is a color revolution if it makes me look retarded wumao isn't sending their best. Not shocked threads about the US becoming an authoritarian state gets flooded with wumao trying to convince you that the place that ALREADY HAS THE AUTHORITARIAN SPYING that they're attempting to do here.
>>109151031>what is everyone gonna do when all the countries have passed the same laws huh?They're not going to pass the same laws. Most have already pushed back against it, and other countries, like Qatar, Cyprus, Belarus, have active reasons to support allowing people talking shit about Uncle Sam and don't give a fuck what you do on it. These are the same countries that were hosting all the websites that you could watch Fifa and the superbowl on.
>>109151095>RT >bitching about propaganda idk if I'm convinced, got any pravda or indiatimes links instead?
>Every accusation was a confession and the whole time Western governments were just jealous of China
>>109151105>>109151077
>>109151095how many years are we into the five day special operation, RT? since you care so much about propaganda being spread.
>>109151111>He says, posting a parody of a real Chinese system
>falling for western propaganda about muh China social credit scoreKWAB
So to access time wasting video games, brainrot social media, or corrupting pornography, they will be asking for simple form of identification? And if you don't want to do that, you simply opt out?That in itself does not sound bad at allMy skepticism is that I am not sure it will stop there and also why is this only now a problem after a decade or so of psychic damage inflicted on young goys? Could it be that Israel is having a PR crisis and now need to tag each individual when herding them in to the public square?Or will simply nothing ever happen?
I already got 20tbs of jav im good for life
What I'm currently most upset about is that Google updated their Terms of Service to remind everyone of this age verification bullshit and depending in which countries these laws have passed if they think you're a minor you are forced to just give Google your ID to verify you're an adult otherwise your fucking email gets deleted and you just lose everything
>>109151125>So to access time wasting video games, brainrot social media, or corrupting pornography, they will be asking for simple form of identification?kys jaknigger. If you actually believed it was as simple as posting your brown, ugly face you would do it right now. You won't. So why should anyone do it for these companies who have a databreach every 3 months on average?
>>109151140I'll have norman reedus do it to keep my 20 year old email address but never my own face.funniest shit is my email is almost old enough to drink and they are threatening me with ID verification.
>>109151125>My skepticism is that I am not sure it will stop there and also why is this only now a problem after a decade or so of psychic damage inflicted on young goys? It's because they're finally getting a payout to do it. That's all you have to know. It wasn't a problem until they were paid to think of it as a problem. Meta wants to shift the onus to someone else, so they're paying every state senator to do it.
>>109150811>>109150828>>109151015>>109150967>china le basedRetards, everything you hate is already present in china, but communists always present themselves as the saviors and anti authority and "oppressor" to the hungry illiterate peasants, for them to become a worst authority and oppressor.China is a cyberpunk dystopia built and created by western investments, and all their business model is enslaving their population to make cheap chink shit for westerners, and maybe copy some tech and make it more efficient, that's why they're incapable of any advancement by themselves, they threw thousands of years of their history and wisdom to follow some fever dream of a bearded jew. Retards like you are the ones to stand with anyone presenting himself anti what you hate, even if he's worse, the enemy of your enemy isn't your ally. All of your political stands is based on the latest contrarian memes and edits, grow up. You can see this retardation also in this new wave of "nooticing" where retards will claim they hate jews et al then go behind some jew waving the flag of israel, that will only use the anger he created to sabotage more power and money.And look how some of them will call me a jeet, a jew. or some kind of ad hominem because they're incapable of thinking beyond the childish We good Them bad.
>>109150865It's not about the guns, people need a leader, one, not a democracy or some bs, that they can follow like birds following their leader into the spring. Even if da people can somehow organize and after the millionth argument they decide to revolt against the government with their guns and shit, what next? You think they're capable of ruling? it will only get worse and civil wars will start until there's no america, then outside forces will take the chance to control the land, maybe russia from the north, south american cartels from the south, and local warlords will take the rest, or even worse some euros will enter to solve the problems and make it worse (they're all jews anyways).The problem is the people themselves, when most people can be not a migatard or a troon, then something good might happen. Because be aware that those "elites" don't take these bold steps without prior considerations of the state of the people, if they thought they will tolerate it they proceed, otherwise they like to take only small steps, now that most people are stupid they do whatever they want, people know their politicians rape and eat children and do nothing about it, imagine if this was in the 1950s, or the 18th century?
>>109150968>who the fuck even uses Facebook anymorebillions
>>109151290>It's not about the guns, people need a leaderThat's why they're putting these laws into place, to identify potential leaders and snuff them out.
>>109150264>Soon all governments around the world willTell me you're American without telling me. There's like 200 countries out there, most of them neither part of the west, nor of the axis of autocracy.
>>109151095This is the anon you're arguing with
>>109151139how do you even watch that slop? japs aren't that beautiful generally, especially jav girls (probably on purpose so loser-kun can self-insert) and they're super annoying and weird; fetishes of people blasted by a nuclear bomb.
>>109151295anon, it has been several decades of humiliation, and no one stepped seriously, it's so over, nothing will ever happen.
What these politicians and even the average person don't seem to understand is that these laws are anti-free speech and just plain censorship they say let's put adult content behind age verification to "protect the children" sounds good in theory but what is adult content? Because it doesn't stops at Pornhub, adult content can be anything adult or deemed harmful for children to see or read, consequentially making this information restricted for adults if we don't verify and like we saw in the UK it will get used for censorship. Besides songs and memes getting censored, videos of protests, news and posts about politicians talking about important stuff are also getting censored in Social media you see what I'm trying to say? people aren't getting important information. And of course this doesn't matter anymore because of course it was never going stop at Pornhub governments want more control they want it for Social Media and Operating Systems too
>>109151328>no one stepped seriously, The fact you believe that is proof that it works. OWS was the most terrifying event to ever happen to the upper class. They acted like it wasn't a big deal, but they changed the nature of the internet, the nature of society, the nature of communication, the nature of politics, the nature of race relations, the nature of business, and the nature of democracy all in the name of preventing another OWS from ever happening. It was the most expensive psy-op ever done in the history of humankind to prevent something like this from happening again. We had leaders who tried to make a difference and the overwhelming consensus is that there is no amount of money, time, or resources that they will not spend to break any system which seems to have any avenue of being used against them.If they could have chosen not to spend that money, they would have.
>>109151382This is why it extends as a blanket to all social media sites. Porn sites were getting regulated in maybe 20 different states already under the idea that it's like going to an adult section of a VHS store (yes, they are that old) and having to show your ID. No such rule exists for social media. This is al made up on the fly simply with the excuse that any content that involves communications that a minor could see is adult oriented. Which isn't just retarded, it's unconstitutional as fuck. minors have constitutional rights just like anyone else does. >>109150967>>109150826wumao
>>109151388nothing ever happened, nothing will ever happen, it only got shittier, so they failed.
>>109151401>nothing ever happened,Something did happen>so they failedThey got caught by race relations and SJW nonsense meant to distract and divide, so they failed. Make no mistake, it was a powerful blow to Corporate interests to be forced to hire diversity benchwarmers who wouldn't be trusted bashing two stones together to make fire before OWS. They ate that poison pill to keep OWS from happening again.
>>109151423And before some janny claims this is off-topic, this is why the Tech industry is just 5,000 jeets hiring their family members while 10 people do all the rest of the work: All sacrifices were considered acceptable to force the people who could commit to another OWS from ever having another job again. Most of OWS' leadership were middle-upper class white guys who had the skills and the money to take days, weeks off work or quit work altogether to go protest. They had a huge focus in tech and IT, as seen by their usage of the internet. Such a thing isn't possible when most IT work doesn't go to this strata of society anymore.
>>109150264yeah we will have digital ID too here in indognesia (IKD)WHY IS EVERY GOVT WORKING IN LOCKSTEP NOW?
>>109151439Didn't you guys revolt over this a year or so ago or was this another SEA country?
>>109151439>WHY IS EVERY GOVT WORKING IN LOCKSTEP NOW?>NOWalways have been, they're just more mask-off about it because they're aware that with the framework in place, there's nothing anyone can do to stop it. Any country that doesn't immediately kneel to Uncle Sam and Israel's interests gets declared a terror state and has its leader kidnapped/killed openly. So who is going to say no to them? They're the de-facto world government.
>>109151443no idea, there was no revolt here (even if they did it was staged or paid) it will be soon launched next year
>>109151447I guess all you can do is the China route and have your 'official' computer airgapped with your actual computer that uses wireguard and other measures to communicate discreetly with a VPN/VPS
>>109151446the more I learn about indog history the more it sounds fake and gay. The bad guys truly won in 1945
>>109150264I don’t know what to do. I’m calling my reps, but I’m not naive enough to think that will actually work. I’m backing up some stuff, but jesus christ there’s so much, and I can barely use this Gallery DL thing. I can’t imagine not owning a PC. I can’t imagine the internet being killed by ID verification. I don’t know what to fucking do.
>>109151461Back up stuff but remember the basics: VPN, VPS, airgap. Use KYCnot to identify services that don't require this shit, and when forced to use services that do: have an official computer with nothing on it, no real network access outside of WAN, and no way of pinging local networked computers, that is your good-goy box that uses Gmail, Office365, windows, etc. I have a $400 lenovo laptop I got years ago that I use for this purpose, windows 11 home, complete attestation. It has no way of communicating with the other parts of my network. soon I'm just going to migrate the rest of my network to VPN.
>>109151455I don't really use social media but I don't like the precedent they will ask for your social media for background checks (like when you apply for US visa)
>>109151468If that’s “the basics” then I’m fucked.
>>109151504That's 'the basics' if you realllly want to be futureproof. Just not using the sites is probably okay for right now. They cannot legally implement forced attestation or on-device scanning and not get fucked by the courts. Katz vs United States is very explicit on this: Mass surveillance that requires you to carry a piece of the government with you is an unreasonable search, and this applies even if you're in public. You have a right to a private life even if t hat private life intersects public spaces. They cannot undo Katz vs US as easily as Roe vs Wade because that's 80 years of built up precedent that extends everything from searching your car during a traffic stop to being asked to present papers in public. Where am I getting with this? Just don't use the sites that require it and that will probably be 'good enough'. If you do have to use the sites, use the cheapfag option like a Virtual machine and just remember: Those aren't private, they're just slightly more difficult to cross reference. For max normalfag privacy, take your normalfag phone to someplace like a coffee shop to ID verify. Everyone can do that and it's free.
guys in the uk apple is blocking websites after the new ios update so vpns to bypass the age verification don't work anymore this shit sucks what's the point of buying iphones anymore
>>109151528>They cannot undo Katz vs US as easily as Roe vs Wade because that's 80 years of built up precedent that extends everything from searching your car during a traffic stop to being asked to present papers in public. I mean...I don't want to be a doomer, but I also live in Minneapolis. They're kind of just doing that stuff already. I hope you're right, though. I'll look into virtual machines, I at least sorta know what that is.
>>109150297both sides want more control
>>109150264>States with Enacted Age Verification LawsAt least 25 states have enacted age verification laws, heavily focused on regulating commercial adult content websites to prevent access by minors:>Currently Active & Enforced: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, and Wyoming.>Upcoming Enactments: Laws are also signed and scheduled to take effect in West Virginia and Iowa.Wow, so I don't live in a cucked nanny state. And have a list now of places to never even consider moving to (my alma mater's state isn't on the list either)Based
>>109151967>implying there are sides
>>109151873ITODDLERS BTFO!!
>>109150297This, my friends, is what we call a low information voter. Or "retard" for short.California, a full blue state, isn't just proposing ID checks on websites, they literally want to ID gate your operating system. Who are muh fascists again?You are a complete moron.
>>109152046>Who are muh fascists again?Oh, MAGA, absolutely. But the reds don't have a monopoly on authoritarian bullshit. Fuck California for that garbage.
>>109151991gimme a good place to move, I'll move to the middle of the mountains if it's pro-freedom anti-retarded boomer who wants to ban everything
>>109151957> They're kind of just doing that stuff already.They can just 'do that stuff', but it's on borrowed time. First time it hits a circuit court judge, it's over. That's why they are pushing so hard to do it at the state level and why they are blitzing it through over two years: They are aware the legal system could make this fight take 5 or even 10 years. By then no one is going to want to fine Meta for violations they're doing today.
I've been thinking about this a lot the last week and I've come to two conclusions.1, the world will go back to pre-2000's times. the internet will be relegated to mostly productivity and one or two social sites. most people will opt out over time because its not worth the hassle and the content will be severely filtered and controlled.this will be a good thing and a bad thing. good, because times were simpler before the 2000's, bad because free expression will be nerfed and revert to being centrally controlled by media mogul #335.2, there will probably be a new "internet." how it will work or what it will look like is anyone's guess, but it will go through the same process as the current internet. it will serve its purpose for a short time before being relegated to the same fate, rinse repeat.
>>109150533Knowledge is antisemitic
>>109151991>Thinks the same laws will never come to his state kek
>>109150297better than the other literal fascistshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=md6gekqjjVU&ra=m
>>109151991Aren't these the states that are always going on about "muh freedoms" and mocking commiefornia for having an overreaching government? The absolute state, what a clown world.
>>109152155https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtb10ZwbReY
>>109150264>what are you all planning?wouldn't you like to know you fucking jew
Maybe accelerationism is the solution.
>>109152155same shit as the us criticizing the uk's censorship and expressing their worries about free speech while passing the same draconian laws
>>109152318Almost like the same group sorry (((group))) is behind both of these occurrences.
>>109152313The UK is proof accelerationism doesn't work. It would only work if people had a breaking point and they don't. the UK is comically corrupt and evil, they're demanding their own residents don't use AC in the hottest heat wave of the last ten years and fining/arresting people who use it. Even people who were all-in on letting pakis into their homes to personally ream them in the ass are realizing the sheer self-destructive, malevolent nature of a government whose only decisions are based on maximizing human suffering.Yet, nothing comes of it. No protests. No oustings. No pitchforks, tar nor feathers anywhere to be seen. They're looking at hundreds of people dying from a purely preventative problem of "Shit it's hot" and nothing is going to come of it. Accelerationism doesn't work because people will put up with much, much worse than anything a modern society can throw at them. It's been this bad before and nothing happened.
>>109150264I remember when americans criticized china and their "social score" in this board. But of course you guys do absolutely nothing to stop this shit kekThis was proven to have been pushed by tech bros, btw. They WANT to verify your identity
>>109150297A bipartisan chud just flew over my house
>>109151301they are easy to fuck with just cut off all ngo funding unless they comply
>>109152135None of that will happen. Big tech won't allow it because "think of the children".You guys let this happen. YOU have them this much power in exchange for a bunch of money.
>>109150297Fascists are the only thing you can vote into power. The structure of the US state makes democracy an illusion. We don't have actual democratic elements like participatory democracy, political education, and recall, and we are unlikely to ever get them since these are a threat to capital.You can vote blue no matter who but the truth is that it really only delays the inevitable. If you aren't organizing towards true democracy independently of voting, then you really aren't doing anything. This lack of organization (and the mechanisms of imperialism) is why the US is sliding towards autocracy, and honestly it will probably take a few years of true political oppression before the average US citizen realizes that this isn't what we should be doing."Chuds" are only voting for what they think will improve their conditions, which is exactly what is being sold to them. "MAGA" implies that america is not great right now, which is a refreshing breath of truth from a political system that otherwise lies through its teeth.
>>109150264Download the debian dvd set and any firmware and apps not in repository now so you can at least airgap your computer if you want to.
>prices of storage are going through the roof with no signs of going down again in the future>now governments are pushing to ID-gate the internet at largePeople laughed at me when I said to back your shit up to archival grade DVDs and M-disks. Just get SSDs bro! Writable discs are still cheap since they are worthless for AI and don't use NAND memory. When your SSDs and HDDs die off, I'll still be passing out burnt discs full of goodies. Looks like it's time to make a backup of my backups.If you don't have backups of every videogame you are even remotely interested in, tv show, cartoon, anime, song, etc, now's the time before the gates close.
>>109151995There are two sides.Government vs Subjects
>>109150264if it was 2010 internet you kight have had a point. 2026 walled garden of a few huge silos and an endless amount of ai slop and jeets? boohoo niggerstockpile whatever you need now then go touch grass instead of wasting your life arguing with a bot
>>109155725its possibly more comfortable at tunnels than on ground west europe
>>109150852>>109150870GIRLS GIRLS PLEASE STOP FIGHTING THERE'S PLENTY OF STARBUCKS MCDONALDS FOR YOU ALL
>>109150811>6 or 7 jews
>>109152435
>lived long enough to witness both rise and fall of the internet
>>109152333bongs are dying because the only way they know how to deal with heat is to "corr crack the windah m8", not because the coppers are fining/arresting them for using AC lmao. (You) are an example of the exact kind of cuck mentality that makes bongs so easy to rule over.
>>109156573Fuck you yank faggot, I literally got a knock on my door because my window unit was on.
>>109156098no, we must know which evil overlord is better so we can better whore ourselves as is woman tradition sorry "woman" tradition
>>109156592>window unitnot a thing in bongland, but nice try larpist
>>109151105can't a nigga hate all surveillance jewry?
>>109157631Russia has to live rent free in your head as priority number 1 first
