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lexar bros report in
buy a 9070xt
>Patriot Viper Hynix White
>>109299420this guy has been reviewing tech longer than some of you have been alive
>>1092994313dgameman says the 9070xt is goat and he's been on YouTube longer than GN or Linus
>>109299447ok
I can literally see all the numbersI am safe for now
>>109299511
lol
>>109299522
>>109299431i should know. i am him.
>>109299431Decades of sucking cock means he must be pretty good
>>109299545tiny tom logan from oc3d does not post on 4chan
>>109299447are non-removable motherboard trays still his arch nemesis?
>>109299553https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vmbipmEWxI
this is late capitalism in the hardware spacebought a gpu? you have to babysit it so it doesn't self-immolate and destroy your house.bought a screen? you have to babysit it so it doesn't gets permanently marked by it's own technology.companies used to be responsible for what they put out for sale, but now, it's just meant to die a few months after warranty runs out and no one will do anything about it.there are no more civic organized groups fighting for the benefit of the majority, government is a bunch of thugs profiting from every tweet sent.things are really bad and soon only violence will be able to put things straight.
>>109299571this does not disprove my statement
>>109299574it's what happens when capitalism is just a codeword for mass produced products in china
I'm coming Dr. Phil
cannot decide whether I want an ultrawide 34inch or a 27inch 4k I only play single player games btwI am basically deciding between ultrawide and extra immersion or normal aspect ratio but wayy higher ppi and detail
>>10929963932" 4k for single player games27" 4k is good for a mix of things+ productivity, but less immersive for gaymin
>>109299639>27 inch 4ki'd never run a display that i can't use at 100% or 200% scaling. i'd go for the ultrawide.
>>109299604capitalism has always been a codeword for making number go up by any means necessary. It's only the regulations that keep it from eating people that make it the best solution.
>>109299579kek, imagine that's the way he would advertise on here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FStfdGjAwclove this guys channel
It's Joever for the little guy, where is a made guy gonna price check his gabagool (GPU,SSD)?
>>109299681he is great but he makes like 2 videos a year these days
>>109299692he needs to find the PASSION to make a video which i find commendable. his videos aren't just slop for ads
>>109299684works on my machine
>>109299647>>109299649why do people act as if 27" is small with 32" I would be forced to sit further back(where I would then need my glasses) and then gaming would no longer be as immersive
>>109299748because 27" is kind of small unless you are sitting at a normal distance. you cannot play games from your bed on a 27" screen for example. even 32" is a little too small
Is 32" overkill for a desktop monitor between 50-90cm from me eyes?
>>10929974827 inch is just too small for 4k to run at 100% and to big for 200%. 5k would be ideal at that size
>>109299611Save me Rosie O'Donnell
>>109299753should you not be optimizing for the normal distance?if you are going to be using it from far away you have a different normal distance
>>109299758if eye to monitor distance is above 70cm then you would probably want to go 32"
>>109299797anon the recommended distance for 1440 27" is 80cm. 32" is like 1m
>>109299858we're talking about 4k 27inch
>>109299431What year?
Bestbuy's probably gonna ban my ass with how many times I've reserved this 9070 xt and had it cancelled due to not picking it up because I'm so indecisive
what are some good slim fans that are not Noctuas
>>109300264scythe used to be good
>>109300264Thermalright and Silverstone have some, no idea if they're as good or better than noctua you'll have to look up reviews.
Is 4k worth it?Is OLED worth it?Is 240Hz refresh rate worth it?Currently on an old ass 24" 1080p 60Hz LCD and I have no experience with any of the above.
>>109300484NoYesYes
>>109299384>5060Bad advice, the 5060 Ti 8 GB is barely more expensive
>>109300519>8 GB
>>109299858>>109299884
hmmmmm. i cant help but notice the lack of a 9950x3d2 and blackwell 6000 in the OP.
>>109300519Who even recommends 8gb gpus to anyone in 2026
>>109300550Neither of those are recommended purchases, if you need one you aren't browsing for recommendations.
>>109300519Price difference is nearly the same as the performance difference between those two cards.But sometimes you can find 5060Ti for just $30 more, then it's worth considering over 5060.
>>109300550both are stop gaps until better refined products show up
>>109300548Gayben knows what's up.
>>109300572i recommend both of them all the time THO?
>>109300525>>109300552>comparison between two 8 gb cards>the vram retards crawl out of the woodworkYou guys will always be the lowest IQ of /pcbg/
>>109300775not as low iq as the people who consider buying a new 8gb gpu in 2026
>>109300548> Grizzly industrial dust collectorwhat does gaben use this for?
>>109300484Noso soYes
>>109300484Yes to allDefault specs if you aren't broke are 32" 4K 240 Hz OLED
>>109300880Valve engineers might need it in their hardware R&D lab.
>>109300880Cancelled De_Dust III prop
>>1093004844K is more of a single player gaming resolution.It will take a relatively strong PC to sustain 240 FPS at this resolution even with upscaling and frame generation.It depends on the PC you have, the type of games you play, and the graphics settings you usually set.If you're asking these questions, you probably don't play competitive multiplayer games much.>But 4K for MMOs! Big UI real estate!The bottleneck for MMOs is other people.Maybe (you)self if you have poor social skills or just bad at the game.
>>109300484consult the L33T-Plato's cave.
>>109301261I agree he should get a 32" 4k ultra wide qdoled at the minimum, best would be a 39/42" 4k ultrawide
>>109300550That's because zen6 will be out soon and recommending that when it will be obsolete in 4-6months is stupid.
>>109301163>It depends on the PC you have, the type of games you play, and the graphics settings you usually set.the only multiplayer games worth playing can run on a potatoe.
Heres a technological ideawireless earbuds, but with low latency dongle so you can use a pc with noice canceling, no headband scalp deformation, no annoying wires, and you have low latency to watch youtube/play games and mass manufactured by chinks so it costs like 50€
>>109301392Windows is incapable of low latency wireless audio so at best this will be for Android/iPhone
>>109301335do you really believe this?
>when you see it
>>109301713Yes, zen6 for data centers comes out in 2 weeks so it's obvious that the consumer version will be out next year. No point for AMD to sit on zen6 for years instead of releasing it for consumers.
For AIO>Cooler Master Masterliquid Core Nex Digitalor>MSI MAG CORELIQUID A13
>>109301760arctic
>>109301760Noctua aio
ram prices will get even worse won't they
>>109301830They're certainly not going to get better until late '28 at the earliest. But even in 2030, you're not going to see low prices like the good old days
>>109301744man. i wish i was still like you.
>>109301885I find it funny that people are so absolutely sure when prices will "get better"
>>109301885Prices will lower in 2027 but we won't be back to the good old days for a while.
>>109301885most of the data centers got cancelled but ram manufacturers decided to price fix
decided to not get the nitro+ 9070xt, it does seem that connector could be a potential pain in the ass, sohttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/snDNphfinal draft, any last minute suggestions?I ned to pull the trigger before rpices fuck up, again
>>109302274Yikes.Ouch.lotta money to spend on a non-PT GPU.
>>109302286Use case for PT?
>>109302294Playing new games?Isn't that the reason to buy a new GPU?What are you planning on playing?
>>109302297There are no new games worth playing that are PT-only
>>109302274kingston had really bad write speeds after less than a minute in the past
>>109302297>Playing new games?>Isn't that the reason to buy a new GPU?not all new games have pt and not all new games with pt are worth playing
>>109302305Then don't spend like $700 on a new GPU?Wait until there's actual games out you want to play and AMD has a competitive GPU?
>>109300484the S95H S99H (or a discount s95f) Samsung TV is THE Best gaymen display on the marketIf you wanna step below this everything else will be a downgradeyou can downgrade to a tandem woled tv if you wantyou could downgrade from a tandemwoled tv to a woled tvafter that you could downgrade to a qdoled monitor or tandemwoled monitor or a woled monitorIf you own anything else it will all be a second best and a step down, you will always be insecure and second guessing yourselfmuch like not owning a 5090but if you are already at the top there is simply nothing more to strive for, you will finally be contempt in your life with a purchase you made"Gee I wish I didnt by a 5090 and double my money to what they are now" -Said no one, everSame thing applies here, except Samsung has horrid QC and your shit might break at a random time so get warranty, but there is no where else to goThanks for this infomercial
>>109302317Then what games are you playing?What games do you see yourself playing in the future?You're spending a significant chunk of change on computer hardware, surely you've thought about this?
>>109302305the fuck is PT?that ps3 demo?
>>109300484yes 4k is worth it for the extra space
>>109302333path tracing
>>109302324There are no PT capable GPUs today except the 4090 for 720p and 5090 for 1080pYour premise of requiring PT is written in bad faith, probably done to shill Nvidia at any cost
>>109302333Path Tracing, it's the new standard of Raytracing that's being adopted and gradually becoming relevant. 9070XT is a bit like buying the GTX 1660 when the RTX 2060 is out.Like, yeah, it's not a bad card, but you're making a choice to gimp yourself to only playing specific types of games from here on in, and that's fine if you're down with that. But, most times you'd be better off just waiting a year for the next series of GPUs.
>>109302354>Path Tracing, it's the new standard of Raytracing that's being adopted and gradually becoming relevant.has like 5 games and non of which are good
>>109302330>What games do you see yourself playing in the future?single player games. old games I haven't played, missed the last 10-13 years of gaming because irl bs, for now I really just want to get bg3, cyberpunk, stellar blade in the next steam sale if possiblemutiplayer goes on xbox, or games with physical release (also switch 2coming in soon)my days of tryharding are over, also linux so I cant into anticheat bs,I'm getting a pc I dont want to touch for 5-7 years if possible
I have 4x 32GB DDR5 RAM sticks, is there any place I can trade them for 2x64GB sticks?
>>1093023772x64gb kits are worth more than two 2x32gb kits put together so I doubt itUnless you get lucky and find someone with 2x64gb who wants to split it into two kits for some reason
>ask for opinions>guys start fightingnever change guys
>>109302354>>109302360and who is to say that pt is not going to get replaced by an even better standard in the future just like ray tracing has apparently.
>>109302377You can sell the 4x32gb as 2 sets of 2x32gb and make 80-90% of what a 2x64gb kit costs.
>>109302428Koneko sex but Kuroka is even more SEX
>>1093024322x64gb kits costs triple of a 2x32gb kit
>>109302445You can find some for $2k and 2x32gb sells for $1k so he should at least get 50%
Official /pcbg/ browser?
>>109302583Anything Firefox based for full compatibility with ublock origin
>>109302593Since the end of mv2 support loomed for chrome I simply moved over to uo lite, and using other extensions to do stuff origin used to do like hide youtube shorts
>>109302583me at the bottom
>>109302429Well, I mean.... Nvidia?Nvidia is the only one developing new technologies here. Every gen is just AMD playing catch up.
>>109302612so we are going to see another standard and another one and another one and nobody is going to support those just like physix and hair works and the other crap they made. gotcha.
>>109302612With AMD it's one or the other. They do not have the revenue that Nvidia has to dump R&D into both their CPU and GPU departments.
>>109302583furryfox because ublock origin
>>109302619>company pushes graphix forward by pouring a lot rnd and talent on hard problems>this makes anon sad
>>109302636not what i said. burn another straw man nigger.
>>109301729i guess no one saw it
>MSI MAG PANO 110R PZthis good?
Microsoft's new Surface Laptop Ultra might be one of the most interesting Windows PCs this year.>NVIDIA RTX Spark platform>ARM CPU + Blackwell RTX GPU on a single chip>Up to 128GB of unified memory>CUDA support for AI and creative workloads>Windows on ARM gaming is about to get a serious testI saw RTX Spark first hand at Computex 2026, and the local AI aspects performed beautifully with Hermes, OpenClaw, and creative apps like Photoshop and Premiere (in a controller environment). Gaming performed well with both ARM and x86 based Steam games (Alan Wake 2 and Pragmata, respectively).
>>109302619Why are you fanboying over billion dollar companies?
>>109302687not what i said.
>>109302692I think refusing to admit that AMD is kinda dropping the ball on GPUs is kinda fanboy, desu.You should be expecting better from them than just constantly playing catch up and being slightly cheaper.
>>109302677Looks fine, another panoramic/dual chamber/fish tank case.I don't like the MSI dragon emblem on the front of the case, but it's just my opinion.
>>109301760Only the best bang for the buck!This thing could cool a nuclear meltdown.
>>109302745I think I saw artic being dead last in perf on some noctua aio review comparison table
>>109302678Like the Ryzen Max, it's still too weakThe N2X will be the true world-changer
>>109302748> on some noctua aio reviewquelle surprise mon capitaine!
>>109302720>>109302619all this new tech and investment and it just got abandoned by everyone. only one thing in common with all of it.
>>109302748The next Liquid Freezer needs a better mounting unit/pump.The thicker radiator and the new Pro fans are carrying that AIO.
>>109302810They'll have to make one themselves or wait for asetek to make one and buy it from them.
>>109302810I had no problem with the installation after analyzing how the mounting system is supposed to work. The pump just needs to be throttled to 2050 rpm to be silent. This also increases it's life expectancy.
I was looking at a 5070 coming from a 3060ti. One thing I don't like about my 3060ti is how loud it can get. It's a dual fan zotac. What is a 5070 model that is as quiet as let's say an Xbox series x(its a very quiet machine)
In a recent podcast that Jensen was on in paris, he mentioned that Nvidia wants to be more than just a AI/GPU company and did mention getting into publishing.If Nvidia say purchased rockstar, yes they can afford it, could we eventually see an era where by owning Nvidia products you're granted in game items? Or possibly even having games that Nvidia publishes run specifically better on Nvidia based gpus or cpus?Imagine if GTA 6 was published under nvidia's gaming brand. We could see a possibility that the game runs best on their RTX spark CPUs and Nvidia gpus. This would severely hurt AMD because AMD does not have the cash flow to do anything other than gpus and cpus. They cannot afford to be a publisher.
I've been having all sorts of pc issues over the last month. I've replaced the motherboard (from an asus z690 to an msi z790), replaced the cpu (13700 > 14900) and replaced the ram (faulty 64gb kit to a stable 16gb kit). Should I reinstall Windows?
>>109302920you should install linux.
>>109302876most 3 fan coolers with regular sized heatsinks and ptm pads should be pretty quietthen you can use msi afterburner to reduce bolts and fan max speeds to make it quieter
>>109302928Thought about it (I spent half of last year on arch) but right now i just want stability
>>109302949>>109302928(fedora)
https://x.com/i/status/2078177922012402087Why does this take so long? AI translations are almost as good as a human.
>>109303032JP/KR to EN machine translations aren't there yet
>>109303032They constantly output slop and need an actual translator to oversee them, same as vibe coding if you don't have someone who knows how things work you'll get a crap product.
>>109303110the absolute state of Elongated Muskrat's "AI" capabilities
what are the chances an updated version comes out soon? should be better than the ktc in the op if it does.
>>109302920Did you keep up with the 13/14th gen CPU degradation issues?You need to update the board BIOS to the one with the latest CPU microcode (12F).https://community.intel.com/t5/Mobile-and-Desktop-Processors/Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-Vmin-Shift-Instabilty-Update-New/m-p/1686948
>>109302612Nvidia is developing new excuses to justify their marginally faster gen over gen GPUs that continue to skimp on memory.
>>109303296First rule of oled club, don't buy miniled
>>109303354First rule of QD OLED club don't buy woled garbage.
>>109302920i need to anti-plaque wash my teeth
>>109302911The fear is palpable. Realistically, the worst that would happen is that Nvidia would embarrass other publishers because its games would already have neural texture compression, RTX IO, RTX Geometry, full PT with excellent denoising, etc while reviewers like HWUB and GN seethe about the graphics
>>109303333the rtx pro 6000 has 96gb THO
>>109303354was kind of looking at the G50SF but I'm at my pc like 12+ hours a day so I just don't know if I want to baby an oled. I like to keep my shit for 10 years as well and I just don't think oled will survive that long.
>>109303359First rule of RGB Stripe QDOLED club, don't buy gen1-4 pentile garbage.
>>109303333i rather have that, otherwise you have 2 companies with their own 12volt cable fuck up
>>109303458*teleports behind u**uses 80ppi QDOLED tv as main display**owari da*
>>109303409Yeah and the MI350P has 144, but that doesn't make it a recommended product for the end user.
>>109303437>lcd last for a decade guaranteed>minileds don't die faster than oledstwo false statements
first rule of being straight don't buy anything -oled/ -led and make fun of this tranny display tech for being absolute cucksoomer dogshit
I'm looking to potentially replace my ancient mobo, so I've been looking at AM5 CPUs. Gonna do a lot of gaming, but primarily older stuff and autistic simulators and whatnot. There'll definitely also be some web hosting, libvirt VMs, coding and general work like that. I moved most of my shit to Arch but still dual boot windows for some stuff that doesn't yet work on linux. I wanted to go with a Ryzen 7, but I have no idea if there's a point in getting anything from the 3D lineup. I plan to keep the RTX2060 for a while longer and IDK if the 3D CPUs would bring any benefit or potentially cause more complexity and issues, especially under Linux?
Should I write-protect this or will it fuck my shit?I already set the recommended values.
>>109303503they just work under linux. they are probably even better since you got a bit more overhead for gaming which the cache negates.
>>109303477never said the first one and the second is just blatantly obvious with how oleds start off dim and get even dimmer over time plus the fact that the pixels can just fucking die.
>>109303473it is. i know the current cope is that its marketed as an enterprise card so 5090 owners dont have to feel bad about having second best but the truth of the matter is that its the same class that the titans were.that card you said doesnt have display out btw.
>>109303545ackshually, i bought a 5090 because there was no 5080tihaving the best costs too much money and isnt something I'd bother doing
>>109303503autistic simulators benefit a lot from 3d vcache and vcache is the sole reason why ryzen is even competitive in gaymen performance, if not, intel simply makes higher IPC, lower latency cpus than non-3d ryzensif you're going to pay the ddr5 ram toll, you might as well add an extra $135 over the cost of the 9700x to get a 9800x3d
>>109303552ok but i was talking to an anon gomplaining about nvidia skimping on memory. you seem content with yourself and well adjusted, no fun in other words.
>>109303513>dimi mean if u need 1000nits full screen yes>pixels can dielcds too, if you mix in miniled now u have backlights that die and cause catastrophic failure worse than oleds
>>109303471what's that hitting my thighs? UwU
>>109303591The SBC Solarpowered Black remoteController
Have flash memory prices started coming down yet?I need an SDXC UHS-II card for my camera
>>109303565Ok, didn't know that. I might have a look at intels as well, unless they still change sockets as often as underwear.
>they bought the oled
>>109303633they do, actually. at least until we get lga1954 in early 2027 that is
>>109303626they never went up that much
>>109303641>edited
>>109303710probably edited as in how he sees it instead of how the camera sees it
>just ordered the parts of my first pc buildeverything should be here by Thursday, wish me luck
>>109302428
>>109303743gluck
>>109300548Gabe playing the single game that will never be on Steam.
>>109302311The Kingston NV3 is a mystery meat SSD. There's more revisions of it than there are PCIe lanes on your CPU. Even if you read through a positive review, it might be for a completely different NV3.
>>109303032AI translations constantly hallucinate shit.
>>109302748>$89,99 AIO versus $438,99 AIOdamm nigga no way
>have to spam refresh on multiple sites just for a chance to buy a year old gpu for msrpthis shit is whack
>>109304012stop being poor and buy a fully prebuilt 5090 buildit's the only way to redeem and escape the demoralization cycle lefteverything else is shit
>>109304063nah I'm just going to keep running my rx480 into the ground
>>109304012That was with crypto boom and ampere cardsnow most gpus are available for cheap, so what gpu are you trying to buy
>>109304066>staying poor optionbad ending my friend..
I'm glad I managed to get an RTX 4090 for under MSRP so I don't have to care about 5090 pricing.
Have 2x8GB sticks right now. Can I slap in additional 2x16GB sticks from the same manufacturer and specs and even article number (sans the capacity of course) for a total of 48GB without the system imploding every 5 minutes?
>>109304215Do your gods love you?
>>109304215ddr4 yeah on ddr5 you gonna get assraped most likely
>>109304215Sure, it'll work at ddr5-4400 perfectly fineAnything faster is a gamble
>>109304176feels bad to be stuck on the last generation of dp2.0 gpus desu, especially when nvidia's DSC is that broken
>>109304257no dp2.1no single display head so dsc works and less display jank bugs4000 series DOA slopNew always better new good new better new best
>>109304268This but unironically
>>109304225>>109304245They're DDR4-3200. I think the mobo only supports 2667MHz with all 4 slots in use and a bit higher if they're all in single channel mode though. [spoiler]Honestly never noticed any difference between that and DDR3-1333.[/spoiler]
>>109304291Cattle raised to be in perpetual FOMO.
Well /pcbg/? >>109304469
Is PG32UCDMR worth the premium over other 4k 240Hz OLEDs?
>>109304595in 4chan x put//pcbg//i;op:only;highlight;top:yes;boards:g
>>109304650at this point its a better bet to wait for the 360hz ones with rgb strip layout
Does anyone here use any type of smart watch? I like the Samsung Ultra watch but I have no idea how well it integrates with windows or linux.
>>109304721Do they have other use besides paying for groceries and monitoring your heart rate
>>109304738Your health is very important. Take care of yourself, anon.
>>109304748Most code monkey's smoke. In fact, I bet half of /pcbg/ smokes.
>>109304763ntaI don't smoke, I don't drink, I eat a balanced diet of 5 fruit and veg and have been exercising more
>>109300548They need to develop immortality tech faster so that this nigger can live until Im old
>>109304763>Most code monkey's smoke.The only smoker I remember at my workplaces was in customer support.
I still don't know whether or not Valve and Gabe are the best solution to pc gaymen. The problem is that every other company that tried to make a different platform absolutely sucks at it.
>>109304834valve is a lot better than the cd days.however there's no guarantee that steam won't be enshittified the nanosecond gaben dies.
I noticed my ram is at 2133mhz so I enabled AXMP profilie in bios as instructed will this explode my PC? Is it safe? Does it improve my machine significantly
>>109304899>explodeno>improve maybe
>>109304899>AXMPAnXplosiveMemoryProfile>will this explode my PC?Yes.
Are air coolers even worth buying these days since AIO are cheap? Maybe there is ONE air cooler that stands out?
>>109304711I'm in yuropistan so new stuff is always late and/or hideously expensive, see PG32UCDM3 sold in like 3 stores for €1300+
>>109305037I don't wanna throw out my cooler in three years.
>>109304699>4chanx
>>109305206
If Xi is so great then why can she solo all China's problem?
>>109305219oh nyo
>>109305219Rover can
>>109305037Cheap air coolers beating cheap AIOs is the current meta.
Is it worth grabbing a 5800x3D now? It's probably my last chance.I was waiting for AM6 to upgrade from my 5600, but you know how that waiting strategy went...
>>109305678it just relaunched and should be available for at least 2 yearsyou have plenty of time to buy one imo
>>109305678>5600XIf you are finding yourself CPU bound right now, sure.
>>109305037Never buying AIO, don't care about price, don't care about LEDs, and don't care about a couple degrees. I want a big hunk of metal on top of my CPU because it's cool. I don't want some generic, plastic, chinesium, unaesthetic AIO. AIO are unsightly and gay. I don't want glass cases either.
>>109305678Save up and go Nova Lake
>>109305745>just wait 9 months broyou cant be serious
>>1093057529 months working a McDonald's job you can get a 5090+32 core cpu build and still have money left over
>>109305752Nova Lake is worth it. If Intel can manage a proper 3D cache on their chips, Intel will become the gaymen cpu king again. AMD currently has no answer
>>109305741how lil bro felt with all that yapping vs how he actually sounded
>>109305850>3DIsn't Intel's answer a side tile? So, even worse L3 latency than AMD's stack?
>>109305945yes and yesbut intel also runs their L3 in its own clock domain unlike amd
>>109302920maaaaaan kinda wish i got a 14900k instead of this 250k, but oh well
>>109306015But i imagine i'd need a contact frame, delid (or at least lapped ihs) and a custom loop to actually make the most of a behemoth like the 14900k
Valve says the global memory shortage isn’t improving, warning that RAM and SSD prices are likely to keep rising.“There’s no light at the end of the tunnel, honestly. It’s still getting worse.”Valve says memory manufacturers are focusing on high-end chips for AI servers, leaving less supply for consumer hardware.“Things that were commodity items a year or two ago… now you have to negotiate really hard just to secure a few thousand. And there are so many more people in line in front of you.”Valve sees no improvement anytime soon.
>>109306074That's a good thing, though. Computers need to go back to being an elite thing; having all the cattle we have now has made the internet garbage, and if you disagree, you are part of said cattle
>>109306015you really don't want a 14900k unless your room is <20C all year round
>>109306081I miss the good ol days of ytmnd and shitting on eBaumsworld.
>>109306091ive been a little brainwashed by framechasers
>>109306041how much do you actually think you're gonna get out of it at 400 W compared to the default power limit?
>>109306094he's doing what he's doing since it's profitablethe actual user experience of a 13900k/14900k is pretty bad since even light loads (5-10% cpu usage) would push it to 80W+ tdp which is equal to the amount of power a 7800x3d uses when compiling shaders at 100% usage
>>109306094Unfuck yourself, a nicely tuned 250K with a mediocre DDR5 chip (tighter timings, maybe some mem speed OC) is good enough vs. a 14900K in gaming.Very few people can say a tuned 250K is what's holding them back in gaming.
>>109306117>the actual user experience of a 13900k/14900k is pretty badIt's fine to me.Unless you just must run a tiny ass cooler IDK why wattage is a problem
>>109306139i am running cl40 8000, 32 d2d 32 ngu and 41 ring
>>109306117>>109306140I am running a thermalright phantom spirit, i doubt i could tame a 14900k with that. I think if i were to do custom loops again i'd go for raptor lake but i just don't have it in me anymore. I really like the reliable stability of air cooling. Really drooling at those high 1% lows the monolithic intel CPUs can do though
>>109306103i wouldn't know honestly, close to 6ghz on the p cores with a good water cooling loop and a delid i imagine
yeah let me pay 25% more for this refurbished gpu instead of the brand new listing right next to it you dumb cocksucker
>>109306201should be able to handle it at 5.3ghz p-core/4ghz e-core with a 250W power limit and 307A iccmax
>>109306216ok so that gets you ~44-45k in cinebench R23a stock 14900K after the microcode patches gets ~38k in R23an undervolted 14900K at 250 W will land somewhere in between those twois that worth it for you? obviously, it's gonna make zero difference in anything that doesn't slam all cores>>109306265you can do a lot more than 5.3P/4.0E at 250 W
Users verified AMD Ryzen 5 5500X3D processors from China priced at 155$. First benchmarks fully confirmed the authenticity of the chips. The received samples match factory specs.The device features a 96 MB L3 cache. In games the processor runs 15% faster than the standard Ryzen 5 5600X model. The Ryzen 7 5800X3D version costs 125% more with minimal gap.Gamers call the chip an excellent way to extend the life of the old AM4 platform. Authentic components from China allow users to wait for the AM6 socket release without extra costs.
>>109306302Thank you, ChatGPT?
>>109300484>Is 4k worth it?yes>Is OLED worth it?yes>Is 240Hz refresh rate worth it?yes>Currently on an old ass 24" 1080p 60Hz LCD LMAO
I lost 20 bugs due to exchange rate shenanigans on aliexpress when I cancelled my 5500x3d order so I could get one from a different listing for $10 cheaperand my paypal discount never went through
last time i had a custom loop i was on x79 with a 3930k, shit was doing 5.3ghz in benchmarks
>>109306561i had one too in an alienware prebuilt and it was constantly overheating at 4.3ghz because of its tiny 120mm aio and weak mobo vrms that can't sustain >140W of load
>>109306578yea needed some beefy cooling for higher frequencies, ran it at 4.6 or so daily. Upgraded from an FX8350, made a massive difference in BF4 at the time
>>109306500Play stupid games…
>>109306081If you don't realize how little desktops have to do with the internet landscape today you are the cattle.-sent from my iphone
>>109306081overpriced hardware won't suddenly make all the ddr4, ddr3 and older hardware that's passed onto 3rd world countries disappear
Is AMDip real?
>>109303659>
>>109306908no
I want to buy a backup monitor. What's a decent 1080p IPS budget option?
>>109305678> 5800x3DWait fo the price to drop a little once the demand dwindles.
>>109305037No, air coolers take too much space above the socket, obstruct access to DIMMs and fan headers. A maintenance nightmare.
Looking to upgrade, decided I wont do a full PC upgrade, just CPU cooler and case with a new GPU.Current setup is 5800X downclocked, 3060TI 8gb, 64GB DDR4, bunch of storage and a FSP 750W 80+ Gold Hydro G Pro PSU.I'm going to get a 5070TI.I'm also going to get a Be Quiet Dark Rock pro 5 cooler one of the following cases:Dark Base 701, 901 PRO or Shadow Base 800.(Need these so I can increase CPU clocks back to normal without overheating so it doesn't cripple the 5070TI).What I need:- Please let me know what the hell pic related means. I put in my stuff into pc part picker, I got 2x M2 slots used and 1 PCIE for the GPU. Am I not getting full PCIE now or is it only for the second slot? B550 Tomhawk MSI mobo- I'm going from 478W estimated power draw to 578W, do I need a new PSU? If so are the 850W ones from bequiet good?- Which variant of the 5070TI do I get if I prefer silence over raw performance? (Got some curve editor thing going on with the 3060 to keep it cooler too.)- What thermal paste? Do I need a special screw driver not to over-tighten?It's going to be my first time properly building something for myself aside from replacing a GPU or some fans. By build I mean moving stuff from one case to the next and replacing a CPU cooler with paste.Post is a bit long. sryThanks.
>>109305037Custom loop > air cooler > AIO
>>109307575>Dark Base 701, 901 PRO or Shadow Base 800.>(Need these so I can increase CPU clocks back to normal without overheating so it doesn't cripple the 5070TI).Then why not buy a case that's actually performance focused? Some newer Corsair ones or the Torrent from Fractal are probably way better in regards to temperatures than this.Just get a decent 1000W PSU, that way you can still upgrade later without any issues.I also get the feeling you're German, no other country has that much of a bequiet fetish.t. German
>>109299384Going to build a gaming computer today. Im old and know nothing. Just want somthing that plays the biggest Civ 6 maps with 60 computer characters with 1 second turn loads. I dont need top of the line graphics so I think the card may be over kill. Any thoughts?
>>109307595I'm from Hungary. Not a be quiet fetish, but I tried several brands for fans and they are the ones I was 100% satisfied with.They are as good as the noctua ones without the weird dog-whistle high pitch noise.I genuinely despise the overwhelming amount of choice there is in tech and how most of them are utter trash so unless you have infinite money you gotta go with something you can trust.>Some newer Corsair ones or the Torrent from Fractal If you name some I'm more than willing to look into them, but the beQuiet ones come with 3 of the higher end fans that I might just get too.Both have mesh fronts so should be better than what I got now. (Deepcool CH510)Also the Dark Base Pro 901 has space for an internal blue ray drive for the bottom. Already got an external drive, just considering it as a nice to have.>1000WDo I truly need it? (750W for 600W estimated power draw too small?) beQuiet ones has a 1000W one, but they have poor reputation based on some reviews, it's also another 200€ or so on top.
>>109307661>beQuiet ones has a 1000W one, but they have poor reputation based on some reviews
>>109307598Another Anon told me to go with this. Processor (CPU): AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D (Unchanged – the absolute best chip on the market for AI turn calculations)Memory (RAM): 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR5 (Down from 128GB. This keeps your memory controller running at max speed rather than slowing down to stabilize 4 sticks)Graphics Card (GPU): NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti (Down from 5080. Saves massive budget with zero impact on simulation logic)Storage (SSD): 2TB Premium Gen4 NVMe M.2 SSD (Down from 4TB. Holds your OS and key games at identical speeds; easy to slide a secondary budget SSD in later if you need bulk room)Motherboard: X870 or high-end B650E AM5 MotherboardCPU Cooler: Premium Dual-Tower Air Cooler or 360mm AIO Liquid CoolerPower Supply (PSU): 850W or 1000W 80+ Gold ATX 3.0 CertifiedCase: High-airflow ATX Mid-Tower case with pre-installed fans
>>109307661>HungaryI can see bequiet being relatively well available there and not overpriced so I see you point.Strange thing about the fans, I like them better than Noctua as well but mostly because the low hum of the Noctua fans doesn't get filtered by my silent focused case. If you buy the regular Fractal Torrent you get 2-3 fans which work very well on their own.1000W or higher is definitely more future proof and also more efficient, 750W might be cutting it close so I'd just get a larger one.How's the used market where you live? I recently bought a 1200W Straight Power 11 for 120€.
>>109307724>Memory (RAM): 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR5
Am I retarded for going with FSP power supplies As they conformal coat them?I can get whatever PSU I want but always like FSP ones as it's pretty humid out here.Would people still trust a Seasonic more?
>>109307734What should I use?
>>109307318Asus ROG Strix XG256Q ($139) if you're in the US and you want the display to have a height-adjustable stand.https://pcpartpicker.com/product/D2vdnQ/asus-rog-strix-xg256q-245-1920-x-1080-180-hz-monitor-90lm07w0-b01ab0There's plenty of more affordable options if you don't care about the stand, maybe the MSI MAG 244F ($99).
>>109307761Get the FSP if it makes more sense to the climate in your region.
>>109307721>be quiet! Pure Power 13 M Okay that one seems not to have any "it explodes" reviews.If it's needed for the 5070TI to be safe, I'll get one I guess. Some reviews say the cables are short though.>>109307728>doesn't get filtered by my silent focused caseWhich one is this silence focused case?The Fractal one is about as expensive as the mid priced beQuiet one, has the same open/mesh stuff just less filters, less massive, less options and poor fans based on reviews.Just from the price/comparison alone it is dismissed in my mind.Also any recommendations for 5070TI variant? Any idea what that warning for the PCIE lane means exactly? Is it only for the bottom slot?
>>109307318Whatever your local Facebook Marketplace dudes are selling for a crisp twenty.
>>109307842>Also any recommendations for 5070TI variant?ASUS Prime is good enough for most people, but you need to undervolt it if you want to minimize the fan noise (and OC it if you want to retain stock performance).PNY ARGB EPIC-X RGB OC if it's priced simlarly to the Prime.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-ventus-3x-pz/36.html
The EU just killed DIY PCB designWith the new tax on imports (3€ per import of each category)I now would have to pay 3€ for every PCB component that I have to solder at homeI can't buy PCB components in Germany because THEY ARE NOT EVEN MANUFACTURED HERE ANYWHERE ITS JUST CHINA AND AMERICA So instead of 20 bucks for one prototype PCB with 20 different componentsIt's now 80€Fuck you Ursula
>>109307870The ASUS Prime was the one I had my eyes on because online people say the MSI ones got coil whine.Even though my current 3060TI is also an MSI Ventus 3X variant and it was fine.Out of the 3 the MSI is a tiny bit more expensive, but all 3 are within margin of error in terms of price. I'll read up on reviews for the 3 you listed.Thanks.
>>109307922
>>109307922How the fuck is every PCB component a different category?
>>109307992I think he is talking about buying components from aliexpress, which individual parts are like $3 for a bag of 100 resistors or so.If you bought a PCB from a chinese company like JLCPCB, the whole assembled PCB should be taxed as one parcel, so it wouldn't actually affect the whole PCB.But I imagine, buying the parts from JLCPCB in bulk is probably more expensive than buying a plastic bag of possible defects from on aliexpress.I don't live in the EU, and I have not read the law, but there are stores on aliexpress where everything you buy is packed into one cardboard box, I wonder if that's affected.
>>1093075755800x3d, you know the answer
>>109307842>Which one is this silence focused case?I use an old Define R5 with an undervolted 3080Ti, a slightly overclocked 9900K and 3 1000RPM bequiet fans. It gets somewhat hot but doesn't throttle because of the thermals, worst case scenario is x265 encoding but that might be because of my DR Pro 4 cooler which is kinda shit.>>109307842>poor fans based on reviewsWhich one are you talking about? The Torrent is 5 years old but their other cases are at the top regarding thermals.https://gamersnexus.net/cases/best-pc-cases-2025-75-200-airflow-thermals-cable-management-budget#best-overall-caseThe Meshify 3 is 120€ in Germany.
>>109307922>>109308080it's per category, if you're lucky and the components are all named "pc parts" or some shit you pay 3€ for the whole package.still annoying as fuck, I buy most of my books from the US because you mostly get the dogshit UK ones here in Germany and ebay wants 3,42€ now for every order.
>>109308080You can buy as many items of the same category without having to pay more in tariffs. The EU notes as much themselves.>if you buy 5 T-shirts, a €3 customs duty will be applied (as all T-shirts fall under the same tariff classification)>if you buy 3 T-shirts and a watch, a €6 customs duty will be applied (as the T-shirts and the watch fall under two different tariff classifications)AFAIK, the categories they use are the six-digit HS codes. For example:>853340: Electrical variable resistors, incl. rheostats and potentiometers (excl. wirewound variable resistors and heating resistors)>854231: Electronic integrated circuits as processors and controllers, whether or not combined with memories, converters, logic circuits, amplifiers, clock and timing circuits, or other circuits
>about to order 4k meme monitor>amazon checkout fucking crashes every time
>>109299384budget is $1672what can i get from this?
>>1093083885080 and two slop games
>>109308362I remember ordering for years even expensive parts from amazon and at some point I wanted a monitor but couldnt order it for some reason. I had to switch the payment method to a credit card to make it work in the end
>>109308582For me the page just literally fucking crashed, as in it gave a generic browser "page not found" error on checkout, even after clearing cookies, switching orders etc. Had to order it from my phone. Weird, I've never had any issues with ordering on Amazon before.
>>109308388If you live near a Microcenter, their CPU / motherboard / memory bundle could help you add a 9070 XT to the build.Newegg generally offers the next best CPU or motherboard bundles..It's all about financial damage limitation.If you can carry over some older SSDs and HDDs, do that as well.
>>109301830ram prices are literally dropping every single day. what are you doomposting for, faggot?>>109301885kys doomnigger
>>109301919this happens all the time newfag. you are niggercattle and ill be laughing at you complaining that you overpaid for ram in a couple months.
>>109307575yes
>>109307586Had custom loop for many years. Maintenance sucked.Using AIO now. Happy life in easy mode.
>>109309213>in a couple monthsGet a trip so that we can point out how wrong you were in two months.
>>109309192>>109309213the prices rise every single day tho
>>109309312Funny people say this because AIOs suffer the same consequences. The difference is that you can't do shit about it.
I'm in the market for a new monitor and I've come to the conclusion that I really don't care about the specs all too much as I'm sure it'll be better than what I'm currently using. I unironically want a (24/27 inch) monitor with good/serviceable built-in speakers; any suggestions? I really wanna get my setup to as few pieces as possible.I'm still using a Dell u2412m that I got over a decade ago that has burn-in; I pretty much can't tell the difference of anything more than 30fps, I'm not too picky on colours or viewing angles given what I've been using all these years. I'm thinking mini-LED or IPS? I don't want to deal with OLED burn-in. Any suggestions?
>>109299384Im getting the VGA (white) light on my motherboard which google says means my graphics card is the problem. But my graphics card will also emit a red light if its not getting power or not plugged in properly and the light is off. So the motherboard says the graphics card is the problem but the graphics card is telling me its getting power. What else could it be? Power unit? Cable?
>>109309875does the gpu work in another computer?
>>109309880It worked on this machine a month ago but I havent used it since I was away from home. Don't have easy access to another bench
okay i got logitech mx mechanical wireless keyboard. some mchose wireless mouse i forgor which one.now i am heavily debating snagging an ultra wide monitor at walmart but i think the lowest they have is like 3180 x 2160 at 34" is that a meme? i heard anything less than 4k on 34" is a meme. maybe ill wait for monitor tech to evolve so i can get a 4k 34" 180hz monitor for cheap. also want wireless headphones but i have sennheiser hd6xx headphones already i considered airpods max 2 but probably a meme. i could also just use my macbook speakers.wireless is probably a meme but im keeping all of my wired peripherals in case this stuff is a meme and/or dies on me. maybe im just a dumb retarded consumer but yeah.
>>109310076also switching from 2 monitors back to 1 which is why im considering an ultrawide. but all the ones i saw at walmart were curved which is beyond nauseating. i have no idea why curved monitors exist.
>>109309919>>109309880I should mention the card itself is still under warranty. Should I just get a new card?
>bragged about my asrock b450 itx a few days ago>it fucking craps out on me after upgrading my RAM>every single diagnostic check couldn't fix it, like clearing the CMOS battery, re-seating every thing>backup msi motherboard worksI ordered the asrock b550 itx as a replacement. I don't have high confidence for asrock anymore but every other am4 itx motherboard is at least $150 extra
>>109310116gigabyte b550i aorus pro is like $170
Hopefully you faggots install latest HWmonitor and see the hotspot temps on 50 series
>>109310220my gpu already shows hot spot temp tho
I am currently rocking a 14900k with 32gb of DDR4. I managed to buy 32gb of DDR5 for really cheap from my friend (basically what he paid for it a year ago). Should I go AMD or just grab a new Z790 DDR5 motherboard and keep my 14900i? Or maybe just flip the DDR5? I mainly game.
>>109310220Yeah, it was a nothingburger.OC'd at 3.2GHz my 5080's hotspot hits 70 with 50% fan speed, with the memory junction showing 67.
>>109309626>it was real in my head
>>109310116The only DOA motherboard I have ever received was an asscock.
Samsung won the best tv of the year, even from cucks that don't play games and just watch contentIt's already the best gaymen tvDisplayguy just dropped his review of it, it's the most impactful hdr tv and brightestS95h is the best gamen display simple asSamsung won
>>109310220I don't even know what to do with that
>>109310198gigabyte is $269 in canada while asrock is $114
>>109310531Dont know too. My old GTX 1080 hotspots is 105C all the time when playing games but its still survive to this day. My 5070ti hits 90C. ill think it will be fine
>>109310643Yeah, it's really pretty surprising just how cool the 50 series runs. Besides the cable on a 5090, obviously.
Messing around with Linux on an external drive. With the way everyone talks about needing ayymd I'm kinda surprised at how well gaming is working with my 5080 on it.Ran crimson desert, mh wilds, clair obscur, re9, elden ring, an rpg porn game. Got my art programs running through lutris too. Pretty cool stuff.Anyways *goes back to windows*
>>109310700>>109310700>>109310700>>109310700
>>109310513QD OLED has been the best from the moment it was released
>>109306908the amdip is dipping from like 600fps locked down to 350fpsmost people dont see the dip because they are playing low fpsthis is joofooses whole schtckbtw game updates has introduced the same amdip into the game in general that effected even his intel buildso hes 50/50 schizophrenicthe real truth is some games x3d is better and in some titles intel is still better, and this is tunednon tuned x3d is just betteroverall? i bet barely matters if you have the best of each to begin withif you wanna find out the truth you have to build two systems and test it yourself>>109305678you could have had a free intel cpu ages ago that is fastthat cpu is old and slowonly retards buy am4 slop now
>>109310220luckily it was around 12c
>>109310399What a great crop.
>>109309742Benq Mobiuz have good speakers for a monitor. I personally have a Benq Mobiuz EX2710U. Its 27 inch, flicker free and has an integrated light tuning sensor and an ok microphone and a integrated USB hub.
>>109312352I'll give it a look, thank you!
