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previous >>109450883

READ THE (temp)WIKI! & help by contributing:
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Home_server

/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. Know all about NAS? Learn virtualization. Spun up some VMs? Learn about networking by standing up a OPNsense/PFsense box and configuring some VLANs. There's always more to learn and chances to grow. Think you’re god-tier already? Setup OpenStack and report back.

>What software should I run?
Install Gentoo. Or whatever flavor of *nix is best for the job or most comfy for you. Jellyfin/Emby/Plex to replace Netflix, Nextcloud to replace Googlel, Ampache/Navidrome to replace Spotify, the list goes on. Look at the awesome self-hosted list and ask.

>Why should I have a home server?
De-botnet your life. Learn something new. Serving applications to yourself, your family, and your frens feels good. Put your tech skills to good use for yourself and those close to you. Store their data with proper availability redundancy and backups and serve it back to them with a /comfy/ easy to use interface.

>Links & resources
Cool stuff to host: https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted
https://reddit.com/r/datahoarder
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/index
https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Features
ARM-based SBCs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PGaVu0sPBEy5GgLM8N-CvHB2FESdlfBOdQKqLziJLhQ
Low-power x86 systems: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LHvT2fRp7I6Hf18LcSzsNnjp10VI-odvwZpQZKv_NCI
SFF cases https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AddRvGWJ_f4B6UC7_IftDiVudVc8CJ8sxLUqlxVsCz4/
Cheap disks: https://shucks.top/ https://diskprices.com/
PCIE info: https://files.catbox.moe/id6o0n.pdf
>i226-V NICs are bad for servers
>For more SATA ports, use PCIe SAS HBAs in IT mode
WiFi fixing: pastebin.com/raw/vXJ2PZxn
Cockpit is nice for remote administration

Remember:
RAID protects you from DOWNTIME
BACKUPS protect you from DATA LOSS
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Does a Threadripper in a tower count as a home server?
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>>109541053
Does it provide digital services?
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This general is probably one of the worst on the site that is still active at this point.
If we wanted to give it a fighting chance we could probably improve the thread text very easily. The current one sucks and is crazy outdated.
>the wiki sucks
>no one on here even knows if OpenStack is actually hard or not, and you could scrap that whole stupid section
>"Install Gentoo" is terrible advice, yeah I know it's a meme
>install a "flavor of *nix" is about as good as saying "well m'lad you'll need an operating system :)"
>Nextcloud is bloated shit and every time it comes up in the thread we dump on it because of how bad it sucks, so no one even believes what's written there
>Install Jellyfin/Emby/Plex is fine but... yeah? Obviously?
>awesome-selfhosted is useful but long and full of stuff hardly anyone's going to actually want
>linking to /r/Datahoarder is basically just linked to a bunch of news articles, circlejerks, and no-info build pics
>If you follow the - i think pretty typical - path through that /r/homelab wiki (home > software) the first thing you see is a link to Microsoft Azure, or try hardware, you get a guide last updated 6 years ago
>every Google doc is way too much information, not easily sortable even with the filters becausethey don't stick to sortable names in the columns, it just sucks
>shucks.top: literally dead
>pcie info pdf is just a bunch of contextless slides which don't make sense unless you already know about pcie
>once every 2 or 3 threads we get someone asking why not to use i226-V NICs and NO ONE ever knows the answer
I'm bitching here but seriously this thread starter sucks so bad it's unreal.
How about:
>First you need a use case, see if any of this software interests you (commonly used shortlist)
>You need something to run it on, and a server is just any computer that is always on, possibly with a preference for idle power consumption
>These CPUs have low TDPs
>These cases fits lots of drives
>These parts are expensive for now
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>>109541042
lol
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>>109541195
>once every 2 or 3 threads we get a angry jeet asking why not to use i226-V NICs, someone posts pic related, the angry jeet doubles down with "works on my imaginary machine" despite any evidence shown.
fixed.
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>>109541324
"some users" which can be anywhere from 2 people to 99% of people. Either way, that's obviously an annoyance, but I think the issue for /hsg/ specifically is probably going to be that it doesn't support SR-IOV.
Original author could have meant either one of these things. We'll never know because it doesn't say why in the thread starter.
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>>109541195
I agree Nextcloud is bloated shit and I can't even get it to reliably back up files from my phone. I could understand rolling it out as an enterprise ecosystem/solution if you have a bunch of users and a team (or at least somebody smarter than me) to manage all its services/plugins.

That said, I want a self-hosted password manager with browser extensions and android integration that I could port my nextcloud password db over to. And something that will reliably back up my fucking phone pictures, at minimum.

What's the right solutions(s) from a "just works" standpoint? No hinky shit.
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>>109541379
>specifically is probably going to be that it doesn't support SR-IOV
even if it was in the OP they dont care about any of that. they see chink noname minipc with 4 ethernet ports (i226v) and they go
>this is my perfect homelab, it's flawless
it's a mixture between actively protecting their izzat and a sunk cost fallacy, you can not reason with them.

for example in the last few threads we had that one angry jeet arguing like
>actually a cloud subscription is better than having your own hard drives
>actually a stock desktop cpu cooler is better than any custom cooler
>actually a shitass pcie-sata temu adapter is better than any lsi hba card
it's the same jeet spamming his chatgpt hallucinations, just ignore him and move on, usually defending his own bait like his life depended on it.
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>>109541195
I agree the general has been on life support for years now. I thought about contributing to the wiki before the last move but there's no direction/priority or shared interest in anything so I wouldn't even know what gets used on a regular basis.
Also there was a lot of drama about wiki rights back then I just avoided the mess. Now it seems more like an archive of past /hsg/ than an active wiki.
>First you need a use case, see if any of this software interests you (commonly used shortlist)
>You need something to run it on, and a server is just any computer that is always on, possibly with a preference for idle power consumption
>These CPUs have low TDPs
>These cases fits lots of drives
>These parts are expensive for now
Pretty much all of these are already within one click of the wiki page. The only thing missing maybe is the usecase which is already mentioned in the OP. Are you saying the wiki landing page is too long and it should be more concise or something?
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>truenas SCALE
>have 7x18TB raidz2 array (refurb drives)
>2 drives start failing
>remove from pool and RMA them
>pool works fine
>install replacement drives
>first attempt at resilver stalls at 0.05%, estimated time remaining only goes up
>shutdown, try removing drives
>remaining drives show as "exported" and pool is offline
>plug new drives back in
>takes a few reboots but pool eventually starts working again
>entire system crashes around 5%
>reboot again, disconnect all drives, export pool and re-import
>boots up and resilver proceeds normally
>leave for a few hours
>come back, resilver is now nearing 10% but many drives showing checksum errors
>but pool is still accessible
am I fucked? I was able to backup the little bit of data that would be difficult to reacquire and everything appears normal, resilver is even still running with a reasonable completion time estimate
I hate SCALE so much, replacing drives was infinitely easier under core and I never had these problems
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>>109541571
I use git synced password-store. Browser integration with auto fill and there's an android app that mostly works but the fdroid one is worse than the google play store one. There's good plugins too.
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>>109541759
also sdb is showing read/write errors while the other drives just show checksum errors. I'm pretty sure this is one of the new drives (SCALE doesn't use persistent letter assignments so it's kind of a guessing game when I have to replace one).
I would consider trying to remove it from the pool and resilver/scrub without it, but it won't let me offline the drive stating the "pool i/o is disabled", presumably because of the ongoing resilver, even though I can still access the shares/data. if I just shutdown and unplug it the entire pool shows as "exported" and isn't accessible, and attempting to import it back with less than the full 7 drives fails with an i/o error.
in CORE I could just remove a drive and the pool would remain accessible and online though in a degraded state.
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>>109541829
update: one of the CPU threads had hanged, so I rebooted, underclocked the CPU and disabled XMP, now to wait and see what happens
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>>109541042
so i'm confused about home servers, is it for people who have thousands of dollars worth of Media on DVD/VHS or is it for people who have been downloading stuff since the early 2000s? cause I have nothing downloaded and no DVD/VHS/blue rays. Everything that I have currently is streamed from paramount+ netflix etc. Am I just fucked?
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>>109542109
It's for people that don't want to use or pay for streaming platforms.
>Am I just fucked
idk what's your goal
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>>109541928
so, it just keeps failing, and when I was last able to access the pool most of the data was missing/inaccessible, though a few files still worked normally
I exported the pool and am running SMART long tests on all the drives to see which ones fail, but it seems like checksum errors could also be due to the HBA card failing/overheating.
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>>109542314
exported the pool and started SMART long tests on all 7 drives
4 of them show tests in progress if I run smartctl -l but 3 don't, however attempting to start another test on those drives gives me a message stating a test is in progress
I'm assuming the 2 new drives are DOA and a third failed during resilver
data is replaceable as it was basically just a giant pool for torrents and a bunch of blurays I ripped myself
tests should be finished by tomorrow afternoon
assuming I have 4 functional drives, can I make a new raidz2 pool with those 4 and then expand it to include the other 3 later after RMA, or do I need all drives present at pool creation to get the full capacity?
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>>109542109
>I have nothing downloaded and no DVD/VHS/blue rays
>Everything that I have currently is streamed from paramount+ netflix etc
There are two types of people in this world:
People who thought movies looked amazing in movie theaters because the screen was huge and people who thought movies at the theater looked like shit because they are STILL using SDR 1080p projectors that they bought in 2004.

Both people stopped going to the theatre because in both cases it wasn't worth the money.
If you can't understand the complaints of the person in the second example then you probably wont understand the benefits of having any sort of infrastructure at home either.

Have you ever seen a soundbar at Walmart?
Do you own one? Do you know why they are needed? Do you think they are a waste of money?
They aren't, but if all you do is watch Marvel stop on Disney+ on your Roku streaming stick then you are squarely outside of the demographic of people who need one.
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>>109541759
you really tried resilvering 7 18tb, you are so fucked. is that a single giant vdev?
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>>109541759
>am I fucked?
I have zero experience with ZFS arrays, but that looks pretty fucking dire.
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>>109541571
imo, it's KeepassXC (or DX on a phone) and file syncing the password database.
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>>109541571
keepass xc/dx + syncthing
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>>109541571
For me it's Vaultwarden

>>109541759
I feel like I see posts like this every other week here, not sure if they're all you but it makes me think that maybe RAIDZ is a bad idea
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>>109541724
I think the use cases that you could glean from the OP are underbaked. They're media servers and kind of obvious (Jellyfin, Navidrome), or bad suggestions (Nextcloud).
When people do post what they're running in these threads there's usually the same 15-20 services that pop up over and over again. For a potential home server user that would probably be useful for them because it's a list of what people actually find consistently valuable.
I would hazard that maybe a survey could get what people in /hsg/ use most and we could display that in the thread starter, but it's got its own issues. We could also go back and look at people who have posted their service lists and compiled a "you probably want these" list from there.
The wiki is probably a bit of a bigger and more contentious topic, but I think a lot of what is written there is either wrong (which is where correcting it might be contentious), misprioritised, or buried in a bunch of useless info dumping. It's often vague as well, not specific enough to actually be able to make a decision with.
Focusing on that Home Server page, it puts cart before horse by getting right into hardware before the reader even knows what they might want to do with it. The lead has NAS and streaming. So much of the thread starter reduces down to "run Jellyfin" like that. Picrel is the closest thing it has to a "what can I even do with this thing?" section and its 80% of the way in, and all it does is link to the awesome-selfhosted list.
All the rest of the stuff in there is abstract if you don't know what you might use a server for. Hardware, containers, different ways of deploying software are all floating around in the ether and unrooted until you know what you might actually run on them.
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>>109542160
i wanna watch TV like the early 2000s but I don't own a single media to do so with nostalgiaTV

>>109542422
i mean I also have never owned a home either, so maybe thats where my mentality comes from of just renting shit.
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>>109541195
This place has the same issue any other tech """community""" has, most people are miserable shitstains that hate technology and even more so trying out new things. No I am not talking about AI but if you dear imbecile reader immediately felt that impulse to chimp out and go on a twitter tirade about it good job proving my point. Nigger.
The boards dogshit moderation doesn't help either. There is no point in contributing because seemingly the only people left here are running jellyfin, xyzCloud and maybe syncthing then call that a homelab. Any discussion about actual tech is pointless because as you already realized people here are just fucking cargo culting.
The last time I seriously tried engaging this shithole general years ago before LLMs came along people just asked why I would possibly want to do xyz? No fucking point effort posting.
This shithole board is dying for the same reason ShitOverflow died basically over night, when you have nothing to offer but a miserable crabs-in-a-bucket circlejerk that's decided to congregate around tech when you hate technology people ditch you at the first chance they think something better has come along which in this case just happened to be LLMs. Same reason reddit killed forums, discord killed reddit, it doesn't matter if the new thing is actually better, people just get tired of the bitter miserable self-hating misanthropes.
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>>109543358
yes
it's resilvered fine many times before
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>>109544982
Take your meds.
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>>109545034
>pre-empt the AI chimpout
>can't come up with anything else
q.e.d.
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>>109545056
>rant about shit that didn't happen
>I win because I pre-empted it
Again, meds.
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>>109545065
>illiterate miserable shitstain
>doesn't even understand the post
>seething he can't shit out his copy paste rant about AI and got called out on it
>continues to prove my point he still doesn't begin to grasp
Keep going please.
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>>109545089
Do you actually think that I'm not local hosting an LLM in a home server thread? Have you ever been in these threads?
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>>109545105
>he is actually illiterate
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>>109544982
You speak a bit harshly and are needlessly combative, but yes, I essentially agree with your points.
No way are we going to be able to solve every problem at once, so for now I'm just thinking about how the thread starter could be better.
I suffer under the continued delusion that a website could, in theory, be good. Even if whatever we could come up with that improves on the thread goes elsewhere to be used, that's fine.
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>nobody mentions AI
>YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF ANTI-AI LUDDITES
>nobody still mentions AI
>SEE?
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>>109542422
Pretty funny that you are going to bat for soundbars of all things here, with the argument you're making.
Get some proper speakers.
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>>109545171
Treating soundbars as some kind of mythical elite thing seems pretty bizarre. Soundbars are mainstream as fuck. Even my mom has one.
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>>109545171
>>109545261
i was a bit confused reading that sentence as well. while they are a step above just using the built-in tv speakers, they're still the bare minimum. if you care about watching movies you bought a 5.1 channel system 30 years ago
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>>109545261
>>109545330
>You think you know quality?
>Listen here you pleb m'lad
>Now let me tell you
>Whatcha wanta do is get yourself one a these
>Walmart soundbars
>I am very quality-pilled
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>>109542418
Depends on how you want to expand it and what version of zfs you have. Newer versions let you expand vdevs, ie adding a drive to a 3 drive raidz1 to make it a 4 drive raidz1. You can't change it to a different raid type though. You could also just make the raid in a degraded state. I'm not sure how you go about this, but I've heard that it is an option. Sounds like you should just make sure you have a new enough version and try to expand the vdev later.
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>>109541042
I AM A SYSTEM OPERATOR
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>>109541042
I laugh every time I see this Op image. No clue what the reference is

anyway, I got the best case in existence for $80. fractal define R5

God bless Facebook marketplace
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>>109544638
I don't think nextcloud is a bad suggestion I just think there's not a lot of viable alternatives. Or to build out a suite that covers what you want from nextcloud you need to host like 10 different things. Home assistant is kinda the same story for me, it's designed around appealing to normies and makes too many compromises along the way. There's no other alternative though so you just kinda put up with it.
I agree the wiki landing page is too long. Software should be first condensed to maybe a paragraph per section and sub pages that go into more detail. Then hardware after. Also sub pages for storage, networking, compute, etc and the same kind of tldr paragraph for each section on the landing page. Also there should be an LLM page now.
>>109544874
Most people pirate movies or shows. Some people rip physical media but it's a lot more inconvenient and annoying to do properly. Storage is pretty expensive right now but you can get a 4tb hard drive and start loading the stuff you like on it.
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>>109546647
idk how to pirate movies/shows. Well I do but I can't use torrents because the second I do I get a letter from my ISP, I guess i'm fucked. Also i can't afford a 4tb hdd right now.
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>>109546230
>anyway, I got the best case in existence for $80. fractal define R5
Man you got hosed on the price.
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>>109546906
show me a listing where it's less
(you can't)
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>>109546929
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>>109546895
I pay $5/month for a vpn for remote access to my stuff and to get around ISP letters, I used to get those too. I use AirVPN, it works fine with both wireguard and openvpn.
Technically you don't NEED a 4TB drive. The lowest quality 1080p movies you'll find are around 1-2GB each. Decent quality will run you 7-10GB. Top quality will be 40-100GB. TV Shows get pretty big being between 500MB and 3GB per episode depending on the quality you want. 10GB tier will be better quality than streaming services, 1GB tier will be cable quality. Also pre 80s movies usually are smaller because there's no 1080p version of those.
4tb was always the starting point I recommended but they're expensive brand new now. You can store anywhere from 10-1000 movies on a 1tb drive and can probably get one for $10 on marketplace.
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>>109546895
i pirate with bare ip and have never gotten a letter, must be a (you) problem
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>>109547130
okay now get that shipped to America and convert all the fees to usd
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>>109547222
Ah yes, the country where everything is more expensive: United States of America.
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I AM A FUCKING SYSADMIN
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>>109547186
no its an America problem.

>>109547172
don't know where you're getting a $5/month VPN from unless you paid for the entire year, cheapest VPN is $10/month if you don't pay for the year, also I would still not know where to even download from.
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>>109547186
I've never gotten one, but I also don't want to, so I have a VPN.
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>>109547502
I told you where I get it from and yeah I do the yearly.
>I would still not know where to even download from.
The piracy subreddit usually keeps a list of public trackers to download from.1337x comes up a lot.
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>>109547761
no idea what that subreddit is.
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>>109547825
That's too bad I guess the dream is dead. Should've started it back when search engines existed.
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>>109547925
What do you expect of the guy? A little basic initiative? This is /hsg/!
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>>109547130
>white 2.5" racks
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I have a case that fits 10 drives with 6 currently installed. I have a 4x SATA PCIe card lying around. Any reason why I shouldn't use it over getting an HBA?
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Should I put freshtomato or dd-wrt on my R7000?
Im mainly doing it bc it stopped getting updates, & may tinker with home server stuff later on.
open-wrt seems to be out of the question as it doesn't support wifi correctly for it.
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>>109551701
I think I'll go with FreshTomato, people seem to have used both but it seems slightly better?
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>>109549649
Those are 3.5" trays.
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>>109551170
>Any reason why I shouldn't use it over getting an HBA?
Chances are that it's shit.
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>>109551170
HBA's tend to be far more reliable than onboard/pcie sata controllers. Moving your storage to a new system would be less stressful as well.
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>>109552081
>>109552493
Thank you.
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>>109541042
so I finally moved my wireguard server from my home server to a dedicated pi zero in read only mode. attached an ethernet hat and run the stack raw without docker. it uses like 150mb of ram total so I am pretty content with it. my only issue is that i had to vibe slop my own utility scripts to generate wg configs from templates. I had the scripts reviewed by different agents until all the holes in the system were filled but it's still vibe slopped code after all. did I re-invent the wheel by chance? I had to be conservative with how much stuff I put on the thing because it's meant to run on 512mb of ram (or storage considering it's on read only mode)
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>>109544982
tl;dr
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>>109551170
Post the chip. People get reflexive when you question HBAs because they are "the accepted solution".
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>>109553778
are you constantly changing your configs, do you just run like 50 tunnels or why would you even need to script generating the configs?
tbf i have no idea about the performance of wg on raspi zero but I can't imagine its too good
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>>109542109
It's for people who enjoy fucking around with computer & network hardware and setting up operating systems and various network-enabled software. Using it to watch movies is just one potential use case. You can host your own document storage, a chat server, game servers, your own DNS server, crypto nodes, tor node, your own VPN tunnel to access everything remotely including your home WAN connection, etc.
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>>109551701
>It is not recommended that you use config files from previous updates in current updates
Is this a joke, who designs software that makes you reconfigure everything every time there's an update
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>>109553778
Can you even get decent bandwidth with a Zero?
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>>109553778
the only pi i bought and used was an original 1b. from what i understand the zero is basically just a smaller 1(b), and i know from experience those have very, very slow cpus by even 2012 standards. anything not accelerated was basically pentium II speeds, i can't imagine wireguard running very quickly on such a machine in ideal conditions
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>>109545538
so I think I've solved it
apparently the HBA was overheating, and one of the new drives appears to be bad
I disconnected the new drive that was giving read/write errors and I pulled the side panel off and pointed a box fan at the HBA and am no longer getting checksum errors and resilver is proceeding as normal, with a reasonable time estimate (~30 hours)
I'll have to do some more tests to see if the new drive really is bad, it passed SMART but I might try badblocks and see what happens
as for the HBA I'll have to either get another one that doesn't run so hot or just slap a 40mm fan on the heatsink and hope for the best
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Anyone use xpenology here? Got an elite desk 800 g5 I want to use as an off-site backup and I figured I'd try and have it match my main Synology
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>>109556278
>as for the HBA I'll have to either get another one that doesn't run so hot or just slap a 40mm fan on the heatsink and hope for the best
Were you running the HBA without any cooling?
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>>109557269
it's a dell h310 flashed to IT mode, it has a small passive heatsink attached but apparently wasn't getting adequate airflow
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I literally fell for the mini pc meme

>little box
>very little fan
>Runs 24/7
>dust kills the heatsink in a month, shit overheats and shuts down
>I need to clean the fan once a month
>also i need to repaste cpu heatsink 2-3 times every year
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>>109556278
>40mm fan on the heatsink and hope for the best
That's more than plenty, but these cards do need some level of airflow to not overheat.
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>>109557439
>dust kills the heatsink in a month, shit overheats and shuts down
How?
The problem is you and your disgusting jeet-tier house full of dirt, not the mini-pc.
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>>109544352
I use Vaultwarden too. Not sure how secure it is, but it seems legit from the reviews. I am tempted to put a small crypto wallets pass phrase in it to see if it gets hacked to see if the devs have auto-backdoors.
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My HBA cooling is probably overkill.
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>>109557589
My pc fans survive a year or so without any cleaning. But mini PC fan is different. Small, runs faster and has almost zero tolerance for dust
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>>109557678
I just recently opened my HP mini PC with almost the exact same fan.
It has been running 24/7 for almost two years and only had a very thin layer of dust inside, with almost nothing next to the fan.
Seriously, clean your house. You're breathing that same shit you see on your fans.
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>>109557844
this is gaslighting. I live next to a highway and multiple apartments were demolished just across the street. I know there is more dust here but i'm 100% aware that fan won't survive two years without any cleaning even if you live in some remote forest house.
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>>109558260
>this is gaslighting
This is me trying to motivate you into not being a filthy nigger.
But yeah, i probably do have cleaner air outside my window than 99% of the population.
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what's a good atx case with at least 7 bay 3.5 support
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I had Claude slop up a parts list for a mini-rack, after some tips from a friend. How's this list?

The intent is a data server for storing many TB of market data, and I'd be streaming to my desktop or copying over large chunks for local work. It will not be doing any intense compute like model training/inference or running a node.

I've never built a PC before and don't really know much about it. I like the mini-rack format over small cases like the Jonsbo case. I think since my actual compute needs are low the Mini-ITX format is fine, and 10GbE seems important since I intend to transfer data a lot.
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>>109558694
>samefag
My friend had recommended this mobo/CPU, but the AI's consistently recommend against it.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CPVQZLQV/?coliid=I312WJV8RUVAKN&colid=2KTATHKMAR57R&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1

TIA for any help. Haven't had the energy to research it enough to finalization, but do wanna get it done.
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>>109557345
for the 1000000th time, any server hba was designed with a heatsink that requires a certain amount of air flowing through the case at all times. slapping it in an arc case with no direct airflow will kill it. also the h310 is a lsi 9200 series card so it's PowerPC and WILL cook itself. Point a case fan at it. Can't believe I'm replying to this bait.
>>109558602
fractal makes one I think but the name escapes me. You should be able to find it.
>>109557439
change your thermal paste or use ptm7950. Better thermal transfer means the fan can run at lower speeds.
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>>109558694
>>109558699
looks fine to me. everything looks like it'll work. no clue about that rack solution. it'll be louder than a normal case, but functionally no issues
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>>109558803
Thanks. Not missing anything major? Hoping to get everything ordered at once to put together the same weekend. The racks look pretty cool imo, like how modular they are versus a normal case. I almost went with a Jansbo case until my friend told me about these 10" mini racks.
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>>109559044
ask Claude if he made any mistakes retard
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>>109559139
The point of me looking for feedback is exactly that, to get real human eyes on the parts list as a final check..
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>>109558602
Fractal Design Define 7

>>109558727
I have the side panel off with a fan blowing on it for now
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>>109558694
>storing many TB
Small enough to fit on a couple of nvme sticks?
Or so large it'll need a few 3.5-inch drives?
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>>109559973
A few 3.5"s, I'd like the rack to be able to hold at least 4 20TB HDDs for a total of 80TB max capacity.

HDDs are actually fine here because the data is essentially a recorded tape and replayed sequentially as one so the spinning disk works well, at least that's my understanding.
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>>109554328
It's one of these cheap things, with an ASM1064 chip.
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>>109541195
>once every 2 or 3 threads we get someone asking why not to use i226-V NICs and NO ONE ever knows the answer
I asked once and got like 5 different people answering me.
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>>109560301
afaik these type of devices aren't usually real sata controllers, but rather a port multiplier that is unreliable for NAS usage:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_multiplier
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>>109557439
stop reading reddit/homelab
only those retards recommend minipc's for 24/7 operation
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>>109560344
am I being memed too with this?: >>109559044
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>>109560342
Ofcourse
Anyone who shilled these also never posted any sort of benchmarks
Like, I should be able to saturate at least 4 sata drives with that right? or not? Nobody knows because it's all chink shite
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>>109560351
nothing wrong with that if your use case is midget sized appliances and raspberry pies. at least you can get a desk fan and cool that heap somewhat.
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>>109560344
They can be fine if they passive cooled and mostly idle.
But yeah it's almost always a terrible idea.
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>>109560373
use case is basically as an external hdd w/ server (I guess that's like a NAS?). just a place to park tons of data and pull it or stream to my desktop as needed.
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I am running 3 Dell 7050s with DAS set ups. That's pretty much all I need. Unless you're an IT student or work at home in IT, I don't understand why some dudes have fucking enterprise level server set ups at home. Not judging, it's a great hobby, but still....
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>>109557439
>he didn't buy miniPC with passive cooling
lmao even
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>>109560514
It's just hoarding, & I wouldn't be so quick to judge. These people make up the bulk of high speed downloads you get over torrents & soulseek etc. Without them things it'd be much harder to find shit & download it fast.
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>>109560170
>at least 4 20TB HDDs for a total of 80TB max capacity
No disks spent on redundancy ?

>10" mini racks
Are you just going to sit the disks directly on the shelves ?
Or is there something better in the 10" mini rack format ?

Don't forget to have some fans / airflow going over your disks.

>jonsbo
Jonsbo N3 has 8 bays (don't have to use all of them obviously)
takes mini-itx motherboards
and can take a 2-slot full-height pcie card.

Another possible case is the roomier Sagittarius NAS case.
- 8 bays.
- Takes micro-atx motherboards (which means you could have up to 4 pcie slots).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr5MjhgPz_c
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>>109560301
>ASM1064
If you type into google ai: asm1064 vs asm1166 vs jmicron ?
It says:

ASM1064 natively supplies 4 sata ports,
JMB585 natively supplies 5 sata ports,
ASM1166 natively supplies 6 sata ports
and are fine if used without a port multiplier.

JMB3xx are old and awful.
JMB575 is a port multiplier and commonly paired with the JMB585 to go beyond 5 ports. Problems: timeouts, problems with smart, data corruption.
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>>109560890
>miniPC with passive cooling
my minipc has a 12700 cpu. how do i passive cool that
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My goofy ass adapter arrived.
I can't think of any valid reason why they moved the screw hole to the bottom of the bracket on low profile cards but they did. The screws top and bottom are sandwiching it fairly well though.
All devices working (2070, P600, Connectsx3, boot SSD).
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>>109562725
back together
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>>109560301
It's fine then. If it avoids those JMB splitter chips to get even more ports it'll work OK. Drivers can sometimes be a nuisance but solvable.
>>109560357
I didn't record it but I used an ASM1166 to random wipe 6x8TB drives in parallel. The first 5x wrote at 200MB/s, and the 6th wrote at 160MB/s (I guess until the others finished and then wrote at 200MB/s too, or it's just a bit slower of a drive.)
It was maxing out the drive's practical write speeds, excepting that one drive that was capped by the PCIe capacity, which is 1x if I recall correctly.
That lasted overnight, I think 11 hours total.
As I mentioned in the other reply here I did have some tricky but solvable driver issues.
So, in answer to your question, you can saturate 5 drives, and nearly a 6th. The one I had was indeed chink shite, though maybe de-emphasizing shite.
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>>109561031
>No disks spent on redundancy ?
Yeah I probably should.. But I was thinking they could be 'offline' and not synced as frequently.. Maybe like only doing redundancy for what I haven't yet backed up separately.

In other words, IDK that the backup disk need to live in the same rack necessarily. But yeah maybe, what, 8 disk would be better than for a 1:1 back up?


>Are you just going to sit the disks directly on the shelves ? Or is there something better in the 10" mini rack format ?
There's things like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/127871657441?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28&google_free_listing_action=view_item&srsltid=AfmBOooSwvyemICEaiHLphaRF1zzTKnp8IEf4f9Kydt_6dn6QSoXyBVe1_o

And a lot of 3d printable stuff.

>Jonsbo
There were some pain points with it, I forget what they were though. I like how the mini racks are so flexible.
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>drive died in my NAS
>thankfully have a cold spare but i dont like the idea of not having a cold spare
>drives are like $500 now
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>>109558260
get a fucking air filter you mongoloid
if there is dust you cant do shit about then like hot glue a dryer sheet over the air intake so it acts like a filter
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Hello. I'm tired of hitting RomM with hammers trying to get it to fucking work, and Retrom just won't fucking see anything on disk no matter what I do. I don't know why but I'm tired. Is there anything else out there that's not those two things that'll do a Steam-like thing with ROMs and maybe my GOG games. Thank you.
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Need some advice.
1. Is this a good price? It's $90CAD($65USD) per unit. Seller says it has 8GB of RAM and 128GB SSD for all of them. I don't plan on upgrading anything.
2. Right now I only plan on using two; one is a torrent box with an external HDD as storage attached to it and the other is my game servers, mainly Minecraft, Vintage Story and Project Zomboid. I don't know if it can run a private server of other games though, like WoW, Ragnarok, Shin Megami Tensei etc. What should I use the other three for?
3. Should I just buy a weaker one, instead of Ryzen 5 it's a Ryzen 3? It's roughly the same price but I can buy it individually so I only need to buy the ones I need.
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>>109564308
Depends on the description and other pictures with eBay, but based on the assumption they are in good condition and working I would say yeah, it's a fair enough price per unit if you aren't finding them cheaper. What's the Passmark score for the CPU?
If you have the time, why not keep they ones you want and sell the others? See how much they sell for individually, because if it's more than they are selling for here, the ones you keep will actually have an even cheaper effective cost. If you'r ereally busy though that's probably not worth the time for the discount.
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>>109563884
How often do you buy HDDs though? Don't ever buy used since a 5 year warranty is really important, especially when new and used HDDs are roughly the same, at least in my country. I don't mind spending $500 every 5 years for a new HDD. And if a drive fails just RMA it and get a replacement. Although luckily I never had to RMA anything so I don't know how tough that process is.
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>>109564358
Other sellers sell them for ~$150. But I usually don't sell things online so I would just keep them. I just need to know what I should use them for.
Seller says they work, has 1 stick of 8GB RAM and comes with the 65w power adapter.
The Ryzen 3 is 22% weaker than the Ryzen 5.
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>>109564367
they wont RMA it, they just refund you the amount you paid at the time
i built my server with all used drives with the plan being to replace them with new drives as they failed
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>>109564440
>they wont RMA it, they just refund you the amount you paid at the time
Still better than used drives where they say fuck off because 30 days passed or some shit.
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>>109564429
>buy 5
>sell 3
>2 free computers
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>>109564523
I guess. But I have no experience with selling things online.
Guess I'll make a facebook account or something and sell it there. I hope I don't get raped or something.
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Put an sbc on a pole and I'm now officially edge computing
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>>109564565
>edge computing
anon, isn't that cloud computing?
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>>109564429
>should I buy 5 computers?
what are you gonna use them for?
>idk, what should I do with them?
do you idiots ever listen to yourselves?
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>>109541042
Is there anything you guys would change? It's mostly going to be a NAS for holding Blu-ray rips and simple stuff like Home Assistant, with the occasional Minecraft server.
Intel Core i5-14500
Supermicro X13SAE-F
2x 48GB Kingston Server Premier DDR5 ECC UDIMM
Noctua NH-U12S redux
2x WD Red SN700 2TB NVMe
Broadcom LSI SAS 9300-8i
2x SFF-8643 to 4x SATA forward breakout cables
8x Seagate Exos X24 24TB
Intel X550-T2 10GbE
Fractal Design Define 7 Black Solid
Fractal HDD Tray Kit Type-B 2-pack
Seasonic VERTEX GX-850
4x Noctua NF-A14x25 G2 PWM
CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD 1500VA UPS
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>>109565279
>buy 5 computers for $90 each, only using 2 and maybe use the other three later
or
>buy a much weaker computer for $99 individually and buy them when you need them

It's literally the same argument when buying hard drives and comparing price per TB. Do you buy a 16TB hard drive for $500 or buy a 4TB hard drive for $200? If you don't NEED the 16TB immediately then the 4TB sounds better, but it's a worse deal compared to 16TB for $500.
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>>109565561
If you want to waste money, go ahead.
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>>109564308
it's way too old. Aim at m75q g2 with 4650ge at least.
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I have all I need.
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>>109565901
Except hair by the looks of things.
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>>109565773
>more than x2 the price
Ehhh...I don't know. I don't really need anything more powerful if I'm just using it as a seedbox for my torrents. Might be nice if I intend to make game servers but...they're like $300CAD.

>>109565901
I wish I had a 3D printer. But I live in an apartment and I got nowhere to put it. I'm not putting toxic fumes in my bedroom.
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>>109566023
well, for $100 USD you get access to usable APU GPU and 6 cores, plus 3200MT/s DDR4 RAM, nvme slot and m2 pcie slot that you can use for 2nd NIC.
I'm on m75q g5 with 8700GE and I use it daily to stream steam games to my TVs. Vega 8 inside 4650ge should be also more than enough to do automatic transcoding of your torrent movies overnight.
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>>109566061
I live in shithole Canada. This is the cheapest one that at least includes an SSD for the OS. There are $300 units with no RAM or no HDD. Shipping is the main problem for me since it costs like $100+ to ship from US sellers to Canada.
I just don't think it's worth it.
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>>109566097
lmao. These are like $150 here in poland, tax included.
Well, just for seedboxing you don't need platform like that.wyse 3040 + usb 3.0 drive would also do.
Alternatively - visit poland for a weekend, get yourself cheapo hardware and bring it with you. Here bunch of corps are selling their old hardware for pennies.
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>>109566179
>visit poland for a weekend
I actually plan on going to Japan on October and staying there for the holidays. My depression has been really bad and I almost tried killing myself. I need a mental health break. Maybe I'll find some neat tech stuff there. Right now I'm in no rush buying the mini PCs. I just get tired of using my laptop as a seedbox and game server and want to separate them.
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>>109566215
>japan
>short on funds
Well, be careful then.
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>>109566233
I'm only paying for the ticket, which I already bought. And I'm staying with my aunt and cousins so I have free lodgings and food for my stay.
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has anyone gotten their hands on a hp elite y655 thin client with the r2314? can it do media playback smoothly? i have a t540 with a ist gen ryzen 3 embedded and it is pretty fucking bad, barely pays youtube.
i fucking hate fan noise btw
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>>109556278
40mm, though depending on how long you've been hitting it with the 0 cooling special I don't know if I would trust it after this. Was the weather a factor, or was it somewhere air conditioned?
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>>109565561
Overkill. As for actually useful info, you probably don't need any fans. Maybe 1 or 2. The fractal ones are good enough and I think they include 3. Your motherboard has 8 sata ports already. Unless you're going sas I don't see the point in an hba. I know I've seen people say to not use the onboard sata controller, but I've had no issues on my supermicro h12ssl.
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>>109565561
Are you going to use a hypervisor? Cuck cores still don't play great with them.
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>>109565561
This retard fell for the intel x550 meme lmfaooooo
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>>109566713
How about an x540?
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>>109566653
> not having home server 4k realtime upscaling rizz for your 7.2.4 surround sound setup
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>>109563906
comfy
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>>109566646
it's in my basement, relatively cooled, the case just has very little airflow over the card. it's been working fine since I took the side panel off and pointed a fan at it.
might even try taking the heatsink off and re-pasting it, if I can remember where I left my package of kryonaut
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I feel like badblocks is a meme. Maybe if I had a proper way of doing it instead of doing it inside a VM through a USB enclosure I would use it a lot more. But I don't really want to buy a new PC just for testing single HDDs.
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reminder to never listen to jeet shills shilling shitass cloud services on 4chan
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>>109568757
How do you sue something that doesn't exist?
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>>109569324
Reading the story, it seems that Iron Mountain is a colo, and PBS had a contract with a company that was housing its servers at Iron Mountain, and then that company went bust and PBS is suing the company that currently holds the servers that house their data.

>The lawsuit filed in Denver District Court alleges that the station’s cloud-storage vendor, Open Source Storage, abruptly cut off access to Nine PBS’ data earlier this year without warning. It states OSS, which had a separate relationship with Iron Mountain to provide data storage, went “defunct,” leaving Nine PBS’ archives in a data center operated by Iron Mountain.
>Iron Mountain has refused to return the materials to the station because its client, OSS, technically owned “the physical services housing the data” within Iron Mountain, according to the complaint.
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what's a Zima Blade
sounds like a gay serbian pornstar
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>>109570102
Why do you know what gay Serbian porn stars are named?
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>>109559044
>pic
everything this guy does is advanced lego for adults (but I do quite like watching it so whatever)
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>>109570638
Could have been worse.
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>>109555435
I always do the same mistake. Whenever I have to do something I try to script it instead of writing what I need and calling it a day
>>109554363
I think 100mbps but realistically 60-90mbps. Even if it's capped speed, I plan on leaving it at my parents place so I can get into their network whenever I want to fix shit from far away
>>109555771
So far I am not experiencing slowdowns for daily tasks but yeah it's not ideal. I just needed something tiny I could entrust to my parents and simple enough (take the thing, plug the power to the wall and the ethernet cable ro the router and you are done)
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>>109570102
the only one I heard is of drag queen calling himself "Železara Smederevo" fuck you rsrop why would I ever care to know this
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>>109541195
I think the heretical answer is that the hobby is slightly dead. There are only two generally applicable use cases (1) datahorder storage (2) smart home control. Other uses are generally not worth the squeeze. I'm sure someone will pop up with an um-actually paragraph on how their set-up is used everyday, but a top 1% of users isn't enough to sustain a dynamic general. My set-up has been fire and forget for years and so I don't have a reason to look at the general. This isn't a frontier space where we're talking about exciting, new things every week.
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>>109568314
try not to power more than 4 drives from one peripheral psu line. i had issues where drives weren't recognized by an hba, getting more power solved it.
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>>109563441
blumpf
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What do people use for manga nowadays? I've been using Suwayomi as the downloader, and pointing Komga at the folder and using it as the reader. Metadata can get a little fucky sometimes though with Komga having to figure what's what itself, any better solution?
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i've filled all my ssd storage up with jav porn.
i need more disks but they are too expensive.
why did trump do this? i voted for cheap gas.
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>>109573844
Pick up a used 1tb drive?
Spinning rust if cheap.

How much space does a minute of video even take ?
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>>109573844
>i voted for cheap gas.
Doesn't sound like you did.
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>>109571089
golden age of /hsg/ probably would have been late '00s, like '06-'10, which is when 1gbit ethernet, large capacity sata drives, linux, and more broadly OSS were all taking off.

that was around the time period that a lot of formerly enterprise technologies were becoming available, completely for free, via linux and open source. so there was a novelty element, but also an arbitrage element if you were savvy with linux and bash and compilers and all that jazz.

ofcourse all of that has become commoditized, including the jazz. i would say opportunities have become centralized again. the fun toys have returned to the hands of the 'big boys' just as it was in the 90s: if you want access to the interesting stuff, you need to get inside the corps.

as an aside, the corollary of this is that big tech jobs aren't going anywhere, and infact i would argue it is *more* impactful to get one nowadays, than before, because it gives you access to resources that are available exclusively to large-cap orgs.

i.e. in a feudal world, its better to be inside the castle than out.
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My nvme is dying, it put the / of my system in to mode today, I had to shut it down. There is only one slot for M.2 ssd so my system is down. It's under warranty but still systems will be down until the new stick arrives.
The failure could've been a bad seating but I've reseated it twice, and there is a permanent media error written on it so maybe it was the cheap mobo but I'm not sure.
At this point I'm genuinely considering buying server grade stuff, starting with mobo+cpu, preferably something from the amd epyc lineup, a bigger case and a larger psu.
But I'm quite a noob in the enterprise grade stuff, tried looking up on the net and asking AI but there are just too many options. Also would be nice if my old DDR4 (non-ECC) could be used somehow in the new setup in these trying times.
Some help in getting started with a long term solution would be very much appreciated /\

(didn't read the wiki since someone said they were outdated, should I?)
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>>109575987
>I'm genuinely considering buying server grade stuff
You haven't figured where the problem is, and what caused it.
It's too soon to consider replacing all your hardware.
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>>109576022
Yeah sorry I'm frustrated. The ssd is gone for sure and the issue would've been preventable if there were two slots so a mirrored root drive would've been possible.
I will post the smart log soon, maybe I'm wrong to dismiss the ssd just yet.
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>>109573844
>jav porn
use case?
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>>109576077
here we go: https://pastebin.com/CwMnpm84
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I have a fuckton of images and short videos of girls. Is there anything for Linux to check for duplicates?
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>>109579760
https://github.com/pkolaczk/fclones

as good as it gets
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>>109541042
I am so happy. My landlord approved my project of getting ethernet ran through the house. I'll finally be able to do a home server properly.
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>>109580394
optical i hope?
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>>109580453
He just gave me the approval to do anything as long as it looks professional. So yeah, optical wherever I want. Been holding off on a homelab for YEARS because I was scared of asking the landlord and being told no and just doing it anyway. I'm so fucking excited.
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>Company is going all cloud
>They finally migrated their local AD and a bunch of services + storage to Azure
>next month or so they will finally retire their servers
>I'm part of the project and will likely get them for free
>Wife encouraged me to get a rack too because she enjoys our growing media library thanks to Jellyfin

Right now my server stack is a bunch of old laptops running Proxmox clustered. Bless the Omnissiah bros.
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do you use vlans to segment your network? What do you use to route between them?
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>>109581084
VLANs are great. One for guests, one for IoTs, one for the main network.
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>>109580862
Nice. I'm always jealous of people getting free shit from work.
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>>109581084
I have a guest network just in case. That's about it.
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>>109581658
If you have IoTs you should put them on their own vlan. Those sneaky fucks are huge security risks.
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>>109564308
I managed to haggle the price down to $420. Could have probably gotten it down to $400 but I just settled with $420.
Now I don't know what to do with all of them. They each come with 1 stick of 8GB RAM so I'll probably pull one out and make one machine into 16GB. I'll make it into a game server. The other one would be my seedbox. Not sure what to do with the others, but I'm sure I'll find something fun with them eventually. They also come with a 2.5" SSD instead of an NVMe so I gotta replace those. NVMes are expensive.
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>>109581450
There are some upsides to working blue collar IT. We throw out so much shit as e-waste, I've been thinking of starting my own e-wate company given how much companies pay you to take their shit off of them.
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>>109571089
>There are only two generally applicable use cases (1) datahorder storage (2) smart home control
That is an extremely narrow way to view it, and data hoarding doesn't even require a home-server.
I think the most frequent use cases for home-servers is to have some personal cloud like Nextcloud and other adjacent streaming services for movies and music, but even that is just scratching the surface. And yes, smart home.
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>>109544982
meds. now.
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>>109544982
>Old/g/
>Linux
>Android
>Networking
>All things technology
And now
>Nu/g/
>Apple shilling
>Windows posting
>Sucking off nVidia
Yes, it really is that bad
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>>109580561
fwiw there are <1mm transparant optical wires you can run along walls, so a pair of them would be nearly invisible. i was stupid enough to run heavy cat7 cabling in my previous house. glad i switched. but yeah, holes are better, happy for you anon.

>>109544982
any places you can recommend?
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>be me, got into homelab so i dont pay for shit like icloud, netflix, etc.
>Thinking of upgrading from my old synology and a lenovo tiny
>check local marketplace
>R740xd with double xeon 6138, 128 gigs of ddr4 ecc and a 4x10Gb daughter card for 1000€ two streets away
S-should I?
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anyone though about buying a /24 and renting out the addresses for profit?
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>>109584966
No.
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>>109584128
Do you enjoy hearing WREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and also heating your house with electricity?
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>>109578432
>>109575987
bumpu
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>>109585110
What other upgrade path would you recommend?
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What's some good setup for running a qwen3coder on one machine and having it write and execute projects on my server?
Is the pewdiepie odyseyus frontend thing good or worth it?
Is vs code & cline worth it or good? I have this running now.
Is there a claude code local application thing i can put on my server?

I have learnt so much shit in the past month or two. Self host server is so fun.
I turned my gaming PC (3090) into an ubuntu dual boot that runs LLMs
Bought a T5810 and filled every slot possible with hard drives and put proxmox on it which I just tell claude code to install and fix all the time
I vibe code retarded websites for fun
I run every service I could find that's even remotely useful
>jellyfin, navidrome, docker, calibre, vaultwarden,

Just run everything off my comfy macbook pro m1
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Is there a guide towards lowering idle power? My server idles at 20W. i7 8700, 64GB, iGPU, 1 nvme.
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>>109585630
not him. a T5820 might be enough for you. if you wanted to add more drives you can put it in another case
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>>109584966
if you don't know what you are doing, you'll just get some jeet do something nasty on them and then your net gets blacklisted everywhere
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>>109586545
the lowest hanging fruit are looking around in powertop and also maybe enabling more c-states in the bios
a more efficient psu can also shave a few watts but it's unlikely to amortize anytime soon depending on where you live
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>>109584128
I probably would, but I live in an apartment so I would either transfer everything in to an actual case or change fans/settings
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>>109564186
Romm just works my man. What issues are you having with it ? Maybe I can help.
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>>109586870
Thank you
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>>109587405
The controller setup is a confusing mess, because EmuJS expects literally everything that it emulates to have a Nintendo-style ABXY controller layout: as evidenced here while I'm playing Sonic the Hedgehog.
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>>109587405
>>109589470
...and of course this illustrates the issue. The machine that EmuJS is emulating expects an ABC layout, whereas EmuJS can only 'understand' ABXY. So it's not clear, at all, how to produce a C button input on the machine that is being emulated.
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i have a synology box with a few docker containers. it works fine but im thinking about getting more into homelabbing as a hobby. i don't "need" anything currently. that said im wondering what the next step could be. i like having an all in one box because it's easier, and im the only client. so maybe networking equipment next?
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>>109586306
>What's some good setup for running a qwen3coder on one machine and having it write and execute projects on my server?
llama.cpp with the --tools-runtime flag set to ssh:your-server's-IP
>Is the pewdiepie odyseyus frontend thing good or worth it?
Probably not. The built in llama-server one is pretty good already and improving quickly. If you want something more agents focused, Pi is a well-liked option.
>qwen3coder
Since you have a 3090 you can fit an IQ4 quant of 3.8 27B or 3.6 35B A3B. These models have much better scores in intelligence and SWE than qwen3coder, which is getting a little dated by LLM standards.
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>>109586545
Do you have any HDDs that are contributing to that draw or is it just the one SSD?
If you do have HDDs, you're already at a low power draw. If not, you can go lower, maybe halving it, but it's often pretty hardware dependent, particularly motherboard dependent, and you need to have built the system from the ground up with low idle consumption in mind. Can probably shave off a few watts though.
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>>109589486
The mapping is ABY to CBA. It's a bit confusing but nothing insurmountable. It stands within reason to expect this kind of controller because what most users (and platforms) will use and what Xinput expects is an Xbox style controller.
If you bitch about this you may be able to get the devs to do something about it. It would be trivial to have Romm display relevant inputs per platform. Romm devs are -very- active and will probably listen to you (and if they do very likely implement the feature quickly) if asked nicely. They really want their software to be normie friendly, at least on the user side of things so this they will probably implement.
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>>109590263
>They really want their software to be normie friendly, at least on the user side of things
Then, they're going about it in a truly terrible way lol. It's baffling that there's no way (that I've found, correct me if I'm wrong) of setting up how your input device interacts with the emulated platform, without emulating a game, waggling your computer's mouse or hitting Esc or whatever to bring up the save state / load state etc options, *then* performing the hunt-for-a-wrench-or-gear-icon dance, all while the game's attract mode plays in the background. In literally any other emulator out there, it's Options -> Input or whatever, which is why I was confused and frustrated that this isn't exposed at all in RomM.

All this is to make the following sound less like a shitpost: on the face of it, the input options screen as presented in >>109589470 is to configure controller -> EmuJS controls, rather than controller -> emulated system controls: I can't believe this hasn't been ... well ... noticed!
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>>109590569
This element of Romm has not been touched at all since initial release. It sorely needs attention. I also doubt that the developer actually envisions EmuJS as anyone's primary interface for actually playing the games. They expect you to use it more as a sort of trial feature or backup option. They want you to use integrations or apps really which is what they have been focusing on before. They're coming back to the web player recently and started implementing an emulator streaming feature so you can use full fat emulators and heavier platforms through the browser by leveraging server horsepower instead of running everything in the browser.
If you want this to be fixed make sure to notify the devs. They are easy to get a hold of. Especially on discord. They fixed the issue I had on the muOS app in less than 30 minutes and provided my a test build to verify.
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>take down my soft router because I want to fuck with it
>dig out old wrt1200 with DDWRT in the meantime
>network instantly becomes 10x less reliable
Is this the reality is using an ARM box still?
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what models are currently best for self-hosted stuff? i'm bringing up a server pretty soon that's got 384gb ddr3 and 2 tesla m40s for 48gb vram. i'm guessing i should be able to run a fairly large model with this, even if not very quickly. i don't really care if it's too fast, though, since i can just let it run tasks overnight.
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>tfw assessing the cost to replace my ~7 year old hardware and ~4 year old HDD's

it's not failing but if it does I will have to downsize.
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>>109541759
Claude has worked wonders troubleshooting TrueNAS for me. Resilvering an 18TB drive is going to take days, dude. Ignore the estimated time and let it run. Are you running in a VM or bare metal? How you pass the drives into a VM matters a lot.
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>>109591632
Nah that's normal if you use an ancient 11 year old router
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>>109592263
I've never used AI and don't intend to start
bare metal
normally resilver takes about a day and a half but it was up to over 6 months
turns out my HBA was overheating, I popped the side panel off, pointed a fan at it, and removed the 2 new drives and was able to complete a resilver in ~32 hours with the original 5 drives
I did a scrub immediately afterwards and it completed with no errors
I bought a 40mm fan and am planning to mount it on the HBA heatsink and try again, one drive at a time this time, have to seed some torrents for a couple days to avoid hit'n'run warnings first though
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>>109591640
Someone recomended to me earlier today that qwen 3.6 and 3.8 are better than qwen 3 coder.
I'm testing 3.8 now.
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>>109591632
>*wrt
>reliable
last time i used this i had to hard reset weekly after being unresponsive/dead. their wiki said "yes you might have issues on this model lmao good luck"
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how do i convince my family to spend money on a home server setup instead of netflix and disney+
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>>109595437
if you live with them get a job
and if you don't stop giving a fuck about what others do
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Feels good when your monitoring accidentally catches your packets taking a road trip across Europe. You contact support and then they actually fix it.



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