Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder

>>109415840
>anime girl on the packing box
>not on the GPU itself
one fucking job, retards!

Hmmmmm. I can't help but notice the lack of a Blackwell 6000 and 9950X3D2 in the OP.

I have a 9070xt, and call me stupid but I think I’m going to get a 5080 before the prices increases
Furthermore, I’m going to get a 5070ti and 5060ti for good measure. Yeah it’s fomo but atleast I’ll have multiple cards to fall back on if things go to shit

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>>109415875
icraft would never make such an amateurish mistake
>>109415885
Hmmmmm. Usecase?

>>109415885
>MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN

>>109415840
>>109415919
poor girl missing textures on the outfit :(

>>109415919
Y no anime boy husbando card? :(

>>109415906
I am jacking off right now and plan on leaving my load in this public restroom

>>109415919
I don't do the usecase dance. I just get what I want.

>>109416262
then you're the 0.01% who's beyond usecase and should not care about value-oriented recommendations because nobody will validate your purchase

>>109416317
hold up. why are we talking about value in a tier list?

just for the record: i do not expect anybody to add it to the op i am really interested in the copes why THO.

>>109416341
it's a value-tier list, not an absolute tier list

>>109416419
i can accept that. i wont accept that makes the lack justified THOUGH.

>>109416480
you can go make your own performance pcbg /ppcbg/ and list the 9950x3d2 and blackwell 6000 pro ws as the only recommendation

>>109416485
that would be silly anonny-chan.

>>109415840
Budget: 1000usd
Location: america
I currently have a 43" 60hz 4k ips monitor and a 3090
I would like to replace it with something around that size but high refresh rate and gsync/freesync preferably
I don't mind an ultrawide as long as it's like 45" or bigger
Only thing is I have an IKEA Alex desk so the stand has to be able to work around the alex's cable drawer, so no centered stands

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it's cheaper to outsource to Indians and Malaysians to make their games in UE5 than to hire skilled programmers to make and maintain custom purpose-built game engines.

>Yibo Liu - Halo Campaign Evolved Art Director
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/yiboliu_one-down-one-more-to-go-i-had-never-shipped-activity-7460784930868875264-i1WJ
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/yiboliu_halo-campaign-evolved-launch-trailer-activity-7486463453600305152-VDsa

>>109416736
Why is this nigga so excited about forced chromatic abberation

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>buying a gaming PC

What for? UE5 slop?

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Good for the 9800x3D right? I was going for the for the asrock nova or the aorus elite but there was a lot of a bad feedback from both.

>>109416913
Its great aside from the usual flashing bios fuckery that's utter aids to deal with. Maybe look for a newer release mobo in the same range, i hear a new range is coming out for all the platforms, other anons in here would be more knowledgable.

I have that mobo, first one was DOA where i couldn't flash the bios, neither could the pc store guy. Replacement one came and i was able to, although i had to try 3 diff usb sticks first.

>>109416913
my friend works at an IT shop and they assemble PC's with AM5 CPUs all the time and that mohawk one is the one they found most reliable so they just use it en masse.
I guess it is good?

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/X4Vmxf
Is this ok?

>>109416969
That's a case meant to showcase very flashy rgb components but you chose the most plain ones and it's going to look naked without a couple of fan kits.

>>109416969
>$1070 for 5070ti
Lmao

Should I buy a used 3080-Ti (12GB) or a new 5060-Ti (8GB)?

>>109417037
RX 9070

>>109417040
That's too expensive for me

https://videocardz.com/newz/first-radeon-rx-9050-review-shows-around-30-lower-performance-than-rtx-5050-in-games

HE BUYED BOUGHTED AYYMDEAD FULL RETARD GPU

>>109417085
I mean in this case it's the system integrators who are buy boughting it. Well I guess if it's a net browsing and indieslop box then the end buyer is just getting what they can afford, it's acceptable in that niche.

>>109417055
6800XT?

>>109417135
They don't have that in the shops

>>109417085
Crazy that Doom Dark Ages gets 280fps on 5050 but less than 120 on 9050

>>109417142
Shit then the 5060ti you can oc it to match the 3080ti and you get all the latest features. The lower vram sucks but that's what DLSS is for they want you to upscale 720p to 1440p or some shit.

>>109417145
It's explained in the text
> the RTX 5050 used DLSS Multi Frame Generation at 4x or 6x in Cyberpunk 2077, Onimusha, DOOM and Assassin’s Creed Black Flag

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>>109417169
>frame generation

>>109417169
so not a like-for-like comparison then
yawn

>>109415840
Finished by i7-4970K 32GB DDr3 and 1080Ti SC2 , z87 mpower and coolermaster case build, it's got a thermalright cooler and a fractal design 650 watt PSU. 2 SSDs and and DVD RW/. Runs like a dream, 60 FPS on high defaults on cyberpunk 2077, days gone on high is in the 100s, runs lm studio fine Has win 10 rn, next is an extra 500 GB MSATA and a wifi bluetooth card (using a shit tplink wifi USB rn). Two fans in the frond, one in the rear.

Total cost, 75 bucks for the motherboard. No ARGB shit but the mpower board has lights (including a nice two digit debugging display and lit buttons and logo) and I left the leds on the 1080 on red. CPU temps are in the 30s and GPU in the 40s. Novabench buts it at 1873. I'm not even going to bother overclocking it, it's fine and lovely,

delighted with it., that was a nice build.

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>>109416810
I thought we had escaped the Brown and Bloom Era.

>>109417257
samefag 1080ti SC2 is evga 11GB, nice card. Two of the case fans were the collermasters that came in it and one is an artic, thermalright assasin king with five heat pipes, one CPU fan on its pushing air straight back through it to the rear case fan. GPU and CPU paste is artic and doing fine. Really saisfing build, i recommend doing a similar wih a 1080ti and i7-4090k holds up absolutely fine for anything you might care about. Zero practical difference between it and a DDR5 intel 14th gen with a 5060

>>109417303
>Zero practical difference between it and a DDR5 intel 14th gen with a 5060
but how am i supposed to justify my purchases

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>>109416969
>>109415840
It's actually kind of insane. This is the RAM I got after a 6000 corsair kit shit itself. (the only PC parts I've had fail where it legitimately wasn't user error were corsair).

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/ThdG3C/patriot-viper-venom-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-7200-cl34-memory-pvv532g720c34k

480 euro - 640 euros. Absolute insanity. That's a 5x - 6x increase in price. I paid roughly 100gbp on amazon. How is that even actually possible?

On that topic has anyone tried the new AMD gpu driver. I'm kind of cautious. I've had like 3 weeks with 1 timeout.

>>109417313
i dunno anon, I have a 14th gen i5 box with 16GB DDR5 and a 500 GB M2 Nvme I go for peanuts a while ago (300 bucks at at n auction witha few moniors0. I'ts brand new and I threw a 5060 in it and it has no soul. I just like 4th gen inel and 1080s, built a couple of 4970s low watt machines with 1030s and SSDs to use on my solar and water turbine power system as well. I think tech may have peaked there in reality. Have a few NAS on spinning rust too. The i7-4790 started as a use these parts build but it's perfectly fine doing LMStudio stuff with the same small models that are used on 16GB cads and I don;t really care about games ha muc but tried the ones I have for benching, like warhammer three, cyberpunk, days gone, doom 2016, battlefield one etc and it runs them all fine on high fine. It's really interesting to go back and find out that pracically we have not really moved on at all in a decade dispite numbers. You could build a similar machine just for the price of 32GB of DDR5 (spoiler, it is worth doing, yes)

>>109417313
the main difference is games at 100fps vs games at 200fps and maybe unnoticably faster token generation my llms. The thing is I really don't notice any difference with games at 200fps vs 100fps and if an LLM is generating faster than reading speed it is fine either way.
i-4790 +1080ti with 32gb 1600 and ssds is absolutely fine, usable for everything with no lags or issues I can find.

>>109417360
here
i7-4790k dunno 50-80 bucks
32 gb ddr3 1600 dunno 40 bucks
650 watt psu dunno 50 bucks
coolermaster or other case 50-70 bucks
thermalright cooler 20-30 bucks
paste 10 bucks
1080ti dunno 150-200 bucks maybe
few extra case fans 20 bucks
couple of 1tb ssds dunno 100 bucks
dvd rw 20 bucks
some sata cables 10 bucks
z87 motherboard dunno 50-100 bucks

so 550-
500-800 or so depending on what you have lying around and how cheap you find stuff, yeah at 500 or so less than the cost of just the 32GB of DDR5

pcbg will now hate me for not setting money on fire for nothing I'll get my coat and leave, being honest like this upsets people probably why I don't have a ton of frens

>>109417257
should have gone 5960x desu
old 8-core cpus like that are goats

>>109417160
Thanks, I probably won't be getting a used card after all

>tfw DeepCool CPU cooler
burgerclaps can't even legally buy these.

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>>109417523
Maybe but I just had the parts dude, just needed the board and I had a couple of new coolernaster cases lying around

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>>109417485
I know it will run almost pretty much anything you want. But isn't it crazy that a CPU from 12 years ago can still play games and function at all. It's like expecting a 2002 computer to be able to do 2014 things. Which just... Doesn't work. The first x64 CPU wasn't even released.

Just goes to show how shit has stagnated. Up until a few years ago I built an aliexpress X99 with a xeon E5 2630v3 and played games for about a year at 2.40Ghz hahahahahaha.

>>109417169
>6x frame generation
I hope you nogs like the input latency being shoved into your rectum during gameplay.

>>109417543
yeah that's it dude you get it, and lmstudio is fine basically equal to an i5-14000 and 16gb ddr5 and a 5060 maybe better even, have to bench them on the same models sometime the last decade is just a feverdream tech wise when it comes down to practical use. Honesly I mostly play old rts on win xp and win 7 builds but it runs all the games anyone sane might care about like cyberpunk on high just fine too. Dunno man strange times we are living in. In the end the only think left was the marketing bods fake numbers and hype

>>109417543
the i7-4090k is 4 base and 4.4 single thread probably could oc it to 4,6 but given it's already fine and not even maxing out on anything why bother? Anyhow I'm saying bald truth having just had these two machines on and comparing them, literally no point in getting a i5 14400 ddr5 nvme and 5060 if you can get an i7-4090k 32gb SSD and a 1080ti. Both are pretty much the same or one is a bit better in some way you won't even notice without a perf overlay open, even for lmstudio gank

it's all gud, enjoy your shit either way.

>>109417568
>I mostly play old rts
Give us a list

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Day4 of no 5090 + 77" OLED

>>109417622
Oh fuck that's a lot to ask

close combat (all of them)
Sudden strike 1/2
Dune 2000
Warcraft orcs and humans
Warcraft 2
Command and conquer and ret alert
Warcraft 3 and frozen throne
Empire earth 1/2
total war shogun and mongul invasion
total war rome and alexander
total war medieval 2 and vikings
Total anhiliation kingdoms
Populous
Total anihilation
Pratoreans
Caesar 1-3
Railroad Tycoon
World in Conflick
Universe at war
starcraft
warhammer mark of chaos
dune emperor of dune
Age of empires 1/2/mythology
stronghold 1/2
sim city 2000
warhammer 40000 and dawn of war
civilisation 1-4
pharoh
star wars universe at war
and more
I have them all on physical media and they all are played on metal win 7 and XP builds because it just works. I [picked up a moutain of pre steam DVD case games for cents a pice, for a while they weree everywhere for nothing so I stocked up with all the stuff I like. I have a steam account sinve half life forced me tol and it's got I dunno a hundred games I picked up on it over the last 20 years like battlefiel 1, cyberpunkm doom 2016, days gone etc etc but since I have about 1000 360 and ps1 and ps1 games on physical covering most of the 2010s FPS stuff and that I don't use it much. PC gaming changed a lot when it went FPS and 3rd person view spastic. I hate multiplater games unless the are LAN

>>109417772
>Day 518 of owning a 5090 but no 77" oled

>>109417772
Perfectly happy with a 50 inch UHD TV desu for consoles and PC stuff big screen. I find more than 50 inch screen annoying. They are like VR, seems like it would be cool, but it is not so.

>>109417543
whats really crazy is reading stuff like this coming from a 4790k to a 7800x3d 2 years ago and being baffled by the attempt at gaslighting.

>>109417801
whatever dude enjoy your extra 100 fps or whatever it makes fuck all difference to me and unless you have a 32gb or 24gb nvidia gpu you are not going to be running bigger models either

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>>109417785
>but no 77" oled
you are playing at 50% potential, or arguably 33%

>>109417790
no decent tv comes at 50" so you gotta upgrade
>I find more than 50 inch screen annoying
entirely your distance to display thouigh

>>109417801
mayube you are one of these people who measures performance by how many pointless taskbar icons you have bottom left and cum when you add something extra to startup reg keys , I dunno each to their own for me there is no real difference from someting at 60 or 100 fps+ at high and something at 200 tell me something else you do with it that I should care about for practical performance that's not trying to use overlay stats on steam gayming that make zero real difference to the games as a bench. I'm listening

>>109417813
ok fine. my updoot path looks like this.
4790k and r9 290
i was playing satifsaftory at the time and couldnt even play native 1440p at reasonable framerates anymore.
to a 6800xt
a big uplift in framerate but now, that i was being limited hard by the platform the frametimes and hitching while loading got really REALLY bad.
to a 7800x3d
i stopped playing games in general about here and started a mid life crisis.
to a blackwell 6000
to a 9950x3d2
i run gemma 4 31b and anima. sometimes i play project zomboid or kenshi lol.

>>109417813
>>109417840
>gaslighting intensifies

>>109417819
>entirely your distance to display thouigh
yeah probably just a personal thing to do with eyes or something but my blondy felt the same way about the 68 inch we had and we got rid of it and gave it away

>>109417848
oh I see you're just being a faggot in your emperors new clothes, I have a modetrn ddr5 machine it's not practically better in any way stop huffing your own farts cos you bought something, it's not a superpower

>>109417257
that looks comfy. I guess it uses a bunch more power than a modern build. I've been looking at building something with a i7-2600, it should be vaguely around the level of 10 gen i3 or something.

>>109417861
On that you may be right but the low power builds I have done are i7490s with 1030s and 32GB DDR3 although I do find the i7-14700T interesting and might build a box for one someday. Not sure if they suffer from voltage aids used. Probably do.

>>109417848
you're the one who can't answer the question dude

>>109417840
>0 tell me something else you do with it that I should care about for practical performance that's not trying to use overlay stats on steam gayming that make zero real difference to the games as a bench. I'm listening

>>109417897
i tolded you up there. satisfactory hitched like crazy while loading (traveling by train if you want specifics) and i run gemma4 31b and anima now.

>>109417842
yet you missed the 1080ti sauce it is a vital ingredient.

>>109417914
nope you are just an arsehole m8 and spurting shit and money like a methhead at 2am and gaining fuck all.

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>>109417021
It's gone crazy I dunno how HUB said it's prices are still good

>>109417842
>4790k and r9 290
>i was playing satifsaftory at the time and couldnt even play native 1440p at reasonable framerates anymore.
a 1090ti would have changed that o well, I guess you are new to this stuff or something
>>109417842
>mid life crisis.
fair enough probably should have done the car thing instead

>>109417944
>a 1080ti would have changed that o well, I guess you are new to this stuff or something

1080ti>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> r9 290

>>109417842
>blackwell 6000
>>109417842
>i run gemma 4 31b

ok keewl what do you do with it? I want to know what I'm missing out on here, I have guttenberg and wikipedia on zom and 10,000 text short stories ingested and vectored along with whisper and piper and I walk around with a bluetooth headphones talking to mine, mainloy I get it to read fiction, like house on the borderlands written the the style of egar rice burroughs

what do you do with it I care about and pls don't say pedo anime

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>>109417934
Glad I builded my mini itx two months ago. The 5070ti I bought is now 200+€ more expensive.

>>109417968
yeah its just pedo anime.
ummmm i ran sentient sands for a bit but it didnt work out very well with large groups of npcs. like individual conversations were near enough to instant but if there were 20 people listening in it would take far too long to go through them all.
literally nothing else cool.
you still need one tho. everybody does. think of how happy Jensen would be.

>>109417849
bigger is better idk just look at any tv irl you always prefer bigger (Pause)

>>109418002
Yes, I also use my GPU to think of new and creative ways to strike jensens financial cock sadly they make now difference to the things I actually do with my computah but one day..one day jenses penis will rip though my screen at 144P 8K and everything will be fine and I'll notice a difference in cyberpunk 2077 maybe if I squint or am drunk..

>>109418017
god i can only hope...

>>109417779
>no earth 2150
faggot

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>>109415840
I'm gonna WAIT for the 6090 (69 get it? xD) to release in 2028/2029. It shall be utterly glorious. Stay patient, fellow brethren.

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it's over

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>>109418102
mfw eagerly awaiting 6-9k msrp 6090 saving up my shekels carefully
hopefully im gainfully employed when it drops.. r-right?

>>109418016
>(Pause)
Keep the nigger culture shit to the skreets, Tyrone.

>>109418194
cant be caught actin sus in pcbg sheeeet

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>amdip was caused by a messed up Nvidia driver install
Kek

>>109418245
Jewfes sends his regards

>Shitai SSD

>>109418245
>funny enough, bro5 actually also reached out to two pc tuning guys in china and found out their optimizations were full of shit.
Some things never change lol

>>109417779
I appreciate it anon. I've been playing some obscure ones, likes Rising Kingdoms, Kingdom Under Fire Gold, and Rival Realms.

>>109415946
If anyone is curious I passed out while jacking off in a public restroom while drunk. I wokeup like an hour ago.

>>109418454
>>109417779
scbw without remaster is free on bnet is kinda crazy

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>>109418478
Learn to speak english you fucking mudblood

the grifters and their low iq followers who claimed nvidia would be releasing gpus with almost zero vram are all quiet now

WHERE ARE THE 50 SUPERS JENSEN

Is difference between 7800x3d and 9600x huge while playing only trash like HOI4, Stellaris and Terra Invicta?

>>109418542
difference is huge in every game if you look at 1% lows instead of just raw fps output

>>109418494
project more zoomer

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>4k 27" dlss 4.5 performance
brutally mogs your native 1080p and 1440p dlss quality experience

>>109418559
Maybe for FPS games or moba crap but strategy games I only play choke from amount of bullshit spwans over time. Just dont want to buy cpu that I wont use up fully and is already few years old hell maybe I should just buy 7500f and wait for zen 6

>>109418630
wait because zen 6 10800x3d will actually be the true successor to the 5800x3d
7800x3d and to a lesser extent 9800x3d owners were beta testers for the am6 platform

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Asus has started to enshittify their oled care settings just like msi on newer monitors
you can no longer disable pixel shift totally
maybe soon you will be forced to auto run pixel refresh too, or maybe you already are forced to
looking at the firmware page of pg32ucdm3 they "improved" the pixel refresh shit
soon I will no longer be able to recommend oled monitors at all only TVs because they have the non retarded firmware

>>109418621
buying those esports resolutions is only defendablle if you run 500-600hz anyone else buying non 4k gotta be insane

>>109418652
My 4k 42" oled tv that I'm using as a monitor I barely notice it at all, weird how it's a major issue with the monitors.

>>109418621
I run 1080p DLSS for maximum frame rate. You cannot defeat my frame times.

>>109418621
I tried dlss in crimson desert and re9 and everything looked like smeared shit, particularly stuff like foliage and chainlink fences

Should I buy a PC now or wait for 60 series (or 50 supers) and nova lake/Zen6

>>109418783
works on my machine

>>109418795
It's not getting any cheaper and even if the next line of hardware was around the corner (it's not) they're probably going to skimp out on the memory

>>109418083
fair sry, post length and all that and cau centi, imperial glor warzone 2100, homeworld, theme park, medieval lords etc etc

>>109418465
Are you ex military or something? Actual navy seal from the sound of it.

>>109418454
here's soem obscure ones for you

panzer claws 2
nightshift
earth 2050
lost souls (not that lost souls marks colisation 2150)
world war 3
the moon project

from 'best of games strategy' from topware interactive dvd release

>>109418910
oh and 'world war III frontline command' koch media, collecting the phsyical DVDs really found me some stuff you never hear about

forgot to mention cossacks and cossacks 2 as well. I dunno I have a shelf with maybe a hundred on it. RTS and strategy was peak PC gaming in my opinion, normieization killed it. Not that I mind first and third person stuff but PC gaming was never as fun again.

why is it so hard to pick a monitor I'm going insane aaaaaaaaa

starting to to the realization that oled tvs mog oled monitors
why would you get an oled monitor with intrusive firmware over an oled tv that seems to be wayyy better for around the same price or cheaper since tvs come down a lot more during sales or right before the newer generation comes out every year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbcFjyXnrhw

>he thinks monitors are bad
oh boy. Never make the mistake of letting your tv *touch* the internet.

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>>109418703
monitor makers misinterpreted the 16hour refresh recommendation from panel manufacturers (lg/samsung) as an absolute must and implemented a forced refresh because their engineers probably had a mistranslation from korean to chinese to english or something
imagine if they had this on laptops/tvs/phones? literally no one is this retarded
I would rather use a SHIT lcd than a oled that behaves like that
literally unusable
it's genuinely horrific

>>109418795
>super
you had this performance ages ago for cheaper or same cost for 2 years now
your only option is to double down cope and wait for a 6090
the only moral move to make that keeps your dignity intact

>>109418951
Cheat sheet:
pg32ucdm3 best monitor
pg32ucwm MAYBE be a competitor to ucdm3 no real reviews yet
s99h(eu) s95h(na) best tv 55-77" (s95h/s95f eu also viable)
g6 second best tv 55-83"
c6 48" third best tv
c6 42" bonus tier last best tv

bonus tiers: C6H 77-83" (Tandems), S90D/F 55-77" (na qdoleds), S90F 65" (eu qdoled), S90H 77" (eu qdoled)
probably avoid C5/G5 for pc use (dithering)

>>109418992
>POV you have been listening to my schizoprehnic rants
the only downside is you need the space and maybe more pc related bugs like having to reboot pc/tv due to signal fuck ups and what not
also pretty much mandatory to use a 5000 series gpu or newer because of how the dsc jank works and what not and EDID bullshit if I remember right

>>109418508
low vram gpus has always been an AMD thing

Which monitor should I get?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/TCL-25-G64-Series-FHD-HDR-QD-Mini-LED-Gaming-Monitor-300Hz-Refresh-Rate-LD180-Precise-Dimming-Series-HDR600-Brightness-1ms-AMD-FreeSync-25G64/18328164441?filters=%5B%7B%22intent%22%3A%22retailer%22%2C%22values%22%3A%5B%22Walmart%22%5D%7D%5D&classType=REGULAR&athbdg=L1600&conditionCode=1&conditionCode=9&conditionGroupCode=1

https://www.walmart.com/ip/TCL-27-P2A-PRO-Series-QHD-HDR-Mini-LED-Gaming-Monitor-NEW-2026-Halo-Control-System-320Hz-Refresh-Rate-LD180-Precise-Dimming-Series-HDR600-Brightness/19606051641?filters=%5B%7B%22intent%22%3A%22retailer%22%2C%22values%22%3A%5B%22Walmart%22%5D%7D%5D&classType=REGULAR&from=/search

or

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-Nitro-31-5-inch-UHD-Gaming-Monitor-3480-x-2160-Widescreen-with-AMD-FreeSync-Premium-Technology-144Hz-XF320QK-P0bmiiphx/18379768548?conditionGroupCode=2&classType=REGULAR&from=/search

I'm sorry I didn't feel like using a link shorterner. I am leaning towards the 27 inch monitor or the 31.5 inch. but desu the 1080 monitor is not bad for the price

>>109419184
>TCL 27” P2A PRO
1440p miniled is best out of that shit bunch of monitors

>>109418992
>48"
>even 42"
No thank you

>>109419184
>Restored Acer
Ignore that one. Get the 1440p if your PC can comfortably handle that resolution.

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>>109418992
Let me know when they release a 37" model.

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>>109419219
the 48" is a tandem woled panel gives you a giant brightness and color boost
42" not much has happened
but processing updates not as much dithering and 165hz tho

>>109419227
42" isnt much larger than 32" really

>>109419270
Look at the difference in width and height.
If you need to tilt your head up/down, the screen's too large.

I would get an LG tv as a monitor but how do I know whether or not it will spy on me or install shadow malware on my pc

I wouldnt buy lg tv as a monitor since Its too big, has worse refresh rates, worse ppi, I know it spies on me and the usage experience is worse with garbage smart tv OS vs a dumb monitor which gets bright enough anyway.

>>109419379
never connect it to the internet
i've never connected my oled tv I use as a monitor to the internet and it's been great

>>109419379
>buy a smart tv
>connect it to wifi/ethernet
>surprised pikachu face that it does botnet things

>>109419379
never, EVER give it an internet connection. No matter how much it begs.

I can't go back to regular monitors at this point. I've tried it and just can't. Doesn't matter how high of a refresh rate they have. Playing games on a big screen > all else as far as immersion goes. 120hz is more than enough.

>>109419379
lg tvs allow you to firmware update through usb so theres no reason to ever connect online

>>109419405
doesn't LG do it during production to install the latest firmware before shipping it?

>>109419430
if the tv doesnt have a usb port then avoid it like the plague

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I have the perfect setup where my second screen is the TV. Most of the time I'm on the main monitor which is 32" 4k 144Hz IPS and the TV is 42" 4k 120Hz OLED which is further away. The HDMI is actually connected to the AV AMP and full 5.1.2 sound.

Most of the time the TV is just used for TV but when I'm exercising and watching music videos or playing a some games I flip over to the TV.

Best of both worlds. No babying an OLED monitor for static stuff and enjoying the beauty of one when it's appropriate.

>>109418992
lg monitors
this is why the price dropped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9uefFYe6bM

we NEED a monitor jerk each other off general

>>109419535
nothing else to talk about since amd and nvidia took a gap year and chose not to release anything

>>109419526
What retard didnt know that smart TV's are privacy nightmare? I cant imagine this impacts anyones view of tvs, lg or anything.

Installing mcafee is wholly irrelevant, since its something you actually control. You dont control the spying which has been going on for decades.

>>109419565
Watch the video, it's way worse than what you're making it out to be
It also affects their monitors, and on older 3-4 year old models too since windows suddenly started automatically installing OEM drivers based on connected hardware IDs

>>109419601
watching drama nexus? Eh

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>blazing fast 0.03ms oled display
>ruin it with x.xxms dsc delay

switch 2 likely never gonna get hacked lol. it'd be fucking hilarious if it doesn't. like yes it would only be a good thing if it did get hacked. but i love it when shit doesn't go redditors way.

>>109419535
Monitors are the only PC tech industry in a good state right now.

Best way to realize the difference between brightness of modern oled monitor and tv is to have them side by side. Had that and I can tell it is sad for monitors. Matters only for hdr, for other stuff monitors will do ok.

I built my PC like a year and a half ago. A few months ago, my computer turned off and wouldn't turn back on. After some troubleshooting I swapped the PSU for an identical new PSU, and it worked. Now I just got home and it's off and won't turn back on. I'm assuming if I change the PSU it will work, but I'm still scared. I don't think the PSU is underpowered or anything... I remember it being a pretty good one and it was fine for the PC I had. I have a 4080 super, 7800x3d, and like 32gb of ram. I don't recall the motherboard, it's some tomahawk but I know it's equal to the rest of the parts. The psu is a Corsair RM1000x atx3.1. it should definitely be good for my PC. I did the thing where you unplug, hold the button for 30 secs and try again. I heard a super tiny click sound from my PSU. Any ideas? I can run to best buy maybe to get another one today but this is now a recurring thing. Something has to be wrong.

>>109419952
Probably something shorting the motherboard like a screw or the back panel

>>109419882
oled monitors this year are like peak 1300 nits, that is more than enough.

>>109419982
It's possible. But at this point is the PSU just completely gone? I know there are like weird tests with a paper clip or something iirc? I did it with my last PSU and remember nothing worked. Like the whole PSU is just shorted out right? Best buy seems to have the same one I have so I guess I'll drop 200 dollars on it right now.

>>109415840
>*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
No it hasn’t. Why are you people retarded? You can do 1080p with an igpu

>>109420035
Yeah, sure, and you can do 4k on an igpu too. Too bad people talking about what you can and cant' do with a certain card aren't talking about using web browsers and shitposting on 4chan, or playing indie pixelshit and 30 year old games, retard.

>>109419991
theres some weird meme where they up the 1 to 10% max brightness and the 50% max brightness remains the same or slightly better than it was 5y ago

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Just finished jury rigging an Arctic P12 fan inside a Seasonic Focus GX-750 PSU.
>right after warranty ended the fan got loud as fuck with an annoying rubbing sound inside the bearing
>it's a proprietary 135mm fan to top it off
>fuck it, look the part number and order 2 of them just to be safe
>one year later the first replacement started doing the exact same thing, swap in replacement fan no. 2
>a few months later that one starts doing the exact same fucking thing
>go nuclear and pic related. Fan is now motherboard controlled and works great
When has Seasonic quality gone down a cliff this badly? This PSU is already replacing another Seasonic PSU that blew up on me a few years ago.

>>109420015
You won't know unless you test. Take the Mobo out of the case and try again without the power button

Is it possible to wrangle down the tdp of an old i9-10900x to keep its heat and power consumption under control while maintaining most of the performance? I'm talking like ~100w tdp while maintaining 80%+ stock performance (stock is 165w and benchmarks like a ryzen 5600x). Any better suggestions that have lots of pci lanes and also under about $300 used not including ram?

>>109419991
It is marketing number that is for 1% white screen. For comparison new oled tvs have 2500 nit peak for 10%. Difference is that big, go to electronics shop and see for yourself.

>>109420109
You obviously need to update to a modern cpu with better perf.
Either wait next intel platform or am5 with upcoming zen 6 cpu.
Since you waited too long it'll cost way more to upgrade.

>>109420123
and those tvs cost upwards of 5x as much

I got a rtx 3060 12gb and have been playing around with llm models and i want to play around with bigger models. I can buy one more 3060 12gb for around 200 bucks. is it a fine plan if im strapped for cash?

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>>109420059
>caring about PSU cooling
>not just running the PSU until it cooks itself to death and then just replacing the PSU
c'mon now
>>109420109
severely hard cap your clock speed to something super low. Hardcap your voltage to something low as well. Then slowly keep raising the speed and stress testing until you BSOD. That or you can set a CPU usage percent upper limit in your Windows power plan.

Personally I have an i9-9900k with hyperthreading disabled (so it's only 8 physical cores), limited to 5.0GHz all core on boost. Turning off hyperthreading actually saves quite a bit of power as well. Also makes it so the physical cores and hyper threaded cores aren't fighting for cache.

>>109420154
Yes, just make sure your PSU can support it and run layer splitting, You may have to fuck around a little bit with llama-ccp to make it work properly as some wrappers have trouble running multi-gpus properly

>>109419952
sometimes* i need to turn the actual switch on the psu off until i hear the relay reset before i can turn it back on with the power button.

>>109420151
more like 2x-3x, not saying people should buy tvs as monitors, just that state of hdr on oled monitors is sad compared to tvs

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>>109418542

>>109420220
wake me up when samsung starts making glossy qd-oleds again and I would consider buying a high end tv

I just got a mini-pc with a Ryzen 7 255 (basically an unofficial chink cutdown version of the 260). Anyway, I got to stressing it a bit and I noticed that the core voltage sometimes jumps up to almost 1.4V, isn't that stupidly high for a Zen 4 mobile chip? Hell, my desktop 5700X3D never goes above 1.2V.

>>109418652
Pixel shift is such a retarded solution, as well. It basically adds gaussian blur to the burn in that will still happen, lmao.

I have an i7-6950X and 64GB of DDR4-2400MHz. It's 4x 16GB DIMMs. My CPU is of course long since long in the tooth and not worth the power. It has been for a while but most recently, my GPU shit the bed and since I'm upgrading anyways, was looking at CPUs. Since I already have DDR4, I was sniffing around and would it be safe to say the 5800X3D 10A edition on AM4 is the best CPU using DDR4? I'd most likely be pairing it with a 9070XT because I'd like this PC to last as long as my old/current one did.

all my games seem to be working just fine on linux even though im on a 50 series gpu
goodbye windows

>>109420240
voltage isn't like wattage. All CPUs, mobile or otherwise, usually burst high like that.

>>109420261
What are "your games", though? I've been on Linux for about 3 years but there's still the occasional title that I boot into Windows to play (for performance reasons, I don't touch anticheat spyware crap).

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>>109419369
42" is at the edge of what you will be able to use at a desk distance without head tilting
if you go above this things become more questionable and need more space
>the screen's too large.
the size to screen is too small more

>>109419387
>Its too big
4 u
>has worse refresh rates
4k oleds with 165hz which is refresh rate parity exist
>worse ppi
ppi parity with 1440p oleds, new rgwb layout is better, dithering improved
>the usage experience is worse with garbage smart tv OS vs a dumb monitor
a controller is a better OSD controller than display buttons, colorcontrol/lg companion exist that automate start/shut down if you have autism and dont wana use a controller, built in speakers are better
literally is a display
>which gets bright enough anyway.
non existent hdr in comparison
(4 u) again

>I wouldnt buy lg tv as a monitor
indeed buy a samsung qdoled instead

>>109419421
way higher brightness

>>109419526
>this is why the price dropped
holy steve cope thinking hes relevant
go to bed steve

>>109419717
>x.xxms dsc delay
go to bed dsc schizo

>>109419882
I've posted pictures constantly

>Matters only for hdr
in hdr is way higher but top end tvs in sdr are pushing 500 nits full screen compared to monitors hitting 300 nits now
cmon bruh

>>109419991
>400 nits peak highlights in real scene
monitors cant even beat the LG C 42" series still its twice as bright as any oled in hdr still due to aggressive power management

>>109420151
a s90d 65" on sale is cheaper than a 32" pg32ucdm3
a 55" LG G5 on sale is cheaper than a 32" pg32ucdm3
65" is 4x as much effective screen realestate
meaning the monitor is 4x as expensive
in fact it was indeed in reverse as expensive as you said

>>109420220
tvs are cheaper than monitors by alot

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>>109420246
it's a pointless feature plus on lg oleds maybe due to tv or firmware version it added blur to the actual image so disabling it added clarity
not sure if tvs have overprovisioning of pixels or not currentlly havent checked
if they dont u need to disable to not have a cut off image

>>109419991
here's the current state of monitors (reply 2 btw)

>>109420192
Got a 750 watt psu so i should be fine. Just wanted to make sure that i did not miss something obvious. So thanks

>>109420259
It's technically the i9-14900K but for gaming it's definitely the 5800x3d

>>109420282
NTA but my friend swapped to Bazzite exclusively a while back. he plays new AAA titles and we play World of Warcraft together. He used to have a Windows partition but has long since gotten rid of it entirely.

>>109420307
I read that the 13th and 14th gen CPUs had some sort of microcode issues and are basically ticking time bombs

>>109420328
If you don't want to mess with bios and shieet choose the 5800x3d

>>109420133
I already have a modern system, this is a want not a need, I just want something decently performant and cheap with lots of lanes that isn't also a space heater. Xeon might be a better choice, but even more of a space heater.

>>109420169
What kind of draw are you seeing at the wall with that setup?

>>109420328
Yes they are, but they do be fast doe

>>109418135
6090 is going to be between 3k-4k
the market is panic buying and doesn't realize we're in a bubble

>>109420059
I had to RMA my Prime GX a few months ago because the faulty fan control circuit was causing erratic fan RPMs.
That one was manufactured in 2022, there were parts & labor shortages caused by COVID lockdowns. Product testing phases were also rushed during this time.

>>109420367
>6090 is going to be between 3k-4k
how can a 6090 be 3-4k when a 5090 right now is 6k

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Why does everyone seem to focus on the "when le bubble pops prices go down" part of the bubble popping but nobody seems to focus on the actual economic fallout that will ensue after the popping?

>>109420386
its years out at this point. we would hope things settle down at least a little by then.

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>>109420391
some men just want to see the world burn
nothing to lose baby

>>109420395
one year tops

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>>109420338
>What kind of draw are you seeing at the wall with that setup?
My PC idle power consumption is kind of all over the place but with 2x 144HZ monitors, CPU, RTX 3080 GPU, 3 SSDs (1 NVME, 2 SATA) and 8 high capacity HDDs (SATA), I idle around 150w. I have the disks set to go to sleep after 2 min of inactivity to save more.
>>109420391
I couldn't care less. Let it all come tumbling down

>>109420109
Undervolt + power limit the CPU.
Downclock the maximum turbo boost by -100 or -200 MHz. These last few hundred MHz are the more power inefficient V/F points.
Do all three, you'd probably retain more than 85% of stock performance with a 100W power limit.

>>109420386
4090s were also going for 4k before the 5090 dropped at 2-3k since Nvidia ended production of 4090s really early and caused a massive supply issue for 6 months before it got replaced

>>109420288
New 48s are 1400, 32in 4k monitors go for 800. Also brightness numbers I posted are for g6 which is more expensive. They are at not on par at refresh rates, 240 is more and 360hz 32in panel will be out soon. I dont have use case for 500nit sdr for a pc, if its 300 nits without brightness limiting it is ok by me but I have blinds and dont take my monitor outside. And saying that 4k tv has more space than 4k monitor is nonsense. There are 8m pixels, difference is only how far you are viewing them from. Btw i tried to use tv as a monitor, but despite using mount, having big desk and checking whole math about ppd, fov etc., I couldnt find the position that was comfortable for me. If you like it, good for you.

>>109420282
I mostly play jrpg slop and indie stuff like rimworld or stardew. The only online thing I play is ffxiv but that works just fine as well. I'm sure if I played more competitive online stuff it would be a different story, but since I primarily play single player stuff I haven't run into any issues.

i dont even care about buying shit anymore i really dont. i have all of this nice shit pulled up ready to order it and ive realized everything i have already suffices.

just gonna wait for technology to evolve as a whole. hopefully sam altman is right and we actually are in the singularity. i think we are, but not in the way people imagine.

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Honestly, I gotta build my credit anyway. I think I'll finance a 5090. Or a prebuilt with one in it as well as some RAM. I'll just switch stuff out of my current PC and have two at the end of it.

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time traveler here, the msrp in the us of the rtx 6090 will be 3.999$ it will appear as a steal compared to the 5090
with 25% VAT Eu taxxed in the EU the final price will be 4.999$ in comparison

I am picking up a used cyberpc

i9-10900k
3090gpu
32gb ddr4 ram
liquid cooled
1tb ssd
z590 mobo
unsure of PSU

for $1500. Looks clean
mostly getting it for the GPU, everything else is just a slight upgrade from what I have now.

>>109420478
prebuilts with 5090 currently the 5090 stands for 85% of the build
you might aswell get the rest of the pc for 1k extra, which btw the 64gb of ram in it is just 1000-1300$ alone before cpu,case,ssd,psu,cooler,fans

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QVKs8Z

rate. RAM being only 2400MHz hopefully won't drag my CPU down too much performance wise. RAM and SSDs are all being pulled from old PC. SSDs are all reporting they're >90% lifespan/health so I'm just going to keep using them even if they're older SATA SSDs or older PCIe standards.

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>>109420517
You should've bought a used 3090 Ti if you didn't need the rest of the PC.

>>109420561
I haven't purchased it yet, which is why I'm posting, thanks for the info. It does sound like a good deal though, no?

>>109420561
I have an EVGA FTW3 Ultra RTX 3080. Should I be worried?

>>109420420
Not bad for an entire setup. I'd wager the drives alone are at least 30% of the the draw by themselves before they spin down.

>>109420430
Sounds reasonable.

>>109420458
on sale the 48" c6 will prolly dip to 1000
>32in 4k monitors go for 800.
and a 42" c5 was 700 and it's even brighter
>Also brightness numbers I posted are for g6 which is more expensive.
where
>They are at not on par at refresh rates, 240 is more and 360hz 32in panel will be out soon.
i kno
>And saying that 4k tv has more space than 4k monitor is nonsense
never said such a thing
>Btw i tried to use tv as a monitor, but despite using mount, having big desk and checking whole math about ppd, fov etc., I couldnt find the position that was comfortable for me.
I almost can guarantee that anything above eye level will be annoying (tv too high type shit) kinda which ultimately leaves large screen tvs to borderline floor standing to be the comfy spot
too high screens are kinda ass already knew that
idk prolly still think tvs are more fun idk

>>109420391
Nobody cares about aislop companies and their enablers going broke.

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the ddr5 nightmare will soon be a memory past

>>109420553
I'd pay $20~60 more for the XFX Quicksilver or Mercury OC models if case clearance isn't an issue.
Pure Power 13 M 750W is the better PSU @ a similar price, but some people say the cables are a bit short and stiff.
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/
Be prepared to set up custom fan curves for those P12 Pro fans, their noise is fine at around 1000 RPM or under.

>>109420672
>all DIMM fabs roll to DDR6 production
>existing DDR5 is snatched up at a slight 5% discount from their usual crazy price by people with DDR5 systems
>nothing changes
The AI data centers and shit companies need to not just crash, but fucking crater into a flaming mess for companies to learn their lesson. All DRAM manufacturers also need to be fined heavily for colluding.

>>109420682
The quicksilver is only $20 more but it's 25mm longer. I'll consider the power supply. The case is small so cables being short/stiff ain't a big deal. The fans I'd control with FanControl software if needed. Just want air flow.

>>109420599
You should keep the card undervolted and running at under 900mV.
You want to dampen the intensity of the transient which degrade the DrMOS.
OCing is fine with an undervolt. I used to daily a 3080 12GB boosting around 1800 MHz @ 850mV.
1900 MHz boost could be stable @ 900mV given thermal & power limits aren't triggered.

>>109420706
>Heavily fined
Fine them 50% of their revenue (not profits, all revenue) since 2020 and jail everyone higher than a bottom level manager, anything less is yet another slap on the wrist as usual.

When will it get better bros? I just wanted to game/goon...

i dont even care about buying shit anymore i really dont. i have all of this nice shit pulled up ready to order it and ive realized everything i have already suffices.

just gonna wait for technology to evolve as a whole. hopefully sam altman is right and we actually are in the singularity. i think we are, but not in the way people imagine.

>be me
>used to low nit around 100 to 200
>try TCL 27R83U HDR miniLED VA
>everything just becomes ultra bright
>things outside of my center of vision fade to gray
>try HDR on pulsar IPS monitor
>everything just becomes ultra bright
>try it on a tandem WOLED with HDR 500 TrueBlack
>things become brighter but not on eye melting level
maybe the game I tried it with doesn't have a proper implementation but I don't see the point

>GPU temperature reaches 60 degrees
Oh that's actually excel-
>GPU hotspot temperature reaches 100 degrees
Just fuck my shit up senpai. Why even bullshit around with the lower number when the card is cooking up inside the case. Already ordered Thermal Grizzly PhaseSheet PTM since reddit recommended something like it and and that Honeywell thing isn't available here. Why aren't thermal pads the norm?

>>109420762
I'm running bone stock and it doesn't overheat ever. Hottest I've seen it is 74C with stock fan curve which only really turns the fans to maybe 60%.
>>109420766
exactly. They've been caught colluding more than once in the past and all it turned out to be was a slight fine and a couple dudes getting jailed for like 14 months. I think the one guy got out of jail and became CEO of one of the companies because of how much money he made them. Being fined $5 million when your company made $500 million illegally isn't a broken law, it's just a business fee. Fucking bullshit.

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No one actually believes we're getting a RTX 60XX series at this point, right? We'll start getting D shit like China, and never see a Ti or Super ever again.

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>>109420597
You should set a 280~300W power limit to the 3090 and keep it undervolted (running between 800~900mV) to reduce the intensity of their transient spikes.
You'll retain near stock performance and improve its lifespan.
The frogposter in the pic used to own a 3090 Aorus Master with overspecced power stages, it wasn't enough to prevent its death.
The coomer threw away that 3090 and replaced it with a 4090, which has a better voltage controller and a safer power delivery layout.

Its so unfair that I only started making money when PC parts became unaffordable for the average person

>>109420846
More importantly, will we forgive novidya for this when the bubble bursts and they return to focus on gaming again?

>>109420863
its okay bro we are accelerating. i dont think people realize how fast AI is actually taking off. AI is going to reduce the size of the semiconductor and transistors in all technology. everything will become extremely small, slim, and faster than ever. AI data centers will reduce the size of the data centers. reduce the required energy input for all technology across the world.

the future is now.

>>109420672
I see no reason to believe that datacenters won't find a way to apply DDR6 to themselves too and eat the supply before it even hits the consumer market.

>>109420889
aren't we near the point where transistors can't physically get much smaller?

>>109420905
they'll make them smaller bro. 2 more weeks.

>>109420905
Anything is possible when E = mc^2 + AI

>>109420517
Not great value for money as a gaming machine. A $650 5070 is going to outpreform that 3090 and a 12600k is already better than the i9. For $1500 you can still build or even find a pre-built with current gen parts that matches that level of preformance. There's no reason to ever get a 3090 outside of professional applications that require a lot of vram.

>>109420762
I fucked around with MSI afterburner just now and lazily managed to get 1950MHz clock at 0.875mV. It passed a couple passes of 3DMark's Steel Nomad stress bench. I'm on an EVGA FTW3 Ultra model. I could probably go faster or lesser mV but so long as I'm under I'll take it.

>>109421163
me and my friend used to make fun of our other friend for using msi afterburner because it sounded like shaving cream. he would genuinely get so mad over this.

>>109421110
I want the 3090 for the 24gb vram for AI projects

>>109421174
it does sound like one lmao. I used to use EVGA Precision X1 but they stopped supporting it because EVGA is out of the GPU game unfortunately.

>>109421193
I know Intel has their ARC line of GPUs with higher RAM amounts on them. B50, B60. The B50 is $430 for 16GB VRAM, B60 is $650 for 24GB.

Should I buy the Edifier MR3 for $99.97? I don't use speakers much but the discounted price is tempting.

Is a 5080, a good card for 4K gaming or will you need to buy a 5090 for that?

>>109421309
It all depends on the details. Willing to use DLSS? Frame Generation? What games are you going to play? What frame rates do you want?

>>109421303
I don't know about this specific model but the last Edifiers I had were alright for the price.

>>109420821
>be me
>try hdr on qdoled
>see the point of increased detail but it's just not bright enough to pump out an impressive image
idk

>>109420942
even when I lived in the middle of nowhere you had recyclling spots you could throw away shit like this

>>109421309
if you buy a prebuilt 5090 now you can resell it for new price after the price increases
last chance
works in my country might not in yours

>>109418102
Nice brother, I'll be buying the RDNA5 11090XTX myself.

>>109421333
>What frame rates do you want
I'm fine 40 or higher

>What games are you going to play
I play a whole bunch, but mostly open world, and action games

>Willing to use DLSS? Frame Generation?
I've never tried it in person, AI-generated frames sound strange, but if it offers a better experience and the AI is not noticeable, then sure.

>>109421343
>the year 2030
>dgpus are not sold on market anymore
>you have to buy a AI approved cpu igpu package that can connect to the cloud botnet for enhanced streaming capabilities
>upscaled 240p30fps into upscaled dlss6 8k600fps streamed to you for 99.9$ a month
>9.99$ for a token per hour of gameplay

>>109415840
Is DLSS 4.5 Ray Reconstruction launching at the beginning or end of August?

>>109416810
>riven remake
kek

>>109421370
>underground black markets of people recycling old GPUs
>adding memory modules to existing GPUs will be an offered service
>AMD Fury X with the original 4GB HBM VRAM and 16GB GDDR5X memory pulled off older scrapped GPUs to act as VRAM swap
>somehow the Nvidia Fermi lineup is still in play

Some cyberpunk shit except without all the cool stuff from a cyberpunk dystopia.

>>109421309
Maybe if you can find one for under $1,200 US.
It has a decent amount of overclocking headroom, NVIDIA left some gap for a 5080 Super on this GB203 chip.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gb203.g1073

>>109421370
We will get at least 2 more generations of hardware released because AMD/Intel/Nvidia have already spent millions on r&d and they would be stupid not to release the products.

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>Have an RTX 3080 undervolted since launch
>paranoid about it breaking on me
>no idea what I'd even get for 1440p gaming if it was to break
RTX 3070 on eBay is like $225. RTX 3060 Ti is similar. Possibly an RTX 2080Ti for $200? Here's to hoping this card lasts until this bubble pops I guess.

>>109421361
5080 is fine for those requirements, maybe wait for other people's input as well. I neglected to mention ray tracing, which can ravage any GPU. The price difference between it and the 5090 is ludicrous and probably not really worth it if any of this is what you want.
>AI-generated frames sound strange, but if it offers a better experience and the AI is not noticeable, then sure.
Upscaling looks fine these days, but the higher you go with frame generation the more input lag you get since it's tied to the actual base rate, although that only gets a problem when you go idiot-tier (4x or whatever). Honestly I'd read up on any of this before spending money, there's quite a lot of info available for beginners.

>>109421455
youd just get a 5070, duh
I mean you could afford 800$ msrp 3080 in the past so, you have had income at some point? You can afford things today?

>>109421488
>I mean you could afford 800$ msrp 3080 in the past so, you have had income at some point? You can afford things today?
The rest of my PC is old (Intel 9th gen) and putting in a 5070 just seems like a waste, but yeah I suppose. Just wouldn't feel good.

Should I buy an intel gpu or nah?

>>109421513
I got 3080 too, my attempts to increase longevity have been undervolt, using a temu gpu stand so it doesnt warp and break, and replacing the paste with a ptm pad for the chip + thermal putty for the random vram bits

>>109421529
Nah, Intel only gets brought up to shit on AMD for being too expensive or not having enough vram, same way AMD gets brought up to shit on Nvidia for being too expensive and not having enough vram.

>>109421537
The repasting with ptm is a good idea since apparently a lot of older Nvidia cards have shitty thermal paste that pumps out.

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Is it normal to have 17,000MB of standby data in your RAM?
It says I only have 738MB of RAM free.

>>109421537
I just undervolted today. I have some cooler master GPU stand back when no one else was making them so warping isn't an issue. Still using stock paste. haven't had any overheating issues, not even close, so haven't seen the need to swap. I haven't had any issues, black screens, driver crashes, artifacting, or anything like that. Just paranoid.

>>109421575
sure

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>girlfriend needs a new ssd because hers is failing
>samsung 2tb is $400 ON SALE
there's no fucking way what the fuck? crucial vulcan and WD are fine right? they're all $200 less

>>109421650
Get a Lexar, not kidding.

>>109421650
how is it failing
typically ssds go "works" to "pc doesnt wake up"

Id look at 1tb cheapo units that are good enough to carry over the memory crisis period

>>109419952
>>109420015
Went to best buy, got an rm850x, hooked it all up, and the computer is on and works fine. The issue definitely has to be with the motherboard or something. In a few months if this PSU dies again, I'll be in a better financial and time position than I am now to fully correct this.

>>109421650
Real men hunt and take what they need.
Be a man and go steal an SSD from your local best buy.

>>109421673
just insanely slow and choppy download speeds. her cpu is almost brand new so it SHOULDNT be that (and i really hope it isnt because i fucking hate replacing them). when i replaced my last failing drive my download/load speeds quadrupled

>>109416969
Replace the samsung ssd with a pcie 5 one like these: https://geizhals.de/?cat=hdssd&xf=7139_%3E%3D1.92TB~7140_%3C%3D2.048TB~7186_Toshiba%2FWD~7186_Kioxia~7186_Micron~7186_Samsung~7525_M.2+%28PCIe%29~7527_PCIe+5.0+x4~8232_ja&pagesize=30&sort=p&promode=true

>>109421655
i dont really like the chip ssds

>>109421650
Samsung has the premium name tag tax on it plus, tbf, it's Samsung. They control their own NAND, their own controller, their own firmware, their own drivers, their own software package. Something like a 2TB Samsung 9100 Pro is TLC based NAND and includes a dedicated DRAM cache. The drives you're comparing it to from Crucial, WD, or Silicon Power for instance are usually DRAM-less and using QLC based NAND. Not to mention they're often an older or slower PCIe standard.

For your use case, literally just buy the cheapest SSD. Unless your gf is doing crazy write intensive workstation kind of work, a generic PCIe 4.0 QLC no DRAM NVME SSD will be perfectly fine. I have a 2TB SATA based QLC SSD exclusively as a game installation drive.

>>109421723
Surely you did specific ssd tests

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>>109421742
haha yes of course

>>109421751
>"oh my chrome has choppy downloads"
>"lets check amazon samsung 990 pro 2tb and get it fixed"

>>109421193
not anon, but if you rented a 48gb GPU, it would cost 25 cents per hour (2x3090).
and it would cost $2000 if you ran it for an entire year.
it's well known that renting the whole GPU is very cost-ineffective, because you are not even using the full power of the GPU, unlike a service that hosts hundreds of user sessions at once with one GPU.
If you just want a provider that hosts a specific LLM, it would take a very, very long time for the cost of the GPU to pay itself off, even if we assume in 4 years 48gb GPU prices increase by 4-10x.
Because it's priced per million of tokens, a 48gb model would cost in the range of cents per million input/output tokens, but since many people use these providers for programming, they need the best of the best models, like glm / kimi which requires 500gb+ of vram for an 8bit quant (it's trained with 4tb+ of vram in fp32 format). So these models are VERY expensive, costing 4$ per million of input tokens (with a lower cost for the cache), so you can easily rack up like $100-$1000 in a month if you make hundreds of queries a day with a completely full context. But if your context is only like a few thousand tokens / you don't let agents run wild unattended, it's very cheap.

>>109421798
i just know there's a 90% chance its my cpu or drive. the drives are fucking ancient

>>109421818
>it's trained with 4tb+ of vram in fp32 format
oh nevermind, I forgot they are MoE models, so each expert can be trained with a lot less vram.

>>109421821
Sure, if its old then buy the 1tb cheap model

>>109421821
No one needs a 2tb ssd, there are other options for storage for media and whatever else that isn't your operating system

I paid 1000€ for 2x used 48GB 6000mt CL30 sticks on ebay
And it was worth it

>>109418652
More like ASUS was getting tired of retards ruining their shitty oleds and sending them back for "repair".

>>109421967
I could have bought on sale 96gb kits for half that but didnt because

>>109421974
Asus can do that on their own with the amount of bugs they have related to if pixel refresh is running or not
not a pixel shift shit
you can disable tons of shit that is supposed to dim an fuck up the image already this is just one more thing that is bad
but yes you are correct it's the retarded manufacturers trying to prolong the warranty window beyond 3 years so they don't have to replace peoples monitors why we got forced refreshes and shit like that

literally makes shit unusable

like I cannot even imagine people who came up with that shit

can you imagine your oled phone randomly taking a break for 6 minutes because it needs a refresh while you try to call 911 because you are dying?

oled laptops, tvs

nothing behaves like this

only for gaymers

again, its not all manufacturers

samsung monitor division does not do this, not lg

asus i dont think does it

and the worst thing about it all its entirely placebo made up dog shit, nothing demands you need to run a pixel refresh at set hours to prevent burn in

you could aswell do it way later

its completely made up shit

msi and other manufacturers raised the forced hours to 24 hours to alleviate this shit, remember when I called it out long before when it was 16 hours by default? I said it was shit, it's still shit though but you might dodge it more now, or not ,depending on

but again the implementation is completely random on what monitor specifically manufacturer have no standard evenm between monitors on the same manufacturer the shit is different, firmwares, everything

its just abhorrent

makes a nigga wanna use a shit lcd way more

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>got FOMd and bought 5070 Ti for 950 EUR yesterday
>the cheapest 5070 Ti in my country is now 1070 EUR
Holy shit they really ARE getting more expensive...
Glad I panic bought.

>>109422055
If you bought a 5090 during the dip like I told you, you could have sold it and bought a free 5070 Ti for the spare money

>>109422038
>can you imagine your oled phone randomly taking a break for 6 minutes because it needs a refresh while you try to call 911 because you are dying?
you can press the power button five times to call SOS on most smartphones even when they are locked

>>109422065
now imagine the phone cuts off all external audio and goes black (audio was muted on monitor speakers while my old oled monitor refreshed) while trying to call 911 so your five button press does not work?
do you wanna know how deep my grievances goes with a pixel refresh my negro?

>>109422064
>5090s are now 4500+ EUR
I would probably get robed or raped trying to sell this on the marketplace so def not a valid reselling strategy lmao

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You know things are bad when the person who encouraged people to buy video cards (5090) with BNPL plans last year turned out to be sharing sound financial advice.

>>109422055
I don't think 5070Tis really change much
I bought mine for EUR 890 in April 2025
Sure it's like 50 bucks more now, but a 5070Ti is kinda useless for local AI unless you like to run Qwen3.5-9B

>>109422092
>now imagine
yea but your example was bad. The majority of people probably doesn't even know that trick as it allows you to use even someone else smartphone to call SOS if shit hits the fan. My ASUS monitor only pixel cleans if I turn it off or prompt it manually but I also never used it for 8 hours in a row as I turn off my PC when I go away for more than 10 minutes.

>>109422108
I don't want to AI, I just wanted a gaming upgrade from 3060 Ti to 5070 Ti and I am very happy with the upgrade.
Plus, furtureproofed myself with the 16GB of VRAM.

>>109422099
>tell people 5090 is the best value gpu because it wont go down in price only up
>2x the price now
getting tired of being vindicated all the time