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first for the complete eradication of the software industry as a whole
>>109213430Extremely based.
>>109213430I'll settle for nuking QA first. That department is always a fucking nightmare.
>>109213422I promised a friend to make a site but it turned out way mire complicated than anticipated Wat nao?
>>109213484tell them you need a favor
Is the head of Project Management usually also the head of all in-house programming? It's setup like that at my office and it's weird af >t. data analyst
>>109213484whack the cunt into cursorsuck your teeth and tell the pal that it's a bigger job than it isship the cuntget paid
>>109213533Not in my experience. Project management usually plays with their phones all day in between emailing customers. They always want to be as far removed from the software engineers as possible.
>>109213533>Is the head of Project Management usually also the head of all in-house programming?"Project manager" means something different at every company. I'm a project manager, but I don't manage any projects - I'm more of a people manager.
>>109213633>They always want to be as far removed from the software engineers as possible.How are they going to know the project is on track if they don't talk with the engineers
I actually miss having a project manager that deals with the goddamn customers so I don't have to. Nowadays my project manager brings me into every meeting with the customers and CCs me in every mail with the goddamn customer
>>109213648That's the neat part. They don't! That's never stopped them from giving status updates.>15 minute weekly sync to check on the current project's status>Write down three bullet points and copypasta them into every single email sent for the next seven days
>me staying at the same company for 6 years>got 4 raises and 1 title promotion from >mediocre colleague that job hops every year went from helldesk to director in 6 yearsHello?Job hoppers won?
>>109213692Job hoppers almost always win.Staying in a company long term can be good for stability and routine, but it's really never good for any metric of growth.I'm not saying you're wrong. I like staying in jobs too, but I've also accepted the tradeoffs.
>SME from our team tells us she is being let go after 8 years of service>Other people with lots of experience are being laid off as well>Everybody in the Infrastructure, cloud engineering, and cybersecurity teams is panicking because we think AI is replacing us>Turns out they are outsourcing services to a company in IndiaSo India was the real threat and not AI, huh? Had to re-post because posting from the phone sucks.
>>109213861AI - Actually Indians
>team owns a module>it's possible to take a trace of the exact inputs to the module>when tests fail in the lab nobody ever runs with the option to give me all the inputs>have to demand multiple times to give me all the inputs every single time>all it takes to get every input is an additional cli flag for the command they are running anywaysWhy are these retards like this, GIVE ME THE FUCKING DATA, I CAN'T DEBUG IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DID
Are these threads just for bitching about the sad state of trying to land a job or times when you beat the odds and actually got somewhere in your career too?
>>109214302>Beat the oddscan't beat shit if you're white, whole system is against you
>>109214302Why don't you read the threads and come up with your own opinions
>>109214302They're open discussions for working in tech in general.In 2026 that's basically just bitching about how fucked the industry is.But if you have questions about stuff it never hurts to ask.
>manager lady doesnt know how bcc works>ccs everyone at the local branch >400 emails exposed just to send us the weekly cafeteria menufourth time this has happened btw>>109214358
If I hear "gen ai" one more fucking time
>>109214362>emails exposedOH no, the poor heckin emails of your coworkers. I can just open teams and see the email of any of the 300k msft employees, including the CEO.
>>109214392we have a lot of contractors so like half of the emails are @gmail or @yahoo
>brazilian third worlder>work in public company for the government>everything is always urgent>tech stack is all fucked up>mostly legacy stuff that private companies developed but couldn't maintain>I alone handle 3 systems used by millions (except the infra and network) that can't ever stop>not really a cracked dev, I just put out fires and eventually get new features done and shippedCurrently I make 10-15k USD/y tops.I'd be happy making 50-60k USD/y, but I don't know how to escape this. The only things that appear to me are blairesdev and other labour pimps.
>project manager assigns one of her minions to my team for new software implementation >all she does is what >>109213668 describes and occasionally takes notes>has a retarded sounding meek little voice>finally see her in person one day >mid as fuck but with a huge chest/neck tattoo Is this normal for PMO hoes?
>>109214409>blairesdevI used to be a manager there. That's about one of the only consulting firms that will hire a Brazilian. You should also try Encora, Globant, and ToptalNEVER tell them you make 10-15k USD/y, if they ask say you make 40k-45k/year.
Claude offline?
Pretty sure we got evidence of one of our coworkers being over employed.I wouldn't snitch but this guy fucking sucks and is a real drag on all of us. Probably because he's over employed.
>>109214682My salary is public, but I don't think they will be thorough right?
>get an offer>SFIts OVER I'm going to be a 5'8 manlet incel forever because 3:2 sf m:f ratio + brutal hypergamy + competing against "founders" (fake job btw) (jewish trust fund babies) that make 1m a year doing NOTHING meanwhile I'll need a double jaw bimax + infraorbital implants + rhinoplasty + otoplasty + leg lengthening surgery + a fucking skull transplant and a decked out igf1 / hgh / bone growth maximization stack to MAYBE have a chance of landing a 3/10 golbino ltb (god I pray she's skinny) that I can bring myself to crack when she has a plastic bag over her head
>>109214370luddite moment
>>109215215you mean he has 2 jobs?
I got laid off from 2 jobs in 12 months.Im sure I'll get another job, I usually go for literally who companies that offer full remote because their office is in like KC or philadelphia.But how bad is it that even these silly companies are laying people off.I'm even an AI/ml/datascience guy. whats even happening
>>109215452Yeah. Dude went to share his screen and he had a webex session running for 6 hours. We don't use a single cisco product at my company.
What do any of you actually even do?
>>109213422The ego on that bitch...
We have people blocking projects to randomly make retarded AI tools that don't get used beyond the demo, our manager won't say anything because he'll get goy points from our skip manager, who'll get goy points from the director who'll get goy points from the VP. Until this actually causes delays to the projects they are supposed to be working on and now everyone, including the teammates who 100% finished their parts, are retarded useless faggots who can't commit to a timeline
>>109215576Kek the more I look at this picture the funnier it is. All the empty drinks and a cello in the background.
>>109213422She's signaling that she's dtf
>>109215614Why not? Her husband is piping his trainer in Miami. She needs some action too.
>>109213692More money also equates to more risk. He's one major fuck-up away from being fired.
>>109215565I don't even know anymore. In theory I test medical software but lately I get yelled at to use agentic ai more.
>>109213422That's an AI picture isn't it?
>>109215637So they want you to do less work? Sounds like a good deal to me.
>>109213422is... is this cuckquean bait?
>>109215687True, but I'm too scared to really commit to that because all of the industry layoffs.But yeah it's the usual "use ai more to offset your increased workload" with zero direction or anything.
>>109215717I guess becoming the master of AI is the best way to always have a job.
Investfags and MBAfags should be put to death for turning this industry into a ruthless efficiency grind to churn out products nobody wants to use as quickly as possible with the smallest possible skeleton crew.
>>109213443sorry-not-sorry for doing my best to keep sales from completely taking over the org due to c-suite panic over skyrocketing churn because EVERYTHING IS ALWAYS FUCKING BROKEN BECAUSE DEVS ARE NOT USERS AND DO NOT THINK LIKE USERS AND ALWAYS RELEASE SHIT THAT BREAKS IF LEFT TO THEIR OWN DEVICES>before QA department formalized>45% churn (lmfao what)>after QA department formalized and given full control over deployment schedule>2.15% churn (record setting within our vertical)bad QA exists for sure, just like bad engineers exist, and bad managers exist, and bad salespeople exist
>>109215665Yes, OP Is a phony.
>>109215277They're jewish as fuck so maybe they will, but something you can do is say you also do freelance work and your total comp is 40k/year
>>109215311>5'8 manlethumblebrag
>>109215634the point is he's a director now, he's not going back to helldeskhe'll keep falling upwards
>>109215830NTA but QA is a completely redundant middleman. Your customers can UAT during alpha or on launch and the dev team should be able to cherry pick a hotfix on the same day.All QA does is add paperwork and friction to product delivery. Nobody cares about a perfect product. What matters is you jump into the market first.If Claude can QA at even 30% the effectiveness of a human QA then it's already a huge win for devs. Take your non technical asses out of tech.
a QA chad was here and caught your glaring oversight btw
You spent two sprints duplicating our integration tests because you can't read code.
>>109216092>Your customers can UAT during alpha or on launchThanks for sharing. Please throw out your computer and arrange to have your hands chopped off immediately so you can no longer fiddle with things that other human beings are meant to use.Sincerely, everyone
>>109214409Why would they pay more if you already do it for 10-15k / year?
>>109215565Professional simp for my aging MILF boss.
Tuesday!>>109215565I don't know. I'm like Ronnie in the pencil snipping comics, but doing technical stuff.
>>109216092>dev team should be able to hotfix a change in one daya new build for my team takes 30 hours. I don't mean including looking at code and debugging and whatever else, I mean pressing the "build" button until it is done. Then, deployment takes at least a month to rollout everywhere. If we just did no QA and waited for the customers to tell us all their problems we would lose all customers
>>109213692>>109213733>Job hoppers won?>Job hoppers almost always win.its called failing upwards.i know a guy who dropped out of everything. he could barely read in his early 20s.started out in helldesk, job hopped every four to six months. this guy literally couldnt hold a job for longer than six months.and they kept giving him better roles and more pay.he's now in his mid 30s, plays video games all day long on his remote job and earns over 10k a month.meanwhile >be me>finish CS degree at 26 years old>cant find a job to save my life>now also am in my mid 30s>unemployed loser retard>live in parents basementeverything boomers sold us was a fucking lie
>>109217128$120k is not that much. Maybe stop being a loser retard.
>>109213692>try to job hop>fall on my face and now unemployed
>>109217180>Maybe stop being a loser retard.i send my resume>HR says noi send my resume somewhere else>HR says noits a vicious circle
IM TIRED LADS
>>109217128You can't even find a one job, let alone job hop
>back up oncall>its just formality, no expectation to do anything>get a call>check if the primary is online>he's not>ignore call
>>109217254tc?
I job hopped from 0k->30K->70k->130K this year after 2 years after graduating without getting a single job, just keep trying
>>109217350>You can't even find a one job, let alone job hopyes, thanks to HRHR Logic:>this guy doesnt have a job>must be a deadbeat>rejection lettera few years pass>this guy doesnt have any work experience>must be a deadbeat>rejection lettera few years pass>this guy hasnt had a job in years>must be a deadbeat>rejection lettermeanwhile some retard who can barely read/write or hold a job for six months>look at all the different positions this upstanding citizen has had>such work experience>wow>offer him the world on a platterand this is why i want to see HR roasties burn in hell
>go from being the overworked sysadmin + support at a school with the world's shittiest MSP to government contract work for support level 2 that pays literally 50% more because lol government contractthree years later still here, nothing's changed, we'll probably look at increasing people we can hire as employees but for now just sit tight and we extend the contractI am bored every fucking day yet the fuck am I meant to do. It pays a lot for maybe an hour of work a day
I have been tackling sysadmin shit in order to make more money and the anxiety of being solely responsible for shit NOT breaking is making me sick.A mistake could freeze some 500 or so corpo users that could make a whole fucking shitshow.>Migrated codebase keeps mysteriously freezing and hanging>mysql just wont fucking respond anymore randomly>have to hard restart the service>Turns out I didnt give it enough ram and it was trying to run a "small" 25gb database with 24mb of page ram for a couple hundred peopleFUCK. I was able to blame the old and retarded codebase that admin refuses to have remade but I felt so retarded. I thought this shit managed itself!I miss being a dev who just shat out code, went into meetings and didnt have to worry about everything just fucking stopping for any retarded fucking reason!!!!!!Money is nice tho!
>>109213648>How are they going to know the project is on track if they don't talk with the engineersLMAO. Is there anything worse than being employed and managed by a fucking inbred with no technical knowledge?>Old manager was fired because he was found embezzling hundreds of thousands.>New boss is the owner's son himself but he is legit fucking inbred and has somewhat good logistics knowledge but knows jackshit about computers or programming or shit>If he doesnt see new parts of the GUI being made every week he gets fucking pissed because he doesnt understand that it needs fucking source code to have shit to show and that sometimes we just work with source code that doesnt show shit but keeps shit running.
>office got a new VP a year ago>my boss got pissy and stepped down>VP decides to reorg office>resident asskisser supervisor is now my boss>I get a nice new title effective July 1>still no word on what my new pay is going to beStarting to get worried bros
>>109217392I have 13 YOE and am not getting hired for shit. People theorize too much about why they arent getting employed. It's as simple as there being no financial incentive to hire right now so nobody is doing it. Corpos figured out how to get money by projecting growth via fake job listings that the government permits because it makes current admin look good. Kind of like when Sony releases some third-person cinematic snoydad simulator on the Playstation Niggers that nobody buys yet is highly profitable because Blackrock pays them (and Blackrock is connected to the money printers in ways we can't begin to explain within 4chan's character limit.) They figured out how to grow without any input from normal people. They also figured out how to ensure normal people never get pissed off enough to combat this.
>>109217392You know what worked for me? Asking my father to ask his CEO friend to get me a job in his fintech company, you should try the same.
>>109217401Aren't you scared doing contract work?
>>109217522>I have 13 YOE and am not getting hired for shit.liar benchod
>>109217577IF ONLY YOU KNEW HOW BAD THINGS REALLY ARE
>>109217592Nope, you must be doing something wrong, I got 2 YOE and was getting 1 interview per 100 applications, ended up with 3 offers, and I suck at interviewing. Maybe you are only looking for jobs that pay 200k+ or something.
>>109217599>I got 2 YOE and was getting 1 interview per 100 applicationsBait was believable once
>>109217599>ended up with 3 offers, and I suck at interviewinglmao
>>109217614>>109217618>if my WGU comp sci bootcamp certificate can't get me a senior engineer role at faang then just nobody is hiring right now
>>109215565I'm a really enthusiastic racist
>>109217618>>109217614You guys must be trolling or are one of those retards that applies to 2 companies per day.
>>109217570>You know what worked for me? Asking my father to ask his CEO friend to get me a job in his fintech company, you should try the same.Why didnt I think of that? Stupid me.It was right in front of me all along.
>>109218675Indians always win
Just wanted to share something positive today with everyone! After being laid off in 2023 after Covid, I, like many of you, couldn't get another role no matter how many applications I sent. By the end of 2025 I had given up and was just bed rotting at my parents house. But to my surprise, today I received an official comeback offer with a range of 70-90K.They put me in contact with my manager for a 1:1, and he said he’d love to have me back full-time! I was so happy but still a little scared till HR said his feedback was extremely positive and they offered 80K instead of 70K. I'm so happy to be back on track.
>>109216983I have a pure heart and a whimsical soul.
Every day I pray that tech will return to a comfy industry
>>109217418Welcome to system administration, faggot. If you want even more stress, try being a devops fag.
>>109218736happy to hear it anon
>>109218736I'm truly happy for you.
>>109218736>comeback offerwhat tf is this?
>>109213648>>109213633project management is a parasite class doing absolute nothing and only exist because higher management dont want talk with lower people
>Accepted offer>Gave 2 weeks>New job starts next monday>Company I thought had ghosted me comes back>Offers me almost twice what new company is offering>Obviously will accept>Unsure if I pretend I need 2 weeks or say I already gave my two weeks previously for the other company I was going to join so I don't spend 2 weeks doing nothing (and losing money)Would love some insight.
>>109219098In theory pms are a force multiplier. It makes sense to have a person with technical aptitude who can centralize project information, including requirements, and be the point of contact for cross team communication in larger companies where a single project could be dependent on multiple different teams.Obviously in practice we almost never see this happen. Like 9 out of 10 pms are phoning it in.
>>109219174The solution is obvious. You already have a Lead Engineer, and this is what they should be. The most experienced/balanced member of the team, naturally promoted, working as the interface that handles communications with upper management/stakeholders, as well as team planning. Good God we waste so much time/money in the corporate world.
>>109219098>>109219174>tfw have good technical ability and team organization skills but lack the raw knowledge to be a coder>would love to be a project manager and represent my team to the bosses>no one will hire a manager who hasn't had ""manager"" title somewhere>most pms are retarded and make me look bad for even wanting that jobfine fuck you nigs then
>>109216092>Your customers can UAT during alpha or on launch and the dev team should be able to cherry pick a hotfix on the same dayFuck no, we don't have qa where I work and it routinely causes disasters
>>109219202Sorry anon, it sucks being the exception.
>>109219101In this market I would accept and start working ASAP. You're in a great spot.
I'm not even sure if it's the office (will it KILL THEM to turn the AC on), the food I eat, the commute but holy fuck almost every day RTO I feel nauseous as fuck by the end of the day. It's gone to a point where I'm taking sick days just to avoid the office. Other than >lol quit Any other ways to cope? I'm already getting pre-heated up (literally) before I even check my retarded emails. Maybe that's the overlords idea to get people to snap so they quit. I wonder if eventually I can just threaten to quit with EI by saying I can't work in the office if it's going to be like this.
>>109219202>racistyeah nah I'm happy you can't become one
>>109213898>So India was the real threat and not AI, huh?why did you really think it wasnt about offshoring?
>unc in office posts on the company board "You won't be replaced by AI but you may be replaced by someone who uses AI" shut the fuck up you're like 50. literally on your way out to expiry. stupid bitch ass nigga (they're usually white)
>supervisor gives me a bunch of work>gives me a month to finish it>finish it in a little under two weeks, turn it in>immediately get more work>supervisor gives me a bunch of work>gives me a month>finish it in a little over a weekguess what I'm going to do this time
>>109219341Glad you learned your lesson.Don't worry, we all had to learn it.
>>109219298why, because you're a DEI coon?
>>109219341>>109219365desu my supervisor is so scatterbrained that once I finish it, I place it in the drive and don't really say I'm done until he asks for it then it's pretty much Schrodinger where>"Is this done? I'd like to make a few edits on it"Sorry, still working on it. Let me know what changes to make and I'll add them in.>"This looks good, just wanted to confirm you're done so I can submit it in"Yep mb, sorry forgot to mention it but go right ahead.
>>109219341>Get work>Get deadline of a month>Take that much time because I cut out a few pieces>Said as much>Coworkers talk behind my back about how one of the cut features wasn't possible but now magically is>Just don't give a shit because it's all fucked anyway, 3GB of RAM on a machine where all the orchestration tools need 4GB anyway>Not within my power to change it, get ignored and blamed anyway>Just keep taking the money because fuck you then
>reach 3 YoE>immediately spammed by jeets with fake companies on linkedin
>>109213692Jobhopping is better for growth. Given the current state of the job market, I think I prefer to stay put. My corpo is pretty stable and layoffs are pretty rare. Most people working here are 10+ years in. Best salaries in the area too.
>>109219373all I hear is your lack of pmness ;^)
>>109219743I don't understand why desu.
>>109219341I mean, what you expected?>hmm maybe if I turn in before deadline I'm going to get time off or a bonusthis will never happen
>>109219341What were you expecting?>Anon since you finished it early take 2 paid weeks offZoomer moment
>>109219216Thanks king
>>109219819>>109219794kys boomers. no wonder the entire world keeps getting worse. competence is only rewarded with slavery and mediocrities rise above. Yes I should get a small bonus or some incentive to finish my work early.
>>109219791Corpos stopped caring about employee retention. It used to be that you stuck w a corpo for 20+ years. Now the optimum growth strategy is job hopping every 2 years. Which is great because no one expects shit out of employees year 1, and year 2 you get to show how shit you are at your job then leave before being fired, rinse, repeat. White collar jobs are basically jew daycare now and have a tenuous connection to actual value and productivity.
>>109219855The boomer answer would be to keep finishing tasks before the deadline for no gain. Jobs are tailored for the lowest common denominator, actually excelling is bad. You have to do slightly better than what's minimally expected to not get fired. That's it.
>it reviews the markdown until it feels comfortable with the results
>ticket filed that requires a remote session that's accessible via a teams/webex/zoom session that shares a browser window that opens up a remote desktop that opens up another browser window that opens up an ETX machine that finally opens up the remote access environment>4 seconds between input and it actually getting registered>literal 30 seconds for GUI windows to redraw>one of the many browser windows involved or teams/webex itself captures your keyboard hotkeys>can't even clipboard my shitty helper bash/python scripts over to that environment for some of the tasks I wanted automated while debuggingI hate remote work so much at least send me your shit it's not like I have enough of a brain to understand it enough to copy it or leak it.
>>109219855If you want to get paid per project, start your own business. If you want to get paid for your time, you shouldn't complain.
Help! I am stuck in a boring pointless software training. I don't want to be forced to interact with random strangers. Please leave me alone.I can't believe megacorps pay for this shit. The megacorp is literally paying some grifter to have me produce nothing.
>>109217366160k
I'm looking for new work, but I'm so fed up with my old job even the bare minimum is exhausting.
>>109220059benchod
>>109220086shut up or you will be redeemed
>all of the new zoomer hires (including me) are miserable and dead and have soulless eyes >all of the pos boomers that have been here for 20 years and do nothing all day are giggly and cant shut the fuck up about their families or pointless shit or saying hi to each other over and over
>>109220126zoomers dont have full souls. too much poor racial admixture turned them into something slightly above a hylic.you have dead eyes because you watched too much anime and took too many ssris.now go write some tests and fix some bugs for me little bitch ass nigga.
>>109220126Sounds like you chose to be "miserable"
>>109220126I have a zoomie teammate who's pretty cheerful and positive. It doesn't really feel like she's sipped the juice so I'm genuinely confused on how she can cope with all the bullshit. she joined a long time after me but I haven't seen her get frustrated over anything which genuinely surprises me due to how retarded our work is. >>109220144kys wannaberichfag, dicksucking AI is just gonna get you nutted on once the execs want a new boat.
>>109220153>she
>>109220126sounds like zoomers lost kek
Just helped slim our dev team down by 3 more devs, AI is so goated
>>109219339Funny webm
>>109219339cringe.webm
Yay I'm now off call.
>>109220201Contrarian. I also thought it was gonna be a reverse rape jav, but it was still good
Any security clearance fags in here? How does one go about getting one of these jobs, do you get the clearance first? What's the best one to get for broad coverage? My buddy in EE got a government job and a clearance with it rather than ahead of time, and then used that to pivot over to private sector jobs. Is that he only conventional way?
>>109220212look I wish society was all cute like that, but it isn't and pretending it is is cringe
>>109220230enlist
>>109220230have you tried using google nigga? your friend is right thats the easiest way. good. luck getting a company to sponsor your clearance
>>109220230Join the military go guard and reserve if you want to stay local. Its extremely hard to give one to some random unless they have a masters degree and 12 years of experience.
>>109220230if you ever rented you cant get it
>>109215665of course it is, look at "her" face
I had a CFNM dream followed by a CMNF dream, all featuring my colleagues.
>>109214147>add payload logging to the module>???>realize you're retarded because you could've avoided all that bullshitkys
why are so many of you guys old? or are you larping to be gen x/boomers?
>>109220466the shitlennials moved into another industry (or killed themselves) and the zoomers never had a chance against the influx of AI (autistic indians)
>>109220520shutup zoomer
>>109220562I'm a shitlennial, actually.
>>109220572prove it, post the needful
>>109217180Stop shitposting.>>109217418Stop being a shit sysadmin. You're obviously supposed to do migrations in stages, including dev > test > prod. Test is where you're supposed to find out what allocations you need, not prod.
>>109214482>Is this normal for PMO hoes?No. But I guess the average age of PM whores is getting younger. I've worked with veritable MILFs in the past, absolute smokeshows! But the vast majority of PMs are uggos or younger male biz school grads.
>>109218736Great, anon, it only took you THREE YEARS to get a new job. Most people don't have the money or intact parents' home to NEET in for that long.
>>109220728the real question is how he kept getting interviews after a year+ gap.
>>109220466I'm 36 which unfortunately is kinda sorta old in our industry.
>>109220761Few companies are this desperate so that is a legit question for any industry.
>>109220780why do boomers say stupid shit like this? software is a geriatric field full of gen x retards making the same crud slop in java and c++ for decades. sf zoomers are like 10% of the industry. And that percent is going down because stupid old fucks like you think juniors are worthless because of ai and indians.
>>109220847I have seen the future... It lays in Hyderabad. Perhaps Bangalore if you can afford it.
>>109220847indians are just better developers
>>109220230Back when I was job searching a lot of major defense companies had entry level jobs that mentioned they'd sponsor a clearance if you got the job. This was prior to covid though so I imagine those aren't as common anymore. Other than that, government jobs or joining the military are probably your best betsHonestly, a clearance can be a bit overrated. It's definitely good for job security, but I ended up switching to a job that's 100% WFH which doesn't require a clearance. Cleared work requires going into the office everyday in an area with no internet access, so having a wfh job is much more comfy by comparison even if it is less secure.
>>109220126Hi
>>109220847Because 50+ year olds have hard times getting new jobs when they're laid off, because they have higher salary expectations than a greenhorn as a result of having experience, which is also why their last employer laid them off so line would go up. I'd be willing to bet it's just retarded zoomer shitposting that changed the affected age range down to mid-30s, and doesn't reflect reality.
>>109221293>because they have higher salary expectations than a greenhorn as a result of having experienceExcept young people are more likely to be AI native; why should companies still be paying insane overinflated salaries when AI can not only do it faster and cheaper, but also better?
>>109221228>job securityMeme entirely most are MSP related work so its year by year contracts with a shitty boss you can have none of that job security.
>>109220689
>>109221331The job security's mostly from having the clearance and the workforce being limited only to US citizens. There's a bottleneck of defense companies looking for cleared workers, so it's easier to find a new job for a wagie with a clearance than for one without
>>109221293>BOOHOO THINK OF THE GENERATION WITH THE HIGHEST NET WORTH.... they might have to cry in their 5 bedroom houses and tap into their retirement savings when they get laid off!!!resisting the urge to fedpost rni want to bash your skull in with a rock
>>109219197>The most experienced/balanced member of the team, naturally promotedThis never works well.What happens in practice is that the engineer that sucks up the most gets promoted and then becomes a completely different person once he gets a little bit of power and starts micromanaging the fuck out of colleagues
>>109221338I have become ungovernable.
i need to work somewhere that i dont have coworkers talking about the stupid world cup>mexican coworker mad argentina scored againlol
>>109221359Yeah that's true within the community its easier since the barrier to entry is higher.
I did it, I turned in my two weeks. I'm out of the rat race, fuck all you losers staying in
>IT manager interview>male TL interviewed me 2 weeks ago>guy didn't even say niceties like 'good afternoon'. He started asking technical questions right from the first second>aced it >2 days later they invite me for a 2nd interview>this time they want to know more about my experience, interviewer is male director>aced it, he loves me, he says the other interviewer thought I was "too technical" for a manager role and he even shares his screen and shows me the comments the other interviewer wrote about me and says he thinks the other interviewer misunderstood my personality>5 days later, FEmale C-level interview>think I gave her the ick because I asked her what I can expect in terms of compensation (yes, I'm fucking retarded. I had 3 interviews without knowing what compensation looks like)It's over?
>>109221449No one in my office gives a fuck because they're all middle aged white women. >>109221463Where will you go now?
>>109221487>interviewed by C-suite cuntIs this a small to medium sized company? Because that's often not a good sign.
>>109221166>indians are just better developersCompetent ones ask for help all the time. The rest are double digit IQ retards. So no, they're not.
>>109221568~200-person company that's growing fast (mostly through acquisitions, PE-backed)
Fucking Israelis refuse to do anything unless you have a formal contract proving it is their fault, they fucking suck to work with. There is a known bug that cannot explain all the symptoms of an issue we have, and they refuse to look into it because of the known bug, even though it's been reproduced in another version without the bug
>>109221368If that's what you got out of that, you need to go back to school and learn how to read.
>>109221653Why post fake shit
>>109219855>Yes I should get a small bonus or some incentive to finish my work early.I think so too but you were innocent to think you would be rewarded for it because that's not how the boomer boss mind works
>>109221691Some motherfuckers always jonesing for a (You)
>>109221551>Where will you go now?Take care of my aging parents, aim to inheirit the house with low property taxes (thanks Prop 13), open up a small business for pocket change. No IT stuff unless I feel like it.So idle rich/gentleman farmer/NEET, depending on how you look at it.
Do you list the projects you've worked on?> 20xx - current, Corpo the Corporation> tech lead and maintainer for the Corpo Corporatizer
>>109221818I use 2 page CV's zero issues in getting a job. Sometimes they are looking for buzzwords and oftentimes a project either diy or at work will cover it.
>>109215625sacrifices must be made - including her marriage
>>109215614Dumbass
>my tech lead approved my mr without pushback Whoa... I did something correct?
>>109213422wait is he cucking his wife? I didnt even know you could do that with anything that wasnt a 3/10
>>109221979Some women need it to make themselves sound valuable.
>>109220761just lie
>>109220466lmao do you think anyone under 30 has a job
>>109214302I've punched well above my weight when one considers my personality and background. Still depressed.
hows austin, texas for tech work
>>109222204Its crashing yet people and companies are going to be holding the greatest bag of property loss ever. Vid related. I don't know where the tech jobs are going to go after this. The few game devs here are feeling the pinch of the new great gaming crash just on the horizon.
>>109216064wtf are you talking about 92% of women wont touch a 5'8 even if he has literally everything else she wants.
>>109222251I am 5'2 with a 3 inch wiener but look like henry cavill. Will i make it.
>>109217418>making more more as a sysadmin than as a devhow
>>109222251This aligns with my experiences as a non-vertically challenged man. Young women get the ick from short men.
>>109222232AAA gaming is overthese layoffs are just the beginning
>just got the news that I'm moving onto the final round with this apple team>2 back to back panel interviews
>>109222523Stfu faggot, go blog on your tranny discord
The GPU and RAM spikes alone are going to fuck gaming for the rest of the 2020s.
>>109221979No it's an edit. The original is a guy saying that about his wife, it's in the last thread
>>109222597I'd suck dick and troon out to get into applethat's how serious I am about thisYou need to want it as badly as you want to breathe. And I am an animal.I just need to focus. I'm better than the competition.
>>109222523>>109222632good luck anon
>>109222603I updated in 2024 so this is perfect for me
>>109221597>Bizraeli's giving you their oyest veysIt's like pottery, it rhymes
Fellow wagies, how do you do it? I can't fucking take this shit anymore. How do y'all cope through it
>>109222523>>109222632Good luck, I think it's time for me to chase my fagman dream... How did you prepare for it? I didn't follow your whole saga.
>>109223219The threat of being homeless is persuasive.
>>109223230>How did you prepare for itreading the entire swift documentation
>>109223238Funny. I'm considering homelessness as an option rather than living like this
>>109213443qa lost (won)
>>109223267I'm not tough enough for the streets. I'm diagnosed autistic and I know they would eat me alive.
>recruiter from fagman contacts me>tells me there's a total of 6 interview roundslol
>>109223381It's just camping but for longer
Some girl from marketing invited me to lunch tomorrow to answer some stupid questions about power BI or something and i was too retarded and autistic to say no
My boss announced he's moving to another department. Please don't let a jeet replace him
>midlevel developer thats never led a team or worked with more than one other person at a time>interviewing for senior position im clearly underqualified forhelp
>>109213435Hopefully humanity unfucks itself in the future and Ted is seen as a visionary
>>109223660Just bee yourself
>>109223253You say that like it's impressive and not the baseline. Somebody wrote that, why do you think reading it is an accomplishment. That's why you don't have the work ethic for success
>>109223698have you SEEN utwg? >>109211022
>>109223799>I'm not a loser because there are even bigger losersSpiritual jeet
>>109223799that guy has a devops job and you dont btw
>>109213422how are the jobs for system programmers? I want to become one
Women fucking love spamming gifs in MS Teams
>>109223864That's how i met my wife
Computer Science and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
>finally got documentation for database i have to get data out of>its a fucking word doc>half the tables arent listed, somehow this is the most up to date one they havekill me
>>109223874what's wrong with having documentation in a word doc
How bad has the AI brownnosing got in your company? We had a touchpoint meeting this week about using AI and holy fuck I wanted to smack the shit outta of our BAs for being such cocksucker brown nosers. "durrr AI helps me do my work because I get it to scan through all my documents but one thing I want to note is how sometimes it will hallucinate so it's very important to double check your work like our CEO said!" GO FUCK YOURSELF JERRY NOBODY FUCKING LIKES YOU. GET YOUR GAY HUSBAND TO FORCE HIS DICK DOWN YOUR THROAT SO YOU NEVER HAVE TO SPEAK AGAIN
>>109223698>You say that like it's impressive and not the baselineI never said that. You just interpreted it that way.The bar is on the floor; I can become a master developer after I get into faang. For now I just need to be better at interviewing than the competition. Besides by amazon (fuck amazon) I've never been asked questions that were shockingly difficult in an interview. The issue is that there is a large breadth of topics to cover, and knowing enough about all of them to answer everything that gets thrown your way takes a lot of studying and persistence through trial and error. Maybe you can set up LRU cache in 35 minutes; but can you set up a debouncing sync layer as well? And bottom up DP over a binary tree? And explain how to set up a backend database system with an API gateway and authentication? And explain how a compiler works?
>>109223831yeah
>>109223891Those people are like half my company. They recently started an "AI Academy" where they have meetings and go around in circles talking like that for hours
>>109223891that BA statement is correct thoughever
>>109213422>AI cuckquean slop on my linkedinit's over.. it's finally over...
why is it "cuckquean" and not "cuckqueen"?
>>109223929boomer
>>109223920FUCK YOU JERRY. HOPE YOU DIE FROM A CUMPLOSION>>109223909Same but last year when it came for me asking if I can create some scripts for my team? Good lord nope nuh uh can't do it MUH SECURITY MUH GOVERNENCE MUH MAINTENANCE. now they're more receptive if you get AGENTSSSS to do a simple if X then Y. I fucking hate you Bob, Stevie and Martin. I HOPE YOU ALL DIE
>>109223949governance and maintenance are important, you're being narrowminded
>>109223972oh yeah it's important until it comes to AI now it's "okie dokie! :D GO WILD WITH IT"
>>109223891We have a weekly meeting where a couple of the boomer directors go on and on about AI. They either use it extensively to generate useless slop tools, or they know nothing about it but want to make sure the business is using it because they heard it's a thing, and I have to listen to them go back and forth jerking each other off for 1h+.
>>109223831>how are the jobs
>>109223874feed the db to claude and ask it to document the schema
>Already feeling burnt out due the amount of failed and dropped projects last year.>Our team got reconstructed and we joined another department>they're "voluntelling" everyone to write down ideas on how they can improve the department and they want 1-2 per person>want to already burn myself monk style in front of the lobby. How the hell do I survive this year or do I just cope with being laid off? Why do I constantly have to do this shitty ritual where I suggest or do things and they immediately shut me down later anyways.
>work email has an em dash in itdon't give me that bullshit about it being normal punctuation
>>109223896But can you have a pleasant conversation and look at someone in the eye?
>>109224100of course, mastering that is elementary for any true dark triad psychopath. I rizzed up a foid today at starbucks.
>>109224097Its entirely built off of Reddit API data so either way its AI.
I was hoping I'd get laid off from my current job months ago so that I'd get paid severance and have some time for myself, but they didn't. now I'm getting job offers. if I leave, I'd lost like half a year of severance money.I hope they let me go soon, and pay me for that... I'd pray to all the known and unknown gods for that.
>>109224122you're entirely built off of Reddit API data
>>109224140How? I try to send out an application 1-5x a day. (God the jobs out there are getting to be REALLY retarded and I can only find like a couple I vibe with) and I haven't gotten SHIT yet since January. Senior too so I have YoE. I'm even fucking jumping boats and going bro you can cut my salary for 20k and I'll go back to a bitch help desk role just get me outta hereeee
>>109224097If you aren't using AI to draft all your emails you already lost and will be replaced.
>>109224158>1-5x a day
>>109224162Shit's hard man. Everything out there looks like the same chaotic bullshit but underpaid or completely out of field. What the fuckkkkk mannn, nobody knows how to use your obscure shit ass technologies.
>>109224116Yeah so that's a no
>>109224158>He doesn't send out 25 applications a day in-between in getting certs.
who the fuck has 25 applicable jobs every day? Are you applying globally or something?
>>109224187that too
>>109224187Yes also MSP contractor so tons of positions to apply for out in Euro/Japan/Korea.
>>109224183>>109224200I want to fuck these things
>>1092241581. I (ESL) made a mistake. I'm not getting offers, but being contacted by recruiters. no offers so far....2. I'm not american or a dev. I work in infosec, and my country has a new infosec law that law will go into effect later this year, and apparently it forces them to hire application security auditors.the irony being that my employer is going the other way, reducing teams and hiring external people, even though we've waved their fucking asses for years kek3.>How?just add as many buzzwords to your linkedin profile as possible. you might start getting messages for interviews and stuff.you guys should start learning about security. consider the current amount of insecure slop that will be generated by LLMs... a lot of shitty, insecure code that will flood the internet that needs to be audited.
>>109224205You are a pedophile.
>>109224218>you guys should start learning about securityYou niggas need to learn TCP/IP protocol and Networking before you can go around telling people to learn your bullshit scanning software and trigger happy managers who fuck shit up. Fuck you and die.
>>109224218............are you AI (actually indian?)
>>109224221
>>109224228>bullshit scanning softwareI don't use automated tools, faggot.also, did you even read my post? I don't do network pentests.>>109224229>only USA and India exist in the worldare YOU indian?
>>109224231does that png really need to take up half a megabyte
>>109224239IM JUST ASKING YOU KNOW THERES A LOT OF THEM.Bangladesh?
>>109224239Exactly all cybersecurity folk's are retarded niggas who don't know shit. Fuck you.
What are some certifications that don’t cost much money but look good on a resume?
>>1092242782 tests total 2000$ excluding the fly out/hotel room/food travel ect. Cheap as they come and easy. CCIE Automation
I have to fight tooth and nail to get a job and then when we get new employees at my work, they're fucking retardedlike ????? what???? make it make sense
>>109223883>didnt disable autocapitalizations>half the columns are shit like "asset id: varchar 255, the asset id" and "asset identifier: varchar 255, the asset identifier">no table of contents>>109224009actually a great idea, it could probably turn it into a halfway decent markdown file, maybe even figure out the difference between all the similarly named columns
>>109213535>whack the cunt into cursorlook at the AI drone trying to fit in with its lingo.
>>109224300>Shift through 100 resumes a day not knowing what any of the words meme>Send 10 back to the manager who opened the position>All trash>Do it again tomorrow but pick out people i would be fine with dealing in the office"personality hires with less experience">Do this 10 more times for weeks on end until the manager just makes these guys preform a coding test based upon a dice roll, then have them roll the dice to determine if they get lucky enough, >he didn't account for weighting for race/gender/tranny ect. Failed.>Manager just is lucky to not have an open position to deal with me againYep its HR time.
>>109224300it's a VP's nephew or they ate out the HR manager
>>109224312>actually a great idea, it could probably turn it into a halfway decent markdown file, maybe even figure out the difference between all the similarly named columnsyeah you should hire me o algo :)))))
>>109224159if you arent telling chatgpt to adhere to a certain style and only use characters on the keyboard you're already obsolete and will be replaced
>>109224019>>they're "voluntelling" everyone to write down ideas on how they can improve the department and they want 1-2 per personjust use AI for this shit, one of the best use cases for AI is satisfying this kind of retarded corporate brainstorming. some dude at your company probably makes 250k to answer the exact question you're now being asked, and instead he makes it your job
>>109224300sar how are you saying with this?? india is sending best for job!
>>109224300modern niggerconomy is specifically designed to filter out competent people
>>109224368>instead he makes it your jobStory time! I worked for a small credit union and we had the full corporate "agile" scrum setup. Anyways some VIP decides our internal sharepoint needs a home page with news. There's BI's, Project Managers, Designers, Architects, other senior managers all pulled into scrums to decide on things. Finally, my manager gives me the "epic". It's just a fucking empty page with a blog widget and some links. Takes like a day or two. I send it back. A week late its approved and live. The CEO sends a company wide email thanking the "internal network" team for their work. The VIP takes the project team (including my manager) to lunch at some steak house. I watch them leave and grab my mustard ham sammy.The corporate world is fucked and I'm too utterly autistic to understand that world.
>>109224331Thanks, doc.
>>109224377>modern niggerconomy is specifically designed to filter out competent peoplenta, but I just had a 5 hour interview for backend. database questions, architecture questions, web socket stuff, live coding leet codes, live coding apis. At the end my brain was just fucking melted and I get a "well let you know in two - three weeks".but let me tell you the worst part... the worst part was the hr lady told me to study and prepare for live angular coding.... I was like oh thats strange even for backend? ... there was no typescript test... also THE COMPANY DOES NOT USE ANGULAR
>no gf>boring job>barely any friends>no plans for the futuremaybe kicking the bucket isn't so bad...whats the most painless way
>>109224542dont you have somebody you dont like
>>109224542Don't be so depressive, i mean you can always do what you want in the end.I stay alive because I know there's a chance that I'll get to be with her and be healthy again.
>talk to FAGMAN last year>always got to full loop>rejected because one bitch with a pedigree bs>now>getting rung up by recruiters again>neck deep in client work as a freelancerWhy even bother if I know they're going to waste my fucking time or try to get me to move to California for $140k?
>>109224574>California for $140kThats like saying 200k in DC. That aint shit.
35 years is not enough...
>>109224580And I'm only talking base salary which means I'll be struggling over there at $140k. What's the point of getting $300k+ TC if more than 50% is in RSUs in the most expensive area in the US? Though it is a confidence boost to have another hiring manager hand select me for all of 5 minutes.
>>109224601Even 4x to a 2 bed apartment they way they did it in college dorms with that pay barely eeks out a living if you still got college loans. Also no way people 5 years into their career will live like that again unless its Y Combinator/Startup shit.
>>109224609I still got like $40k in college loans so not that bad but I'm not going back to that. 13 YoE, did my startup dues, and I refuse to go back to that lifestyle. I'll entertain the hiring manager but I'm expecting a bullshit first round like last time from this particular FAGMAN. I really doubt they're willing to satisfy my $230k minimum base salary. They can afford it but I'm sure they don't want to pay.
>>109224647>I still got like $40k How much was the original? Also why not just dump cash into it now to save more on interest? I made less than 32k a year a long time ago and paid off that amount in both college & 21k new car loan within 6 years. Its not worth the lost money in interest to keep paying miniums.
>>109224664>How much?$60k>why not just dump cash into it nowBecause I make more from the spread from investing/trading in the market long term than the interest I'm paying now which is like a mix interest of 4.5%. It really ain't bad and I'm in no rush to get it off of me. Though, I will be getting a car soon so that's gonna be like a $30k minus down payment loan on my record. I'm not looking forward to that.
>>109224692>interest of 4.5Sure but total interest should also be accounted for. Then you need to account for money lost every month you make a payment that could instead be invested.
>>109224700I ran the numbers a while back and I'm satisfied with my choice. At the end, I should make a good amount over even if the spread gain is 0.5%. I'll take any edge.
>>109224730Well keep at it and make more money in your career so it actually matters.
next bread>>109224961>>109224961>>109224961
>>109213484Tell him that.
wtf?? why the early bake???
>>109225109>earlyuuhhhh the bump limit?
