>>109738292
I love GNU/Linux so much <3 <3 best OS ever because it allows me to do what i want

https://youtu.be/TknHMtgCrZY

Interesting video. I can see why people don't like DHH when he speaks like this

What's the best gooner linux picture viewer replacement for Honeyview on windows? I need bookmarks, a minimal interface, fit image to window and customizable controls.

pls respond

>>109738292
just got filtered by gentoo, can i play games on devuan?

>>109738566
You can install Steam and Wine and whatever launchers or emulators, etc, you want on any distro, even Gentoo if you don't get filtered.

There is nothing special about any particular distro that makes it better or worse for gaming. The only thing that really matters is the Linux kernel and graphics drivers.

>>109738517
It may be worth trying Honeyview through Wine. I saw a single review from one guy and he said it worked great.
If not, of your requirements, the following apps might satisfy some of your requirements. I don't know since I'm not a gooner, so if my answers are bad an actual gooner will probably correct me later.
XnViewMP supports bookmarks, but definitely DOES NOT have a minimal interface, but if memory serves it does have fit image to window and customizable controls.
Nomacs has no bookmarks, but more minimal UI than XnViewMP, and probably satisfies the rest of your requirements.

>>109738496
i mean he's a little retarded but the reason why people don't like him is trannies spreading slander about him all the time. there's websites with 100 pages worth of text claiming how he's basically hitler 2.0, all because he's not willing to bend to the tranny agenda. i don't know a single reasonable argument why pouring money into good FOSS projects is le bad suddenly. it's just derangement

>>109738647
I did think he made some good points to be honest despite him clearly being a fucking retard and maybe Omarchy being a bit of a grift (he describes it as "a pyramid").

Like, for example, the uncomfortable truth that "dirty money" can still accomplish good things. If you spend that supposedly poisoned money on parks or libraries or hospitals, etc, regardless of the source it came from (could be good or bad) it's still being used for the collective good.

>>109738636
>even Gentoo if you don't get filtered
What's that supposed to mean?
You can install anything on any Linux distro, if you know how to.
Yes, you can install APT on Gentoo and transition into Ubuntu if you feel like it, I wouldn't recommend that though.

>>109738700
The software will run on anything to a certain extent is what I mean. But yes, probably not a good idea to take that idea to the extreme of installing different package managers on your distro. If you're doing that then you'd likely be better served by a distro box container running whatever the supported distro is.

>>109738517
went through this a couple of months back
>Mcomix3
>open comic
>Honeyview on Lutris/Wine

these are your options

>>109738496
>I can see why people don't like DHH when he speaks like this
I don't understand. Listening to the whole interview, he just seems like someone who has his principles and everything else is just whatever promotes his principles.

He's looking at this like a business, not just an engineering project. I think that's a good thing in the FOSS world. Too many engineers and not enough business sense.

>>109738681
>the uncomfortable truth that "dirty money" can still accomplish good things
absolutely, i mean i don't think there's any nefarious goals behind this foundation or funding, it's just a couple of rich guys trying to make themselves look good by giving money to the relevant thing of the month. it's basically pocket change to them but vaxry for example is gonna have years of peace not having to worry about funding work on his compositor, it's a massive win for linux as a whole.

also i'm watching the whole podcast, dhh is clearly coked up or on some other type of drug lmao he just doesn't ever shut up

I've been using rsync for over 10 years out of habit is it still the back up tool of choice for Linux.

>>109739284
Rsync's -e (I think) parameter for integration for SSH ended up making it such tremendous time saver for me when it came to automation.

just finished upgrading my PC, gonna make the move from Mint to CachyOS pretty soon
anything I should know before going in? Mint was my first foray into Linux, always used W10 before that

>>109739476
don't be a retard and download random bullshit off of the AUR

>>109739627
I downloaded RazerGenie from the AUR using shelly so I can change my mouse DPI but I can't figure out how to actually launch the fucking program

>>109738636
>>109738566
gaming on Linux sucks most of the time...
and it sucks when you get the shit running too

emulators run well btw

>>109740193
It probably just has a desktop entry or executable that starts the gui program.

However, you actually probably want to uninstall that and instead install polychromatic.
Install it through shelly, it should pull a few dependencies including openrazer, then add yourself to the openrazer group by running `sudo gpasswd -a $USER openrazer` and reboot.

See https://polychromatic.app/download/arch/

>>109739284
Borg is the best backup tool, not sure if there's even any argument about this.

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>>109738566
The distro does not make a difference any more.

I set up a headless ubuntu server to run plex years ago and forgot everything I knew and I'm a bit overwhelmed trying to relearn. I'm trying to use pscp to copy an entire directory recursively from Windows to said Ubuntu server's plex directory. If I'm understanding this correctly, I should be using the following:

pscp -r "Driveletter:\folder\other folder\" Username@machineIP:/path/to/plexmount/

I'm using quotations since there are spaces in the Windows folder name. Does this look right, or have I missed/misunderstood/fucked something up?

>>109740318
>a desktop entry or executable that starts the gui program
I can't find any trace of it on the computer at all
did I do me a virus already?

>>109740635
`pacman -Ql pkgname` will list all the files installed by a package.
Try `pacman -Ql razergenie | grep desktop` or `pacman -Ql razergenie | grep bin` to find what it may be called.

This seems silly though, as it's certainly just going to be called something with genie in the name, if it's not showing up in your launcher that's odd, but perhaps it hasn't loaded new entries somehow.

>>109740640
maybe it didn't actually install it then
shelly just kinda closed out during the install process, and also offers to download it again when I search for it in aur
so maybe shelly crashed before it could actually install anything?

>>109740640
>>109740661
this is where it stops working
>PKGBuild libopenrazer requires source-signing key
>*a bunch of random characters*
>Import it using 'shelly keyring recv -user'?
whether I hit yes or no, shelly just closes out
what gives?

>>109740822
Rather than telling you how to fix this (I don't know how with Shelly, I don't use it, and when I have it's been with its cli tool), can you just try polychromatic instead, which seems to be the superior linux razer equipment software anyway.

>>109740856
that worked thanks
should I be worried about the failed razergenie install leaving some kind of bloat?

>>109738746
>Honeyview on Lutris/Wine
Works surprisingly well. I ran my usual portable collection of windows programs and most of them work, even good old webm4retards.

>>109740900
No, if it fails to install then nothing should have been installed. I believe Shelly even uninstalls packages required for build if it fails.

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Africa finally got their ganoo moment.

I almost ran this.

rsync --dry-run -av --delete --exclude="lost+found "Archive/ Backup/

>"lost+found "Archive/
I'm actually going to vomit.

"I'm looking at getting back into linux, I used Ubuntu/Redhat for PhD, but swapped back to windows because no one was going to proof read my thesis overwise and i wasn't goping to write in on web office.

I'm thinking of going the Arch route, if just for the learning experience, I'm sure installing it will teach me a bit but also the maintaining & fixing shit i break. It's not going to be my main work machine so it doesn't always need to just work.

I'm looking at picking up a laptop as only have my desktop at the moment. probably a used Thinkpad for a meme but really struggling to find affordbale AMD models.

Am i going to have that much of a worse time with 11th/12th (likely) intel ? Ive been looking at T14/T14s/P14s as they seem to be ok affordability wise. Ryzen laptops, particularly R7 are super thin on the ground.

had really strange problems with audio and videos in the browser and whatnot. looks like wireplumber 0.5.17 is massively fucked. installed 0.5.17.r3.g7c3bf21-1 from git and everything is fine now.

>>109741514
Intel's fine, at least better than on windows iirc the scheduler actually works well enough.

>>109741514
If they accept anything else than a pdf document generated from LateX your PhD is worthless anyway

>>109741651
Interdisciplinary research can be shitshow, particularly towards the translational end.

Good supervisory teams will push you to learn skills they don't have. But at the final hurdle technology gets flattened out to lowest common denominator. If you think your medical prof who's MD was written on a typewriter with hand drawn graphs is giving you meaningful feedback on your LaTeX manuscript your shit out of luck.

There are still so many people finishing their PhD with "ok" excel skills which is super concerning. Try to push them to learn just a little python/R but they flat out refuse.

It's not if you did/didn't write in LaTeX, it's if you couldn't

>>109738681
>Like, for example, the uncomfortable truth that "dirty money" can still accomplish good things. If you spend that supposedly poisoned money on parks or libraries or hospitals, etc, regardless of the source it came from (could be good or bad) it's still being used for the collective good.
Something that got on my nerves is that I use arch because it's rolling, minimal and SUPPOSEDLY apolitical (these 3 are a must), but they refused his money because it's dirty money, even though he implied in the interview that therewere no strings attached lmao. Really fucking disappointed in the arch team

How would I go about debugging something going on with i3wm?
It doesn't happen when I freshly booted up the PC but sometime it may or may not happen. Right now, it did and I can force it.
So, when I open an application and put it on full screen, the display might blank out for a second. Same happens when I exit the full screen, or am just switching out of/into the full screen software.
Happens with mpv and games.
Doesn't happen when I F11 on Firefox, however.
I tried tail -f on both ~/.share/local/xorg/Xorg.log.0 and /var/log/Xorg.log.0, both don't update the file when it happens.
Anything else I could look at to get rid of it?

>>109738517
gwenview?

>>109738636
The only difference would be distros that use musl instead of glibc which is only like 2 or 3 distros.

>>109741359
Nothing would've happened because of --dry-run
But what's supposed to be the issue? the lost+found folder is an ext4 thing.

>>109742163
Running the program from the terminal might report whatever the issue is but it sounds like an issue with whatever compositor you're using.

>>109738517
https://github.com/ififfy/flipflip

>>109742190
Even then you can just install Flatpak or distrobox, etc, and run stuff through that.
Although, I think proprietary NVIDIA drivers don't work well on Musl libc distros.

>>109742008
i think arch refused the money because they're afraid of tranny backlash. i'm really getting sick of those cunts

How do i make my computer shut itself down at 22:00 exactly, every day? I don't want my kid up late.
t. uses fedora workstation

>>109742550
Create a systemd service that runs "shutdown now", then create a systemd timer that runs said service every day at 22:00, then run "sudo systemctl daemon-reload" and then "sudo systemctl enable --now whatever-you-named-the-file.timer

>>109742580
ty!

>>109742580
>>109742550
There's already a systemd-poweroff.service
You only have to create systemd-poweroff.timer, set the time and enable the timer

>>109742259
Flatpak snap distrobox etc have performance overhead compared to running steam/wine natively.
And yeah nvidia proprietary drivers dont work on musl but i dont know if thats because of the driver itself or just because of userspace since all the userspace are glibc binaries (i'm guessing its the latter)

>>109742550
Adding a cron job to the crontab would be the easiest and simple solution but a systemd timer is probably better.

>>109742695
>Flatpak snap distrobox etc have performance overhead compared to running steam/wine natively.
Flatpak doesn't from my experience. I assume Snap also doesn't considering almost half the Ubuntu users use the Snap package instead of the debian package.

Having multiple package managers on a system is retarded. I just want to use the native package manager for everything, regardless who created the application.

>>109742729
I've noticed steam is slower when i use it through flatpak.

>>109742910
Not really because they do totally different things.
>regardless who created the application
Has absolutely nothing to do with it.

>>109742910
>I just want to use the native package manager for everything
so do i, but we live in an imperfect world and as such imperfect solutions are sometimes required

>>109742934
>>109742965
Developers and maintainers, of open source or commercial apps (and yes, I have proprietary apps on my system) are just too lazy to deal with native packages. That's all. This is not a technical problem. You'd think in this LLM slop era there would be less of an excuse to dodge this but here we are.
As a user I want to:
Don't break my system
Add a package
Remove a package
Search packages
Install a package source (if available)
Easily build my own package
The fact that we've accepted a story that you need 5 different ways to do this on a popular Linux distro really speaks to the spinelessness of the user base.
Next they'll tell me I need Rust to do all this securely.
I'm fed up.

if you're just after as many packages in one manager as possible is there a reason to not choose nix and move on with life

>>109743067
Anon there are infinite native packages. Even discounting how easy it is to come up with shitty new package managers, every release of every distro is a different OS with different packaging semantics and a different ABI. Nobody should try to keep up with that.

>>109743067
you do realize that you can become a package maintainer yourself right? if you want something packaged for a given distro then go through the process and just do it yourself. if it's so easy you should have no problems creating hundreds of high quality packages on your own.
also if you're not satisfied with a given distro's package ecosystem then you should apply for a refund and get your money back kek

>>109743100
But some yet people do a fine job at it. Is it a good idea to build native packages for the top handful of systems out there? Sure. Do you have to run out and include immediate support for every obscure distro that was just weekend vibe coded and pushed to GitHub on Tuesday? Probably not.
I've put my foot down and I'm going native only one of of my systems and see how far I can go.

>>109743067
>Developers and maintainers too lazy to deal with native packages. That's all. This is not a technical problem.
It literally is a technical problem because a "native" package manager is not a tool that is suited for arbitrary software installs. It exists strictly as a way to manage system-critical packages, not your fucking web browser, music player or a video game. The fact that distros added in a bunch of unnecessary packages into their repos is the real problem here.

Unless you're on something like NixOS, you will always need multiple package managers. One for your OS, and one for your user apps. It's up to you to decide which package format you personally want:
>Flatpak
>Appimage
>Runimage
>Nix packages
>brew packages
>distrobox containerized packages

You need to realize that there is no such thing as a "native" package. "Native" is a completely arbitrary term that means nothing. At best you could say that distrobox and maybe flatpak aren't native.
The issue you have is completely made up and nonsensical.

>>109743255
>It literally is a technical problem because a "native" package manager is not a tool that is suited for arbitrary software installs. It exists strictly as a way to manage system-critical packages, not your fucking web browser, music player or a video game
Extremely based.

>>109743212
>But some yet people do a fine job at it. Is it a good idea to build native packages for the top handful of systems out there? Sure.
It's actually a good amount of work to become a packager for even one 1st tier distro let alone all of them. I applaud the autism of people who do it, but they're actually a tiny minority.

>>109743255
>Flatpak
>Appimage
>Runimage
>Nix packages
>brew packages
>distrobox containerized packages
I refuse to use any of those. I'm using .deb only. I'm on Ubuntu 26.04. I've already purged Snap and set blocks so it can't sneak back in. I'm going to see how long I can live without anything else.
I sound deranged because I was once sane but I lived too long. This fucking world.

>>109743100
>Nobody should try to keep up with that.
What are you talking about? if the person doing the packaging of a package has issues building the package for their distro then that has nothing to do with upstream.

>>109743579
They're saying upstream should be responsible for packaging.

I'm thinking about ditching windows
Last time i tried was like 12 years ago but it was such a hassle to get games running, i've heard things have improved though
what distro should i get?

>>109743320
>I'm using .deb only
Well then you're not using real app packages. .deb is specifically there for system packages only. User apps being distributed as deb files/packages is a retarded, dysfunctional way of app distribution.
>I'm going to see how long I can live without anything else.
You can live without proper app management as long as you want. When it comes to open source software, nobody can force you to follow correct standards.

>>109743916
Proton and GE-Proton (along with umu-launcher) have developed so far that a vast majority of the time a game should just werk when ran with them.
Bazzite if you don't want any hassle, CachyOS if you want more freedom with slight more maintenance.

>>109738517
MComix3 (h/t >>109738746)
Viewnior
NoMacs

>>109743170
Very much this. When I primarily used Ubuntu and derivatives, I eventually became a package janny. Same thing happened after I moved over to Fedora and RHEL-compatible distros. On that note, RPM packaging is absurdly easy to pick up.

>>109743255
>Unless you're on something like NixOS, you will always need multiple package managers.
Not really. Arch, gentoo, void and both alpine(if you dont need anything proprietary) and fedora to an extent can get away with not needing multiple package managers. You can probably get away with it on debian as well since almost everything gets distributed with a .deb or has their own debian repo.
>Native" is a completely arbitrary term that means nothing.
Everyone knows that native package manager refers to the package manager that comes with the distro.
Also appimages aren't really supposed to be a package manager its just a way to distribute binaries the same way you would distribute an exe. Not much different to distributing a prebuilt golang or rust binary (or even python).

>>109743959
>slight more maintenance.
What do you mean with maintenance?

>>109744005
Just cleaning up orphan files, package cache, systemd journal files, updating mirrors. More then easy enough to deal with (plus you can make slightly long commands tiny with aliases.)

>>109743916
Fedora kde or mint.

Thoughts on this partition layout?
>primary partition 25% of capacity ext4 /
>primary partition 70% of capacity ext4 /home
>primary partition 5% of capacity linux-swap
I haven't changed how I install Linux since 2007 but now some distro do "swapfiles" on root which is fucking wacky.
I think merged /usr/ is cringe but since I never bothered to remount /usr/ to a different partition it didn't matter anyway.

>>109744183
I've always used swapfiles

>>109744183
Just use btrfs and its subvolumes as separate mount points for / and /home

>>109744183
don't know how large your drive is but that's probably much capacity for root. all you need is 50G for a normal system, ~80-100 to be extra safe; swap 1x of system ram, 2x if you want to suspend to disk.
or you can just use btrfs subvolumes like the other anon said (or lvm).

>>109744183
>percentages
idk about percentages but I'd do something like 20 to 30 GB root filesystem and leave the rest of the drive for a generic use partition.
What goes for swap, having a swap partition is nice but it's also completely optional. Theoretically there's less overhead with a partition VS file.
>now some distro do "swapfiles" on root
>now
It has always been a thing.
>>109743320
AppImages are just trees packaged in a file, if you hate AppImages you can always extract one under /opt for example.

>>109743997
There is a difference between
>can get away with not needing multiple package managers.
and
>using "native" package managers for everything is a good idea.

>Everyone knows that native package manager refers to the package manager that comes with the distro.
No, not everyone agrees on what a "native package manager is". By your definition Flatpak is the native package manager of Fedora, Zorin, Mint, CachyOS and SteamOS, while Snap is a native package manager of Ubuntu. The anon I was replying to clearly doesn't consider Snap a native package manager nor does he consider Snaps and Flatpaks native packages.
The whole discussion about what a "native package manager" is or what a "native package" is is completely retarded and pointless. Every sperg out there has his own definition of what "native" means.

>appimages aren't really supposed to be a package manager
It's a package format that suits app distribution far better than root-level package managers like apt, dnf, pacman, rpm-ostree, zypper, etc. There is nothing stopping people from making a repo and a package manager for appimage packages (in fact, several exist).
The whole discussion wasn't strictly about package managers, but packages and their distribution as a whole.

>>109744183
Mostly obsolete unless you're a rabid distro hopper. Have one big xfs or btrfs for maximum reflink abuse. Use zram instead of physical swap and allocate a swap file as needed.

>installed chrome through the AUR instead of the flatpak
Am I retarded?
I'm reading the pkgbuild every update but I still feel kind of retarded

>>109744183
You don't need more than 50GB for / and you can get away with 30GB if you really wanted to
The rule of swap is double your RAM if you want hibernation otherwise you probably can get away with something like 2gb or 4gb.
I think merging /bin /sbin into /usr/bin was dumb but merging /lib and /usr/lib is more understandable.

>>109744735
>Am I retarded?
Yes.

>>109744414
>using "native" package managers for everything is a good idea.
There's nothing wrong with using native package managers for everything.
>No, not everyone agrees on what a "native package manager is". By your definition Flatpak is the native package manager of Fedora, Zorin, Mint, CachyOS and SteamOS, while Snap is a native package manager of Ubuntu.
You are more than aware that is not what my definition of a native package manager was and it obviously refers to apt pacman dnf etc and is the same definition that everyone uses.

>>109744801
Why?

>>109744735
Both the AUR and flatpak are using the same upstream binary for chrome so it doesn't really matter but chrome probably works better when installed through the AUR.

>>109744374
/opt is probably not the best place since it needs root access. Probably something like ~/.local/opt would be better unless its a mutli user system.

>>109744805
>There's nothing wrong with using native package managers for everything.
>never had a dependency problem in his llife

>>109744735
For me?
Its brave origin appimage
t. tard maxxin

Is zswap actually better than zram? I use cachyos so by default it is configured with zram at the same memory pool of physical memory, I have 32GB of RAM on my system so a 32GB zram pool.
I have read on various blogs that zswap is better than zram if you are constantly swaping, I have never seen my system use more than 20GB of physical memory at any giving time so I don't know if changing to zswap would benefit me.

>>109744978
It doesn't matter unless you are doing something taxing. I would actually turn zram completely off too. Only enable them if you need something like that.

>>109745002
Nta but turning any type of swap completely off is a bad idea, the kernel itself always uses swap even if you have a gazillion GBs of physical memory.

>>109743952
>Well then you're not using real app packages. .deb is specifically there for system packages only. User apps being distributed as deb files/packages is a retarded, dysfunctional way of app distribution.
Then what were oldfags using for software management before flatpak and appimage became more ubiquitous, wise guy?

>>109745015
>the kernel itself needs swap for stability
Fixed, but yes, not having any swap is a bad idea.

I wish dolphin was gpu accelerated.

>>109745097
Wdym? It is.

>>109744978
>zswap is better than zram if you are constantly swaping
Most people aren't constantly swapping, and zswap has the quirk of requiring physical swap. zswap is very much IBM's baby. It even has support for POWER's 842 hardware accelerated compression. There are enterprise workloads which swap regularly and benefit greatly from zswap adding a 3rd tier to the VM system before the physical paging codepath. For desktop use cases nobody cares except Arch maintainers retroactively justifying their obsolete installation instructions.

>>109745002
That's also an option, but the idea of having 10% of physical memory which can never be used for RES bothers people.

>>109745111
The file manager? Maybe I just need to enable something.

>>109745180
I don't get what are you saying exactly, Qt is accelerated by default with OpenGL ES

>>109744978
zswap is usually already enabled by default

>>109743952
its no different from exe/msi installers on windows which install system-wide

>>109745380
Did you read my post? CachyOS uses zram not zswap.

>>109738396
linux isnt an os

>>109745407
zswap is enabled in the kernel by default on arch so you're likely already using both zram and zswap

>>109745549
Not on CachyOS, they disable zswap.

im kinda new to GNU/Linux, switched around a month ago, i'm currently on omarchy, my question is, why is fedora mentioned so much when it comes to freedom and privacy, isn't it financed by RedHad (Big Corp)?

>>109745615
>why is fedora mentioned so much when it comes to freedom and privacy
by whom? i've never heard that said ever. freedom might be in reference to them not packaging non-free software in their repos, but other than that it's not that special

>>109742208
Thats what I mean if i didnt have the dry run flag.
no space between exclude=... and Archive. I'm syncing nothing to my backup or my backup to nothing.

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what distro do i put on secondary shitbox pc ?
i've been using mint on my main for 2 years now and was thinking of just putting XFCE edition on the latter but maybe it might be fun to have a weird and wonderful distro instead ?

>>109746013
gentoo

>>109746063
i suppose it would be fun to learn how to compile correctly.
the only terminal-based things I've had to do on mint were installing a missing wifi-router driver and compile a proton vpn install since they don't offer it as a package or flatpak.
can you rice on gentoo ?

>>109746118
>can you rice on gentoo
yes of course

i have this weird issue with vivaldi, anytime i try posting a video i converted it gives me a "Video too small (video: 0x0px, miņ: 1x1px)" error with violentmonkey, yet it works fine in firefox.

>>109746331
Forgot to add, it's when I try posting a video on this site

>excessive padding
>unusable thin scroll bars
>rounded corners
Is this a GNOME thing or am I stuck in this hell forever because of modern UI design?

>>109746421
Fuck it bugs me to no end. WHY would their put the fucking scroll bars on a diet while the top bar and everything else is huge?

>>109746421
>>109746436
use case for larger scrollbars?

>>109746475
So I don't have to gently tickle at it with my mouse until it's highlighted and ready to use? So that I can tell at a glance where I am on a page?

>>109746505
use case for knowing where you are on a page?

>>109746536
>reading a static page, pdf, ebook, whatever
So I know how far along I am? How much is left? So that I can locate myself?
>infinite scroll shit like social media
So I can get ashamed at myself when I see how much I've scrolled?

>>109746579
what makes you think being able to locate yourself is a metric?

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I tried wayland and it just works. Why does everyone hate it here?

>>109746677
Can you locate the tip of my uncircumcised phallus poking your sphincter?

>>109746787
this is situation is getting heated. i recommend slowing down.

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>>109746421

>>109746832
Sorry I meant it in a friendly way

>>109738801
>>109738496
He speaks like a used cars salesman. I watched that interview out of curiosity and I still don't get why his distro is so special.

>>109746706
tendies with obsolete nvidia hardware can't use it and therefore want to gaslight everyone else into not using it

>>109744978
>Is zswap actually better than zram?
It's better if you have a swap file. It can't do compression only in RAM properly yet (you need a swap file) but there's plans for that, when that gets finished the there will be no reason to use ZRAM

>>109738642
>>109738746
>>109742170
>>109742224
>>109743966
I really appreciate your suggestions, folks. I guess I'll just use Honeyview via Wine. I find it highly unusual that Linux devs, as a species, have not combined these elements successfully. Gwenview and NoMacs are the closest but don't have bookmarking. Thank you all again for your help.

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>>109746331
>>109746343
Anyone?

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>install gcolor3
>one job
>pick the color from the screen
>fails at it

I think I had this issue ten years ago too.

>>109744978
>>109747359
I have a Gentoo system that without swap occasionally OOM'd during compilations. Then I enabled zswap and gave it 1GB swap file and shit just works. I understood zswap should work smarter regarding which pages to swap out or compress.
>>109746013
>>109746063
>shitbox
>Gentoo
Compiling certain packages can take forever with slow CPUs. Obviously you can compile the system using your better PC and transfer it over too, I've done that exact thing.

>>109747719
It's telling you the error right there. There's something wrong with the screenshot portal.

What environment are you running in?
Looks like GNOME? I guess something is wrong with xdg-desktop-portal-gnome. Restarting it might help.

>>109748565
"No such interface" usually means the DBus server isn't aware of this thing / it doesn't exist.

So probably just making sure the portal is running will fix it unless they deprecated the screenshot method, etc.

Can an old and failing monitor result in crashes? Before I was getting a lot.
I'm just curious as I have a new monitor and got my PC back.
It might crash again. I'm installing bazzite KDE right now.

>>109748577
Maybe if the GPU driver is badly handling disconnects, etc, could be a race condition that causes lockups or crashes, etc.

A broken monitor shouldn't inherently result in the system crashing though.

>>109747719
will probably have the same issue but i like gpick better

>>109748589
Well I'm a little worried but hopefully that was the case of my Linux build. Please pray for me.

>>109748662
I mean hopefully the 10+ year old monitor was the problem causing crashes somehow and I'm actually gonna be okay.

As silly as it sounds but I've heard of "rebasing" when it comes to Fedora systems from Bazzite.
Is rebasing good in the sense that I can go from Bazzite to Fedora KDE atomic (I think Bazzite is Fedora Atomic) if things go south with bazzite and still keep my files?

>>109745015
>>109745093
Of course I should have explicitly stated that normal swap should exist. Morons.

>>109747534
>I find it highly unusual that Linux devs, as a species, have not combined these elements successfully.
Because no one is throwing money at it. To get things done on gahnoo/leenox, you have to do what Valve does, throw Gaben's weight around with lots and lots of money. Linux devs are like the german mercenaries of the thirty years war in the 1600s, you get what you pay for. Also, you mustn't suggest anything like this to the footfags, they're the papists of the linux world.

>>109745030
>Then what were oldfags using for software management before flatpak and appimage became more ubiquitous, wise guy?
Fundamentally moronic package management. That's one of the reasons why nobody but the most autistic 0.5% of humanity could even use Linux on a desktop before.

>>109742458
>i think arch refused the money because they're afraid of tranny backlash.
a practical distribution (or so it is advertised) should not care about its freeloaders larpers that will die in 5 years.
I want my OS of choice of 10 years to improve, but I guess Arch Linux is more ideological than practical nowadays (and I'm talking about the core team, not the retards here, reddit, youtube, etc)

>>109748668
If you're using Bazzite then you're using an OSTree system which is basically like a layered system like a stack of pancakes. Your bottom layer might have the core system tools and utilities. The middle layer might have your desktop. Then you might install some applications and they layer on top.

Rebasing is basically re-arranging those layers to a different system.

anyone else that uses vesktop have problems with sharing your screen? for some reason the output is always incredibly blurry on smoothness, and incredibly laggy on clarity. my internet and pc are powerful enough to handle streaming so I don't know why the two extremes are happening.

>>109747534
Linux has a massive image viewer and music player deficit problem

>>109750854
>music player deficit problem
https://fooyin.org/

>>109750854
>image viewer
imv
>music player
mpd + ncmpcpp

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I just installed void linux musl and but the only browser options are firefox or chromium? why do I have to suffer because you don't want to build forks sister

>desktop effects restarted due to a graphics reset
How do I prevent this from happening in the future?
Fresh bazzite KDE install.
AMD graphics card.

>>109751076
Void linux devs are mentally ill trannies

>>109746706
Sometimes theres a usecase or situation that works properly under xorg but not under wayland such as remembering where windows were placed.

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>>109751134
yes thats why I picked it because you would think crazy trannies with nothing better to do would make a decent distro, but it is a little tedious compared to artix. I will just settle for firefox

>>109751081
Isn't that exactly what bazzite is for?

>>109751425
Bazzite is for smooth gaming performance. I plan to do 3D stuff so graphics cards restarting is bad good for that.
I'm not sure what is causing graphics cards resets. The I had this morning happened while downloading a Steam game.
My AMD 9060 XT is by gigabyte and so is the motherboard.
Is there some BIOS switch I forgot to turn off or on by chance?
I'm not sure at this point really. Tech support that said they have experience with Linux said that my hardware is fine and I have a new monitor so the odds that old monitor is causing problems is out the window there.
I'm not sure what to do. They tech supports gave 3 month warranty though so that's nice.

>>109751191
Fair point i guess void is a decent distro but crazy trannies are a double edged sword and refuse to package stuff in their distro like hyprland due to political reasons.

>>109750854
No it doesn't.

>>109751081
>desktop effects restarted due to a graphics reset
Never seen this happen. Use an LLM to tell you how to get logs and troubleshoot from there.

>>109742008
NTA and besides the point maybe but don't all distributions allow you a so called minimal install? I've tried Arch, Debian, Ubuntu and Fedora and they all can do the same skeleton system which boots and all but doesn't really have anything, they are all about the same size even.
>>109741514
>I'm sure installing it will teach me a bit but also the maintaining
The manual way of installing a system is a nice skill as you can apply it to any Linux system. Distributions tend to differ on how the so called bootstrapping is done; Arch uses a program called "pacstrap", Debian and Ubuntu use "debootstrap", Fedora uses its own package manager and for Gentoo you get a Tar archive which is extracted to the target mount point. In fact many distributions hand out those tar root filesystem packages to avoid having to have a snowflake tool.
(and yes, this means you could theoretically have an installer that installs any distribution out there)

>>109750854
I just run Foobar on Wine, have been doing so for years. My setup is so customised by myself it's impossible to find a native music player.

>>109751890
Just use an AI to make you a music app at that point.

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>>109751636
Because they are based.

just updated to 7.2.3, did anyone else start having issues with audio coming through a TV/HDMI?

>>109741542
are you on arch? i started having problems this morning with audio. never had an issue before. >>109752559

>>109744183
There is no good reason to separate / and /home if they are on the same drive.

>>109752610
it makes swapping distros far less painful

>>109752635
I'll show you pain.

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New KDE image viewer, what do we think of it? Pic rel is the simplified view, a standard feature for any image viewer.

https://apps.kde.org/koko/

>>109752595
yep, arch. problems started exactly when i updated to 0.5.17

>>109752754
i can't remember if i updated wireplumber but definitely updated the kernel today
wireplumber may have got pulled in when i did a pacman -Syu

>>109752764
i did pacman -Syu around 1st september and then it started.
apparently the problem+fix are known but arch didnt package it yet when i updated or something. not sure about the situation today. you could just install the latest git and see if it helps with your problems

>>109752731
Sure is an image viewer.

>>109752810
meh i have multiple nucs, all with some kind of linux on them. just gonna switch over to one that hasn't been updated in a while. all this to watch some fucking anime.

>>109752731
What is the purpose of this when they already have an image viewer?

>>109752862
>So… why build a replacement?

>Well, over the years Gwenview has fallen behind in some areas that can’t easily be retrofitted without rewriting half of it anyway, like better performance with large image libraries, GPU acceleration, mobile-friendliness, and the kind of enjoyably hackable QtQuick UI that would make it easier to modernize and engage a new generation of contributors.

>>109752879
Understandable.

>update bios
>can't access freshly installed Linux OS
>grub errors
>had to reinstall backup Ubuntu boot
Weird but how do I prevent this from happening again when I have to update my BIOS?

>>109753565
My guess is that your efi boot entries got wiped when you updated the bios.
You can grub-install with the --removable flag so that it uses the generic path of /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI

>>109753565
Sounds like a secure boot issue, should be disabled for Linux

>Hey bro, you want wireguard on your network? Best use minirootfs Alpine to minimize footprint.
I wish I'd known then what I know now, because holy shit, I wasted 12 hours on this crap. No SSDH wired up, not networking wired up, not even fucking syslogd wired up. Also, FreeBSD's adduser's /etc/shadow behavior is borderline sociopathic.

>>109753665
Thanks!
I'm posting from an old Ubuntu backup iso.
I'm gonna install bazzite and put it on a USB as a backup and give CachyOS a go.

I've heard that a lot of Windows 11 refugees are moving there in droves and making security mistakes with the AUR.
Is the Arch AUR a security dangerzone at the moment or is it just Windows users forgetting basic security practices?
Or are there extra Linux security practices that aren't really known in the Windows space that I should be aware of here beyond common sense?

>>109753671
Thankfully the bazzite installation I broke didn't have much files on it. So hopefully after updating my gigabyte motherboard BIOS I should be alright.
Went from f30-something to f42. I didn't want to pick any beta updates.

>>109753565
>updating BIOS
why?

>>109753773
>why?
Because I was getting graphics card restarts and I thought the motherboard BIOS might be out of date so I went with that in hopes that it will mean hopefully no more graphics resets.

>>109752610
Making system backups is easier with separate partitions because there is nothing I keep in my /home that isn't replaceable anyway, mostly just PC games.

>>109753787
rsync --exclude
Not good enough try again

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>Discover kept being shit on KDEF edora 44
>updates Krita to beta
>cant roll back to older version via Discover
>get told to download app image
>do so
>try to open with Discover
>4 fucking Discovers
Wait, is this why it keeps behaving like a slow kid in a black holes gravitational pull?

>>109754200
oh I just realized that it's 5 of them, not 4.

>>109754200
glad my distro completely removed discover in favor of bazaar. discover is borderline unusable. quite literally the worst part of kde.

>>109754200
Look into your desktop files with the KDE menu editor, usually these are hidden entries

>>109752754
it turned out to be my TV, did a full reset of the settings and it started working.

Installing cachyOS right now.
Hopefully this will be a good os after using windows a lot. What are some security precautions I have to have in mind now that I’m using Linux after using w11 for a while?

I had to disable secure boot to get this working.
Can I enable it after the installation is finished or does it have to stay off?
Kind of pays to be paranoid now that vibe coded malware most likely exists now.

>>109754352
>What are some security precautions I have to have in mind now that I’m using Linux after using w11 for a while?
just don't download and execute suspicious files
>Can I enable it after the installation is finished or does it have to stay off?
you can enable it but it takes effort https://wiki.cachyos.org/configuration/secure_boot_setup/

>>109754586
Fair enough.
I got the shelly working. Gonna need getting used to the appearance compared to Bazaar and Snapstore, Discover etc.
What can be downloaded to make it look easier to navigate or just better looking?
Just flatpak and appimage stuff.
CachyOS really is fast. I feel like I'm gonna run into some part of it that makes it "too good to be true" at some point.

So for a Linux newbie what should I install after I finish installing a game to make CachyOS better?
Using the KDE version.

>>109753686
>Is the Arch AUR a security dangerzone at the moment
Not really just inspect the PKGBUILD and other files it might come with before you install something from the AUR
And also check the comments to see if anyone mentions anything about malware.

>>109754823
Thank you anon!
I did like Bazaar when I was using Bazzite. Is it okay to install on CachyOS? There won't be any hiccups I'll be throwing on myself?

>>109754200
Didn't some anon used to brag about KDE being able to properly open appimages?

>>109754352
Secure boot is snakeoil you dont really gain much from enabling it.

>>109754352
Don't YOLO into the AUR like a retard.

>>109754685
>what should I install after I finish installing a game
Nothing? You try to play your games on it and see if they work. This isn't windows 11 where you need 3rd party plugins everywhere.

>>109754838
Bazaar is generally for flatpaks and is distro agnostic. So go ahead and use it.

>>109754685
>CachyOS really is fast. I feel like I'm gonna run into some part of it that makes it "too good to be true" at some point.
not really. the correct way to look at it is that CPUs have had a fuckton of useful features for a long time now and we're only now seeing devs enable them because devs are faggots who either don't know how useful these optimizations are or just don't know how easy it is to enable.
we're being held back by dumbasses basically.

this all really took off with clear linux which itself was really an Intel project so it makes sense they would have optimized it to make use of new CPU features.

>>109754838
I don't use bazaar or whatever the cachyos equivalent is. You would be better off learning how to use something like yay or paru from the command line instead of a gui frontend.

>>109754911
actually i'll shout out Phoronix too, they pushed the idea of Linux performance *hard*. great site.

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>install zsh
>most commands don't complete tab completion for their options
>only the main ones like apt and systemd mostly work as expected

Thought this was meant to be better?

>>109755018
we're using fish now btw

>>109755018
Do you have the zsh-completions package installed and sourced in your zsh config?

>>109748565
This will be in Xfce with the xdg-desktop-portal-gdk.

>>109748620
That's what I use now and it works out of the box in Debian.

>>109755035
I'm worried it won't be close to bash. I only wanted zsh for its suggestions of commands in the history and a few other quirks.

>>109755040
I have zsh-autosuggestions. There isn't zsh-completions in the repository (debian). There's a few vendor ones in /usr/share/zsh/vendor-completions/ that work.

# Use modern completion system
autoload -Uz compinit
compinit

>>109755099
>I'm worried it won't be close to bash. I only wanted zsh for its suggestions of commands in the history and a few other quirks.
it's not close to bash but it's fucking brilliant all the same.

>>109754352
>What are some security precautions I have to have in mind now that I’m using Linux after using w11 for a while?
if you enter a terminal command and get a warning, actually fucking read it before pressing your Y key.
software manager is a vetted source for programmes but features a lot of very outdated versions, the listed bittorrent for instance is now 2 years old and is missing several security updates.
if you are unsure about downloading something through the terminal double check the source and remember it is case-sensitive.
use a adblocker, don't open weird links.
basically everything you did on windows.
>Can I enable it after the installation is finished or does it have to stay off?
if you want nothing but ballaches sure.

i updated bazzite today and now every youtube video has an ugly ass artifacting seam straight down the middle

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>>109755768
you must've offended the lord in some fashion and this is your repentance

>>109755768
thank god i use something stable and not something with experimental updoots

wonder if pewdiepie actually still uses linux or not.

>>109755844
yes

t. pewdiepie

>>109755767
>basically everything you did on windows.
I ran a number of virus scans. I'm not sure how good clamAV is for when I did a little lewd browsing with adblock on. Didn't download anything to my knowledge. I do want to do some torrenting with qbittorrent but if I download something malicious I'm not sure what the protocol is. Is ClamAV a snakeoil like how >>109754850 says secure boot is? A good antivirus scanner for Linux would really help give me peace of mind especially when they actually are working.
>inb4 common sense
I am not perfect and I have forgotten my common sense quite a bit in the past.
>if you want nothing but ballaches sure.
Alright I'll keep secureboot off.

>>109755768
I've seen a lot of people posting about this with Fedora kernel updates, usually with AMD. If Bazzite keeps older kernels like Fedora try just sticking with the older one that worked for now.
>>109755812
It's Atomic so it's not that bad. You can simply pin a stable image and go back to it if an updoot does something stupid, then migrate to a new image and pin that when you're satisfied.

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>install win11 pro after using Linux exclusively for a couple years
>spend a few hours setting up my desktop as best I can, can’t get it exactly the way I like it but it’s good enough
>computer proceeds to crash a shitload for literally no reason
>never had any crashes on Linux the entire time
>boot up crimson desert
>it runs noticeably worse (7900xtx 64gb ram r9 9900x3d)
>boot up darktide
>it’s fucking unplayable with the constant stuttering
>shit keeps crashing, doesn’t even give me a BSOD, just freezes and reboots
>fuck it, just wipe and go back to using endevour
>zero issues since

What the fuck did I do wrong? Is this just what win11 is like?

>>109756949
>Is this just what w11 is like?
Most likely. Microsoft dropped the ball or their big executives are taking bets on how much they can get away with making it bad before the Linux users become too high.
I don't want to believe that they are incompetent. This is deliberate downgrading.
>darktide
What a coincidence. I'm installing it right now on CachyOS KDE. Hopefully after a BIOS update I won't get graphics resets while playing.
>about 15 hours of waiting
Gaben please.

>>109756949
AMD drivers are fucking horrendous on windows

>>109756997
That’s what I noticed yeah, the amd adrenaline software is insufferable but on Linux amd drivers are so good you don’t even realize they exist.

>>109752731
Can it crop?

>>109756997
They're horrendous on Linux too unfortunately.

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>>109757140
>AMD horrendous on Linux
>AMD supposedly more friendly to the Linux operating systems
I'm not feeling good lads.

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Why do 99% of distributions still rely on insecure network time from the ntp pool project? I'm pretty sure cloudflare could handle all of it these days including having network time security (nts) support. Google and aws public ntp do not yet support it though so we need more redundancy. SystemD devs need to improve their time sync daemon as it can only use sntp right now.

Ubuntu and Pop!_OS use their own secure time servers and chrony is now the default installed daemon I think. All other distros seem to be stuck in the past.

>>109757140
this is just not true at all

>>109757463
You said, without a thorough experience of using AMD on linux.
Go look up 'ring gfx_0.0.0 timeout' and '[gfxhub] page fault - GCVM_L2_PROTECTION_FAULT_STATUS' related errors on https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/work_items
Just because your experience is stable doesn't mean everyone's is. To this day I can't actually game properly on Linux because there's a high chance it will randomly page fault and crash my entire desktop, requiring a hard reset of the machine because AMD GPUs don't know how to reset properly.
Not only do AMD engineers seem to not know why this happens (believe me, I've spent literally dozens of hours looking through every dev response and possible fix), it actually doesn't happen on windows because the driver code base is different and the driver seems to just discard the error there rather than hang.

If it works for you, great, but they are unstable as fuck for a good number of people in a way that's actually quite unacceptable really.

Still rather this than NVIDIA though.

>>109754352
>I had to disable secure boot to get this working.
No you didn't.

>>109754968
>yay or paru
You mean "flatpak".

>>109755768
Apparently there is some fuckup with AV1 codecs in the specific driver version they're using. Disable those in your web browser.

>>109758697
Are you stupid? Yes he did, a live USB is absolutely not booting unless you disable secure boot (unless it's signed in some way, which it will not be).

>>109754352
https://wiki.cachyos.org/configuration/secure_boot_setup/

>>109758774
>a live USB is absolutely not booting unless you disable secure boot
Sounds like a CachyOS issue. You don't need to disable secure boot to boot into Universal Blue distros and install them.

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I found a cat5 cable and a patch cable in my closet. I don't remember why i have them. Usecase for them? I'm trying to cut down on useless things, idk what i'd need to use a cable to transfer files to another pc when i can just use a usb? and idk what a patch cable does.

>>109757511
>'ring gfx_0.0.0 timeout'
Could be anything, this is more of a generic statement of "a problem happened" and only tells 1/4th of the story.

>the driver seems to just discard the error
Which means there is a problem, but the windows driver doesn't try to fix it.

The last time I had freezing like this was due to power/voltage fluctuations via the outlet, and that was on windows using AMD, and that was 10 years ago. Every GPU I bought - 290x, 390x, rx 480, rx 580 - ended up with either black screen or random freezing at some point before I realized it's not the GPUs at fault. Even sitting on desktop idle, once every two or three weeks it would freeze entirely. I don't know if my situation can apply to yours, but I fixed my problem by using a different outlet and it's been smooth sailing to 2026.

>>109758873
>only tells 1/4th of the story.
Right, I added the other common error that I (and many others) often experience.

I've tried undervolting, underclocking, a ton of kernel driver arguments, radv debug variables that disables features, a range of mesa versions. It's been a problem for years, it's never getting fixed for me on my card (RDNA1).
It's simply inexcusable that using the GPU can cause it to randomly page fault and crash the entire desktop, especially since this does not happen on Windows.

I have no doubt that if I bought a new card I'd likely have no issues, but even that's not true for everyone, people on RDNA3 and RDNA4 report this error even today, just not many of them.

Point is, AMD sucks ass on Linux, it's just better than NVIDIA.

>>109758820
A Cat5 cable is pretty damn useless these days because of its 100mbps limit. Just e-recycle it.

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>>109758899
Which distro on linux, what kernel and mesa, and what windows version are you on now?

>>109758952
Using the card with Arch for five years, then Cachy recently for about three months. Every mesa and drm driver that's been pushed on and off for those five years. Windows 10.

Trust me, you can't solve this problem, I've put 50x more time into it than you want to. Anything you can think of I've tested. There's a fault with RDNA1 silicone and they have no interest in fixing it. I don't know the exact cause for the same error/crash on RDNA3/4.

>>109758963
>Anything you can think of I've tested.
Including moving your PC from wherever you are to another wall outlet in another room? Kind of a stupid thing to say, but there it is.

>windows 10
I seriously hope you're on Enterprise or LTSC.

>>109759022
>Including moving your PC from wherever you are to another wall outlet in another room? Kind of a stupid thing to say, but there it is.
No, but if this was remotely related I'd think that either windows would experiences crashes, or undervolting it would relieve them.

>I seriously hope you're on Enterprise or LTSC.
Nope. I use it in a VM and all it does is play games. It's EoL but I don't care, certainly not using 11.

>>109759033
Hold on, you're using a VM to play windows games? And said games don't crash on high usage on windows due to using windows drivers there? That is utterly weird even for AMD.

>amdgpu.noretry=0 amdgpu.lockup_timeout=1000 amdgpu.gpu_recovery=1

Last thing, did you try this?
Also, what GPU vendor, if you say Asus or Gigabyte I wouldn't be surprised.

>>109759050
>Hold on, you're using a VM to play windows games? And said games don't crash on high usage on windows due to using windows drivers there? That is utterly weird even for AMD.
I use a VM to play games using a secondary NVIDIA card. However if I do boot the system into Windows on baremetal (as I have for extended periods before) and use the AMD card instead (it is the primary), no crashes. In fact I experiences no crashes under Windows no matter my config.

>Last thing, did you try this?
Yep. I've seen them all.
>Also, what GPU vendor, if you say Asus or Gigabyte I wouldn't be surprised.
Powercolor, it was the highest end model too.

>>109758899
>Point is, AMD sucks ass on Linux, it's just better than NVIDIA.
My Nvidia card never freezes thoughbeit

>bootup Mint from 2024 I put on a 256gb ssd on dell optiplex I got from work
>its quite nice actually
I was going to run syncthing etc on my gl iNet flint 2, but I might plug this in and do it from this

>>109759071
>Plugin unknown ethernet cable
>Tray icon doesn't show me Lan speed
>Neither does connection
>How to show wired network speed in mint
>>Open terminal and use ethtool
>Do so
>>ethtool not found install it with sudo apt install ethtool
Holy fuck and I'm already annoyed. The little things are important why do they never fucking learn. Anyway it will be useful for a few server needs instead of weighing down the router

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>>109759061
>Powercolor, it was the highest end model too.
>Powercolor
Anon, I . . .
I can only say it's to be expected. I hope you pick a better GPU, AMD or Nvidia, someday. Early adoption of 1st generation GPUs in a new arch is always iffy since no one knows what problems you might run into.

>>109759090
Highest model FROM POWERCOLOR. I think this was pretty clear, doubly so if you had any familiarity with their lineups and knew they always offered three tiers of cards.

>>109759090
I agree RDNA1 was going to be rough given it was AMD's first good card in forever.
However, I'd argue it is actually not acceptable that simply running a game on it has a random chance to flash bang crash you with a driver fault that requires you to reboot your PC. I'd rather lose 10% fps all the time, than have whatever feature is causing this instability.
>it's the first generation, you need to tolerate it if it crashes randomly even when it doesn't on windows
Na. Seriously fuck AMD (but fuck NVIDIA harder).

>>109757511
NTA but I think I hallucinated a "slightly garbled text" while typing. To be fair I am installing a steam game. Hopefully I am just seeing things that aren't there.
I updated my Bios and CachyOS seems up to date and my 9060XT GPU is AMD so I think kernel supports it just fine.

>>109759146
Update: I think I saw it again. Hopefully these disappear after downloading is done. But what are these problems called so I can look up what could be causing them if they are an indicator of a possible bigger problem with my PC or Linux OS?

>>109759146
this is probably a proton thing and not your graphics card

>use archinstall to install arch
>pick kde meta
>it doesn't install konsole
do you really not need a terminal on arch?

What is the WORST Linux you've ever used and why?

>>109759712
arch >>109759691

>>109759691
yep just went through this, had to install konsole flatpak on discover. also not the first time it's happened to me.

>>109759691
I never use KDE Meta to install KDE on Arch. It's better to install a selection of KDE groups that give you everything you might need instead of what you think the meta group gives you. Like getting kde-utilities and kde-system alongside "plasma" gives you a solid enough beginning, while also maybe adding kde-graphics as well.

>>109759691
There is no kde-meta. plasma-meta only installs plasma (aka the desktop shell) and konsole is not part of that. kde-applications-meta contain the applications.
Also use package groups instead of meta packages

>>109759691
>>109759716
there was a debacle on how much the kde preset should install https://github.com/archlinux/archinstall/issues/4336
i do think they should at least add konsole but you can always just add extra packages to the install

>>109759740
If you choose the recommended plasma package on the KDE profile in archinstall you will boot into a system with no terminal.

>>109759712
All of those shitty fedora based atomic distros

Does kde have some kind of scriptable way to add or change settings something similar to windows regedit?
For example i want to disable the default setting of remembering last session when logging out and start with an empty session every time i log in, but i would like to do this without having to manually dig through settings every time i do an install of kde.

>>109759849
>but i would like to do this without having to manually dig through settings every time i do an install of kde.
you can literally just alt + space and search sessions and it brings you to the page you need

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>>109759712
synology dsm. man what an awful piece of software, everything is locked down, you can barely install anything on your own, and if you try then there's no guarantee that a system update won't just wipe your stuff on first opportunity. have to use the stupid dsm web ui for everything and package stuff using their stupid package format, you can't just simply ssh into it and install your own executables/services on it and have them survive updoots. i don't recommend buying this

>Install Zorin OS
>It just works
I get that it has an older Ubuntu build, but man, for a Linux newfag, it feels nice.

>>109759802
this

>>109759802
>>109759876
Yeah it probably should install the basic kde applications by default. But you can still just switch to a tty and install konsole

>>109759866
Never even heard of that

>>109759849
/.config/ksmserverrc

[General]
loginMode=emptySession

>>109759868
No. You must install Arch GNU/Linux LTSC or you are nothing. I am a conservative trans woman with COPTSD and living with Long COVID, so I know what I'm talking about. Until you install Arch GNU/Linux LTSC, you'll never be anything but a poser.

>>109759918
SO TRUE sister.
Wow, you spoke and I listened. Please forgive me.

>>109759910
it's a quite popular NAS brand

>>109759712
Ubuntu, Debian and Mint. Neither can gracefully handle system updates between point releases. They are worse than Manjaro.

>>109759740
meta packages would be fine if you could have pacman never reinstall a package you removed

>>109759951
>Neither can gracefully handle system updates between point releases. They are worse than Manjaro.
how do you mean ?
linux mint it's literally a matter of clicking the update manager and allowing it to do it's thing once a week.

>>109760008
>once a week.
There are no point release updates happening once a week. You're confusing regular updates with OS version updates.

>>109760026
oh.
surely you are using a ltsc though and it's a matter of just doing a fresh OS install every 4 - 5 years ?

>>109760039
>fresh OS install
An OS that requires fresh installs just do to a version upgrade is an inherently broken, garbage OS. No, I don't want to do this.
>lts
I don't want to stay on an outdated and insecure version of an OS for 5 years. That's just retarded. My desktop PC is not a server.

>>109760058
whatever you say sperglord.
>I don't want to stay on an outdated and insecure version of an OS for 5 years.
thats literally what the update manager is for on lts versions.
you literally download security updates weekly through it.
you sound retarded.

>>109760077
>you literally download security updates weekly through it.
You do realize security updates are only there for a small minority of packages, primarily server-related packages? Maybe 5% of packages in the Ubuntu/Debian repos get security updates. LTS desktops are inherently less secure than rolling release desktops.

>whatever
>sperglord
>literally
>you sound retarded
It's always amusing to see dumb people sperg out about things they know nothing about. Let me guess, you only started using Linux this year or last year?

>>109760077
To add to this >>109760117, funny how you completely ignored the fact that
>these distros are inherently broken due to updates not being stable and reliable
>these distros are inherently outdated due to not getting feature updates
You tried to latch onto a single word in my comment thinking you'll do a "got ya" and invalidate everything I said, yet you're completely wrong anyway. Go back to your friends at r/linuxquestions and r/linux4noobs

>>109746706
try putting wayland on old hardware or try setting up global keyboard shortcuts

>>109760186
>try putting wayland on old hardware
>try setting up global keyboard shortcuts
both work fine on KDE

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*presses the update button*
ah what a cool and easy to use my secure, stable distro

I'm writing a program in C that contains sections of debugging code that are included in the executable if a macro is defined. My text editor is vim, and whenever I enter the pound key, my position on the current line is reset to the beginning of the line before it's entered. What do I put in the configuration file to stop this behavior?

>>109759912
Thanks for the info, i guess the same thing would also apply to any other kde related setting? As in writing it to whichever designated config file. I guess its not much different to configuring a wm

>>109760008
Yeah i have no idea wtf he's on about since on debian all you need to do is change the sources file to the next version and doing an apt dist-upgrade and mint/ubuntu have a way to automate that.

>>109759721
The fuck? If you were on arch and had used the terminal to install plasma-meta, why not just use it to install konsole as well?
Btw konsole is pulled by kde-utilities-meta, which is pulled by kde-applications-meta, should you want them.
It's probably not pulled by plasma-meta for good reason, it's an extension of plasma, it is not required to use plasma. I use plasma and don't use konsole at all, in fact I don't want it installed, so I'm glad plasma-meta doesn't pull it.

>>109757140
>>109756997
Works on my machine.
>>109760186
Stupid question but how is hardware relevant to any userland application such as Wayland? I thought the kernel abstracted all of it.
>>109760008
>updates between point releases
You know, the thing that Debian/Ubuntu(/Mint) people call dist-upgrade.

>>109759740
>Also use package groups instead of meta packages
User choice, but I disagree. I like -meta packages because they're dynamically updated to pull required changes and are easy to recursively remove. Installing a group installs all its members explicitly, explicitly installed packages are annoying to clean.

>>109760516
Nobody wants all the junk in kde-applications-meta