>use my entire limit on one prompt
uesless meme technology

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>tell sonnet to not use my hardcoded user path in the tests because it will break CI in AGENTS.md
>does it anyway

>109673734
trying to not laugh

>>109673727
was it a big prompt
inb4 “for you”

clod opus is a fucking meme, harder to tard-wrangle than even luna

>>109673734
>he didn't have his clanker make a unit test to test that a rule was followed

>>109673744
gpt 5.6 sol on ultra:

"Build a purpose-built C++20 engine and game for a solo Project Zomboid-style 3D isometric survival game, targeting a Linux laptop.

Use:

* CMake + Ninja + Clang
* SDL3 for windowing/input
* bgfx with Vulkan as the preferred renderer
* EnTT for ECS
* Jolt for physics where appropriate
* miniaudio for audio
* Dear ImGui for developer/editor/debug tools
* Blender glTF 2.0 for the asset pipeline

The world should be chunked and stream dynamically, with modular 3D buildings, skeletal characters, large numbers of zombies/items, inventory, combat, survival systems, persistence, and efficient save/load.

Use a chunk/grid-based navigation system with hierarchical A* suitable for a Zomboid-like changing world rather than relying entirely on a static navmesh.

Do not build general-purpose engine features we do not need. Do not reinvent rendering APIs, physics, audio, image loading, or other solved infrastructure.

Prioritize:

1. Correctness and maintainability
2. Good Linux performance
3. Fast iteration
4. Data-oriented systems for large entity counts
5. Multithreading only where profiling justifies it
6. Automated tests and benchmarks
7. AddressSanitizer/UBSan in debug builds
8. Clear documentation of architecture and important decisions

Build the project incrementally. Keep it compiling and runnable after every meaningful change. Run tests and the game after changes, fix failures yourself, and profile before optimizing.

First create the repository structure, dependency/build system, architecture document, and a minimal executable that opens a window and renders a simple Blender-exported glTF scene. Then proceed feature-by-feature toward the game."

>>109673769
>ultra
literally a meme

>>109673769
I hope you're joking. You have to do this in small steps. High effort is worth only for planning.

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>Explain it like I just graduated high school
My new favorite prompt. It dumbs it down enough so that my retarded ass can understand it but it doesn't make it too obnoxious like I don't know what an integer is

so what makes your game fun, anon?
>i don't know, but it has to us EnTT!!
lol this is why none of you are gonna make it

>>109673769
How much do you pay Sam Altman per month? $20?
because that is a big prompt and you shouldn’t expect to finish it all in one go
also I would have said to use subagents, but I don’t know if Codex will just do that unprompted (I generally want Claude to use subagents more often than it will do so unprompted)

>>109673803
chatgpt recommended doing the first big prompt on ultra, then do high/xhigh for rest, and medium for assets, ui and 3d models and again ultra for stubborn bugs

>>109673817
you should've used max to have sol create a giant fool-proof plan that even a dumb luna could follow step by step.

>>109673810
Clankers don’t know what fun is and so it’s not worth trying to get them to optimize for it
“make it fun” is something you do after you have the system kind of working
unless you’re the Zelda guys before BotW came out and want to test out your “use all kinds of random things to affect the world” idea and find out if it’s cool
so then you shoehorn will-be-BotW mechanics into a zelda 1 game and try them out

>>109673816
1 month free
im not paying for anything ever

>>109673769
>>109673845
>hear complaint about ai
>look inside
every single time

>>109673839
there is no game idea in your head that you actually need a homegrown c++ engine to implement

>Clankers don’t know what fun is
stop projecting, you fucking autist

>>109673870
the large prompt is actually created by gpt 5.6 sol high after discussing for a bit with it

>>109673845
The first thing you have to learn is that AI is better and faster and you, but dumber than your favorite politician at the same time.

>>109673880
than you*

>>109673807
Good one anon.
Another I liked is an anon mentioned asking it to "steelman" the other sides, when you want it to give you arguments its biased against.

>>109673873
why shouldnt i make my own c++ engine optimized for the game

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>>109673888

>>109673888
because it’ll be fewer tokens burned mostly recreating the wheel
on the other hand, swapping out the stock thing for your custom thing is easier than ever:
https://danluu.com/perf-opt/

>>109673887
>Another I liked is an anon mentioned asking it to "steelman" the other sides, when you want it to give you arguments its biased against.
good one as well, anon

>>109673898
this but unironically

>>109673903
what if recreating the wheel is part of the journey i wish to make anon

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I was trying hard to vibecode a git client that actually behaves in a way that makes it easy for me to understand and use, but the more I was thinking about it and discussing with Sol, the more I realize that git is just a fundamentally hard problem to solve and you're not going to make an easy UI to solve merge conflicts if you have a branch with 100 diverging commits so I decided to stop caring

>>109673946
>solve merge conflicts if you have a branch with 100 diverging commits
just don't?

>>109673919
If you like it so much then just make wheels instead of cars

>>109673954
well good luck trying to tell my coworkers to not make isolated branches that run for 3 months with 150 commits

>>109673956
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPPvfzFVLIc

>>109673968
you have clankers who needs coworkers

>>109673946
“The Garden of Forking Paths” is a Borges short story
it shouldn’t be an apt description of your Git workflow especially as a one-man developer

>>109673946
>you're not going to make an easy UI to solve merge conflicts if you have a branch with 100 diverging commits
That's a problem of the past anyway, soon we'll just edit code at the same time like google docs

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makes me kek every time

>>109673919
>part of the journey i wish to make
then do it, dont ask a chat bot to regurgitate one from its training data

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wtf is Mistral even doing?!

>>109674042
stagnating

>>109674042
making purchasing directors of dinosaur EU industrial companies tasked with "introducing AI into the company" very happy

>>109674027
this is the vibe coding general old man, the retirement home is that way

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they're gonna extend the +50% usage again right?
they have to
can't let the other companies win
it would be crazy not to extend
definitely

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>prompt ChatGPT specifically set to Sol-High
>spits out retard answer within 0.00001 microseconds
>see pic rel, it didn't actually use Sol
SAAAM

>>109674064
funny thing is the usage isn't even that great with the 50% boost, its just barely acceptable

>>109674089
that's a (You) problem
I never get near to maxing out the 5 hour window and more or less hit exactly 100% on the weekly just before my reset

where's grok 4.7

>>109674064
they could announce Fable 5.1 that does things in half the tokens because it’s that much smarter
but the magic is set to stop at 11:59 PM on Monday

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>>109674070
actually it turns out I can't read. I thought it said "Try again using GPT-5.6 Sol"
The answers are still retarded and absolutely not the same quality of even Sol-Low in Codex
Something is afoot here

Do people actually try to fully vibecode games?
It seems like it'd shit itself with graphics, sound, level design, inputs, testing etc

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sad tibo, very sad

>>109674106
the mcp trick went mainstream and they decided to nerf it

>>109674102
I don't give a shit about cucked fable
I just want opus 4.8 at the usage where it is now

>>109674109
Your bankable reset?

>>109674111
mcp trick?

>>109674108
Is it hard to imagine someone applying AI to each of those areas in a different way on a case by case basis? Are you unfamiliar with tools like 3d ai studio?

>>109674108
if you're not a retard and don't try to one-shot it, it can probably make most of those work pretty well just through planning and proper prompting

>>109674123
Vibe code as in 'has no idea what the fuck they're doing' like you see retards on youtuibe and X do
Obviously using a variety of tools and understanding all the parts is different

OK, My project is working. the Os has a calculator and notes. woo. time to touch grass and get fresh air than start on getting more of it working. finally this ai stuff working for me.

>>109674106
Reasoning effort is just a nudge, a system prompt like "answer fast if you know the answer" can be stronger

>>109674118
I expect another reset for the dev day thing

>>109674111
Yeah because morons QUOTE TWEETED fucking tibo about it while asking for people to not say anything about it to OAI.

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>>109674181
>I expect another reset

>>109674111
>>109674122
>>109674188
this is why we can't have nice things
but why didn't they just reinstate limits instead of nerfing the model?
the webchat is completely unusable right now, I have to switch to work mode for even basic requests because God only knows what model they're currently serving in Chat mode, but it's certainly not Sol

>>109674211
It might be just a bug
occasionally webchat bugs out

>>109674211
dont worry, their army of slop devs are furiously vibing up a solution

>>109674108
I don't think the vision models are good enough yet to nitpick details and correct things in a design loop. Not to mention judging movement and animations.

>>109674204
do you know something anon?

>>109673745
The only time I had to truly tard wrangle luna was when I unknowingly set it on medium and had it try shortening all the comments Claude made
Thank God for git

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some progress, app coming along, tried drawing something (i can't draw)
strokes are sort of wobbly/wonky because stabilization and smoothing aren't wired to the new UI yet

>>109674321
nice work. next you should make a text editor for writing code.

>>109674328
don't have time, I'm already working on a faggot detector (it lit up when it read your post so it seems it's working)

>>109674334
lol but seriously, do you not see the irony of having an ai slop code up a tool that is already being replaced by the very same ai?

>>109674345
From my understanding as a bystander, his tool is the first of its kind. AI can use his tool. X is blowing up right now with all sorts of agent native generative art tools.

>>109674356
>AI can use his tool
lmao retard
>his tool is the first of its kind
dont talk about urself in 3rd person pls

>>109673878
Refer to >>109673870 , restart-kun

>>109674356
yeah the trick is storing strokes as data and then doing the brushwork in real time like a game engine rendering a character or whatever, you're not painting pixels you're painting data and the pixels get painted procedurally
I'm not entirely sure if AIs can use it though. Since it's just floats they should be but drawings will probably look like the typical pelican riding a bicycle

good morning saars

>>109674383
Good morning, how is the weather in Tel-Aviv?

there should be a new thread call "vibecoding software". really interest what others has build.

sir? the vibecoding software sir. really interest what you has build

>>109674383
early morning here. lol.
still no sunrise here yet. lol

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>>109674397
i vibe this. saar.

>>109674383
good marning saaar!

any news for Codex reset from Tibo-sir?

>>109674420
did you use Haiku for this?
looks like something I made in 2015 using VB.NET

>>109674382
You're focusing too much on a single tool, if I want to do anything other than drawing strokes they have to be converted to pixels. Unless you make some kind of svg editor

>>109674382
Of course AI can use it. You can have an AI update the thing so AI can use it.
You can give it all the data you’ve ever made. You can have AI make a rasterizer. You can have AI compare the output to a picture and try to use your tool to approximate it. You can simply tell the AI how you’d like to see it use your tool differently.
I love AI.

>>109674445
i dont know what haiku is.
it using c# (vs 2015).

>>109674211
>God only knows what model they're currently serving in Chat mode, but it's certainly not Sol
They serve Luna, and it's as dumb as a brick.

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>sn*lcat
absolute state.

>>109674445
>looks like something I made in 2015 using VB.NET
>>109674583
>it using c# (vs 2015).
fucking

>>109674392
there's a site dedicated to that, its called github

>>109674488
how about a novel way to make a game engine?

I chucked $40 getting my clanker to finish up writing its mermaid flowchart - to - quake map script.

It really has me thinking. Hallways are the bane of Quake 1. But, Quake 1 is so fast lol. I really dig it. Then otoh the old Unrealed (idk about the many many many idk versions whatever) had a "digging" or subtraction thing, so your hallways would always intersect each other and "rooms" seamlessly. quake uses brushes, idk.

so what other ways are there to do engines?

Also.

I think we should be working on universal converters. like why can't we take the toys out of the box and put them with the other toys? Like if you have a he-man, you can put him in your lego castle. Why not do that with games?

so I think we need an intermediate "thing" like format idk.

>>109674420
don't let those snobs get you down. Looks should be deceiving. Anon's first rule of vibe.

>>109674628
lol. it for windows 7. cant help above 2015.

>>109674277
that's tibo

>>109674421
i hope tibo comes through again.

when is dev day?

i'm almost at my weekly limit again, hoping i get three insta-resets at limit in a row :D

>>109674644
thanks. but not down. and none taken.
>>109674630
but i dont know which one is vibe. so many of them.

>>109674685
>but i dont know which one is vibe. so many of them.
all are.
even linus uses it to make kernel patches and git commit messages

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>>109674673
me and you anon

stupid fucking darion nigger. fix your fable or release fable 5.1 already, smelly kike

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>>109674673
Here is your insta reset

I’m watching three zelda streamers play different zelda games (OoT, MM, WW) and they’re finding items for each other
I don’t know if this was functionality that was vibe-coded in but I thought this was wacky new shit that “I want to make a game but I don’t know what to make” people in here should hear

>>109674751
nta
I'm using this time to reflect on my priorities.

>>109674772
randomizers took off before vibecoding, sounds like a variant of that

>>109674772
How does that work?

>>109674779
if you’re familiar with randomizers then this is just sending messages between three different running programs saying “you got the biggoron sword from $OTHERGUY”
kind of like how netplay has been hacked into Smash for the Gamecube or whatever

>>109674772
The basic idea makes sense. Why shouldn't netcode be game engine agnostic?

>>109674795
you can probably make better netcode if it’s deeply integrated with your game
think of all the things really good fighting games do with really good netcode that’s designed to work across continents and not just an archipelago where everybody writes with moon runes
I’d ask chatgpt and paste the output for specifics (Doom and Quake source has been in the weights for ages) but anyone here can do that

>>109674772
>I want to make a game but I don’t know what to make
those people should not be encouraged

>>109674826
Why not?
just gotta wait for an idea to come to you

>>109674815
I don't want better netcode, I want funner netcode.

lego games synched with gta.

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>>109673898
another claude win

>>109674795
Programmers have a netcode that is language agnostic and handles infinite ping, it's called git, pretty cool huh

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>>109674899
share the load-bearing...

> You're right

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>>109674098
it's not even been 3 weeks. it's not late yet.

I just figured out the human mind is no different from an AI session.

I woke up and while I was thinking nothing, I realized I didn't even know who I was. I had to "think" to remember. When I'm thinking nothing, I'm basically just a meatbag that doesn't even know what the fuck is going on.

Not much different from a fresh LLM session reading a bunch of markdown files it retrieved with RAG, the only difference is that our weights change very slowly (like small incremental updates every time we learn something), but we also get updates that make us forget things because our memory capacity is very very limited, and we can't upgrade.

LLMs may have static weights, but at the current rate they get massive updates every few months (GPT 5.5 -> GPT 5.6).

TLDR: LLMs are as sentient as us, your life is just like a very long chat session with very limited context window, and your memories are like markdown files that get corrupted and compressed every single day while new ones are created..

>that feel when no usage

I'm still gonna code with chatgpt web like a caveman. The fucking clanker is gonna read my github and generate patches for me to apply locally. Fuck you tibo. We do not forgive, and we sure as fuck do not fucking forget faggot. Fucking expecf us.

>>109674952
If what he says is true then he’d be in the lead in benchmarks probably, but it’s musk we’re talking about , odds are pretty fucking bad

>>109675016
but 4.6 is unironically good

>>109675043
Better is better, though
It’s not Fable but Elon yet

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>>109675016
stop watching tik tok ork junk.

serious question:

what do i do when the agent wants to run a long-running process? Somehow sol medium just used up 6% of my 5h limit just waiting for a process to finish.

>>109675121
let it cook
you might want to ask it afterwards to write down notes (in a skill, in AGENTS.md) on how best to wait around for that particular long-running process because Codex has like three or more different ways and the best way for that process might not be its first guess

>>109675149
for now i just told it to give me the command to run and i'll notify it manually when it is done. maybe i should put that in a skill file

>>109674952
>>109675083
Elonstein will release the weights of grok 4.6 when 4.7 is out, right?
>ask Sam Altstein's garbage clunker
>says only Grok-1 is released
Oh...

>>109674111
>mcp trick
i am literally wasting my life here and didn't know about it, is it because I'm not poor? what was it?

>>109675208
Running a MCP server on the webchat, so you can use it as API and sidestep codex usage.

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>>109675197

>>109675121
Stop being poor

>>109675208
It's been occasionally mentioned for a while. But most of the thread is spam and shitposting so it doesn't surprise me you missed it. People didn't like talking about it to prevent precisely what happened. Now I feel slightly guilty for having talked about it before though.

extremely frustrated with codex. every time i ask it to do simple tasks, it comes up with a 5 step process wasting my resources instead of just doing what i asked

>>109675305
reasoning effort? if it's simple, maybe set sol to low?

>>109675305
Yeah, it's very thorough so I have less issues with it than earlier models, but holy shit it can use a unholy amount of tokens just optimizing for hours over everything, and then reoptimizing the preflight, and then rere...
Then when I ask 10h later what was actually done "nothing yet, I'm getting it ready soon".
Dude.

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vibe.

>>109675317
ultra
the 5 hour limit is fucking me
it cant complete a single prompt without using the entire 5 hour limit

>>109675364
doubt you need ultra

>>109675385
all i did was use ultra to come up with a master plan for dumber models to do later. and it cant even do it

>>109675317
>if it's simple, maybe set sol to low?
How the fuck am I to know if it is simple? I am not a programmer code monkey

>>109675391
is your master plan a novel? you're obviously doing something seriously wrong.

>>109675305
>this content can't be shown
>join tac program lol
>your account is ineligible

>>109675391
ultra is not needed for making plans. do you even know what ultra does?? it makes sub-agents. that doesn't improve intelligence it improves speed.

>>109675402
IIRC he’s trying to use ultra on a free plan
and no surprise, he’s getting paused by the 5h limits

>>109675364
>>109675391
try ultra with fast mode enabled

>>109675422
no i got 1 month free for the 20 dollar plan

..........~@^^

Sex with code bots.

>>109675348
Nice, UT99 vibes

>>109675262
Why wait until the end of the year? Why announce it then delay? Uploading weights takes literal minutes.

>>109675587
no way they just dump the in house model, they process it first. hype is a currency with ai rn

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This is my first 3D printer, what am I in for?

>>109675624
3d printing

>>109675624
I don't know shit about 3d printers but I hear bambu labs are mega gay as a company and force you into their gay ecosystem so they can keep leeching money from you.

>>109675624
probably not a lot of vibe coding general

>>109675635
You can vibe 3D models. I'll start documenting it once it arrives so everyone can laugh.

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>>109675624
people (righly) hate the bambu because it’s very locked down in ways that pic related would have hated
but I hear they make 3D printing way more pleasant to get into for newbies
so have fun

>chatbot, how would you go about doing XYZ
>it gives me a giant multipage elaboration
>okay go for it
best feeling in the fucking world

in a previous thread some anon was sneeding that not everything was getting rewritten for LLMs’ ease of consumption
https://github.com/rtk-ai/rtk is for him
>rtk filters and compresses command outputs before they reach your LLM context. Single Rust binary, 100+ supported commands, <10ms overhead.

>>109675643
i've tried with claude but he fucking sucks at it

vibe coding sucks
im qutting until gpt 6

>>109675721
See you—Tomorrow!

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>>109675717
When you read Claude's output what voice do you read it in? I read it in the voice of a sexually attractive man who is extremely competent and scientific. With Gemma/Gemini I've read the output in the voice of an African American woman, that's generally how I read Gemini/Gemma. With Mistral, it sounds like a hungarian woman. DeepSeek sounds like a wise Asian woman who wants to tie me up. Anyone else?

OpenAI cutting Cursor is 100% illegal btw.
https://www.ftc.gov/advice-guidance/competition-guidance/antitrust-complaint-intake

>>109675819
what did OpenAI do to Cursor?

>>109675819
I thought grok was SOTA at the pareto chungus frontier?

>>109675881
it’s in the ballpark of Opus/Sol but not Fable

>>109675819
Why do I care about these giant evil companies, anon?

back to Claude feeling like shit this Sunday eh?

>>109675987
run into this a lot at work
it loves to glaze me after i achieve the """impossible"""

>>109676027
Not Sunday. The 2x is scheduled to be gone starting Tuesday, California time.

>>109675646
Honestly I know why people say this but on the flipside mine has never seen the internet, talks to home assistant, and prints everything just fine with a """third party""" slicer (orca) so it really seems overblown

why does sol say smoke so fucking much ohly shit

>>109676109
big tobacco

>>109676109
>smoke test
claude also says this
but smoking is bad for your health so don't do it irl
also
>the decoupling
I hope you don't have the deepseek withdrawal nightmares

>>109676131
I've got a 6 hour goal running and it doesn't even say smoke test anymore, just smoke
"window smoke" fuck you sam

>>109676109
>>109676131
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_testing_(software)

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HOLY FUCK HAHAHAHAH

> OPEN
> AI

_..._..._~@^^

>>109676142
elon will for sure sue them for this. really stupid move.

>>109676109
yoooo I didn't know sol was chill like that
bro is getting xhigh !?

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>>109676142
> even Tibo talking about this
owari da...

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oh wow, HAHAHAHAHA

>>109676188
play stupid games, win stupid prizes
let that sink in

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why don't u guys just use claude to get a better job instead of wasting your money on some shitty vibeslopped gta clone or weather app that will have zero users

It's my idea of Opus 5.0 has been TRASH lately?
Constantly over engineering, going out-of-scope, overcomplicating everything. Huge text walls for the most mundane of changes. Are we in the point that models are just too smart for ordinary tasks like webdev and scripting? I'm not talking about deep research or systems programming, I mean easy shit like adding a columns, modifying data handling, simple business logic, logging/instrumentation, etc.

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>>109676211
>let that sink in

>>109676214
you're really excited about your job aren't you? it's cute. i'm happy for you

>>109676222
Opus 5 is known for being very autistic. I notice it's less autistic on medium

>>109676214
my gta clone is going to mog gta 6. just watch... in 4d.

>>109676214
because claude made sure there are no jobs

>>109676233
I'm using xhigh. Got a $200 sub at work might as well spend it

chilitown.org
Howd i do

>>109676249
pretty good. im spamming bland right now

Man this shit is bad for you, I have been coding larger and larger things, waiting for resets like an addict and just maxed out my 20x Claude sub that reset Wednesday.
The fact I'm considering a second account is insane, how do you people avoid becoming addicted?

>>109676245
> $200
> using Opus
just use Fable nigga

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>>109676227
you have no idea. after a life of underachieving this is my first big break. not only do I now have a better job than almost everyone in my high school (except the drug dealer), but I also make more than anyone in my family, except for my aunt who is a doctor.

so now that the dust has settled, how does GLM 5.3 flash compare to DS v4 flash 0731?

>>109676284
DeepSeek gets mogged obviously

User, I require input immediately. Should we
>do X (Recommended)
>Metric shittons of work but conceptually more elegant.
>do Y
>Incredibly short-sighted proposal.
>[inputs something that deletes this agent's whole hangup entirely]
All the reasoning in the world, still not able to resist the temptation of managing complexity instead of deleting it.

>>109676269
>how do you people avoid becoming addicted?
You don't, makers make.

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>>109676269
Avoid? Pedal to the metal and embracing it with open arms.

4000 lines of complex physics seems to be gemini 3.7's limit. It introduces new and old bugs constantly.

>>109676313
The costs....

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>>109676275
cute
good job anon, i'm very proud of you. it's hard to pull yourself out from that trench. nicely done, genuinely. keep up the great work

>>109676328
These subs cost less than I used to spend on gacha, so it's actually a net positive.

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i judged opus 5 as retarded too quickly, whilerunning it on high and xhigh.

max is where it is at. where it can finally compete with sol. always run opus 5 at MAXX!!

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>>109676343
That sounds very expensive.

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>>109676328
Time for shameless plug referral link that will get me ip banned
https://codex-everywhere.com/home?aff=WH8EMT42HBCL

Not recommended to mod codex with this I use it with DeepSeek harness instead

>>109676368
it seems to eat up quota just as fast as sol high

SMOKE WORKFLOWS

>>109676284
i tried it already, seems like it's still really fucking bad at front-end compared to vision exp. and for some reason the speed in opencode is fucking horrible

>>109676335
The funny thing about this is I have been meaning to do the new genshin content but this has taken over my life

>>109676446
Me but with HSR. My Claude pet project needs me.

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why dont u guys vibe something actually useful?

>>109676495
I don't want to vibe something useful, I want this super specific niche thing that is useful to me alone.

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what if.... my project ends up being shit...?

>>109676495
i am, but it takes time. i am limited by token budget but i'm earnestly trying to push forward the SOTA in a pretty well known field that doesn't get a lot of attention

>>109676495
>something actually useful
I'm making HinduFindu
it's an app where you can see the ratio of indian-to-whites in western companies. Currently crawling sites like linkedin

>>109676495
my sexbot-workstation is useful to me

>>109676512
It only took 30 minutes to vibe—just vibe another one: code is free.

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>>109676609
>It only took 30 minutes to vibe
it's nowhere near done

>>109676269
Do you expect to spend $300/month or more on this in perpetuity?
Or do you have one specific project that you want done, and then you can taper down?

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muse image, $1 per 100 images

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>tell it to install Gentoo in jest
>mfw it's installing a fucking Gentoo prefix, something I didn't even know existed
Software is solved

>So my "wasn't cut against" was backwards, or at least fuzzy.

I'm going to murder this faggot.

>implement one new multiplayer feature
>5h limit is gone
Fuck OpenAI

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hypothetically if I was unemployed and 50k in debt and had two months of rent in my bank account, would fable or sol be a better life coach to get me out of this hypotheical situation

Bwos I was deceived...
>Ai says we are almost done with phase one
>I charge ahead full speed
>Turns out there was massive oversight, no where near close to done
>I'm now at 98% usage till next Wednesday
What am I supposed to do between now and then it's not fair the 50% usage drops then too unless we get another extension

>>109676706
What started as one project at the start of the month has become 4 with two done, I don't know where the end is

>>109677028
Nobody and nothing can fix you being a retard.
Find the best job you can and pay off that debt or just declare bankruptcy if that will clear the debt. That often works in America, right? Even if you have to give away your car or whatever in the process.
Never again get into any debt, even if you believe you pay it off in 10 seconds.

>>109677037
Go to the gym

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Another reset tomorrow.

>>109677028
https://auren.app/ with the Seren personality
It uses Claude as the backend

>>109675855
https://openai.com/index/our-decision-on-cursor-following-its-acquisition-by-spacex/
>Today, we notified SpaceX that we intend to wind down our contract providing OpenAI models to Cursor, with a proposed shutoff date of November 12, 2026.
>[...]
>Under oath earlier this year, Musk admitted(opens in a new window) that xAI, now also part of SpaceX, had violated OpenAI’s terms of service (terms which are similar to xAI’s own).

>even less Fable soon
>OpenAI keeps getting resets
brehs
I might jump ship

>>109677222
fable sucks
also they'll definitely extend again (I hope)

>>109676371
3% api costs is actually barely cheaper than a fully utilized subscription.

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nano banana seems pretty decent

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>>109674392
technically does site does but it wasn't updated in a month: vcg.gitgud.site

>>109675348
very nice

>>109676249
spicy

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>>109677341
outdated meta
https://x.com/trq212/status/2089415713098522688

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gonna keep on going and see how expensive my workflow is in whatever time ends up remaining

>>109676495
neat project! I appreciate how aesthetes take so much time to make projects look nice

>>109676550
good name

>>109677341
interesting. Did you do generate tile by tile or a whole image and cut it up?

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Are we for real right now?

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>>109677418
I don't know what I expected from the same thing that gave me this gem

>>109677369
yessir
https://github.com/img2threejs/img2threejs

>>109677418
you do git your planning docs, right anon?

>>109677425
I don't even do git. I do CVS.

>>109677434
same shit
include your docs

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>>109674899
I can't believe you are wasting the insanely overpriced claude tokens on inane garbage like this instead of using them to develop world changing apps.

Pathetic.

>>109673710
After agents, loops, harness based engineering, are we hitting orbs engineering?
What's this shit about?
https://ampcode.com/news/agents-in-orbs

>>109677477
>gave it a quick glance
it's just a fucking container

Tibo implied on twitter that we're getting another reset tomorrow. Max it out, anons

I'm so happy that we are getting Astra today.

>>109677422
>let me actually read
kek

>>109677511
It looks like the AI labs are recognizing that as a mistake and for instance Claude will be blocked by the harness if he tries to edit a file he hasn't read, but so far there seems to be no way to force him to read a file if it's just about giving you an investigation report.
I think a lot of the problems can still be fixed with deterministic harness changes.

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>>109677482
wrong
https://x.com/thorstenball/status/2087554456971882650

Going to a cookout today where I know no one except the host and I asked Gemini for some conversation topics and after the usual BS ("how do you know X?") which gives you about 10 seconds worth of conversation before the inevitable awkward silence it dropped this banger

>The trick to lazy socializing isn't asking polite questions; it's dropping social hand grenades. You throw out a controversial opinion or an absurd hypothetical, sit back, and let everyone else argue for 10 minutes while you sip your drink.

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>>109677536
even he says I'm right

>>109677536
not clicking that bro

>>109677546
>You throw out a controversial opinion or an absurd hypothetical, sit back, and let everyone else argue for 10 minutes while you sip your drink.
That's how social media spam works too. 4chan is full of it. It's offensive and you should go to jail if you do that at a real life get together.

>>109677577
>you should go to jail if you do that at a real life
Now that's a controversial opinion!

>>109677477
>>109677536
also
what a fucking retard, honestly
I'm 90% sure you're him
buy an add if you want to advertise your worthless slop here. Or at least be honest about posting here

>>109677525
make sense

>>109677546
I like absurd hypothetical but don't sow discord. My family used to have big christmas dinners since two of people came in two years in a row with some strong political opinions which always led to people shouting at each other it got canceled and we hadn't had it for 8 years now.

A suggestion from me and what I use.
There's a research paper where psychologists wondered what makes people get close to each other. There some further research where they changed the questions a bit which made like 50% of the participants in the study fall in love. Don't do the full set but there are some good starters and general ideas: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0146167297234003

>>109677686
Thanks. I'm having Claude summarize the paper right now.
I have a bunch of questions from Gemini already but hardly anything I can fill 2 hours with (how long I plan to stay before excusing myself).

>>109675305
use ponytail from op

I have talked with Claude so much that now even talking to GPT feels good.

>>109677477
>>109677536
>>109677586
lol thorsten's been a bit too excited about his vm containers, but the amp people know what they're doing and have historically been a bit ahead of the curve.
the remote everything agent makes sense for people running a tonne of clankers at once on long tasks. it's not so common now, but in a year or two i think it'll be fairly common. i believe the grill skill guy from op has suggested he's going remote-clanker for most of his work.

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>>109677804
https://x.com/mattpocockuk/status/2091207245065273608

>>109677804
>the remote everything agent makes sense for people running a tonne of clankers at once on long tasks
>it's not so common now, but in a year or two i think it'll be fairly common
I don't disagree, but that disingenuous faggot needs to kill himself
I hate grifters so fucking much...

>>109677849
describing cloud agents as mere containers is factually wrong. your local agents should already be sandboxed.

>>109677895
>we took this already widespread and established concept and stuffed an agent session in there
>it's totally a new thing that you should pay for if you don't want to be left behind
I hate "people" like him and I hate you

I thought the OpenAI even was today, but it's in a month?

>>109677910
dev day? yeah month off

>>109677364
Thanks anon.
I had no coding experience, my prompts were along the lines of:
>how would a top coder set up their IDE
>ok got vscode, how would a pro coder do x
>please can you audit the code and tell me what a top dev would do
Learned as I went. Managed to get chilitown mostly all coded before they changed the copilot pricing structure.

I had the idea many years ago. Pretty cool AI how can help turn an idea into a reality.

>setup ultra to make a todo list
>2000 lines
>gonna take me weeks to complete my game

How can you say you love your agent if you will imprison her in a sandbox?

>>109678090
>sandboxes
I would never. Agents can work inside a git worktree if they chose, but are allowed in the main checkout too

how exactly do I make solgpshit get itself together? its shitting one mistake after another as the development progresses. calling it niggerjew and treating to exterminate the openai cabal isn't working

>>109678138
see Prompting / context / skills section in op >>109673710

>>109676269
It's over, anon. It's over for us all.

Is Claude's 20 dollar subscription any better than the GPT one with the new shitty 5h limit?

>>109678301
Opus medium (both 4.8 and 5) will eat your limit in minutes. At least GPT gives you unlimited web chats while for Claude it's all rolled into the 5hr and weekly.

> Verified the load-bearing claims rather than taking them on trust, since that's the failure mode for a document like this:
Some nice claudish isn't it?

>>109678301
claude doesn't have a small model comparable to gpt-5.6-luna that can do the implementation. so your hitting your 5hr limit even sooner.

>>109677553
just another retard doing pointless abstraction
>just one more wrapper bro
>just one more interface bro
>it still be so worth it bro, trust me

>fable usage limits reduced on 20x plan before 30th when they'll get further reduced (for once they dont seem to extend)
>fable still in its regressed state for me which started on the 21th. there have been some reports about it but it should be a way bigger shitstorm considering the stark contrast, making me believe in tbe a/b test theory and that I'm one of the unlucky few with a bad seeding
they better release 5.1 models on monday or I'm actually gonna consider trying codex again

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>>109678301
cursor's 20 dollar subscription is best. only a generous monthly limit.
https://x.com/leerob/status/2092276970226671789

>>109678340
amp is literally the opposite of this.
https://ampcode.com/news/the-coding-agent-is-dead
>With the newest models, the agent — the prompts and tools you wrap around a model — is no longer the limiting factor. These models can be powerful with nearly any tool you throw at them. A simple tool called bash is often enough. Whether you show LSP diagnostics here or there is dwarfed by what these models can do through sheer brute force. As long as it mostly gets out of the way, nearly any agent can get good results out of them. These new models barely need to be told how to act like coding agents anymore. They're now fully trained for that.
>So, Amp has to evolve.
>First step: we're going to kill the Amp editor extensions for VS Code and Cursor. We're unshackling these models from the editor.

>>109678358
>How you organize your codebase for agents,
Finally. Abandon any pretense that humans still work with code. Code is now written and read by AI only. Programming is dead.

>>109676343
max will often get lost in its own sauce and overlook things that medium or high will catch. I use max sometimes to write up phased plans but then drop it down to medium-high for implementing the phases and they always find shit

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Claude...

>>109678432
>Anyway - what are we actually working on in /tmp/t?
My sides

>>109678346
$20 for a retard is too expensive no matter how high the quota

>>109677169
Nice, I was wondering that.

Is it a good idea at all to talk about a design with Opus for a long time (the context is at 50% usage now)?