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>>109524100>3060>RGB'd out the asshole.>4 sticks of RAMPeople do some strange things.
>>109524178The cat hammock didn't give that away?
>>109524248That actually makes sense. Otherwise the cat would just block the radiator.
every day I think we're closer to a great financial crisis again, look at the US treasuries, they're higher than 2008, Iran won the war and closed the strait, the oil is not flowing, I really think everyone should just buy the upgrades they want right now, make ur pc that will run for the next 5+ years because the near future looks very grim.
>>109524248Oh no, the Cat Hammock is great. If you have a 3D printer, you should absolutely get one of those.
>>109524100That really doesn't seem like a bad idea unless the cat is too fat and will risk rocking the case over. They get a warm bed and the exhaust stays clear.
>>109524100Tell that stupid to get the fuck down from there!
Is this the thickest GPU ever made?
What if I don't want a mechanical keyboard, is there a high quality office or membrane or other keyboard for sale? I never got the meme about people precumming to the sound of these things
>>109524371tmr keyboards are the new fad
>>109524363No, this is.
>>109524393the cooling to surpass metal gear
>>109524363I didn't know they sell a 5090 with low profile bracke-
going from integrated graphics to a 9070 xt has been a paradigm shiftI can actually run the high settings. I can actually play the new game. I can use the fancy graphics mods. I have more frames than I know what to do with bros
>>109524393will it still fly tho?
>>109524496it's gonna be floaty
>>109524100How does the cat get on/off that contraption of its own volition? Seems unsafe for both the cat and the rig...
>>109524616a cat can jump on a desk without any effort. a pc is no problem and most cats don't weigh all that much. my cat would jump from a smaller shelf that was about 1.50 m in height to the top of a shelf of about 2.10 m just to take a nap up there.
>>109524616It's even worse if you don't have the cat hammock, they will simply lie down on top of your PC blocking the exhaust.
>>109524248frankly i wanna know where you bought that, was the entire thing a 3D printed creation or is there a place that sells cat beds you install on top of your pc?
whats with the alc reccomendation? im going to be fps gaming with a usb headset, i shouldnt be that concerned about alc487?
>>109524851The usb headset has its own hardware and driver so it doesn't use the codec. In rare cases there can be conflicts with multiple sound drivers however this is usually not something you should be concerned about. If you don't use the codec at all you can turn it off on some motherboards in the bios.
>>109524777>https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1vj9l2e/buds_hammocks_nonhostile_architecture_for_cats/It's home-made
>>109524899>redditeww, go back anon
>>109524100Hi anons, so my 3080ti has been giving me hard time lately when I raid in WoW classic and my pc just goes black screen and i need to restart mid raid and i think it's my gpu. I will have a technicial over in a few days and we will clean the pc and apply paste to the cpu and general service because i haven't done it since 2022. Also I have some money on the side and I have been thinking on switching to 5080 from 3080ti. Is it a logical upgrade or should i keep waiting? I have some money on the side so it won't be a big dmg on me and i already found a 5080 for 1100 euros. Thoughts?
>>109524899anonny it keeps getting warmer every time you post!
>>109524920Your GPU needs a repaste badlyMy 3090 was also hitting 105C hotspots when I got it last year in January I repasted with ptm7950 and the gpu hotspot is now only 10-12C hotter than the GPU tempsSure, I'd recommend getting the 5080 for 1.1k if it's not much to youThat GPU is 50% faster and generally uses 50-100W less power too
>>109524920I honestly think any 50 series card is way overpriced right now, and they were at launch tooI think if you can't get a 9070xt for $600 $650 I wouldn't buy any card this generationthis has been one of the worst gpu generations of all time in price, performance and driver reliability
this gaming pc is an upgrade meant to be more compact for moving and have an x3d chip. really dont want to spend more than $200 USD on a mb. im probably going to decide on a 9800x3d instead so the cpu can be superior. the SAMA IM01 Pro or Shiny Snake G380 23L would be cool to use instead of the Lian Li because theyre smaller, but it might be too little for my PSU (160mm)
>>109525024sry its 165mm. the G380 says to only support 160mm PSUs. plus my GPU is 312 mm long
considering the 5700X, 5800XT and the 5900XT for processor upgrades and the 9070 for GPU upgrades. Need some advice. Before you suck off the X3D processors they're literally not available here. RAM upgrade to 32gb is coming up in a few months. DDR4 build.
>>109525067you'd be better off waiting for the x3d to become available rather than sinking money into a sidegrade.
>>109525067the 5600 should be enough for a 9070 at 1440p.
>>109525067I'd stick the the 5600 until a €200ish 5800x3d appeared. 5700x3ds reappering might be inevitable once there's enough binned 5800s.
>>109525067china sells x3d chips to the entire world
>>109525067I'm gonna be honest unless you're willing to get assraped and upgrade to AM5 or wait a billion years for the ram crisis to end you're better off buying a 5900XT, the 2-3% difference in framerate is not worth the headache.
>>1095250675900XT, you'll thank me when games begin using 12 cores and all the X3Dkeks self destruct
>>109525183your cpu... is still going to suck by then.
>>109525194>compiles YOUR MOM
>>109525183They'll just upgrade to the 12 core 11800X3D
>>109525207>compiles shaders faster >so he can lose faster due to bad frame rates and frame times
>>109525235x3d sounds good, but benchmarks aren't done of games the way they're meant to be played (with all enhancements from AA all the way up turned OFF)
>>109525252just means i can use the cpu longer since it's faster compared to everything else on the market.
>>109525257You don't have to justify your purchase, since it's an inferior choice.
>>1095251835900XT has 16 cores ackshually. It's a downclocked 5950X. :^)
>>109525319he has a regular 5900x. he wouldn't know.
are SSDs without DRAM still shit? last I checked they could get as slow as a hard drive when near capacity, and the price difference was so small there wasn't even a reason to get one, but now its pretty desperate
got a mounting bracket preinstalled on to my chink resale mobo, best practice for removing these?
>>109525356You can consider the capacity which is the threshold to unacceptable performance loss to not count towards the drive's usable capacity and do your financial maths from there.
>>1095251835900xt has inter ccd lag thoughbeitX3d keks will be on 12-core (zen6) and 16-core (zen7) ccds by then
Looks like the price increases are creeping into the rest of the 5000 series.I bought a 5070 Ti week ago the moment the price increase news popped up.I paid €1070 for it, now it's already going for €1200-€1400This fucker is going to be €2000 next year or even more. People will soon look back to these current prices and call them good.I need to buy the RAM for my next build before it shoots up even more, these price hikes aren't even close to being done.
want to finally upgrade from AM4 for my new buildI feel like I should buy my AM5 motherboard now and just store it away until zen 6 x3d comes out I just don't trust the prices for boards to stay relatively low in the near future.
>>109525458I dunno usually when people expect the price to go up it goes the other way. Ever since covid every ANALyst was wrong about every market move
>finally save enough money to build a PC>Feel guilty spending so much moneyAnyone else have this feeling
>>109524851you need to be latencymaxxing with an ALC1220if sounds come out even a millisecond too late what was the point of building a powerful PC?
I'm anon from yesterday. I convinced my brother not to buy a new PC and upgrade his AM4 instead, but he lost his will to buy anything at all. Hardware companies HATE ME.
opened up the first pc i built at the back of my closet
>>109525600My god, that PSU is upside down!
>>109525533I always feel crappy about spending a ton of money, even though I am relatively well off. At least the upside is that it doesn't last. If I now think about my computers, how much money I spent on them, and how much use I've gotten out of them, I don't have any hard feelings about the money that was spent on them.
>>109524100>>109524248>>109524899i need this
>>109525604How can it be upside down when the text is the correct orientation?
>>109524939>I repasted with ptm7950 and the gpu hotspot is now only 10-12C hotter than the GPU tempsWhat do i need for 3080ti tho?
>>109525660But if you turn it upside down again (as intended), the text will be also in the correct orientation!
what a bad year to buy video cards...
>>109525685We were eating so good ~3 years ago.
>>109525695It's over for Nvidia, they are bankrupt, end-users won once again!
>>109524248This is brilliant.
>>109525704Are you a cat?
>>109525677paste/sheet for the core and thermal pads for the memory/vrm. Idk what exact model you have so I can't say exactly what thickness you need.
>>109525706Maybe. You simply can't be sure.
Why do some people put in RAM by opening both plastic latches, while others open only one? Is it motherboard-specific or personal preference? If the latter, then which method is safer? I'm going to install ram and I really don't want to break it.
>>109525888My motherboard doesn't even have two latches. You can only open up one side.
>>109525888 (checked) the human eye can't see past one plastic latch for the ram slot
>>109525905that's the proprietary ez-latch slots used on older asus boards
quick thoughts on a 5700xt at this price range (around $150USD) in current year?
>>109526172Some anon got a $200 6800xt yesterday
>>109526101This is an MSI board, so it's definitely not that proprietary now.
>>109526176i don't live in the US where you walk into a costco and you might get a prebuilt with 64gb ram for $500 because it's marked for clearancei'm in aus which is sort of like canada right now where the supply chain for hardware is non-existent, so 2nd hand gpus and cpus will always be expensive
>>109526206You're on the wrong forum them this is a an American/European website not AUS.
>>109525905that's pretty much goyware as far as i'm awareits crap since it doesn't have the same kind of feedback from regular latches so you're never sure if the ram is properly secureheck, asus themselves only uses it on their non-flagship strix/rog boards but keep the traditional latches on their serious xoc boards
>>109526274Asus has the tendency to add gimmicks to their board that backfire and then never do them again. For example their q release slim was on all their flagship boards, then people noticed it can damage the PCIe socket and now their refresh boards all have an extra button.
>>109524920>so my 3080ti has been giving me hard time lately when I raid in WoW classic and my pc just goes black screen and i need to restart mid raidGet MSI Afterburner and downlock the GPU boost frequency by -50 ~ -100MHz, and set a stricter power limit (85~90%).You can have these settings apply on OS bootup without needing to load Afterburner every time (look for 'Apply at Windows Startup' button).https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/msi-afterburner-v4-6-7-beta-1-is-approaching.458132/post-6453140>I have some money on the side so it won't be a big dmg on me and i already found a 5080 for 1100 euros.Not a bad price in this crazy market.5080 has plenty of overclocking headroom, NVIDIA kept some performance buffer for the Super model built on the same silicon.
>>109526206for the love of god get something with driver support and that is not at least a decade old, series 20s or rdna 2 is the minimun
I think PC games might be too demanding for too little in return.
>>109526544They're not demanding enough, every single game should be path tracing only and price out all the normies unwilling to buy a 5090. Then gaming can finally begin healing once again instead of getting shittier.
Just switched from console to pc and looking forward to installing mods for some games like Tekken 8. But how do I 100% make sure I'm not downloading malware? I have not downloaded anything yet but the recent news about steam games containing malware got me a little worried
>>109526587You don't, unless you're making the mods yourself there is no way to know 100% that it doesn't contain some form of malware/spyware.
>>109525695Oh yeah
>>109526544it should be illegal to recommend gpus that are discontinued
>>109526587There are sites that you can upload files and they run multiple virus scanners on the file to check if there's anything untoward in it. But you can really just use default Windows security tools + use common sense (download from official sources, download recommended stuff, etc).
Fucking adhesive bullshit...
>spend like 2k euros for midrange build>play nothing but few games from early 2010sNgl Im thinking about going outside and just touching grass. This hobby is dead in the water
>>109526820install linux. free yourself from windows.
>>109526828anon wrote he wants to touch grass and not eat it
>>109526855touching grass feels better after being stuck in vim for an hour
>>109526855eating grass builds character
>2026>not downloading more ramLMAOOOO
>>109526820have you tried buying a 77" oled for an upgraded gaming experience
>>109526913now we can enjoy blown up textures and feeling like our games are from 2010, thanks
>>1095269334k textures and higher resolution
>>109526912zram is basically free ram
>>109526940>high resolution>ppi of 4k at 77 inch is like 57bro...
>>109526940>>109526965You can even see some aliasing behind the intense JPG artifacting, lmao.
>>109524920>5080If you dont play on the best available hardware, can you even consider yourself a true gamer..? 5080 is literally unplayable, you need the 5090 to get the experience the game developers intended for you sm hI had to sell my chair, my desk and my speakers to be able to afford a 5090, but at least im a true gamer now
>>109526979tv niggers are just normalfags who pretend to know everything that is to know about displays
>>109526913>>109526940nice tits and ass? I'll now play your game.
>>109524100I can't decide if I wanna be cheap with my build and do am4 or just spend more on am5..AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>109524920Your 3080 probably needs a repaste, the 30s had some seriously shitty paste applied at the factory. If you're gonna upgrade don't get the 5080 get the 5070 ti or the 5090.
>>109526965>ppi>resare you confused>>109526979probably because he was playing on a ps5/pro at the time not pc>>109526987tvs are better if you wanna hdrmaxx or a large screenmonitors if u wanna hz cope
>>109526987TV retards just watch movies and slop and don't game so they know nothing about what makes a good gaming display.
>>109527010>tvs are better if you wanna hdrmaxx or a large screentoo bad they're not available at the best resolutions (3440x1440, 5120x2160)
>>109527010resolution doesn't mean anything if the pixels are big and the screen is huge retard. esp if you sit close to it like those two retards to "appreciate" the 4k resolution at 57 ppi kek.
At what point did intel do something wrong
>>109527039when they dropped avx-512
>>109527039americans think companies are their friends so they can't resist brandfagging
>>109527012>TV retards just watch movies and slop and don't game so they know nothing about what makes a good gaming display.you are referring to tv techtubers, not tv schizos, who's entire schtick is gaming on tvs>>109527015>low res>bestyou can run ultrawide res on the oled tvs so you are wrong>>109527020resolution is king, higher resolution = more detaillower res higher ppi is worseand you are forgetting about ppd again, distance to displayppi doesnt matter if it's too tiny to see the detailyou niggas are 3/3 wrong so far anything else
>>109527098>resolution is king, higher resolution = more detail57ppi at 77inches with 4k isn't all that much detail. even a 1080p 24 inch screen has more ppi.
>>109527039When they made each generation 5% faster and also required new mobo + Mommy Lisa came.
>>109527039when they thought amd will never catch up and its fine to just rebrand their flagship over and over again
one isn't like the others
>>109527098>you can run ultrawide res on the oled tvs so you are wrongblack bars look bad thoughand 5120x2160 is higher than 4k
>>109527214nigger is beyond retarded and has to spam other peoples opinions on display tech. peak goym.
Opening the Advanced Display tab for some reason makes my GPU a lot more responsive even at the same FPS but only temporary like a couple of minutes then it fades. Is there a way to automate opening this tab on Windows??
>>109527222thats just your opinion bro
>>109527233yeah it's my opinion. i didn't get it from youtube videos unlike some other people in this thread.
>>109527039Intel is actually reasonable this last few generations.There is some mental illness that's been spreading where people suggest AMD mo matter what. Even if it sounds logical on the surface.
>>109527259270K+ is really goodit's essentially a 9950x for 9700x money
>>109527108>57ppi at 77inches with 4k isn't all that much detail. even a 1080p 24 inch screen has more ppi.please reconsider what you just said>>109527214on oled black bars are completley black thoughyes 5k2k is higher than 4k, but the rest of the display is inferior
I am once again posting because idk if I should build a 5600x system or wait longer n get a am5 system. I just wanna be able to play games
>>109527268And it's in a dead socket, so it's hardly reasonable at all for people who care about budget cores. 9900x already lowered to 270k plus price.
>>109527276>yes 5k2k is higher than 4k, but the rest of the display is inferiorit doesn't have to be if 5120x2160 tvs exist, is the point
>>109527268In my country price difference between the 270K+ and 9700x is almost two times.
>>109527268You've also been able to catch some really insane deals with LGA1700 CPUs and mobos, all while still using DDR4But I guess pretending you got a "deal" is better than actual deals this day and age.
>>109527276you are going to see more pixels (and more aliasing) on a 4k screen at 77 inches tv than on a 1080p monitor at 24 inchesi hope that clears things up
>>109527268>4 times the tdp
>>109527290yeah it varies by regionim in a 2nd world country and the 270K is 5 usd cheaper than the 9700x
>>109527306the power of "efficiency" cores just imagine 12 or even 16 p cores
>>109527306270K+ isn't the 14900KS, update your meme bro, it's embarrassing
>>109527289maybe they will revive 8k tvs later uh>>109527303you worded it like you are insinuating that 1080p is more detailed than lower ppi 4k4k has 4x as much data hitting your eyeballs1080p cant be more detailed
>>109527287"Dead socket" retards are going to be the first ones inline for an X970e motherboard
>>1095273069950X power limit = 230W270K plus power limit = 250W250/230 = ?
>>109527318if you are going to sit in front of both at the same distance the 1080p screen is going to look "sharper" and you are going to see more fine "detail" because you won't be distracted by those huge pixels and that aliasing from that low 57 ppi
>>109527322LMAOs@you in my B350 running a 5800x3d.
>>109527338
>>109527340sounds like a disaster waiting to happen
>>109527361ask grok how much the difference is between 199 W and 248 W
>>109527339>same distance from 77" as 24">and you are going to see more fine "detail"you will see more detail on the larger display though you might not like how it looksand it will have more detail because higher resonly way the higher res display to be equal it's so far away you can't tell 1080p detail from 4k
>>109527340Imagine laughing when you have a PCIe 3.0 system
>>109527379>only way the higher res display to be equal it's so far away you can't tell 1080p detail from 4kso what is the point in running a 4k and bragging about it's 4k resolution when it's just a 57ppi piece of shit that is useless outside of consuming content?
>>109527389I also have a 9800x3d system, because I'm not a poorfag who has to shill mediocre intel CPUs that only fit the most contrived of usecases for pennies. Try not buying trash and you'll be able to save some money in the long term, as well.
Intel derangement syndrome is real
>>109527432it's just a vibe
>>109527396at the right distance it looks good and is better than monitorsthat was the whole point, else there would be no point (aside from larger screen for immersion)
>>109527445There's no such right distance. If you fill up your field of view using any 4K panel, you'll notice individual pixels.
what should I build with a $1000 usd budget
>>109527423i own ten 9950X3D2 systems and i only recommend intel
>>109526820I helped build my dad's computer with very budget parts. Played around with it for a week and realized there's nothing I really wanted to play these days. Online AAA games aren't my thing, I'm too old for competitive and totally okay with med settings playing games from 2017 and before and any indie games on a 2nd monitor. I *was* planning to get a new build going but opted not to for the time being. Unless I get a youtube channel going or something.
>>109527432Not my fault they nearly killed themselves with 13th and 14th gen.
>>109527445a 4k 77 inch tv doesn't have such a zone when used as a monitor.
Intel changed its strategy and started selling the goyim a processor with -5% performance? What the fuck?
>>109527498show binning results
>>109527510as always, it's OK when AMD does it
>>109527546amd degradation = user error until proven otherwiseintel degradation = company's fault until proven otherwise
>>109527573this. intel users don't use facts. they only use vibes.
>>109527573AMD figured out that if you never acknowledge any issues they cease to exist
>>109527583>fully agreeing that he's biasedlol
>>109527605>just crank soc voltage to stabilize that ram >it also helps with reaching a higher fclk>just set the pbo limits as high as they go>set tjmax to the highest value so the cpu boosts longer>set pbo scaling to 10x>set llc to extreme to stabilize the higher frequency >bclk overclocking is safe>just set 103mhz>crank vddg ccd, vddg iod and vddp voltage>disable c states and global c state control for lower input>set uncore to oc mode>cpu fries itself>wtf.jpgsome of the worst advice that i have read online when those cpus came out. it already happened with the 5800x3d when it came out but not that bad.
>1080p monitorsIs this even viable for anything else than gaming? Pulled out my old 24"s and it's nigh impossible to browse the internet with this small screen real estate. My current monitor is 34" 3400x1440 and that's starting to feel small when compared to my 42" 5120x2160 (100% scale, get your eyes checked) at the office. I could and would, however, not invest in a rig that runs games at that resolution.
>>109527663I've only ever used 1080p
My 5070 is too weak to run games in resolutions above 1080p, so I have no choice.
Intel got "caught" and still gets shit on because Nvidia literally made a public statement calling their CPUs defective. GAYmers love Nvidia and eat up whatever they say so if you want Intel to be popular with the normies again you need to get leather jacket man to shill them on his next presentation.
>>109527763Just use the magic of DLSS I'm sure it'll make your games run in 4k 900fps
>>109527500I also finally understood that current generation of games are made for brain rotten retards who like extraction looters. If you aint using pc for work its pointless to build pc in atm
>>109527770Nvidia already partnered up with mediatekIt's over
>>109527481ok I understand it's all bait now>>109527516sure it does>>109527663buying sub 4k for general use seems kinda strange
>>109527003Why 5070ti? >>109526454Can this really make a difference to the point that i won't need to repaste?>>109526981I don't even play the latest games lol
>>109526981Real niggas are using arc b580 to play recent games at 4K on high, using XeSS balanced. That's just how it is.
>>1095278535070ti is unironically 88-90% as fast as the 5080 for 25% less money
>>109527787Yeah man, exactly how I feel. These new games have left us boomers behind because they focus on different things. Battlepasses, fast twitch gameplay, a shitload of grinding and general metaslaving to name a few. I don't have the time for this anymore so if productivity is my main focus and I'm not using stuff like Blender or local AI models then I don't necessarily need the top tier stuff.
>>109527906nice, what variant should i aim for? Also does it mog my 3080ti?
>>109526981You sound a little jealous.
>>109527839>sit 60cm away>57 ppi pixel density makes text look like a minecraft block>turning your head to check notifications gives you c5-c6 cervical spine compression>no peripheral vision>can't even see the full screen>sit 1.2m away>100% scaling makes text look like microfiche, forced to use 150% fractional scaling>chromium apps blur, legacy win32 windows look like smeared vaseline>effective workspace shrunk to 1440p>sit 2m away>visual acuity threshold crossed>human eye literally cannot resolve the 4k grid past 1.8m at this size>paid for 4k premium to get an identical experience to a 2012 1080p plasma>desktop icons require a pair of binocularsnice monitor you got there. fucking useless. just working on a panel like that is also not possible. it's a pure cucksoomer experience for normalfags.
>>109525695I wonder if I will ever get another GPU in my life.I was planning for the 6090 but it seems less likely now to even come to market.
WHY DOES NO ONE REPLY TO ME
>>109527981yes?
>>109527906And you can easily OC it to 5080 default performance.
>>109527981you bought the wrong brand, you're an outcast now
>>109527935Gigabyte Gaming OC is a very good option and one of the coolest ones.I have it and it has the exact same cooler as my Gigabyte Gaming 5090, it's a massive brick.Just make sure it actually fits into your case.5070 Ti should be at least 40% faster in gayming and probably even faster in AI related things, due to newer architecture that supports new optimizations.
>>109527963>>sit 60cm awayyou can't this would be retardedimpossible on 77 impossilbe on 55maybe doable on 42" at best>>sit 1.2m awaygood for 55" 4k>>100% scaling makes text look like microfiche, forced to use 150% fractional scalinghow are you gonna have it, does 4k look tiny or not?>>sit 2m awaymaybe good for 77"you made zero sense in this post overall not sure what the goal wastldr just use it at an appropriate distance like a monitor
>>109528144non of those are going to look good or better than a monitor at 60cm
>>109528158>at 60cm
>>109528217sorry. i am sitting at a desk that is 80 cm deep. i can move it further to 70cm.
>>109524178RGB lighting scares schizos, but it's cheap.>>109526544>minimum settings: 8 gen old intel or 4 gen old amd + 2-4 gen old nvidia, whatever the fuck a vega-56 is, and a one gen old intel>recommended is a 3 gen old i5 or 1 gen old ryzen (so much for amd being stronger I guess) + a current budget card or a one gen old upper midranger>ultra is the same cpu but with overclocking enabled + a one gen old high end card for a normal res, or a 5090 if you're a retard who really wants to pretend 4k native is viable in 2030-4>all of them are WITHOUT DLSS/FSR/XESS/TSRHow poor and out of touch are you that this is "demanding too much"? Pic related is a random 7th gen multiplat game from 2012. Notice something? You should. The minimum GPU for this 2012 game is from 2006. This old multiplat console port had a six year old GPU as its minimum requirements. The processor was likewise 6 years old, at the time of release.This new game you're complaining about having "too high" requirements? Despite not being ported from as WEAK and ANEMIC a console as an xbox 360 or ps3 were, has a minimum required GPU that is TEN years old (1070) and a minimum required CPU that is NINE years old. The minimum and recommended specs are MORE forgiving than in older games from an era where everything but Crysis and Arma were tailored for 2005 dx9.0c/ogl hardware for an eight year period.
>>109528335>scaresIt's gaudy. It's excessive. It contributes nothing to the performance of the machine. Hell, it makes DDR5 even hotter.
AMD computers are so fast once you actually unbottleneck them holy shit
9070 gre or 9060 xt?
>>109527039They went 10 generations without meaningful gains and by the time they started doing well again, the internet had already devolved into influencers, grifters, and shills preaching brand loyalty to willing cattle. You've already seen it manifest in Raptor Lake vs Ryzen 9000 series, where both had issues related to bad mobo/bios settings, but one of them got blamed on the CPU while the other blamed the mobo manufacturer instead. >>109527663Office work and shit like discord are the only places 1080p still makes sense. 1080p for gaming is obsolete and only held onto by poor retards and rich retards who get given new systems with 5090s to stream on while still using their 1080poverty monitor because they're too stupid to realize the bottleneck they've created.
>>109528613poor intel shills, they have to try really hard, these days.bad mobo/bios settings were so ubiquitous that poor intel had to issue a microcode update to change them across all vendors, very very sad. tzar good, boyars bad!
>>109527389lol my x570 board supports pci-e gen 4, nerd. 5700x3d chads stay winning.
>>109528603rabbit cards are gay
>>1095286039070 GRE is a scam. Original 9070 non-XT MSRP that falls way short.
>>109528902It's like only like $70 more than the 9060 xt
>>109528902and it's still a better deal than a 9060xt, reminder that a 9060xt 16GB is closer to $500 nowadays lolof course this is all AMD upselling the shit out of their 9070xt, but alas
>>109528227seems like a (You) problem
I had a cat (RIP) that slept on top of my case. It put flea dirt all inside the computer. One time it puked all down the back of it, most didn't get inside but it got all over the io.
Can you help me out with choosing a mobo for 9800x3d, 9700xt, one pcie 4 ssd build? Maybe another ssd if prices ever get sane.I've ruled out asrock for x3d and filter by pcie lanes + ALC1220, still totally lost. 1 star customer reviews for 650, 850 and 870s make it look like msi, asus and gigabyte have horrible QC, and dealing with troubleshooting/rma on brand new parts that cost an arm and a leg is not something I really want to do.
>>109529424Sorry, forgot to mention, I am planning on ATX if there's no clear solid option in other format.
>>109529424Asus b650e or b850eAsus has a deal with AMD to have the latest BIOS shit since they also make Rog Xbox.
Yeah, baby! Back to AM4!
So i just got told a few posts ago that 5070ti is the only 5*** that's really worth it besides the 5090? Why is it so good? Did it age well?
should I build for 1440p or just stick to 1080p? is it really that big of a difference
>>109529696it's the best price:performance card in the 50xx. The 5090 is only recommended if you want the halo card at any cost (and oh what a cost.)
>>109529720what's current monitor size and do you plan to upgrade it? 24" 1440p probably won't make much of a difference unless you can see individual pixels with your current viewing distance.
>>109529720regardless you would be upscaling to 4k and using a 4k display
Waitfags, we've never been more right. Now we wait harder than we've ever waited.
>>109529720it's 100% subjective, go see some screens in AFK life, bring a laptop to see how you like them in action
>>109529748I currently have a 24 inch 320hz
>>1095297201440p is the sweetspot>>1095297524k is a meme
>>109529781>1440p is the sweetspot>4k is a memeludditemaxxing is not a good thing
>>109529768If you're fine with that I'd stick to it. 27" 1440p is bigger of course but the recommended viewing distance is also farther away at 80cm.
>>1095272097800x3d is 266€. Thanks to AI not needing gaming cpus.
i see he found a new follower today
disappointed with rdna flagship, 36gb is not enough, rdna6 better have 48gb + 3d vcache l3 layer on the gpu
>>109529849Rdna are gaming GPUs you want their compute GPUs instead
>>109529696the 5070 TI is a good gaming GPU.the 5090 is only good for AI, but having 2x 5070 TI's together is like 85% of single 5090, but not every AI runtime supports multi-gpu setups (I think AI images still use 1 GPU, but LLMs and AI video should support multi-gpu). And a 5090 is a bit better for gaming+AI since you can't really play games with 2 GPU's yet (DLSS 5 incoming).But the 9070 is a better GPU in bang per buck for gaming (mainly because gddr7 is so expensive compared to gddr6, AMD is 25% cheaper now, usually AMD is between 0-20% cheaper than nvidia). But it depends on which games you are playing.The 5070 is a downgrade over the 9070 since the 9070 is so cheap, but if you really need nvidia features / very specific software (like blender), and you can't afford spending $300 for 4gb more vram + can't go AMD, go for the 5070.The 5060 TI / 9060 16gb variants are not real 16gb GPU's, because they just double up the chips (this is similar to filling up all 4 ram slots on your motherboard, you get more ram, but zero FPS boost, because the bandwidth is the same as having 2 slots, it's kind of a waste of GPU ram since you can't utilize the full bandwidth of the extra chips...). So basically if you play games that run under 8gb of vram, the 8gb version of the 5060 / 9060 is fine (you get what you paid for, you should stick with 16gb if you are on a 4k monitor).
>>109528603Just save up a bit more for a 5070/5070Ti.
amd are just a bunch of sheep always following whatever nvidia does lmao there was no reason for them to up their prices as well fuck them
>>109529781>1440p is the sweetspotthis was before the TAApocalypse
I DONT KNOW WHAT TO BUILD ARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
>>109530003AMD is better than Intel & Nvidia their prices were low for far too long
>>109530016ryzen 550016gb ddr4b5801tb ssd1080p games on ultra rigjust use integer scaling on your 4k panelLET ME GUESS...
>>10953001614900k + DDR5 for the ultimate lowest latency setup.
>>109530016pick a theme and find parts for it. Stop building just for high score, start building for what makes your heart soar.
Amazon is the best place to scam myself with a 5800X3D at the moment, right? Currently $339.95.Newegg is giving away some 240mm AIO with it but:>240mm>$40 quality
>>109530016I went back a generation.
>>109530227why?
>>109530237I sold my AM5 rig to my brethen, because he plays newer games, so he doesn't have to buy DDR5 on current prices. I move back to my good ol' AM4, and wait for the end of this RAM crisis.
>>109530227am4?
>>109530276Bro you're gonna be in a nursing home sucking down tapioca pudding by then...
>>1095302804AM
>>109530276an actual end of ram crisis soon or is this the new normal and baseline for prices going forward indefinitely?
>>109530301Actually, RAM being so cheap was the bubble! We're back to the real normal!
>>109530291>>109530301Yeah, I know it won't end soon, not next year for sure, but the shit I play are usually 8+ years old anyway. This build has a 5700X and I'll keep my 7800 XT, so I'll lose a few % of performance, but it's not the end of the world.
>>109530321sounds smart and I too mainly play older gamesbut for me there are still lots of AA games that come out regularly that I would like to play at high settings and they do require having a decent PC with the latest specs I may have to cuck myself and get CL36 ram instead of CL30 but I don't think it is that much of a massive disadvantage
>>10952984936gb is more than enough for gayming/consoomers
>>109530371Oh, and it's funny, because I play WuWa, and 7600X isn't supported for 120 FPS mode, but the 5700 is kek
>>1095304167600x is a 6 core and the 5700 is an 8 core so they probably set it up so only 8core CPU LS are supported.
Is there ever going to be a perfect monitor that has the best specs of an office, art and gaming monitor but none of the cons?
>>109530558MicroLeds exist and its only a matter of (long) time before they become monitor-sized and affordable.
>>109530558no since the goals posts will be shifted on what is considered a "con"
>>109530558autists will always complain about something
>>109530557Yeah, but it's still bullshit though, because the 7600X stomps that 5700X in core performance. That game isn't that rough on CPU anyway, not sure why they limit it to 8-cores only.
Just built my first pc ever. Was wondering whether it's a risk to put a figurine on the outer edge of my b580? It doesn't seem to exceed 46° but I'd rather be safe than sorry
