Why are there so many objections about building data centers specifically? Like, aren't sprawling car-centric suburbs just as bad?
>>109377144why do people who hate data centers also hate being with there own dad?
>>109377144suburbs aren't proselytizing about how they will replace your job
>>109377144what a waste of tokens. get a refund for this prompt OP
>>109377144>Why are there so many objections about building data centers specifically?It's a psyop.
Yes, it is just as bad.
>>109377154There are many reasons to criticise AI as a whole.But why turn the entire debate around the land use/water use? It seems like a psyop to deflect attention from genuine concerns.
>>109377297>Won't AI be used for mass surveillance?Look, brown water for you>But what about our jobs?Hey, we just razed your local forest and built a new Super Ultimate Compute Cluster
>>109377297how is having a jet engine 100ft from your home not a genuine concern
>>109377144breezewood is basically a pit stop where two highways cross. would you rather there not be a place where you can stop to get gas and mcdonalds while on a roadtrip?
>>109377414just use a drone to drop improvised thermite munitions on the roof.
>>109377144Do I want to give up my nice house for the stupidest bullshit slop ever? No? No I don't!
>>109377297>But why turn the entire debate around the land use/water use?That's the tell that it's almost entirely artificial.
>>109377297>But why turn the entire debate around the land use/water use?the people who push data center development are liars. they lie about environmental impacts, job creation, tax benefits, and so on. i think the claims about electricity usage are likely true, and the water usage is dependent on the type of cooling -- but even if it's not true, who cares? the truth never wins. the truth is for goyim.
>>109377144Do you enjoy having to pay exorbitant markups on electric/water bills to fund power grid expansions that almost solely benefit the new datacenter being constructed in 2028?
>>109377144too many tranny snailcats
>>109377144>we already fucked these things up so we may as well fuck more things up
>>109377624>lives in singa>marries white golddiggerbrehs
>>109377144They are both bad should both be rejected
>>109377144Chinese propagandists didn't convince them they're bad yet.
>>109377144jeetcorp cloud computing and llms suck unwashed anus as do subscription online only games, digital distribuion, 2fa, cloud storage, token llms, azure, aws etc. Its ass pure smelly ass all of it, as is facebook, reddi, grok, copilot, google docs all of it, spotoify, youtube it's ass an pile of ass and ha is wha datacentres do he make smell unwashed ass jeecorp scam milk the trapped customer 'services' that are intrinsically slower, less secure and less p[rivate by design.I can only assume you are a jeetcorp unwashed anus licker..
>>109377839Gimped subscipe services and jeet corp troons with forced memes. You are a symptom of shit.>>109377892>slower, less secure and less private by design.You;re the fucking luddite trying to haul us back to mainframe hell./
>>109377414is there ever four chemtrail tier steam?
>>109377144>just as bad
>>109377297>But why turn the entire debate around the land use/water use?Because that's a concrete thing that people can understand instead of abstract debates about copyright, privacy and artistic integrity which are essentially just opinions at the end of the day and can easily be endlessly deflected until it's too late and the whole business is too entrenched.
>>109377144That's not a suburb, by the looks. That's a place where a lot of freight moves. There's probably some nearby warehouses and rest stops out of frame.
>>109377144They're loud as shit, so if you like doing stuff outside you're fucked.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wDr2dec474
it's the latest meme, but at least it's *rooted* in realitydata centers buy local electricity and that drives the prices up for normal people. I don't think it was ever an evil plan by IT companies, they simply didn't know very much the full power market beyond what they negotiated for their data centers and they are responding to discontent, since while paying higher prices *does* affect their bottom line, it doesn't affect it *that* much, under 10% increase in TCOhttps://techcrunch.com/2026/06/22/microsoft-and-chevron-plan-one-of-the-largest-gas-powered-data-center-projects-in-us/
>>109378297There are already industrial areas that aren't residential where industrial buildings are, though.
>>109378319yes? which is data centers move into those areas
>>109378401>>109377414
>>109378416>>109377414if there were a jet engine 100ft from your homeyeah it would be a genuine concerngood thing it doesn't happen? dumbfuck?
chinese shills>>109377433buddy this is as bad as it is described to look unless youre american
>>109378461Do you not see the 4 giant diesel generators or are you too retarded to recognize what they are?
>>109378466Nothing bad about it at all. Places like this are more important to the economy than any data center because places like this are how food gets to stores.
>>109378473they are *backup* generators??? cretin???
>>109378517How do you know they aren't supllemental?
>>109378536because they aren't running all the time?????? imbecile??????
>>109377144What the fuck is going on with the sides of the picture?
>>109377566I got a job from a datacenter.I wonder how many people complaining about DCs actually have a good, stable job, that lets them be comfortable.
>>109378562You've never seen that turd filter used to adapt 4:3 images to widescreen or vertical phone videos to widescreen?It's common with TV news
>>109378598Why would you need to adapt them, just show the fucking picture as is.
>>109378466It's not somewhere you live. You just stop there while driving, eat, get gas, then get moving.
>>109378629Black bars a bad now or something
>>109378561They wouldn't necessarily run 24/7 if they were supplemental.
>>109378662we'll never know I guess. idiot.
>>109378669So, you admit you made shit up like a retard, but have to still call somebody stupid. Where are the the conceited question marks?
>>109378662NTA but you don't use diesel for any type of supplemental or primary power.Cost 2-4x compared to utility and maybe 10x compared to turbines.If you want on-site power diesel makes zero sense
>>109378688So, what's the next likely source of noise pollution?
>>109378678no? because I can do a basic google search?the cable news master baiter is standing 50 ft from the """"""jet engine""""""" and can't even capture the sound on the microphonethe fact that you went through so much SEETHING and COPING, all your head, without even caring about the reality shows how absolute drooling tattooed genetic nigger trash the "concerned population" like you is
>>109378662>>109378688If there isn't enough grid capacity it's pretty common to use supplemental diesel generators until power lines and substations are built, which could take many months of 24/7 generators running
>>109378701Cooling towers.Although from my experience, they aren't that loud. It's just big fans.>>109378720Diesel is expensive. That DC was built in 2015, it's not waiting on anything. It's backup power
>>109377414What's that?You don't want a jet engine test cell right next to your hotel?Well too bad.https://youtu.be/Ow7rhOmHEoY?t=247
>>109378710You're a dishonest axe-grinding shill who was previously saying that these weren't near or in residential areas.
>>109378741>I lost an argument, quick, let me construct a argument for the other guy that he never made, defeat it with Facts and Logic and call him a shillmouthbreathers like you are so predictableyou never lose any argument through a combination of goalpost moving and imagination
>>109378741Alot of them being built are not.There is always exceptions.But you're retarded if you honestly think it's anyway advantageous to build on/near existing residential aeras just because of land costs.Do you think people building DCs are fucking doctor evil just plotting look for expensive aeras to disturb the most people?
>>109378725>It's backup powerNever seen a backup generator with a smokestack that high
>>109378771>>109378769Sorry, but calling someone a tatooed nigger and aping "cope" and "seethe" isn't winning an argument, and me asking you a bunch of questions in order to catch you in your glib lies isn't what an argument is.
>>109378771>>109378283Do you not understand the the DC is stringing along the county with their non-compliance issues so that they have an excuse to buy more land to justify their expansion into a residential area? Do you think that wasn't a preconceived strategy?
>>109378835>o buy more land to justify their expansion into a residential area?Ask yourself WHY they would want to?Why would DCs bend over backwards to take over what is expensive land?Places with houses on them are going to be much more expensive to acquire than open industrial zoned aeras
>>109378880To expand beyond the limits of the industrially zoned area.
>>109378688They have gas turbines that run off propane or LNG https://www.gevernova.com/gas-power/resources/case-studies/crusoe-ai-data-centers-lm2500xpressThis is basically the engine from a dc10 and they are designed for continuous operation
>>109378688retarded much?
>>109379140No shit, but the DC in question doesn't run turbines.>>109379152>something exists>they must be using itIs this really the level of discourse we are at?
>>109378835This companies CEO came out and said "if you don't like the noise, we'll buy your house". Obviously they want to raze the neighborhood so they can expand onto that land. The noise probably isn't even necessary for operations, it's something they're doing to destroy property values so they can get the land easily.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAQsnrAHy5YMany of these houses are over 100 years old so they data center can't claim they were there first.
>>109378810why didn't you have a problem with "my claim" "that I made" about there being zero datacenters near or even in residential areas before you've lost an argument to me about a datacenter in a residential area, fuckface?>inb4 CUNNING PLAN
>>109379210Would you like to know more?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wDr2dec474
The stupid thing with the Dowagiac data center is that there used to be a wall of trees between the building and the neighborhood back before it was bought up to be a data center. For some reason, they decided to cut down all the trees on the right side of pic related, removing what worked as a noise barrier between the building and the neighborhood. Can't think of any reason why they would do this other than to ensure the neighborhood got exposed to as much noise as possible.
>>109378594i work from home and make $170k a year and i oppose AI data centers.
>>109379195>you don't use diesel for any type of supplemental or primary power.is a blanket statement, which is objectively incorrect.
>>109377883For real tho it’s depressing how many foreign shills there are.Just a total DDOS of public debate by malicious actors.The internet has failed the free world. If you can even call this world “free” anymore.
>>109379491Funny thing is all Hiro would need to do to fix that is block all traffic from IPs outside the US as well as all known VPNs.He won't though.
>>109379311Those shrubs arent blocking anything but a good time.
>>109377144Many points.1 - people who live around data centres have been proven to be paying for it with increased energy costs and water price/quality going to shit. Is it every datacenter? No but it’s enough to make simple minded people who still think AI is just ChatGPT 3.5 back from 2022 be against it.2 - It’s the only real way average people can fight against AI. If you hate the fact that LLMs are here and are getting better then your only real weapon is protesting datacenter buildouts in your area.3 - By all accounts it’s either an economic bubble or job apocalypse, and in either way you and other people who don’t own millions or billions in assets are fucked if it pops or takes enough jobs away without building new ones.4 - As said here previously people who shill for them lie, all jobs created by them are temporary or in such insignificant amounts they might as well not exist.
>>109377297>But why turn the entire debate around the land use/water use?cuz green party niggers thought they were successful when they used that argument on bitcoin miners. it was the reason the Biden EPA wanted the gps coordinates of all bitcoin mining operations in 2024
>>109379394It's within the context of data centers, which is the entire thread.I'd like to learn of a DC that actually relies on diesel not just as a backup but as a primary supply, but as far as I am concerned, it's not very economically viable.
>>109378801They're just happy to see you.
>>109378072Jet engines don't produce chemtrails.The chemical sprayers do.They don't really gain anything from spraying chemicals at the backside of their datacentre, so they don't bother installing those.
>>109379311Literally just because the trees would technically cost money to keep trimmed. Why not just let the trees exist naturally and not feel the need to constantly chop them up you ask? Because if a heckin branch fell on someone we could get heckin suedThis is common practice for any development in America. Part of why the country is so ugly and depressing (as an American)
>>109379762https://www.cummins.com/en-na/generators/data-centersyou have no clue what you are talking about.
