>>109710688No links because fuck that guy edition
>>109723825>>>109710688 >No linksOP...
lmao at codetard luds not getting into management trackmanagers will never be replaced by AIin fact we using AI to replace you
>>109723864>managers will never be replaced by AIfalse
>>109723864>in fact we using AIIndian detected.
Leadership is retarded.
Luddites are retarded
goodnight /twg/
I'm retareded.
/twg/ is retarded.
do you pronounce /twg/ as twig or tee wu gee
>>109724280I pronounce it as "bunch of fucking retards, the most retarded retards amongst retards"
>>109724199*kisses u*goodnight sweet prince
if i had a cute furry boyfriend with smooth skin and pinchable nipples, this would all be worth itbut alas...
This thread and everyone in it are retarded.
>>109724340Because india pays politicians to allow this to happen. Next question
>>109723825as a Euro in some big insurance company I see AI shit shilled everywhere but not much of a impact is that the same for you guys? I feel like the c suite just got a new tool to make boast and claims but the actual work we have to do cannot be done by the bot due to data laws etc. Also I would have thought that maybe with the bots we would get faster replies but nope same shit as always.
>>109724428progress better plateau immediately or we're fucked
>>109724428it's a very useful tool for software development, but the people that use it to vibe code are either:a- retardedb- work in some low skill tech sweatshop where they shit out buggy CRUD slop all dayc- all of the above
>need to submit a spec for some new functionality, nothing crazy just some notifications and reports>I know devs don't want bullshit, they want concrete and exact details>tell our two SMEs I'll help them write it up>"nah anon we've got this, cancel the meeting">CC'd on their email with the spec and request for testing estimate>2500 word document quite obviously written by AI>"report must contain critical details">"notification must contain enough information"These people live in such a world of bullshit and "high level"
>>109724340Welcome Gerald Gongon!
LLMs are a sick twist on Hegel's master-slave dialectic by removing consciousness from the slave. The original master-slave relation contains development because the slave develops and eventually reverses the relation. Rather, the human is just becoming increasingly passive and removed from the mediating process. The product of the slave's activity creates the appearance of greater capability while the underlying capacity atrophies.If your thinking occurs through an external intelligence you treat as an instrument, in what sense are you still the master of your own thinking?AI will either become the mechanism of stagnation or the realisation of our own need to think.
>>109723864>in fact we using AIMaybe try first with learning English, Pajeet.
When was the last time you reflected on what your childhood self desired and what you now do? I wanted to live in the woods, interact with nature, feel the environment on my skin. I desired to be intelligent and thoughtful and have discussions with others. What I do now is sit in a sterile environment with unchanging climate and stare at a screen for fourteen hours a day and provide commands to a box which enacts my will in ways I don't know how using languages I don't know faster than I can read the response of it telling me it will do it. There is no intellectual betterment because if I stop to learn what it is doing then my competitive edge against my peers may be lost and I'll be removed from this job randomly without warning.
When are tech companies going to start including a $200/mo credit towards llm subscriptions as a benefit? I don't want to pay for this myself
>>109724678My limit is $10k a month from my company
>>109724688yeah but is that personal or for work? I don't want to ask personal shit on my work account
>>109724691For work but I can use it for personal stuff as long as its not commercial
It's almost 4am, I can't sleep, and tomorrow I have to go to the office.I don't want to do this shit anymore.
>>109724340>Sankeeth Gorrillalel
>>109724340I'm convinced that all jeeted companies are propped up by a very small number of competent white males with an unfortunate cuckold fetish.
>>109724688lo how the fuck is that sustainable for them? it's an extra yearly 120k for each employee
>>109724928Investing several trillions into AI companies that don't have large demand for their services and fail to turn a profit is not sustainable either, yet it is happening. You are living in a vibe-based economy right now
>>109724928The limit until a week ago was $100k a month. If they lowered it then that means someone was exceeding $10k
You can only fail upwards.
>>109725071what if I get caught goonplaying with chatgpt on company time and fired?
FUCK GOOGLE CLOUD, WHAT A STUPID PIECE OF SHIT. THEY HAVE LIKE 800 UNDOCUMENTED APIs, AND THE ONLY DOCUMENTATION I CAN FIND IS OUTDATED BECAUSE THEY KEEP CHANGING THE FUCKING APIs EVERY WEEK, AND I CAN’T ASK AI BECAUSE IT’S TRAINED ON THE OUTDATED DOCUMENTATIONSo I need to get the reviews from a Google Business account, but Claude tells me I have to use this Google My Business API, which, by the way, is blocked, to access the API, YOU HAVE TO ASK GOOGLE FOR PERMISSION TO USE ITWHAT THE FUCK?, and it didn't even work. I filled out the form, and after three weeks, I still haven't heard back, so I don't know what to do
>>109724900The companies I have worked with that have bad hiring practices tend to have entrenched businesses which can withstand almost unlimited amounts of dysfunction before failing.
>>109725091>company that could not have been better positioned to reap the benefits of the whole LLM mania>gets it's teeth kicked in my OpenAI and Anthropicsaar google number one best hiring practices best people in the business mister pichai is best
How are your orgs dealing with people raising huge pull requests because they can churn out crap with AI?I'm looking at a pull request with 143 changed files right now
https://x.com/AdrianDittmann/status/2095001959665406237
>>109725142They're not, new MO is feeding the pull request to claude and approving whatever it says
The Madness™ has reached my company, it's fucking over. I've never been this despondent about this career, might have a door to cybersec but seems it's the same shit.
>>109724574>reading hegelretard pseud and probable commie detected.
>>109725435>he hasn't read every philosopherposeur
>>109725435How do you know hegel is for retard pseuds if you haven't read him?
>>109724964they do have large demand, its the government who will just print money. and the BOD, CEO, and financiers will just win-trade in cooperation with the government to make all the numbers work to the massive detriment of the working class.the single largest use case for AI is mass surveillance and its guaranteed to be not only useful, but necessary in an empire with mass immigration, ethnic tension, and basically zero patriotism. they are going all in on hard power. we have been gradually entering a despotic caeserism phase of the west for awhile now.
>>109725471because pseud retards love to talk about him. and taking the opinion of other philosophers who have said hes verbose and cringe.hes like the david lynch of philosophy. gay, retarded, pointless, but a good tool for the pretentious to signal how cultured or read they are.
>>109725490>because pseud retards love to talk about himyou're describing every philosopher
>got tasked with doing a redesign for the website>been told for weeks that QA was going to start checking it>they still haven't>at this point I have literally over 100 tickets in the 'To Test' column
>>109724428We are banned from proactively using any AI slop because public sector/military/medtech customers.We told all of our customers that if they want AI they can pay for the tools if they really think we will deliver better and faster.Not a single customer agreed to use AI, too much garbage to be solved around it. They aren't retarded, they know its a scam.All of this in the EU market.
>>109725142>I'm looking at a pull request with 143 changed files right nowRookie numbers. The lead dev in my current project dropped a 700 file turd on my plate just this week.Can't do anything about it, because most people in this profession do not care at all and are willing to set everything on fire as long as they get the next monthly salary. Last guy who caused millions in damage in my project went and got a C-level job in a similar mid-size consultancy as ours.
>>109725631I bet his CV has the line "delivered a highly complex project in record time"
>boss, ceo and manager keep pushing number of tasks and tokens burnt as the sole measure of productivity on a new project>every developer telling them we have next to no knowledge of the project>pr reviews are now "blockers" and things to speed up using AIWhat do you think about working as a gardener? I think I might enjoy being outdoors for a change.
>>109726434Don't you find it entertaining how much effort and stress is poured over production of miniscule things? Decades of slave driving of office workers hunching over some meaningless papers and working to deliver yet another good that we don't even need. Look at all those trillion dollar worth companies, did Apple, Meta, Oracle really improve our lives? Decades of wasted capital and effort just to develop the new Internet drug that doesn't really improve people's quality of living.
>>109726310That's every fucking profession
>>109723825I can't take this shit anymore bros, I need a way out. Only problem is I just did some yard work and realized manual labor sucks even more than tech. Maybe suicide is the only answer
>>109726489Kek it is kind of like, some physical work can feel refreshing. But then you think, being stuck doing this for 8-10 hours a day for the next 20 years would blow even harder than the mental hell chamber that is tech.
>>109726489>>109726513>WAHHH MAKING $200k A YEAR TO PROMPT IS SOOO BAD BECAUSE MY COWORKER IS INDIAN AND SOMETIMES I HAVE TO WORK ON SATURDAYStech "workers" are the most entitled pieces of shit ever
>Recruiters are still not answering
where do i go to start learning to code?
>>109726527For me, the biggest thing, is being robbed of my work satisfaction. I like building and fixing things and getting real things done. But the industry has ballooned in overhead to the point that "real things" are no longer the point or priority. I spend 90% of my time dealing with other overhead nonsense. That's maddening for a personality type like mine which values real productivity. It is not maddening for the women and feminine men who built this paradigm around what used to be a simple thing, "just build software."It reminds me of why I never liked K-12 schooling. Most of it was useless, inane, timewasting nonsense. It's like that has somehow caught up and infested my place of work.
>current job is soul-suckingly awful, underpaid and has left me burnt out>new job posting that's closer to home, pays more and seems a little more relaxed>job is through a staffing company whose leadership is primarily IndianIs it unreasonable for me to not apply for this job solely because I dislike jeets? I've never worked under them before but I have to imagine it's just as fucking awful as working with them, but at the same time I'm so miserable in my current position I'm seriously considering just biting the bullet and doing it.
>>109726554Its unreasonable because you think they wouldnt instantly filter you out for being a Timmy so you shouldn’t be wasting timeIts also unreasonable that you arent immediately concerned about this company choosing to outsource their employee acquisition to jeets
>hate my team meetings so I sign up for skill workshops.>yeah this is going to be really good for me. I'm going to learn a lot from this workshop>day of>immediately don't want to do it anymore and just want to slack off.what the fuck is wrong with me. why do I waste so many fucking opportunities for myself.
I have the growing feeling that at some point the manager will put the entire team in a Teams meeting and fire us all because they can replace us now
>>109726461It improved the quality of life of the stakeholders. Stop being selfish and think about the greater's good
>>109726593whatever you do, don't go back when they call you back
>>109726310Well I majored in embedded and what they taught at university and what they ask in job interviews match pretty well with the job.I hear that mostly from web devs that dropped out of uni, that you don't need school because it didn't teach them the hip webstack.
I vibecode. It's bliss never having to ask a jerkoff for help on stackexchange.
>>109726554racism is generally unreasonable yes
>>109724664i do literally exactly what child me always dreamed of doing but never thought i would actually be able to do
>>109726662Is there anywhere that's still doing it primarily manually?
called off sick today but i'm not sick
>>109726310Computer science is a major focused solely on theory; the only helpful topic that comes from taking computer science when trying to get a swe is DSA.
my cousin works part time as a security guard (and collects disability) and it's crazy to think that my benefits package has a potential worth more than his yearly salary lolat least now I can pay him back the money I owe him
>>109726724Yeah, but he doesn't have aids.
>>109726554eh, in my experience once you start working, you'll really only interact with the staffing company for timesheets stuff and payslips.it's obviously a concern, but if you can check somehow if they have a good track record of paying on time it's good enough.opens up the chance to play their shitty game for a bit and then try to get hired at the real company if you like the place
>>109726724Same, although the difference is not as big.he's visibly fucking up his knees/feet by standing for 6-8h/day but he's too retarded for anything else
>>109726580>going to the workshop>it's going so slow because retards don't know how to computerhow do these many people have a fucking job
>>109726724funny because I have a friend in security and his life seems 100x more sweeter than I do>has amazing benefits due to working for a government building>pay isn't too bad>work is just closing/locking some doors, answering calls, talking to staff but most of the time him and his coworkers just take meeting rooms and just play on their phones for 8 hours a day>literally nobody is questioning why one office room has a bunch of couches>management is relatively chill (few assholes but you can get out of their way)idk man looking at that and dealing with "omgggg how was your weekend it was goood thats good omgggg how was yoursssss????" 8 hours a day with a 2 hour commute one way seems like paradise.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/109614944/#109626201hey fellow goyslaves its me againthe black guy who always spam smalltalks me on Teams asked me if he could come over after work to "socialize". he wrote it exactly like that including quotes. apparently im made for bbc now
>>109723864>>in fact we using AI to replace youkys esl
>>109723825me on the toilet, waiting until it's time for lunch
>>109726953Yeah my cousin loves it. Before he switched to part time he was working second shift at a golf resort and would spend like 6-8 hours a day driving around a go kart while watching videos on his phone.
sometimes i wonder why i even bother making le clean commits with good messagesmaybe i should go back to squashing days of work and call it "updates" or "fixes"
>>109723864ai manages ai...
>>109726985>>109626201great posts
I have two part-time student worker job offers, both are one year contracts. Unfortuantely it's the typical company name/type vs. function dilemma.The first offer is from a well-known semiconductor company but the job has very little tech share and basically just a glorified project management assistant job.The second job is the typical Data Analytics entry-level job. Dashboards, KPI, PowerBI, etc but it's at a mid-sized textile company.I already have 2 years of part-time R&D Lab experience in materials science in other industries.What job should I slave at? What would you pick? The economy is trash.
>>109727230>yeah bro I was a janitor at NASA for 5 years. Can you give me a rocket engineering job?t. you in the futureGet the experience that is the most relevant to what you want
>>109727230I normally go for pay & location above all other considerations. However if you have a career goal to achieve you need to set yourself up in those positions to make it happen. If you have zero ambitions and just like a certain type of work then you need to decide if that work is more important that another somewhat interesting position.
>>109726953>8 hours a day with a 2 hour commute one way seems like paradise.thats 3 hours a day to masturbate why the fuck do you drive 2 hours to work. I say this as someone that lives in houston, has lived in outlining suburbs and communted to houston as well. taking a job 2 hours away is insanity you have put on yourself. you working at googlebook and a suburb of austin or something? they started making people go on site i believe and probably to get a bunch to quit
>don't wanna burn bridges>everyone is a fucking asshole retard where I inevitably end up doing it by being pissed off at asshole retards and they put me at don't rehirethis actually fucking pisses me off, I'll never outwardly call someone out or get angry but because I'm no longer engaging with your bullshit anymore, apparently I get flagged.fuck these people man. next job I'm gonna fucking shit on someone's desk
>>109727419Doing a job you like less in a better company makes sense if the experience can then be used to pivot to what you want. If it's going to be consideres worthless when you look for another job then it's better to get in the worse company now and try to hop to a similar role in a better company later
>>109726543>That's maddening for a personality type like mine which values real productivity. It is not maddening for the women and feminine men who built this paradigm around what used to be a simple thing, "just build software."Yeah same for me, due to the shit job market I've had to go from being a dev to a QAI thought that might be interesting: test software, find bugs, debug to find the route course, offer fixesBut all I do is run tests, grab screenshots, and if I find an issue all I get to do is log a jira ticket and send it to the devs to ignoreI spend most of my time on procedural bollocks like jira tickets and time logging. Oh and meetings, lots of meetingsIt is maddening for an ISTP, and other doer personalities
>>109727047i tried doing security guard, theyd make me work 12 hour shifts from 7pm to 7am. had to call in on my radio every 15 or 30mins i cant remember. I was sitting in my car watching a parking lot reading a book. Dude in charge of the hotel comes running out flipping out because i was reading a book and not actively staring at cars. shit was insane one of the worst jobs ive had, ive had over 30+ jobs. sure some security jobs are good, but that seems true about everything. Find the anecdote that you then think proves the rest of reality wrong.
I have read every post in this general for like 5 years and I am now posting for probably the second or third time to say fuck AI and fuck this industry
>>109727346>>109727419The problem is that neither job is optimal, like I have already said but I have to decide within the next 2 weeks. I ultimately want to work in an R&D/engineering role in a materials science/engineering adjacent industry preferably in either semiconductors or something battery technology. I am already set on moving on after 9 months, the question is, what provides for the better pivot? Doing some entry-level data dashboard shit, that is more in a business context or something like project management/lifecycle management at a semicon company?
>>109726554A. They won't hire you because you're not a lower caste jeet than themB. If they did hire you it's to be the white monkey they drag out to dance in front of clients, and you'll be bothered by indians going "Sarrrr how to be fixing this really obvious issue?"
>>109726533unironically LLMs. Ask them what documentation is and how to use it to learn your programming language of choice, and then use documentation alongside LLMs. Start by trying and failing to build something simple, just command line based at first with no GUI
>>109727346My dad was a janitor at Boeing and he worked himself up to rocket engineer. This doesn't happen anymore?
>>109727524ask an llm idk
>working for a microsoft teams compamy
>>109727556only if you and your wife are willing to let your boss cuck you. go talk to him he'll give more detailed advice
>>109723864>managers will never be replaced by AIfuckass egomaniacs like you that do nothing but glorified secretary work, segregate/isolate teams and do bad game of telephone between them with half shit "fix this" tickets will be first to be replace, fuckfaceyour micromanaging of horrible hires isn't a skill or something to be proud of either
>>109727515Heard a similar story where a guy had to go between 2 locations via underground during night shift roughly every 145mins for 15 mins of total travel time. His only reprieve from the boredom is that he could bring his laptop to work on college, watch anime and play video games. He was working on a Homeland Security degree with zero ambitions to do anything else in his life but that job or a better paying chiller job than that. I think it takes a certain mentality to perform security work especially since it can still be dangerous.
>>109727644I'd rather have Friend Computer manage me than a jeet middle managerAt least Friend Computer won't go "hello quick call? *rings*" whilst I'm having my lunch
>>109727672Meant to say 1 hour and 45 mins. Not 145 mins that would be way chiller.
>>109727674had a manager like that once, first time that cunt bluffed with firing me I quit and she flabbergasted2 weeks on that shit job, every other manager after that I have a quick power play where I do their job better than them for a week after the hire and then they realize they're replacable so they back off on the fucking micromanagementif they take my additional unprompted role taking as a given and don't respect my output then I just slowly but surely don't contribute as much as earlierpavlov dogs works nicely on retards
>>109727047>>109726953If I give up working in tech one job I've thought about is a dog handler at my local airportGet to walk around with a puppy all day, all the cute girls going on their jollies go "ohhh look, so cute", get to ruin the day of some pakis trying to smuggle heroine back from their home countrySounds like a life
>>109727710>first time that cunt bluffed with firing me I quit and she flabbergasted
>>109727771Probably made her wet anon.
GPT 6 is out, and basicallly... we're cooked. What are you lads going to do in the post-white collar world? Me? Planning on working as a barista at the nearby Starbucks. They'll probably make me do all the grunt work like taking the garbage out and cleaning the shitters, but least I'll get to work with cute women.
>>109727793Truck driver, bank teller or radiologist. Idk I can't decide
>>109727819Truck driver is way to boring i would fall asleep during that job and die. Radiologist sounds good but it's gotta be competitive. Bank teller is basically disappearing we nearly had 2 million people in finance, banking or investing and since 2008 those jobs have been scarce.
>>109727838how about a call center job? maybe be the guy that answers at a call center drive through. Bank teller jobs are still around btw
>>109727850At that point consider working for a MSP doing helpdesk. IT is really easy if you take the time to learn Networking.
>>109727793least obvious shillnobody is using gpt
>>109727850Call centers are getting automated you foolish boy
>>109727793If I can get five good years more, I think I will be fairly independent financially.Half of my family are reindeer herders and I can get a big house in the countryside for less than 30 000 €. I will probably just become a hermit if tech jobs disappear entirely (unlikely in my books).
>new employee in the zoom meeting is very cute>she's offshore (again)such is life....
>>109723864the companies I've worked at over the past 6 years started nuking/flattening/spreading their management layers already
>>109727771>>109727791this was back in 2022 when I had a bright idea of doing 2 jobs at same time and manager cunt gave me a good idea to do rewrite of whole ETL api from go to python in a months timeI did good 50% of the goal in about a week and a half but she kept calling me every 10 minutes on my phone to ask me where I am cuz I was offline so I told her that I don't sit at my computer during whole 8 hours but I eat/shit/things and that I do my job mostly at night as she can see from her activity monitor.I explained to her that as long as I do my job correctly that she shouldn't be so angry at me since my job is just rewriting the old codebase into a new one in absurd retarded deadline that I was informed only few days onto the job. She got extra prissy saying that she needs me available during all the minutes of my working hours and that if I am not that I should be looking for a new job so I told her that I quit. 5 minutes of her gasping over the phone she tried picking at me by saying "ohhh this is because you're so cool and smart and you can easily find a new job huuuh???" I told her "Have fun trying to find my replacement to finish the rest of the code rewrite in this deadline and best of luck in your career", blocked her everywhere (phone, and then later on on linkedin and other social media because she kept stalking me) and then had to get with a colleague from the same town where I did handoff of the equipment cuz she was prissy and wanted to do it ASAP. Prissy little cunt, she got a bit of sense of power with rest of people since she was going for a higher position and wanted to get upper management to notice her. She was straight out of college and extra cunty by word of mouth.This was a second job and my first one payed better and had more reasonable managers so I thought I could switch between those two but she wanted my undivided attention by the sense of it so I dropped that job. I did manage the multi-job combo later on tho.
>>109727791oh she was wet for sure, me and my gf laughed at her stalking me for weeks later on
>>109723825lmao.A few years ago I offshored most of my own workload to india, where I just check the quality of the code and do the docs. Then I started using AI myself to do the docs myself and that worked.Now I use AI to do the code and the docs and just give the resulting apps a visual check. No coding, no documenting, no indians to deal with. I am 90% free of work and getting paid the same as before. I only have to worry about my token subscription.My employer knows nothing of any of this.
>>109728086why don't you get another job dumbass
Did anyone else here also have to write a report after finishing their internship?
Guess not
>>109728086your employer is slowly doing the same to you
>>109728219No, but I had to do a presentation to the team about what I worked on at the end of my internship.
Kino for business insighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td_PGkfIdIQ
Past 2 weeks have been nice for once. Been finally given the time to fix a bunch of jeet code that's been causing mass instability. Too bad soon it'll be back to wranging whatever our boomer client and their AI (Army of Indians) want next week.
>>109728388how to launch zero successful products in 19 years and still be profitable by making money only on DRM and children gambling. holy epic based kino le gabens!does he break down the NY AG office lawsuit at all in the video too? the same office that just fined ticketmaster half a billion for unfair biz practice?
>>109728437Sounds like jealous poor faggotry.
>>109728019>rewrite of whole ETL api from go to python in a months timeWhy the fuck would they want to do that? Usually it's the other way to gain performance
>>109728437>SteamDeck isn't a successful productHoly retard.
>>109728475low amount of workforce has go skills (at least in my country) and they pissed off the last go guy until he quit so they wanted to universalizeit was a shit company and they didn't care about performance cuz they had locked in contract with couple of smaller companies
>>109728456no, i love le gabens. hes epic for the win and the most consumer friendly CEO there is. hes not like the other guys. he buys out IP, doesnt use it or takes a massive shit on it and makes it unplayable, and then turns it into a casino.i love that he took two of my favorite games from my childhood and turned them into time wasting casinos for brown children.all the lawsuits theyre currently in the middle of are just from jealous haters. steam really pushes the envelope in the industry. now every multiplayer game follows their template of player retention models masquerading as sbmm and cosmetics driven gameplay. they pioneered some of the best things to happen to gaming.>>109728479it underperformed in most regards and isn't comparable to other handhelds at all in sales. its an irrelevant niche product compared to something like the switch.its entirely possible they lost money on it after factoring in R&D, marketing, etc.you are a gullible fanboy.
>>109728555No one gives to shit about retards gambling. You don't have to play dumb gacha games so you can goon to PNG's of anime women. Besides who gives a shit you are just mad because reddit told you to have that opinion kike.
>>109728504>Piss off the last go guy, piss off the guy hired to do the migrationThat tracks Was it the same dumb cunt manager that drove off the go guys?
>>109728555So you use EPIC game store then?
>>109728555Valve ruined Day of Defeat Both the HL1 mod and source game
>>109728219No? Zooms need to do this now?lollmao
>>109728567reread what i wrote very carefully. they buy out IP and turn it into gambling focused gameplay. like cs and dota. they have also set the standard in the industry to orient games like this with player retention and cosmetics.reddit is extremely pro steam, they are the most gullible and easily marketed people on the planet. the entire site is bots. you are clueless for suggesting redditors would be anti steam.apparently the new york state's AG team gives two shits about it, as they are in the middle of litigation https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2026/attorney-general-james-sues-game-developer-promoting-illegal-gambling-through>>109728598yeah they ruin everything they touch. its the shittiest company in the world but they have an excellent PR and marketing team. their pioneering of "sbmm" pretty much ruined multiplayer games if you have the slightest value for your time.they had to be forced by EU to allow refunds on games that crashed on launch with 0 hours played lol. people going around sucking them off and saying theyre "pro consumer" is the most insane thing ever. they print money with DRM and children gambling. everything they do that isnt that has underperformed massively. this is why hl3 will never come out, they arent capable of making something living up to that hype, not even close.
>>109728631>Children gamblingParents deserve to have their bank accounts drained for giving their kids control of the credit cards. They deserve this for being dumb retards.
>>109728370I had to summarize it a bit when I had to interview for a job position.>>109728614It's just college bureaucracy. My college also requires me to do an internship, so it must be that.
>>109728631Considering your take on child gambling.Would you propose removing mystery flavors, blind box items, and trading card games? These are gambling devices undeniably aimed at children.
>>109723825is it just me or is hiring for tech workers wayy more autistic than virtually every other job out there?is it because of the pay? or is it a grass is always greener thing?
>9-5 your office job, clock off and go out / do your hobbies or activities or just go to sleep calmly completely knowing that as long as you dont do something obscenely retarded, you can maintain your lifestyle and peace of mind Millennials and zoomers will literally NEVER know this feel.
>>109728696We are about 50% autismo. If you worked in Research labs or some high end military position that number jumps to 80% with some of them being barely functional human beings.
>>109728579Yup, cunty mc cunt washed her hands clean each time blaming the devs for it thoShe played the company politics game good enoughI did give a CTO and VP of engineering an early retirement through similar shenanigans couple years later but I was smarter that time and just emailed every upper and middle management with screenshots and logs of conversations showing their wrongdoings during my 2 weeks notice (a month before ready for market for a client) when they denies me my payraise and kept bullying me to stay long hours and forcefully made me handoff the project to idiot subordinates of VP (cuz they were same nationality)After I sent my email all my access got revoked and the whole company structure got nuked into oblivion, come to find out 3 months later a manager I absolutely loved got the CTO position, previous CTO and VP deleted their LinkedinsServes them fucking right because I built the whole product from PoC to MVP in 3 months (CI/CD, infra and multiple envs included) but after I did the whole product in record time and got praise from CEO directly in front of whole company I was easy target for prissy middle management. I even tried talking out the issues amicably and reasonably over with the managers like:>hey guys we are a small team of 6 devs why do we have 2 teams leads on this team?or>hey guys why don’t we have a company wide approved api keys with good authorization and authentication for services and not expect devs to use personal keys to dev onor>hey guys whats the approved workflow? Some of us use confluence for documentation and some write documentation in the repo, we should standardize thingsor>hey are we using poetry or conda? Shit like that (I documented all that)Management that doesn’t do their job is easy to get uprooted and changed, you just need to cover your bases, be mentally ready to burn the bridge behind you, document everything and detonate the nuke when they fucked you and pissed you over enough times
>>109728631>but they have an excellent PRThey live off old hype from back when steam sales regularly had newish games at 90% off, or publishers entire back catalogs for peanutsSteam sales are shit now Valve are pretty cunty, just slightly less cunty than the rest of the industryAt least they haven't pushed faggotory or kang worship as hard as every other company, but that will probably change when Gabe's heart stops pumping KFC gravy and pepsi and his son takes over, apparently he's more than a bit of a limp wristed poofter
>>109728986Him staying private is the only thing keeping it afloat. Ex Valve devs say its really hands off management. Once it goes private by some means it will open the floodgates for bullshit.
>>109729016Yeah that's probably a big factor, once they go public blackcock and fagguard will be there to buy a controlling stake
>>109728665feel free to google the thousands of times people have argued that stupid premise already.my view on it is they are a very scummy company even aside from targeting children with gambling. it just happens to be in this case its probably illegal and going to incur severe penalties in court.the things that actual bother me about them is that their reputation is incredibly high while their practices regarding consumers are very scummy, among the worst. that and causing the industry to use player retention models in games to make everything a massive waste of time. they have infinite money and instead of doing anything interesting with it, they just focus on gambling and making dogshit novelty hardware at a loss. they buy out IP and let skeleton crews run it even though they have the money to actually make games and improve the existing ones they own.cs needed meaningful updates and fixes for years. tournaments were being played at 64tick among a million other problems. instead it was a 1 or 2 person crew keeping it up. when they ported it to cs2 they rushed it and only did so because it allowed them to put more meaningless cosmetics in the game. the netcode ended up even worse, game has stuttering issues on highest end rigs, removed features, 50% of games have cheaters, etc.supposedly tf2 has the same issues. every IP they own they just skeleton crew it while running gambling focused updates once in awhile.the reputation they have makes 0 sense. they are the most jewish company ever despite not actually being so.the rare occasion they try producing a game its ass too. deadlock is absolute ass.anyway my point being i am happy to hear the NY AG office is going after them. i hope they rape them. figuratively and literally.>>109728986the only reason they havent pushed anything lgbt is because they havent made anything in the last 15 years
got bored of this career so i quit my SWE role to have more sex with other trans women, make more art, and read more.feels like i got out just in time.t. 8 years of experience
>>109729085>feel free to google the thousands of times people have argued that stupid premise already.So you don't have an argument I accept your concession on what gambling is.
>>109729085MTG and Pokemon are the same level of gambling as CSGO skins. You either pay to get what you want through luck or you are unlucky and get something you don't want. Also kids gambling is a parents responsibility since parents are the ones giving them money. Adults gambling is a state and federal issue but retards will gamble anyways.
>be me, intern>boss tells me to AImax and tokenmax>do what he tells me>upper management gets a bill of $4400 in tokens from me>they get mad at me and setup a meeting to discuss my AI usagewish me luck
>>109729134If its not in email or writing you are going to have a bad time with a shitty manager.
>>109725091The source code is the documentation. Have you checked the Google repo? There's only one, but you'll need a few TB free to download it. Should only take a few hours on a fast connection (you do have FTTP right?)
>>109728660>It's just college bureaucracy. My college also requires me to do an internship, so it must be that.Slavery is illegal, Anon. Unless you're a convict serving time in prison.
>>109729169NTA sadly that is common in most universities for a grade no less. Pure bullshit i would rather take another class than be forced to pay school for the privilege of a underpaid internship at the company of their choosing.
>>109726310This is true of most jobs.School is theory in a perfect world. Interview is what you did in the past. Job is dealing with people.
>>109723825>the invisible work of engineering managers"Invisible" is a good way of describing it. Most of the work they do and results of that work are all in their heads.
I need some advice. Gotten great advice from some anons on these threads in the past.With the way things are, I'm going to need more money. Coasting at a job with pay that was decent 4 years ago when I joined is not going to cut it. I'm obviously not getting a raise either.I think I am good at interviewing and writing my resume (though a friend says I'm spoiled due to how things are for software devs), but I don't have any prestigious uni or company name on my resume, I'm a typical candidate. And now with top companies asking for onsite or hybrid with 3 days a week onsite, I probably always will. Being a wagie in cagie is a red line for me personally. I know saying this makes me look bad and is disrespectful to most people who do it. But I personally just really don't want to work onsite more than a couple days a week.Also, not like this actually matters that much, but I'm actually very good at the actual job, as in, if there's a technical interview it will probably benefit me. Never had a complaint about my work, even if there's a work conflict and they hate me, it's always>your work is good, but you're unprofessional etc (hr shit)Anyway. I am currently on sick leave. I don't have a sick day limit or anything, it just goes on for however long the doctor approves, that's how it works here in Spain. I'm basically fine but will drag it on for another month or so if I can, in order to rest and fully recover.This job is a dead end, it will just pay the same amount forever while affordability gets worse. If they are not happy with me, they will remove me from the project and pay me to do no tasks for a while, probably about a year based on other people's experiences, then fire me. If they fire me I'll get a big bonus too, in Spain you get approx a month of tax free pay for each year you've been at the company (4 so far).What do I do for extra money? I have two ideas. Will elab in another comment.
>>109729183I have a BS in CS and never heard of anything like that.
>>109729473>Take another dev remote job. This would massively pay off if I'm taken off this client project at my company, and I think would still be manageable otherwise.>Rewrite my resume, really work on my interviewing skills and how I talk to interviewers, and aim for a well paid manager job.The latter was my first idea. I think I can do it. Managers are in demand and get hired for very good pay, and my fake experience should in principle be no different from the real experience of others getting those jobs.But lately I've been thinking about working two jobs more and more, for the following reasons:>My current job is kind of a financial asset that poses no risk if I don't quit, and either pays a half decent wage (insufficient in my opinion due to horrible affordability, but top 10% income here because its Spain) or a big bonus if they fire me. Quitting it would destroy that.>Income from two senior dev jobs would be higher. I have no savings due to not being very smart with money in the past, and I'd still quickly afford to own a home.However the downsides are:>Extra stress. I have childhood trauma and mental health issues, and take mental health more seriously than money. However I have techniques to control anxiety and not get stressed out, and I think I could handle it.>Conflicting meetings. I would have something to hide every day and that's just not comfy compared to coasting at a single job that pays very well, and potentially, eventually, being in the same zero risk situation that I currently have, but with actually good pay.
>>109729235Came to post basically this
>>109729513I forgot. I have another idea.>getting a tax free jobI could basically make twice as much by costing the same amount of money to my employer if there were no taxes. I could get on welfare on top of that.But I don't think those are very common.
>>109725142We did that even before AI was a thing.
>>109726985Enjoy getting blacked. If you start carrying a blade you can call yourself The Blacked Swordsman.
>>109728698I am doing that right now but I am also not American. Still a good idea to keep up with current tech, get certs and eventually start my masters degree. But I'm so tired and GERDed.
stone carver here. you are pathetic and gay. get a real job for a man.
>>109726985Just tell him you don't have ncaa football 2k26 so you'd have nothing to do
>>109730165https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGHe6g8WwEc
>tell AI to run a test script and debug any failures>it refuses to run the script and instead keeps trying to use some unrelated framework that is not applicable to this shit>keeps telling me to run some script to clean up some terminal instead of just making a new oneDid they implement a jeet patch today or something
>>109730229AI can be so smart yet so dumb at the same time.
>>109726985get yo bussy stretched playa
>>109730273Anon should probably lube himself and use a dildo beforehand.
>>109726953Yay, opportunity for my 2 cents. I did this as part time in uni, because I thought to myself "yay, I will have time to study overnight and get paid for sitting on ass". So basically yea, the night shifts still suck cause circadian rhytm is no joke, but first few shifts were cool. Thing is, its mostly staffed by real low life people, because surprise, this is unqualified and easy job. I was the only one who actually read the fire alarm manual, did the walks and didnt just sleep on sofa in meeting room 100m away from cameras and alarm panel because I was naive retard actually following my contract.And after some time, it starts to kind of get to you? You start being complacant, lazy, and it gives you no experience or stimulation. I left for lab job and I am glad. Its good job for boomers in retirement and some of them have cool stories tho.
>>109723864It is not about being a manager vs being an engineer.It is all about politics.Pretty much every job nowadays, specially the high paying ones, have absolutely nothing to do with how essential you are to the business.It is all about creating factions and friends that promote each other and protect each other.Productivity metrics can easily be fabricated if you have at least two brain cells.Pretty much every company I worked for had a gang of at least three senior/management roles engineers with dubious competency, but knew each other for years and protected one another.Now that I am creating my own company I see the exact same thing happening.At the height of my workforce this year ~10 software engineers, I had to deal with 2 seniors that created a faction to cover for each other while working multiple overseas jobs.I managed to spot it because I have a lot of engineering experience and the company is still pretty small, but shit like this must be endemic inside big corporations.I'd much rather work with a team of real engineers instead of coding agents, but dealing with office politics gets tiresome very fast.
>boss keeps trying to make it clear that i'm expected to learn how hydraulics and metal fabrication and linux and multi-phase power workNAW NIGGA I HAVE ENOUGH OF MY OWN PROBLEMS HAHA I'LL LEARN DUAL AND HALF SWORDING BEFORE I LEARN HOW RS-1553 WORKS
>>109730772Shut the fuck up furrfaggot.
>>109730840trade review's up for the military too. looking forward to being told my training and experience to date is all worthless despite having been a sysadmin on every bote and unit i've been at and my trade now supposedly just finally admitting that we're all just bad sysadmins drawn from secretaries
>>109730556That explains so much. I never thought about it that way. My senior was clearly completely cracked but the CTO worked with him for a decade prior and just let him do all the stupid stuff he wanted. No one ever got promoted or even know what their level was all because of them.
>there is not a career path in the reserves for my trade anymore>literally everyone who's not sea infantry gets spec pay except for us>at civvie work a bunch of engineers have suddenly quit to go to other places now that canuckistan is dumping money into Defence>get an unprompted "we might be getting raises soon hold fast my niggas (but dont hold your breath)" talkthey really hit my entire field with the Dragon Install into Lose combo
>>109723864>lmao at codetard luds not getting into management trackManagement is politics, politics runs everything. Do you want to butt heads with Karen every single day and lick her cunt and asshole during meetings? If not, then you don't get into management work. Management work is making the most insufferable nepo hires who got hired because they are the fellow caste member of new Pajeet CEO feel as happy as possible in hopes that they give some table scraps to you and your team. I'd love to rule, but I could never lick the assholes of these insufferable retards who run everything. They're the reason everything is broken and falling apart.
>>109730951I get the feeling that my management at civvie work is willing to push as far as they can reasonably and probably are pushing even a little harder than that behind the scenes, and I'm very thankful for that. For all I complain about having to actually get creative sometimes and that it shouldn't be required, I'm thankful that the people directly above me understand that and at least make it an opportunity rather than a trap.
>>109730951Hello ma'am I lick pusy during meetings thank you. I will be good manager for your asshole pls respond
I fear that having had to maintain a shitty vehicle just to get to work has inadvertently made me more equipped to do what my boss wants in that he wants the section to become more mechanically inclinedbut I have enough trouble with my own shit and do not want to have to maintain an unreliable piece of shit only to go to work to maintain more (as in number, not level) unreliable pieces of shit
>>109726696you... miscreant!
https://x.com/qualitylearnc/status/2095971160571961838
>>109731199you and the apple interview spammer really need to use a trip so people can filter you.you guys are worse than indians. you are publicly defecating in a general.spiritually brown retards
>>109731315Don't forget the fact that he posts as a gay faggot defending himself when he gets called out.
>>109731315you are mad because my life is unironically a total meme and I can say how it has all gone living out DOD nonsense and IT monkeying and so on you have fallen so far you've forgotten how to cry
>>109731315don't compare me to that homosexual freak
>>109731469hit this nigga with the naginata
>>109731359>>109731469you both behave like molested bpd womenstop spamminggo blog to your support groups or therapist
If job loss happens how fucked are you and for how long?
>>109732299According to my spreadsheet, I've got runway for 16 years or so
>>109732299Not fucked, could probably retire now if I wanted it just wouldn't be as comfy as I want yet
>>109723825tgif am i right fellas
>>109731896if i start blogposting here do you think i could get a twg bf/gf?
>>109724428Some of our projects are allowed to have LLM's in the stack, I used one to classify documents recently. But other projects are blocked from any AI tooling at all. We all have copilot pro subscriptions and access to semi-new models, but the credits are tightly limited so you cant vide code or run agents.>t. dev at UK branch of an insurance company
>>109733018fucking kill yourself if you watch this shit. I'm not referring to the content, but the single word subtitle diarrhea
https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/us-military-turns-off-ad-trackers-devices-amid-middle-east-targeting-reports-2026-09-04/Really makes me think
>>109733018>1st question"machine code" is binary instructions given to the CPU, assembly is the readable version of machine code, high level programming languages are swift (:D), python, cpp, actual languages you can program in because assembly is too difficult and tedious>2nd questionframeworks are just really big libraries that control parts of your program, libraries are packaged code other people made to perform a certain set of tasks (like SwiftUI is a framework because it completely manages the UI for your app, Collections would be a library because it gives you utilities like deques and heaps)>3rd questionparallelism is having multiple threads perform work, concurrency is using multiple threads perform work to achieve the same (or multiple) tasks. So parallelism can be a part of concurrency, but concurrency is not a part of parallelism? (after looking this one up I was close)>4th questionprocesses are kernel given abstractions for an application, each application is a process and in that process is contained it's own virtual memory space and multiple threads. threads are streams of instructions (code) that can switch between CPU cores and execute workhad to look up what a coroutine is, Swift calls them "Continuations" but it's another abstraction on top of threads that allow programs to switch tasks between threads without switching threads themselves (because switching threads can be expensive, while coroutines / continuations are cheaper).>5th questionsockets (im assuming he means websocket) is a server protocol that allows you to connect to an endpoint and stream information back and forth, API is an application programming interface, basically a set of coding tools someone else has developed to allow your application to connect to their application (you send one request, you get one response back) >6th questionno idea lol (after looking it up they're strategies to manage data inconsistencies in databases)
>>109733018>what's the difference between these barely related things?>explain in 10 seconds even though it takes multiple lectures to fully articulate each topicgreat interview, this is why we need infinity immigrants
>>109723825>that picSoon, both sides won't be needed and the engineer manager will be called ai-manager or he will have a farm in a rural town.
After 9h of work and 4h of commute, I admit, that no matter how much corpo-chaos-kool-aid I take, I actually was happier in the hospital.
>>109724428Euro at a legaltech. AI shilled everywhere in dev and in the legal side, 0 impact so far. We keep trying every meme ai tool and they're all very very useless. Very steep waste of time despite constant management breathing down our neck to find a use for AI.
>>109724928It's free, comes from credit handed from the providers.
>>109726461I would say that there are non-tangible advantages to things like competition and non-optimal play. Entertainment, too, has great value. Without it, the productive worker will never be as productive as he can be, or as creative as needed to achieve breakthroughs.So Apple created a bunch of expensive devices. Early on these devices were quite OK despite a few stupid idea, and it definitely contributed to positive advances overall in HCI despite how shitty apple slop is and how much of a ripoff they are.Oracle was just terrible at every stage though. But meta fits in the entertainment bin, and also participated in shaping social media. While its outcome has been disastrous, it pushed instant communication to the masses to its limit, which is a very valuable experiment. They also participated in large ways to true deep learning research in meaningful ways when it was more than just benchmaxxing for PR.Your point is correct, though, and one should instead point to where the money should have gone, and hasn't. Drug development, for example, which will surprise some.
>>109724574>impyling you're the master of your own thinking currentlyIf you were truly the master thinker, then you wouldn't have anything to worry about from AI. Thoughts and meaning just show up and you run with them as if they're yours.
>>109728696Tech workers back in the good old days were very dedicated to their work and were passionate about tech. This created a stigma that they were weird and nerdy and shit. Quirk chungus ebin zoomzooms, following tiktok trends, decided to call themselves autistic when they're merely profoundly retarded, cheated on all homeworks with chatgpt, and can't hello world their way out of a paperbag. "Who needs to know all that shit, the ai can do it and I am so good with the ai!!11" is their usual rally cry. Yes, it's for the pay.
>>109728730Literally my entire career so far has been like this lol.It's so fucking common it's sickening.
>>109734068Is this how bad zoomers are these days with even the most basic concepts? Yikes.
>>109724280I always read it as 'tech workers general'
>>109735620In other words, >>109724286
>>109735605What coherent answers on point aren't enough? Let me guess, you need more.
I watched Office Space last night and it's a shit movie. I mean yeah it's mildly funny since they got the office stuff accurately and it's relevant today but holy fuck there was no plot and Jennifer Aniston was a waste. KoTH is still pretty good but man I'd give Office Space a straight 4/10. dunno why it turned into such a cult classic, seems like the type of movie people watch clips and just meme those lines rather than actually watch the whole thing.
>>109735682No, I don't need more, I've seen quite enough. We'll contact you with the next steps within 2 weeks.
>>109735693I look forward to hearing from you soon. Just not the weekend. That's my datacentre terrorism time.
Let's stop the negativity for a bit and actually think. What can a nigga do if he wants to leave tech but doesn't know what to pivot to? What resources or things someone should learn trying to live an alternate lifestyle outside corpo?
>>109735707Don't call us, we'll call you.
>>109735721There's really not much outside starting your own tech adjacent business, like digital transformation consulting or somesuch. Everything requires degrees and certifications and years of exp nowadays.
>>109735605>>109735693those are correct answers though. also the post is close to the 2k character limit. if this was an actual interview you would ask follow ups if you cared, and i'm sure the answers would be longer anyways.
>>109735766Very excite.
>>109735793Kek. Is this unironically what zoomers believe?
>>109735890what was the last time you interviewed
>at work>non-engineering role, but engineering related>co-worker posts a script to automate some of the workflow>be me, check code>lots of edge cases looked over>add my fixes>the co-worker messages me>"hey it would've been cool if you messaged me first before adding your fixes, but no hard feelings."What did I do wrong?
I can't wait for the world to go down in flames because arrogant managers replaced competent people with AI
>>109734068holy shit, you're actually retarded
>>109736083>What did I do wrong?you didn't mind your business
what car do you drive?
>>109736102The script would've introduced a lot of problems with biasing that would've been overlooked had it been used.
>>109736098all correct answers btw
>>109736132Basically, a bunch of hardcoded slop that he didn't think to change into variables.
>>1097360722 years ago
>>109727524>what provides for the better pivot?you should first define what "better" means here. more money? easier job? good tech experience for your CV?I'm not a dev, so take my opinion with a ton of salt, but I'd guess the analytics one will give you far more general experience while the semi one is the pidgeon hole one that might or might not lead to something good.but I have no idea if this is true. maybe you should ask >>>/g/dpt, though consider that they are mostly students... there is also >>>/sci/stem, though from what I've seen, they are even more clueless than people ITT.>>109728730>She played the company politics game good enoughby driving the good workers away? that's kinda dumb>got praise from CEO directly in front of whole company I was easy target for prissy middleyou could have used that for your advantage, I guess
>>109736083>coworker directly states his complaint>what did I do wrong
>>109736156Yeah, but I bet he can recite textbook definitions of concepts like no tomorrow.
>>109736083You made him look stupid and thereby caused friction with him.t. watched anime
>>109736156So I hurt his pride.
>>109736230lol, and then they come here to cry about how politics are ruining the company. AI could never write something this funny. King shit.
>reviewing a PR>CI flagged 3 bugs with 95% confidence>completely ignored>merged
>>109736327And yes I checked myself: at least 2 were real bugs that had a 100% repro rate and broke something (non-vital, but still).
Could be worse, my coworker slammed my work after he signed off on it and started acting like he didn't okay it in front of a team meeting. I'll fucking kick this dude's ass.
What do you do if a job sets you up to fail? I think it's a little late for me as I'll probably get canned but I want to prevent this from happening next time. Should I just flag to my boss early that "yo the stuff you ask me is unreasonable and I don't really like how you okay shit and then near release pop a random new requirement out of nowhere stating that THIS IS A HUGE SHOWSTOPPER where it was never flagged.
>>109736729No, you have to maintain good relationships with your boss's boss and use that when your boss is making a move against you.
>>109736859My problem right now is that my boss boss is the one that does it and my boss is a COCKSUCKER and just pushes the work down and just uses me as a scapegoat if shit doesn't work. And then HIS boss boss boss is literally a fucking ghost. Literally, I only see him in like the quarterlies but he never shows up for the work events and never ever shows up in the office even though his office is literally right next to where we're sitting.
>>109736884This happens. If you detect these dynamics you must immediately leave, there is no fixing this, ever.
How can I get my Indian colleagues to talk and be useful? Most of them are IC3, but they just "listen" when we go over projects. They never take initiative and show interest in what we're doing. Never ask questions or try to lead. Do I literally have to just make jiras and assign it to them?
>>109737176Impossible. They literally have too low IQ for independent thought on the whole. And the very few who do have high enough IQ are dragged down by class loyalty and refuse to move aside their class.
>>109737176its even better when its both locals and indians.I fucking hate lazy idiots who complain about not being able to do their jobs while doing nothing to improve it. And the incompetent sr mgmt that allows it to occur, the middle mgmt for going along with it and trying to mitigate things while enabling sr mgmts exploitation and abuse.
>>109737176>They never take initiative and show interest in what we're doing. Never ask questions or try to lead.Why would they? Not even indian or anything but I'm burnt as shit and every project is fucking retarded so why should I bother even putting effort? You want X even though it's stupid as fuck? Have it.
>>109737258>why would they? [weakminded faggot unconstructive blogging]Thanks for the contribution
>>109737296Do you really care about the work that your company is putting out? Does it change society for the better? Not really. Just cash your paycheck and get out of there.
>>109737258To be fair to that anon I had assumed we ignore these principles. Even when everything is kinda shitty, people who join projects who aren't burnt out will try to make things better for their own sanity if nothing else. Poos can't do that much.But this is ultimately true, people have no incentive to propose extra work on themselves if it won't bring anything for them (including exposure to interesting tech or progress on cool projects).
>>109737300No but I don't express it in such an incredibly gay way
>>109727519I thought this general became a thing in like 2023ah, I see it was summer of 2022https://desuarchive.org/g/search/subject/tech%20workers%20general/order/asc/
>>109737311I just don't get his complaint nor his corpobootlicking. Why would anyone want to put more effort into something when there's no benefit? Like what is he expecting, the jeets to cradle his balls?
>>109737258these are people barely 5-6 years into their career, with resumes showing how they've led highly complex technology projects and then that leadership is nowhere to be found after hiring.I'm 25 years into my career and I have my fuck it all days, but still show up cause I find the technology and problems compelling. Sick and tired of working with paycheck collectors who are waiting for the rest of us to automate their job away.
>>109732299I have about 10 years of expenses saved
>>109737339Spoiler: jeets lie on their resumes
>>109735721I applied to drive the train in my city. I might regret it xus there is no toilet anywhere
>>109737339>it's a gen x trying to be the next elon muskoh boy jesus christ
>>109737334My experience is it extends beyond this. For example if the task is "implement X" the indians will roll around doing nothing and complain (but only when faced with 2 months of no production) that he doesn't understand the query. Never will he ask, never will he look things up.Whites will come up with a solution and implement X without issues even if they need to gather information by finding the docs or tracking down the person in the team who is knowledgeable to unblock them.Furthermore, if you're doing more than another SaaS trash project, white people will inherently be driven to do more or to have a more structural view of the entire project and to propose ways to solve problems (a step beyond finding solutions to problems provided to them), a skill also alien to indians. But it's not clear if this applies in the anon's complaint.
>>109737334What's it like working in a job where you have no pain points worth automating?
>>109737436anon here, my experience is that they are all out ideas and tried nothing. for example with install work that has work instructions and they get an error. They will wait until I wake up to tell me they got an error. No searching docs or source control, just "got error". Another example is when being assigned to projects with nebulous requirements like a proof of concept. "We deployed the servers like you requested". Check console and each instances has 128 GB of ram and 32 CPUs. "Do you think you sized this right for the scope of a POC?" Crickets. "What are the software requirements?" More silence.It's no actual thought process. Just "ticket done" and then reporting to their manager their win. I don't expect them to cradle or lick my balls, I just want to relate to them like actual human beings and get work done. I've tried learning about their culture, relating to them outside of work stuff, just need real actual advice. I've actually had a few great tech people who genuinely were awesome to work with and enjoyed working together with us. They never last cause they always move on to better things.
Don't make this a race thing when we all know that whites are the biggest grifters to ever exist. >t. chinese
>>109737622>peak grifter accusing the only productive people on the planet of being grifterslmao
>>109737594>I've tried learning about their culture, relating to them outside of work stuff, just need real actual advice.Gen X people are a different being huh.
>>109737633>only productive people on the planetThis shit cringe if you're not being ironic.
>>109737622how does it feel working a 9-9-6 work schedule and making less than anyone in Russia chink?
>>109737634>hurr durr gen xwho hurt you?
>>109737594They likely leave because of this work environment, i.e. you're not the only one who has problems with them. But yeah, that seems to be what I expected. My judgement is there is nothing to do here. They are unfixable, they are literally too dumb for more.
>>109737643Show me what chinks have contributed to tech.You can't, it's pure plagiarism and lies.
>>109737649Salaries in Hong Kong / Shenzen / Shanghai are very high these days
>>109737176if you try to get them to show interest and ask questions they will only do so superficiallyThen you're stuck answering 100 nonsensical questions (most of which are outright category errors) every meeting
>>109737697Hong Kong is not China and it's still low compared to COL. $66k/year is hardly a high salary. It's low even by east europe standards yet it's the higher band in Shanghai.
Is it eurohours? I swear euro /twg/ is much weirder than american /twg/
>>109737706You would be a pilot or a surgeon in china for that kind of pay.
>>109737714It's about to be bedtime for the eurochads
>>109737706Anon, I regret to inform you but there are chinks n Hong Kong>66k/year is low even by east europe standardsWhat? The average yearly salary in Slovakia is 22k, in Poland it's 30k
>>109737706>It's low even by east europe standardsIn serbia average salary is 1000 eur/month gross... So 12k eur/year...
>>109737749Of course there are chinks in Hong Kong. But it's still a vastly different country.You can't compare "average salary". Janitors never earn even remotely as much as a junior dev in a startup.
>>109737780The upper normal band for software devs in serbia is $46k/year. The TC averages $92300/year at google.
>>109737780That explains more to the reason why so many serbs joined the russians for their war with 12k euro a month salaries.
>>109735721you should just kill yourself.
>>109737798I heavily doubt that last number
>>109737650the old hippie faggot gen xers that flooded my country with niggers
>>109737893That's your elites mates, unless you want to claim responsibility for your country's handling of covid?
>>109737893>waahhh theres niggersimporting niggers to do whitey's work is the most white tradition possible
>>109736083literally this >>109736215he had a sense of who he was and who you are. Normal neurotypical people usually do this sort of "sizing up" from the get go. he saw himself above you because he "knew how to code" and when you corrected him (with best intentions) you opened up the insecurity of him questioning if he was actually smarter than you, smarter than others at all, if that mask he is wearing is actually a facade he forces himself to wear out of necessity or pride yada yadathe little meltdown he had didn't have anything to do with you, it just had to do with himselfneurotypicals created these social hierarchies some few hundred thousands years ago (which were reinforced at first agricultural civilization) and they did it for a good reason of optimizationbut things evolved slower back then and people were dumber so essentially these social hierarchies had some merit back then as there was always "the smartest" in the tribe or "the strongest"....now you are riding high and then fall down the next second neurodivergents actually love people and what they do and don't do it for social status so they don't realize they won at a game other normie losers are trying soo hard to barely pass
I've lowkey pregrieved the loss of my career. No way there's more than 1 year runway to this.
>>109728660>My college also requires me to do an internshipAre you getting paid?
>>109737663nta but american "tech" (aka social networks, cryptocurrencies, """AI""", ...) itself is the scam, and you are retarded if you think otherwise
>>109738058No argument I see.
>>109738058Is this a cope unique to chink culture?
>>109738058china stwongchina bigyou have awaken da westing dwagon -.-
>>109738015buy an ad sam
>>109727793saw the writing on the wall 2 years ago from seeing ais growth from 2020 to 2024. Been working at costco doing some random low labor task for a few hours early in the morning, became the go to guy for busier tasks, so wont get laid off ever. have benefits, only a 10min drive with 0 traffic or cars on the way there. Chill in my car for over a hour time thieving but again, have a great rep with the managers so they just look the other way. Obviously not making piles of cash but still make enough to live comfy by myself in a basement apartment. Have been fast forwarding time by doing lots of fun hobbies the past few months with my loads of free time.
>>109737920The writing on the wall was way before COVID.
This jeeta’s name is gay lmao
>>109736093does "arrogant managers" mean a certain religious / ethnic group and "AI" brown people?
>>109739086thank you for showing us completely asinine, 9 paragraph long AI spam from indians on linkedin again anon. we're all excited to see more of these posts in every thread. keep us posted!
>>109736083i had some dumbshit scripts to automate myself out of a job and if someone changed them i'd want a changelog tooeither they broke something, or senpai is about to teach me that good shit and we bout to have some good feelings and butt pleasure
>>109736108Emmo Nomado
>>109736083Unless there are official protocols that you didn't follow, you did nothing wrong. He's just being an insecure asshole.
>>109735721personally im looking at either going back to school to be a chocolatier or repairing people's shit-ass bikes. but both were childhood passions and i would gladly hogtie a client and execute him with a piledriver for asking for the Wrong Thing instead of simply taking his money to do the bad thing for a bad nigga though so idk maybe finally getting a proper mariner's ticket is better
how the fuck did we get to the point where retards think the tech industry isn't a big fucking scam? LMAOOOOOOOOOO>>109738075>>109738120>>109738375HAHAHAHAHAHAH you fell for the marketing. I bet you retards paid for a degree too kekcope some more, dumbasses
>>109739592i was almost mad enough to respond but im mad for different enough reasons that engaging your trolling for fun wouldn't make enough sense for either of us to carry it on properly for any real catharsis
>>109739619>trollinghave people really been brainwashed so throughly?how old are you? just give me a range.everyone has known for decades that this industry sells snake oil, and as long as people pay (and people pay a lot), everyone will keep doing it.if you think this is a serious industry... anon, I'm sorry, but at some point you will suffer a lot for being unable to realize that you too fell for a scam.
>>109739710>this industry sells snake oil, and as long as people pay (and people pay a lot), everyone will keep doing it.The west has been sustained on "service industry" for 50 fucking years and everyone has been ringing alarm bells for 49. None of this is news.
>>109739710Every industry is snake oil if you think about it. People are selling brands, not results.
>>109739724yet the current political leaders of the US are isolationists who think it's time to reindustrialize the country and devalue the dollar to fight china. oddly, not even biden reverse course on that. how come?this paper was written by Stephen Miran, Trumps advisor:https://www.hudsonbaycapital.com/documents/FG/hudsonbay/research/638199_A_Users_Guide_to_Restructuring_the_Global_Trading_System.pdf>>109739850some people and companies produce things that other people actually need. NEED is the key word here, btw.
>>109739870>yet the current political leaders blah blah blahWe're mercenaries, not heartless. Our problems are much more complex. Paltry things like "emotions" and "job satisfaction" are involved.
>>109739978Where does he think that income is gonna come from
>have to beg for time of from one job for another>"Surely the military can recognize that you're basically working for the government as a civvie and don't need any time off.">"Surely the civilian job can recognize that you're basically working for their client as a contractor and don't need any time off."give me a fucking digikey account
We need a new thread.>>109739978>About this account>Ace @Acemation_>Account based in>South Asia
>>109740070>We need a new thread.make a ticket
>>109740102>>109740102>>109740102
>>109740085>make a ticket
