>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder

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fukken' RAMpocalypse

Your current GPU WILL be your last GPU.
>>109451106
9070XT if you're on a budget. 5070ti if you want comparably less compatibility problems.

Can't figure out which GPU to go for 5070 or 9070xt, they are pretty much the same price(650 euros). Or do I go for the 5070ti which is like 35% more expensive before they jump in price?

>>109451106
9070xt

>>109451264
You FOOL
>>109451275

>>109451275
windows or linux?
AMD performs better on linux because even AMD got tired of the nodrivers meme and open sourced one.

>>109451275
Do you like the idea of firing up optiscaler for your gaming hobby?

>>109451275
why would you buy 650 euro 12gb card when you can buy 16gb card?!

>>109451324
nvidia featureset?
gddr7 vs cheaper and slower gddr6 memory?
future support?
current game support for the features?
energy efficiency?

>>109451350
well you said then get rtx5070ti and play games will AI overlays and DLSS on!! remember to buy w11 pro version too

>>109451350
please buy the 9070 XT. i beg you otherwise devs will keep optimizing for nvidia and i will feel even more of an idiot for listening to this place

>>109451364
I personally wouldnt invest a penny into a gpu that cant into dlss5

>>109451300
Sorry for spamming
>>109451306
Windows
>>109451324
Is 12 gb that bad? I thought it was enough. I will be using a 1440p monitor
>>109451264
What compatibility issues? I only ever owned nvidia cards so I don't understand what you mean.

>>109451350
>>109451384
nvidia driver issues

>>109451384
works on my linux rig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3sAPLWosbc

>>109451516
oh what are those
can you link to some 2026 youtube videos talking about them

>>109451117
which online stores are best for purchasing a 5090?

whats the best 9070xt to pick up right now? like best bang for buck

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>>109451447
>Windows
Go with nvidiai, you're in for a long wait if you're waiting for the AMD/Valve collab bringing the linux driver to windows.

>>109451587
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDEJLOHcdWw

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>>109451587

>>109451664
Oh okay so if you buy nvidia you're going to sometimes experience a difficult to replicate crash in one game in a patch you specifically need to seek out.

>>109451587
every nvidia forum driver page is full of driver issues

>>109451650
Nvidia Driver Issues Avoid Nvidia.

>>109451634
Depends on where you live and are local prices. I have a Sapphire Pulse model and I'm fully satisfied, it's cool and quiet. I heard Powercolor Reaper and Hellhound are also good picks. Personally I wouldn't touch models with the housefire connector, but that's on you.

>>109451712
I mean the only one id avoid is the nitro+, havent heard too many fire cases with the taichi. plus i'd get that thermal grizzly wireview thing to try and protect against any burnouts

>>109451587
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ufqxzmiP7c

>>109451791
that thumbnail would get immediate "never rec a channel" from me on youtube so, im not gonna watch it.

its literally india tier spam about a guy asking an llm top 10 most common fixes for nvidia issues and making a video about it, so at this point Im assuming you're falseflagging trying to push people away from buying amd

>>109451847
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lENO0oWrgRQ

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Day 8 of no 5090 + 77" oled

>>109451117
Is it absolutely over for me since im on DDR4?

>>109451929
Price hikes just hit Asus too, it's over.

>>109451974
5800x3d is a tolerable cpu, ddr4 has a minor fps impact in games vs ddr5. Its more an issue if you have 16gb of ddr4 and you want to do stuff that would benefit from 32gb of ddr5 on ur pc. like local llms, demanding games

>>109451668
>WuuWaa
I can smell how brown you are.

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Thank you to the anons who recommended the xfx swift 9070 xt the other day, running great

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i'm about to buy all the parts right now (prices are australian)
cpu and ram are from aliexpress. i could go cheaper ram (chinese CUSU brand) which is the same amount/speed/etc but about $30 cheaper. to be honest I'm feeling safer with Kingston. i was almost convinced to get the Arc B580 which is almost half the price of the RX card but i'm concerned about longevity and support. it's crazy how much GPU's are going up by and i need to buy this 9060 asap because they go up in price seemingly daily. i'll need to buy a windows key too so that's more $
thoughts for 1080p gaming?

>>109451732
Highter tier GPU models don't really bring anything of value - useless factory overclock (you probably will undervolt them anyway), useless "silent/performance BIOS" switch and maybe RGB. As for the 12vhpwr: why would you choose between retarded models, babysit them and pray when you can choose between models with a normal white man's connector?

Just avoid the two 12vhpwr models and Gigabyte cards, they leak their thermal paste. The rest are fine.
Sapphire and Powercolor models (except maybe the Reaper) ship with Honeywell PTM7950, so you don't need to worry about repasting it anytime soon. Can't speak for the rest of the cards.

If you for some reason want a highter tier model: XFX Mercury > Powercolor Hellhound > Asus TUF. Between the three I would pick the Hellhound.

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>>109452167
>i'll need to buy a windows key too so that's more $

>>109452167
>i'll need to buy a windows key too so that's more $
Check https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/109366891/
>thoughts for 1080p gaming?
You could mostly get by with a 8GB VRAM card @ 1080p if you need to reduce the build cost
Follow the conversation here >>109448888

>>109452167
>i'll need to buy a windows key too so that's more
You can get one for like 4$ USD.

Are MSI Aegis Prebuilts good? What about Alienware Area 51 Prebuilts? I'm seeing good deals for them where I live. How upgradable are they?

>>109452191
yeah i dunno how to get free windows lel
>>109452210
ty anon i will check that out
the 8gb variant is less than $100 compared to the 16gb. the way i see it, for every part in this pc the jump to 16gb card is the biggest price to performance difference. like i could also get the 5500x3d over the 5600x but it's a ~$70 price increase for hardly any performance difference, as far as I can tell

>>109452240
I'd assume MSI prebuilts have the better upgradeability if they're using standard boards & PSUs.

>>109452219
how? does that work outside of the U.S?

>>109452186
oh so the silent/performance switches dont really do anything? also I was leaning more toward the Pulse models anyway

>>109451975
still same as before here 6k burgerbugs eutaxvat

>>109451929
Day 1 of no 6090 and 52 core Nova Lake.

>>109452272
There are people that salvage OEM keys from motherboards that are in pre builts that get throw away.

I've gotten 4 Windows 11 Home keys from this site.
https://www.premiumcdkeys.com/en-us

There are tons of other sites just like that one if you google around.

>>109452060
>recognizes it from that
anon…

>>109452552
lmao based. i can get a key for $7 AUD
ty bro

>>109452167
looks good
personally id go for the 5700X3D if you can find one at a good price. games are becoming more cpu bound and while a 5600x is *fine*, you will see big performance boosts with the X3D

>>109452630
>AUD
What are you doing building a PC? You should be in the outback boxing kangaroos and wrestling stingrays.

Fellas.
I got a shituation.
My mother and sister have handed me an old prebuilt and told me to update it and get it set up for my nephew. I also have some spare parts.

Currently build:
CPU: Dunno, something Intel from the 2010s.
Motherboard: Asrock H110M-DGS
GPU: GTX 1060
RAM: 16GB DDR4, Teamgroup 2x8GB kit, 2400MHz.
PSU: KOLINK KL-600
CASE: Some awful prebuilt custom job. Bad airflow, needs replacing.
Other bits: Has some terrible 120mm AIO. Grimy as hell. Has a HDD and a SATA SSD.

Spare parts I have:
CPU: PRO 5650GE
GPU: 1080 Ti

Needs Wifi in some capacity.

My thought is just to get a cheap case, a B550 motherboard and a cheap CPU cooler and it's good to go. Maybe a new PSU. Should be a couple hundred quid in the UK.

>>109452167
$600 for a 9060 XT, You'll regret that anon

>>109452944
Seems like a good plan, the nephew got lucky with that DDR4 kit.
These two boards have integrated WiFi cards.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/HwcBD3/gigabyte-b550m-ds3h-ac-r2-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-ds3h-ac-r2
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/PDsnTW/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi

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>>109452976
He's an Aussie, it's not too bad in USD.

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5070TiSuper surely ~1500€ haha right, b-bros?

>>109453010
Well how much is the gddr7 spot pricing now
I guess the pricing peaks at around 5x per gb vs the 2gb module pricing during 2025

>>109452976
there is no alternative for gpu's unless i drop to the 8gb, which is only $100 cheaper, or going for the Arc B580 which is like half the price? maybe that's worth it? 12gb isn't bad but i have no idea what intel cards will be like in 2 years or even 5 years down the road
the 5060ti is $200 more than the 9060 xt

>>109453010
law: nvidia never does anything nice
law: amd never does anything nice
law: intel never does anything nice

tattoo that to your girlfriend's boobs.

hmm. i cant help but notice the lack of a blackwell 6000 and 9950x3d2 in the OP.

>>109452254
>yeah i dunno how to get free windows lel
https://massgrave.dev/
Step by step guide to activate Windows, just install a free Windows 11 iso from the official Microsoft website. Or you could just switch the Linux already nigger

>>109453119
Well it depends on what do you want to do with the card, But at those prices you should get arc b580, Intel drivers will always have decent support because share the same stack as their XESS IGPU's which literally power more gaming devices even if they are laptop that the totallity of RDNA 4 GPU's AMD has sold

>>109452995
nevermind then

>>109451264
behead all doomnigger demoralization faggots.

>>109451384
>dude fake frames, you dont want to miss out on fake frames dude

>>109453791
I like graphics that move away from current garbage techniques that havent been significantly improved since half life 2

>>109453791
You know all frames are fake, right?

>>109453610
tarkov doesn't work with linux because of the anti cheat or some gay shit

>>109453722
1080p gaymen. poe 2, tarkov, warhammer3 tw, dota 2, elden ring etc. potentially 1440p but probably not idc about resolution, i just want stable 60fps at reasonable settings.
maybe i will consider the arc card then

THAT'S IT

I'M VIBECODING A GPU

>>109453801
>fake frames
>improvement

>>109453843
>NOOOO you must use this other fake frames that look worse because they are true FAKE FRAMES

>>109453854
the mind of an ai nigger is truly fascinating. the frames were never real to begin with. humans are also just token predictors too amirite?

>>109453881
Anon i know this may surprise you but fake rendering techniques existed before AI. SSR are literally AI, they just ask your computer to do some math the using the color and depth data already visible on the screen to fake lighting. these fucking Tessellation shaders man i want my polygons and triangle being real nothign of this fake AI shit said the caveman playing open gl games in the 2000s

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>>109453541

The way you can tell someone is just shitposting is seeing if they try to defend SSR in games as a desirable visual technique.

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>>109451117
What do you guys think about pc condoms for dusty environments like pic related?

>>109453919
applying algorithms to existing math (sampling a depth buffer to calculate reflections) is VASTLY different from generating entirely new intermediate synthetic frames. if this is actually your argument for frames never being real it is incredibly disingenuous.

>>109453978
I hope you like thermal throttling.

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>>109453978

>>109454018
>>109454020
Companies that make computers with built in filters that don't have the LGBT lights on them?

>>109454040
Fractal Design

>>109454002
NTA, the synthetic frames are just sampled from the existing frames. It doesn't even look too horrible with MFA.
Even DLSS is just TAA these days instead of actual AI upscaling.

>>109454040
Lian Li

>>109454056
Dammit , those motion vectors i cant belive they were also AI all along. WE MUST RETURN to my TRUE FAKE FRAMES

>>109454044
I'm looking though the options, do they all have filters or is it only specific lines that have the filters? I have a Micro atx form factor and the only ones I can see that can fit the board are the Pop Mini Air, Define 7 Mini, and the Node 804.
>>109454065
Can I trust Taiwan? It's too close to china for my liking, no offense, not that I'm trying to bring up politics either but I'm always very wary of Chinese electroncis.

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>>109454158
everything in your pc is made in china/taiwan

>>109454158
>Can I trust Taiwan?
It's a PC case, it's well trusted brand and has a solid track record, it's own by many, sooner or later some reviewer would have discovered that there is something wrong with it.

Are Intel CPUs actually better than AMD CPUs for everything except 1080p video games?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeNKLliMkks

>>109454264
it varies on the workload. some things are optimized for intel and viceversa for amd.

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so much for "budget"
suppose it still is but i landed on the gaming version of the cpu for longevity
already ordered the rest of the parts
wish me luck bros

>>109454326
you're order a new am4 system in 2026?
why
7800x3d is cheaper than 5800x3d lmao

>>109454056
>>109454085
are you niggers really trying to argue that post processing is the same as frame generation? seriously nigger?

>>109454359
32gb ddr5 ram is like triple the cost of what i have there lmao

>>109454158
I'm asking Gemini your question and I've narrowed it down to the Meshify 2 (not compact) and the Define 7 (standard).

>>109454359
also those 2 cpu's are the exact same price here

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>>109454359
this is the best i could do with am5
after seeing the price i'm tempted to just be content with >>109452167
$500 difference for video games is pretty substantial

>>109454462
Im not sure of your income levels but am5 makes more sense as a new system. 5800x3d is for people who already own an am4 system
but if you spend so much on ram then you should also be buying a 9070 xt at minimum

you can half ass it and buy 1 stick 16gb ddr5 and buy another later hopefully at 50% lower prices in the year 2032, but windows eats up like 6gb ram by default so

>>109454462
>>109454363
Can you not look on facebook and find a decent deal on RAM? I've bought multiple 32GB DDR5 kits of RAM on facebook.

>>109454526
my income level is good, i have quite a bit of disposable income but i cannot reasonably justify this amount of money to simply play computer games. especially given the current market of hardware
9070 xt at a minimum for what exactly? i'm on 1080p lul. its like saying "yeah you need a twin turbo v8 super car as your daily drive to get around to the shops bro it's a must what if speed limits increase in the future???"

>>109454572
Buying the better gpu you increase total system price by 10% and you 50% more fps
that kinda logic

ofc you'd want a 4k qd oled monitor with that gpu but you know

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>>109454603
DONT FALL FOR THE OLED MEME AUSSIE ANON

>>109454603
again, 1080p. i can hit 60fps with the arc b580 lol
maybe im in the wrong place. i'm not an enthusiast anymore, i just want to do some map farming in poe 2 and not have it slow to a crawl

>>109454613
OOO EEE OOO
Where are people finding these fire Miku wallpapers?

>>109454646
You get same advice as anyone else across the internet
1080p in the era of upscalers is kinda redundant
high perf oled monitors are affordable

limiting urself is an arbitrary you problem

>>109454666
no it's not. 1080p allows you to play every game for cheap, and it looks fine and works. Especially in a desktop situation where you are like 30 inches from the screen tops.

>>109454646
please buy the 9070 xt

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>>109454663
Google / Wallpaper Engine

>>109454663
That's Keqing

>>109454698
>just drop $1000 on a gpu
no

>>109454326
Any reason why you're not shopping for 2nd hand parts?

>>109454727
what 2nd hand parts? the market has been BTFO by faggots trying to flog off ~5 year old hardware at a premium because prices have gone up for everything. 4 year old RTX 3070 for $500? get fucked

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>>109454646
1440p unironically makes it better because you aren't bottlenecked by cpu. I have 220 hideout fps and in busy maps it's still around 80-60. You are not getting a stable framerate out of poe2 btw. Ever.

>>109454613
imo their eyes are too big in both of them.

>>109454717
Yeah, Miku, its why people avoid that kind of twin tail blue hair style unless they are evoking Miku explicitly because everyone just says "omg it migu" when they see her, they do it to Twin Turbo in Umamusume all the time.

>>109454719
:(

It's $1k?

>>109454770
its australia fake money

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>>109454775
sucks man but at least you can deep fry a cow for half the money

>>109454766
Genshin Miku is Faruzan, not KQ

>>109454759
at 1080p your eye rape maps would get 100+ fps easily

>>109454790
Geshin has two Mikus? I might need to start playing then.

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>>109454801
They pale in comparison to the real mikus

>>109454795
Not with a ryzen 5600

>>109454717
no dat migu

>>109454759
neat, did you vibecode it?

I'm still on the 3700x b450 build I posted about here 6 years ago. Upgraded to 2x32 ddr4 from the 16gb kit. upgraded to a 4060ti. Overall, before the AI bullshit, there was ethereum bullshit. PC gaming is retarded. PC building is retarded. Whenever this shit dies, I'm priced out of this "hobby". I'll get a macbook by beating up and robbing a female college student.

>>109454918
Nah you might get locked out with the apple id and the location data would be sent to the police

>>109454717
She is the 4th anticipation of the Mikunning!

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>tfw you missed out on cheap ram

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>5800X3D/motherboard/32GB DDR4 is $600-$675 dependong on motherboard and exact RAM kit
>can get a Ryzen 1st gen CPU and motherboard combo for $100 on eBay, 32GB DDR4 for $150 on eBay, Flash BIOS on B350 motherboard to support a brand nw 5800X3D 10A edition - $500
>Cheapest option, but suffer from possibility of hardware failure (especially motherboard) with no warranty.
>9850X3D/motherboard/32GB DDR5/ is $1000 at microcenter for a bundle

Am I stupid in thinking I should just buy the newer bundle, increased price aside? The performance of this would last me longer I would think. I'm looking to pair this with a 9070 XT and play at 1440p. I don't want to deal with Nvidia and their 12v HPWR cable

Whats the best miniled around? I wanna see if it's in my budget

>>109455022
A 5800x3d is essentially not worth it if you're buying a whole system. A ryzen 9600 costs $170 new and beats/matches it in gaming, and then you can drop in a 10800x3d or 11800x3d later on, I doubt you're going to save more than $100 by going AM4.

>>109455022
usecase for 9850x3d over 7800x3d?

>>109455072
Yeah that's what I figured. Shame. If I'm going AM5, might as well just go with an X3D chipset off the rip instead of buying low and buying high later
>>109455077
I figured if I'm going AM5 with longevity in mind, would it not make sense to get the best gaming CPU on the platform.

>9850X3D combo is $1000 with X870-e motherboard
>9800X3D combo is $930 with a regular X870 motherbaord
>7800X3D combo is $770 with the same regular X870

>>109455056
Theres a question mark around the new rgb miniled where red green and blue and controlled separately instead of having pure white miniled zones.
theyre like <1500€ but questionable if their benefits in color purity outweight the negatives

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>used crucial t705 4TB for 420$
Am I gonna get gutted and sold for organs if I go pick it up? This sounds too good.

>>109455139
Did they post usage statistics

>>109455139
depends on how used it is. As for the SMART data

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>>109455170
>anime fag
run away

>>109455170
>it's a fucking weeb
you'll be fine. Even if they're armed, it's probably a katana they got from Amazon and have no idea how to use without cutting themselves.

>>109455185
desu the shizuku crystaldisk is a mark of a real nigga and i'm more inclined to believe it

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>>109454995
You can get free ram if you are lucky to find an extra ram cd at your local charity shop

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>>109455170
heres my newish drive
its a bit odd that thing says weird things about power on hours, was the data wiped
temps are low for a drive in use

>>109455135
>questionable if their benefits in color purity outweight the negatives
Damn, we're going backwards in display tech, the new woleds have green tint and minileds now have issues too, what the fuck are we supposed to buy?

Besides more ports, whats the benefit of buying an expensive mobo vs a less expensive one?

>>109455313
https://videocardz.com/newz/hkc-unveils-worlds-first-31-4-inch-rgb-miniled-monitor-with-4788-dimming-zones

look out for those

>>109455262
>temps are low for a drive in use
My server has two NVMes that are at 30°C and 35°C. The computer that I'm currently writing this on has its SSD at 33°C.

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>>109455346
>count each rgb sub led as a single zone
>4800 zones is actually 1600 zones
what blatant scam marketing

>>109455345
It's not just more ports, it's better ports. Higher USB standards (faster), some motherboards have thunderbolt. Better NIC (2.5GBe/5GBe/10GBe/). Then there's also more M.2 ports, more PCIe lanes from assuming you're talking something like AMD A or B series vs X870-E. Lastly is VRMs. Both Quantity and quality, more SATA, some baord have better placement of some ports for more efficient wire routing.
>>109455262
>>109455387
30 to 60C is the sweet spot for NVME. NVME NAND actually last longer and runs more efficient when warm. The SSD controller on the SSD itself is what suffers most from heat.

>>109455403
it depends on the outlet
vidocardz ranks highly on google because seo and seo doesnt correlate with quality

>>109455346
From where can you actually buy hkc monitors in North America? I can't find any listings on the standard stores

>>109455439
You'll have to wait maybe half a year for the NA release.

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>>109455451
>>109455439

I just know Nvidia is going to finally release the supers, the moment I buy a 5080.

>>109455534
>buying a 5070ti with a wrong label

>>109455345
DDR5-8000

>>109455345
Cheap boards offer everything you need these days
10+ years ago, cheap boards would throttle your CPU because of their lackluster power delivery which lost you performance

>>109455604
>10+ years ago, cheap boards would throttle your CPU because of their lackluster power delivery which lost you performance
depending on how cheap a motherboard and how heavy of a CPU you're using, you can still have that occur. I.e. an A620 motherboard with meh VRMs and no VRM heatsinks to push a 9800X3D, you can possibly thermal throttle the VRMs, dropping clocks. But yeah, cheaper motherboards usually do the job. In my personal opinion, it's worth getting at least middle of the road though like a B series if we're talking AMD still. I noticed the AMD chipset/traces on really cheap boards are prone to feedback and whining.

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Microcenter selling pic related. Good deal? I have an i9-10900k build with an RTX 2080 Ti. Been looking to upgrade.

>>109454526
>its going to take 6 years for ram to crash
why do you faggots post nonsense like this?

>>109455657
If you don't want AMD then yes, otherwise you can get a 9070xt for $50 more.

>>109451117
I got the MSI Pro Max 271UPXW12G: https://us.msi.com/Business-Productivity-Monitor/PRO-MAX-271UPXW12G
It uses a 4th gen Samsung penta tandem qd-oled 4k 27" panel with some coatings to make the blacks more black, more anti reflective, and increase the panel hardness. I heard qd-oleds supposedly have bad text fringing but I'm having a hard time detecting it.

>>109456294
I recall it's more noticeable on 27" 1440p than 4k but even on my 1440p tandem WOLED it's only slightly worse than IPS in dark mode.

>>109455657
rx9070 is better. you can flash those with a 9070xt bios to unlock 15-25% performance

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dFVyxf

I think I'm ready. Will be a little cheaper than listed due to buying everything at Microcenter.

>>109457253
all that and you cheap out on the cooler

>>109457267
I did a good bit of research on all the parts. That cooler was recommended a lot of places. It was either that or the Noctua NH-D15.

>>109457277
sure its a fine cooler for a budget build
whats the point of getting a 7000D if you don't put a 480mm rad in it

>>109457253
The air cooler will struggle to cool that 2CCU chip.

>>109457289
Never occurred to me to get more cooling than provided by the CPU cooler and case fans. Necessary? The case was actually the hardest part for me. Wanted one nice and spacious, with no glass panels or tacky designs. The ideal case for me is just a plain black box that's sturdy with plenty of room. After looking through a lot of cases and discovering that no glass is a rarity, it came down to the 7000D Airflow or the Define 7 XL by Fractal Design. Everything I read said the Corsair had better airflow, so I'm thinking about settling on that one.

>>109457372
Will it? Is it a matter of just adding more fans? I really don't want water cooling.

>>109457388
your 12v2x6 is more likely to jump the ship than an AIO

>>109457388
>I really don't want water cooling
Higher end chips expect it.

>>109457277
that cooler has fans that rattle/whine
if you want peace of mind, you get a noctua d15 g2

>>109457253
that psu is only atx3.0 and has a non-standard 3x3 plug at the psu side
i'd recommend looking for something else that's atx3.1 to reduce issues of anything happening

>>109451117
>>109443378
>sideways
why do phone cameras do this

>>109457417
The Noctua was the competition when I was putting everything together. Could just go with that one.

>>109457454
See, this is why I like these threads. I'm ignorant of a lot of modern PC stuff. Something like this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q98Pxr/corsair-hx1500i-2025-1500-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020309-na

Ryzen 7 7800X3D with a 9060 xt 16gb. yay or nay? I might just get the 9600x and call it a day

>burn in is no longer an issue they said

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ9W34Gpg8s

>>109457470
4chan strips exif information

Really want to upgrade my rx6700xt to 9070xt but the piss poor performance on 3d stuff makes me not want to but really dont want to give any money to nvidia at this point. Can amd finally get their shit together with 3d already?

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>>109457506
>Something like this?
Look for psus that have picrel and are specced for atx3.1. Some older psus have the older variant of this connector and are only rated for atx3.0

>>109451264
in reality you don't need more than a 1080TI

>>109457594
modular power supplies just add more contact points for overheating and load, gimmicks

>>109457606
you're 20 years too late to this argument

>>109457606
enjoy having a bundle of unused shit in your case

>>109457606
Enjoy your loud coil whine with the astral when using the adapter lmao. You also need 4x8 Pins for it

>>109457613
still true, I have a 1350 watt PSU that avoided this shit thanfully and a bunch of 650s and 500s. I'd rather replace fans in them than use modular especially with high load 4090s or firehazzard 5090s, 80s etc. If you want an AI card (just about the only excuse for a 5090) get an RTX pro 4000 instead.

>>109457625
Does into spare 5.25 drive pay unless you are into retarded fish tank argb led cases and a spastic without even an optical drive

nevermind, you are just larping as a boomer

>>109457574
The difference between the rx6700xt and the 9070xt is about a doubling of frame rates.

>>109457634
>>109457634
>coil whine
using pcs for 30 years and really don't give a shit or have ever heard it once you hypoercondriav nonsense spewer, enjoy your gimmick induced fires

>>109457667
The astral will very likely coil whine anyway unless I got a bad one but a native 12v cable is quieter than the adapter at least with the PSU I tried.

>>109457646
>optical drive
look at grampa over there with his physical media
if you really want an optical drive, get an external.

>>109457694
what the fuck are you on about
>>109457694
>The astral
look at all the shits I don't give about something I don;t care about

by design modular power supllies add more contacts to overheat and are fucking stupid, simple as.

>>109457695
>get an external
this is the way. I have an old 5.25" internal blu ray burn from my previous build sitting on my desk hooked up to a UASP dongle. cost me practically nothing.

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>>109457639
>has high powered psu
>can't use it with high powered parts
seems completely pointless to buy that psu desu

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Buy Powercolor

>>109457695
My? I can use a case like a collermaster n600 odd

fuck off zoomer retard stick your fairylighgts and fire hazzard movular dumb as fuck gpus up your ass and burn your house down makes no difference to me

>>109457729
I am in my 40s.
You're the boomer retard.

>>109457721
multiple gpus
duh

>>109457734
new to PCs though? 2010 faggot youtube watercooled gaymer detected

>>109457734
fact
modular psus add more connectors to overheat and are retarded
it really really is that simple.
form over function bullshit

>>109457743
My first computer was a 486.

>>109457755
mine was a zx81, piss off I'mm bet it was a sx as well no class unlike a 386dx and your fathers property does not count

>>109457760
True, my father bought home from work an Apple ][+ and an 8086 with a CGA graphics adapter. I learned programming in BASIC and assembly on the apple 2.

>>109457753
sorry to enlighten you like this, but the world has moved on

>>109457735
mgpu 3090s? a single 5070ti uses 1/2 the watts and outperforms one 3090 and a 4090 will still beat the sli'd 3090s at 2/3 the power

are there even non-modular atx 3.1 PSUs? If you push the new 12VHPWR cable to its limit you will likely have to replace it every few years. Kinda sucks if it's attached to the PSU

>109457735
nobody tell him that nvidia stopped shipping new sli profiles for games ages ago

>>109457819
>for gaymes
yeah...

>>109457794
physics and electrical engineering stays the same

>>109457753
>modular psus add more connectors to overheat and are retarded
>it really really is that simple.
>form over function bullshit

>>109457819
guess what crap like lmstudio and cuda uses multiple gpus fine
try again

>>109457905
>2011+15
>implying modular psus are form over function
el ol el. if you burn out a cable would rather replace the cable or the entire psu

>>109457916
lol fuck off

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when will amd release a better gpu? 2028? I need a better gpu NOW

>>109457990
By the end of 2027 like the leaks are saying
But amd are always looking for new ways to fuck it up so I wouldn't hold my breath on them following through with that

What is more retro, the AMD PRO A12-9800 or an old AMD Ryzen 3 CPU?

>>109457663
40% but 9070xt also has fsr4 and slight edge on some ai stuff but mainly cause of the extra 4gb of vram.

>>109457760
>>109457778
my first had an 800mhz duron :)

>>109451117
I got a 24gb 7900xtx after nvidia didn't release the 50-supers this year, upgraded from a 2080. I wanted something for VR wabbajack modlists after being limited by 8gb for so long. I wanted a 5080 super, but settled as It seemed like the last chance for a while to get 20+gb vram. Honestly it was a horrible experience having to troubleshoot all the fucking amd driver issues but mostly all sorted now.

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SSDs cost more than double what they cost a year ago
I'm going to fucking kill my'reself

>>109457797
>Kinda sucks if it's attached to the PSU
Good PSUs usually come with 10 or 12 year warranties, and these units are designed to run @ full load for years.
Most people will just have to replace the cable a few times unless they're a paranoid idiot who regularly reconnects both sides of the 12+4 cable (set the cable right during initial build).

>>109458180
I avoided buying ssds multple times because I dont have a desktop and could slot it in my laptop in the meantime though
avoided 99 bux 2tb 980 pro
avoided 199 bux 4tb kc3000 cause double sided
avoided 299 bux 9100 pro because didnt need it
avoided 99 bux 64gb ddr5 6400c32 last summer this exact same time on sale
avoided 2.5k msrp 5090 fe, now 6k in eu
is it over? yep its over
thees are just the deals i remember

>>109458192
It's not a given that the cable has a good balance from the beginning and there is a certain wear and tear. Even the cable placement can influence the ampere. Sure if you want to remove the whole PSU every time but for a 600w GPU I'd never get a non modular

>>109458207
a full 5090 build with like 4-8tb ssd would have been 4k now it's 6k but with half or one quarter the ssds so kind of still not bad
soon to be 9k after the new builds are made
im doubling down hypercoping until 6090 or ddr6 and camm2
we need a reset

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>>109457388
>7000D Airflow
looks pretty good, didn't know about this one... no optical drive bay though...

I really like the HAF II 500 front grill design and the engineered focus on cooling- but I need a case with an optical drive and would prefer without a window, any recommendations for cool looking cases that match this criteria?

>>109458207
Damn nigga

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>>109458091
9070xt is 2.06x as fast as the 6700xt in raw performance without counting upscaling cope

>>109458207
>9100 pro
+4tb

4tb nv3 been 199 a few times too

>>109458266
things were cheap now its over
i shouldve builded
but now i cope with 6090 being better anyway
bad thing we will still be on ddr5 and inflated ssd prices
its over still
im finna klarnamaxxing

>>109458207
Can't lose if you never buy

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Should I buy an X870 motherboard and not wait for what X970 might offer?

>>109458301
seeing your life go by in real time while nothing is being raytraced is losing by definition
you are not partaking in the latest greatest goyslop media and missing the peak technological gaming innovations
you are literally gatekept and not expericing life

>>109458307
I'm just in eternal wait mode since Asus doesn't want to make a white x870e apex refresh board

I don't see the point of dual mode monitors. If you have a 27" 4k screen, the pixel density is too high and you'll need to increase the OS display scaling. At the same time, 27" 1080p looks horrible. Even for esports fps, 27" is considered too big a screen. It's the worst of both worlds.

>>109458307
is that rumor even true? It's based on biostar wanting to show off the next gen AMD chipsets at computex but this was a month ago

>>109458329
so don't use it

>>109458307
same chipset, but I guess you can get cudimm support if you want to pay even more for memory

>>109458329
>If you have a 27" 4k screen, the pixel density is too high and you'll need to increase the OS display scaling
nothing to do with dual mode, just makes things looking better, your point here?
>27" 1080p looks horrible
yeah
>Even for esports fps, 27" is considered too big a screen.
distance to screen
>It's the worst of both worlds.
distance to screen + 24" etc emulation modes (higher res than native screen at same size btw) + not being able to render the native refresh rate at the max hz because shit controllers and bandwidths currently

do you understand what this means

>>109455657
oh man.

12gb :(

>>109458142
Windows issues*
Not driver issues
Blame WDDM subsystem

>>109458337
As this point it doesn't matter if it's true.
The PCB costs that are being reported may not even affect mobo vendors. (They use relatively low layer counts)
If it does affect them, it might not even be a consequential amount. (PCB might be cheap compared to components/assembly/QC)
It might be actually true and be a substantial cost difference.

Regardless of what's true however it WILL be an excuse to raise prices and people WILL defend the decision with their lives despite them having no stake in any of these Taiwanese companies.

Is there anything wrong with this OTHER THAN it uses DDR4? (and windows 11)
https://www.umart.com.au/product/g5-ryzen-5-5600-geforce-rtx-5050-gaming-pc-powered-by-asus-59935-92005

>>109451275
The 5070 has 5% more memory bandwidth than a 9070xt, it’s almost margin of error difference and I’d rather have a faster card with more memory.

>>109458343
They wont put cudimm and dd5 slots on motherboards at the same time because there's no space for it. And they won't replace ddr5 with cudimm because the boards would be doa - cudimm is a pretty exotic memory format even now.

>>109458819
i think you mean camm2? cudimm is just a slightly different variant of regular udimms with an extra reclocking chip to improve signal quality

>>109458775
It's going to have the worst possible RAM, but at least it'll be dual channel (2 sticks).

>>109458819
CUdimms are just regular dimms with an additional chip on the RAM that allows it to clock higher and be more stable.

>>109458948
I have the RAM in my current pc to mitigate that

>>109458904
>>109458819
DDR6 will be camm only so it'll stop being exotic next gen and be the standard.

>>109453978
It’s honestly perfect, all you need is an air tube from the outside with a Hepa filter at the end of it.

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>>109457925
Nice argbs brainlet faggot

>>109458291
Can it do 3D tho?

How’s this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HGGLrG

>>109459675
>using windows
>PAYING for windows
use the money you save on that and bump to a 9070

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>>109454613
>>109454717

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>things are allegedly as bad as ever
>blaxx are buying 5090's
did they find out the klarna hack?
wait until they find out that hardware is a better investment than buying 100000 pieces of rubber china sneakers that will disintegrate into shit after a few years
sheeeeeeet

if you can't afford a 5090 but a blaxx can what does that say about you in todays day and age? it's over

>>109459693
I’ll pirate windows, it’s all I know. You think the 9070 is $200 better than the 9060

>>109451264
>3090

I could've done worse

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How do we feel about G.Skill RAM?

>>109451117
https://www.msi.com/news/detail/MSI-Unveils-the-PRO-MAX-OLED-271UPJW12--The-World-s-First-27-Inch-4K-120Hz-IJP-OLED-Monitor-149512
Has anyone seen this? I'm trying to decide whether I should wait for this or just go for the pent-tandem QD-OLED one.

>>109459838
>120hz
worse than even 165hz oled tvs
>IJP
won't beat qdoled in colors because no quantum dots

hdr500 so it will be brighter than the new rgb woleds I guess and maybe around same or higher color saturation

it will have better text with the rgb pixels but 120hz and worse brightness and colors than qdoled?

you could even just buy the rgb woled 240hz in this case

and next year 4k360 vstripe qdoled will just triple ass rape it

>>109459717
>if you can't afford a 5090 but a blaxx can
they're probably using installed payments and you mentioned klarna so it's possible
anybody have the image of the pizza takeout being cut to pieces with an installment plan? that's a fucking canary in the coal mine that we're in for more circus clown shit

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>>109459838
just saw this in the article most interesting thing yet
msi are finally not retarded?
only one problem, they could have just ran pixel refreshes on monitor off instead of a fucking counter if they cared

>>109459717
They'll just stop paying if they run out of money, they just want Thing™. They don't care how they get it.

>>109459838
wait
https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/msi-unveils-the-worlds-first-inkjet-printed-27-inch-4k-120hz-oled-monitor/

tcl ijp is qdoled?

it might be good then, only downside is 120hz

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how good is a 5060 TI 16gb for 1440p gayming? (assuming i use dlss 4 or whatever)


and


how bad are VA monitors really? i bought one and then realized it was VA, i can still return it but are they really that bad? i just play single player stuff and marvel rivals

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the 5070ti is more expensive than the 5080 on amazon

>>109460117
play a game of your choice and check if you can notice any sort of ghosting and decide yourself. VA used to have pretty bad response times.

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>>109460117
if you wanna enjoy black smear and gamma shift your entire life than fine
if not, then not

>>109460140
Hopefully the inevitable federal government bailout of the AI industry will fix this.

>>109460117
>how good is a 5060 TI 16gb for 1440p gayming?
Generally fine if you're willing to adjust settings, it depends on the games you play.

>>109458253
Unfortunately for guys like us, optical drives are on their way out. You can't even find a Blu-ray drive these days. I have one in my current computer that I use for ripping discs to HDD, but it can't do 4K. If you want one that can you'll pay through the nose - expect about $500 to cover the cost of a QUALITY Pioneer drive, plus getting a guy to flash the firmware. Sick fucking world we're living in.

>>109458253
>>109460201
Meant to add that your other option is to buy an external enclosure.

https://a.co/d/085jyjAO

>>109460117
I also bought one a couple of months ago. I still love it. I haven't noticed anything wrong with it while gaming. Maybe I'm blind or something.

>>109460161
Cope.
This, like "OLED burn in so bad!!!" is just cope.
I've had severe ghosting on 2/4 IPS screens. No visible burn in on 4/4 OLEDs and no problems on 1/1 VAs.
I have ran my OLED 24/7, mostly on a static screen for a year now.

It's cope for worse, budget tech like TFT and IPS and it's fine if you don't wanna spend on a better display, but this FUD is nonsense still.

new agesa update for my msi b550 but my asrock b550 doesn't get new updates in a long time
asrock needs to clean up their act

>>109460270
buy any random va and it will be a milion times worse than random budget ips
why are you recommending va
verified certified inherent to the technology
its the worst slowest response variant
it cant be a cope its literally reality

>>109460330
they're afraid of putting out updates and getting other waves of complaints about dead chips

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>>109460201
I have that top end pioneer burner with libredrive enabled in an enclosure second to the left under the monitor stand.

>>109460212
Don't recommend that dogshit enclosure; it kills drives. Only the owc mercury one is good.

>>109460470
absurdly based laptop

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Playing around with fan control I realized my 12 year old fractal case fan is quieter than my NF-A14 140mm PWM at equal rpm

not something I expected, and it's by quite a margin. The noctua fan makes quite a bit more noise at 1000rpm than the fractal one. Of course I run them at half that but still

>>109460369
Because mine, after 2 years, does not have any of these problems. It is however wonderful at 4k 144hz 1000nits.IPS wouldnt be able to produce such nice contrast but it would also cost more to get at the same brightness.

Look, it's fine if you are happy with a budget ips. I dont think I can go back now because I've gotten used to better looking screens. Outside of the 2/4 IPS heavy burn in "ghosting" screens, I also had one completely fail just outside warranty. So even if my VA or OLED had a catastrophic issue I'd probably go with the same tech again just because it looks so much better

>>109460531
>va miniled
could have just bought oled at that point
all the reviews ive seen of va minileds they also have smear
blooming dimming sloppy slop

>I have not seen
>I am used to
you adapt to what slop you are used to seeing
as you got adapted to VA slop now

it's all irrelevnat what slop of lcd you are defending it's all sloppy slop

>>109459838
Just go for the QD-OLED monitor. Never invest in the 1st generation of new tech.

>>109460755
if you check the news articles it says its qdoled 4th gen? >>>>>> >>109460056

I thought IJP was a diff tech before but idk

>>109460330
AM4 updates are pretty much done except for security updates. Only AM5 is getting performance changes.

>>109460805
IJP-OLED is not QD-OLED

I need to buy a mobo for 7500f, what to get? should I still avoid asrock as OP says or would ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 be good?

>>109459836
Take it or leave it nothing special but not bad etiher

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>>109460862
thats what i thought but check the spec sheet image like I said

do you see ?