Box editionprevious >>109418197READ THE (temp)WIKI! & help by contributing:https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Home_server/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. Know all about NAS? Learn virtualization. Spun up some VMs? Learn about networking by standing up a OPNsense/PFsense box and configuring some VLANs. There's always more to learn and chances to grow. Think you’re god-tier already? Setup OpenStack and report back.>What software should I run?Install Gentoo. Or whatever flavor of *nix is best for the job or most comfy for you. Jellyfin/Emby/Plex to replace Netflix, Nextcloud to replace Googlel, Ampache/Navidrome to replace Spotify, the list goes on. Look at the awesome self-hosted list and ask.>Why should I have a home server?De-botnet your life. Learn something new. Serving applications to yourself, your family, and your frens feels good. Put your tech skills to good use for yourself and those close to you. Store their data with proper availability redundancy and backups and serve it back to them with a /comfy/ easy to use interface.>Links & resourcesCool stuff to host: https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhostedhttps://reddit.com/r/datahoarderhttps://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/indexhttps://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/FeaturesARM-based SBCs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PGaVu0sPBEy5GgLM8N-CvHB2FESdlfBOdQKqLziJLhQLow-power x86 systems: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LHvT2fRp7I6Hf18LcSzsNnjp10VI-odvwZpQZKv_NCISFF cases https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AddRvGWJ_f4B6UC7_IftDiVudVc8CJ8sxLUqlxVsCz4/Cheap disks: https://shucks.top/ https://diskprices.com/PCIE info: https://files.catbox.moe/id6o0n.pdf>i226-V NICs are bad for servers>For more SATA ports, use PCIe SAS HBAs in IT modeWiFi fixing: pastebin.com/raw/vXJ2PZxnCockpit is nice for remote administrationRemember:RAID protects you from DOWNTIMEBACKUPS protect you from DATA LOSS
tangentially related (routers)i've been waiting for the flint 4 to come out, but over time doing something like a unifi cloud gateway ultra + a wifi 7 ap. i now don't give a crap about ubiquity privacy because there's a dozen other vectors of privacy invading tech we already have. Does anyone here have a unifi setup? How does it compare to a shitty 2010 router on freshtomato?
>>109447975reminds me of 1-2 years ago when i was replying to anons here looking for storage with ebay links like>16x 4TB sata drives, tested, great, working, all for $199and people were like>wtf stop shilling those sellers nobody needs that many driveswell, times sure have changed eh
All of a sudden, qbittorrent has started to throw out this errorqBittorrent client is not reachablewhenever I select multiple torrents, any idea what could be causing it?
where do you get your domains from? while cloudflare is cheap, I don't want to make a deal with the devil, also being locked in to their dns is stupid.
>>109456374I use namecheap
>>109450883>BACKUPS protect you from DATA LOSSwhat do you use for making backups? I really need to up my game in this area, because my last backup is probably like 3 years old. I need to automate it somehow.
>>109456374whichever has a flat fee per year instead of judaic practices like "$1 for first year, $79 for next year"
>>109456447I recently started using Backrest, which is a front-end for restic. Figured it'd be nicer to use than juggling scripts on a headless machine. Makes it a lot easier to check my backup status on my phone, etc. Seems okay so far.https://github.com/garethgeorge/backrest
>>109456447the big two are restic and borg. Both work well, only the first time setup is annoying.After you have regular backup, your focus will shift from "my last backup was 3 years ago" to "I tested the restore procedure 3 years ago", which is much preferable
Has anybody done the math recently on upgrading your system to lower power costs? Is it worth it these days, or are prices so fucked that you shouldn't do it if you also have to buy new RAM?My homeserver still runs on a DDR3 AMD Athlon(tm) X4 845, which is enough for my needs, but even a DDR4 build could save me between 30 to 80 dollars a year and would run significantly faster.
>>109456447I use Proxmox Backup Server. Using the built in functionality on pve and proxmox backup client in vm's and other machines as applicable.
>>109457227I imagine that in most cases you will not save any actual money after you account for the parts you buy and the time you have them in service.
>>109457227Is that not power inefficient? You can buy Zen 1 parts or old APUs extremly cheap now, B350 boards and basic 4/8 GB DDR4 modules.
>>109455601I have a problem with Deluge that it does not download. Its a VM in proxmox, but it worked before.Its the 2.1 version but I have found no way to update it if it would even resolve it. Should I get qbittorrent server when I have to reinstall anyway is it like Deluge or better? I like something that allows to add torrents from any device and finish them comfortably on NAS.
>>109457457you do save money, actuallyespecially where kwh is high
>>109457661>you do save money, actuallyDoubt. Especially if you're gonna have a bunch of spinning rust around.
>>109457733>Doubtyou can spam "doubt" all you want but ancient desktop amd/pre-haswell ddr3 builds idle at 40-50-60W doing nothing with no drives connected and you can easily save half with any intel ddr4 platform. or he can reuse ddr3 with some $8 haswell xeon and $15 motherboard which is still far more efficient and cool and quieti actually tried all this and saved&shaved many watts (in some euro countries saving 30 watts per hour = saving $100 per year) i ""'doubt"" you ever tried anything outside seething here. spending $50 to save $500 in the next 5 years is quite a bargain for some of us.
>>109458239Thats why I wouldnt use Xeon or old 2011 hardware anymore its just so weak and power hungry
>>109450883>WHATS IN DA BOOAAAAAX?!To be fair if I saw John Doe built that I'd also shoot him.
>>109459030Kek basedgood afternoon /hsg/ I fucking hate computers
>>109450883>picreldamn, that's relatable. I didn't bother with fans and just poke a million holes in a shoebox. it wasn't pretty.
Anyone here use a VPS together with a home server? I've been debating whether there's anything useful I could do with one that I cannot do better with my home server already. Maybe use one to front connections for public services so your home IP remains hidden to users?
Anyone use arctic server fans? I assume they're good but curious if anyone has any experience.
>server acts like it lost power for no reason today even though its got a laptop battery in it>no logs indicating whyspooky
I want to expose Calibre-Web so my ereaders can access my OPDS feeds. Do I need more security than ensuring that my passwords are good if I'm running this through Caddy and using a Cloudflare Tunnel? To be clear, I'm not exposing anything beyond http://localhost:8083, and frankly for extra security, I might see if I can just expose http://localhost:8083/opds or something. I'm basically relying that there's no attack vectory in calibre thta would allow them to fuck me, but I do suppose I wonder what I could and would do to beef up security here. Seems like they'd have to either A) Crack the admin password or B) find an exploit to allow uploads, but neither of these things SEEM all that likely to me. I'm just not clear how I'd protect against any of this however, and I thought that the cloudflare tunnel would protect me from a lot of garbage already anyways.I access the rest of my server via tailscale so I'm not exactly worried about anything else
>>109464522Nigger, why do you care if some Indian scammer hacks your books? Oh, no they might find your copy of the King James Bible.Good passwords should be used, yes, but I don't think it matters much at the end of the day.
>>109464463How is it gonna log about losing power if it doesn't have power?
>>109460624I use a vps just to tunnel because my isp is trash
You range ban israel and india right anon?
>>109466341No.
>>109450883I want to host my own calendar, something with an MCP server would be preferable - I want to ask my local model to check and make appointments etc.Radicale sounds like a good pick, do you guys have any other recs or am I good to go?
How come with case fans, particularly server ones apparently, the sticker might say 12 volt 2 amp but then you look at the data sheet and it says it only uses 12 watts despite the sticker saying double that?
>>109468074Maybe the higher rating is supposed to include the startup current or something, which is always higher than whatever it will draw nominally while running.
>>109450883Am I missing out on something or the state of the art in ebook self hosting is still OPDS? Are there any modern protocols that e.g. sync read position and completion status? >>109464522Yeah with CW I think all the defenses that are available to you are the network (tailscale etc) + strong password. You can probably look into running the application in an unprivileged container but that's defense in depth, a lot of things have to go wrong for this to become relevant.As this >>109465271 anon says I don't think the blast radius is that large, at worst the attacker can download the books you downloaded from anna or zlib. Unless you keep some material there that cannot be exposed to unauthorized people, but in that case you have a very unique threat model and I don't think most people in the home box community can help you.
>>109464522It all depends on the security practices of Kovid Goyal. Most software is largely secure because no one is allowed to interact with it, but once you put it online you're asking "has Mr. Goyal made his web app properly? Has he made the opds endpoint secure?" and if the question was easily resolved into a yes/no answer cybresecurity wouldn't exist as a field and there wouldn't be any vulnerabilities left.That's why people use WireGuard or TailScale, because the question then becomes "have the developers of WireGuard or TailScale secured their software properly?" and the answer is more likely to be "yes" because that is one of the core purposes of the software. If you have a set of people you want as users (or in this case, a set of devices) this is the better approach.I guess you're having trouble getting the ereaders on TailScale though? I've looked up and seen it's been done for a few ereader models like the Kobo Libra 2, but that'll depend on your ereader. I imagine it's a worse scene on Kindles but I haven't checked.
>>109465271Are you sure it's going to stop at the books though? Why would it?
>>109466314What sort of tunneling are you doing? Forwarding some ports over SSH?
>>109468143I think the typical way people make it work with Kindles is setting up some kind of SMTP integration and mailing the books to an account that their Kindle connects do. To me this seems like kinda defeating the point of self hosting (no man is an island but this way Bezos still essentially holds your reading experience hostage) but to each man their own. Anyway I may be talking out of my ass, I read on a GPD pocket.
>>109468151OPDS does not expose the ability to do anything but browse the catalog and download the books.If someone cracked the admin password and also accessed the GUI, they could potentially delete the books or upload some bullshit too, which isn't good (you do backup your shit, right anon?) but it would take some very high CVE vulns for that to be able to convert to code execution.
>>109468224That's the intention, but code doesn't always follow the author's intention.Here's the security alerts list for calibre-web:https://github.com/janeczku/calibre-web?tab=security-ov-fileRCEs from being able to edit basically any text field is one that stood out to me. If you could upload a book you could set the description, title, etc. and so execute code like that. Of course that isn't an attack vector right here as long as everything is working how it should, but I share it just to illustrate that the gap between "OPDS isn't supposed to expose the ability to do anything but [...]" and "OPDS actually doesn't expose the ability to do anything but [...]" is not guaranteed to be nil.All these vulnerabilities got fixed, but because it is non-trivial to find these in the first place there could be more in there, there could be more introduced later. If there's an option to get the ereader on TailScale, and so move the vulnerability set to theirs, which is more closely watched, that would be the better approach. I didn't spend too much time looking into it, as I don't own a Kindle, but it looks like this is possible with two plugins (one for TailScale and one for ODPS) for KOReader on a jailbroken device.>>109468194I agree it would be best to avoid that. It seems to be possible with plugins I mentioned, but I also don't have a Kindle. Kobo is what I prefer.
>>109468332>That's the intention, but code doesn't always follow the author's intention.That would require using the GUI or unofficial API, not the OPDS endpoint, but yes. That is why you use stuff like Tailscale, and don't run the application with more permissions than it needs to have.
>>109468166I use wireguard to connect my server to the vps, and then add iptables rules in the vps to forward connections to and from the server.
>>109468525Yeah I see, so you're basically doing a sort of DNAT over the VPN. I don't really host anything public at this point but I was thinking about using Wireguard like that as well, should the need ever arise.
>>109468102You're probably right but it sure does make it annoying as hell trying to figure out which fans have the best performance per watt per dollar without going over (consumer motherboards usually have a 1 amp max per header) when you have to check every product page and data sheet for every individual fan rather than just compare the advertised numbers. Like how fucking vacuum manufacturers like to quote that their 120v vacuum is somehow 965hp, but they're just quoting the one femtosecond upon startup that the motor draws a gazillion amps when in reality it only uses like 2 while running.
>>109457733>>109458239Very much depends on the power supply and boardIt's not as simple as picking a generation because I can very much pick a modern CPU and a "decent" (by pcbg/gaymer standards) motherboard and power supply and be worse off than something 10 or even 15 years older in absolute idle and it's all because the current market values zero about idle efficiency with sub 70% efficient PSUs or Mobo VRMs that only start hitting their efficiency peak at 200wI have a haswell system that consumes 28w with a few SSDs. I cannot replace that system solely based on power savings because the possible savings is pretty low to begin with and it's unpredictable as to the improvements.Same with the E5-2690 v4 system. Even if I were to blow hundreds on getting the absolute most modern DDR4 platform. I cannot be sure what the improvements will be. The only way to guarantee any savings would be downgrading from a server platform to a consumer/low power platform but to me that isn't savings and more giving up.
>>109465271honestly it's nothing about that. I just don't want malicious actors to find a 0 day or something. Everyone can know that I'm reading Lolita right now idgaf >>109468136okay, that makes me feel a lot better yeah. I didn't think it was that huge, but figured it was worth double checking on it. I'll probably just expose the OPDS feed at worst.>>109468143yeah, you got it on the ereader thing. I think it might be possible on my Kobo, but I bought this Xteink to use and it's pretty cool but too painful right now to get it on the tailscale network, so I figured I'd just expose CW with a cloudflare tunnel. Strong passwords, the OPDS password itself won't even allow uploads, so I guess you and the other anons call it that it just depends on if CW has an exploit, AND people are willing to track down that I've got it exposed, AND exploit it. I don't think the market for that kind of exploit is all that large when you can just go back to scanning the common open ports out there for idiots seems like a pretty small attack vector. I wouldn't be surprised if there IS a 0 day out there for Calibre Web (or CWA which is what I'm trying), but it seems like a pretty targeted attack at that point. I think I'll just expose the OPDS feed and keep myself secure there. Seems easy enough.
>>109465327I mean it's not clear to me how it lost power in the first place. Battery is set to charge between 40-60 percent so it acts like a UPS but battery never lost charge, so I'm not clear how the computer turned off at all. Unless the cat somehow stepped on the lid of the laptop JUST right
>>109468681>idle efficiency with sub 70% efficient PSUsI have a 80 PLUS Titanium PSU and it has 90% efficiency rating even at 10% load. Costs a pretty penny though.80 PLUS Ruby would be ≥90% even at 5% loads, but I don't know if there's any on the market yet.
>>109468697>AND people are willing to track down that I've got it exposedI think they would have to find it first. If you put it behind a reverse proxy at /<LONG STRING>/opds then they probably won't ever find it. Obviously, that's security through obscurity and it could be a pain to type in the long URL but if you have to expose it publicly and are still worried then that's what I'd do.
>>109468659>out which fans have the best performance per watt per dollar without going overUnless you have an extremely specific need for 5000+ RPM fans. Most FDB fans don't take a large amount of current. You can run 3 fans on one header without going over and will last plenty long.Arctic does also have specific server fans which are meant to be efficient.
>>109468729The fucked up thing is that it's hard to find a titanium PSU under 1000W so even at 10% loads that's 100wBetween zero and 100w the PSU can be however efficient it wants, which is still well over the idle range of most built systems.
>>109468789>The fucked up thing is that it's hard to find a titanium PSU under 1000W so even at 10% loads that's 100wMine's 850W so 10% is 85W. At 5% loads, tests found it to be at ~84% efficiency. Not excellent but not crap.
>>109468759I have a 4u case with 3 120s and 2 80s with arctic plain p12 (~55cfm) and p8 (~25 cfm) fans and it just doesn't have enough airflow, I can't keep my 65w cpu below 80c under light loads. I was looking at some deltas because I know they are very high quality, pretty cheap used and move a ton of air. I also looked at arctics pro/max fans but they are about the same price or sometimes more expensive (when they are even in stock) for less max cfm and pressure and also their actual server fans are about equivalent to used deltas in price and performance but after watching a couple review videos holy mother of fuck they are LOUD even at 50% (and legitimately a hearing hazard at full tilt) and use 3-4 amps meaning I would have to get a separate fan controller anyway, and if I'm going to do that then again I might as well get some used high power deltas for cheaper.
>>109469359>can't keep my 65w cpu below 80c under light loadsno waywhat cpu and cpu cooler you got?
>>1094694735600x with pack in wraith stealth. The cooler isn't the problem, it's that I moved it into the 4u from its old case so it can be my server, in the old case that had like 7 p12 fans (3 in 4 out) and in there it would pretty much never reach 85 even at full power.
>>109469517>The cooler isn't the problemit is, actually any stock cooler is dogshit regardless of its tryhard name "wraith alpha rapist" whatever is called.get an actual cooler and you will fix the temp issue. i run a 5800x3D in a 4U and i got zero such problems, i only got front 120mm intake fans and thats it i dont need 23 more fans to cool it.
>>109469687Well regardless of the fact I still want more airflow for everything else I have in the case
>>109469687the cooler definitely isn’t the problem, anon just has shit airflow
>>109470516or bad mounting/contact/paste to the cpu
>>109469687The ambient temp in anon's server room is 98.
>>109470571yeah i've skipped the paste before and shit got insanely hot, i couldn't figure out why that would happen
>>109470516>can't keep my 65w cpu below 80c under light loads>garbage stock desktop cooler isn't the problemYou are mentally ill.
Dude home servers are such a cool hobby. This baby pirates movies and tv shows, fetches subtitles, re-encodes the file for web players and burns in the subs, then uploads it to a digitalocean bucket for me so I can drop them in cytube to watch shit with my friends. Got all of IASIP processed while I took a long nap today. It's taken months of on and off tinkering, but now I'm finally feeling like it's pretty stable and am trying to think of what I should do with it next
Ok so I might be getting a Dell PowerEdge R750 with 16x 2.4 TB drives for free. I don't know anything about servers and I have no experience in networking other than playing with my router settings. I want to use it for storage and so that I can watch movies and shows I download from anywhere on my phone. Where would be the best place to learn how to do this I am so lost.
>>109470755???ambient room temp (20) + 57 = 77. even the worst case you posted is below 80
>>109472858Jellyfin. Follow a tutorial, watch a YouTube video, or ask your favorite LLM how to set it up. It might take you an evening or two if you really have no idea what you're doing.In the past I would have recommended Plex for "just works", but lifetime licenses went from less than $100 to a dick-peeling $750 as of last month.
you guys make me feel like the biggest retard on the planet
>>109472952>ambient room temp (20)>20you just make up bullshit now, anon's room is not 20imagine debating the benefits of non-stock desktop cooler solutiontake your contrarian posts somewhere else and go hang yourself
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>>109469687Based thermalright
>>109472952>ambient room temp (20)You live in a fridge or something?
Is jellyfin transcoding on amd via vaapi gud or should I pick up a quadro for nvenc? I already have the amd gpu.
How do you guys even monitor your idle wattage
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>>109475438It's been a while since I used that but I'm pretty sure it does support VAAPI.
>>109450883good evening lads, i need some help with my hp ProLiant ML310e Gen8 v2, specifically with the dynamic smart array. problem is that, when I create a raid 0 array with a single SSD, which is at 99% life according to crystaldisk, set it as boot disk and reboot the array disappears. has someone seen something similar? any ideas? no, there's no save button, it should save every single change at the moment it is made, it worked like that a couple days ago, now it doesn't
>>109477712nvm dunno why it worked but i somehow fixed it by making a second array with all the bay disks
>>109474048>>109469687i have a thermalright phantom spirit and my ryzen 7700 idles at 60c is this normal
https://github.com/V4bel/Zapscape>another new kvm guest to host exploitproxmox sisters...
>>109475713Why?>>109479728That doesn't sound right. You're not getting good contact. Reseat it.
>>109479728you took the plastic sticker off right
>tfw my shitty refurb raid slave drive started clickingYou've got to be fucking kidding me I really don't want to replace this shit right now.How are Seagate Skyhawk drives if I just need something to keep RAID? They have some cheap ones on Ebay.
>>109484227get wd reds, the chad thundercock choice of drives
Hi guys newfaggot here, I just upgraded my pc and now have an old one with ~7TB of data I’d like network access to at least while I’m home. New PC is win11, old is win10. Is it even feasible to set the old one up as a constantly available server/network drive? I tried when I first built the new one by linking them with a lan cable and following some youtube tutorials to set it up as a local network, and it worked for about a day and then stopped and I never was able to get it working again. That was 4 months ago though and now I've forgotten how it was even set up. I know servers are usually a linux thing but I lack the qualifications. Any tips are appreciated thank you.
>truenas pc idle power with gt710 only: 130w>Idle power with gt710 and 3080: 95wWat
Just migrated all my self-hosted services to a new server. Didn't realize how much update neglect there was. Nextcloud is like, SEVERAL versions behind. Tomorrow's problem. At least the services are all up.
I have a Ryzen 5700x desktop and a Thinkpad T560 on hand, which should I turn into a completely beginner torrent and file server? My main device is a Mac nowadays, so I can live without the desktop, though I am more worried about power consumption or fucking things up on it.
>>109485698Probably doing something with the drives on the first one.
This is how I feel after setting up SSH key login for the first time.
>>109468525do you host your email? of so, what do you use?
>>109486484shit replied by mistake
>>109486484Self-hosting email is not really doable, at least not at home, unless you have an ISP that will set the PTR record properly, etc, then expect all of your emails to be filtered as spam.You'd need a VPS somewhere to properly self-host email although you're likely better off just paying someone to host it for you.
Box are bad for thermals , specially in the EU where there's no central AC in residential buildings (some commercial ones don't even)Lost job, revived my miniserver due to writing logs to EMMC memory like an idiot, job searching is awful, have been coding in Rust, Java and Python the latter being the one that paid the bills. If I don't find a job in the next 3 months, I'll setup this server in a friends home, leave it to him and off myself in a field.
>>109486943Good luck with your suicide!
>>i226-V NICs are bad for servers>>109450883You mean old revisions of i226-v are bad unless updated with new firmware.Also windows drivers for this nic are shit, same as windows in general.
>>109487025Thank you! May your coffee never taste bitter and your beer always be cold to the touch.
>>109486943He would be happier with it if it was in one nicely contained box.
>>109486943If you don't make a video like this I'm gonna be disappointed in you anonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBYxbMiHgUg
>>109486293I don't think so, I turned off everything that would cause CPU or HDD load like applications and shares and then let the system settle for 10 minutes after booting before checking the killawatt, and both readings were steady state with maybe a +/- 5w swing. Even confirmed it this morning after turning everything back on as normal the night before and just letting it do whatever, still 90-100w idle with both cards installed. It doesn't make logical sense and I don't understand what's happening, but I'm certainly not complaining.
I bought a pic related. What can I do with it that I cannot do with a regular router?
I'm am not a network bro, I don't want to have to deal with routing tables, DNS this or that, IP management. I just want an ad blocker, firewall, and VPN to route all devices on the network through and I don't want to pay $500 for firewalla for something that simple. Wtf can I get that isn't cheap Chinese spyware?
>>109487715Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway Ultra, although the built-in ad-blocking isn't exactly great. I'd rather use Pi-hole for that.
Hey guys, i've been thinking of upgrading to 10 gig fibre (from gpon). I'd prefer to make my own router from a minipc, but i'm not sure which one to get, so it would be powerful enough for 10 gig routing, 10 gig pppoe and support pcie cards. For the nic I'm thinking about a mellanox connectx-3 2x10 gig. Any ideas?
>>109473292You are, but you won't learn anything if you don't try. What's confusing you anon?
>>109487715See >>109487622
>>109487715Glinet routers are good, they run a custom version of OpenWRT on them. They're made by a chink company though so you can't buy them right now because of the FCC.You could get something like the OpenWRT One:https://openwrt.org/toh/openwrt/oneYou probably can't buy that anymore either though, again, thanks to the FCC, they really don't want you to use free and open source software that lacks any Chink or American spyware.I wouldn't buy Ubiquiti unless you like spending a lot of money but since the FCC decided you can't buy other routers they may be your best realistic option.
>>109487998What are your requirements? I'm pretty sure any AMD APU could handle that nowadays with the networking mostly being offloaded.I think needing to use pppoe will be what screws you over though. It's extremely inefficient to need to use that at 10-gig speeds. My ISP just does plain DHCP on the WAN.
>>109488255Can they not be imported into the US? I think the ban only applies to retailers based in the US
>>109488363If you personally import them, yes, they don't stop that. If you go on their online store you can't buy them in the US right now though, at least according to what I've seen in their reddit (I'm not american so can't confirm myself).What the FCC is doing to you guys is fucked.
>>109488378So just go to some international online marketplace and place the order there.
>>109488436Yeah, there's definitely ways around it. You should be able to buy it direct from them and distributed from the US though.So many people are going to end up buying proprietary garbage that's worse than the free and open software running on those Chinese routers.The routers the FCC says you can buy are all made in China too anyway by the way so their idiotic plan solves nothing.
Didn't see the other anon make a post about it, but I'll give my 30 day impression of...Tandoor https://github.com/TandoorRecipes/recipesI like the software now that I've been using it for a while, and I think I'm inclined to use it for the future instead of trying to go back to Mealie. It's got some parts that feel a bit clunkier, but the package itself still comes across as being more intuitive and overall better.The Good:>Handles recipes and ingredients way more cleanly than mealie. It doesn't force you to standardize your recipe ingredients. This is maybe a good thing for some but I just wanna dump recipes in and have access to them. I'm not looking to maintain standards beyond that>Does well importing web recipes, better than mealie, and the AI import features helped after I wrote some scripting just to maybe dump certain pages it couldn't figure out>interface is clean, more or less easy to find whatever I want>I haven't used it much, but the meal plan functionality does seem useful>has an app that goes with it, kinda nice for phones>the meh>seems a little more memory and CPU intensive than mealie>have to run it via reverse proxy to get the functionality fully (not a big deal but annoying)>used to have long startups, but seems like its chilled out so may not be its fault>I don't think the UI is quite as polished as mealie>it irks me that it wants you to put all the ingredients in steps rather than just "having the ingredients at the top" that's probably my biggest complaint>can't custom configure the AI stuff, so limits me a bit on importing websites unless I have like two AI models tackle it on weird onesingredients list is still kinda fussy, don't know why its so against me just having ingredients as one plaintext line >grocery list is kinda weird>also organizing recipes DOES seem more ocnfusing than mealie.Overall, I plan to continue using tandoor I think over mealie, but I think both are cool stuff
>>109468729You can get pretty good deals on ebay. A lot of zoomers need the new meme PCIe 600w cables, and practically give away titanium PSU's for server chads like us.I got a 600w seasonic titanium for $40 delivered with cables. Efficiency profile is below, which as an electrical engineer by profession is an absolutely insane technical achievement by Seasonic.
>>109488516I don't want to buy a Seasonic before they figure out shipping proper SATA cables.
>>109488344Would be nice if it was small, so a minipc. I was thinking of some lenovo minipc m720q or m920q, because they have pcie slots, but i'm unsure if the i5 8500t or i5 9500t would cut it. Price is another thing. I don't want to shell out more than about 200-300 usd on this thing.
>>109488255>GlinetI got one of their little GL-AR300M16-EXT routers for my IOT network. It's the new non-nand version with the external aerials. Flashed it with standard openwrt and it's be great.
>>109488471Why is a program that stores recipes heavy on the cpu?
>be polite>be patient >get entirely ignored This is why murder is funny and I sincerely hope it happens to someone you love I’ll crack a beer next time I hear about one.
>>109484667>linking them with a lan cablejust create a network share>>109489433>Figured you fat fucking losers would just ignore it entirelywow, you must be fun at parties. I'm busy working. Did you try tying a fishing line connecting two solo cups and running it between the two computers?
>>109489529Kill yourself you worthless piece of shit and fuck your thread
>>109489533>Kill yourself you worthless piece of shit and fuck your threadi literally told you to create a network share which is valid advice for transfering what you want and your response is this?Wow, look at all these network shares that i have, sucks that thats too hard for you to grasp
>>109489688>Elitist fat nigger faggot cocksuckers are obsolete in 2026.Clearly not considering how badly they get under your skin.
>>109489802Not really, more like I naively and briefly thought there would be more value in a human to human conversation about it, but I learned my lesson. The comet cannot come soon enough, you all deserve to be completely wiped out and its what God intends for you. If I have to die in the process as ling as you do too then its worth it. You’re all worthless animals.
>>109489842>I naively and briefly thought there would be more value in a human to human conversationWeird, considering how incapable you are at one.
>>109489688Hold on a minute there anon, I'm going to need to push back on that. If you want real advice you should probably actually describe your problem properly. Say what you tried. Say what worked before and what doesn't work now. That sort of thing.It broke and no werky is no gud to anyone.
>>109489866I tried here >>109484667Why would I continue being cordial and polite if it yields no results? Seems being threatening and shitty is a much more worthwhile path, and I have you all to thank for enlightening me, nigger. >>109489880I tried the gay network share shit and windows 11 reverted something. Idk, ill ask claude, he’s more helpful and doesn't have a stick up his ass.
>>109489842>I naively and briefly thought there would be more value in a human to human conversation about itpot calling the kettle black; i literally suggested a working solution (which is easy as fuck to set up) and your response was insults.>>109489903>I tried the gay network share shit and windows 11 reverted somethingi bet you're dumbass forgot to tick the box that says "re-connect at sign in". Also, when you map a network drive it will only be available under the account you were signed into when you mapped it. But idk, keep screaming, pissing and shitting into the wind, im sure it will work eventually
>>109489966Funny how you immediately responded to my shitty post and not the polite post from 12 hours before. Curious >gay fat faggot nerd shit blah blah blah blah blah My personal claude slave tells me its not my problem.
>>109490000Claude is lying to you to get you to buy more tokens. Network shares don't just break.
>>109490013No he isnt, my $100 plan gives me way more than I need for most trivial tasks like this. Only when I’m vibeslopping my video game do I run out and thats only when I’m going hard on it.
>>109490000>My personal claude slave tells me its not my problemoh so you don't want to access storage on another local computer then? Then why were you "politely posting" about wanting it 12 hours ago? Have you already given up?>>109490013>Network shares don't just breakThis. But i dont think claude is making him buy more tokens, i think its user error even when given the exact steps to take. He doesnt sound too bright.>>109490023>pays $100 for AI and still cant figure out the most basic and reliable way to share folders locally over the networklmao
>>109489475What are you whining about you histrionic?
>>109490034>>pays $100 for AI and still cant figure out the most basic and reliable way to share folders locally over the network>lmaoIsn't the target audience of Claude retards that can't and don't want to figure shit out?
Has anyone at all gotten RomM to work properly with Genesis/Mega Drive games? I'm beating my head against the wall because the emulator seems to think the system uses an ABXY controller layout, rather than ABCXYZ. And of course 'how do I unfuck this' search results are all 'here is how to configure the input' not 'the input itself is wrong', so it feels like I'm taking crazy pills. I just want to play Streets of Rage properly ffs
>>109482937htop on Fedora says around 46c but other programs generally report ~60c. apparently it has to do with how they measure hot spots? that's the only cooler i've put on it and when i've benchmarked in windows temps are within "normal" range and it surpasses others of it's model performance wise. >>109483075i've been running it for like three years now and it was my first PC i wasn't assembling out of scrap. the sticker was clear and i didn't notice for like a fucking month. cleaned the fan and cpu off with alcohol quite thoroughly after.
>>109491350to add i've reseated, undone and redone the screws and repasted like three times
>>109489155I shouldn't say heavy as in "WOW ITS REALLY SENDING MY CPU UP TO MAX" but I'm running this on an X250 laptop. I noticed it once was chewing up a lot more CPU than I expected (still like 5-10 percent) but I'm presuming might have just been database management. Mealie gives you options of two db models so that might be it.
did storage and memory come down in price yet?
Hi I’m from UK. Not sure if there are any other UK anons here but if you host anything public how do you get around age laws and such? I’ve been thinking about running wireguard on a vps and having my server route to said vps to obsfuscate my server’s location so I can still own my data without dumping it all into a vps. I plan on hosting random elixir imageboard clone for fun/for experience I don’t want to ban ppl from posting nsfw like a manchild.
>>109493901LONDONONDON
>>109491350amd has bad thermals and idle draw in generalexception would be some monolithic dies like 4650Gi dont even bother on my amd box, it's just for steam gayman and nothing more. the intel+nvidia equivalent would easily pull way less but cant be bothered now. videocard alone would be like 8W vs 38W.
>>109494156>videocard alone would be like 8W vs 38W.*when idle
>>109493763no but check back tomorrow
>server has been chugging along fine>nothing really left to add or tinker with>just log in, docker compose pull up prune, log outAlmost wanna blow it all up for no reason just so I have something to mess with again
>>109494663In 14 minutes?
>>109456374Ive been tempted to buy KFs domain ever since their shutdown. Sad its only worth $30/yr. Josh must've sold it at a loss.
Are networking questions appropriate for this general? I'm in the process of setting up a home network that will be fed by a 5Gb fiber connection. Here's my thinking, using Ubiquiti equipment:>Cloud Gateway Fiber: in the basement, right next to the ONT. Will feed PC downstairs, a Shield TV Pro downstairs, and then be fed through the drop ceiling to the upstairs office, which is where I'll put a...>Pro XG 8 POE: this will feed...>U7 Pro XG: probably two upstairs, one downstairs (the downstairs one I'll feed from the gateway) I will probably, maybe, eventually, add a camera or two to the switch for home security. I'm new to any kind of home networking (in the past it's just been modem + router) but this new house is probably 3k square feet including the basement so I'm looking to future proof a bit. Does ethernet cable brand matter? Any networking gurus have any thoughts on any of this? If this is the wrong thread, feel free to point me to the correct one. Thanks, pals.
I was retarded and bought a Synology NAS that has 1 GB RAM only. Basically it just has jellyfin, sonarr and qbittorrent but I can't run jellyfin and sonarr at the same time as jellyfin keeps crashing and I switch between them manually. Any way I can optimize this shit to run them both at the same time or did I fuck up and have to buy something better? Note: I'm a thirdie so the prices kind of x3 for me due to shipping fees and shit.
>>109495399i don't know how locked down synology boxes are, but you should add more swap if it lets you.swapping ram to/from disk is slow but better than crashing
>>109495399You need more RAM. Even the 4 GB Synology units are woefully insufficient.
>>109495399This is an 'add more RAM, problem solved' issue.
Any way to get around the issue of persistent noise?
What are some non-criminal use cases for small individual server clusters besides maintaining/streamlining/archiving your personal data?
I just hosted my first homepage on my homelab server https://extern.maddieaxx.com .What do you say?
>>109450883what's the best way to add hdd on a mini pc that doesn't have a port for hdds? Should I use an enclosure? A prebuilt nas?
>>109498572you can get powered sata/sas connectors on ali that are cheap. the only problem i've had is they're finicky if you disturb them. enclosures keep in heat so buy a good one and don't cheap out on ali trash.
got a t620 thinclient to use as a server, didnt need much storage so i bought a super cheap external usb hdd but the thing just keeps spinning down and fucking up the mount points in debianwhat would be the cheapest way to fix this? a powered hdd hub? are there any that support both 2.5 and 3.5" drives?
>>109498615did you try hdparm? there is a parameter that determines the activity state and spin down of a drive. i spin most of mine down after a minute of idle.
>>109498660i disabled spindown completely yeah
>>109498615>super cheap external usb hddthese have chong firmware hardcoded to sleepyour only option is to run a task that read/writes 2 bytes every minute so it doesnt sleep
>>109499135guess i gotta seed a linux distro or something until i can replace it
I need a wifi 7 router. I'll drop it into AP mode behind a firewall to accept an 802.1Q vlan trunk and broadcast multiple isolated SSIDs per vlan. What should i get? Would be better if it's less than 200$
IT'S TOO HOT TO TURN MY SERVER ON BECAUSE IT'S SITTING IN THE SAME ROOM HELP
>>109500030HAP BE 3the only one you need for the next decade
>>109502052not available in amerisrael.
>>109502085then get thiswww.ebay.com/itm/407129995318
>finally build my own little server>decide to run Hentai@Home>check the cache after a few days>it's 90% AI shitIt's fucking disgusting. I don't know if I want to keep running this shit anymore...
>>109502580>Hentai@Homewhat the fuck is that?...good lord we need forced labor camps and public beatings.
>>109450883general question for those who already have some experience: color coded network cables for a homelab or attach colored caps or tags at the end of it? how you all doing it?
>>109497124Design your lab around power and noise efficiency, replace smaller fans with larger fans if possible, and replace shittier fans with higher quality if you’re left with no other option. Or just put it in a spare room if you aren’t broke
just set up an email server on my home server with my very own domain! i've got dkim and everything.i'm pretty excited about it, but i really hope gmail stops sending me to spam soon...
>>109495206Not an expert by any means but that sounds fine to me, though very expensive and you're locked into ubiquiti. You might want to use a spectrum analyzer and make sure you actually need 3 u7 pro xg's. >Does ethernet cable brand matterNo, not really.
>>109497124airconditioning so you can lower your rpm.depending on size of case/rack, create or order a custom shroud to a 200mm+ ductfan(preferably in another room).relax about heat, the only thing you should try keep at a stable temperature is hdd's. everything else works fine from ~5-100C.
>>109502790>i really hope gmail stops sending me to spam soonsure, soon you'll be on a global blocklist and everyone will
>>109502634newfag, go back>>109502580nearly all 'art' now is AI slop. i feel bad for doujin artists
I just found out about "nut" (Network UPS Tools) so I can run a server on my infrastructure box and tell it to shutdown various other machines (LLM experiment box, workstation, backup/VM host) in stages to preserve battery runtime for my work PC).Neat.
>https://github.com/immich-app/immichThis good?
>>109506119it's about as close as you're going to get to Google Photos but self-hosted, with an asterisk in that the devs are all-in on AI and machine-learning, and that support is of the 'breaking change, hope your 3-2-1 backup strategy works :^)' kind
>>109506298>https://docs.immich.app/features/libraries>https://docs.docker.com/desktop/settings-and-maintenance/settings/?uuid=4575E534-D457-4B72-85C1-52B5C8EA9A4C#file-sharingOk. I've set it all up. Up to the point of connecting my NAS to it. Anyone kind enough to pitch in?
>>109450883a home server? in this economy?
>>109450883That is a really good image
>>109506403Just finance it like a normal
>>109506403I haven't bought new parts for my server in probably 3 years. I dread the day I need another HDD.
HDDs are fuckin slow man
>>109507748When i got two dozen enterprise ssd's with 8000 hours and 99% health each two years ago, i got called gay and retarded herewell, who's the gay retard now?
hello, im starting to work on my home server again and bought a bluray drive a while back to rip movies and shit. But now i find out that theres some limitations and i have to install custom fw or something.A while back i had used a very old bluray drive to rip and it didnt give me any problems. Is this truly necessary?
>>109506403Self-hosted services, in most cases and under a certain number of users, can run on a sandy bridge laptop. You don't need a Dell poweredge for 95% of shit you want to run.
>>109450883Just built a server, had google gemini do everything for me.
my precious hdds
>>109506365what is the use case for AI in my photo gallery
Is DVC (data version control) a meme or does it have value over simply using Git-LFS to checkpoint your datasets?
First time setting up IP cams for home security.Never messed with PoE, not even sure how it works.Can anyone sanity-check this?I'm using Cinnado D1 cameras with Thingino firmware.
>>109511151Cuck chair.
>>109512787Only after spending 15 minutes drawing this did I ask myself "would they even work when wired?"
>>109512787>usbc to rj45nigga what
>>109511845Helpful as always /g/.
>>109509823Flashing firmware is only necessary if you want to rip 4Ks. Regular Blu-rays will work just fine with most any BD-ROM and MakeMKV.>>109512787Never heard of this chink brand, but I really would not trust ANY $10 hardware. POE stands for "power over ethernet," meaning devices that use it can have their power delivered via ethernet rather than by plugging into the wall. You need to make sure your switch can deliver enough power to however many devices you're using. Again, I would not put my and my family's security in the hands of a $10 camera. They don't even use proper English in the fucking Amazon listing, dead giveaway right there.Router -> Switch -> Devices (cameras, in your case). A quick glance at this particular camera tells me it doesn't even have ethernet ports, so POE would be worthless for you.
>>109513119other way around, sorry>>109513350This particular one seems to be recommended by the Thingino community, and has a simple no-tools install (not that I don't have a CH341A programmer, I'd just rather not have to use it.)>but I really would not trust ANY $10 hardware>I would not put my and my family's security in the hands of a $10 cameraI just used the "home security" term because I don't know what else to call it, but it's really just to see who's around our home (we occasionally get some druggies asking for stuff, but that's all)Also, where I'm importing these to, the alternatives are stupidly expensive and with no alternative firmware available, so that's a dealbreaker.>A quick glance at this particular camera tells me it doesn't even have ethernet ports, so POE would be worthless for you.I've read somewhere that I could use RJ45-to-USB-C adaptors for this, since it does have a USB-C port. And since it's basically running Linux with this modified firmware, I assume it could work.Thanks for the explanation in the rest of your post, by the way.
>>109513455bro why are you pushing poe power through some shitass adaptersget cameras with native rj45 poe support
>dns doesn't work if i set a static ip address on the device itself
>>109514634You did it wrong
>>109514959the router just sees the device under it's mac address no device on the network can ping the device via the host namethis is fucking bullshit
>>109514973Your route table is broke. If the router sees it then ARP is working but if nothing can ping it then routes are broken or you have a firewall blocking it.
>>109451614remember the>fell for the 16gb of rammeme?
>>109514986>it was the dhcp range>i set the static ip outside of iti hate networking
>>109507748I have an SSD cache for a reason.
>>109502673>Design your lab around power and noise efficiencyMost people will look at a $6 powermeter and think it's some sort of wizardry
This is undoubtedly a stupid question. My homeserver is currently at its 10GB capacity, and drive prices have increased. I'm thinking of purchasing an external drive and connecting this to either my server via USB, or the USB port on my router. Is there anything I should know compared to regular, internal HDDs? Or am I better off just spending extra for bigger internal drives?
>>109518258You could get a USB C hard drive enclosure bay that can take like five drives. I have one of them with two drives in Raid1 because I make do with what I can.It runs okay for what it is.
>>109518258You can just buy an external and shuck it.
>>109518330>>109518513Thanks. Forgot to mention the I'm at both storage capacity and the number of SATA ports in the computer. I think a cheap external for less important data might be the answer.
>>109518964Time to get your first HBA.
>>109450883i wiped the mac address off my chinesium clevo shitbox laptop like a retardi cant fucking get it to boot in legacy mode for the DOS intel utility and i cant find an eeupdate64e.efi file that fucking works with this i219vim going to fucking SHOOT MYSELF
I got an HP elitdesk mini g3 with an i5 7500, with a bunch of 2.5 external hard drives running CasaOS on an internal ssd, I give no fucks.
Hello. I have a problem. I have three 1tb external HDD drives full of jav and hentai and growing. And I don't want to lose those files. Because HDD drives just die one day without any warning. I heard about tech that if one drive dies, all the other drives can rebuild the dead drive. A more cost effective way than just getting another three 1tb external drives and copying them manually. I need to know the cheapest and convenient solution desu. Arigatou gozaimasu.
you wouldn't admit it, but this is better than running an old lsi 90xx card that inexplicably pulls 20 watts and runs at 80c without a dedicated fan for it
>>109522247none of them are convenient or easy to use, just buy more external hdds
>>109522935>inexplicablyQuite explicable, the ones you buy on ebay for $7 are at a minimum 10 years old built with 10+ (more like 15+) year old technology and design philosophy. In fact the main reason the 4 port (16i/e) versions suck so much juice is that they used to just be a pair of 2 port (8i/e) chips on one board with a plx switcher which is easily the hungriest and hottest component. Newer single chip designs cut the power and thermals by 1/2 to 2/3 of the models they replace and only cost marginally more used.
>>109522935>this is betterno it's not get a 9500-8i
What is a good docker alternative to steam-headless? It's first boot initial install something or other bullshit has apparently been broken for months now with no fix in sight. I did set up a vm and it works well enough, but that requires me to isolate my gpu so no other app can use it (on truenas) so I would prefer a docker solution to a vm if possible to keep the gpu available for transcoding and whatnot for the 98% of the time I'm not gaming. Bonus if it is simple and quick to set up instead of requiring a bachelor's degree and 7 weeks of fiddlefucking to set up and get working right.
I've had a plex server running since it basically starterd, got a cheap lifetime license when they started charging. Is there any practical reason to switch the setup to jellyfin? More performance gains, easier sharing with family members, other benefits?
>>109522247>I heard about tech that if one drive dies, all the other drives can rebuild the dead drive.Yeah, it's called RAID. In this case, you probably want RAID 5. Your 3x1 TB capacity becomes 2x1 TB capacity and the rest is for parity data.
>>109524161I use jellyseer. I can open a library that looks like netflix and click request and it automagically appears in my jellyfin when it's done downloading
>>109524232seer also works with plex though (its now the new jellyseer btw, both teams merged)
>>109515032>>it was the dhcp range>>i set the static ip outside of iti dont think this would be it as long as the static ip was still inside of the subnet
>>109523687>get a 9500-8i>$150no thanks>>109523461I have the 92xx 8i and they still run way too hot and pull too much powerpoint is, those frankenstein sata adapters do the same job and are way more efficient at it
They replaced some of those OPS pluggable computers at work and I managed to snag an old one. Got an actual i7-10700 in a socket which I didn't expect, 2x16GB sodimm sticks of ddr4, has a normal barrel jack next to the 80pin so I was able to plug it right in with a laptop power supply. No drive so I gave it a 128gb SN520 I had in the drawer. I feel compelled to make this my new NAS but I don't want to stick a SAS controller on a riser and cuck myself with a USB 2.5G ethernet adapter. Guess I have to build a 10" rack to slot it in and pretend I'll find a real use for it.
>>109524455I gave it the best and only paste I had on hand.