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>>109346334
Anons, I am a 44 year old NEET who kind of likes computers after being addicted to the internet for most of my adult life. I have a felony conviction which causes me to need to register and report my location every 5 years. Can I make it as a programmer? I would settle for 90K starting but I would prefer to make it at FAANG. If I get a computer science degree will that get me a job? I am smarter than everyone I know, so please answer with that in mind.
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>>109346423
It totally was why he got let go. they don't like it when you confront them with the utter worthlessness of their made up terminology.
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>>109346423
I get really angry when I see/hear about someone slightly more autistic than me, such as that guy
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>>109346360
>Database Engineer
>Database Architect
You know what? After seeing a couple of database schemas designed by "software engineers" I'd want a "database architect" if I were doing a greenfield project.
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>>109346423
the only possibility this is real at all is that it involves basketball americans hired on DEI doing pretend work. nobody in the world could be this clueless to say that during a probation period.
upvoted for such an obviously real story. and take my gold while you're at it gentlesir.
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>>109346423
LMAO
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>>109346399
>felony conviction
You will never be trusted with Software Engineering or Information Technology.

I would suggest you apply to be a mechanic through whatever school program they got at your local college. Pay is decent if you specialize in stuff like Dieseals but you will never be trusted around aircraft and barely trusted around naval vessels.

If you were under the age of 39 you could still try applying for the military but a felony is a hard no majority of the time.
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>>109346449
Oh relax, it's funny.
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>>109346456
Eh. Not at a FAANG. Some smaller companies never do background checks.

Although I don't know how you bootstrap as a junior like that. Hell I don't know how you bootstrap as a 22 year old college graduate with no convictions and a portfolio of side projects. The only reason I got most of my jobs is because I already knew people.
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>>109346473
Yeah but nepotism and friends supersedes everything anyways. If you have a felony conviction you have a near zero chance of getting started. Especially since he claims to be a NEET so any major gap between work longer than 2 years is almost blacklisted which is why most normal people get their masters degree to make up for that lack of work.
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I just started an in-person course for cyber security.
The lecturer just played for us an EliTheComputerGuy video on Windows Server Active Directory Directory Management. Then asked
>Who here's head is exploding?
I thought the video was a good basic introduction. Eli is always very clear.
Then the lecturer drops a bombshell
>We are going to spend the next 10 weeks breaking this down.
My ears were ringing, I broke a sweat as a wave of panic rolls over me.
I'm going to be so fucking bored.
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>>109346334
>be the solo it admin who works with an in house programmer for a small company that is expanding fast
>have worked at a lot of larger companies so I know what works
>company admin is too retarded sometimes so now I have to fucking shape all their business practices too
>we're talking onboarding, offboarding, training needs and goals, fucking every kind of policy, shit sucks
>have to constantly prove that I'm fucking right and we shouldn't try to diy everything
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>>109346541
ELI's older stuff was pretty decent but he never updated those videos so its going to be as outdated as any college degree program.

I hope you didn't pay for that course it sounds mediocre.
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>>109346399
>I am a 44 year old NEET who kind of likes computers after being addicted to the internet for most of my adult life. I have a felony conviction which causes me to need to register and report my location every 5 years. Can I make it as a programmer?
is this a joke?
the whole industry is ageist, the market is getting fucked, and you think you'll get a job as a programmer... and, even more, you want a job at FAANG?
I guess you could try your luck. maybe some progressive company will give you an opportunity if you talk about your mistakes in life and whatever. I wouldn't expect to get paid much though.
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>>109346557
>the whole industry is ageist
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>>109346561
are you retarded? those whose age is > 40 years are experienced people, not some random retard who decided to become a programmer
also, your own chart shows that those 50+ years old are getting fired too.
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>>109346586
>every single age group except under 30 year olds has more employees than before covid
>the same boomers crying about ageism are laying off zoomers and blocking them from entering the market, hiring other 35+ year old retards because "muh yoe"
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE INDUSTRY IS AGIST AGAINST US NOOOOOOOOO
spiritually jewish
they cry out in pain as they strike you
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>>109346557
It's kind of crazy how around the ten year mark interviews are almost more about the company convincing you to work there than you convincing them to hire you.
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A great litmus test if your coworker is cool or not is to ask him what his favorite Final Fantasy is.
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>>109346613
many are calling it the most l1 helpdesk post ever
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>>109346613
Never played any FF game in my life. Sneed.
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>>109346601
>you are jewish if you accept reality!!
you are inexperienced and braindead if you are reading that chart that way.
probable the reasons for people of ages 35-49 are being hired are: 1. h1bs, 2 managers who work in other areas jumping into tech.
if you don't see the pattern in reality and the problem with that... your even more braindead
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>>109346755
>oy vey please think about the 6 million gen x'ers with 500k in savings, they got laid off and it took them 2 months to find a new job! it's a fucking shoah
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>>109346760
>I will make up some retarded strawman to rage on
this is the tech WORKERS general. not the "pathetic attempts at trolling" general
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>>109346443
you never were autistic, you were performative
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>/g/ please help me fake experience so i get a job anyway
>/g/ my coworkers are useless
many such cases
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We are now down to 3 people on my product team. My job has been reduced to compiling requirements, feeding them to an agent to be written up as work items on ADO which are then automatically fed to implementation agents. I assign pity tasks to the other two team members who take a week to perform a task an agent can do in 30 minutes, and the only bugs coming out of testing in the last 2 months have been from them. My boss understands this, but needs them billing the project to justify our budget.

I've spent the last 3 months having agents build all the internal "nice to haves but never had the budget" tools and interfaces. I've tried increasing the product scope, with minor success, but am limited due to not scaring the clients and "keeping the status quo" from management. Any increased scope I've won has been shred through by the agents.

At this point I'm just on autopilot until stakeholders wake up to the reality on the ground.
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>>109346917
thank you ranjesh, upvote!
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Agentic projects are a fad.
All the early adopters say AI is the future and will only get better.
If that's the case: What happens when AI gets good enough that you don't need to fumble with agentic projects?

If you believe in hyperscaling, then you already understand that agentic projects are a stopgap, and agentic stuff will soon become deprecated.
You have to bet *against* hyperscaling to think agentic skillsets will survive long term.

The only use of agentic skillsets is to convince someone to give you money for your work or your business, while the fad is still going.
If you're only in it for the money, then you are smarter than the rest of your peers.
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>>109347074
On this note, if you're not already good at cloud architecture, then it's time to learn.
Enterprises are already at the API-primary phase because local hardware just cannot compete, and this disparity will only get worse from hyperscaling.
Compute facilities will also improve and diversify their offerings, allowing physical and logical segregation of resources as desired.
Harnesses and frameworks are already mostly drop-in, and the current loose ends will certainly be tied off in the years to come.
Together, this means cloud architecture pros (that can orchestrate work while keeping costs low) will be the new hotness.

Of course, in the distant future, even cloud architecture skillsets will eventually also not be needed.
If you can follow a guide today on agentic projects, and have any sort of charisma, then you can get an immediate massive pay bump.
While the fad is running its course, get better at cloud architecture, including managing models and agents and etc in the cloud. So you're ready for that to take off.

During all this, you should be forking money between building a homestead and investing.
No one is trying to avoid the consumption crash (where a critical mass of consumers have no income to buy goods/services), so a crash is definitely coming.
There are verbal promises for a "robot tax" (UBI) but that framework has seen zero development/legislation and is unlikely to be in place in time.

I think it's inevitable that companies with all this power complete take over a random powerless country (like how unions take over a town).
This would allow them to operate outside of regulatory environments on all fronts, including creating "utopia" (dystopia) with gatekept immigration.
This would be a form of modern colonialism, the same way that colonial-era powers exploited foreign nations, "utopia" would exploit first-world nations.
There's already precedence with ocean vessels "buying" flagging from certain powerless countries.
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>>109347074
>>109347230
TLDR today's agentic model is not permanent, hyperscaling cloud is next, get money while you can to homestead and build investment capital, society will crash from lack of consumption, companies will exploit the crash to establish full legal independence, and the world will enter permanent poverty and slavery under techno-feudalism. Get ahead of it, do not fall victim to it.
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>specify exactly what jeet needs to do
>quick call?
It’s over
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>>109346334
kek now all the zoomer luddity makes perfect sense. it's actually the zoomers ai is making redundant
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>can’t tell if my user is a glowie or just super retarded
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>taking a fat shit during work hours
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>>109346917
thanks claude
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>>109346423
>not being a good boy until end of probation
He wasn't built for this
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>>109347691
actively sabotaging any attempt at async communication and efficiency, hate this as well
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>>109346166
It's called "love" and "empathy". I know, it's not something zoomers are familiar with.
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>>109348195
best
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>manager schedules a 1:1 for 15 minutes in the future
>I didn't see the outlook invite and therefore miss the meeting
>I ask him what he needs
>He vague posts and says he'll reschedule
I mean if he was going to fire me he wouldn't reschedule right?
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>>109346555
had a similar experience at a shitty startup. the ceo was beyond retarded and delegated every important decision to a "shareholder" who was just a guy working there illegally (got hit by a bus a few years ago and wasnt technically allowed to work). he is def experiencing some ai psychosis too, buddy ran essentially the entire company based on whatever a random ai told him. worked there almost 2 years and then quit, the other programmer there is quitting end of this month and the company is probably imploding soon after lol
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>>109348497
>it's not something zoomers are familiar with.
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is DevOps dying?
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>>109348919
I don't think so. It's not a fad anymore but it's holding steady.
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WHY HASNT LEETCODE UPDATED MY CONTEST RANK YET ITS BEEN 5 DAYS!!!!
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If your management isn't protecting you, is there a way to get out of bullshit projects? Aka stakeholder wants a vague fucking ask, won't clarify shit and then when you present them with something they'll either tear it apart and go NO YOU DIDNT READ MY MIND
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>Product released a buggy update again.
I'm about to write this shit on my suicide note holy fuck.
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>>109346423
Well the man avoided a company with retards and winners.
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>don't enjoy using AI as an employee
>realize my only option out of this is to use AI and try to make a product of my own
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>>109349461
Blame QA for not catching the bugs and move on. Simple as.
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>>109349637
It's our vendor. Doesn't stop the business team from seething on my ass and complaining and I can't BITCH too much about my vendor or they'll actually replace them and I'll be out of a job since I manage their application and account...
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>>109346423
circle back
doing the leg work
juice worth the squeeze
meeting minutes
deep throating
low hanging fruit
value add
on your plate
deep dive
deep dive
deep dive
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>A merge request was opened and needs your approval
>28 files touched
>7k lines changed
>Description has four sentences
I'm just... I really can't keep doing these requests... I keep trying to push back and reinforce our process but it really feels like the world is against me.
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I have to give a presentation on a concept I've been iterating on for 6 months, to people who've heard previous spins, and still has no concrete action plan (inputs don't exist yet). Wish me luck!
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>>109349955
>responsible in any way
lie, deny, embellish
>not your problem
matter-of-factual yep that's how it is shame huh?
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saar...please give refugee status saar
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>>109349865
Why do they do this? Since my small boomer company was acquired by a bigger one almost everyone adopted a cult like way of speaking where they keep spouting the same buzzword salad over and over. The fact that they also keep throwing English words left and right for no reason makes it even better.

>>109349891
I just refused to check this kind of PR. If they insist I tell them I'll need the whole day and they just have someone else review it, which means for approve it without reading it.
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>>109349891
Close it and make them reopen with 3 changed files max. Literally not your problem
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>>109349551
I believe in you anon, break free from the corporate chains, I'm sure you have a product idea in you, just take one hit, one prompt, just to see what happens, come on anon, don't be a pussy, everyone is doing it
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>>109350090
>I just refused to check this kind of PR. If they insist I tell them I'll need the whole day and they just have someone else review it, which means for approve it without reading it.
This, the benefit is two fold
1) You won't be the one having to do it.
2) If it breaks something after getting merged in, you won't be the one held responsible for it because you were not the reviewer.
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>>109350198
Oh and a third point:
You will not be at risk of being called a blocker because you did not review the merge request in a timely manner.
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>>109349865
Sorry breh, too many irons in the fire
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I don't know what you would call this but anyone hate how "political" work can get?
>Get task from someone
>do task
>have to be careful about oversharing, saying information, even just saying it's "done" could lead into something much bigger than it should be.
Like what do you even call this bullshit holy fuck?
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>three interviews today
>have no idea what any of them are going to be about
>one of them is a live coding interview, no idea what topic either (debugging, leetcode, etc.)
>last one is with the hiring manager and his boss
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>accidentally called my gf the name of my mid-but-cool female coworker
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>>109350160
I thought about it but I just don't want to deal with clients and all the bullshit.
The only thing that looks moderately hassle free to me is developing mobile apps.
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>can't even bring myself to write 1 loc
it's over
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>>109350498
>writing code manually
what is this, 1970?
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>Apple is going to fly me out to cupertino for FOUR HOURS of in person live coding
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>>109346334
brehs
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>>109350628
You said this in the last thread, stop larping. People who get to work at big companies like that don't post here
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What should I say for interviews on "why I'm leaving my job?"
I've been debating between these 3:
>Company is a mess organizationally, nothing can get done because scope creep moves the goalpost to infinity.
>Too much red tape, nobody actually wants change so it's difficult to grow my skills and improve.
>Commute (1:30 one way)
First two sounds like I'm blaming the company and the last just sounds like I'm whiny....
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>>109350947
I normally shit talk my current one, my mom says not to but fuck it
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>>109350934
I'm not working for them (yet) and its not a larp
u could just apply and like, get in if you leetcode and know swift lol
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>>109350947
The 3rd, you're not crazy for not wanting to commute an hour and a half one way
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>>109350947
Third + I've outgrown my current position and want more
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I wanna be a neet so bad bros

it's true as you get older you really wanna wind down. I got my etfs locked in a few years back. Things are ok. Not 6 figs yet. But I'm tired.

McDonald's would probably be more fun to work at
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>>109351004
Not him but I literally can't.
FAGMAN won't even give me the chance to interview, my applications go straight to their black holes. 7 yoe, btw.
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>>109351096
just, like, apply more?
I've interviewed with Meta, *mazon (fuck *mazon btw), Google, Apple, and Microsoft. Just like, have a good resume? 90% of the time the interviews are just soft technical questions and a leetcode medium.
Did I mention fuck *mazon btw?
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>>109351161
every time I hear a resume is bad I look at other resumes that are deemed "good" and I just cannot understand why they're so much better than the "bad" ones... I dont want to use AI to make my resume though I tried once and got zero interviews
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>>109351161
Funnily enough Amazon is the most responsive one and used to get back to me back in the day (but I flunked the leetcode mediums), now even they won't do it. My resume is fine and does get responses from smaller companies, just not from FAGMAN. I used to apply every six months, but I've given up on them a year ago.
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>>109351066
>>109351092
It's just more if they go "well....this position may have you moving around" that's not really a huge gamebreaker for me. The commute isn't even really a red flag for me, it's really just the first 2.
>>109350995
Last time I had an interview I just said the re-org shifted some of the goals and priorities and I no longer hold the same values with the company or something like that. Think that was fine but it's been a while since the re-org now and I don't know what to say for these bites.
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>>109350947
how do you retards have jobs?
>I'm grateful for the opportunity this company has given me and I've learned a lot during my time at this job, but I have outgrown my current role and I'm looking for new challenges with more responsibility that will give me further opportunities for growth.

you do not
>shit talk your current employer
>cry about a commute
>mention bureaucracy or red tape
everything you say will be used against you. you are giving the interviewer rope to hang you with.
fucking gen x retards
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>>109351161
so do you have an actual job right now? or are you a professional interviewer & the go to guy for when one of those companies needs to hire H1B but has to pretend they tried to actually get a US citizen, so they interview only the biggest retards possible?
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>>109351777
I think you're an angry laid off developer or a cocky uni studnet
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>>109351793
my lifestyle is funded by an ontological source of income
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I'm saving my tech money to become a human vet aka a md or work at hospital. >10 years of hard studies just to get dream 24/7 job. No more depressing weekends.
I love this idea so much.


>>109346423
He was legit and mostly right. Circling back is a phrase, but if someone can speak only in linkedin buzzwords then they ain't moving forward.

>>109351161
Is this a new persona of fu|7 d4l1t?

>>109349955
Sounds normal desu. Any time your managerales you pitch anything to anyone is because they have to do it but chances of success are low and manager doesn't want to risk own reputation.
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>>109346423
he's just like me
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how much gooning on the job is too much gooning on the job?
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Is AI actually useful to code, beyond weekend projects? I only see it promoted by these type of people:

>grifters
>twitter billionaires (advanced grifters)
>trolls
>middle managers
>people who were unable to code without AI

I'd like to hear a nuanced opinion about AI coding from people who can actually do the grunt work without the AI crutch. It feels like all discussion is immediately ruined by the bad faith actors, or people that want to bury their head in the sand (understandable).
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>gave my two weeks
>boss STILL asks me to work overtime
lol
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>>109352576
found a new gig?
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>>109352458
I have been using Codex to do my 9-5 software engineering job for me for months.
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>>109352458
I spend five minutes telling it what to do and it does it. Saves me a lot of thinking. A day becomes 15 min
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>>109352458
I tend to use AI as a way to generate a days worth of code in 20-30 minutes at my job but don't use AI on side stuff because what's the point of doing stuff to learn if you just have AI do everything
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>>109352458
see
>>109346917

It basically wasn't useful until ~Feb 2026. Maybe November 2025 if you were willing to bang your head against the wall.
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>>109352657
>because what's the point of doing stuff to learn if you just have AI do everything
I agree if your goal is learning, but if your goal is producing something, you can scopemaxx your side projects orders of magnitude beyond was ever even remotely feasible for a single person
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>>109351095
>McDonald's would probably be more fun to work at
No, it isn't. You're the personality type to post in this specific thread in this specific board. A service industry job ANYWHERE is going to crush your soul in ways you never even comprehended before. Service jobs turn you into a prime candidate for the CIA to turn you into a mass shooter. Have you ever wanted to murder someone for remarking about the weather or asking to see your manager? I sure have.
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>>109352718
I used to work there. It was fine cus I'd work 6am to 2 pm
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>>109352712
true but I really only ever do side stuff to learn
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>>109352679
>>109352657
Don't your ability to understand your project and general coding skills atrophy?
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Sitting in a cubicle having to listen to your retarded coworkers is fucking torture. Nobody fucking cares about your son's tball game you stupid fucking bitch
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>>109352819
quit your job and become self-employed
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>>109352819
What would Jesus do anon? Don't be so judgemental
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>>109352898
He wouldn't allow women in the workplace
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>>109352816
Yes. They are pushing it hard in my company.
When AI wasn't as powerful (like copilot's autocomplete or early chatgpt) I didn't feel it hindered my skills in any way. Auto complete saved me a lot of typing and I could use chatgpt for concrete, small bits of code.
They we started using Codex and Claude. Models were better but still needed a lot of guidance and planning so you more or less staid in touch with what you were building. Then we got access to Opus and Fable and people either just don't plan at all, if they do no one bothers reading the plans.
We had a chat about gigantic PRs with our manager because people just blindly approve them but the truth is thar absolutely no one actually knows the code base.
Also everyone acts like they're hot shit, self proclaiming them AI "experts" when you can learn pretty much everything you need in a couple of days.
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>>109352816
It's just going up a layer of abstraction. Syntax/standard library intuitions etc. are probably atrophying, although it's only been a few months so the jury is still out.

In terms of overall architecture, understanding the system as a whole and how the pieces fit together, that's basically the only remaining part of my job. I just delegate the implementation to a clanker. I assume that as the models get better, the level of abstraction that I operate on will increase.

You get to a point where you know what a specific module's role is and the general shape of it's input and output is, and increasingly delegate the ownership of it's specific implementation to an agent. Until you get used to the model's capabilities, it sounds terrifying to do that, and up until a few months ago, it was irresponsible. I would not trust an agent with that level ownership 6 months ago. With the latest models, I do.

I think the light bulb moment happens when a developer becomes intimately aware of what the model is capable of, allowing them to comfortably defer to it within those bounds. Doing that requires spending a lot of time with models, it's a skill in itself.

I have no idea how much more ownership they will be capable of 6 months from now. This could all change completely if there is another step function increase in capability.
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>>109352816
I mean maybe if you are only using AI for programming entirely. Doing outside programming without AI kinda keeps your skills up. I just dont care enough to try at all at my current job it's all retarded anyway
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>>109353002
I also want to clarify that my current set up only works because I am effectively a 1 man shop on my project with two developers that I hand fake tasks to. I have no idea how large teams of people could possibly be working on the same codebase in this manner and maintain an understanding of it. I honestly feel like it would just slow things down.
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>>109352580
yeah, but I actually feel bad. they've been nice to me but the pay is shit, they always ask me to work overtime, the job is terrible because everything is 20 years old, and i have an hour long commute. so on a regular day I would be working 10-12 hours for the equivalent of $18 an hour after gas and taxes and tolls. helldesk btw. never work for boomer companies. if you go into their offices and not a single macbook is in sight, fucking run.

>clock out
>boss calls me 20 minuters later
>"we have a problem, you need to come back"
>lol
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>>109352924
Not a single woman in my office.
As soon as I get there
>Anon have you watched the latest Netflix slop
>Hey guys are you going to watch the Odyssey?
>Omg I watched obsession, such a great movie
>Can't wait to play the latest AAA game for only $69.99 + tip
>[Background nigger music]
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>>109352458
everyone is using it. it is incredibly useful. anyone who says it isnt is trolling or retarded.
even if token costs skyrocket it will still end up being utilized in some way.
the anon that said it was shit until very recently is right. it went from meh to very impressive in a short period of time.
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>>109353105
I wouldn't wish this shit on my worst enemy
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>>109353105
pre-covid it was nonstop capeshit discussion. So glad I have been remote ever since
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>>109352816
yes. i dont know how fresh grads plan to learn how to code meaningfully. part of learning was getting your first job and just grinding stuff out. nobody wants or needs anyone under sr level blindly using AI.
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>>109353105
maybe you could join in on the discussions if they were talking about gore videos or hardcore pornography? weird ass freak. just turn your brain off and watch the oddessy its literally good and game of thrones is epic. you are just a gay nerd.
some of you freaks need to count your blessings we dont start giving you wedgies for being so weird at work. programming isn't just for guys with autism, OCD, or ASPD now, normal people can do it too.
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>impose quotas impossible to meet without LLMs
>we are still responsible if an LLM fucks up
>it is impossible to review the torrent of slop in time
are they trying to fire us with a cause to not pay the severance?
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I WFH and upper management expects me to become great friends with our stakeholders and customers in order to secure more business deals. But first of all, I'm kind of autistic and not a good people person, and second, our customers are mostly engineers and silicon valley managers who also aren't very social - they don't like talking about the world, games, movies, the World Cup, sports, or anything outside of work. They keep everything strictly business, and whenever I have a meeting with them it's over in 5 minutes.
I actually got chewed out by my boss today because he saw some of my meeting recordings and said I'm too cold and need to bring more warmth to the relationship I have with our customers.
So in today's meeting I tried to be more sociable and it went like this:
>welcome back from PTO, Sir. I hope you had a wonderful time
>"thank you"
>so what did you do during the weekend?
>"nothing much. I stayed at home."
>did you watch the world cup finals
>"no"
>it's really hot today
>"yes"
At that point I noticed he started getting annoyed with my questions so I just got started talking business and finished the meeting in 10 minutes.
This is the hardest job in the world
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>coworker has worked here 8 years more than
>got pissed when I was promoted before her
>threatened to quit
>management satiated her with a raise that was 10% more than mine
>a few years later
>we both get promoted as part of a restructuring
>same type of title, now both reporting to same director
>find out she's now making 25% more than me
Am l right to be pissed? We have the same title and that much of a difference in pay wouldn't be just from longevity
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the incidents keep piling up faster and faster
our clients are getting annoyed
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>>109353372
Odyssey was pretty mediocre. tbf my only personality trait is I hate my fucking job.
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>>109353795
>25%
That's nothing.
Where I work there's people in the same role that one makes 18k/mo while the other makes 3k/mo
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>>109353795
I assured you no directors are losing sleep over you making 25% less than her, they don't give a shit. The reason she gets raises is because she complains. You don't get shit because you just stay quiet,
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>>109353921
how is that possible
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Why are we dead?
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>>109353929
>The reason she gets raises is because she complains. You don't get shit because you just stay quiet
this. no one cares if you put your head down and work hard
i asked my director why i was being paid less than the other people on my team when i've been doing more work than them for over 2 years and he sent an email down the leadership chain inquiring about it
my manager blew up at me saying i shouldn't have gone above him and they were already working on something behind the scenes (which is bullshit because i already asked him a long time ago)
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>>109346334
if I am trying to break out of web dev into something c++ related like enterprise software stuff or systems engineering does it make sense to try and just make C++ projects on github or will hiring managers not care because my only job out of college is web dev? I am doing some online graduate courses for embedded systems that can be rolled into a masters in EE/CE but that'll take years to complete and is expensive. Do I have any other options or am I kinda just cucked into only doing web dev unless I get a masters degree?
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>>109354652
Be like me and luck into a company that has a fairly vertically integrated stack
Of course, my degree is in CE, so that also helped
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>>109354705
bro I WISH. Work with PHP and dont want to work with it ever again. Would rather do C/C++ I'd even learn rust for this to get out of PHP
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>>109354594
wondering this too
perhaps other faggots aren't as dedicated as. Email verification cannot be circumvented
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>>109355031
What does this have to do with computer science
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>>109355031
this is false
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>>109355031
Foids like this will cheat off some simp to pass their intro to C programming course and then get a job in marketing at a bay area tech company. Women in "tech" are a complete waste of everyone's time
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finally got my leetcode ranking. I am top 8% site wide.
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>work happy hour tomorrow
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>>109355419
Vacuously true statement
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>>109353372
Normal people only do a bad job at it and expect others to clean up their mess.
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>>109354716
[nospoiler]I have worked with PHP here though[/spoiler]
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I have an interview tomorrow and it's a job I really want. (chill environment). I'm currently burnt out on my role so I'm scared that it's going to leak out while I interview.... just gotta remain positive!
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>>109355540
but what do you mostly work with? Like C++ or something and just have some legacy scripts in PHP? Or do you do like light web dev as well as C++ or something?
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>>109355031
>spending your parents money on "education" and traveling/sabbatical year even before working for a single day
>to work in an industry that is collapsing
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I hope her daddy owns a tech company, is a manager or some shit, because otherwise she's fucked
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>>109355590
Recently, C++ on edge devices. All the PHP I've touched was legacy. I was supposed to port one of those apps to Typescript, but it never saw the light of day after the cloud guy complained about database locks and a fire distracted anyone from caring enough to fix it.
I don't do web dev anymore, though no
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>when dreams were nice but you wake up with a sense of dread
I just need to work harder, I guess.

Yamls-yamls spaces for space muskrat.
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>>109355031
women are honestly so funny. not the way they want to be funny, but fucking hell theyre hilarious
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>>109356035
>>109355679
>>109355121
I can see the visa rejection documents and salty tears even over tcp/ip, and shifting blame on women.
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>>109350947
tell them the juice wasn't worth the squeeze
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>>109354528
One lives in California and the other in Nicaragua.
I make like 60k/year because I live in Brazil and they consider this a great salary here, coworkers with the same role in california make almost $200k/year
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>>109353570
Char is the poormans Reinhard von Lohengramm
>hes lilerally me
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>>109356350
Hows Brazil Huehuehuehatsume miku?
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>>109356350
are you a 37 year old model who looks like hes 17?
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>>109356442
That guy is faking it. He's actually 14yrs old anon. The 37yr old meme is just to sell face cream and moisturizer anon.
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i look like this and say this
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>>109356445
BUT CAN HE SKIP?!
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>>109352458
i've been using it to shit out prototypes to show to client. Very fast and useful use case imo.
I'll try it out for actual coding soon, but so far the code quality doesn't seem very good. full of unneeded abstractions and duplication.
And that's like for a small 2 page vibecoded prototype. How can people skim reviewing and treat it as another layer of abstraction seems a bit sus to me.
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teaching bitches how to swim
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>>109352458
I am fully burnt out not only because of the burnout but also because I can only code or investigate a ticket with the assistance of Claude
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>>109346334
> Be a tech worker /systems engineer
> Get an ultimatum to work on a solution to slowly build away from our current faulty environment
> Can't even connect to an existing cluster because it is already registered with the previous environment which is also production.
> Have no hardware or see no option to deliver at least one milestone to my technical lead.
> Do overtime trying to get dirty jobs done.

I am just trying to pay off my current investments and then will spend more time to work on becoming a devops nigger or full stack with c# and angular.
I am so tired of living in Germany as well, maybe I can try to get a remote job with future move into another country once I amassed enough within a few years.

I don't have a wife, kids, not even been hugged by the other sex romantically since I was born.
Maybe I can find a job to pay me for surrogate children and establish my own family.
Or start with a companionbot first, to see how it feels to have someone around me.

I mean, how bad is life gonna be after being born and becoming an old fuck?
At least my kettlebells never hurt me intentionally.
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>>109352596
>>109352611
If this is true, why do you even have a job?
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>>109356713
NTA i fucking hate turmeric. Japan does curry better.
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I got a job

I will be an REDACTED Datacenter Tech yay!

How fucked am I? I was a Sys Admin before so I literally didn't do shit all day aside from moving shit around in Active Directory and fixing laptops.
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>>109356760
That sounds like someone who racks machines to me. Probably good exercise and low stress.
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>>109353570
>they don't like talking about the world, games, movies, the World Cup, sports, or anything outside of work. They keep everything strictly business, and whenever I have a meeting with them it's over in 5 minutes
sounds like a dream. tell him that you like your meetings because they are so efficient and to the point. if he agrees, you got it on video and can show your manager so he gets off your back
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>>109353570
Have you tried talking about open source software or AI? I work with a bunch of people like this and I'm like this and we get in trouble sometimes for talking about this stuff instead of working.
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>>109356766
Yeah and lots of fiber optics and Linux commands so probably a lot of opportunities to be autistic about Arch.
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>>109356797
>Arch
Ehh maybe alot less than you think. Consider Redhat, Kubernetes, VMware, Azure, AWS, certifications

Linux OS's i have seen but can't really say are definitive towards your location will be Redhat, OpenSuse, Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora. Other than that learn to hate windows server now its at least half the market.
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>>109353570
You're asking the wrong topics. I don't think any of them give a shit about the world cup. I don't give a shit.
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Fucking useless retard jeet asking me to tie his shoelaces
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My work's implementation of AI currently gives us access to
>claude opus 4.8 (labelled high cost)
>claude sonnet 5 (medium cost)
>gpt 5.6 sol (high cost)
>gpt 5.6 terra (medium cost)
is sonnet shit with fable 5 being the good one?
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>yesterday
>running on 5 hours of sleep
>got out of work after 10 hours
>had an interview that went pretty bad and couldn't explain basic stuff because my brain was fried

>today
>another 5 hours of sleep and 10 hours of work
>have two more interviews with the same company
please just put me out of my misery
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>>109357712
Interviews when you are dead tired are the worst.
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>>109357712
meanwhile, im a neet that inherited 1.5 million. but im locked out of normgroid life, too sleepyheaded to turn things around now
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tgif am i right fellas
thread song https://youtube.com/watch?v=KlyXNRrsk4A
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>>109356703
been grandmothered in
I suspect within 2 years I'll get laid off
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>>109357922
kek
but some gics and ETFs so that doesn't turn into nothing from ination
also, you sleeping well?
I totally get the locked out of normie living concept
t. employed to do nothing
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>>109356703
why do you think there's a massive job crisis going on in the tech industry
you need 1-2 guys kept around to do the work of 20-30 people
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>>109346423
>>109348318
The fact that I've been silently exiled until I quit for so much less than this makes me feel like I'm really not built for this.
I think I might be doomed.
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>>109358557
>>109358595
You're a fucking retard. Got it.
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>>109358753
seething on a Friday? brokie alert!!
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so apparently the leetcode knight badge isn't top 25%, it's 1850+ elo and top 25%, which equals to top ~4% site wide. So the minimum ranking is 35,200 / 860,000 users.
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>>109357403
All the models have their strengths. I haven’t been using Opus much since Fable came out. Probably the best for having a view of the entire project and doing planning/architecting with. I don't like using Fable for code reviewing other people's PRs though, it sure finds a lot of shit that it will tell you is definitely a problem but actually isn't or is pre-existing. Fable and Opus also go way overboard on the comments overexplaining shit in a way that is hyper specific to a particular context too so I prefer to use Sonnet for the actual dev agents once the work has been split up into bite sized epics/stories by Fable or Opus.

I don't have gippity at work but I use it for my personal projects due to being a bit more generous on token usage. Sol makes a pretty great dev agent, really good at autistic details, but it gets extremely focused on little shit that doesn't matter for planning while missing some big picture stuff. Fable is a bit better for planning imo.
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My app has launched, I'm now in the dreaded sales/marketing phase. It's a creep. Only a few users (including myself) atm. I give myself until winter then I will rejoin the corporate hellscape.
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>>109359541
but this winter is when ai gets beyond good
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>>109359594

It's already pretty damn good, and building your own app + business is how you learn to really master it. I've mostly played QA/PO and let it do the heavy lifting after templating out the stack and architecture.

It's actually hilarious how terrible corporations are at integrating it cause it really could lay off 90% of departments if you give your Gods the keys. I quit my last job because they were so pants on head about it and could detect this is my last chance to possibly build my own thing.
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>>109357403
Use sol and terra right now. The only anthropic model worth using right now is Fable. Reassess once opus 5 is out.
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>>109359624
And the sign said, "The words of the prophets
Are written on the subway walls
And tenement halls
And whispered in the sounds of silence"
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>>109357228
Lol
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Are people just really bad with tech? I started a new job like 9 months ago and busted my ass to get a good rapport. Now im kind of the quasi tech guy in my team, i didn’t even do anything crazy just VBA macros/some if formulas and power automate.

Anyways they are planning to send me to a conference to help get some automation ideas, just feels bad cause my boss gives me tech task but I do them so quick I end up twiddling my thumbs for the whole day/weeks.
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I used $40 in AI credits for cowork to complete our mandatory company AI training for me.
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>>109359616
why didn't you build your project while keeping your day job?

I'm all for unemployment, but right now it seems risky. Unless you don't mind working something for minimum wage if you can't find work or get your new company off the ground
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>>109357228
>takes his shoes off and kisses his feet
you know you wanna
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>>109352816
>Don't your ability to understand your project and general coding skills atrophy

Yes. It's sad but it's true.
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>>109359767
you boss wants to goon, but you keep working too quickly. Now he's sending you away to a conference so he can goonmaxx. Happy?
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>can you share your screen, I don't understand what you're explaining
>uh no no... I'll just send you a screenshot
>*sends a super small screenshot that shows nothing*
>I still can't tell, what file are you looking at?
>uh it's simple, its that one file, you know, I'll share later
I can't tell if this guy is hiding something or retarded
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>>109357712
you should take a day out when doing interviews, anon...
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>>109360192
I've had 4 interviews so far this week, 2 on tuesday, one on wednesday, one yesterday. today I have two more.
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>>109360229
ever thought of asking all those recruiters to move interviews to a single day and telling your employer that you'd take that day out?
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The job market is not based on hard work nor merit but a literal lottery of pure luck. The difference between living on welfare or being homeless and having a boomer-tier existence is entirely luck.
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>>109359711
Explain like I'm retarded please
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>>109360411
that boomer is just trying really hard to be artistic. Ignore him. North Americans didn't have souls until millennials entered adolescence, and even then...
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>>109346456
>get felony conviction for drugs or whatever
>DURR DIS GUY IZ GUNNA BREAK MUH BOAT
>I wonder why reoffense rate is so high
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>>109360487
>>109360411
It's song lyrics you dipshit zoomers. Ask your AI girlfriends to send you a TikTok link
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How do I TOKENMAXX?
I am only using about 30% of the daily limit and I was told it reflects bad on the management and I need to pump the numbers. What do?
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>>109360606
>>109360487
Why can't americans just...get along?
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>in a team meeting
>"x is going fine."
>senior leadership: "okay, sounds good!"
>my fucking boss: "ADDING ON TO X, blah blah blah blah blah. (literally just regurgitating whatever I said")
>senior leadership: "acktualllyyyyyyy can you check if blah blah blah blah blah blah blah"
FUCK FUCKKKKKKKK FUCK YOU ITS A GOD DAMN FRIDAY FUCKING SHUT UP FUCKKKKKKK
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>>109360561
Reoffense rate would be lower if we just kill you. You aren't getting access to things we don't trust you with, simple as. One strike rule
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>>109360728
>retard gives his boss material that he uses to prove himself useful
LMAOOOO, many such cases (even I0ve fallen for that shit)
just do and say the bare minimum, but ALSO delegate on him decisions that are not your responsibilities but his, and make sure to get that shit in writing, so when some bad decision comes back to haunt you or your team, you can blame him personally.
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>>109360606
correct, some boomer Garfunkel song. Boomer songs don't have insight, nuance, or beauty
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>>109360898
kek based

but you need to remember the spooks could plant evidence inside your asshole and put a bullet in your head from it. Might need more than 1 strike, unless a non new, non glowie witnessed the crime.
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>had a terrible interview yesterday (couldn't answer what the http code range for server errors is)
>felt like shit and wanted to die for the rest of the day
>just had a kick ass great follow up interview for the same job
>immediately felt a massive confidence boost
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>work in fw for a major system integrator
>having some intel fw issues
>intel support has me do the same fucking tests over and over because "the results" aren't as expected
NO SHIT RETARD, WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK I OPENED A HW BUG TICKET? No wonder the company is circling the drain, they're sending their biggest retards. Management is riding my ass because customers are riding their ass and intel doesn't give a shit. VALIDATE YOUR HARDWARE YOU STUPID FUCKS. Never do fw, everyone competent is either dead or retired.
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What's the resume meta actually? I know my current YOE makes me sound expensive, do I just cut it in half and fill it with bullshit I claimed to do?
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>>109361063
congrats young lady
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>>109359519
the amount to which people exploit the good will of people and the medical system is crazy.
people get all these fake diagnoses of unmeasurable ailments and demand through vicious legal action that you capitulate to every unreasonable ask they have.

>umm i have ptsd after my cat died, you need to give me full remote or i will bring the wrath of the ADA on you
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>>109361112
>t. peeping tom who NEEDS to see some chick's home via webcam 24/7
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>>109360898
You deserve being framed for the most heinous of crimes and getting fucked for life because nobody will believe you're innocent.
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>>109361123
How many people do you really think are getting framed for felonies?
>I'm not a drug dealer I'm just friends with tons of people who give me money for no reason and then they left all their meth at my house. I'm innocent I swear!!
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>burnt out
>doing a shit job on one of my projects
>manager decides to "praise me" during the team meeting on working on a project
>i've put the bare minimum effort because I'm so fucking done with this company.
>have to hear a 10 minute speech that's acting like I'm getting promoted (nobody even congratulated me on my actual promotion a few months ago).
fuck im cringing so fucking hard. leave me alone god damn it.
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>>109360902
idk what you mean by this
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>>109360297
have you actually ever interviewed anywhere
>try to schedule 3 interviews in one day
>"sorry we can't, please provide more availability"
>every email delays the scheduling by 2 hours to 2 days
>they reschedule your interview 3 hours before its supposed to happen
>attend interview
>interviewer doesn't show up
>takes a week to reschedule
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>>109360902
If I did this, we would very rapidly lose our bread and butter contract and thus my job
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>>109361168
ur boss loves how cute u r when ur shy
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What games do you play during your downtime?
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>>109361426
Summer-Colored High School Adolescent Record – A Summer At School On An Island Where I Contemplate How The First Day After I Transferred, I Ran Into A Childhood Friend And Was Forced To Join The Journalism Club Where While My Days As A Paparazzi Kid With Great Scoops Made Me Rather Popular Among The Girls, But Strangely My Camera Is Full Of Panty Shots, And Where My Candid Romance Is Going.
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2nd job 2nd time it starts to feel unbearable after 2-3 years
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>>109361257
>have you actually ever interviewed anywhere
I have, but since
1. I'm not american, and therefore I'm not overworked to death and burned out.
2. I WFH
I can interview whenever the fuck I want unless there is a meeting or some shit.
also, even when I was in office, I usually had some excuse, like
>I have to go to the doc, do some legal / medical procedure or whatever
and that would be NONE of my employers business, since I have LEGAL WORKER RIGHTS and people here are not enslavers.
try not being amerifat sometime.
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>>109361623
>workers rights is when you have a cushy remote job and lie to your boss and dont work half the day anyways
eurogroid moment, no wonder an iphone is like your yearly salary
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>>109361867
>MOM THEY ARE MAKING FUN OF US BEING SLAVES TO ISRAEL
>BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
>we have money though :^)
that's all you can come up with lmao
it's even funnier when you consider that your government is actively trying to make you poorer kek
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I've done like 25 interviews over the last 4 months and the questions I always get asked are
>why this role, at our company? (I'm underemployed and you guys are the only ones hiring)
>where do you see yourself in a few years? (dead and under a bridge or eating sushi and coding)
>why should we hire you (I will slave my ass off, I cannot return to underemployment no matter what)
>what's one time you had a conflict with a coworker, and how did you resolve it? (no I do not have anger issues, please move onto the next question)
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>>109361426
Ayanami rasing project, solitaire and majong
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>>109362019
What are your three most useless strengths and most debilitating weaknesses?
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>>109361933
>t. median home size in his country his 900 sq feet and literally half the salary with 50% taxes
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>>109362104
What's that in non-retard units?
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Finished all 5 rounds for this team
I will be finding out whether or not I get an offer from Apple next week
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How can I escape staff augmentation body shop hell?
>just get a role with the client
Our client genuinely hates us. We're viewed as jeet-tier losers who are still cheaper than having a real IT department.
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>>109363145
You'll be getting a gunshot to the face, self inflicted
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how come this avatarfagging retard never gets banned?
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>>109363517
>>109363573
why is diddyblud seething over black and white cartoon characters
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>>109346586
It says "AI (All Ages)" retard. That means AI at every age and level of experience. This is proof the industry is not ageist in the least.
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>>109358576
my investment guy is handling things, its cool. im not letting my money rot like i did myself kek. just slept for 12 hours straight, feels good. normally its 6-7 hours. how did you get employed to do nothing?
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>finish interview
>interviewer mentioned I'm not like other IT guys and I'm really friendly and outgoing
that's a good thing right? uwu
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>5 rounds
how does it get this bad i only had 2 rounds
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>>109363695
it's not 1995 anymore, boomer
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Company is offering me a $500 /mo bonus and $300/mo lunch card if I go back to the office 5 days a week. No more remoting. Should I take it?
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>>109363698
i am 20 years old and this was last november
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>>109346423
>it feels aggressive
poor guy doesn't realize it's supposed to be.
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>>109363705
>i am 20 years old
so no degree, only 3 rounds, let me guess you make $60k and the company has 20 employees
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>>109363741
it's an internship so i will be making about 60 over the summer yeah
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>>109363699
that's less than 10k/year. how long is your commute, and how much do you get paid by the hour? will you have to pay rent? do the math and tell them to fuck off
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What's the fastest way to convert Figma designs into code?
Backend guy who has been tasked with doing restyles of the frontend and I honestly have no idea what I am doing.
Right now I'm basically vibing it, taking a screenshot of a card, dropping it into Claude Code, and then manually tweaking it from there
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>>109360379
sounds like something someone without merit would say
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>>109362019
they're just trying to scope out what kind of person you are and how good of a goy you'll be for them.
if they were honest they'd ask stuff like
>you're not someone that will ditch us on a whim's notice, wasting this whole effort in hiring you, right?
>are you a scammer, retard, autist (bad), unlikable cunt, or deadweight?
>will you stay with us forever so we don't have to rehire anyone else?
>can you do everything we need done and better than all the other candidates and our competitors, for the least amount of money?
>is it cool we feed all your work to an AI in hopes of replacing you?
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>>109360379
the great men of history make their own luck.
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>>109363699
if you don't take it they'll just make you come back anyway or fire you
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>>109363752
howd you get a tech job without a degree
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>>109364217
apply, pray they give you an interview, if you do get an interview you have to be a top .1% candidate
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>they think you need a degree to work in tech
lmao
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>>109364318
u definitely don't but if you don't have one you need some serious effort and experience to gain the knowledge u lack, and of course recruiters are going to filter u out just for that and give u shit for it unless you have serious experience at faang or something.
if I could go back in time I would get a degree, 4 years of fucking around and neeting while my parents pay for my shit.
>t. no degree
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>>109364286
and how do you prove youre a top .1 candidate if you have no degree or work history?
>sheeeit, da maff aint maffin cuhhh
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>>109364357
He’s delusional. It’s literally complete luck whether they choose to interview you or not. Amazing candidates are viewed as “overqualified” and not interviewed
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At this point it's probably easier to start your own company than to go get hired by some shitter company. And while you're at it you have higher earning potential.
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>>109364425
how would a fledgling company find clients? what would you start as a small business owner?
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i graduated with a 4.0 in CS from my state school on a full ride and i feel like the whole experience was worthless.
my whole life i wanted to work for a big company like apple or google, and instead i work for a small family owned firm where i barely do any engineering. i like the company, and i make 75k doing nothing most of the time, but i feel so disappointed, like i failed.
i probably could've grinded leetcode but i guess i just didn't have it in me anymore. i did all that while i was a student in the early 2020s during peak h1b and layoffs and i had so many bad interviews and i got ghosted by so many employers that it demoralized me.
the bright side is i'm only 22 so i guess i could pivot but i feel like every day i spend at this local company lowers my odds of ever breaking into big tech.
i already took the lsat so i might just pivot into law at this point. i love computers but i hate the tech industry right now.
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>>109364470
>thinking that retard has any practical advice to give
lol
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>>109364471
whatd you get on the LSAT? being a lawler seems pretty gay imo, just wearing little suits and sucking up to kikes and kike judges.
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>>109364485
172
want to get some work experience maybe i can go T14 and get into biglaw and make 300k+ a year.
whether it's gay depends on what you practice. i'd practice IP or computer law. it's not like i'm gonna pivot into becoming a new york entertainment lawyer or something lol.
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>>109364339
>retard thinks you need a degree to learn shit
lmao, anon, this is tech we are talking about. if you like it, you CAN learn by yourself easily.
oh, I forgot, I'm talking mostly to people who don't like tech and entered the field for the money....
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>>109361426
i have a nes hooked up to a crt display right next to my work station. been playing adventure island 3, dr mario, and some mario bros 3 hacks lately. been playing double dragon 2 with my son after work, it's great
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>>109364474
kek i gave him a chance at least
>>109364495
nice..did you take speed beforehand? or get the adhd exemption, whats your IQ? biglawl sounds like youll be around too many jews and browns and women and brown jewish "women" but the moneys right
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>>109364545
>nice..did you take speed beforehand? or get the adhd exemption
how'd you guess lol. i actually have ADHD though i was diagnosed as a kid (supposedly...). i tried taking it the honest way a couple times, but the test is curved, and many people (especially immigrants and international students in china) were cheating the system through disability accommodations or by literally cheating on the test remotely using paid services out of china. so the more people that cheat and grift, the lower my score gets.
i don't know my iq, i think iq is kinda retarded honestly and i prefer using standardized testing and my grades as a metric.
>biglawl sounds like youll be around too many jews and browns and women and brown jewish "women" but the moneys right
you're right about the first but not the second and third. there's definitely hr slop but it's closer to working on wall street than it is to working in FAANG.
realistically most people don't survive longer than 5 years in biglaw, you get asked to leave after a few years just because they want to be constantly cycling in new guys. but in those 2-3 years you make a million dollars and it pays off your debt so you can go work somewhere you actually enjoy.
it's basically indentured servitude and the prize is you get to make 250k+ for the rest of your life. and unlike many sectors you can build equity through stuff like partner tracks.
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>>109364495
Pretty good. Below median for Yale/Stanford/etc. but not far below.
You could probably get lucky with at least one of the top schools since you’re pairing it with a 4.0 in a degree that isn’t polisci
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>>109364603
I mean you would think but I applied last cycle and the best I got was a waitlist at Georgetown. I probably could've went if I bothered to reply to their emails but after the 2nd or 3rd feeler it was already late June and I stopped responding.
Schools do not want to admit students fresh out of undergrad these days. Also, DEI, although illegal, is still enforced at top schools. So I'm kinda fighting an uphill battle here, being out of market, middle class, non-URM, with limited full time work experience. I have internships over summers but that's it.
Hoping if I work for 2 years I can grift it into something meaningful even if I do work at a really basic ass system integrator in the midwest.
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>>109364582
topkek, because i took the lsat and had adhd as a kid, but didnt get the exemption. it wouldve helped my score a lot but i have severe borderline so no one wouldve hired me anyway. glad i didnt attempt joining the normgroid race i'd just have had a stressful melty after my identity inevitbly shifts in 2-3 years and been pissed i wasted so much effort. im built for smoking weed, anime, and destruction. you have a good plan in biglawl, sounds like it could be satisfying in a lot of ways
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>>109364217
Not who you are quoting, but for me, I basically already had 100 credits in a Comp Sci program but was a serial drop out that got a non it technician job at an engineering company. I just consistently did 10x more than my role required, working software development into my role until they had me working with the actual dev teams half time. For them, they had a jr dev making a technician salary ($20/hr). I then straight up quit during the crypto boom and lived off bitcoin for 10 months until they called me back and offered me an actual SWE role at $80k starting right as everything was crashing.
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>>109364749
>they abused you, then totally made up for it
based
whats a non it technician job? are those better than it technician jobs?
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>>109364830
I did field data collection, survey type work. Typically a technician in that role just collects the data, they don't worry about what happens to it after it's collected.

It's funny though because I'm the only guy on the software side that knows how the sauce is made on the other side. Has been useful more times than I can count.
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>trying get a job for 5mo now
>apply everywhere
>get 305 interviews each week
>never go to next round
>reject by hr 17 times already
>my application to interview rate is 6%
>find a guy saying in reddit he found a job in a month by applying 20 times a day
>his application to interview rate was 4%
>he got 13 interviews with hr but proceeded to next round in 6 of them
>this is a 50% pass rate compared to mine which has been 0%
>talking to him
>learn he is black

Isnt a bit weird that 2 people have a similar application to interview rate but after the round with mandatory video where the cunts can see your phenotype the experience can change so much? Also this guy told me to work on social skills bro. Everytime you say you cannot find a job, here and there people you say that it is your social skills.
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>>109356433
Brazil is great for me because I'm a hikikomori. High-quality meat and food are really cheap here. Also rent and housing are cheap as hell. I'm barely 35 and already about to buy my third house sometimes it feels like I'm cheating at life.
The downside: if you're a normalfag who likes going out, there's roughly a 1% chance you'll get stabbed by someone trying to steal your phone. People here can be brutal and getting robbed often ends with you getting badly hurt or killed, not just pickpocketed. It's not petty theft you have to worry about, it's people willing to seriously harm you because of $100 bucks.
Electronics and similar goods also cost about 70% more than in the US, because imports get taxed at up to 100%. So my $200 anime figs ends up costing $400, half of it goes straight to the government.
Surprisingly enough the actual taxes I pay to the government from my full-time WFH job are only around 10% year so that's also not too bad
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>>109365311
Honestly. Don't think too much about it. Getting a job is 99% about luck if you don't have connections.
Also we're in the worst job market ever, I was getting job offers daily during the height of the pandemic and now it's 100 applications per interview.
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>voice concerns multiple times that what i'm working on is shit, it will confuse users and reflect badly on us, it's gonna be a bitch to maintain, it's based on previous shitty work that was half baked and i'm inheriting the mess and i'm the one who has to actually bring it to the users
>i hate working on it but now i've sunk too much time into it to push back again
>makes me dread working at all, procrastinate
>it's gonna reflect bad on me because i should have just refused to work on it, now i'm responsible for it
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>>109363145
Will you then finally fuck off with your cringe?
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>>109363752
You apply.
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>>109364470
If I were set on that path, I'd cozy up to a local shop and get to know their problems before doing anything. Then as part of the cozying I would propose an idea and sell my skillset. For example helping set up POSS. And maybe I'd do a little bit for free. Then propose more, and ask to be paid.

While doing this I might go to multiple other local shops and point to another local shop and say I'm already doing it for them. Stretching the truth. Maybe one would bite. That's how I got my current job, I was a "hot candidate" because my agent told my employer I was interviewing for other positions (completely true but they were shitter jobs).

You don't have to take it from me. Take it from another person with my mindset, a very public and successful figure that talks about grassroots-level building goinf from zero to established... Gordon Ramsey.

This faggot >>109364474 thinks everyone here is a retard like him but he is incorrect. I was just suggesting an alternative mindset but people like him think in terms of black and white and constantly get burned for doing so.
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>>109361168
>manager decides to "praise me"
I am baffled this is a thing. Nigga we are not 6yo, if you want to show appreciation of my work, pay me more.
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>>109363699
>$300/mo lunch card
yessss goy, accept the cashless society goy, feed the AI with your spending habits goy
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>>109349891
LGTM :+1: :shipit:
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>>109364520
>I am le passionate about tech
if you read what he wrote really carefully you will notice he said recruiters will skip you if you dont have a degree

utwg is down the hall and to the left btw
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>>109367308
Your degree isn't worth shit.
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>>109364582
>and many people (especially immigrants and international students in china) were cheating the system through disability accommodations or by literally cheating on the test remotely using paid services out of china

its so great everything is like this. third worlders pillaging anything they can get their hands on, exploiting it, or defrauding it. lots of positions of responsibility in the future are going to be occupied by brown people who have zero integrity and honesty.
cant wait to see more bridge collapses and buildings falling apart because we decided to mass import the third world to save boomer pensions.
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>>109366483
it's funny because I thought I would feel better after my promotion and raise (10kish more) but honestly..... I just ended up spending more due to work stress on dumber shit.
Now I honestly would rather get fired so I can pull all my money from my company savings to pay some bills and go for a trip. Everything also increased in price significantly so it's like... alright thanks?
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tech WORKERS general? >>109364653 >>109365311

>>109367308
people can't find a job with a degree, and you think you are better than people with no degrees because you followed an academic path and thought it would land you a job with 100% certainty (and probably remote, and with a >$100k salary). how can't you see how delusional you are? kek
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>>109364217
i'm a current student and the interview process went very well
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I told my aunt I probably will be moving to california to work at a big company and she started freaking out about cost of living and libtards and carjackings and talking like san francisco was iraq
I'm really tired of the chuds, both on the zoomer and boomer side
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I feel bad for you tech bros working in actual tech departments. I'm the only tech worker in my office and I'd much rather deal with idealistic fresh out of college cuties and milfs going thru menopause than beta bitch redditors and pajeets.
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i hope i get run over by a car
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>>109368506
You won't actually reincarnate in a fantasy world, anon.
That's just a stupid cartoon thing.
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>>109368669
good
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Why don't these fuckers just expect more from people instead of firing them? Like I can completely understand expecting x2 of without AI assistance me but they just keep axing people. It feels like shit trying to ping someone you were talking with yesterday and their account is suddenly archived and nobody in their team can follow because they didn't have the time to handover shit or all your coworker talk about is when will it be their turn
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>>109360561
Even a misdemeanor DUI years earlier, you'd be surprised how much it changes people's trust in you. People who've never gotten into any trouble will assume you're a total scumbag. Unfortunately, that's a lot of people, especially in office environments. You don't need everyone to think you're scum for it to inhibit your career, you just need like one or two key people at a company to. But a felony is next level. Even if it was for drugs, a majority of people will find that off-putting and not want to be around you.
>>109361175
It means have an email exchange with your boss for any meaningful decisions that would fall outside your responsibilities, and save anything extra you've accomplished or added to the project for meetings where your boss's boss will hear you say it, ensuring you get credit for it.
I've had this situation before where my boss is underqualified and basically takes credit for whatever I get done. Blame rolls downhill too. Hence subtly getting major decisions in writing by emailing them.
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>>109369249
Like I said: people wonder why anyone with a record winds up desperate enough to reoffend. What a trash system designed specifically to generate profit for private prisons.
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>>109369494
Kill yourself evil bastard, the old system was cutting off the heads of reoffenders and we should go back to it.
It's not the world's job to suck your dick for being a criminal
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How can we purge these threads of normies (that includes utwg)? Basically we have slow utwg and utwg mixed with barely tech blogging.

I'm sorry for normies who bought into tech meme, but what did you expect? For past 5-10 years tech has been almost like janitors buying stocks. If everyone is doing something then it's a scam or about to collapse. You clearly no capability to get a skill based job, if you thought it's any different from law, med, architecture or real engineering.
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>>109369515
NTA. You fucking moron. It should be in your interest so that those people are rehabilitated and back to being a productive member of society but you're too stupid to understand this.
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Looking for a sanity check, hopefully this is the right place. I'll keep it short.

I work for a small, federally-regulated company in an IT role. Since it's small, IT means everything, plus some non-tech projects as needed. And since it's regulated, there's a lot of compliance to everything I do and touch.

I've been at this company for about 15 years now, total comp is $200k. We formally have a 50 hour work week, but it's typically 55-60 for me (onsite only). The hours are starting to feel long, and I've run out of mobility in either title or salary.

How reasonable is it to find another position that either pays similarly with fewer hours (I'd love 4/10 or 9/80), or pays more with similar hours? I'm in the American northeast.
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>>109369743
Opinions are irrelevant, either higher a placement agent that will find a position for your or start applying yourself.

Be prepared to pay 5-10k to the agent but he will find you the job you want with the hours you want.
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>indian uses white thumbs up emoji in slack
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>>109369895
>Opinions are irrelevant
I haven't interviewed in over a decade, so I'm mostly interested in what the current job market looks like relative to my salary level. It's difficult to tell if I'm overpaid, underpaid, or about average by job postings alone, so any anecdotal feedback ITT is valuable.
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we need a new bread

>>109369743
I'm not american, and also don't know much about IT, but here's my opinion:

>total comp is $200k
>50 hour work week, but it's typically 55-60 for me (onsite only)
>find another position that either pays similarly with fewer hours (I'd love 4/10 or 9/80)
I doubt you'll be able to find something similar...
can you lower your living standards? if so, how about asking your employer to halve your working hours for half the pay?

also, does your company offer severance to the employees it lays off?

the future of the whole industry looks grim IMO, so maybe you could endure your working conditions a bit more while preparing to get a lower pay or maybe even be laid off.
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