baking the thread on a Friday night at 10pm editionPrevious >>109474747 (CHECK EM)
>>109491474>10pmgood morning sir
By what age should you make cvp or equivalent to not be a failure? 35?
I HATE CELL MODEMSI HATE CELL MODEMSI HATE CELL MODEMSI HATE CELL MODEMS
I hate obese managersI hate being ignored by womenI hate being boredI hate making PowerPoint slides each weekI hate birdsI hate smelling piss and weed everywhereI hate hating things
>>109491656what did birds ever do to you nigga?
>>109491692Brown people hate birds because they have holes in their roofs so the birds get in while they eat and shit all over them
>>109491656You should quit your job and move somewhere else.
>STRINGS MUST BE SINGLE-QUOTE
>>109491954Yes they must be. Go program in Rust or something if you don't like single-quotes, tranny.
>they didnt send my payment yet
>said "master" instead of "main" in front of the black interviewer
is the reason why icant find a job the fact that i dont have a pfp on linkdin??i don't wanna upload my face to the mossad platform but is it REALLY the reason why i couldn't get a single interview?my resume is pretty good i think....
>>109492122All my public personal projects use master branch. I also use master/slave terminology for networking. So far I have never been bothered by HR at a job.
My experience:>Writing Java Spring at Oracle The company's stack:>Java Spring>Legacy C# .NET>Legacy Angular>JS ReactWhat I am doing:>Legacy Angular (Node 10)
>>109492178I work at Microsoft and I only log on like once a day tops. They're doing something wrong
My experience:>Maintaining a small startup SaaS thing that makes marketplaces for clients (sites where there are products and people can post shit to buy/sell)Stack:>Backend is Flask with Postgres (SQLA)>Frontend is React with custom SSR frankensteined with Express and Webpack>There is a WordPress in there as well for a blogHow fucked am I with finding a job if I lose this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mh0vism1c4on loop while working
if I become a glowie is that going to make me unemployable in the private sector ever again
>>109492378No. Nothing will secure your future anymore.
I wish the worst on goynkedin
>>109492423No i mean will becoming a glowie give the HR roasties the 'ick if I try to apply to work in the private sector later
>>109491692NTA but I hate these fuckers. They did shit fests on my balcony a lot of times
>>109492437It won't give you the ick anon but it won't make you more employable than your peers.
How bad is life in India for them to work 16hrs a day?I'm logging off at 5pm UK time and I'm still seeing them raising PRs
>>109492503Imagine if (you) were surrounded by 1,476,625,575 Indians
>>109492217Angular got so much better in recent years. Signals have completely replaced the need for ngOnChanges and other autistic change detection hotfixes.
>>109492469This I fucking hate birds it's weird that we even tolerate them
>>109492503More people equals more competition. 1.5 billion equals a shit quality of life.
>>109492503Dystopian Sci-Fi worlds has better quality of life than anything India, Pakistan, or Bangladesh ever produced.
>>109492546>Angular got so much better in recent yearsYeah but I'm doing Angular 7 (2018). That "so much better" is modern Angular not the framework I'm bumbling my way through.
>>109492503India is hot and incredibly crowded. If I was working there [remote] I'd be semi-nocturnal to escape the heat and endless hordes/traffic of jeets.
>>109485264I was in Austin and my mover was a sophomore at Texas State (over 90% acceptance rate). He was telling me about how he was a CS major and how excited he was to get a job making 100k+ immediately out of college.This was in 2024
>>109492469Skill issue for not distracting them with shrubbery. They don't shit on your balcony if there's shrubbery that they can hide in and then shit in
>>109491474Bachelor's in comp sci or industrial engineering?Assume it's free (it is).
>>109492759Should've stayed in the military pfc
>>109492765>militaryI work for a company that will pay for it.
>>109492759Comp EngineeringAlso why would you go for industrial? You do need a license to make that degree work and go to a ABET college.
>>109492787>why would you go for industrialIt's one of the very few options. I didn't even know what it was a few days ago, but it seems interesting at a high level. Seems to be a ton of jobs that come in just a bit lower than comp sci, but without the stress of worrying about if I would even be able to land a job after getting the degree - though I don't know shit about IE and that could just be me not knowing anything about that market at all. I do like programming, though.
>>109492807If they allow you to do both then might as well. Nothing wrong with industrial but you really have to get a PE license to make money from it.
>>109492816>PE licenseI haven't even heard of this. Also looked it up and the college they're partnered with is ABET, but not for that specific program... rip
>>109492831>Partnerted collegeGod that sucks they do that to reduce costs. Yeah if its not ABET then don't get a degree with the word engineering from it. https://www.abet.org/https://ncees.org/exams/pe-exam/
>>109492851Apparently you don't? FYI industrial engineering is basically just making shit more efficient for businesses - logistics, product manufacturing, "systems", loss reduction, etc. It's not "real" engineering. Should still probably go with comp sci I guess.
>>109492872IDK that sounds like you would still be doing some aspect of engineering. What happens if you are tasked with designing the entire product ingest to output within a new factory space while you adhere to OSHA/State/Federal requirements? Systems engineering you would still have to get a ABET accredited degree program for it to be worth something but it's pretty much the management side of engineering. https://ncees.org/exams/pe-exam/industrial-and-systems/
wtf even is bubble tea?i'm never going to make it in this industry if i don't fit in, and i have no idea wtf is going on...
I would like to work in Singapore but damn the marijuana laws are way too nuts.
>>109493045>he imbibes in goynip
>>109492425Just make a custom ublock filter shitlips
>>109493055Really helps take the edge off of rough weeks
>Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?
>>109492936It's what frontend devs consuuuuumeDon't worry about it, you're not working a fag job - are you?
>>109492122lmao we had a period like that in our company. Then all the DEI fucks got laid off last year. Now I proudly use "whitelist" in all my meetings and commits.
>>109492550Adults who wear birkenstocks have always been so fucking gross in my life. it's weird we tolerate them tooYou know those fat teachers and office worker types? Big saggy tits over a massive girthy fridge guts. Yeah. They are flashing their dry feet which POUND into their Birkenstocks under 200+ lb loads when their masters are walking between the snack pantry and their chairs. Boom. Boom. Boom. Yeah, anything will form to a stinky foot under those loads.It's literally unbelievable we all don't point and laugh at these 50+ inch stomach girth freak shows. We simply tolerate them, ignore them, or sometimes we make up illnesses like thyroid conditions to wash over insane calorie consumptions... HAHAHAHAHA I'm fucking dying lmaooo
>here's 200 lines of code with zero comments>explain all the bugs, and what you think this code is trying to do>you have 35 minutes, good luck
>12+ hour days for the next 8 days
>>109493939I use Ruby and don't understand, is this supposed to be hard?
>>109491474I just started a company with a 50yo friend (I'm 29). I'm just gonna peddle clients to him. I know shit about coding. Am I gonna get my ass kicked by the market? We're looking to do B2B software so we can figure out a possible SaaS. We are from /chile/. My goal is at least six clients in a year each one for 3 - 6k. Nothing crazy.Shit on me or wish me luck IDK
>born a 130 iq midwit
>>109493733I want some birkenstocks they look comfy as fuck. I'm not fat though and I think they look /fa/
>>109494198this looks humane compared to what really goes on in meat factories
At what stage in your career do you go from 'here's this ticket, knock out this bug or make this new module that's derivative of a dozen existing modules' to the guy who writes the module that a dozen future modules will need to derive from. It seems intimidating
>>109493939ChatGPT
>>109494353When you joined the team 20 years ago when it was brand new.
I rage watched one tiktok of a foid bragging about her girlboss totally real swe job at google and now my entire fyp is dozens of these depression inducing shorts
>>109494353>what stageNot really how it works. The module is only proposed if it’s needed. The guy who writes it is probably whoever is willing and most qualified at the time it’s needed. That could be someone with 10 years of experience or 10 months.
>>109494626>I told bytedance that I'm a faggot who enjoys girlboss day in the life videos and now it shows me a lot of thosewow how odd
>>109494626Bruh wtf you have a tiktok account? Anything good will percolate down through your group chat with the bros, there is no need to subject yourself to such a thing.
>>109494626>now my entire fypYou're supposed to sell cybernetic drugs to other people, not consume them yourself.
>user asks why report doesn't have this person on it>check query>intended logic (genericized)- find all chefs who don't own their own restaurants and all restaurant owners who aren't the chef>implemented logic - find all chefs who do not own any restaurant and all restaurant owners who are not the chef at any restaurant and do not own any restaurants>and also who is a chef or not is determined by examining properties of substrings of their id instead of using the isChef field of the database>this busted ass query was around for long enough to have (+) in ithow the fuck does it take years for people to notice these things
>>109495159Who cares about chefs owning restaurants
>>109492178>>109492244they IT guys at my company introduced a thing where i can pair my laptop's auth with the phone auth, so for 2FA i can just use my laptop's PIN.fuckhuge improvement since i had to insert the phone's PIN twice when using the app
>>109495159you have no idea how many "feedback" forms I've seen out there that don't actually work lmao. it's as if they broke them to make sure no one ever received the bad feedback...
>>109495745People say that about microsoft crash reports, but it's just a misunderstanding of how they are used. Nobody is looking at the individual error reports, they are just metric tracking and once the number of errors exceeds some threshold in a time period they will look into fixing it
Daily reminder.
anyone shifted from dev into product management/product ownership?I quit my swe job of 5 years because the client were retarded and the dev team felt like a punching bag so im thinking about shifting into something else
Can someone explain how comes India based offices in global companies completely dominate in hiring? If its just about cost how come other third worlders and poor countries like MENA or Latin American don't even make 10% of their numbers? I'm looking at our company's internal transfer tool, filtering by location and like 60% of open positions are India based kek, how?
>>109492122So? Is your black interviewer also offended by "Masters of the Universe"?
>manager starts talking about company values
>retard works his hide off and goes over target to show what a good goy he is>new target is adjusted to his performance
>>109497022I'm done with that bullshit. Manager got salty when I refused to go to some team bulding bullshit and told me that "higher ups need to know you better" and, without much thinking, I told him that if I get my paycheck at the end of the month then they know me enough.
>>109497140>go to the team building>higher ups hang out with higher ups>grunts do humiliating challenges on camera while higher ups get a kick from it (they don't need to participate)
>>109497160That's pretty much the last one I did (not) attend.Also love how every single time there's some sort of festivity they send some cheap food and bullshit to the office while asking everyone to take pictures and upload them to social media. Makes me want to puke.
>>109497178>asking everyone to take pictures>I hope you brought the T-shirts with the company logo!>guys, pretend to be in a productive discussion! *click*>OKAY GUYS A BIG GROUP SHOT NOW, PLEASE FORM THREE LINES>girls come forward, we need to show inclusivity>john, please smile, we want to show we have a friendly environment in the company>anon come out the restroom I know you don't have diarrhea for 3 hours
>>109497160We have the PI in jeetland and for the opening they play this video then make the whole amphitheater stand up and do a little danceI'm not jokinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s0Ay9IGNww
>>109497258>they play this video then make the whole amphitheater stand up and do a little danceanyhwere else this would be considered as peak humiliation ritual, but over there, it's considered an honorfucking crazy
Lads, I'm getting peter principle'd into a product owner role. I'm coming from a pure domain specialist role. How do I survive?
>Thank you for applying for the position [title] at [company], we appreciate the time and effort you have taken. Unfortunately on this occasion the role is no longer available.Why act like you suddenly don't need anyone, just be honest and say you rejected me you bastards>We would be very pleased to keep your resume on our database and we look forward to assisting you with future employment opportunities.Not once has any company on the planet ever looked at resumes already in their database instead of just making another job listing so applicants have to go through the same old humiliation ritual yet againWhat the fuck is even the point of HR
Why is it taking so long for Zucc to hire me
>>109497587He's smoking those meats, man.
>>109493939daily reminder that this is how retarded the "people" doomposting about not finding a job are
My friend is in sales and his buddy is trying to get him a data science job.. My friend literally has no CS knowledge no coding knowledge and got a biology undergrad degree lolHe has an interview for the position coming up hahah
>>109497694You don't need a degree to code anymore. You can get good at using claude code in a week (though of course mastery takes longer)
>>109491474I’m a call centre worker in consumer sales for my country’s biggest telecom. Am I a tech worker?
>>109491474I’m using my own Claude Pro licence on enterprise code without approval because management is too poor to afford corporate licences for developersJust gonna feign ignorance if I get caught for breaking some governance or compliance bullshit
What would be the best path to take if my goal is to get into FAGMAN or a high paying startup with 15 YoE as a frontend dev currently working in a mid level position at a no-name company? Do I need to slowly work my way up and upgrade to a more well known company with each job change? Because right now I'm pretty sure my resume is automatically going in the trash when recruiters look at it and don't even recognize the name of a single company on it. I pretty much have let my career stagnate since the mid 2010s and I want to change that now.
>>109493407Probably the same group that decided they could afford a $9k mortgage with their big paychecks
>>109497742yea thats what his friend said, he told him we all use Claud u can do the job just use claud kekit pays a lot of money nepotism is unreal
>>109497897Yes you're in tech sales. But since you live in a 2nd or 3rd world country you won't get money for nothing and your chicks for free
>>109497208>girls come forward, we need to show inclusivityIt's because they're shorter anon
>>109498007How do you even get that in the 1st world?
>>109497140I went to multiple team building and community events but I was getting paid for it so who even cares. I don't drink and the hr roasties were getting very drunk and making fun of my boss.
>>109491656what part of LA are you from?
>>109497979The same group with 250k in college debt and 120k in car debt too.
>>109495803I'm not talking about stuff like that, I'm talking about companies that do real-life stuff like small stores, transport companies and so on.
>>109497322Actually managers do get jerked around and it happens a lot that they are told they can hire someone for a role or a team so they make a job listing and start interviewing people but then the budget gets yanked from them.
>>109498017You scam your way to the top starting from startups and then laddering
>>109498111>Real companies>Contributing to GDP with actual job growth, products made, products sold, and people to buy said products
>>109498139This, the economy isn't real and the money isn't real. Everything is a scam from the bottom to the top. Doing actual work is slave behavior
>>109495803Are there any software companies that actually care about shipping non-broken software? I can't imagine producing software that you know has thousands of fixable bugs, having all the stack traces you need to fix them from user-submitted crash reports, and yet deliberately choosing to never fix them.
>>109493407I bet an outsized portion of the people making 250k+ are living in SF/NYC/Boston where purchasing power makes that equivalent to more like 100-150k
could a degree-less neet chud go into data science? i have the comptia trifecta and am willing to lern
>>109494198Unironically the 130-145 IQ band is the most miserable. Too smart to relate to normalfags at allToo smart for self professed smart peopleBig fish in a small pond your entire life until you go to math olympiads where you get smoked by the actual math whizzes with 150+ IQ and/or run into the savants at your collegeI’m in my late 20s and I’m still trying to square the circle of it. Statistically smarter than 98-99.9% of people but I feel like an idiot when I run into someone smarter than me. My cope is that everybody I’ve met who is smarter than me is completely autistic and completely lacking in all social skills while I can mask and act normal.
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>>109498357oh no no no no no snailcat ludditbros say it ain't so!!
linux+ or rhcsa?
>>109498369If AI does all the coding, then why even have employees? Let's say you believe it's actually better than the average engineer, then shouldn't you just fire your entire team of 20 engineers and replace them with one manager telling a chatbot what to do?
>>109498264NTA It's great that shit comes easy to you anon. But have you tried moving on from having your entire personality revolve around your education? If you can't then get a Phd.
>>109494330Well they do that before they start cutting up the animals.
>>109498410Maybe that's what we're heading towards, yeah. Obviously we're in a transitory period with everyone trying to figure out the best way to do things so who knows
>>1094984101 Man and 2 women to reject the rest of the men applying for the job. Then the man hires 3 more women to do the rest of the work while he plays vidya gayem's in the office all day. A real lions job.
manwhen I was shitposting a couple years ago and doing testing on 3.0 i didnt expect it to turn into thismy tech job is morphing into aislop reviewer. work products are dogshit. clients give catshit. just the other day asked my analyst handed me an escel with a bad column, so i told him to fix it. does he use keybinds? no he takes my comment, attaches file into claude, and gives me claudfileas a manager im in hell i want to go back to comfy sme land>inb4 blogposting
>>109498443nopehttps://rumble.com/v798evg-secret-kosher-slaughterhouse-exposed-in-england-sickening-investigation.html
>>109498603>Kosher>HalaYep shitskins and kikes sure love pouring the blood from animals. Hala they cut the heads off with rusty knives.
>>109498603>Cutting an animal's throat is scarryyyy OHHHH AAHHHHAre vegans just permanently stunted 12 year olds?
>work at a smallish company>company has no budget to add any new employees right now>go to their linkedin page and see a new job posted a day ago that matches my job description exactlyIs it time to start looking for a new job?
This is what I like to see on a job application.
>>109498423My entire personality revolves around my job/income and being attractive/fit actually. I “only” have a masters and getting a PhD is very unappealing (spend 4+ years in academia for peanuts, ROI is low)
>>109498820And then when they hire you you'll be forced to use a clanker and review its slop.
>>109498886I won't care at that point anymore because at least I'll be making a lot more money. I'm already forced to use AI at my current job where the pay sucks.
>>109492527I NEVER POST HERE BUT THESE INDIANS ARE DRIVING ME NUTS. THEY ALL HAVE "MASTERS DEGREES" BUT ITS OBVIOUSLY JUST SOME DEGREE IN INDIA. ONE OF THEM IS BRAGGING ABOUT HIS PS5 PREORDER OF GTA 6, SAYS HE LOVES THE IN-GAME SKINS. MY BOSS IS INDIAN AND KEEPS HIRING MORE INDIANS. I ASKED HIM TO SOLVE A SIMPLE PROBLEM AND HIS ENGRISH NO VERY GOOD, HE JUST BABBLED ON ABOUT NONSENSE. BUT INSTEAD JOHN FROM DOWN THE HALL CAN FIX IT IN 5 MINUTES. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK. MY FRIENDS CALL ME RACIST BUT IM ON THE FRONT LINES DEALING WITH THAT SHIT.
Will the industry ever go back to multiple recruiters emailing you daily to offer interviews like how it was in the 2010s or is sending out 1000 applications just to get an interview the new normal?
>>109493407so what about the other 88 percent?
>>109499130Yes, very soon, but all of the recruiters will be scammers trying to steal your information or hack your computer
>interviewing with the tech lead>he's been at the company for 12 years>he's grilling me about object ownership, memory leak debugging, etc.>ask him if the codebase is well structured or if it's a mess of references being passed around across 50 different files>"oh lol it's a mess!"
>>109494626A lot of it is ragebait or meant for promotional purposes by the company itself.
>>109498410Because despite all the shilling, AI can't oneshot complex requirements to working solutions without intervention in a lot of cases. Once it can do that the only role left will be product owner.
>>109498683Yes, look for a new job now.
>>109499130CS enrollments have only now started to stagnate. It'll take a decade until the junior pipeline has dried up and by then juniors won't even be needed.
I got a backend dev (it's a fullstack since I need to deal with frontend also) job right after graduating in cs earning 1.5k/month as a trainee and can possibly go up to 3k in about a month, working 42.5h/week and 1.5h of commmute daily.I've been here for about 2 months and not enjoying it, partially because of the low salary, but also because I've got no time outside of work on weekdays, and on weekends it's basically house chores, gym, church, a movie and it's monday again. I'm currently thinking of quitting this job and start editing videos for yt since I could wfh and probably earn a bigger salary than what I'm making currently and what I will make in the near future. Do you guys think I'm just changing one problem for another?
>>109497140I hate all these social gatherings like you wouldn't believe but this is a red flag for the normies, and if they are committed enough, they will try to get rid of you because of this. You better try your best to larp assuming you want to keep this job.
>>109499100>THEY ALL HAVE "MASTERS DEGREES" BUT ITS OBVIOUSLY JUST SOME DEGREE IN INDIAi always think of this whenever i see some job posting that requires a masters at a minimum but pays some stupidly low salary. the most blatant "h1b only" signal they can put on an application.the kicker is most of those masters degrees are probably fake too. i'm sure any attempt at verification just goes to some scam office in mumbai that says "yes maam degree is very real ramdeep is good student" and the retarded hr stacy doesn't think twice.
>>109499709I'm not talking about junior level, I'm talking about mid and senior level.
what even is the point
>>109498223of course. Just tell the recruiter you use claude. The codings are fully automated now sir, what you provide to your employer is the sovl. That is why programming jobs exist now
>>109499397>soon, but all of the recruiters will be scammersthat's already the case
>>109500099While the junior pipeline is as bad as it is, mid and senior positions will remain highly competed for for the foreseeable future.
>>109500119Money. Money buys shelter, money buys mobility, money buys health, money buys fun and entertainment, money buys investment which buys even more money.
>>109500186I'm not making any bets on the future. Look at how far AI coding tools have gone in 2 years, in another 5 they might be insanely cracked
>>109500310Once they can replace us, we've already achieved AGI. At that point all white-collar jobs are already gone and blue-collar jobs will follow in months.
>>109500206they plateaued a year ago at. All the noise is marketing, placebo effect and better harnesses
>>109500336meant for >>109500310
>>109500186AI gives you brainrot and I'm watching seniors become juniors on real time.Good for my wallet, grim future.
Do you need a type A personality to get a job in any big tech company these days, or do they still hire people with low self confidence and poor social skills, as long as you're good at the job?
>>109500513I've gotten shat on for my autism in a mediocre-paying dev job in a hellhole of a city. I can only imagine Big Tech must be even worse these days.
>>109500513if you're even slightly considering working in tech, save yourself the time. 99% chance it is not happening.people need to get this idea out of their head "i will just be really good to make up for being antisocial"no you wont. they would rather hire a guy half as good who is tolerable than someone with social problems. not only that, but there's a guy who is normal who can do the job even better than you. its an employer's market.
>>109500415Face it—AI replaces antiquated workflows for efficiency. Velocity. Shipping on time. You are a dinosaur and your days are numbered—AI is the future.
>>109500513>>109500562i forgot to mention, big tech = indians. they're allowed to be antisocial because they hire based exclusively on ethnicity.
>>109500513It depends on what makes your social skills bad and how bad they are. Someone that is sometimes a bit awkward during small talk is perfectly fine. Someone with a huge ego that can't work in teams because they think they are always right is a problem, for example.
>>109500562I didn't say anything about being antisocial, just about having no confidence and being shy and quiet around people. I already work in tech and most of my coworkers are like this too, but I just wanted to know how it is in ultra-selective big tech companies.
>>109500571You are right to push back on that — and honestly? yours is not just inflamatory engagement bait, but a load-bearing take that sheds light on an argument which is worth bringing up.
>>109496964they work each other like slaves latam is a bit too chill.mena is jihadi or oil>>109497321you die>>109492759>learn to codeits now learn to mine
>>109496964They have a fuckton of fluent English speakers. If I recall correctly the total number of english speakers in India is larger than in the US, even though they are a small fraction of the population. I could be wrong about this
>do you guys use this product / internal tool? >"we can't answer that">will I be able to work remotely after a year>"you're not a good fit for this role">how often are salary increases>"we do not see the traits we're looking for in your candidacy">are you guys going to lay me off next month>"this is a fast paced work environment and anything could happen">are the offices open or am i getting a cubicle>"your interests may not be aligned with this role"and then interviewers look at you like the devil himself if you don't ask 3-4 questions every interview for 7 rounds
>>109500571AI is actively sabotaging the product I'm working on and making it take at least 10x as long as it should to ship. My team's tech lead just sits there all day having Claude generate these convoluted multi page over-engineered planning documents for every little feature, then the retarded zoomers on the team who have never written a single line of code in their lives just tell Claude to implement the doc and commit the output as their own code. Then a month later when the product team asks why the nothing works properly, I have to go through and delete 10,000 lines of Claude generated spaghetti code and rewrite it from scratch. Oftentimes I'll ask the specific person on the git blame why something was implemented the way it was, and they respond as if it's the first time they've seen the code or tried using the feature. Meanwhile I'm on the verge of being let go because to these retards it seems like I'm contributing the least amount of work on the team.I honestly think there's going to be a reckoning soon when the investors financing these software companies realize the massive amount of lost productivity and money AI has cost them and HOPEFULLY it will result in more money flowing into companies that don't rely on AI to get work done.
>>109496964Average monthly salary in India is below $300. How many Westoids can live even on $1000 a month? I know an Iranian coding in Python for $300 a month in Iran. Most Americans simply can't justify the colossal premium in salaries
>>109500795>wahhh im 40 years old and hate everything and hate young peoplei am doing everything i can to make sure i never become this
>>109500884not that anon, but I feel like you lack reading comprehension if that's what you got out of his post
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>>109498894I'm just pointing out their hypocrisy since they don't let you use LLMs during the job interview.
>>109491474enjoying the weekend, /twg/?
>>109501780I hate weekends
>>109500794open space offices are dogshit, give me a room for my team members or bust.that being said, i don't think they would reject you when asking if you're working in a cubicle or open office
>>109500795What's wrong with just being a junior and relax? In my team at amazon they'll give you a project's business requirements where the expected changes span some 40 something microservices and expect you to scope, design and implement it all without any senior supervision or help as SDE 1(L4).Don't get me wrong I can do it now even though I struggled at first but I know for the fact through speaking with other teams that shit we do is not supposed to be within scope of a junior and everyone else just implements clear shit provided by their seniors
>>109501907amazon genuinely sounds like the worst company in the world
>>109501072This is just sad.
>>109501922Oh did I mention that all our seniors don't work with us anymore and just spend 100% of their bandwidth making AI tools to show for leadership and never to use them again? Of course I don't blame them because that's what they are asked to do but it's just turning to cancer at this point.
>>109501780I'm enjoying mine, thank you.
the worst part about a shit job market is that when you finally get a job, the job is shit too
>>109501907Dunno what your circumstances are, but when I came back to Amazon they brought me back as an SDE II and immediately handed me a project that was VERY clearly suited for a principal engineer (a cross several organizations project) and told me they couldn't hire anybody else for it, not even a product manager or someone to help me scope it out or organize requests from people all over the entire company. It wasn't like that during my first stint, but their retarded obsession with frugality has clearly taken over and from what I've heard from old coworkers they're basically just laying off people nonstop nowadays to make the numbers look better and crossing their fingers that whoever's left (at whatever level) can fill the void. And then when they don't fill the void, they get fired too. Shit's fucked over there and I'm so glad I'm gone.
>>109502079Yup. It's pretty funny also because there's an official role guidelines that show what scope is expected from each level but its thrown into trash in reality. >SDE1: Owning a single well defined and scoped component of a feature>SDE2: Owning a well defined and scoped feature >SDE3: Designing and scoping a project spanning multiple features in one stream>Principle SDE: Designing projects spanning multiple streams/orgsNot exact wording but it's something like that. Meanwhile in reality you usually have the SDE2 doing the PSDE work, and if you get experienced in some domain or become a subject matter expert you'll suddenly be expected to do SDE3+ shit even if you are SDE1. Meanwhile the SDE3 and PSDE will be busy doing AI initiatives and rarely do any coding or design (at best you'll get SDE2s designing a service with SDE3 review).It gets even shitter if you work across orgs because when you say something as an SDE1 everyone for some reason will not take you seriously. I had so many times where I get ignored for saying something so I just bring in an SDE2 or SDE3 to say the EXACT same shit and the other team will suddenly agree to it lmao
>>109502079>>109502188To add it one of my teammates said we do this because we are assuming you are getting promoted (as in you are given the next role's scope from now) but 1. We fucking get 2 levels ahead not one 2. Other teams may not think that way and they'll just see an intern+ larping as SDE3 and roast them at every chance. Even if you are right and answer all their questions they'll still sound condescending
>>109492122As long as you didn’t say it in front of a white person with zero personality. Black people don’t care. Remember it was a random non-programmer french guy that took issue with master based off randomly noticing something to be pissy about and for whatever reason the git devs caved
>>109502049Yeah that's why I left
>>109502049The job has always been shit, who are you kidding
>>109502049bitches be like>cs is so bad look at me crying in the car!!!and then they show leetcode mediums lmao
>>109500768>They have a fuckton of fluent English speakerskys
>>109500768mrmm yess very true saar. and i thinking they big tax in US to. many tech ceo are indian!
>>109500336>they plateaued a year agoI wouldn't be so sure.you and everyone else are training them (or helping train them) by using them.I don't get why more people don't realize this.
>>109494626
>>109486088>>109502049>>109503209what the hell is this fucking spam
I converted from Contractor (2 years of working here) to FTE back in March, promoted from App Support Engineer to SRE, and I just passed probation.Now what? getting prepared to be laid off soon?
>>109503348indians and chinese spies have found the last section of organic traffic on this pile of shit website and are going to start advertising here too
>>109503399grapeape talks about this
>>109503420the brown guy defending his people by pretending to not know that the IPs are mobile IPs sold to people for advertising. color me surprised.
30 y/o furry coworker i sit next to listens to asmongold and I sometimes catch him slipping up when he's talking to the other incel coworker.I just think this is funny.
>>109503438rapeape is indian?
>>109503371Why do you think you're gonna get laid off?
>>109496964There's a recent switch to SEA. I saw jeets complaining how Vietnamese are starting to compete with their jobs since they earn even less kek.>Not once has any company on the planet ever looked at resumes already in their databaseThey actually do anon, but not to reconsider you - its to autoreject you even faster next time. I personally never apply to any company that autorejected me or ghosted me in the past, unless they are a big ass corpo, especially FAGMAN level.
>>109503834just my pessimism, last year I saw a layoff on my company albeit they’re middle managers, still can’t trust corpos.
oh great my sister is trying to become a linkedin influencer
>Got a job in nyc. >Solicitors post up outside around 5ish and pester everyone “could I ask you question?”>Others seem to acknowledge them for some reason>autistically speed walk past them while they try to talk to me>don’t even turn my head>last two really tried to get in my face then acted offended because I would’t look at themI get so much pleasure out of this. Last girl was looking right at me waving her hands then gave an “oh okay” as if I’m the one in the wrong for not putting up with their shit everyday
>>109504038I don't live in jew york city, but when solicitors pester me at costco I put my hand up and don't turn to look at them. I don't care if it's "rude", they are literally in the business of pretending to have a genuine problem so they can give you a sales pitch. They are rude to you by disrespecting your time, acting offended as if you owe them 20 minutes of your life, so fuck them, be rude and make it clear you want them to fuck off
>>109503954I wish they laid off my middle management. It's getting ridiculous where we have a chain like: VP who manages just one Associate VP and he manages one Sr Manager who manages another Middle Manager who manages just one worker.
My org is mainly engineer 1, 2, senior, principal, partner, with managers up to cvp. Then I look at a sister org and everyone is a director or senior director. It's senior directors managing a team or senior directors who each have nobody under them. How are you a director if you have no direct reports? What are you directing? What does director mean?
Are there open source/local ai coding agents in can download on linux?
>>109496964Indians hire indians.It's that simple.
>>109503979Beat her up
>>109504163Chinese ones
>looking to change jobs>during the HR screenings they often ask if i'm pursuing other offers/interviewing with other companiesi should just continue to lie and say they're the first one to contact me, right?obviously i can't pretend i'm not looking for a job at all
>have random thing happen that's happened before>used to just have to wonder why it happened>now can ask AI any bullshit question and get an answerI don't know the exact implications for tech work but it's not good honestly
>>109505830it shat out a plausible sounding explaination while pretending it's the only possible explaination
>>109505818>i should just continue to lie and say they're the first one to contact me, right?Why lie? Just say you are also applying to other jobs.
>>109506407they're asking if, more specifically, i'm currently in contact with any other HR department/recruiter at the moment.>why lie?why ask the question in the first place?my guess is:>this guy already got an offer somewhere else and is just looking to see if he can get anything better. if i lowball him he's just gonna refuse so i'm not even going to bother
>>109500119generating value for shareholders
>>109501780I've been drunk since 4pm Friday
>>109503979rape her
>>109505872I do this at work
Just started using simple.fi. Anyone have any luck with it?
>>109506571>this guy already got an offer somewhere else and is just looking to see if he can get anything better. if i lowball him he's just gonna refuse so i'm not even going to botherThe other place could lowball him, too.
>>109486088>>109502049>>109503209How is it that even women who graduate from elite universities that only the top 0.1% can even get into and work at the most elite companies in the world, still act like elementary school aged children on social media and in their social lives? Are they just pretending to be retarded?
>>109507580why are you replying to ragebait spam?tech WORKERS general?
What is the right level of wealth before you retire? I have 1.4 million dollars and I am thinking of quitting my job. It's not enough money to buy a good house in Silicon Valley but I should be able to retire in another part of th country, right?
>>109507994Lmao. You could buy a decent house in Indiana and survive off that for like 10yrs. Hope you don’t plan on living much longer
>>109505818Why wouldn’t you want them to know there’s competition on you? If they’re interested and someone else is also interested they have to get their shit together and make an offer before you go with someone else instead of taking two months of interviews before carefully deciding to go with someone else
>>109507994No lol that is poor fag territory.
>>109507440>>109508040>Why wouldn’t you want them to know there’s competition on you?i'd prefer if they took their time to evaluate me in my skills rather than try and force their end with FOMO.as i said, i'm currently employed, so waiting a few months is not problem at all.i would be rather pissed off if i lost on a very good offer not because i'm not a good fit, but because i tried to force their hand
I know we'll all be unemployed soon but it will be incredible to tell people in the future about this phase of the market we're currently enjoying. I've received 380K over the last 2 years for copying and pasting Jira tickets into claude, then asking codex to review it, then copying and pasting any critiques it has into claude again. Once every couple of days typing "make it faster" or "doesnt work" too. I think I've never been happier. Enjoy this phase, guys.
I don't even think we had claude code or codex in 2024? Or we did? I literally have no memory of how this job was before claude code.
>>109508362In 2024, I distinctly remember the lead engineer trying to get local LLMs to run. Then I switched companies late 2024. After that, it's a bit of blur as to how this happened
>>109508362>I literally have no memory of how this job was before claude code.SameI have no idea what the fuck I was doingStill don't but they pay me well
I had an interview with an AI recruiter recently. Surprisingly, I didn't hate it. It was cordial and to the point and understood everything that said perfectly. Also, I didn't feel the shame when it asked a technical question I didn't know the answer to. It was a good experience, and I'd be left worried about my job if I was a recruiter right now.
>>109502233This is true. Black people (who don't hate white people or are caught up in that thuggin-hiphop drill culture etc) are genuine and authentic people and fun to be around, in my opinion, especially because they have a great sense of humor and are not fake touchy butthurt libtards... Just don't come out and say some dumb shit within the first couple hours of meeting them, let them get to know you, and then the fun times really start up.
>cutting costs Last year me and one(1) engineer did a compliance initiative that saved 500M$ yearly in fees. Launch announcements and business documents regularly have 8 to 9 digits in business impact. Nigga I can count the combined salaries of not just everyone involved, but everyone in the building and the ROI on engineers would still be positive. What cost cutting you need when your average engineering nigga is giving you 100000% in ROI? Lmao fucking jews
>>109508687Recruiters do a lot more than interviews. Also, you're a subhuman for going along with it. Fuck you.
Why are there so few frontend jobs now? There's only one frontend position for every 50 full stack positions at most companies. It makes no sense since frontend is the most visible part of a product and without a good frontend nobody's going to use your product.
> junior c++ dev > wants 5 years of professional experiencewhy do they write this bullshit what kind of c++ dude with 5 years experiencing is going to accept a junior role
>>109509259Where are the hot people?
>>109509264The unemployed one will
>>109509090A company hired to take care of their S3 buckets with over a lot of petabytes of data. First thing I noticed is that they were using Standard in everything, so naturally I checked if they were actually using that that regularly. Of course not, not even 1% it. Implemented some lifecycle policies that went on to save a few million dollars per year for them. Even one month of those savings was worth several years of my salary. But it's useless, anon, executives are addicted to "cutting costs" at any price, they don't really care about the aftermath since they usually get laid off with fat checks and get hired the next week.
>>109509264me, saar
>>109493045DUDE
>>109493045hard to say I've seen a post more millennial than this one
Im the annon who was complaining about not finding a job with 7yoe 2mo ago.Ive been trying to find a job before i was laid off. More than 1 year now. After my layoff i already did 30-50 interviews that led nowehere.So instead of complaning and getting depressed, instead i will try to work somewhere else. I paid a bricklayering course and starting next week. People who think they will keep a carrer in IT after AI are on pure cope.
>>109509426do a solar install course.
>>109509426lmao bye nigga, less competition for me
>>109509193Because every dev position is now fullstack + AI.
>>109509426Have you ever heard about the story of the fox and the grapes?
>>109509438If im doing manual labor then at least i want to build house and real things. I dont want to do some faggy work with solar panels. Already wasted to many years with faggy activities (programming) in my life.
>>109509485https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGHe6g8WwEcMIGA
>>109509492It's an ancap country here, LIBERAL. We respect the AI and give our due respects to Thiel.
>stuck in a toxic job in current job marketanons I don't think I can't take this, been looking for over a year, only got a few interviews and no offers.is it time to leave IT and go work in a factory?
>>109509485you're going to kill yourself when you realize the rest of your life is going to be spent under the sun in 90 degree weather next to mexicans that can't speak english
>>109491474how dare you use tsuredure for a low effort meme have some standards
>>109509653Only you can tell. I choose to gave up instead of wasting another year of my life chasing IT. >>109509684Yeah, but at least i can specialize in floor work or painting, i believe these step are always done after the ceilling is built, so no sun at least. It was either construction or welding. I gave up on welding because it seems you fuck up your eyes and my vision is already bad. But i dont, will give it a try and see how it goes. Better than wasting time talking to hr whores for nothing.
>>109509785lmao it's funny how many millennial / gen x losers are dropping out of the tech market after experiencing difficulty in their lives for the first time. You have no idea just how good you actually have it making $200k a year sitting in meetings. 30-50 interviews is nothing. This job market is terrible, and even yet its still 100x better than other countries.
>>109509653In my case:>have eng degree >7yoe java/angular in finance>multiple top 3 worldwide players in my cv>being able to get 3-4 interviews every single week since march>i was applying for jobs since october last year>almost got a job at visa by the end of the year but they frooze the position >i endlessly talk to hr, have all the reqs but still canot get a job>most of these are just consulting companies and the whore is probably interviewing without having a job, just to meet her weekly quota>in finance/banking 95% of jobs are via a consulting comp>browsing linkedin, always the same fake post that are open 24/7/365 but never hire>i try to work outside finance but i dont even get interviews, even if the stack is the same>tried to work on those jewish AI trainning comps that pay x amount per hour >they require some gay AI interview to start so i just quit the application, not bothering with talking to a bot
>>109509892>brown zoom zoom in college for cs who cant understand people who have bills to pay and dont live with their parentsSybau it aint be bussin fr doe hey so you will be unemployed and working in a factory just like him... hope this helps!
>>109510003lmao point provenenjoy the rest of your miserable life getting sunburnt next to spicsI got a job offer last month, $200k a year to vibe code, currently waiting on the onboarding>>>/g/utwghave a shit life
>>109509892>>109510003Yeah, right. Im not some ultra rich early crypto investor. I cannot just live for 2-3years doing 50 interviews per semester and hoping for a job in IT to appear. Fuck IT. In theory i could go back to my moms house and do nothing all day, just leetcode and interviews. She wouldnt complain at all but i dont want to live like this. Besides the money, i dont the whole idea of wasting my time in pointless hr interviews for ghost jobs. Wasting my time with pointless brain teases (leetcode). I would rather break my back in the sun doing something useful.
>Checking lambda jobs whether if it runs on this Sunday as scheduled or not because why not>all Lambda jobs are disabled by L2 jeets for whatever reasonOh boy I am going to absolutely LOVE this Monday with all the Recovery calls
>>109510017im not the same anon. im still employed. theres no chance any of what you said is true since your posts reek of envy and extreme bitterness. ive only ever seen that from the highest of losers. if it were true you are spiritually broken for feeling the need to dunk on someone who had to get other work. lets assume that it were true. ok now what, youre still a brown zoomer. all the money in the world doesnt fix that.enjoy having poop for skin lil bruh. it dont be bussin doe.
>>109510124I'm not brown but if you haven't noticed, brown people are winning. Because they don't do this loser shit of crying about how bad things are, they just keep going and working harder. Are indians moving out of tech because the job market is shit? No they grind "jeetcode" and lie their asses off to get the jobs, no matter what. Meanwhile white people cry about how bad everything is and go become plumbers. You're a loser. You have the mentality of a loser, and you will always be a loser.
>>109498033>team building>I don't drinkGood, you have to be unbelievably retarded to drink around your colleagues and especially administration
>no job lined up but interviewing at 5 different places and about to get an offer at one>just put in my 2 weeks noticeyolo
Gentlemen, I regret to inform you that: women
>>109500795>AI is actively sabotaging the productmy colleague uses claude so much it seems like abusemost functions are one-liners and docstrings are 50+ linesone module's docstring was 375 lines, I am not jokingi don't not know if he just pads the commit for managers, just trolling or lost control of complexity and gave upthe functionality of his code is not complicated at all btw
>>109510318Neither of those are women.
>>109509264All job announcements are written by AI and nobody bothers to check. An HR roastie sees>C++>5y experienceand happily clicks "Send"
>>109510327If he's using one code session to iterate on the code Claude will just tack more and more to the docstrings for every change. He should start a new session with Claude and ask to compress the docstrings to what really matter—the real content—and remove all the iteration-focused irrelevancy.
>>109510428thanks claude
>>109510168The money for work in IT is excellent but other than that, i wasnt enjoying. I do like the technical aspect but the application is bad.In my case i always worked for banks and large finance companies. I do not like them and their activities. Suppose i could work 10x harder, it would just help the bank rape people even harder. So i always got this disconnection bewteen wanting to improve, do more, go harder but finding a path for that. I even tried to volunteer as a dev in a site called catch a fire but tehy never replied. I tried for couple times to become a volunteer in some important open source proj like software used for banking in africa and poor countries. But these open source that are actually used by ngos and govts they have dev from govt and doing contributions via github isnt that simple. I never went to college simply to make lots of money or have a comfy job. I always wanted to be good in something. But applying that isnt always possible. You can be an excellent thief, doenst mean you should use your skills. Also i never had some saas or software idea so i could use my skills and work by myself. All soft that i think is useful is alredy written. I dont see the point in doing AI bullshit, spyware or soft that serves to sell more trash to people. So you see, i may get worse working conditions, way less money but at least i can work by myself at some point and deal directly with people to fix things, do home improvements and so. I dont have children, i dont need to accumulate money, not using that after i die. Im infertile and dont plan to ever have some step children.
>>109509264do you really think they dont know what theyre doing? theyre just covering their ass to engage in discriminatory hiring. only a durgasoft professional can do this job and we need h1b sir. theyre just so skilled and smart compared to the american worker.
i have stopped exaggerating on my resume and now i'm straight up lying
>>109510467Why wouldn't they hire the most qualified candidate in the price range they want to pay? The problem is American hiring is over-regulated which prevents them from going straight to the cheap, good candidates (Indians) and instead forces them to consider expensive shitty candidates (Whites).
>>109510318>a used up 40yo hag still managed to make some money shaking her assThis society is nuts
Should I just let AI rewrite my resume despite the fact that half of it is bullshit I've never even done? It sounds way more impressive than my real resume which I'm getting zero interviews with.
>>109510318>>109510676>womenThat's a troon.
I'm genuinely upset by the entire Indian takeover of IT and tech. Hasn't anyone considered that it's a national security concern that foreign nationals are only hiring other foreign nationals in a gigantic supply chain attack, and are going to eventually own literally all of the industries and kick the boomers out of the market? It's obviously state-sponsored as well.
>>109511028Try it and see.
>>109511271Indians are superior and will inherit the earth, Timmy. Face the free market.
>>109511271You might be simply braindead. Take a look at this chart and guess how many people out of top 10 richest Americans have Jewish roots according to Wikipedia itself. If those people could overtake the entire country's economy, why do you think anybody would care if some wageslaves will be replaced? You are sounding alarm about having getting infection after somebody shot you in the brain.
>>109511317>Larry Ellison>Mark Zuckerberg>Larry Page>Sergey Brin>Michael Dell
>>109511466It's actually worse than that. Dell, Ballmer, Brin, Page, Zuckerberg, Ellison are Jewish. 6 out of 10, that's despite Jews constituting less than 3% of the total USA population. Curious how there was no DEI for top 1%.
>>109511317>why do you think anybody would care if some wageslaves will be replaced?Those wageslaves make the products they sell. You already see how disastrous even a little bit of outsourcing has been for Microsoft, and they aren't even majority Indian.
>>109511271Indians are literally better and more obedient workers and are not fat lazy slobs like americansLiterally why would you ever choose a white guy over an indian?
>>109511500>>109511317This isn't even getting into the fact that Indians can't do the job the west can do, and their attempts to do so will end in disaster for every industry. At least the Jews you're pointing out have the ability to replicate these jobs.
>>109511507>Dear Aditi>Aditi is a Sanskrit name meaning “boundless” or “limitless,” and she is also an important Vedic goddess in Hinduism.You just gave reason #1 And I'll give reason #2:
>>109511507>screenshots the email within the minute it was sentNot saying that it's faked or anything, I would've probably read a couple times over and checked the email handle before screenshotting and posting it on fourchannel dot org
>>109511571I am going to say it's either faked or made to be FUD for this thread. From the indian name to the oddly overreaching response from the "hiring team" who has zero say over you or your job, and the oddly specific obsession over a 3sum problem like this isn't just mental masturbation for neets around here "I can't do 3 or even 4sum!!!! NGMI!!!!!" like fuck off dude.
>>109511545If you subtract niggers and mexicans and just count white SAT scores IQ extraction method, US goes up from 98 to 102, on par with Japan/Italy. Niggers drag the scores down with their average IQ of 75
>>109495573Sorry I am jewish and I am using a Kosher flip phone, I am not able to use your shitty 2FA, i guess you will have to promote me to director level so i could just make decisions
>>109509259what the fuck is actually wrong with women? why are they always interested in gathering and doing stuff that nobody cares about, just to show off?
>>109511271nobody actually gives a shit about national security, it's all about sucking as much money out of the economy as possible nowadays and if that means extracting as much as you can out of previously functioning businesses by replacing the entire staff with jeets and having them slopcode as much as possible to monetize every single feature until your customers finally give up on you then so be it
>>109511507>I AM THE HIRING KING. I AM TOTALLY REAL PERSON AT THIS REAL ORGANIZATION AND I FORSOOTH TO INFORM YOU THAT YOUR OFFERING HAS BEEN LACKING. THE QUALITY OF YOUR SUBMISSION IS SO APPALLING AS TO BE COMMON RIFFRAFF THAT I SUSPECT YOU OF BEING UNCLEAN, UNCLEAN I SAY! DO YOU EVEN KNOW PALINDROME PARTITIONING? OR ANY OTHER LEETCODE MEME I SAW ON FACEBOOK. YOU WILL BE HELD TO THE TRIAL OF HIRING FOR YOUR SINS. I, THE HIRING KING, HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO BANISH AND SLAY NONBELIEVERS SUCH AS THYSELF, RAJEESH. BEING A REAL PERSON AT THIS REAL COMPANY DESCRIBED IN THIS REAL EMAIL wow, is this how corporate works?
>>109496587I want to suck his toes
>>109511500>everyone I don't like is jewish
>>109511812And indian
>>109511812Move your fat finger for once in your life and check their ethnicity in Wiki yourself, you imbecilic parody of a human https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_Americans_by_net_worth
>>1095080081.4 million makes about 56k a year with a 4% per year withdrawal. The fuck do you think he's going to just put it in a checking account?
Hey if Kimi and Claude both said my updated resume was good that means I'm good right?
>>109510501me too, I just picked a company in bankruptcy proceedings and made up a bullshit job to cover a 25 month and counting gap
>>109509426The fuck? IT can't be replaced by AI because it is interacting in the real physical world. CS obviously can since it's just typing on a keyboard. But IT is maintaining real physical hardware.
>>109511649I just have a work phone and a personal phone. Who the fuck has byod?
>>109509426>After my layoff i already did 30-50 interviews that led nowehereHow the fuck did you get that many interviews in 2 months? Getting an interview is that hardest part of the job search. It means you're already in the top 1% of applicants.
>>109510383My application letters are written by ai too
>>109511956He said in over a year. And plenty were probably just video interviews.
>>109511970He said since he was laid off 2 months ago. But even that many interviews in one year is insane.
>>109511975No, he said somebody else did but he has been unemployed for over a year. I forgive you since you are esl.
>>109506571You're thinking about it backwards. If you're currently employed and only interviewing at this one place, they'll assume you're just casually fishing for better pay. Whereas if you're interviewing at multiple places, it'll show that you're serious about finding employment.That or they're asking you the question so they can lowball you if you DON'T have other options because you're more desperate. Either way, telling the truth is in your favor
>>109511920Cisco wants SD-WAN to do so much of the computer networking work that AT&T can swoop in with contractors to do all of the work. Grand scheme of things the programmers/engineers/IT managers really think distributed computing was a mistake and want to go back too Mainframe computing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBE6glZNJuU
>>109509485Waste of time Mechanics, Electricians, HVAC, and most of all Plumbing gets paid 2-5x that of anyone in construction. The mechanic in my neighborhood makes 90k a year and flips cars for extra cash.
>>109512061Severely depends on the country. I am living in Germany and the electrician I knew was making around $2500 a month after tax.
>>109512071Now thats sad. You could also consider Linesman or FiberOptic installer. But both of those jobs have significantly more dangerous work than normal. Either way any of these jobs are better than bricklaying, roofing, carpentry, flooring, ect.
i'm poor and dumb and i want to interact with as few people as possible. I'm fine doing something thats labor intensive and/or repetitive. What tech worker job should I go for and what certs do i need. Reminder I am literally brain damaged from a house fire that makes it hard distinguish faces and to put myself into other peoples shoes. In America in a car if this helps. I was thinking network admin because I did that as a teen setting up LAN parties and maintaining a minecraft server.
>>109512218waste of time. nobody is hiring.if you pursue tech you will be even more poor, and it will fully validate that you are dumb for even pursuing it.wake up.
>>109511271anon, it's a political directive. israel and american tech companies have directed zionist politicians to replace china with india as the "next" manufacturing tech power, since they love israel.they all thought that china would obey and work as cheap drones forever.get out of your bubble and realize that you are being attacked not by china, russia, europe, mexico, or any middle eastern country other than israel.
>>109511956Yeah, i see people complaining of not getting interviews, not my case, i do get 3 at least each week. Last week 4 whores scheduled interviews with me via linkedin, i didnt even apply. And yeah, im not from USA, i do think im easily top 5% candidates for my region. See this:>>109509896I do have a degree, did a lot of side projects during college, i have 7yoe in the same industry. I get so many interviews but they go nowhere. Also when i was trying, i would aim for 50 applications/week. I got 30-50 interviews since april, but stopped counting after 30. It is the 4th time im unemployed and this time is different. In the past i could get a job after 5-10 interviews. IMO theres only ghost jobs now. People who dont get a job because they dont get interviewed are wrongly assuming is the lack of interviews that prevents them from getting a job. >>109512104>>109512061I can try. I will start with bricklayering, but if thats too difficult or too hard i can try something else.
>>109512262plumber it is
Got a new job and apparently I'll only receive my payment from the last month wotk in the next month. I hope I listened wrong otherwise killing myself is the only option since I had to fucking borrow some money with my mom to start work.I'm about to fucking have a panic attack.
>>109512292>>>/g/utwgbut IMO you should try doing something that might get users. something easy, funny, dumb or w/e, like a scraper for facebook or whatever that might help random people in your local community. maybe post to facebook itself.
>>109512632hell, maybe build a scraper for yourself and sell crap (data, emails, chinese knockoffs, whatever) to local businesses.>>109512552>I'll only receive my payment from the last month wotk in the next month.is that even legal? why didn't you get it written by your employer/boss/team leader?did you sign any papers? have you tried talking to a lawyer?
>live with my grandma in a big city to save money>she wastes all her time watching stupid turkish drama shows on the TV>last week she picked up a new series called "desi bling">get blasted by the stupid jeet accent now every time I go to the kitchencan't even escape them in my own home anymore
>>109512654I didn't actually sign anything, lmao. It's a below the courtains kind of deal, if know what I mean. I'll know for sure tomorrow, and if that's the case I'll just get out without even saying bye.Holy fuck, i'm such a retard. Thank God I wasn't actually working for real last month, only some training. Just received some stipend but it ain't enough to work this month. The job is pretty fine, tho. I don't fucking know what to do, I don't want to go back stocking shelves, or something even worse NEETdom.I fucking hate my life. 6 years being a NEET and now that I finnaly get a job this happens.
How are the requirements so low for a job advertising a $250k salary? And it's not even in a HCOL city.
>>109512766if it's an f500 company they're going to be screening for iq, so expect to go through 5 rounds of leetcode
>>109512770>leetcode for a ui dev positionWhy?
>>109512679give her some earphones>>109512738>I don't fucking know what to dodocument everything and talk to a lawyer, retard. they won't charge for answering a couple of questions.>6 years being a NEETare you the retard that decided to leave his tech job at the best time to get a high salary do-nothing job in tech?
>>109512800No, I'm a failed gaymedev.
>>109512777LMAOnewgrad or recently laid off xillennial?
>>109512839I've never had a leetcode test for a job that requires experience and I've been interviewing to job hop a lot latelyOnce you have experience they want to know what projects you've worked on and the technical problems you had to work through
>>109512863so xillennial, got it. see here's the thing, projects and experience is easy to bullshit and it's difficult to compare candidates based on the bullshit stories they tell, so for positions 2-7 yoe all these major companies have standardized leetcode interviews because you can't bullshit your way through that (unless you're cheating, which is really obvious).nobody gives a shit about the projects you've worked on, they just want to sift through the applicant pool and find someone that's smart and competent and familiar with their stack, which leetcode effectively filters for. If you can solve this question and explain your solution in 30 minuteshttps://leetcode.com/problems/stone-game-iv/description/?envType=daily-question&envId=2026-08-10you can prompt and build a UI in whatever bullshit framework they want.
>>109512913>familiar with their stack, which leetcode effectively filters forMost retarded post in this thread.
>>109512924> smart and competentyou missed this part
>>109500795>I honestly think there's going to be a reckoning soonNot how it works. Entire industries and civilization can and do become completely dysfunctional, collapse, and never recover.
>>109512945Being good at math puzzles has zero relevance to frontend development and even most backend development. If your goal is just to higher the highest IQ people with no skills, then you might as well just ask them to show you a certified IQ test and skip all the time wasting leetcode bullshit altogether. But that's not any company's goal because that would be fucking retarded.
>>109512977leetcode is logic, not math, and frontend development is a joke for braindead retards. Leetcode is much harder than frontend development. You can teach an codeforces grandmaster how to make some shitty UI for your wordpress website in javascript, you cannot teach some 90iq reactjeet how to build a calculator that can evaluate variable expressions.
how are you holding up on this sunday evening
>>109512913You can do it recursively.Assume you have solved the puzzle for n<k (you can build up an array). You're already given the solutions for n=1 and n=2. You can store the previous results in an array outcomes[N];Setoutcomes[0]=1; //handles subtraction for n a complete squareoutcomes[1]=1;outcomes[2]=0;For n=k, Alice has only a finite number of possible moves, each of the squares s<=k.Subtracting a square leaves Bob with k-s, so he is now in Alices position, with the already computed outcomes[k-s]. If outcomes[k-s]==0, then Alice has put Bob in here previously losing position, and we can set outcomes[k]=1, a win for her.If all outcomes[k-s] ==1, then we set outcomes[k]=0;Repeat by induction up to the required n.
can someone make a new thread?>>109513034thinking of quitting tomorrow. it would be a stupid idea and not really convenient for me, but I'm tired af of this bullshit
>>109513012Why would the frontend ui developer need to build a calculator that evaluates variable expressions when that has nothing to do with his job?
>>109513098>>109513098>>109513098
>>109512913LMAO using leetcode will filter candidates that are good at leetcode aka the top kosher goycattle that will waste hours a day memorizing useless brain tease trivia and would let the boss fuck their ass as long as he told them if was part of the hiring process.
>>109512679>my own home>>live with my grandma Not your home, leech
>>109513107thanks anon
>>109512035Cisco is unironically losing large amounts of business to ubiquiti these days. Small to medium business and campuses are sick of their subscription bullshit. I've been replacing cisco with unifi all summer.
>>109511649>>109511951we can either choose the company phone, or get up to a 300 bucks reimbursement on any phone we BYOD.went with the company phone anyway
>>109512015mmm, good point.guess i'll just be honest then
