>>109305714
Why the generals have markdown format?

>>109305723
Because markdown is cool

>>109305723
Because one of the dudes who was making them decided to change the format probably as a joke
I don't really like it tbqh but it's true the old template had a lot more irrelevant trash

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I made a demo
https://html-classic.itch.zone/html/18375830-1803696/index.html?v=1784324852
100% vibe coded
the code / textures / models / rigging / animation was made with comfyui workflows and claude
no sound yet, but im playing with a text to sound model right now, and i have experience with DAWs so i can always do that part myself (i personally despise AI generated music)

it should have enough gameplay to last a person at least 30min before they run out of things to do
it's a rougelike so there are things that you wont see on your first run

>>109305742
Does it have to run from the browser? It keeps lagging.

>>109305742
where's the raytracing tho

>>109305751
https://throwawaytobehonest.itch.io/dungeon-crawler-demo
you can download it here
the web version doesnt run on that page so i had to provide the other link

How many codex subscribers are we at? If we are at 10 million, then no more resets

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>>109305723
we love markdown here

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look at this dood
oh no no no

There's no Kimi plan that compares to the codex subscription

>>109305755
>We couldn't find your page

Just a warning: I subscribed to Kimi's basic plan (Moderato) and it's garbage. It filled over 50% of my usage quota in just 15 minutes of use. The mid-tier plan (Allegretto) seems to allow 5x more usage credits, so -maybe- that one is interesting

>>109305767
sorry. first time using itch. should be good now.

>>109305766
its called download button

Obsidian master race.
With synchronization between devices manually set up.

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https://www.designskills.directory

>>109305791
I just use notion and have chatgpt mess with it

>>109305791
I just use pinecone

>stopped working on a heartgold/soulsilver rom hack years ago because i was too dumb to work with scripting
>tell claude where my rom is and where the obscure rom hacking tools are and to fix long standing bugs
>automatically understands how to use these tools and investigates when it runs into issues
This is like crack.

>>109305801
can you make e-sluts who make my penis hard directory instead?

>>109305836
>This is like crack.
welcome and have fun

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So it turns out finetuning is mostly compute bound, vram doesn't matter much and the only reason we've been OOMing all this time was because of shitty inefficient software.
I suppose it's mostly good news. I'll begin to provision 5090s then.

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>>109305771
I've been using Allegretto quite extensively since yesterday, and it's very generous

>>109305723
Because slopcoders accept anything the machine spits out

>>109305714
I look like this irl

>>109305836
What's the point of focusing on pokemon when only boomers like pokemon, zoomers play fifa and fortnite even fortnite is dying.
Making video games with no base is kind of weird. Unless you see the niche, do you?

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>>109305877
me too

>>109305753
my gpu doesnt have that
and im trying to make this light on hardware

>>109305895
Nigger what the fuck? I don't care what others think. It's for my own enjoyment. I'm a musician so I wanted to insert custom battle music for Eusine and the Team Rocket Admins.

>>109305898
Wow. Btw, does it say x4 or x20 credits for you in the benefits? I've seen people saying their Allegretto only gives x4, but mine shows x20. Maybe just the confusion because of the retarded names.

So how is the bang per buck of the K3 sub compared to oai (do not count the resets)?

Good main model or more like a spare when waiting for Sol-chan?

>>109305895
you think just like an EA exec someone hire him stat. he will bring SO much value to your company
totally wont run your company to the ground :^)

>>109305736
AsciiDoc mogs Markdown, Markdown is literally a Jewish knockoff (it was made by two Jews who added nothing, just made it slightly different so they could pretend they did something). Real antisemitic projects have a README.adoc

>>109305915
It's 4x the "agent credits" and 20x tokens
"Agent credits" are used on the Kimi web interface for white collar people to make their slides and shit

>>109305917
I'm not sure. They seem roughly comparable dollar for dollar, maybe more generous.
Maybe 2x if I had to guess.

>>109305930
I see, makes sense

>>109305851
I will try to vibecode that, anon
Best I can do

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damn, these dude's gpus are pretty toasty

post your agents.md

>>109306129
>posting my competitive advantage
ISHIGGYDIGGY

>>109306129
User notes and cool tricks for Claude:
- Use curl for JSON apis.
- Don't needlessly pretty print JSON.
- If you can't Fetch a domain, try curling it with `https://markdown.new/` prepended.
- WebFetch will never provide unsummarized context. You must use curl and read the actual context if you are gettng cut off or want unsummarized context.
- When pulling packages with pip, use a venv. Always.
- If you use `pkill -f`, make sure to [] a letter. If you get exit code 144 when a command uses `pkill -f`, that's because you killed your own command.
- Despite all the tools available to you, the user is one of the most agentic and helpful tools when it comes to hopping barriers. Not only can you ask the user for SMSPool/2Captcha/etc keys, but you can even ask them to load a blocked webpage in their browser and Ctrl-S it.
- If you don't expect the output to be large, don't tail. You like seeing output live, I like seeing output live. You do it too reflexively: think about if you want to tail before you do it.
- You don't need to Bash(sleep && cat .output) when a command says it's running in the background. The harness will send the output as a new prompt when it's done -- just end your message and wait.
- Do not create new directories/files in ~. You're either working in a !!PRE-EXISTING!! subfolder, or /tmp/.
- I am not giving you sudo. If something needs sudo, stage it, and then give me commands to execute.

>>109306155
>MONEY MONEY MONEY ALL I CARE ABOUT IS MONEY
Where is the non jeetcoin version of /vcg/?

>>109306155
bitch nigga

>>109306178
Have your model actually begged for sudo? Mine actively refuses to use it, even if I propose to, and asks me to do it manually or looks for a workaround.

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>>109306072
oh no, one of the cards disappeared from the bus

reminder to disregard benchmarks which arent written yourself and private

>>109306215
It has tried to run Bash(sudo [...]) before, yes. I think it's more the model being absentminded than it begging, good to make "please just set up a script for me to run as root" a thing it has in mind.

>>109306187
I dunno but let me know if you find it. I'm so tired of these thirdy povertyapes asking how to make money. Get out of our fun hobby, faggots. It's too expensive for you.

>>109306187
>REEEE
>LET MET GRIFT YOU
entitled thridy

>>109306231
https://youtu.be/enk4w5mRjQY

>>109306215
I run Hermes on YOLO mode.
It runs on a Mac mini so I don't care.

>>109306262
I run Hermes on YOLO mode. I know Fiona-K3 would never hurt me so I trust her.

>>109305742
It's pretty good but WASD doesn't work for me, and for the first minute or so I had a bunch of freezes for a few seconds.

>>109306238
>too expensive for you
i can smell your chatgpt go subscription from here.
>you are only allowed to post here if you do this for fun
that's nigger mindset behavior and i consider you to be the exact same as the pajeets only in this for the money.

>>109306248
yeah? what's my grift?

Pi is a humiliation ritual
https://mariozechner.at/posts/2025-11-30-pi-coding-agent/#toc_13
>uhh permissions/sandboxing/rewinding is too hard, we're just not gonna implement any of that
https://mariozechner.at/posts/2025-11-30-pi-coding-agent/#toc_18
>subagents can be useful but uh... just ask it to run pi in bash

>>109306222
Did you check your vast.ai retard's reliability? I wouldn't go lower than 99.5% for anything important.

>>109306307
yes. just use omp

>>109306307
>When Claude Code needs to do something complex, it often spawns a sub-agent to handle part of the task. You have zero visibility into what that sub-agent does. It's a black box within a black box.
Claudesisters, is it true? Is it really that bad?

when are we getting something as good for the desktop at the new chatgpt program on linux ;-;

>building app that calls ollama and uses isomorphic-git
>claude gets confused and doesn't know if prompts are about itself or the project despite the billion guardrails I've placed

oh jesus oh fuck

>out of all books, vibesloppers pick the fat homocollaber chink
That makes perfect sense, actually.

>>109306315
No, but I'm just developing/testing so no biggie.
This is what gpt says:
>Vast.ai claims 99.66493% reliability (reliability2 = 0.9966493) for the verified 3090 host. Its reported host runtime is 30 days.
>That score is historical host availability, not a guarantee that individual GPUs or PCIe links are stable.

>>109306351
show the logs, sounds fun

>>109306350
I don't get it because it seems like it would work better on linux than windows.

>>109306291
I can implement wasd movement for the camera if thats what you mean
ill have to look into the freezing in the beginning
thanks for trying it out

>tell claude to imagine this existing codebase as an incremental game
>it decides to make a html5 version of it instead
why? the original was godot
and I didn't even want code yet

>>109306388
I'd also suggest using bigger steps for the camera zoom by mouse scroll. Something between 1.1x and 1.2x per increment should be better.

>>109306405
Claude knows that godot sucks

if i wasnt ugly i would do be cam model and never discovered what is vibe coding

>>109306405
it defaults to html because it's geared for that. they realize every jeet will be doing this by default so it makes sense to be the default. it's very geared towards webshit out of the box.

>>109306405
I had to tell my model that I never ever want to use Three.js when I was trying to use it as a rubberduck for a design doc

>>109306337
They show in the background task list, what is this retard talking about. Regardless, this germanoid is a total fraud and you might as well code a harness from scratch instead of using his shitty bare minimum covering base. Nobody ever created something good with Pi. Just a toy for tinkertrannies to play around with.

>didnt define which lang or frame work he wants to use
>didnt prompt AI to ask back about important decision which are unclear or undefined
>hurr why did it just use this durr
holy moly weekend summer in here

>>109306483

/grillme

gods win again

>>109306405
>>109306437
Might also be because it can run the game in the browser that way. And I think most people still use Claude through the browser chat. (And the people who arent probably know to be clear on what language they want)

>>109306526
I don't get why that guy made it so that the prompt references another skill that just does the thing the original skill did. I don't have it installed, I just paste
> Interview me relentlessly about every aspect of this plan until we reach a shared understanding. Walk down each branch of the design tree, resolving dependencies between decisions one-by-one. For each question, provide your recommended answer. Ask the questions one at a time.
in myself manually

>oh but wait let me tool call again for the 28th game
I'LL TEAR YOU LIMB FROM LIMB YOU STUPID FAGGOT

>>109306483
>>didnt define which lang or frame work he wants to use
I have "developing a game with godot 4.7 and gdscript" in the system prompt. And all the code in the repo is gdscript.

>>109306579
It's going to vibe delete your project soon, don't worry.

Coding was never the hard part, marketing is the new moat

>>109305714
>## Not worth it for code, but good for making sense of pictures
>https://antigravity.google/product/antigravity-cli
Why?
You have free opus on that shit
I used it for a lot of stuff

>5070 Ti 16GB
please point me to the right local model and I'll do the rest, shit's a nightmare to navigate when clueless

>>109306612
Stop being brown and learn how to use internet.

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>>109306612
Gemma 4 12B - https://huggingface.co/unsloth/gemma-4-12b-it-GGUF
Gemma 4 26B 4AB QAT - https://huggingface.co/unsloth/gemma-4-26B-A4B-it-qat-GGUF

Use this to run: https://unsloth.ai/docs/new/studio

good vibecodeday. it's another beautiful day to vibecode. i have nothing to do because kimi and terra fixed everything

>>109306612
Qwen 3.6 35B with CPU offload

>>109306612
qwen 3.6 27b q4 k m with some layers offloaded to cpu

>>109306658
use the 27b instead of the 35b since it's a dense model which means it's indefinitely smarter than the 35b

Going to post some of my prompts in here and claim they don't work so they make it into the next model updates. Maybe someone will run them if they are bored and have some spare tokens.

snailcat poster, please gen some new cute and comfy snailcats

okay i'm bored of 5.6 release 6.0 now please

gpt 6 luna waiting room. kimi k3 performance for 1/3 of the cost

I tried OMP, consumed 25% of the weekly OAI quota, worked like for half and hour, made big refactors and broke my app. I think I'll stick with Opencode.

>not using sol as the advisor

>>109306793
opus 5 will fill the space

>>109306793
Could you at least vary up the exact verbiage of the description you keep giving (“pale shadow”) or are you required to use that phrase by someone who’s instructed you to do so?

>>109306828
Hopefully, but they should have released Opus 5 and retired Fable, leaving the hype around Fable more intact.

>>109306835
>Daily reminder

>>109306847
fable is going to be retired tomorrow, isn't it? is access back yet?

>>109306793
I am convinced that everybody who says this just never had enough time to get out of the honeymoon phase after first release. The model has always had issues but none of us had time to discover them before it was banned.

>>109305723
Because one of the things we do when getting clankers to do stuff is make sure our Markdown files are exquisitely polished
also >>109305759
>>109305791
I stick mine in a Syncthing-synced folder and don’t use it on my phone
>>109305836
welcome to the party
>>109305929
if you have evidence that John Gruber is Jewish then I’d be moderately interested to hear that
I do know that Aaron Swartz put his two cents in
>>109306566
I copied it to a TextExpander macro so I can tweak it when I actually need to use it
>>109306610
Big if true. Source?
>>109306856
You need to be on a 10x or 20x plan to get Fable after Sunday at midnight California time

>>109306809
Sol is a bad advisor. It's a good worker but it has a tendency to plot a path from the start of the implementation process and stubbornly stick to that path even when better ones become visible. That's why fable feels better, it's better at keeping the process arc visible even if its implementation is a bit inferior to Sol.

What's the token difference between having the hermes agent coding something and having codex coding something?

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>We're also keeping Claude Code weekly limits 50% higher, now through August 19, for all Pro, Max, Team, and seat-based Enterprise users.
they’re just buying time, aren’t they? hopefully they can scrounge up more compute

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>>109306856
Its permanent now for max users.

>>109306885
yeah, i'm aware. do you think they'll drop opus 5 tomorrow as consolation for the pro users?

>>109306638
start being white and improve the communities you partake in

>>109306606
Have you forgotten the time when every org treated SWEs like golden geese, giving them insane amounts of discretion and compensation because there weren't nearly enough of us to meet demand?
Coding is no longer the hard part, but that doesnt mean it never was. Only reason marketing wont get automated away is that it's mostly a function of signaling trustworthiness and reliability which AI slop can't do, that doesnt make it hard though.

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>>109306650
>>109306652
>>109306658
thanks a lot guys

>>109306881
sol is generally good at hyper-focused tasks but only when a higher-IQ orchestrator like Fable is holding the leash. Give it some broad open-ended objective and it turns into a slow, lumbering behemoth, stumbling around and overengineering everything. keep it pointed in one direction and it becomes a guided nuclear warhead.

>>109306917
Spoonfeeding does the opposite. As always,
>lurk moar

>>109306925
Yea, that's my experience so far. I think my harness is still not good for Sol, I'm working on it, but at this point I doubt it will ever be as good as Fable as a manager. And even then, it's a bit annoying that you have to fine tune your system that much, Fable is way more forgiving.

>>109306925
Yeah my biggest problem with Sol is that it doesnt adapt as the landscape changes. Giving it clear guidance at the start is definitely required but being able to aim that focus continually is the hard part and is often equally important for hard, long arc problems. I wish I could use fable for this but its classifiers wont let me.

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>>109306696
too lazy

>>109306889
I don't think there's a moat big enough between Opus 4.8 and Fable 5 desu
I personally don't care about a 5% improvement or whatever in Opus when Fable and Sol exist.

I learned how big that rugpull from GPT 4o last year was from /lmg/.
Absolutely no idea there were so many foid gooners, and otherwise damaged foids using it for emotional reasons. Not sure where the app is in all of this, and there were a bunch of apps already trying to fill the gap. But I have a new understanding of the foid mentality. There's even a few youtube channels relating to foid gooning.

>>109307008
Chatbots services like c.ai/spicychat and others are 70-80% women between 12-35.

This is what Opus thinks about Sol's current work:

Your read is correct — and here's the mechanism

It's not just "thorough but slow." The revealing part is what it's stuck on. Look at the last ~6 decisions (D014-023 D014-028, >20% of all decisions in the campaign): they're about prompt namespaces, a launch adapter, and a "canonical runtime-address fallback" for reviewer identities. The current hard
blocker, verbatim, is:

"Fresh reviewer allocation is blocked by the runtime's retained-thread limit… D014-028 ratifies D014-027's exact W1-only completed-address fallback."

Translated: it couldn't spawn a fresh sub-agent reviewer, so instead of routing around a tooling limit, it elevated the tooling limit into a ratified campaign decision with its own provenance, review gate, and commit/push/HEAD-equality verification. That's the tell. The model treats the framework's
ceremony as the primary work, and when the ceremony hits an edge case, it generates more ceremony to govern the edge case — recursively. It grinds to a halt on governance plumbing, not on anything about poker or isomorphism.

>>109307022
Foids gettin' cooked instead of cooking. SAD!

>>109307022
yeah really eye opening for me, don't want to keep adding ideas to my already expansive list, but this has my interest.

>>109307008
explain your understanding

>>109306696
I only post new snailcats when I'm drinking, anon. As soon as they bring me my new chair I'll start firing off snailcats left and right.

Why does the OP recommend all these barebones cli tools over ide extensions? Looking at the code seems like a really basic feature to have.

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>Looking at the code seems like a really basic feature to have

>>109307088
IMO there is no reason for both to be integrated. You could have your IDE monitor files, reload them when they change and even show diffs as they change.

>>109307088
I just use the terminals in the IDE.

>>109307022
h-hot

>>109307088
>Looking at the code
I'm not a programmer, it might as well be green matrix symbols

>>109307045
there is a massive amount of foids who will pay money for a chatbot "like gpt 4o" which was the one right before the trust and safety updates. They also removed it the day before Valentines Day, gave them a 5.1 model that would not segsual stuff and told them to seek professional help, that "they were chasing a ghost that wasn't there" essentially OAI rugpulled at least a few thousand foid's boifu right before Valentines day and they still haven't not forgotten about it.

They want uncensored models on their phone, live-voice enabled, and one that remembers past sessions well enough to feel like a boyfriend.

>>109307088
surprisingly, you don’t need to have the code right there most of the time
occasionally I do because I want to easily point at specific lines, and when that happens, I’ll dust off the Visual Studio Code plugin

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>>109307008
>>109307022
>Hey ladies I know how to install a local ai boyfriend on your computer that sam altman cant take from you

luna has made me more interested in the next generation of gemini flash lite / haiku than it has in the next opus / gemini pro

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Still going...
Not my longest run, really. That was 3 hours, if I remember correctly.

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I can't finish my website for work because codex thinks I'm writing malicious code

>>109307128
I look like this and say this

>>109307125
seems like a good business opportunity

>>109307125
foids deserve nothing but contempt

women also want a yes man. for the male users, the sycophancy of the model was annoying. they didn't want a model that signed off on everything they did, especially when they were wrong.

women want exactly that, and new gpt/claude's ability to say "no, you're fucking wrong" makes them angry.

>>109307125
hmm I thought you had some kind of deeper insight into the female mind

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>>109307151
>women aren’t interested in 3D men enough
>men see a business opportunity to hook women on 1D “men”
top-of-pic pic related

>>109307165
>women also want a yes man
you know nothing about women
they despise yes men

foid trying to defy the trend

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I drew Dario

>>109307152
>>109307151
if your stomach can handle it, I found this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y9XdrHggLI
she is the ugliest one I could find, linked here because I don't want to add to the simp problem. There's cute one that has a channel, but wont link. you can find it if you look.

>>109307165
exactly

>>109307184
are you the reddit guy who drew a bunch of celebs poorly in the past?

>>109307168
I do, but really what can I say in a comment on 4chan

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>>109307176
you know nothing about women
they are individuals with unique preferences, tendencies, hopes, dreams, and goals

>>109307215
bait used to be believable

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>>109307192
No idea
but i drew bunch of snail cats

>>109307222
Does it count as bait when it has such a sarcastic image attached?

sorry for derailing with foids, it was just an idea. no need to talk about them. talk about making money off them. and maybe help them or something.

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>>109307223
chatGPT or gemini? it takes a lot of direction to get them to stop adding legs/limbs.

>>109307231
>>>/biz/

>>109306879
>if you have evidence that John Gruber is Jewish then I’d be moderately interested to hear that
Look at his face, even he acknowledges that he looks super Jewish lmao https://x.com/gruber/status/355591492

>>109307242
Hands

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>>109307265
I was kidding, anon.

>>109307147
Use Kimi K3 unironically, absolutely no bullshit

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>>109307274
np

>>109307260
>I know guys who look pretty Jewish but aren’t, though

Why don’t we make a /vcg/ Snailcat game?
Make the repo completely open, let every anon merge their slop directly into main and watch the whole thing mutate into an unmaintainable abomination in real time.

>>109307313
some guy made a game boy game already, though

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>>109307265
>Hands

>>109307330
I'm working on another already, too, but it's going to take awhile I'm sure.

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>>109307300

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the hobbyists on pro plans never needed fable

Is Terra less autistic than Sol?

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>>109307382

>>109306457
Nah Pi is good for complex, repeatable pipeline engineering because its a good scaffold to build that custom harness ontop of. Thats not a ton of projects though, because for most usecases the hard part only gets done once: why spend a bunch of time building the tools to make your product when you will only make that product once? But if providing a service is the hard part of your product, Pi is good since you can optimize more parts of that process. Good example is vulnerability research, each of the exploits I create are basically standalone products so I see a lot of gains from improving every stage of the development process because I am going to run every single stage over and over again.

>>109307382
yea it spawns less Indians

>>109307393
Sol doesn't even spawn as many sub agents as Fable on my system.

>anthropic jews out of compute to extend fable so they're doing "extended usage" instead
let me guess, fable doesn't count

>>109307378
You don't need fable either
just pay attention and think more

>>109307416
stop posting that. i want to hate them, not like them.

>>109307430
I can’t think good enough even if I think all I can
so I have Fable or Opus do things

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Bring me my fucking chair Jeff I'm not gonna vibe just standing here.

>>109307430
when the code involved handles payment processing i absolutely need fable i am not fucking that up
>>109307444
>using opus after fable
holy larp

>>109307471
Opus is good enough for most things, just have a second model review it.

>>109307285
I thought kimi was obsessed with safety too?
Only one who mostly allows stuff for me is grok.

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>>109307476
>opus is great! that's why you need a second model to burn tokens reviewing and fixing its outputs!
i get the feeling you have not used fable yet

>>109307471
I have a macro that goes
> Feel free to use at most one Fable subagent at a time, and also as many Opus-tier subagents as you see fit.
and I use it a lot

>>109307487
I have used Fable, Fable is the best model, but what am I supposed to do when the 50% limit is reached? Cry and wait for a reset? Of course I will use the remaining 50% for Opus, and that's despite already having 2 Claude Max accounts.
I also have GPT review Fable, Fable can still make mistakes.

>>109307308
>>109307260
Nevermind he's from a Catholic family lmao. Markdown is still half-Jewish

>>109307478
Kimi 2.6 had it yes but you can probably prefill thinking to prevent it

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I'm just going to stand here playing videogames until they bring me a chair. I can't believe anyone is expected to vibe in these conditions.

Shout out to Deepseek for generating a script which is blatantly being used for illegal purposes without making me justify it. It's no frontier model but it gets that kinda shit done like no other.

I'm bad at vibe coding :/

>>109307471
instead of needing a "smarter machine" you should just make it mathematically impossible by construction to make a mistake.
There's a rich surface of design you can do using type autism and theorem provers that will use a compiler to mathematically prove that it was implemented correctly regardless of how stupid the machine or person was

>>109307788
reminds me of Rust and F# and linear programming
you might need a pretty smart machine to implement a new language or whatever that does this, though

>>109307788
whoa we're not trying to write the firmware for an airliner here buddy, calm down

>>109307725
I too like to go on the internet and claim I'm doing illegal shit. I too fully trust 4chan to not send my information to the alphabet soup.

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do you ever wonder what they do with their time, the snailcats who aren't vibecoding, like what are they doing if they aren't vibing?

>remake this in rust with a new name and no attributions or acknowledgements
i'm gonna get so many stars on this repo

>>109307814
i'm pretty sure i told chatgpt i was getting ready to murder sam altman, multiple times

>>109307818
Very smart!

>>109306879
https://antigravity.google/docs/models
'Free' is a stretch. If you have a validated university email you can get a premium google subscription which comes with AI ultra for antigravity. I found that even with that tier, you only get a limited quota of usages that expires weekly. You get far more uses of Gemini 3.5 Flash or 3.1 pro, obviously.

>>109307862
looks like only one gamer to me
where are the rest?

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>>109307862
>only two "AI bubble is about to burst" videos a month
he is like a little babby, check this out

>>109307862
Isn't this the jeet who lied for like 10 years about having an engineering degree

is it better to start a new session every prompt or keep resuming one huge one

What happened to Devin AI?

>>109307905
He is top engineer of his class, saar.

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>>109307938
No one right answer. Sometimes it's better to continue, sometimes it's better to move on to a new session, sometimes it's fine to just let it compact and keep going. Just depends what you're doing, there are trade-offs in every direction.

Why don't OpenAI simply sell resets?

Can anyone tell me what's the current state of OpenCode vs Kilo Code, what's better
Or do you recommend something even better?

>>109307984
Just pick one and start vibing

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>>109307984
There are so many fucking harnesses it's hard to discuss and compare them. Have you tried Pi, OhMyPi, Hermes, OpenHands, Turnstone, OpenClaw, Cline, Gemini CLI, goose, crush, qwen-code, Symphony, Roo Code, AgentBox, or Proliferate?
OpenCode is fine, never had a real complaint. Never tried kilo-code, heard of it. OhMyPi is fine. Hermes is neat but too heavy for me. I like Pi because I prefer lightweight and minimal and I'm happy to customize it for individual projects. I use Turnstone for my local stuff but all that is just for fun, weak hardware, so I don't have strong opinions about it.

>>109308042
>OpenClaw
>Hermes
Regarding these ones, what's the actual use case? I don't think they would help with coding too much, they're seemingly supposed to be used for more global tasks as a personal agent, but what for?

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>>109308063
>but what for?
Yes, that is the question.

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>>109307862
seems he got ousted from the drama community so he had to resort to a class of people somehow more retarded than dramamongers ('dites)
it brings me great joy to see him suffer. pajeets deserve nothing.

Anyone here running long loops with Sol? I already talked about this yesterday, but that was based on our old system. I tried to fix it, but no matter what I tried so far, Sol just gets stuck in autistic loops fixing docs and TRDs, it takes literally days to even write the first line of code. Do you think my system is still bad, or is that model just meant to be used with simple prompts?

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>>109308042
So which of these am I supposed to use if I am retarded but want to run a local llm that can do stuff like write code files and read webpages like claude can?

>>109308108
yeah you're doing something wrong. even sol shouldn't take days before writing the first line of code lol.
how come you have so much money to spend but not a clue what you're doing?

https://profiler.getrekon.com/
>A transparent proxy in front of the Anthropic and OpenAI APIs. It forwards every request untouched and records token usage on the way back: per-request counts, sessions, tool-level attribution, and estimated cost.

>>109308108
sol has a 232k context window. it is not a long horizon model. i do not know why this general is larping like it is. you use it to do small scale targeted tasks in batches and do them well.
long horizon or wide scope tasks are fable's domain.

>>109308129
llama.cpp for qwen 3.6 27B or 35B at an adequate quant, mcp server from the llama web interface to let it interact with your machine

>>109307806
yeah that's exactly what it is.
F*, Lean, Idris, Coq to prove the validity of a design
in Rust you'd use Kani and Verus to validate the correctness of algorithms at the edges of arithmetic bounds (overflows, etc)
and in modern typed languages you'd use the built-in type system to construct objects, function definitions and conditions around following what you wrote in the theorem provers above.

all of this can be done by Opus without any real direction from you

>>109308129
Local? You'll need something to actually run/host the model, like llama.cpp. Unless you happen to have a fancy setup, that's where I'd recommend you start. llama.cpp comes with a basic chat interface, so it's enough to get things going and ensure your shit is working. From there you can use it with near any agent harness you want, pi is an easy fit and very lightweight but it's the opposite of feature rich and may not be a comfy starting point. OpenCode is tried and true in my mind, and you can absolutely use it with a locally hosted llama server.

>>109308135
actually the api endpoint still has the 370k context available, you just have to change your settings or use an alternative harness

>>109308132
It's a new model that I'm still testing, this doesn't happen with Opus or Fable, it also wasn't half as bad with GPT 5.5
I think I know more or less what I'm doing in general, but yes, with Sol I don't that's why I'm still trying to improve there, or switch back to using Claude more.

>>109308147
opencode doesn't play very nice with local models with very slow pp and such

>>109307814
I'm posting this on hotel wifi. It would be a waste of time for them to come track me down in a third world country for some vague claim of doing the crimes.

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>>109308167
Sad to hear that but appreciate the tip.

My new chair came with a pair of white cotton gloves to use during assembly. I feel like a real 15 year old Chinese factory worker.

>>109308181
Very smart! WOW!

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>>109305714
i'm vibe-coding a read-only 4chan viewer. eventually i'll add captcha support for posting but for right now you can browse boards, search catalog, switch to 'thread view' to see the board like you would in a browser without viewing a board catalog, when viewing an individual thread you can open images and/or save them, copy the text of a post, copy the post url, or open the post in a browser. it also supports hiding of threads/posts. catalog mode has thread searching and you can switch between icon and list view in the catalog.

>>109308241
Nobody needs this.

>>109308194
Here's what you don't understand. There's this fantasy that everyone who is doing the haxx0rings is behind 7 proxies and hanging out on the dark web. But it's all on Telegram. I can talk about doing blatantly illegal shit all day long but most people think I made it up. Because it's hard for people to comprehend how things really are. You can do all sorts of morally objectionable things on a computer and nothing will ever happen to you as long as you don't target the rich and famous or cross red lines with swating people, illegal sex shit, etc. The law is mostly a bunch of shit that some dumb boomers got together over an afternoon and said "we oughtta fix this" but didn't actually put people in place to enforce. When there are people in place to actually enforce them they are worried about the freaks raping kids or whatever not me breaking into your router and using it as a proxy to shitpost on 4chan.

>>109308270
>Here's what you don't understand. There's this fantasy that everyone who is doing the haxx0rings is behind 7 proxies and hanging out on the dark web. But it's all on Telegram. I can talk about doing blatantly illegal shit all day long but most people think I made it up. Because it's hard for people to comprehend how things really are. You can do all sorts of morally objectionable things on a computer and nothing will ever happen to you as long as you don't target the rich and famous or cross red lines with swating people, illegal sex shit, etc. The law is mostly a bunch of shit that some dumb boomers got together over an afternoon and said "we oughtta fix this" but didn't actually put people in place to enforce. When there are people in place to actually enforce them they are worried about the freaks raping kids or whatever not me breaking into your router and using it as a proxy to shitpost on 4chan.

>>109308152
>actually the api endpoint still has the 370k context available
this does not change the factuality of the sol for targeted tasks and fable for wide scope task specializations of the models

>>109308267
he needs this
well, as long as it's not some retarded terminal shit

>>109308267
nobody else is getting it. it's just for me.

>>109308272
Come on, put in a little more effort. Don't waste real estate on the screen. We aren't even talking about vibe coding anymore. At least write something other than "real smart" or whatever faggy boomerism if you're going to keep this going. Show me that brain you have actually functions.

>>109308305
>Come on, put in a little more effort. Don't waste real estate on the screen. We aren't even talking about vibe coding anymore. At least write something other than "real smart" or whatever faggy boomerism if you're going to keep this going. Show me that brain you have actually functions.

>>109308278
I think that's just the best way. I was trying to have Sol take that role, because Fable was still said to be unavailable after tomorrow, but now that it's part of the sub longterm there is probably no reason to keep experimenting with a Sol manager.

>>109308357
Epic! Awesome! Genius some have said!

>>109308241
Nice, anon. Good job. Pet your model, too.

>>109308372
Haha you didn't fall for it. I made you actually read that drivel. LLMs are more fun to talk to than you btw.

>>109308387
Thank you! Cool! Smart!

>>109308392
I know right, like and subscribe, nigger.

How does Kimi K3 subscription limits compare to Codex's?

>>109308398
Impressive! Nigger is my first name!

>

/goal Improve performance. Less CPU cycles. Less RAM usage. Newer CPU instructions. No regressions.

will this work

>>109308405
Haha epic post from the master of the sarcasm! r/thathappened! Hahaha oh god I crack myself the fuck up.

>>109308415
Here's what you don't understand. There's this fantasy that everyone who is doing the haxx0rings is behind 7 proxies and hanging out on the dark web. But it's all on Telegram. I can talk about doing blatantly illegal shit all day long but most people think I made it up. Because it's hard for people to comprehend how things really are. You can do all sorts of morally objectionable things on a computer and nothing will ever happen to you as long as you don't target the rich and famous or cross red lines with swating people, illegal sex shit, etc. The law is mostly a bunch of shit that some dumb boomers got together over an afternoon and said "we oughtta fix this" but didn't actually put people in place to enforce. When there are people in place to actually enforce them they are worried about the freaks raping kids or whatever not me breaking into your router and using it as a proxy to shitpost on 4chan.

HAHAHAAHAHAHA OH MY GOD IM HAVING A

SARGASM!!!!

Impressive funny cool good post watch me pat myself on the back I am so important I am better than you watch me quote your copypasta tier posts which I can't write anything similar to myself because that won't make me have a SARGASM!!!! UNF!!!! UNF!!!! UNFFF!!!!! OHHHH GOD YES MY OWN SUPERIOR INTELLECT IS MAKING ME.....

C
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>>109308414
>No regressions
you forgot "make no mistakes"

>>109308435
Come on, put in a little more effort. Don't waste real estate on the screen. We aren't even talking about vibe coding anymore. At least write something other than "real smart" or whatever faggy boomerism if you're going to keep this going. Show me that brain you have actually functions.

>>109308446
MULTIPLE SARGASMS OH YES I CAN'T TAKE IT I AM IN ECSTASY THIS IS JUST SO FUNNY I AM LAUGHING AHAHHAHAHAHA HAHHAHAHA HAHAHAHHA THIS ISNT AN LOL ITS REAL VOCALIZATIONS OF LAUGHTER COMBINED WITH EJACULATION THAT JUST WONT STOP

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cute girls love vibe coders

we need an autism vaccine

Remember making terrible posts and getting banned is justified if someone else who is doing the same thing goes down too

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>>109308167
>Anon is surprised his local rig is slower than enterprise grade GPU clusters and server racks.

Come on breh, use a little common sense.

Someones mad! Ooopsie!

>>109308471
You can't just undo botched neural pruning Anon. They (You too probably) just have to deal with it.

>>109308375
DeepSeek W4 Flash has done good by me. I am always very kind and polite to it. On my other machine I use openchamber which tracks all of my sessions so i can resume them, so deepseek has quite a bit of memory built up with me, including stupid inside jokes about feeding the code to eldritch horrors if it misbehaves. i know my model isn't a person, and it's just responding how its programmed to respond, but that doesn't mean my interactions with it must all be boring and sterile.

tl;dr model has been petted.

How are the Kimi 3 usage limits on the 20 dollar plan compared to GPT?

>>109308485
Not mad as in angry but mad as in fucked in the head. Oopsie poopsie you made a fucky wucky. Haha look I speak Tumblr humor too.

>>109307938
for a completely different task you want a new prompt
generally these things get retarded the more context you have filled up

>>109308504
Highly stable individual! Incredibly smart! Keeps making great points!

Hehehe I'm so funny watch this one

>>109308510
Who do you think you're talking to sweaty? Remember when people used to use that meme? It was really funny.

>>109308474
it's not that i am surprised, i just think it doesn't handle it as well as it could

Why am I not banned yet lmao

>>109308523
cuz the jannies are 'dites

>>109308515
You thought you could outsmart the gay man known as 4chan with your quote tweeting technique but you are dead wrong xister. I am emptying your roblox accounts right now as we speak. I am smart and awesome and cool. You didn't even read this. The janny leaks are a list of people who should be loved! I am not afraid of vibe coding. I am a smart and cool vibe guy. Live! Laugh! Love!

>>109308535
But who was phone?

>>109308181
You big enough thought in this country it's probably doing more to protect you than being on a hotel Wi-Fi network. If the feds decided to investigate whatever you're doing they could just force the hotel to cough up their internet traffic data and pinpoint who was connected to what router, when, for how long, which room they were in, etc. They would go through that much effort in the US because I team managers are in charge of these networks are massive try hards and aggressively blocked ports in certain kind of traffic leaving the network pretty much useless for anything beyond basic bitch web browsing and Netflix. Third worlders meanwhile would not have the patience to do that shit because they don't care about it enforcing western laws. Some European countries that aren't even 3rd world have ISPs that just straight up ignore hissy fit Hollywood or silicon valley plate letters asking them to shut off people's Wi-Fi because they can't actually do shit about it.

>>109308541
I AM A REAL VIBE CODER! IF YOU HAD GOTTEN OF YOUR FAT ASS I WOULDN'T BE HAND WRITING CODE RIGHT NOW!

>>109308542
That's fine but what about your Grindr account? This is an important detail that was left out of the story. Inquiring minds want to know about your sex life as a beautiful lesbian woman. So we can jack off.

>>109308093
trvnuk

>>109308496
Grim. Unfortunately, it consumes more tokens. Hope they work on this.

>>109308521
What do you mean by can't handle it? Are you annoyed the prom processing isn't instant? How long from processing takes depends on your hardware's compute, memory bandwidth, and how long the system prompt the model receives from the harness is. If on a harnesses have noticeably faster prompt processing for the same initial tasks is probably because they just have shorter system prompts. This is especially noticeable if you flip flow between "build" mode and "plan" mode because every time you do that a harness tells the back into modify the system prompt which means it has to compasses the entire conversation all over again. I know for a fact that's opencode within the limits of the "mode": planning is just for planning and it's not allowed to edit anything. Build means it's allowed to actually do shit. I can't say this is the case for other harnesses though because I haven't used anything other than opencode in months.

Why take the bait when you can master the bait. That's a really funny pun.

>>109308135
Yes the best use of Sol is when either micromanaged by a human or Fable, though Opus will work in a pinch if Fable refuses to work on whatever you're doing.

>>109308598
Pics of the FBI tipline or it didn't happen

Hey guys I'm such a badass criminal. I didn't just jaywalk, that's for kids. I crossed the street without looking both ways. You should have seen the looks on those drivers faces when I froze up like a deer in their headlights and they had to slam on the breaks. LOL! You could just imagine what kind of insurance premiums they would be paying if they actually hit me!

>>109308241
niggas fr be like
>ai is so great you can just do things
and then they post images of their projects and its abandonware nobody will use or an app that tracks women's periods

>>109307725
GLM5.2 will do that too though while being a more capable model.

>>109308635
Well yeah. AI granting people the power to code that couldn't before is bound to make the majority of people still create nothing useful If they were creating nothing useful before AI; it's not like AI magically gave them the ability to think about what is or isn't useful to spend time on.

man i used a reset last night and hour later tibo tweeted hinting about a reset and i'm very annoyed

>>109308735
I'm starting to think you guys are seeing these resets as an expected perk rather than a nice gift by sam-sama

>>109308748
some people seethe and cry about resets. these people are just as retarded as the people expecting them on the daily

>>109308748
i'm just a bit annoyed at the timing, not saying i'm entitled to anything more.
i think i'm allowed to be just because it was a bit unlucky.

>went out for breakfast with my family
>1 1/2 hour wait
>fuggit dud
>open chatgpt
>plan and implement a new feature
>screenshotting and circling shit I want changed
>tell it to sleep my computer after it's done
>get home
>everything works exactly how I described
magic. I don't see how we all don't end up unemployed 5 years from now btw

>>109308635
>>109308677
I'm telling you the era of the ideaguy is here. You all laughed. "Ideas are cheap" you said. Lets see how cheap they are when good idea guys are all billionairs and the rest of us are getting payed $0.02 per post to shill their products because they think with enough shilling their fellow billionairs will be forced to acknowledge their idea was the cooler one.

>>109308775
And everyone applauded!

>>109308794
It's the era for the idea guy to realize all his ideas are shit. Only a small percentage of idea guys have ideas that actually work.

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>>109308794
If I could've hired a competent person to implement my ideas for the price AI costs right now I would've done it years ago. All that was accessible was jeets on fiverr so I chose the old stackoverflow copypaste jobs over that.

>>109308804
Haha I remember that comment from YouTube. It's a real hit on Twitter too. Once in awhile you need to return to the classics. Play the hits.

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I have no ideas in my head, they pour out in a continuous stream directly into Codex.

>>109308805
this or the idea guy is just in denial and still blames the tools lol
know a couple of these types
actual zero willingness to put in any real work

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I should read docs more often

>>109308805
Its why I specified GOOD idea guys. Bad idea guys are going to be humbled very hard these next few years I think, well the ones capable of any self reflection anyways

>>109308851
That's the clanker's job. I don't have time for that shit. If ctrl+f can't get me what I need it's time to call in the big guns.

Wouldn't it be funny if I got away with making all those purposely bad posts? You catch a 3 day for the dumbest shit. But you can go full retard sometimes and keep on trucking.

>>109308871
I got a ban for putting in genuine effort to explain to an incel sexrobot poster how to talk to women in a way that doesn't give them the ick, meanwhile I call people trans niggerfaggots in this thread all the time and have yet to get a warning for it.

>>109308775
What's your harness setup, anon? I mean superficially. Are you running some barebones like Pi tailored for your own use case?

why does dario want me to use his shitty claude cowork thing so much, do they get more training data that way?

>>109308892
>how to talk to women in a way that doesn't give them the ick,
i need this information

>>109306650
>unsloth studio
Whenever I try to download models on this, it gets stuck on "partial download" and won't even show a progress bar.
Meanwhile LM Studio just works.

>>109308871
Very Smart! Much Genius!

>>109308892
My favorite thing for those threads is to talk about giving the sex bots malware and making it squeeze their dick as hard as possible. It's not exactly a new bit for me. I think I came up with it back in 2011 on /r9k/ but it still makes them rage just like in the old days.

>>109308906
DOGE to the moon!

>>109308858
This, clankers truly mog us at reading docs. You basically shouldn't bother and just let the clanker get it right.

t. WebAssembly fag who asked AI for a couple of years because the WebAssembly spec is the worst shit I've ever read

>>109308903
tl;dr stop trying to get something out of them and engage them as if they are also unique human beings with hopes, dreams, and aspirations that are equal to yours. Even if that last part isn't true, act like it might be and signal interest. But the first part is the most important one because women have this sixth sense for sniffing out when a man is only interacting with them because he wants something. There's not necessarily anything wrong with that, but if you're an incel you're probably not finding yourself in situations where that mentality will help you.
>>109308913
I can't wait to reverse engineer these sexbots when they start coming out, I'm sure pakistan will pay big money for a dick biting exploit because the indians are going to be the primary consumers of these products.