>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helpedGuide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, XT M3ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207/217, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50, BF360Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUBudget: 7500F, 7/9600/X, 225/F, 12600K/F, 5600/XGaming: 9850X3D, 9/7800X3D, 250K, 5800XTWorkstation: 9950X/3D, 9900X/3D, 270K>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Lian Li GA II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, be Quiet Silent Loop 3Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-7, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change), KryoSheet (carbon sheet)*Most listings online are not actually 7950>MOTHERBOARDAvoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.On Raptor Lake microcode updates are mandatory, avoid second-hand>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)DDR4: 3200CL16, 3600CL18>SSD (Keep firmware updated)DRAMless: 7100, NM790PCIe Gen 4.0: 850XGen 5.0: 8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt, 5060-Used: Turing*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5070, 9070-Used: 3080/tiHigh-end: 5070ti, 9070xtWorkstation: 5090, 7900XTX>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz IPS, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), discounted OLED4K:KTC M27P6 (miniLED), discounted OLED>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Pure Wings 3, Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Prev: >>109374794
>>109385220neither of those have ray reconstruction on THO
>>109385220back in my days, 256bit busses were found on low-mid range gpus
i aint sourcing u shit. fuck apple.also the anon who says macbooks cant game is wrong. they can play hundreds of games. but apple doesnt want you to so you still cant. so you're kinda right too.but yeah are macbooks good? if you can snag one of the new airs on sale for $800 or $900 maybe. but those are trash for gaming because no fans. but they can play indies n shit. so apple is a meme? overwhelmingly yes. only redditors and discord users will defend apple. even people who own apple products hate apple.
>>109385167>that picturekill an AIO speedrun any%?
>>109385306>but those are trash for gaming because no fans>no fansThe fuck?
>>109385318they are student and "work" laptops. while you can technically use them for more you're asking for a bad time. essentially, apple silicon does some insane lifting and they unironically do not need fans. you know, until you start doing actual computer stuff.i will admit apple silicon is revolutionary. but every other company will just invent their own silicon that is not apple trash. hopefully.
so when are the Cooler Master MasterFan A and M Series coming? Is the M Series the silent Noctua replacer?
>>109385269They both crash just from different circumstances>>109385273TRUE
>>109385390>every other company will just invent their own silicon that is not apple trashdevelopers are just going to find new way to trash it all up. apple final cut is above everything else.
>>109385432no it isn't lol. i do admit they will fuck it up though.
>>109385306>i aint sourcing u shit.Yeah because you fucking can't.
>>109385500have you tried editing with adobe slop on windows? final cut is just better in every single way. it's more stable, responsive, less buggy and more enjoyable because of it.
>>109385518because you simply cannot do your own research. i will explain it to you again.if you put a certain amount of apple IDs on a macbook. add, remove. add, remove. you are unable to add another after X amount of attempts. This is a fact.here you go retard. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253509555?sortBy=rank
>>109385581Except that your source clearly says about creating a new Apple ID on a device, not adding an Apple ID to a device. You can also just create a new Apple ID in the browser and add that to the phone.
Howdy folks. I found this XFX 9070 XT for sale. I managed to convince this broad to sell it for $450. Is it worth it? Never bought a used GPU before but im stuck with a 9060 XT 16 gb and feel this wont be enough power to last me until the PS6 generation. I heard the XFX cards have coil whine and poor cooling, is that true? If so, should I just pay $750 for a Powercolor hellhound since I heard its the best 9070 XT card?Im on Linux btw so KikVdia is out of the question.
>>109385648please just shut the fuck up. you are ragebaiting me and i fell for it.i don't like to use the word ragebaiting but you literally did that to me. congratulations i'm retarded.
>>109385659I thought the xfx mercury 9070xt was top tier for OCing?
>>109385665Yeah, you are retarded. At least that fact isn’t lost on you.
>>109385659killer dealit's loud as fuck but worth 450
>>109385659>3.9 in reviewsYou’re going to get scammed lol
>>109385678is it? I dont know what the fuck im talking about then. I just remember someone spamming the hellhound here and thought that was the best 9070 XT. Heres another pic they sent me Would undervolting fix the noise and cooling issues? Or is it stuck this way? I hate how many volts the XT pulls, 330 W for 5070 TI performance is ridiculous........>>109385719I looked at her profile. Her other reviews look good, just 1x bad review from some bald stone cold looking nigga. She also has pics with her wholesome family so I can confirm shes White and not Tyrone in a wig.
Oops sent the same pic twice, sorry
>>109385659>>109385758>>109385768Cool and all but why blogpost in /g/ about. Reply next time u fit in ur PC and see if it works.
>>109385796Sorry, will do! Just a little afraid of buying a used GPU since this deal seems to good to be true. Realistically....whats the worst that could happen? No way the card would be DOA....right?
>>109385827The card could be literally anything. Broken, golden sample, a 9mm to the face. This is the risk you take buying used locally. If you get scammed you can file a police report 9070xt msrp is within grand theft felony value.
>>109385852holy reddit. you actually expect the police to do anything?"my heckin graphics card got stolen" they are literally not going to do anything.
>niggas can't even buy a used gpu without getting shot
>>109385862Police don't care for misdemeanor theft. This is upgraded to grand theft which is felony.
>>109385871They don't care about either.
>>109385862Holy third world ESL
>>109385876Maybe in your third world country.
>>109385870Welcome to AmeriKKKA
>>109385876Holy reddit man you are
>>109385877oi bruv u got a loicense for that gpu m8?
>>109385871This. Felony crime is worth police busting over. Not misdemeanor. In California the minimum for grand theft is $1000+ so this doesn't apply for 9070xt but in Florida definitely call the cops they do stuff and there's no parole in Florida
>>109385900They do not care. They are not going to go knocking on doors looking for a graphics card.
>>109385888>hello i'm here for the gpu>https://youtu.be/y4EaQ6vUNOw?t=12
>>109385907Holy reddit ESL
>>109385827>>109385852>>109385862Because it's $450 i do believe they are upgrading to RTX 5090 or something.
>>109385907See>>109385884
>>109385907They bust down doors over iPhones and graphics cards cost more it's all over YouTube police videos
>>109385932No they don't. All of that stuff is fake. And if they do, it's not because of the stolen technology.
>>109385907You must live in a total Ethiopian shithole...
>>109385938You are a delusional druggy.
>>109385941>>109385888
>>109385938The police departments themselves post the videos online. They are required by law to wear body cams and upload public references.
>>109385952"Muh cops are hard working crime stoppers" Keep believing that. Cops are not going to help you out ever.
>>109385932you could come around with device tracking here and they'd do jack shit most of the times
>>109385962>>109385963>>109385953Holy Redditor ESL Batman
>>109385969Yeah /g/ is full of third world fucks now lmao.
>>109385963>>109385962They shoot you in the face in Jamaica over expensive phone. Just saying.
>>109385907They definitely do care lol
>>109385907They knock on doors over stolen lawn mowers in texas and graphics cards cost more than those these days.
A third of /g/ is grok bots trained by indians
>>109386007No they don't. Cops do not care about property theft, lol.
>>109386009you should know. you are one of them.
>>109385659>9060 XT 16 gb>linuxThis is more than enough VRAM and the 9070xt is also 16gb. The not-so-obvious baseline for playing games on linux are steam machine and steam deck hardware stats and they're far below modern hardware today. You're wasting your money. If that 9070xt had 24-32gb of VRAM I would take it. Never buy a lower VRAM gpu compared to your current gpu, especially in this age of stagnation.
>>109385990I might misremember something but I recall they aren't allowed to use the tracking here due to the GDPR or some shit like this.
>>109386014Misdeamanors sure, felonies yeah they care. You sound high as fuck bro
>>109386014>>109386032Could it be possible that you two fools are on two different states and have different laws and different police attitudes?
>>109386047In every state that's not commiefornie the grand theft felony minimum is around 9070xt/5070 price and cops will pursue you over it.
https://youtube.com/shorts/iw7uwRPiCMwRgb woled Asus monitor already out there Hdr 400 lol don't think this is gonna be very bright
>>109386014Coos dont care if you steal $300 worth of weed but they do care if you steal $1000 worth. Difference between misdeamanor and felony.
>>109385220I got my RTX 5080 for €1000
Is 2x8 gb 6000 CL40 ram at $230 CAD with a budget AM5 CPU a good idea?
>9070XT has only two ''not worth it but if you get them cheap and use headphones they are okay cards'' and these are Swift and Quicksilver due to their 42db fans>Meanwhile at RTX 5000 serieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf-2LuqMNu4
>>109386132Put the CPU here. Are you doing budget 4k?
>>109386152I haven't made a purchase yet. I found a Ryzen 5 9600X on newegg $285 CADor a used ryzen 7 7800X3D $400 CAD4K games would be nice but not required. I have played on 1080p for years I can last a few years longer. I am fine with using upscaling technologies. I want to try keeping my build under $1000 CAD
>>109386019idk all the charts show a pretty significant jump in performance from the 9060 XT to the 9070 XT. But, I get what you mean. I dont even play AAA slop, the most modern game I own is Batman Arkham Knight. I mainly emulate retro games and have a lot of fun.I guess Im just afraid of my GPU dying 1 day and having to shell out $1000+ for a 5070/9070 equivalent in the near future once they jack up the prices. In this age of PC price uncertainty, I mainly wanna hoard hardware and have spare parts. I already bought tons of SSDs and HDDS late last year in anticipation of price hikes and im glad I did.>>109386138Damn are Nvidia cards really that inconsistent? I bought a 5070 TI MSI Gaming Trio on black Friday for cheap just to hoard it, but its still sitting new in plastic. Lowkey thinking of selling it and using the funds towards a 5080 but doubt its worth the hassle.
>>109386138>''not worth it but if you get them cheap and use headphones they are okay cards''What? My Sapphire Pulse 9070XT is whisper quiet even under full load.
>>109386257i was talking about Swift and Quicksilver the two loud as fuck black sheeps of 9070xts
What happened to intel’s rumored 48gb GOYs?
>>109386370>GOYs*GPUs
>>109386370Freudian slip I hope....
>>109386370They're too busy figuring out how to insert their CPUs in drones. A match made in heaven since it all ends in fire anyway.
Do SATA SSDs have any real differences in speed like NVMes do between generations and sometimes the super fast ones vs. regular speed, or are they all pretty much capped by the 6Gb/s cable? I'm wondering if I need to think about any other factors other than size when getting one to use for video clip archive / backups.
>>109386319Forgive him, hes an AMD owner. They are brown ESLs that struggle with reading comprehension
>>109386411mainly just dram vs dramless
>>109386214>a pretty significant jump in performance from the 9060 XT to the 9070 XTStill not worth it. If you're going to benchmark, benchmark games you actually play, and you said you don't bother with AAA slop either. That 9060xt is plenty good enough, upgrade to the next generation with a wider bus and more VRAM when it comes out.>backup GPUThen I suppose you have a reason to buy, but I'd rather buy new myself for peace of mind. You'd better not be hoarding mindlessly like an idiot.
>>109386430I know. I'm full AMD too and would never live in NA or UK Better to be ESL than jewslave
>>109386438K. I guess I'd have to worry about speed if I was going for a phsyical hard drive but I think SSDs are fine for long-term storage at this point. What's the DRAM even do for it?
>>109386443I think your right.I also think I'm hoarding mindlessly like an idiot. Fucking RDNA5 better be good. I want 24gb of VRAM minimum to flex on negros.
>Kill jew>Rob him of $1000>Buy $1000 RAMworld became better place
>>109386472>What's the DRAM even do for it?speeds up data access, reduces wear where your data lives.imagine both are OS drives, you click on something on your desktop. the one with dram can process the request on its own immediately, the dramless has to interrupt the cpu to poll your system memory so its a bit slower but if your cpu/ram is already fast you wont notice it.
>>109386581SATA SSDs can't use HMB so its significantly worse
how do you prevent browser burn in on oled
>>109386624you have a 2nd lcd monitor and try to keep static elements more on itI guess you can use dark mode in chrome
>>109386624move the window around every 10 minutes instead or use fullscreen?
>>109386624don't use the computer for more than 10 minutes a day
>>109386617Whats even the point of SATAS existing apart from being cheaper
>>109386515The one thing you can never have enough of is storage, especially if you hoard what media is left that isn't pozzed or infected by nihilism. You did right on that.
>>109386617they are limited by the SATA interface anyway. the whole point of NVME is to talk over PCIE since its much faster even at the same speed it can process way more commands.
>>109386624if desktop working keep brightness below 50. turn up when you need it. autohide taskbar and icons
Surely NVME will drop in price in november. I really want a 4 TB new one before things get too retarded but a good one would be as expensive as a 9070 XT
>>109386658cheaper and can last longer unless you intentionally fuck with it. Very good for backups
>>109386659Thx. I already own 4x 26 TB drives but really tempted to buy a couple more. These prices are ASS tho. I thought I was getting ripped off paying $500
>>109386658SATA is legacy at this point like IDE. Some pre UEFI boards are anal about non SATA drives.
>>109386624Don't buy a cheap OLED? And maybe turn the brightness down from highest. You don't run your screens on the brightest setting, right? Also use a variety of wallpapers like an old school screensaver every 30 seconds.
>>109386680I'll probably get 2TB for Bazzite and Gaming. then look in the future if i need more if i just buy cheap SATAs or someshit. This is the Grim Dark future.
>>109386680Not going to happen. The material logistics bottleneck as well as the "demand" from data centers is going to keep prices up for a long time. Valve was the canary in the coal mine when they raised steam deck prices. Chinese won't be saviors since they'll keep their own hardware and learned from what happened with japan vs usa in regards to dumping cheap goods.
>>109386624dont all oleds these days do pixel shift? its almost hard to not notice it.
>>109386705Not really that far into legacy, no. SATA is still useful as a mass storage base you can easily use a usb adapter on. There are anons that even ran their linux distro and played games on it all via USB 3.0+.
>>109386658semi external drives to archive stuff, or make it your mutimedia hub (music, animu,etc)external HDD for long term archival,
>>109386741Japan announced that they will build it's own cpu and stuff factories
>>109386791So they're going back to their pre-bubble days? Fat chance it's going to happen anytime soon, won't be until the 2030s you see something substantial.
>>109386774IIRC SteamOS doesn't let you install to a SATA drive. It detects the first NVME and goes there.
>>109386812of course, but they are moving at least,/pol/shit aside, they are showing signs of going full nationalizing their economy, same with SEA, Asia is general might go back to be semi-isolated from the west, except Korea
Which one for 9800X3D?
>>109386825>SteamOSAnon didn't use steamOS to make his on-the-go OS, it was Nobara.
>>109386911TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta
>>109386911Patriot Viper
>>109386924>TEAMGROUP>GROUPSounds like pajeetry to me. Avoid.
>>109386911Corsair or G. Skill, both are the superior choices
>>109387092>Corsairget chine rammed lol
>>109386911>>109386924>>109386963>>109386966>>109387092https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/Wyy8TW/patriot-viper-elite-5-ultra-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl28-memory-veur532g6028k
>>109387162see if you can get non rgb
>>109387361these things use a proprietary formfactor like dell good luck finding a psu that fits. it was already a pain in the ass just to put another ram stick inside.
>>109387331https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/9yy8TW/patriot-viper-elite-5-ultra-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl28-memory-veu532g6028k
>>109387382
hmmmm. i cant help but notice the lack of a blackwell 6000 and a 9950x3d2 in the OP.
>>109387681blackwell = black screens
Motherboard: ASRock X870E Nova CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9900X3D GPU: RTX 5080 RAM: 96 GB Power Supply: 1000wPrimary Storage: 1TB NVMe SSDAny suggestions? Feedback? Thoughts? I know I could go for more storage, but I have a NAS with 20TB of storage as well that I'm hardly using -- so it's not like I need more.
>paying $300 more for 3 fpsjej
14600k it is good for simulation games? i'm trapped in ddr4 platform bc ram crisis and i'm a thirdie
what are your PC temps?
>>109387908Don’t care chud, I bought it for DLSS quality and AI upscalingI WILL NEVER SUPPORT AMD!! THEY’RE IN BED WITH THE TRIMP ADMIN!!! FUCK AMD AND FUCK REPUBLICANS
>>109387931they would say that but nvidia dummy. nvidia is the chud gpu
>>109387908even if they were free it would be a worse value proposition
>>109387968love that nigga jensen
>>109387979>he uses upscaling
help i want to run my grand strategy paradox games with good performance in ddr4
>>1093880095800X3D
>>109387968>give him gold >kiss his ass>still fucks you over with the Chinese marketHas it worked out for any of the CEOs that bent the knee? I mean the Saudis gave him a plane and millions to his daughter/son in law and he still fucked them with the Iran war
>>109388039old paradox games don't use L3 cache
>>109388003most people dowelcome to reality
>>109388155>spends $1000+ to use upscalingthe absolute state
>>109383648What's your F-List profile?
>>109387916name one and i'll try it on my 14700K(assuming it has a built-in benchmark or replay system or something)
>>109387916>ddr4Why not just get the 14900k?
>>109388050>nvidia profits through the roof in exchange for billions more investment in the us and ai control>qatar gave him a plane thanking him for his favor in deals and a center seat in leading a new middle east. qatar were a shiite muslim ally of iran prior to trump. gulf states will profit and gain all the power after islamic iran is gone.>joe bidens son earned 300k per month on the board of a ukrainian gas company as the west overthrew the government and installed their jew puppet leader to bomb eastern ukraine and provoke war with russia nice reddit facts tranny
>>109388184Victoria 2 with GFM mod, it doesn't have benchmark lol, it tooks 13 sec per month on my 8600k and the game duration is 100 years lol https://github.com/Historical-Expansion-Mod/Greater-Flavor-Mod
>>109388216Nvidia profits hace nothing to do with he current government, they wanted them to relax export restrictions to China so they could double their profits but instead the government restricted them even more and now wants them to install a gps and Killswitch on their AI GPUs. Qatar, and all the other middle east nations are getting fucked by the retarded war with Iran since a lot of missiles have damaged their pipelines or their desalination plants they rely on, all to keep Israel happy.>muh Joe BidenHe's old and retired get over it already, are you gonna mention Obama next to deflect
UWU
>>109388282jensen's happy, gulf states are happy standing with trump and hate iran and trannies are seething with selective made up facts
>>109388327Based figurine enjoyer
>>109388050Askhually, the Saudi’s had been pushing him to finish off the Iranians once and for all, but yrump seems reluctant to do so. My guess is Vance and all the other grifters in his sphere are advising him against that
>>109388366Why, if the Iranians are gone then you have to deal with the Israelis on your doorstep. At least the Iranians don't have the capability to actually cause damage to the Saudis.
>>109387849> 9900X3DWhy? Why? Why?
>>109387849>Any suggestions?yeah, upgrade my pc
>>109387849Either get a 9950x for productivity or 9800x3d for gaming the 12 core ryzen 9’s are not good
>>109387849You need a 9950X3D2 and a Blackwell 6000
>>109387919right now 36c mobo/ram, 48c cpu.
>>10938791980°c just booting up, I need to repaste
>>109387919
>>109388801this to honestly desu
>>109385167>Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.is this true? I found an asrock AM5 motherboard for a good price
2024>friend convinces me to upgrade my shitty 1080p LCD monitor to a nice 1440p OLED>increased resolution causes GPU slowdown (though still mostly playable), also coming to the realisation that my Intelaviv trash CPU is ridiculously bottlenecked in some cases, should've bought AMD>decide to defer expensive GPU upgrade and look into CPU-only upgrade, but realise that it'd have to be an entire CPU+RAM+motherboard combo because socket differences, still pretty pricey2025>procrastinated on upgrade for long enough, decide to finally go for it>notice RAM prices are starting to skyrocket, put it off hoping they'll come down again2026>RAM prices STILL haven't come down, at this point i'm just refusing to goy up €1000 for 64GB purely out of principle>GPU is starting to show its age in newer titles, sub-30FPS, occasionally actually having to enable fake resolution to get playable framerates (i had previously refused to use SlopLSS out of principle even if it meant ~30FPS)>GPU prices also ridiculously highI just wanted to say that I'm mad and that nothing has made me wish for someone's slow, horrible, untimely death more than seeing AIjeets along with Sam Altman and whoever else cockblock me out of a PC upgrade.
>>109385167funny this is posted because i noticed my gpu fan isnt being registered and is there anything I can do to fix this? im 80% sure its actually spinning because of the temps but that 20% equates to the lazyness of me unscrewing the window and sticking my hand to check
>>109389461The 9070xt haven't gone up in pricing yetNow's your last chance to get one before they're marked up >10%Get am4 and 5800x3d too. Ddr4 still has life in it because of 3d vcache
>>109389439Yes, it's unfortunately true.ASRock boards seem to have a higher rate of reported Ryzen CPU failures compared to other AIBs'.X870E Nova's discounted to $230 in the US; it's great value spec-wise, but you have to accept the higher risk.I think ASRock trusted AMD's reference specs too much compared to other AIBs.
>>109389496Switch to HWInfo64, it might have better support for your video card model.Intel, AMD, and AIBs send early test samples to the HWInfo developer.
>>109389461You deserve the bad things that happen to you.
>the Taiwanese fail at giving me PCIe slots>the Chinese make this shitTime for that AI GF
>>109389510its weird how asus owns asrock but asus has none of these blowing up issues
>>109389546Asus and Asrock engineering is clearly different.Owning shares doesn't mean shit
>>109387908>nativeROFL
>>109389546Asus' motherboard engineering team is in its own leagueNot even MSI or gigabyte can match them in that area
>>109389546Asus has more cases of fried AM5 CPUs than MSI and Gigabyte combined. Not that much as Asrock, but still some.
>>109389546They're a legally separated business atm, ASUS is Pegatron/ASRock's largest shareholder.ASUS spun off Pegatron/ASRock to keep lower margin business (OEM & manufacturing) out of ASUS' books.The fact that AMD is immediately sending out 9950X3D replacements leads me to believe their hands aren't completely clean.
>>109389581they also have 70%+ of diy board sales marketshare
>>109389581A significant number of enthusiasts/hardware OCers default to ASUS ROG boards because of their Silicon Prediction (SP) algorithm (+ some hardware & sensor features).These are the kind of people who are willing push voltages near/over the edge even if it means they'll need to buy another CPU.There's 139 forum pages worth of discussion in the Overclock.net's X870E Apex thread, the next most popular X870E thread is the ROG Hero.https://www.overclock.net/forums/amd-motherboards.11/
7800/9800 X3D cpus are fucking garbage for anything that isn't gayming and there are no good games that demand those anyway. Waste of money.
>ancient puter (2600X/1070)>install Fedora>it runs like shit>"fedora is supposed to run like shit, get over it"would a 5500 help or does it really supposed to be this way
I wonder if it's still a good idea to get an Intel GPU just for the AV1 codec recording. I'm on an AMD CPU and apparently AV1 is preferred over H.264/HEVC for quality.
>>109389813If you're in the US, the $75 cost is worth trying out.https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-ryzen5-5500What is the speed of your memory kit? 3200 MT/s with DOCP/XMP enabled would be a good balance between performance & memory controller stability.
>>109389813im on fedora on a even more ancient toaster, runs fine, except image viewer for soem reason
>>109389813Ryzen 5500 performs in the range of a 3600 btw, not that big of an upgrade from a 2600X.https://www.techspot.com/review/2494-amd-ryzen-5500/https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-3600/
>>1093898752x8 @ 2133, DD4. never got around to buying more, until it was too late>>109389900 can't tell if there's something wrong with my hw, then. from what i can tell, "supposed to run like shit" is like 5-10% slower than ubuntu, but i'm at 2-3x slower
>>109389920I don't think it's a CPU issue if you're noticing 2~3x slower performance.
gonna build thisfrom what i've seen online it seems capable enough to run the games i want to play on the highest settings for the most part. happy to tweak things to high or even medium idc
>Nvidia partners raising prices in China>AMD already announced price increases for their GPUs Don't wait, buy now.
Have ABS prebuilts gone to shit recently or something. Bought one that immediately started crashing and overheating, and have been seeing a lot of other stuff like that from them. I know it's not building but fuck you I just wanted to know if anybody knew.
fuck it buying an imac in 10 years when they have the 40" ultrawide imac that can simulate realities. true minimalism. all in one pcs are based.
>>1093900325070 ti is already so fucking much, FUCK
>>109390136you wont like to hear this but you dont need it. prices are at an all time high for everything you shouldnt be buying shit.
>>109390141They're just gonna get worse, so people who need a GPU/RAM/SSD should stop waiting and buy now.
>>109390141My PC turns 10 this August so I do need it. I'd save a lot by going 9070 XT instead but I don't know if I want to put up with AMD
>>109390158amd is shit but so is intel and nvidia. id go with amd.
>https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/msi-and-colorful-raise-nvidia-rtx-50-series-prices-in-china-by-up-to-59-percent-across-the-entire-lineup-change-in-distributer-pricing-suggests-gpu-price-hikes-are-on-the-wayTLDR: prices are increasing around 20% for all GPUs across all 3 manufacturers Nvidia, AMD, and Intel.
Is there still a demand for the rx580g? I plan to build a (admittedly lower-to-mid) pc to sell. It’ll be paired with a Ryzen 5500x, and 32gb ddr4 ram, with a 1tb ssdWould anyone even buy a rig like this?
>>109390158Anything over $200 and I'd go AMD over Nvidia, not buying a 5070ti for $1k when I can get a 9070xt for $800
>RAM>GPU>SSD>HDDWhat's the next thing that will skyrocket in price?
>>109390215CPUs, AI companies just realized you need CPUs to accelerate ai models even further, it's why Nvidia is now releasing CPUs.
does a bad gpu give cpu/dram fail error?
>>109390215your mom's pusy
>>109390271make sure your monitor is plugged in
>>109390177>9070XTs are going to be more expensive than 5080s were last year.Brutal.
>>109390317Look at the price of the 5060ti 16gb, now that's brutal.
>>109390303it is
>>109390317Before the prices increases I had bought a 9070xt, a 5060ti and an Intel A770.So even if for some reason one of them fails I have something to fall back on. Sometimes it pays off being a coonsumer
>>109390378my backup is a 760tia-at least I can play retro and read VNs on it
>>109389505>and 5800x3dthey're more expensive than 9800x3Ds in the secondhand market where I live lol
>>109388327cute feiris nyan
>>109385220>>109386130The 5080 is really only worth it if you can get it at MSRP. It also overclocks like a shot out of a gun with 15% uplift.
>>109385167Is a GPU bracket needed even with my reinforced 9070 XT red devil? The bracket's too tall for my case.
>Now have all three colors of gpu and both colors of processorNow what?
>>109390402They're way overpriced locally for me too but Amazon and newegg has them for $370-400 usd
>>109390654Now you gotta collect every single GPU released by amd, Nvidia and Intel to complete your collection (it never ends)
>>109390402ddr4 is less annoying...
>>109390658I can get a 7800x3d for $250 so that's still too expensive, might as well use the extra $100 to buy DDR5 RAM. There's just no way to save money in the current market.
>>109390654You have matrox, 3dfx?
>>109389813>would a 5500 helpno it would not. an amd gpu would help. i don't even know if fedora supports 10 series anymore. you are probably using the nouveau community driver on that 1070 and it looks and runs like ass.>>109389920fedora should be faster than noobuntu. are you running kde or gnome?
>>109388327You are going to melt the figure's base.
>>109390505I have never actually heard of anyone's GPU breaking from sag.However, I would not want to be the first to find out.
>>109389439think about the reason why you found it at a "good price"
7600X - 7800XT still going strong, I will never ever upgrade.
>>109390904It's not the GPU it's the socket that gets fucked.
https://x.com/GeForce_JacobF/status/2081868831153353005NVIDIA DLSS AI GODS WONMSAA FAGS LOST
>>109390904>>109390994You guys missed the dozens of 4080, 4090 and 5090 accidents where the pcb near the pcie connector got cracked and made those GPUs inoperable?
>>109391027Doesn't the 5090 have a modular pcie connector so that kind of issue is fixable?
>>109391039Most 5090s aren't FEs and FEs that fail this way tend to get the proprietary pcie connector's socket's pins bent for which there are no spare parts available to pin
>>109391054to fix it*
>>109391018thanks NVIDIA, now i'm not even allowed to use MSAA in old games
What makes resolution scaling AI? Does it learn something or it's just cool to say AI to everything?
Ryzen 5 5600xB550M16GB DDR4500gb M2 ssd RX 9060 XTCooler master Q300Lthe most popular budget build right now.
>>109385659>>109385758>>109385768>>109385827Is OP still alive. Did he get the GPU?
>>109391380damn that's pretty much identical to the budget build from 2020. PC as a gaming machine for brainlets with too much money and no common sense.
>>109391380amd sure was goofy ending initial 5800x3d production run earlythere was the cut down 5700x3d for <200€ for a time, but now due to amd they use the medioce non x3d ones
>>109391446>damn that's pretty much identical to the budget build from 2020i literally build this build earlier this year. it's lit.
>>109391483yeah and I built a functional equivalent in late 2019 for less money. PC as a gaming platform is mentally retarded. We're not even gonna get GTA 6 and our systems cost 4x what a playstation 5 does
>>109388003what are modern game engines...>>109388009ddr4 peaked with 13900 14900k>>109389461only way to save this is to sell your monitor buy a 5090 prebuilt and a oled tvwithout those combos you will never reach salvation unfortunately>>109389864bitrate tho>>1093901365070ti's were free for 5090 users that bought during the dip>>109391380shilling people into buying slow ass 5600s on am4 is insanedo you really cope that much about intel
>>109391488>BASEDINKLMAO
>>109391487>PC as a gaming platform is mentally retarded.that's an exaggeration. it's a pretty functional PC. the GPU is not even high end enough to claim it compromises the build as a multi purpose machine. >>109391488>do you really cope that much about intelunironically i didn't look into intel's offerings for a single second. im a zoomer. we don't do intel.
Any advices for my build? Finally want to get something new instead of my old laptophttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/fzxcMF
>starting to get daily BSODs in this economyit's so over, I thought I could coast by on this PC until 2028 at least
>>109391748It might not be that bad, anon.It might be your motherboard. Maybe your PSU!There's a chance!
>>109391748Well its not that special Ram tends to have serious warranties then mobos, cpus etc aren't particularly expensive
>>109391748You can start debugging by turning XMP off, as its technically an overclock.
>>109391741I personally went for a Peerless Assassin 140. The price delta is like the price of a sandwich, so I might as well get a bigger fan.
>Can't buy MasterFrame 400 Mesh in my country
>>109391748Deserved if you run EXPO/XMP>>109391783>RAM warranty>you don't get replacements and just get what you paid for it
With the I think wendel popularized idea that ddr5 needs active cooling for longevity did anyone here buy a specific ram cooler you can snap onto the mobo?
>>1093917419800X3D is just a few bucks more for better 1%lows, definitely tempting imo
>>109391920The Asus glacial came with a fan but genius positioning made it useless the second you installed a GPU. I removed on my Corsair Dominators the LED strip and replaced it with the heatsink you can buy separately but I haven't checked if it makes any difference in terms of temperature.
>>109391741Honest questionWhy not have 9060XT for cheaper or even 9070xt for 16gb?
>>109391783those two are the ones I'm sure aren't at faultit's probably just RAM but at times I feel my GPU didn't take being OC'd for a while a few months ago very welleven then if I were to upgrade I feel like I'd want to replace everything so I just hope it settles down with a few driver updatesI'll run memtest in a bit if I can be arsed to
CAN YOU RELEASE THE FUCKING PARTS SO I CAN GIVE YOU MONEY AND YOU LET ME CONSUME PRODUCT!!!WHY IS IT SO HARD?!https://www.amazon.sg/GIGABYTE-B850M-AORUS-STEALTH-Motherboard/dp/B0H5M7ZHVP
>>109391920You didn't buy the courseTop AIO air as intake to cool ramnext time donate and sub and join the discordThis is if you intend to oc and push ram ocs not some basic dog shit
>>109391970MUH RAYTRACINGMUH AI
>>109392035>expecting to get anything from amazontop kek
>>109391748what platform doe? i ask because i havent seen a bsod since i moved to am5 and i am 100% sure both my memory and cpu were unstable enough to bring the system down at some point; it just crashed in different ways.
>>109392083the mobo isnt ''released'' yet and it was supposed to have global release at June and we have not heard any of it. If you read the link it's literally amazon.singapore only place selling it currently
>XMP / D.O.C.P. is... le badWhat happened?
>>109392109sometimes sticks degrade
>>109391923Tempting, but i'm already past my budget. Considered to take cheaper ssd instead, but not sure if worth it>>109391970Had pretty bad experience with amd cards before and dlss looks like worth extra money. But I could be goyim on that oneFrom what i read 12gb doesn't seems to bottleneck. But 9060 way cheaper and very tempting to take with cpu anon suggested too
This website is full of Apple jits now you can tell by the IMG underscore file names
>>109392123Yet you're buying AMD CPU which has more problems than any Nvidia or AMD GPU good going tars
>>109392123DLSS is not worth the extra money. Get either 9060XT and save money or upgrade to 9070XT and get 16GB more (you can 4k)Also if you are going for 9800X3D get 9070XT.
>>109392109they like easy things. setting memory speed and timings was a bad thing until it became easy in the form of xmp. setting tertiary timings will become good when amd's expo+ whatever gets to be more mainstream making it easy but they wont go further than the one setting of course. now is a little different because xmp is bad again because nobody can afford better than really bad xmp bins so you would have to set them yourself which is hard.the cope is phantom degradation that will never be observed ever but, you know, what if i guess.
>>109392122How so? Unstable settings? Any specific brand that degrades more? I have EXPO enabled on my machine.
>>109392156I see, I see!
>>109392109mobos always had a history of bad cpu settings when you enable that with way too high volts frying shit consdtantly for years>>109392122how can it be sticks its cpus degrading due to mobo makers
>>109392235Thank god I limit TDP on every CPU I have to 65W.
>>109392109Overclocking memory has never been that great of an idea, unless you're trying to get competitive benchmark results on OC leaderboards. You're basically just risking instability for a performance upgrade that rarely shows up outside of benchmarks. If you're gonna risk instability anyway, you might as well do your memory clocks and timings manually. That way you can fine tune it to perform better than stock even without increasing voltages at all which in turn reduces the risk of stability issues later on.>>109392264It's not the TDP, you can have 200W TDP and never have any degradation if your voltages are low and the chip is big enough not to cook at 100C from that. Degradation in ICs is caused by higher than normal voltages.
I'm tired of ram prices
Imagine I want to make a NAS box to attach to my home network for the purposes of streaming my ripped Blu-rays/4Ks via Plex. What do I need? Is it as simple as buying a bunch of HDDs and mounting them in an enclosure, then connecting it to a switch? I've built PCs but never a NAS. Any tips?
>>109390215i'm hoping computer cases with window.tired of all these faggy setups.
>>109391748just watt limit your shit.you're not going to notice 5% less fps, unless you look at the number.
>>109392301So if I buy a 6000MT/s ram and turn on EXPO, that counts as an overclock? What speed should I aim for then?
https://store.coolermaster.eu/products/masterframe-400-mesh?variant=57143073505663r8
>>109392396Nigga. You bought the RAMs and did not even turn EXPOs on day one??? Please tell me you bought RTX 5080 too
>Just randomly ask AI if RTX 5080 DLSS is worth the fuss>Yeah man the AI will recommend RTX 5080 anyway because of AI-market jews>Turns out AI just outright says RTX 5080 is shitTOP KEK!!! Even the AI disses the AI-GPU. You really need to be retarded to buy it.
>>109392396Yes that would be considered a memory overclock and I don't know. JEDEC profiles are the non-OC profiles for RAM but my memory modules for example do not have a JEDEC profile for anything above 4800 MT/s and that's dumb since you can easily run 5600MT/s on AM5 using (near?) stock voltages. I had to manually set up my RAM to run 5600MT/s with timings and all to avoid the nasty EXPO profiles.There was a 5600MT/s EXPO profile which wasn't too bad, but it was still unusually high voltages for some things. Like why do I need my memory voltage to be more than 1.2V?
>>109392152Found 9070xt for pretty close price price as 5070. Definitely better choice. Thanks anon
>>109392457which 9070XT? If it is anything but XFX Swift / Quicksilver you're good to go. Those two cards have 47db fans. Other 9070XTs have 29-35db fans.
>>109392412Of course I have it turned on, that's why I bought it, but now reading about degradation it made me confus.
>>109385167>4GB in 20+26The absolute state of Waitfags
>>109392479https://pcpartpicker.com/product/h7RnTW/gigabyte-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16-gb-video-card-gv-r9070xtgaming-oc-16gdI'm good, right?
>>109392539lmao it's perfect for fornite 1024x768 400+ fps
>>109392540Yees it good. Medium sound but good clocks and thermals. This should be good PSU for it https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zF4Zxr/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a850gl-pcie5Check PSU prices though.
>>109387849>RAM: 96 GBENJOY YOUR SLOW PC!
>>109387849yeah don't buy assrock it kills 9000 series processors
>>109392093AM5, it was a bit funky when setting it up initially but I've had it for 3+ years at this pointI've just let chkdsk etc. go to work a bit for now and will wait to see if that did anythinghadn't really changed anything recently but it became a bit more unstable, I feel like it must have been some fucked update to something if it wasn't my bro bumping into my PC which I do not think happened>>109392365it's not happening under load (or rather that's not what's causing it)either way I hope the little bit of disk repairing was enough though I seriously doubt it
as soon as hdmi 2.1 gets merged to mainstream linux builds I am switching off Windows for good
>>109392540>>109392564https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dbCZxr/msi-mag-a750gl-pcie5-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a750gl-pcie5
>>109392630*sad nutella noises*
>>109391443Sadly I think he was killed in the transaction. Never buy used GPUs kids.
>>109392124>Apple jits I spent so fucking long trying to sideload my ipad that I thought this meant jit on apple
>>109392630>hdmi2.2 drops>240hz tvs come out>83" 240hz QDOLED Tvs come outonce again cuckedenjoy not being on the bleeding edge of goyslop entertainment
>>109392683hdmi 2.1 can do up to 4k 240hz
>>109392726that's assuming tvs will have dsc support to thatwhen you could be running native AOC hdmi2.2idkunrelease product
>>109392617You should restore your UEFI settings to defaults and not change anything, then observe if problems persist.
Why would TVs be 240hz? It's not like consoles are powerful enough to push more than stable 60 fps lmaoooo
why cant they have 9070xt promo for RE9
>>109392539If they wait a bit more, they can get 2 GB cards.
>>109392858Even the 5090 struggles to deliver a stable 60fps tbf
>>109392858Motion interpolation. And even if you hate motion smoothing, OLEDs actually need it since the panel is too fast for traditional TV shows/movies.
>>109392858nigga your movies and tv shows??
>>109392904my chinese cartoons don't need 240hz
>>109387979lol this is how you swallow paying $300 for making RT hit 30+ FPS looks good to me desu
>>109392888RE9 is nvidia, MHR is amd
>>109388327how good is that fan and air cooler setup
>>109392035Modern mobos are just so uninteresting to be excited about IMO
>>109393148Seems like a Pure Rock Pro 3 and a Sapphire Pulse 9070 XT.Temps should be fine under typical loads with an undervolt.
>>109393232How are : be quiet! Dark Rock Elite & Pro 5 when compared to pure rock 3, do you think Red Devil could fit in that setup
Okay im readyIf any of you in burgerland have cancer or any other big ass illness that you are paying thousands for you can come to my euro socialist country and i will get you on our cheap ass medicne plans but you must bring with you a microcenter combo or one of those "last unit display only" rigs from costco that are discounted as fuckI think thats a fair tradeHit me up
X3D saving us from the RAM apocalypse
How are we feeling about Master Cooler's V8? We all know it beat Noctua already.
>>109393292WITNESS ME
>>109392152> DLSS is not worth the extra money.Whoever can afford it has it..
>>109393248i can't wait to see how novalake bLLC will perform
>>109390505>>109390904great, another thing to worry about for a retard like me who is scared to install a gpu by himselfthe store is building the pc, but I have to install the gpu myself at home. now I'm stressed about mounting the bracket and dealing with all the screws
>>109389439CPU degradation issues are reported for all manufacturers.I run a PBOed 9950X3D in an AsRock X870E Nova WiFi for quite a while now and I have never had any issues.It's just like it was with Covid: if a risk is way under 1% it doesn't matter the fuck if you double it. So even if AsRock had two times the burn risk of Asus it wouldn't make a significant difference.
>>109392858because tvs are pc displays now a days tootvs already offer 288hz modes unc240hz native panels are coming next probably, 120hz panels pushing 165hz non natively and fucking up processing and colors due to them being shitdoubling the hz makes sense when they fiux their processing garbage and native panelsmaybedepneds how long they wanna sandbag it165hz is the standard nowgoing up>>109393248>average fps>jazz trombone musics gets louder and more intensifiedbut i already told u people whop minmax for x3d are retardedalways was
>>109391741Im late but it looks perfectly fine.Dont bite for the 9800x3d if you are already working on a budget, its literally not worth it and also boosts a concerning rate of failure. It runs a bit colder thoThe 5070 is the only controversial point (as other anons have pointed) its a fantastic card and it got an smaller price increase when compared to the 16gb vram cards which makes it more appealing.If you can find the extra 70-80 i would pick a 9070xt over it but thats it, im not picking a 9060 (xt or not) for the extra 4gb of vramIts just a solid build, it just shows that you are working within a budget, it is what it is
>>109392445Its crazy how this board changed its mind on the 5080Not a year ago every post about the 5080 would mention it wasn't worth it paying the extra 300-400 over the 5070TINow both cards are 150-200$ more expensive so i guess these 300-400 arent as much of a difference (relatively) and you see a lot of people praising the 5080
>>109393243be Quiet! coolers aren't the best @ AMD CPU cooling, their cold plate design seem optimized for Intel CPUs.I wouldn't buy the Dark Rock Elite & Pro 5 unless you want to pay the brand/design premium.Pure Rock 3 Pro is frequently discounted in the US, plus they have better fans than Thermalright or other cheaper coolers.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/be-quiet-pure-rock-pro-3-cpu-air-cooler/7.html>do you think Red Devil could fit in that setupI don't think so, Red Devil is one of the largest 9070 XT models (352mm*149mm*69mm(with bracket)).You'll want to verify clearance with anyone who has that exact case and GPU combo, do some online research.
>>109393484the thread's probably invaded by 5080 buyersit's still a shit card tbqh, 378mm2 midrange die (slight smaller than ad103) that's marketed and sold as a highend gpu
>>109393453>165hz is the standard now>uneven numberNOOOO
>>109393484Most of the 5080 hate came from YouTubers who got one for free, compared it to the unobtainable 4080 which they got for free and completely ignored the RRP of the 5080 was $200 cheaper.They also compared it to the 5070Ti and claimed it was a minor uplift, but intentionally only compared raster scores.When the 5080 dipped to MSRP (or below) last year a lot of people bought them because it's just a good card at a price people are okay with paying. Probably wouldn't recommend one with the price increases though, desu.
>>109393564on tvs*with pc use*the tvs are still natively built for 120 and cause various errors by pushing over 120thats why maybe next gen of tvs will have native 240hz panels with hdmi2.2
>>109393510I know be quiet rocks are shiti also know lian li dan a3 is too smallThat's why im going for cooler master https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/qHNcMF
>>109393715>>109393715>>109393715>>109393715>>109393715
>>109393597>unobtainable 4080 which they got for free? rtx4000 stock was excellent at launch. 4090s were even well stocked enough that everyone who wanted it day1 could get one
