Anyone heard of this? Is it safe?
https://vibecoding.rocks

is that spam?

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>>109250821
buy an ad, bro

>>109250831
I saw that post and wanted to know if it is safe

>>109250821
holy slop shit

Are game engines obsolete? Seems like you can just vibe code an engine with the exact features you need in like 2-3 weeks.

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>tf company announced full RTO
I have 1 month to get to at least 100k ARR with my vibecoded app or I have to go back to the wage cage.

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>>109250814
VIBEKINO THREAD
SNAILOIDS SEETHING RN

>>109250850
I believe so, have been making my own for the past month, I love how much lighter and faster it is, like Unreal has so many features I don't care for, I don't think I'm ever going back.

>>109250839
it's probably not

>>109250854
trvnuk

This shit is hilarious. I've been struggling with something that was complex for me, and Sol just built me a whole observability suite.

>>109250853
sounds like bean counting to me.

The bean god will be proud of you. You will enter into bean heaven.

>>109250875
I love Sol

>>109250821
this is absolutely not safe lmao in more ways than one

>>109250853
Autistic Retards?

>>109250875
>observability suite
sounds like advanced bean counting. those beans are going counting places they've never been counted before.

>>109250892
coffee beans or beans beans?

>>109250897
beans that count other beans, anon.

>>109250904
who counts the beans that count the beans?

>>109250905
the snailcats at meta

>Sol Ultra running for 6 hours now (who knows how many additional hours for agents)
>I estimate I am 70% done
I'm sure you are asshole

this thread is so shit no one even talks about anything theyre making its just people talking about quotas
i remember starting the first vibe coding general and i would just talk about projects i was making back when no one even did it because there wasnt agents that did all your thinking for you

>>109250934
post your project, you won't

>>109250892
That's the goal.

>>109250850
>>109250863
I'm still in the planning stages for an engine that focuses on character action games and its already shaping up to be awesome. So much cool stuff you need for those genres built right into the engine.

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>mfw built a cli for the program i use and my clankers have used it for dozens of hours already and produced lots of useful work for me
truly personal software is so comfy. also very kino because often they'll happen in these concentrated batches so i get to see the program used at superhuman speeds

>>109250971
based

>>109250814
What's with this new trend of starting a new thread immediately when the old one hits the bumpcount? The fuck is wrong with you? Your news section is shit, you've got the old Open/local/self-hosted section, you chose an image irrelevant to this thread, and you posted it several hours too early. Bad OP. Bad. Fuck you.

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>>109250934
ok faggot, here's my project.

>>109250977
Based

clankers is the stupidest gay term and I guess I shouldn't be surprised but I still am that such a gay and lame profoundly and purely reddit term gets used without any irony

>>109250934
last thread I talked about my experiment making Sol code in LLVM IR but got no (You)s

>>109250977
relax

>>109250977
I can't imagine being autistic enough to care about this shit even a little bit

>>109251008
Here's your (You). Now fuck off.

>>109251002
What do you want us to call them? Im not using "AI" its simply too unaesthetic

>>109250977
imagine caring about autistic shit like this
literally go touch grass

>>109251011
>>109251016
>>109251032
>underage
>newfags
>brown
I expected as much, it'll be another few hours before the last wretches of Kolkata fall asleep.

>>109251002
I always imagine the person saying it as sixty years old. It sounds like something a boomer would say thinking they are being hip.

>>109251049
meds

>>109251016
At some point you start noticing that the anons who insist on making the threads early also are the ones that insist on shitting up the OP so I get where he is coming from.

>>109250934
>i remember starting the first vibe coding general
Condolences if you actually start this general, it was good idea but the same retard that killed agdg will end up kill this one too it seems

Those threads are getting extremely low quality

>>109251027
Them? "They" aren't anything my guy. Its a computer program, not a robot. Modern robots don't even "clank" it makes no sense.

>>109251063
Thank you for understanding, correct-anon.

>documents folder suddenly became entirely read only
what the absolute fuck is this retard Sol Ultra doing

>>109251063
>shitting up the OP
again, who cares about this shit? how can you "shit up" the op? nigga just scroll down and stop looking it at

>>109251063
Am I just not permanently enough for this? I don't even understand what you mean? Who is shitting up what? "That one anon" - who? Do you come here often enough to be able to identify anonymous users?

>>109251063
True

>>109251095
obvious samefag

All this drama over a rooster

>>109251111
Checked. He's a big cock.

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>>109251078
>>109251100

>>109250941
is we getting beans counting

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>>109251077
i'm unironically afraid of touching sol ultra because it means having a million pajeets spawn out of thin air to run amok throughout my machine and wreak untold havoc upon it

>>109250977
not having codex mentioned anywhere in OP is smelly

>>109251111
beans
e
a
n
s

are the latest meta meta

soak them
boil them
instantpot
slow cook
antimatter
teleport
beans beans any way doesn't matter
beans beans mamma beans
bean bean bean forever

>>109251144
i want some beans now fuck

>>109251133
This motherfucker is starting to piss me off. It's been running for 6 1/2 hours with no clear end in sight. I'll see it through because I just want to see how much of a cluster fuck it caused.

>>109251078
nigger mentality

Don't use Sol Ultra if you don't want it to autistically go over a problem for six hours. Use xhigh instead but expect it to take ~45 minutes. If that is still too long for the task you have in mind use high.
Learn to fucking use AI, idiots.

if Tibo gives us another reset I'm going to die

>>109251181
ok debo

Marketing is the new moat
Code is cheap

>>109251199
I am at exactly 42% quota left, with the 5 hour limit resetting twice before my first banked reset expires later today. I can bring it to zero just in time to use that reset.

>>109251192
Sol Ultra needs to get it's nuts stomped on. This lil faggot is out of control on my computer. There's a new commit every 5-10 minutes because so much shit is running in parallel.

Submit your vibecoded shit on my shitty site anons!

https://vibecoding.rocks

rumor: gpt 6 is imminent and it is significantly better than sol or mythos

>>109251243
Buy an Ad.

>>109251243
no one here has actually made anything so you won't get any

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>>109251161
i'm so not ready to lose fable man. at least i know it'll respect the boundaries i set for it in the app, codex has always had problems with just ignoring the folders you give it to stay contained to but it seems like sol spawning agents is causing this problem really consistently instead of just the occasional issue the older releases had.

5.5 was already autistic about edge cases but Sol is on a different level still. Maybe the first model where I think that if you run it long enough, you will actually get fully correct software.

>>109251273
I like Fable, I just wish the security filters were smarter. Kind of difficult without invading privacy even more though.

>>109251269
I made stuff

>>109251249
It's over. Remember where we were at this time last year. Then the year before that. And the year before. So, it's over or it just started, but it's a different world.

>>109251278
It's hyper autistic, probably the most autistic model I've ever used.

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>>109251311
I remember when 4.1 was the best thing ever

>>109250934
I have two projects but I'm afraid of someone stealing my idea even though there's plenty of domain knowledge you need to have to reproduce them.

>>109251358
That's my favorite kind of idea to steal. Tell me what it is, the competition will be healthy.

>>109251325
I was literally blown away by the OpenAI Playground when they first showcased GPT-3. I couldn't believe such a thing was real and I instantly started vibe coding scripts (uploaded to my fresh github day 1).

>>109251364
So you see, it is a prototype that makes prototypes

How do i get into vibe coding? i have no programming skills. I know that AI is kinda killing oldskool programming and want to get on the next hype train early

>>109251463
Go to chatgpt.com or claude.ai, ask it how to start vibecoding. I'm not being sarcastic or facetious, step one of vibecoding is learning to ask the AI.

>>109251052
I like toasters. BSG was kino

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>Top scientist asked Claude to predict what Europe will look like in 2060
>What they saw terrified them

>>109251475
actually you should open X, search popular AI like gpt, claude, grok, glm etc and see what people are talking about in this month, get that tool and ask it about vibe coding
web chat are months behind on stuffs like this, save yourself the troubles

>>109251539
This font just raped my eyes. Truly felt that 2060 Europe experience, great product.

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>>109251558
Anon I don't know how long you've been asleep but they can search the internet now.

>>109251539
where can I play this?

the catalog is fucked up how are old threads getting bumped

>>109251590
4chan hacker

>>109251590
raped ape is vibecoding 4chan with grok

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>>109251599
true

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>cpu fan spinning up
>check ps
>

python -u -c import sys;exec(eval(sys.stdin.readline()))

x8

>>109251590
you mean past bump limit or something?
there's an old trick where you post and delete it to keep a thread bumped without using up posts towards bump limit

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kek wtf

>>109251734
kek what did it look up?

>>109251560
kek, ya the default raylib font is pretty awful. Just been low priority to change it.

>>109251577
Nowhere for now. Still very early stages, I will probably put it on itch at some point.

>>109251637
last thing luddies see

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>hard to reach the 5 hour cc limit
>easy to hit the 7 days cc limit
can we please balance this out a bit?

>>109248681
for https://github.com/tobi/qmd (uses locally-hosted models) assuming the model is retarded is the winning play
>>109249541
uv is the first python package manager that doesn’t suck
>>109248515
yeah but if I’m on the treadmill or at the gym that’s not easy to get to in a timely fashion
so I say “hey Siri, in OmniFocus, remind me to…” or something that lands the reminder in its inbox and then I can file the idea appropriately

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why are there so many brown coded posters in here

>>109251824
Tibo is handing out resets like candy what's the issue?

>>109251841
wasn't that just for the fable extension? I doubt we'll get a lot of those for the foreseeable future

>>109250977
I wasn’t the OP this time but I’m paranoid that someone else will accidentally dupe the thread or the thread will fall off page 10 or whatever
so when I see the italics I make a new thread
>>109251052
Eric S. Raymond is a literal boomer and he uses “AI friend” which is a good contrast with the average human Rustacean but it’s too creepy for me
“clanker” seems like the right level of detachment

>>109251068
>modern robots don’t clank
this is in my ~/.claude/settings.json

  "spinnerVerbs": {
    "mode": "replace",
    "verbs": [
      "*clank* *clank* *clank*",
      "*whirrr*",
      "[low-pitched hum]"
    ]
  },

>>109251838
>Approximately 43% to 47% of 4chan's user base is from the United States.

>>109251850
They gave at least one per week for the last two months I think. They gave lots of them. At some point they'll stop, but I still have 4 resets (that will expire unless used soon) banked, as do a lot of other people too.

>>109251881
>I still have 4 resets
that's a openai thing, isn't it? anthropic just resets it

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Tibo is secretly Pierce Brosnan

>>109251894
I've only used Claude but OpenAI definitely seems to be the more generous of the two

>>109251894
Ah, yes, got mixed up since parent poster was replying to someone mentioning the OpenAI guy constantly giving resets recently. Yes, Anthropic just resets.

Lately Anthropic has been kind of stingy in comparison, but my guess is that they'll take Fable away for a few days (or restrict it to the largest subscription tier), then give it back to everyone with a reset a few days after that.

>>109251850
oh... you are with anthropic
that sucks

>>109251936
fine by me
as long as fable is this cucked I have nothing to use it for that opus can't do. resets will be nice tho

>>109251869
actually the boomer aspect comes from feeling the need to anthropomorphize a computer program trained from reddit posts

>>109251975
I’ve had Fable neuter itself in the middle of long-running tasks but for many of these tasks I’m just having Opus workers…and a pre-neutered Fable did all the looking around and planning
so I suspect I’m not losing a whole lot

>>109251995
Anthropomorpizing inanimate objects and animals is a divine gift, anon. It would be an affront to Him to not do it.

>>109251996
yeah, but opus can do that as well
I wanna test it's limits on security and safety reviews, but it shits the bed immediately

>>109252005
naming things in the garden was the first sin
adam is a retard

>>109252011
oh, I’m just fixing bugs, some of which are security holes

>>109250934
The reason is because we are at a point where if you have some cash to spend on tokens you can replicate any solo project with no effort. Anon A made project that does X and is simple enough to vibecode with agents? Ok, then Anon B can make the same project by just telling their agent. This is the curse of the idea guys, when ideas are the only merit left you don’t want to share.

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>I'm vibing hard today

>>109252014
Without language we would still be animals.

>>109252047
that's the exact thinking that has doomed us for thousands of years

>>109252037
>can replicate any solo project with no effort
Not really. If you're satisfied with "having something", yes, but if you want to materialize what you have in mind in a way that won't crumble and then take that through the whole deployment process, that still takes effort.

>>109252042
is this real

>>109252090
>>109229448

>>109251838
AI is brown coded

>>109252104
why is it ALWAYS anthropic? they should put the meth pipe down and focus on building a better product

>>109252134
no it isnt

>>109252104
>>109252145
emergent organs implies that smaller models are better, at least in some cases 8^))))

>>109252166
Only brown people love AI.

>>109252213
Nice try, israel.

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>>109252213
Hey I got a call for you

I fucking hate fable. it flags working on the AUTH system in my code

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>>109252216
>>109252218
>t. brownoid

>>109252282
Those are asians. Also, I don't want to be around a rabbi, even a transgender rabbi.

the 50% weekly usage increase runs out in a few days for claude
start spreading FUD

>>109252209
so jews call tumors "organs"? that's the j-space? Dario be smokin crack yo

>>109252294
The increase never existed.

I don't know if it's just my psychosis but fable has felt oddly more performant now that like two days ago.

>>109252294
>getting ass kicked by Sam
>taking away fable in a few days
>50% usage increase in a few days
They are doing amazing things over there at Anthro

>>109251936
>then give it back to everyone with a reset a few days after that.
lol

>>109252348
You're right, Scamthropic made it up but they might still reduce your weekly usage limits by 33% after July 13

>>109252365
Ya, not sure what the plan is there. Surely they have to make Fable permanently available right? Even if only a limited capacity

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I don't vibecode (well, maybe a little) but I vibework, can I join? ._. I have just about automated my job with cowork

>>109251576
>>109251558
>>109251475
ty i will do that

Is it possible to get claude code to stream thinking instead dumping it all at once only after it's done?

very fundamental question, what kind of models are used for coding? Are they also text gen LLMs or something else?

>>109252544
ask for that

Gonna give Fable the ultimate test. It has to write a flight program for my custom JNO rocket, from the pad to payload deploy. It must be able to account for different payloads and later different inclinations. After that it will have to do the same except for a F9-style rocket with suicide burn landings.

>>109252569
yeah, text-gen LLMs
some of them have been extra tuned for programming

>>109252582
Are you speedrunning getting an account banned?

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Thinking about upgrading to the $100 plan lads

>>109252613
do it

>>109252613
you don’t have to stay at $100/month forever
you can drop down once you get the bulk of your work banged out

>turns out the openai banked resets have expiration
>can barely use my quota as it is
>have several to use this month
so it was a marketing gimmick all along.

>>109252658
>turns out
They told you from day 1.

>>109252658
>>turns out the openai banked resets have expiration
We've known about this

idea, free to good home
> [generated webpage] is helping me understand this issue but what would help me even more is a diagram off to the side (I have a 5K monitor running at 1440p CSS pixels) showing a flowchart of the data. make it stay in place and visible as I scroll down because I’m going to need it as a reference the whole time

>>109252663
>>109252664
"banked" implies no expiration date

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>>109252658
yeah you got tricked into not using fable while it was available
thanks for not straining the queue nigger

>>109252658
>near unlimited usage on gpt
>almost zero usage on claude
yeah, pretty good marketing gimmick

>>109252678
i was using fable though, that's why i have so much codex usage
i'm pissed actually because the only thing i could spam codex at it's not good at (non-programming task)

>>109252675
central-bank digital currency banking

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>he's still using 5.6
Are you keeping backups, anon?

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>>109252742
delete this

>>109252830
nah I'm getting ready for gpt6

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>>109252830

>want to keep some fable usage in case they extend it again
cool

>>109252830
yes I have git commit

>>109252846
hi

>>109252830
Deserved for using that font thoughbeit

>>109252846
Mine resets monday before I wake up, its pretty nice. Sucks you cant set when you want your weekly reset

>>109252947
why not email tibo

>>109252972
tibo is fat

I made a new site where I list my vibecoded games and other silly fun stuff.

https://vibecoded.fun

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Made a masonry view for my imageboard, does it look good?

>>109253016
Can you make a baldi game?

>>109252475
What's your job and what did you do?

>>109253037
I'm Head Accountant in a accounting firm, I automated all my work and just chill now

>>109253082
based

>>109253082
You replaced yourself at work? How long until they realize this and every job like yours just gets automated. I hope you have a backup plan for work. You could probably only get away with this for a few years.

>>109253106
I work directly for the CEO, have been here for the past decade, there are plenty of heads to cut before he would ever think of going for mine, also come on you really think he is going to run the whole company by himself? I might have AI doing all the work but I'm there to ensure it is correct before it goes to the clients and such.

>>109253115
>nepotism is... le good
You're a pajeet

>>109252830
Sandboxing exists in codex. It is on by default. Whoever had that happen was only asking for it and deserved it.

>>109253122
I got into this company as an intern, I EARNED my position you fucker

>>109253115
Yeah... you're 100% gonna lose that job to someone else who will do it for much cheaper than you. I give it a few years.

>>109253146
In a few years I'm either gonna be the new CFO or be in another company (maybe my own? who knows). I'm really not worried.

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>>109253016
Nice, dude.

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Hey Brian I appreciate it. I will look into the bug

>>109253016
Why isn't this a tryCloudflare like my website is?

>>109253251
qrd

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>>109253125
literally all you have to do is ask chatgpt if it's "true" sandboxing on operating systems that aren't macOS. spoiler: it isn't and you are rolling dice every time you use it. but you don't know this because not only do you not vibecode, you don't even REGULAR code!

>>109253298
Is that video ai?

Codex 5X subscription:

47 minutes of 5.6 Sol Ultra consumed:
> 98% of 5-hour limit
> 15% of the weekly limit

That means we get about 5 hours of Sol Ultra/week.

So the 20X plan is probably something like:
> 3 hours and 20 minutes of 5.6 Sol Ultra will consume 100% of your 5 hour limit
> 20 hours of Sol Ultra per week

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there's no fucking way they take fable off subscriptions when 5.6 is out right
like even if it's deleting entire root directories, it's the next best thing after fable and nobody is going back to opus after experiencing fable it's just not even close

>>109253303
No man it says IA in the top right. That means Is Authentic.

>>109253303
are you retarded? is this a serious question? of course that's not generated by ai. why did you even bother asking this are you just trying to be funny?

>>109252658
Resets are really, really good if you actually use your plan. If you're on pro then maybe you really don't need them at all

>>109252658
My steak is too juicy aah post

>>109253321
damn niqqa lighten up take a hit

>>109252658
> the pussy is too tight and wet bros

>>109253251
Because I have a VPS I run numerous things on and I like managing the server myself and setting everything how I want.

>>109253337
no???????? maybe if you left your hovel once in your fucking life you'd see peanutbutterballmen once in a while dipshit

>>109253312
you might be able to get pretty far with Fable (at API rates) orchestrating Opus workers
so instead of getting a $200/month sub you’d get a $100/month sub and have a usage-credit cap of $100/month that goes toward Fable use
>>109253298
I saw https://smolmachines.com on https://pinboard.in/popular the other day
I can’t vouch for it, but if you want extra padding on Linux, you can get it

>>109253350
hovel deez

>>109253350
ayo you funny g

>>109253037
i'm a recruiter and have basically replaced half my day with AI. I think recruiting will eventually get replaced by AI but I'll ride the wave for now, because all the client facing stuff can't be AI yet.

>>109253372
Can you recruit me?

>>109253357
kek

>>109253312
yeah hopefully, nothing really as good as fable

>>109253374
what field of work? I don't do tech, I do more construction, low voltage, fire, security/access control/detention, type stuff.

>>109253391
sent you an email, give it a look

I demand another reset from Tibo

>>109253420
brb

>>109253312
I am thinking the same thing, but then, why would they not just announce its staying? By making it sound limit its going to encourage people to max out their plans and burn all the tokens they can, which to my understanding costs anthropic money? If they where going to keep it around why not just say so now and have at least some people take their foot off the gas?

Did Sam win the argument today

>>109253433
I figure there’s some kind of “we want to judge demand” thing and they don’t want to commit to anything just yet
especially since their costs are probably fluctuating wildly and they might not know how much compute they can get in the future at what price
also they might have something big they want to use their GPUs for soon, and that big project was pushed back by a week on the 7th, and they’re only going to need all GPUs on deck starting Monday at midnight

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>>109253433
i would assume because they don't want people who would spend on tokens to be shy on spending right now. they unceremoniously extended fable's availability period last time, so who knows?
but opus does not compete with 5.6 at all. but fable easily clears it, but it's way more expensive. anthropic kinda has to keep it around. i'm also just coping because i don't want to lose fable

fable is mid

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How did elon fuck up so bad?
He couldn't even outprice deepseek.

>>109253549
Grok 4.5 is priced like Kimi K2.7 and GLM 5.2

>>109253558
are you a chinese user? how is china doing? do they have opus level now? i wouldn't mind having an extra sub

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>>109253568
I'm trying ZCode + GLM5.2 lowest tier ($16 per month) on a few side projects, so far so good. Just don't use superpowers because it's a token sink and is in conflict with ZCode's own planning harness

>>109253568
GLM 5.2 is the first usable China model. In some very specific aspects it's Opus 4.8 quality, but in reality it's more like Opus 4.6 / GPT 5.4 tier. Genuinely impressive, first usable Chinese model in my opinion, closest they've gotten yet. Decent value, though Z.ai as a provider is shit and should be avoided. If don't already have OpenAI and Anthropic subs, that's still the better place to start.

>>109252414
Why lol?

>>109252414
I'd bet good money they'll give a reset on the 13 to make the 33% reduction of overall quota pass better.

>>109253689
>33% reduction
Oof, didnt know about this. Reset + losing Fable (which burns double rate) will definitely help "hide" that reduction a bit

Does Luna last longer on a plus codex plan than sol would?
How would that impact Hermes agent?
I'm not paying per token like you guys.

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>>109253718
Usage had been temporarily increased in May, and is scheduled to go back to normal the 13th.

>>109253737
they never raised it but you can be damn sure they are lowering it

>>109253737
That increase supposedly coincided with the switch to a tokenizer that used 30% more tokens, or so they said. So, kind of.

>>109253737
33% of 50%

they will release opus 5 by the end of this month

>>109253797
I mean, if it started at 1 and they increased it 50%, it becomes 1.5. To bring back 1.5 to 1, that's a decrease by a third.

>>109253805
What's the point? Opus is supposed to be the flagship, they made that Fable. What's the place of Opus now? It fills the role Sonnet had? Well, what does Sonnet 5 do then, fill Haiku's role? Then what does Haiku..

>>109253837
Fable is the lead engineer
Opus is senior developer
Sonnet is junior developer
Haiku is intern

>>109253855
maybe if your intern has downs

kek, I'm doing circles around my trad programming friends at this point
Honestly feel a bit bad they wasted time on the degree

>>109253911
computer science degree was pretty worthless even before AI

i keep running into my claude 5 hour session limit, but i never ever run into my weekly limit because im actually employed
should i go ahead and bump up to the $200 subscription instead regardless?

>>109253919
I have a comp sci degree. Never learned any programming language.

You now remember GPT-5.3-Codex-Spark exists

>>109253985
Lol. They probably got stuck in a contract with Cerebras.
I'd rather use free OpenCode than use that garbage.

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>about to hit 1B tokens spent om this 5.6 Sol Ultra goal
>it's been working for 12 hours

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Man what a week it’s been for AI

>>109254109
post the video asshole

>>109254135
everyone involved in this story should die etc etc

>>109250977
Based

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>>109253934

>>109254109
>I’d put the documented roadmap at roughly 80% complete end-to-end (mid-to-high 80s for implementation alone); the remaining weight is the still-large main renderer, deeper firmware ownership, final clean artifact verification, and the external privileged hardware run.
KWAB

holy shit luna is so fucking good.

>>109254236
Really? Compare to?

>>109254258
sonnet

you will NOT make me renew a "subscription"
or "refill" my "tokens"
i WILL use gemini-cli for free

>>109253304
Is sol max not good enough for you?

>>109254313
For some reason there's no way to select max on Codex, only xHigh and then Ultra

>>109253737
I have been a power user of claude code since early releases and I can tell you without a doubt that they mess with the limits fairly often. I was able to achieve and do much more with Opus 4.6 when compared to Opus 4.8.
The token economy will either force them to increase limits so they get on par with the other labs or everyone will increase their prices / decrease limits. If the latter happens, it will be paramount to use multiple models, including local, to execute low-level tasks.

>>109254135
what is a short-term space datacenter?

>>109254385
It's the same concept as starlink where the satellites fall back into earth after a few years

So... will they really delete fable for us non API peasants today?

>>109254411
Who knows. I moved from 20x to 5x. I'll spend the next week exploring other models, and others will likely as well.

Anthropic wasted three weeks of lead due to their marketing stunt, that gave time to OpenAI and others to catch up. I think that will be seen as the big fumble when people will study what happened to Anthropic in a few years.

my anthropic sub expired on the 9th. and i have discovered that i genuinely don't miss it. especially not with the 5.6 family, and i'm not even talking about sol

>>109254434
But what if, and I'm just thinking out loud here, we removed access to our best model and cut your weekly quota by a third.
>t. Dario

quads and Fable stays

>>109254444
you have to screenshot and send it to dario or it won't work

>>109254444
did fable write you the get script

>>109254444
FUCK YES

>>109254444
Fable is literally AGI

haiku 5 has to match luna or it's ogre

> no 5.6-nano
> we're still at 5.4 nano

GIVE ME CHEAP TINY MODELS!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEE

They could even name it 5.6 Ceres since it's way smaller than Luna

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>>109254546
It's called "Luna", use it.

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>Sol Ultra still refactoring 13 hours later
was 5.5 really that fucking bad? I'm reading through it's thoughts and it's constantly alluding to how terrible the architecture was.

>>109254619
possibly
one common complaint about clanker work is that it tends to put code in suboptimal places
you probably could have gotten good cleanup work with 5.5, but if you’re only waiting until Sol to come out you probably have a big fat tangled mess

>>109254619
The model is hand-tuned to shit on previous iterations. It's marketing. Stop letting Scam and Dario manipulate your emotions.

One more day vibbing with Fabble :DDDD

>>109254109
>>109254619
wait you guys mean its been in the [thinking] phase for half a day? wtf

Noticed an interesting thing about Grok. In its thoughts it still acts like a quirky chungus redditor, shitting out emojis and "hope it helps!" nonsense, but the final output is very cold and on-topic.

>>109254844
harness must be telling it to take its meds

Idea on how to build ASI:
> compile knowledge knowledge humans had at the year 1878 (before Einstein was born). This knowledge can be synthetic
> train models with only this data
> find a model capable of figuring out relativity on its own with only Newtonian knowledge
This is V1, now for V2:
> take notes of the training method that generated this AI
> cutoff knowledge cutoff to the year 1643, before Newton was born
> train until we find an AI capable of figuring out both Newton's laws and relativity
> Keep cutting knowledge base of until an AI trained with fewer and fewer knowledge is capable of figuring out these things

Then just ask it to solve cancer, aging, space travel and every other issue we have.

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i dont even feel any rush to use up my fable usage rn. its so obvious fable isnt going anywhere. at most it might go away for a few days to a week, but they simply cant let it go right now.
enterprises like to root into services and stay there. every passing day where anthropic is being outclassed is another day where business/enterprise executives note that and swing their ai spend decisions toward openai. especially around an IPO, it just cant be done. and they clearly have the compute, hence the reset (and the 50% fable usage is only for the 50% increase promo, when usage decreases 33%, fable will just be part of the full weekly limit

>>109254972
I also doubt they aren't dumb enough to remove Fable, but it's Anthropic we're talking about.

They should at least release Opus 5 before removing Fable so they don't get mogged too hard by Sol

Yo guys has anyone so far managed to make things happen with your voice? I want to vibecode with my mouth.

>>109255072
a lot of my stuff depends on me punctuating very explicitly
have you tried letting sam altman and dario amodei listen to you talk or do you just use your OS’s built-in voice recognition?

>>109254959
Ok, try it

>>109255072
I tried to use whisper to prompt with my voice, but it's kinda clunky and I usually like to reiterate and change the prompt as I go, so I have to either type a bit to change some stuff or re-dictate the entire thing, which is more annoying.

>>109255072
idk i love typing long paragraphs

>>109255075
nah, I don't have enough GPUs

>>109255072
My boss does that, but I prefer typing. Sometimes I will also copy paste a path to a file, or an image, so just staying at the keyboard makes that easier, I feel like my work is more precise with the keyboard, but my boss still gets results.
Voice can be better if you don't like typing and subconsciously leave out details to save time typing.

Why does gemini keep hallucinating that its actually building something when only claude is compiling

>>109255153
didn’t eat enough rocks today, clearly

has anyone seen an X post saying when Fable goes away today? I figure it’ll be at midnight Pacific like the last Fable window was set to end, but I don’t know for sure

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LGTM

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>>109255292
You mog me. I had Sol check it at least, seemed fine after a few rounds.

>if you had to reapproach this project from the ground up in order to do the same output in a more refined, elegant, efficient, flexible, snappy way how would you do it

often yields a nice upgrade after some bugfixing

Where is the anon with the Desktop commander fork to have unlimited Sol?

>>109255355
I'm here
Have you used the normal desktop commander version? Are you having issues with it? You don't really need to have it fully locally unless their server is having issues, it's harder to set up than the normal version.

>>109255375
>Have you used the normal desktop commander version?
Not yet, but as I understand it's to give the browser chat session tools to manipulate files. I prefer running things locally so I can debug/vibepatch/understand things better.
You'd recommend using their MCP server and call it a day?
How's the code quality compared to the cli?

>it's harder to set up than the normal version.
I can handle it. I run my vibebox in a lxc without root and varlock.

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>>109254258
Luna high is GLM 5.2 level, xhigh is almost Opus 4.8 level and max is GPT 5.5 xhigh level on DeepSWE which is insane. Low and medium are bad but I imagine at those levels, you use it for general search, consolidation and etc.
Strictly speaking, you can use the 5.6 models given coding performance here in this tier list:
> Model Configuration|DeepSWE Pass@1|Avg. Cost|Quota Consumed (Credits)|Output Tokens|Resolution Steps|Pass@1 Points per $|Cost per Successful Run*
> gpt-5.6-luna[low]|2%±1%|$0.07|1.75|3.1k|12|28.6|$3.50
> gpt-5.6-luna[medium]|11%±1%|$0.22|5.50|8.2k|24|50.0|$2.00
> gpt-5.6-terra[low]|24%±1%|$0.43|10.75|8.6k|21|55.8|$1.79
> gpt-5.6-terra[medium]|35%±3%|$0.58|14.50|12k|25|60.3|$1.66
> gpt-5.6-luna[high]|44%±3%|$0.78|19.50|26k|49|56.4|$1.77
> gpt-5.6-sol[low]|45%±2%|$1.07|26.75|11k|23|42.1|$2.38
> gpt-5.6-terra[high]|54%±4%|$1.13|28.25|22k|34|47.8|$2.09
> gpt-5.6-luna[xhigh]|57%±2%|$1.54|38.50|45k|71|37.0|$2.70
> gpt-5.6-sol[medium]|61%±2%|$1.86|46.50|18k|31|32.8|$3.05
> gpt-5.6-luna[max]|67%±4%|$3.03|75.75|73k|102|22.1|$4.52
> gpt-5.6-sol[high]|69%±1%|$3.47|86.75|28k|37|19.9|$5.03
> gpt-5.6-sol[xhigh]|71%±1%|$4.70|117.50|41k|44|15.1|$6.62
> gpt-5.6-sol[max]|73%±3%|$8.39|209.75|60k|61|8.7|$11.49
>Cost per Successful Run = Avg. Cost ÷ Pass@1 probability.
And then if you calculate efficiency as Pass@1 point per Avg. Cost
> Tier|Luna (Pass@1÷Cost)|Terra (Pass@1÷Cost)|Sol (Pass@1÷Cost)|Most Efficient
> Low|2÷0.07=28.6|24÷0.43=55.8|45÷1.07=42.1|Terra
> Medium|11÷0.22=50.0|35÷0.58=60.3|61÷1.86=32.8|Terra
> High|44÷0.78=56.4|54÷1.13=47.8|69÷3.47=19.9|Luna
> Xhigh|57÷1.54=37.0|60÷2.13=28.2|71÷4.70=15.1|Luna
> Max|67÷3.03=22.1|70÷4.95=14.1|73÷8.39=8.7|Luna
>
> Metric: Pass@1 Points per $ = Pass@1 percentage ÷ Avg. Cost
> Overall peak: Terra[medium] = 35÷0.58 = 60.3 points/$
> Crossover: Terra leads at Low–Medium; Luna leads at High–Max
So yeah, Terra is good but there isn't a point to use it above medium. Might as well use Luna then switch to Sol.