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Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil — notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread. ***

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

>Which distro should I choose?
https://nosystemd.org
>What are some cool programs?
https://suckless.org
>What are some cool terminal commands?
https://cheat.sh
>Where can I learn the command line?
RTFM
>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://stallman.org
>How to break out of the botnet?
Use free software & open source hardware

GNU/Linux Games:
>>>/vg/lgg

Previous thread: >>109687821
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THAT'S A PICTURE OF ADOLF HITLER
THAT'S ADOLF HITLER.
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HAT'S OFF TO ALT DOLFLER
THIS IS IT ADOLF HATLER
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>>109707793
Reposting - Anyone know anything about yt-dlp output syntax when using the --split-chapter modifier? This is in Bash.
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>>109707925
>You killed the man
>Not the idea
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AnduinOS
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Thinking about trying out CachyOS on a spare SSD, I think I've got everything ready, except one thing that I've been wondering about.
All of my data is on NTFS drives (including games), and I heard that NTFS support on Linux wasn't that great and could cause data corruption. Is this still accurate, and if it is, what kind of setup would you guys recommend for a dual booting setup without having to copy games over to the btrfs partition?
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Any weird bullshit workarounds you guys have done.

sound driver issues for this laptop means I piped the audio out to an ancient much shittier box with consistently working sound then run the headphones from there.
all because I got bored of trying to figure out why the sound failed.
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I'm currently daily drive testing ZorinOS and NobaraOS. They're both excellent for a casual user like myself, so hopefully I'll come to a decision before the weekend as to which I like better.
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>>109707846
>>109707880
Jesus it sounds super complicated. What about shim-signed? Is it any better? AI slop says it is a simpler way but i don't trust ai
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>>109707925
I miss Hitler.
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Made this script to quickly toggle displays on and off on KDE as it seems there's no easy way to do it out of the box for desktops.

#!/usr/bin/env bash

# Made to easily toggle displays on KDE
# To make a system tray icon:
# - Create a desktop file for this script with KDE menu editor
# - Add the "Quicklaunch" widget to your panel and add the desktop file there

set -euo pipefail

[[ "${1-}" == "--help" ]] && echo "Usage: ${0##*/}" && exit

declare -A outputs

while read -r name enabled; do
outputs+=([$name]="$enabled")
done < <(kscreen-doctor --json | jq -r '.outputs[] | [.name, .enabled] | join(" ")')

unset "outputs[DP-1]" # Unset the main monitor connector, we don't want to toggle that one

for key in "${!outputs[@]}"; do
options+=("$key" "$key")
done

choice=$(kdialog --title 'Display Toggle' --menu 'Outputs' "${options[@]}")

if [[ "${outputs[$choice]}" == true ]]; then
kscreen-doctor output."$choice".disable
else
kscreen-doctor output."$choice".enable
fi
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>>109708780
>>109708804
Fucking imbeciles. Using niche OS doesn't make you cooler.

By gatekeeping you shooting yourself in the foot.
The more people use linux the better software support.

If linux would be mainstream then we would have the following already:
good ngreedia drivers with native ngreedia app
native adobe products
native cad software
anti-cheat support for multiplayer slop
more maintainers for drivers for niche hardware like arm notebooks

>b-but more normies means linux will be dumbed down
No you stupid moron. It doesn't works this way. This isn't windows.
You can still use Arch/Gentoo and rice it to hell.

There is literally 0 (null) reason to gatekeep. Normie adoption benefits you directly.
If valve didn't intervene we would still had shitty amd drivers and no hdr support. Only because of their normie power we have better software now
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CachyOS
https://wiki.cachyos.org/cachyos_basic/why_cachyos/
>>109709162
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>>109709256
convert them to fat32 if possible, or just exfat.
ntfs support is complete ass on linux, even the newer kernel modules. i always got some badblocks shit fucking my day up. never touching ntfs again.
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>>109709256
Linux has the ntfs-3g driver which is slow but very reliable, and the new ntfs3 driver which is fast but very unreliable. Linux has no ntfs-fsck program worth using, so you have to boot Windows if the filesystem needs repair. Either reboot or spin up a VM.
>copy games over to the btrfs partition?
Some kind of native partition.

>>109710306
>convert them to fat32 if possible, or just exfat
This is how you go back to 1996 with strict synchronous IO or filesystems that progressively eat themselves. Just learn to use ntfs-3g.
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>>109710466
>Just learn to use ntfs-3g.
i tried. i couldn't mount a fucking ntfs usb drive unless i went back to winshit and did a disk check there because it had flipped some stupid badblocks thing on and wouldn't let me turn it off.
fat32 just works. exfat largely just works. they don't "eat themselves" at all, that's some retarded fud.
"very reliable" my ass
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>>109710509
You either weren't doing safe eject or there's something wrong with the drive / filesystem. Getting marked dirty all the time is a warning sign.
> they don't "eat themselves" at all
They do whenever you catch a hard reset. Filesystem journaling is important. Ask anyone old enough to remember when it wasn't a standard feature.
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Does Linux have support for the Intel Arc CPUs?
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>>109710543
yeah ofc i wasn't, why do i have to babysit a fucking usb drive like that and if i get it wrong once the stupid cunt needs me to run a whole separate OS to fix?
there's nothing wrong with the drive, it works perfectly now on exfat.
funny you mention journaling, as long as you actually safe-dismount that's never a problem either.
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>>109710560
>why do i have to babysit a fucking usb drive
Because you have a write buffer. Windows has the same problem. You're probably losing pieces of stuff all the time.
>as long as you actually safe-dismount that's never a problem either
As long as you never have a crash or power cut.
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>>109710638
i was more pissed off that i had to keep windows around just to fix a fucking usb. i no longer have to do that. ironically i later had to install windows because my work won't let me VPN unless they identify my connection as a windows one.
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>>109710655
>i was more pissed off that i had to keep windows around just to fix a fucking usb. i no longer have to do that. ironically i later had to install windows because my work won't let me VPN unless they identify my connection as a windows one.
Just run your work in VM?
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>>109710662
i couldn't be bothered, plus i had a spare nuc just sitting around. at least it was producing money somehow and not just being used to fix a fucked ntfs.
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I like alma
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>>109708684
to be fair I can't read let alone write his blog posts on the topic
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I want to try linux but I only have one ssd. Is it possible to split it to make one partition without formatting it?
So I don't have to go through tedious process of uninstalling windows -> formatting and splitting disk in two in linux installer live usb -> install windows -> install linux.
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>>109710894
just run wsl2 until you're sure you no longer need windows
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>>109710894
try puppy you don't have to partition to install it
it's just a folder you link the boot loader to
you don't have to install it btw
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>>109710912
>until you're sure you no longer need windows
I have Nvidia card. Most of the games for me have worse performance on linux. It will be at least 2-3 years before faggot Huang shits out good drivers for linux
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>>109710962
just stick with wsl2 then. what do you actually want linux for?
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>>109710965
I'm just bored. Want something different
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>>109710999
then live without good gpu drivers.
seriously anon, you'll probably be alright with the nvidia drivers, i've heard steam/proton basically makes all windows games just werk now. just go full retard and back up your important shit and switch to cachyos.
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>>109710962
>It will be at least 2-3 years before faggot Huang shits out good drivers for linux
Optimistic
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Where do you get your linux news?
Is phoronix a good source? I've seen it getting banned on many tech reddits. Why? There is something wrong with it? Is there a good alternative?
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What's the most crisp and eyecandy bitmap font? Do you bitmap guys just roll with Terminus or
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>>109711687
>I've seen it getting banned on many tech reddits. Why?
Because it gets spammed a lot and the subreddits prefer linking to the original source which is usually NOT Phoronix (unless it's a review piece or exclusive piece of content which is rare).

It's a fine source of news besides that.
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>>109711731
For my hobbies, eg. editing text files and some programming I have used terminus since 20xx. I have tried others but I will always return back to it.
I'm sure there are other great bitmap fonts too.
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>>109708684
>men dont hit the wa-
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>>109710894
Question is can you shrink any partitions you already got.
>>109710545
GPUs? Yes.
>>109709885
This.
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would anyone happen to know why when i play games sometimes my cpu fans start blasting even though they're on regular temps?
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>>109711766
That's nice, anon.

>I'm sure there are other great bitmap fonts too
Yeah, I'm looking for recs... I'll open up the archive then.
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>run apt upgrade
>it just downloads hundreds of megabytes of kernel and browser updates without any issue
>open web page with a few megabytes of content
>"making sure you are not a bot"
>you may also have to tick a box or fill in captchas

How comes you don't get any of this when using apt, dnf, pacman etc?
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>>109711932
Isn't that the gpu fans? Pausing a game with uncapped fps will increase the frame rate and cause fans to to increase rpms.
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>>109711932

could be cpu cache prefetch or aura feature
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>>109711995
no, im actually playing a game right now that's very low on the gpu and the fans arent even spinning
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is there proper ntfs support yet or are my drives still going to implode as soon as i run linux
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>>109712783
see >>109710306
>>109710509
>>109710560
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>>109711981
Package managers aren't the ones getting assfucked by LLM scrapers 24/7.
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>>109712807
so the new ntfs driver is bad?
i tried ntfs-3g before and while i got it working in the end i had to boot into windows to fix the drives a bunch of times
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>>109712826
did you even read the linked comments
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>>109712835
only >>109710466 which says "and the new ntfs3 driver which is fast but very unreliable"
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>>109712848
so you didn't
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Any of you anons got advice for getting virtualbox to work fine okay out of the box?
I don't have secure boot on but I keep running into issues with it failing to boot on Linux mint.
I have drive encryption enables so I have no idea if that's giving it issues. But it's saying I might have to go and sign individual drivers which I'd like to avoid doing.
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>>109709256
For peace of mind, you're better off moving everything to at least ext4. Don't try to run heavy read-write programs like games in NTFS while on linux, you'll regret it in the future. Ext4 and BTRFS are faster than NTFS and thus load games much faster.
See:
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-4.7-FS-5-Way
This is old data, but it still applies.

>dual boot
If you really want to dual boot, install windows first, physically disconnect the windows SSD, then install linux on the spare SSD and then connect windows back in place. Keep them on separate drives so windows doesn't decide to overwrite grub. I'm not sure if cachy supports secureboot since I don't use it myself, but see if you need to turn it off in BIOS before installation.
As for data, you can get away with your movies, anime, manga, and music in NTFS.
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>>109709885
But it's better to contain the mongolian hordes on something derivative so they don't end up infecting mainline distros with their stupidity, don't forget the latter is contagious. The AUR is a perfect example of windows migrants doing stupid things.
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>>109710306
>>109710466
>>109713021
Thanks for the replies guys.
So then maybe I should instead completely convert my games partition to ext4 and
wsl --mount
it from the Windows side.
Images/music/text files can stay on NTFS though, right?
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>>109711731
You need to look through the old desktop threads at least a decade back.
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>>109713117
>Images/music/text files can stay on NTFS though
That's what I did, and I don't mount them unless I have to. Dual booting windows btw. I have a portable drive that's in NTFS and been storing throwaway data on it for almost 5 years after dual booting, and the only problem I ran into was during a cut-and-paste operation I had to fix over on windows because I was far too impatient and clicked a movie to run when it was in the middle of writing.
My method of installing a dual boot may seem overly cautious and is indeed retarded, but I'd rather play it safe.
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>>109711960
>https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts/tree/master/bitmap
Here's tons of bitmap fonts. Silicon Graphics Screen is pretty cool for example, but it's bit too tiny for my eyes.
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>>109713174
Alright, that sounds good, thanks.
One last thing, >>109710466 mentioned the ntfs-3g and ntfs3 drivers, but when I snooped around further I saw people mention NTFSPlus, anyone using it?
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>>109713204
Stick with the old ntfs-3g, it's what I'm using on Nobara. Anything new to something as fundamental as filesystem formats, let someone else beta-test it, don't try to tinker with new software unless you can afford the potential collateral damage.
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I want to learn Linux. I've used le haxor arch for the last 3 years with le niche window manager last updated 2016, and le efficient text editor, but I don't know shit. I have a problem I go google, copy paste the commands, sometimes have to ask AI for harder things. I know some commands, I know to do some things, but I don't know to solve OS problems.
Recently I was looking at some SoCs with video encoding and how their little cores run Linux, and how it is ported, the internal interfaces for uart, i2c, etc, and how you write them and how they can be described by device trees too and loaded at runtime, and how the kennel is built with Kconfig, it's so cool, but I know jack shit. Used lots of ai to reasearch but mostly for it to find me sample repos or driver implementations for me to look at. I burn to understand and use these things, to create. I see systems and their depth and feel admiration and motivation to know in a world where the idea of knowledge itself is deeply perverted by machines. How the fuck do I start knowing Linux? How do the fuck do I create something with substance?
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>>109713297
>I want to learn Linux. I've used le haxor arch for the last 3 years with le niche window manager last updated 2016, and le efficient text editor, but I don't know shit
Are you implying you want linux-related books? Go to libgen and type linux in the search bar.
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>>109713297
I think you first need to learn about general OS concepts if you don't know know about them already, and then learn how these concepts are handled, implemented and work in Linux. And then once you know about that, you'll begin to understand what you need to do to accomplish whatever it is you want to do.
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If you don't use Trisquel GNU/Linux, you are nothing but a slaver. That's a FACT.
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>>109711731
I like SGI Screen.
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>>109713204
ntfs+ is something to watch, but give it 5 years. ntfs is a very complicated filesystem and building a mature kernel driver for it is no small task.
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>>109709835
It's not complicated at all, I just gave you a bunch of warnings. The actual steps to enable it take less than five minutes, including booting into the bios to enable setup mode (assuming your mobo isn't unclear on how to do it).
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>>109711731
i use this https://font.gohu.org/
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Can I play games on Linux yet with an NVIDIA GPU? I heard drivers still suck.
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>>109707925
I'm getting a new GPU and I'm split between a 5070 and a 9070xt.
Njudea said they're stopping making drivers for w10 after October.
So, I'm moving to Linux (again) soon, so which GPU would work better on Linux?
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>>109707925
Best Distros:
>Pop OS
>Void
>Slackware
>Fedora
Complete Dogshit
>Everything else
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>>109714179
Yeah but they're far less performant than on Windows. In certain games, a 5090 matches a 9070XT.
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>>109714283
How less? Is it noticable? Like from 144 FPS to something like 60FPS? I would hate that. But if it's 144 FPS to 120FPS then I would probably not care.
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>>109714345
I'd just go look at benchmarks on youtube, or phoronix (very good if you can find a good/recent article), any numbers I gave you would be made up.
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>>109714360
Thanks, friendo.
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>>109714575
I think it's exaggerated and nothing to really worry about. Plenty of people have been using Nvidia to game on linux for the past 4 years, what makes this any different now.
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>>109714283
That's not the case any longer, dingus. vkd3d heap descriptor is supported etc.
Even real gpu undervolting is viable because of 'lact'.
People shouldn't give out this useless rumour based advice. If all of your linux knowledge comes from youtube videos and AI regurgitation you don't have any idea. Perhaps learn to read some patch notes on your own instead...
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>>109715964
Show benchmarks proving this problem is solved rather than telling me "patch notes said it's better now".
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>>109716015
Do your own work, retard. That's why you are better off using Windows anyway.
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>>109716106
>admit that what i said definitely used to be true
>claim it's different now, offering no actual proof
>when pressed for proof, meltdown, claim it is other people that need to find proof that supports your own claim
Yeah I figured you were just making shit up, thanks for confirming.

Also I haven't used Windows in 11 years and have an AMD system at this point.
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What can I do to limit memory reserved by a java application? Project Zomboid gets to run native java instead of through proton. It has the heap limit by default set to 3g but it reserves around 10g in total upon loading a world which is closer to oom thrashing than I am comfortable with. And this apparently is not an issue under Windows, only linux.
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>>109707925
I plan to try using qbittorrent to get some stuff.
I have Linux Mint XFCE at the moment.
I am worried about torrenting a Linux compatible virus. How will I know I gave my PC a virus or malware etc.?
Is there a good Linux security program that checks for viruses regardless if for Linux or Windows or Mac?
What are some security precautions I should take to ensure I am in the safe?

Lastly I have some other questions.
Is CachyOS a meme distro or distro flavor of the month or distro 15 minutes of fame right now?
I'm not sure if there is shilling or if it is genuinely good. I might move to Bazzite. Or regular Fedora with KDE atomic which should I go for?

Is it true that a dying computer monitor can cause a whole system to reboot or crash?
I suspect it might be the case because my diagnosed PC is reporting no problems from experts and I'm getting a new monitor that should arrive soon.
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I keep seeing Linux Mint recommended to me as a first time brand new user. Is this a good choice? All the distros I've seen look good, but Mint seems to be the most pushed one for ease of access.
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>>109717087
Mint is the best version of Ubuntu you can use which in itself was originally made to make Linux easier to install, though these days it's been majorly outclassed.
Besides Mint the big current releases are Arch and its forks CachyOS and EndeavourOS and Fedora and its forks Bazzite and Aurora.
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>>109717102
I've read that Arch is notoriously difficult and shit at times, does Cachy help to alleviate that?
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>>109717105
"Difficult and shit" is said by people that don't want to bother keeping it updated/maintained properly which forks like Cachy and Endeavour try to alleviate by making it more simple to use.
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>>109717105
>I've read that Arch is notoriously difficult and shit at times, does Cachy help to alleviate that?
Arch's diffuclty comes from the fact that:
a) it has a difficult install (even with Archinstall script it can still be confusing)
b) you have *nothing* on fresh install, you need to install everything yourself
CachyOS and EndeavorOS are Arch but with proper GUI installer and with some base packages preinstalled, and that takes 90% of difficulty off of Arch. The other aspect of Arch is that it is bleeding edge and that updates come regularly and it is quite possible for a poorly tested update to fuckup your system. It never happened to me, but it is possible.
CachyOS even has GUI packet manage, so if you want to try Arch I'd say to go with it.
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>>109717119
>>109717151
Thanks guys.
I'll consider between Mint and Cachy at this stage. I originally liked the look of Zorin, but these two are much more attractive.
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>>109710509
>i couldn't mount a fucking ntfs usb drive unless i went back to winshit and did a disk check there because it had flipped some stupid badblocks thing on and wouldn't let me turn it off.
lmao didn't read the manpage
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>>109717185
Do you have more than one monitor? And do they have different refresh rates?
If you do, you will have issues in game with Mint. Different refresh rates will cause stutters even tho if you turn on your fps counter it will appear stable.
To circumvent this you will either need to turn one of the monitors off or install gamescope, which isn't in official Mint repos so that means additional not noob-friendly fuckery.
TL;DR: if you have 2 or more monitors, go with Cachy and pick KDE for desktop enviroment.
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>>109717087
It's fine, but you'll likely desire more up to date packages, and if you value up to date packages, and stability, you will likely find yourself landing on Fedora; Only downside of Fedora, is you'll probably need to use RPMFussion and a few flatpaks.
>>109716743
I imagine the majority of viruses are going to be on Arch based systems and downloaded by people using the AUR.
Setup your firewall, and don't install random shit.
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>>109716743
If everything works fine on mint then don't distrohop, even less to meme garbage like cachyos
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>>109717087
Using Mint is basically like using a distro from a decade ago. If that's your thing then go for it, but regular Ubuntu or Bazzite/Aurora would be a better choice.
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>>109717151
The problem with noobs getting into Arch is they won't/can't learn how to read pkgbuilds.
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>>109717552
i read pkgbuilds and don't use aur helpers. packaged some things for myself including simple patches for my unmaintained window manager, but i am still retarded and barely know how to use linux
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got my first commit to the linux kernel merged into main, lets go boys!
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>>109717540
Supposedly Lubuntu comes with LXQT and zram enabled by default; Then you just remove snapd and you have a decent OS. Still not as good as setting up arch with linux-lts and lightdm with lxqt and zram.
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>>109717794
>grok, find an issue with his stupid code
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>>109717795
>LXQT
Meme DE.
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>>109717873
Works great for older hardware, from my experience.
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I have been sabotaging my windows auto update to shitty copilot version by having C: drive too full to not be able to download the new version. I know moving to linux will be a pain in the ass but i'm just tired of microshit shenanigans.

the last time i used linux it was on my brother's pc, dont know the distro, all i know is that i used to play x-evil and the GUI was Window Maker.

Now im browsing for a linux distro. there's so many i'm not even sure where to start and this is the point where I linger on the most. last time i tried to change to linux there was this competition between pop os and manjaro, so i didnt choose anything.

Maybe i'll try bazzite. omarchy seems too niche
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>>109718090
Omarchy is just Arch with a pre-set up Hyprland desktop, though it's more well known for the creator's beliefs then anything now.
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>>109717087
Mint is outdated
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>>109718239
>>109717087
Mint = latest Ubuntu LTS + green theme.
>>109717105
Arch has no proper installer, hence the reputation of being difficult. The system itself is your typical old binary distribution, similar to Ubuntu/Mint or Fedora or Debian or what have you.
>>109717151
>you have *nothing* on fresh install, you need to install everything yourself
This. And noobs sometimes think the whole system is broken or whatever as it never occurred to them that Wi-Fi tools for example are an extra package. (seen that argument here)
>>109714242
>Pop OS
Now that's just Ubuntu.
>Slackware
The only use case for Slackware is offline use.
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>>109718293
>>Mint = latest Ubuntu LTS + green theme.
It's not that simple, Mint doesn't provide the Ubuntu DE (GNOME), and no KDE either for that matter. This is the main reason Mint is outdated, they don't have to manpower to maintain their own DE(s)
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>>109718090
Idk if you already know this or not, but all the windows updates installation fix stay locally on the disk, so if you use the disk clean-up and allow it to delete all of those installation files, and also delete all your system restore files and create a new system restore file, you should have quite a lot of disk space freed up from that.
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I’m thinking about moving my gaming laptops to Linux eventually because windows is getting more invasive would there be any issues it’s a ge76 raider and a legion 5i 16IAX10 would there be any issues?
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I think qt is pretty cute^^
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>>109717087
Yeah mint is ok.
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I switched from win10 directly to arch manual install with sway 4 months ago.

Is it normal that I feel fomo? I feel like I should be distro hopping, but everything works and I am happy with my 1.1 GB Setup.
Everyone talks about Omarchy/Hyprland this, CachyOS/KDE that, systemd bad as well.
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>>109718293
>Mint
>latest Ubuntu LTS
Nope. Mint is usually months behind the latest LTS release. They're still based on 24 LTS instead of 26 LTS.
>green theme
It is not. That would imply they're using GNOME or at least KDE which are the 2 standard (yes, standard) desktop environments. They're using their own outdated knockoff version of GNOME.
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>>109714242
>Void
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>>109720169
Don't pay attention to shills and schizos, especially in this board. If it works, then it works.
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>>109714242
LFS is like the subsistence farming of linux distros
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>>109717794
great anon, hope you keep it up with better commits in the future
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>>109712823
>Package managers aren't the ones getting assfucked by LLM scrapers 24/7.

You sure? Debian thinks I'm ai when using the nearest repo.
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>>109720279
Why are they like this?
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>>109720339
You're not secure, anon.
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>>109720600
Not all repos offer https. The package integrity is checked with the system release file signing key anyway (using apt).
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>>109717087
Mint is slop, pretty sure it still leaks memory, just use ubuntu or fedora.
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>>109720802
It is bloated. Every package is manually installed so removing something like libreoffice leaves a lot of unused dependencies. Obviously it's designed that way because of new users.
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>>109720846
This is why i love dnf and it's dnf history command.
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>>109719048
>>109719048
Anyone? An answer would be appreciated
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>>109720860
apt will get that eventually. You have to use nala or synaptic if you really crave keeping a history log of installs and removals.
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>>109720988
>would there be any issues
very unlikely. you can always dual boot for a while to check if everything works though
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>>109720588
mental illness not allowed to resolve itself to its logical conclusion (change of behavior or suicide), propped up by western psychiatry
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so in the roughly two weeks i was back on windows they update the linux AMD drivers to support HDMI 2.1 so they are always just making this better meanwhile windows was struggling to install an update
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im new to linux. i wanna try out gentoo linux because it looks really cool but i heard its really hard to install. where do i start?
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>>109720988
check the archwiki
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>>109721301
The wiki
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>>109719048
Depends on the model. Some have various driver problems, but the only way to really check is to try it out and see what goes wrong. Give CachyOS, Arch, or Fedora a try and see if it werks outta the box since those tend to have the latest firmware drivers.
Also, which idiot came up with the model naming scheme, It's like fucking mirror world calling your shit 5i instead of i5 Intel shit or whatever.
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>>109720169
Don't feel bad, what you should do is make sure you really tuned your Arch install for gaming if that's your purpose. It's actually easy to turn your kernel into the zen kernel gaming distros use.
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>>109721289
>3 different monitor companies
At least put them in alphabetical order, damn it.
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>>109721227
>>109721309
>>109721366
Thanks for the answers I probably won’t try this for a few months to early next year if I do I’ll probably come back here then last question is dual boot complicated?
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>>109721410
if you can follow a guide correctly then no
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>>109721410
Again, it depends. This time, it depends on user skill vs. how locked down your pre-built hardware is.
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I reformatted a drive and now I can't mount it to the same location, I can mount it to any new location but using the same /mnt/ location just makes Gnome Disks hang up and not do anything. Any solutions?

I tried going into admin mode and deleting the folder in the /mnt/ location but that didn't solve anything. I'm guessing the system has saved some information about it being in use. I changed the filesystem on the drive while formatting so that might have played a part. I have tried restarting the computer.
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>>109721750
I edited out the old entry in fstab and it works now
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>>109720169
Omarchy is literally astroturfed junk. They're just handing out bags to people to shill it.
Hyprland is very good, but there are niche issues that just don't exist on KDE. I do prefer it to Sway though because it has some features Sway refuses to implement and its window management feels slightly better.
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>>109720169
>Omarchy
it's just a bunch of dotfiles on top of arch linux and hyprland, you can easily configure all this stuff on your own
>Hyprland
it's good, but if you don't need anything specific that sway doesn't already do for you then there's probably no point switching
>CachyOS
an os made for gaymers (i think?) switching from windows who want something that just werks with all the latest and greatest that wine/proton have to offer. pretty much all that it has can be configured on base arch also, you're missing out on nothing here
>KDE
you can install it with literally a single command if you want to try it. no need to switch your whole distro
>systemd bad
yes but also no. i'm saying this as a systemd-hater, if you don't know why systemd is disliked then don't even bother.
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Fuck flatpak btw.
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every linux distro should have a checksum check at the start of the live usb
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>>109720588
They're gay. Use Artix and pray the gay away.
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>>109707925
Come home Aryan man
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Is there something like simplewall for Linux?
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>>109720317
Does a guidebook count as a distribution?

>>109721930
Obviously you'd want to remove the redundant entry regardless of Gnome Disks crashing or not.

>>109721301
>really hard to install
You mean the process of booting to a terminal, formatting a drive, putting a Linux system in there and making it bootable? That's actually very generic and you can install ANY distribution like that, even Ubuntu or Fedora, anything.
The only really hard part of Gentoo was that you had to make yourself a custom kernel in the middle of the installation process but now they provide you a generic precompiled desktop-suitable kernel for modern hardware. Besides that you can practise doing custom kernels with your current installation, kernels work universally.
>where do i start
Click "Get started" and then "Gentoo Handbook" from their web page.
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>>109723611
>Obviously you'd want to remove the redundant entry regardless of Gnome Disks crashing or not.
How the fuck should I know that you have to do that when reformating a drive? Why the fuck is not doing that on its own if it's the same drive?
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>>109720279
>this description of me is too accurate
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>>109723303
>dude just check EVERY SINGLE FILE on the disk
You do realize this would make installations take days if not weeks on some hardware?
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>>109717237
I swore off Arch after seeing the malicious software get through so much for now. I hope to return to them when things get safer.
For now it is Ubuntu or Fedora based systems for me.
How's Fedora/Ubuntu innate security? I think mint has a firewall but I'm not sure about Fedora KDE or Bazzite KDE. Maybe they are there but I missed them.
>>109717322
I haven't tried a drawing tablet yet so maybe I might have to move to Bazzite or regular Fedora because I saw a FOSS using artist of a webcomic recommend it because I'm a mindless Windlet who moved here because he couldn't stand Microsoft's W11 problems.

>other stuff
What are some nice programs to download music off soundcloud, spotify and Youtube videos so I can make them into an offline running playlist to listen to? What's the best Ubuntu/Fedora working program for music playing?

If my hardware allows it, what are the best temperature monitors for a display on my wallpaper that measures my PC's temperatures for Ubuntu/Fedora?
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>>109717906
Is LXQT less resource intensive than XFCE while using modern programming language? It makes me wonder why Linux gamers don't use it more if it uses less resources so their hardware can get those extra frames for maximum gaming. Maybe the difference is negligible versus a KDE DE as supposedly KDE uses more resources but not that much if that makes sense.
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>>109724252
fedora does it in one or two minutes. i found a faulty usb stick like that.
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>>109723521
Opensnitch
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>>109722356
>an os made for gaymers (i think?)
hey hey hey
there are lesbians not using debian playing on cachyos
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>>109695187
>>109695210
Turn out this didn't fully fix the problem.
$ wpctl list audio sinks
49 alsa_output.pci-0000_11_00.4.analog-stereo audio/sink *
52 alsa_output.pci-0000_11_00.4.iec958-stereo audio/sink
$ pactl get-default-sink
alsa_output.pci-0000_11_00.4.analog-stereo


Yet, audio is still blaring out my sound bar in Firefox which I have configured to use JACK. I think it's connecting to wrong thing by default. It never used to do that.

Maybe I'll try patching Firefox with PipeWire support instead.
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>>109723713
>How the fuck should I know that you have to do that when reformating a drive?
Interesting. How did you not know? Did the installer create the entry perhaps?
>Why the fuck is not doing that on its own if it's the same drive?
fstab is a completely manual thing, people edit it on their own.
Pro tip: add a "nofail" option case the filesystem in question is non-critical.
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I have a Linux router that masquerades IPv4 traffic (I have no IPv6) from interface0 to interface1 using NFtables. How do I make it output fancy graphs and data regarding my internets traffic?
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>>109725593
Put netdata and ntopng on it
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I can't see video thumbnails in web browser file picker on Fedora KDE. Other thumbnails show fine. What do?
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>>109725912
Replace stock ffmpeg and ffmpegthumbnailer with rpmfusion versions?
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Anyone have bluetooth issues with CachyOS or know a solution?

I have an 8bitdo and Dual Sense and both have issues. 8bitdo will work for a few minutes then spaz out with random inputs and delay. The Dual Sense will connect and do absolutely nothing. Under Windows 10 years ago there were issues, but on Endeavor and an older version of Mint they have worked fine, used them for many games. But for Mint I had to rollback BT packages for awhile because they started having issues and eventually that solution stopped working as Mint updated beyond those packages and it also had other issues like freezing with certain programs on at once, Cinnamon having problems in general, and using a different UI making it shit itself every decent number of updates, thus the move to CachyOS which has been good overall.

But I have no idea what this connection issue mess is. I do also have a cheapo adapter I could try but I'm not sure which device is the motherboard and which is the dongle and if that really would fix it. I could try to unplug the one but its less than easy to get to. Its a really weird issue but the miss inputs are very noticeable and the other just doesn't do shit at all. Nothing I've found seems to fix it, which was mostly redo the connection, turn on visibility, turn on touchpad/kb options so it doesn't see the dual sense as a touch pad, but neither work right still.

Life has been balls I just want to play some old PS1 games.
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Question on partitioning and trying a new distro; I'm planning on using a 4TB SSD as my main boot, completely fresh as of right now and about to put a new install on it. When I partition it, if I section off 512GB-1TB of it for the install and leave the rest partitioned, can I just wipe that portion and do a different distribution down the line and keep the data as-is on the rest of the drive?

For example, say I start on Cachy and partition it like that. Fuck around with Fedora or Arch or whatever on a live boot, decide to do that instead. Already have games or media or whatever on the remaining 3TB partition. On an install, can I just wipe the one partition and install the new distro, or am I just fucked and have to wipe it all every time?
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>>109727336
Long as you pay attention during the partitioning of the install that should be possible. It is best to have a dedicated data partition and then set it to mount at start up with regular user access using /etc/fstab. A separate /home may be feasible too.
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>>109727336
>When I partition it, if I section off 512GB-1TB of it for the install and leave the rest partitioned, can I just wipe that portion and do a different distribution down the line and keep the data as-is on the rest of the drive?
you only need to wipe the root partition if you want to use a different distro. i'd recommend putting /home on a different partition, that way your root partition(s) as you distro hop will only need about 50-80G of space, not 512G-1T, and it will be trivial to preserve your data without having to move your /home every time you change distros
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>>109722356
>>CachyOS
CachyOS's packages are compiled for modern CPUs (x86-64-v3), and it makes a difference compared to using generic x86 packages sometimes. Everything else they modify can be easily achievable or added on top of vanilla Arch.
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>>109727883
>and it makes a difference compared to using generic x86 packages sometimes
[citation needed], all the benchmarks i've seen of the supposed cachyos speedups are basically within the margin of error
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>>109709256
>>109710306
>>109713174
So similar note on my end, jumping over fully now that I have time on the three day weekend. SSD as a main boot, but everything else I have is NTFS. Most of it is longer term storage, but frankly, this sounds spotty enough that I'm just going to buy another HDD (Fucking AI prices), and format that for Linux.

Big question, I'm going to rip a whole 2 and 1TB drive over to it. What's the most efficient way to transfer from Windows to the new Linux HDD? I'll keep Windows on an old drive, so other question, is it even possible to take files off a fat-format and send it back over to an NTFS? Only from the Linux side, can't read it on Windows at all, right?
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>>109728030
Then try for yourself. Remember to use a post-2013 or so chip
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>>109728093
so no benchmarks then, alrighty
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>>109727418
>>109727604
>Separate /home

Oh, shit, duh, that solves that. For some reason I forgot that was even an option after years and years on Windows. So really, I'd probably be safe with even just a 100-256GB partition for the distro and keep /home on the larger partition. Dope.

Out of curiosity, are there any distros that would break that or anything, immutables? Would that cause any performance gaps since what I'd be running isn't technically on root?
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>>109727883
It makes very little difference in day-to-day use. Also other distros are starting to do the same. Ubuntu is compiling packages specifically for modern processors starting with Ubuntu 26.
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>>109728186
>Out of curiosity, are there any distros that would break that or anything, immutables?
no, pretty much all distros support separate /home partitions (or any other folders, it's just a mount that you put into /etc/fstab, anything can run that). maybe there are some uber exotic distros which don't let users mount folders for some reason, but 100% of the ones recommended for desktop use will support this use case
>Would that cause any performance gaps since what I'd be running isn't technically on root?
no
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windows migrant with 4gb ram 1.6ghz intel dual core and 114vram also intel
which distro and DE do you recommend so that i can have a working laptop? keeping in mind i have never touched a terminal or even html in my life
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>>109723611
>but now they provide you a generic precompiled desktop-suitable kernel for modern hardware
I feel like that gets rid of half the point of using Gentoo
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>>109728813
any distro will work, mint is good if you haven't used linux before. as for desktop environment: xfce/lxqt, stay away from wayland, kde, gnome
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>>109728853
isnt mint systemd? and isnt xfce switching to wayland soon?
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>>109728813
my kid has a similar machine. just install cachyos and gnome (wayland is the default and you want wayland, not xorg) on it. ignore tards who say it won't be enough. it works fine, you can run gnome in about 1.5gb ram. cachy is highly resource efficient.
>>109728853
shit advice homie
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>>109728046
yes, you don't want to rely on ntfs if you're switching to linux (and you should move to linux for various reasons).
you can move files between 2 different filesystems even on windows (as long as both are supported), you can definitely do so on linux, but long term just move your drives over to either fat32 or ext4 or even btrfs.
not really sure what you mean by efficient, just transfer using FTP over a LAN or whatever you normally would do.
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>>109728868
isnt cachy an update heavy OS? im looking for something stable
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>>109728933
>update heavy OS
it's a rolling release like arch. but you're never forced to update. you can change the frequency of how often it will prompt for updates,
https://github.com/CachyOS/cachy-update#usage
you shouldn't need to update for like 4 months once you install it, or ever really. its your choice.
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>>109728813
DEs and distros only start mattering once you go below 4GB. You can technically squeeze ~350 extra MBs by using something like openbox or icewm instead of KDE/GNOME/etc., but it's not really worth it unless you're fine with a subpar desktop experience.

Also don't listen to the other guy. Xfce isn't that much lighter than a properly configured KDE Plasma, and LXQt is extremely fucking shit.
Wayland hatred is a pushed meme. You should use Wayland unless there is some weird compatibility bug with your hardware. X11 was effectively abandoned by every single developer a decade ago except one autistic guy who wanted to keep it alive.

If you're too lazy to configure your distro/DE to be lighter, there's a handful of popular projects which aim to provide as light of an experience as possible out of the box: AntiX, MX Linux, Q4OS, or in an extreme case TinyCoreLinux.

>>109728933
Updates aren't forced on Linux. You can check for updates at your own pace.
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>>109728955
>Also don't listen to the other guy. Xfce isn't that much lighter than a properly configured KDE Plasma, and LXQt is extremely fucking shit.
>Wayland hatred is a pushed meme. You should use Wayland unless there is some weird compatibility bug with your hardware. X11 was effectively abandoned by every single developer a decade ago except one autistic guy who wanted to keep it alive.
this
so fucking tired of xorgniggers, just shoot those cunts.
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>>109728955
im down to configure kde if its that light, but is this a gui thing or am i gonna have to copypaste a bunch of stuff into command prompt
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>>109728998
just install cachyos/gnome like i said, yes it comes with a GUI installer. it's very easy. there's a reason many people are making the switch.
it's essentially a very nice arch.
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>>109728955
>Xfce isn't that much lighter than a properly configured KDE Plasma
I've never seen this shown in practice
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>>109729019
you just shouldn't be using xfce anymore unless you really know why you're using it, which means if you're asking if you should use it or not, you shouldn't use it. it's basically abandonware. the only real DE choices now are KDE and GNOME. the rest are trash and not worth anyone's time, espeically anyone with a modern machine i.e. post-2014.
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>>109725612
It's a Gentoo router lmao, those ones would require me to switch to testing packages. I'll just see what happens when I try to manually compile from sources instead.
>>109728834
Kernel = half of your binaries? But yes, it feels counter intuitive to not have a custom kernel with a Gentoo setup. Then again it's a piece of software with literal hundreds if not thousands of yes/no/module options so lets give them some slack.
And on the other hand one could do a custom kernel BEFORE installing Gentoo... (why don't they?)
>>109728865
>isnt mint systemd
Why would a Windows migrant want some hardly supported neckbeard init system? Only valid reason to avoid systemd is when it bugs you personally.
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>>109729045
>Why would a Windows migrant want some hardly supported neckbeard init system? Only valid reason to avoid systemd is when it bugs you personally.
kek
honestly man
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>>109729029
>you just shouldn't be using xfce anymore
oh I tend to agree, I've just never seen anyone actually back up the claim that KDE can go as low as Xfce, ever. it's an immense DE by design
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>>109729004
alright, its just that i heard gnome was more like a tablet ui than a windows desktop ui

>>109729045
OP says systemd bad, im just following the example here
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>>109729058
it probably can. i use KDE myself on my machine. i'm the guy saying i installed GNOME for my kid who loves it because it's so basic.
>>109729064
>alright, its just that i heard gnome was more like a tablet ui than a windows desktop ui
kek it is. but that's why it's fucking good.
it just werks. if you try it and you hate it then sure, install KDE. GNOME is a great DE for someone switching from winshit though.

also systemd just lets you get shit done. it's not bad. idc about the gay politics of this board. i'm a person who is interested in getting shit done. systemd is fucking effective.
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>>109729029
>you just shouldn't be using xfce anymore
Don't listen to any more trash from this dumpster.

>>109729045
>Why would a Windows migrant want some hardly supported neckbeard init system?
He's based from the womb.
He should start with gentoo + openrc.
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>>109729086
>He should start with gentoo + openrc.
kys retard
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i realized gentoo was a retard filter (in the sense that it filters *in* retards) when i saw twitter women talking about installing it
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>>109728865
>isnt mint systemd?
you didn't specify that you didn't want systemd (and OP is retarded)
>isnt xfce switching to wayland soon?
they're gonna support wayland, not switch to it
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>>109728998
You can do everything in the GUI. Your problem will mostly be finding these settings since Plasma has a billion different menus and submenus. Not only are there DE-wide settings you can change to make the DE lighter, each KDE app also has its own in-depth settings.

Considering you don't want too many monthly updates, you might as well use Kubuntu LTS (just make sure to delete and disable snaps, as they're too heavy of a concept for old computers).
Apparently KDE recently released an LTS version of the desktop and Kubuntu 26 is using it. Until very recently all "stable" distros had a shit implementation of KDE which was completely unsupported by KDE devs and maintainers. So the only good KDE experience was on Fedora, Arch, and their forks.

>>109729019
Disabling pointless shit like Baloo and the on-screen keyboard saves 200MB of committed memory. Preventing Discover from always being active in background saves some memory and processing power. Removing blur and shadows improves render latency. There's a bunch of other things you can do to save both memory and CPU cycles. You can definitely make KDE Plasma usable on toasters.
When I was testing out the "mainstream" distros, the ones with KDE Plasma used 1.2GB-1.5GB of memory idling, while the ones with Xfce used 0.9GB-1.3GB. Tweaking KDE Plasma to use less memory makes much more sense than using Xfce. At this point Xfce is kind of pointless as a DE since it is no longer as light as it was 5-10 years ago and it is not as functional as KDE/GNOME both of which can run on PCs with only 4GB of memory.
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kek, the OP has been like that for so long i forget some dipshit put that nosystemd site in there.
yeah, the alternatives to systemd are so great that all the major distros are now in the process of switching away from them to.... oh wait they're not.
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>>109729240
>Disabling pointless shit like Baloo
fucking hell, don't tell people to disable file indexing services. whats wrong with you people
no actually, that shit is very useful to people who just want to do shit on their system.
memory isn't *that* expensive that 200mb matters ffs.
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>>109729285
>don't tell people to disable file indexing services
I have never in my life used file indexing. It's simply annoying compared to using a file manager or a deliberate search function. When I open my app menu I want to see my apps, not my porn files or my project folders.
It doesn't even have anything to do with memory in my case, since my shitposting machine has 64GB of memory.
>200MB
>doesn't matter on a low RAM machine
Are you retarded? That's 5% of his total RAM for a feature most people don't use nor care about. Might as well tell him to load up a 1GB AI model to act as a desktop assistant.
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>>109729354
>I have never in my life used file indexing. It's simply annoying compared to using a file manager or a deliberate search function
you are a fucking moron. idk how people as stupid as you exist.
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>>109729255
>year 2030
>name of the thread:
>/frulswift/ - Friendly RustUtils/Linux/SystemD/Wayland/Immutable/Flatpak Thread
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>>109729378
would be an improvement. idc about a fat jew's obsession with being relevant. alpine works fine w/o gnu.
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>>109729366
I'm sorry to tell you, but you're in the minority of people who use this feature or care about it. The real retard is the person who thought "file indexing is a good idea and displaying files in the search results of an app menu makes sense!".
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>>109729429
how do you not end up using the search in dolphin if you have a lot of random assorted files you need to look up all the time?
i have a ton of game roms, utilities, etc. yeah i could use the command line but it's just convenient having a search function. sorry but i'm not in a minority. people do use the fucking search.
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>>109709884
Why are you toggling the off?
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>>109724291
>What are some nice programs to download music off soundcloud, spotify and Youtube videos so I can make them into an offline running playlist to listen to? What's the best Ubuntu/Fedora working program for music playing?
>If my hardware allows it, what are the best temperature monitors for a display on my wallpaper that measures my PC's temperatures for Ubuntu/Fedora?
Guys please? I don't know which to pick. And I don't know what hardware could allow my temps to be monitored and I don't know what the best program for downloading vids/music on Linux is.
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>>109729489
yt-dlp
spotify api and then run a python script against it
idk, just ask AI this kind of thing, cmon they make it easy enough that even you dumbs can handle it
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>>109729489
also pretty sure btop does temp monitoring
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Is there any way to get xscreensavers on Windows and vice versa? I love the LCD scrubber one.
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>>109729378
Systemd will always be "the thing" unless someone somewhere provides an easy to implement alternative for distribution developers.
Go ahead, start building the Linux From Scratch project and pick some rando init and you'll get it.
>>109729161
I'm using Gentoo like a retard.
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>>109729472
I organize my files into folders like a functioning adult.
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can someone help with downloading open tablet driver on cachyos
i cant figure this shit out for the life of me. im too retarded and new to linux
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>>109730209
most retard proof method i think is
 # Downloads the pkgbuild from the AUR.
git clone https://aur.archlinux.org/opentabletdriver.git
# Changes into the correct directory, pulls needed dependencies, then installs OpenTabletDriver
cd opentabletdriver && makepkg -si
# Clean up leftovers
cd ..
rm -rf opentabletdriver
# Regenerate initramfs
sudo mkinitcpio -P
# Unload kernel modules
sudo rmmod wacom hid_uclogic

and then
systemctl --user enable opentabletdriver.service --now

from https://opentabletdriver.net/Wiki/Install/Linux#manual-makepkg-method and https://opentabletdriver.net/Wiki/FAQ/Linux#systemd-autostart
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>>109729489
if you use gnome you can get the Vitals extension.
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>>109729089
>kys retard
lol you too :3
>>109729161
You should always let propaganda form your worldview anon, very based.
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>>109730261
NTA but why is initramfs involved in the process? I mean how's a writing tablet relevant for the boot process? I do compile my own kernels but never done out-of-tree modules.
>>109729354
Some file managers do make use of indexing.
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>>109730261
It didn't work and I got this as an error and err I tried the rest and got this
"
Failed to enable unit: Unit opentabletdriver.service does not exist "
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>>109730305
>NTA but why is initramfs involved in the process?
the package puts a file in /usr/lib/modprobe.d which blacklists wacom and hid_uclogic from loading in initramfs, otherwise they interfere

>>109730342
i don't know, i just tried building the driver on my own and it worked perfectly fine. i can't be arsed trying to debug microsoft's slop garbage tooling sorries
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>>109729240
>KDE Plasma used 1.2GB-1.5GB of memory idling, while the ones with Xfce used 0.9GB-1.3GB
I can quite easily get a full Xfce setup down to about 450MB. KDE with a lot of tweaking and removals goes down to just about 900MB. it's not even comparable
I'm sure I'll keep seeing more and more people say "you can get KDE as light as Xfce" though, there's no point arguing these days anymore
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>Bodhi has changed from Active to Dormant
It's over, isn't it...?
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>>109730446
I fail to see anyone ITT saying KDE and Xfce are exactly the same in terms of how light they are. The only thing that was said is they're close enough after some tweaks, but KDE being more functional is worth the extra 200-400 MB unless you're on something that has less than 4GB of RAM.
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>>109730466
my negro the writing was on the wall for bodhi for a while, it's incredible that it even lasted into 2026
forking an old build of enlightenment is borderline meth addict behavior
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I've been a windblows fag since Windows 95 and want to try a linux distro. I asked Chad G. Pete and it said Ubuntu was a good choice for my use case / hardware. But I read that SNAP can be a nightmare. Should I avoid Ubuntu because of this or just disable that shit and it's no biggy?

My shitty personality makes my prone to becoming a distro hopper and I'd rather avoid going down that road. Pls no bully, I didn't try Loonix before because I worked with Microsoft products.
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>>109731066
Use mint
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No install of an open source operating system is complete without a fresh install of Microsoft Edge. It's probably the better of the Chromium web browsers these days.
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>>109731089
This but LMDE.

>>109731066
Use Linux Mint Debian Edition. Install Flatpak to get newer apps.
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They are not a "corporate ready stability distro". They are part testing grounds for RHEL and part community distro. They use close to bleeding-edge packages and kernels. The do good testing, as I have contributed a lot over the years on, but it is nowhere near to the level of a RHEL or even ALMA, Rocky, etc. or even Dedbian/Ubuntu.

I say that as someone who really likes and has both used and contributed to Fedora over the last decade up until 2 years ago.
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>>109730788
>The only thing that was said is they're close enough after some tweaks
they aren't
>I fail to see anyone ITT saying KDE and Xfce are exactly the same in terms of how light they are
never said that. however,
>>109728955
>Xfce isn't that much lighter than a properly configured KDE Plasma
was already disproven
gonna default back to "there's no point arguing these days anymore" since KDE users don't tend to give up on topics like these
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>>109729045
>It's a Gentoo router lmao, those ones would require me to switch to testing packages. I'll just see what happens when I try to manually compile from sources instead.
Just add keywords for them in package.accept_keywords. You can also run them in Docker which is what I do on my custom x86_64 OpenWRT router.

Another option is something old-school looking like Munin:
https://munin-monitoring.org/
That has stable packages:
https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/net-analyzer/munin

Another good tool you can run is smokeping if you want a ping probe to measure latency, but that's also not packaged in Gentoo.
https://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/

I use the Linuxserver.io Docker image:
https://docs.linuxserver.io/images/docker-smokeping/
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>>109707925
Is Matrix a good option in 2016+10? I've been using Discord for a while exclusively to chat with a few normie friends who don't know any better, however last time I gave it a try (a few years ago, through the Element client on desktop and Schildichat on mobile) the experience was kind of mediocre, have things improved ever since?
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>>109731089
>>109731185
Alright looks like I'm going with LMDE
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>>109731185
whats better about LMDE?
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You guys will laugh at me but because of Linux I just learned that your file directory is not actually representative of where your files physically are.

I've always avoided massive restructures to my stored data because I thought it physically moved the data and was perplexed as to why moving files on a drive was practically instantaneous.

How did Linux do this? It made me more curious about how things work under the hood.
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>>109731554
hasn't this been the case since the inception of consumer operating systems? ask any boomer about defragging their hard drive
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>>109731560
I'm a millennial and used to defrag my windows XP machine. This is a hang over from that.
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>>109731554
It's kind of baked into the term Virtual File System
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>>109731596
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/File_systems
if you are a tinkertranny it is a fun rabbit hole to dig into
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>>109731554
every file on linux has a thing called an inode associated with it. it's a small integer which doesn't change when you rename or move files around, and this is what the filesystem keeps track of when you organize stuff into directories. your "folders" are actually just collections of inodes and names which then resolve to actual physical files somewhere on disk, they don't have to be arranged like a tree or w/e.
you can see it for yourself if you run `stat` on a file, then move or rename it - the operation is basically instant and the inode number will stay the same.
so when you rename a file or move it you're not moving any data, you're only moving the "pointer" to that data.
this is also why deleting files is instant, even if it's a massive file, because all that needs to change is a given containing directory dropping the reference to that file (and mark the physical blocks that the file used as free), if it's not referenced by anything it might as well not exist.
also it's not a linux thing, basically every os and filesystem works on the same principle of having names and directories only store references to files rather than the files themselves, including ntfs/windows
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So uh, after like 3 months I noticed that my fedora KDE installation on a 2tb hdd, only has 1.36 tb of space available, dunno what happened to the rest, this was after I had to reinstall everything due to a fuck up on my old installation, so uh, what did I mess up?
SMART is good btw
I'm not in NEED of the extra space right now, but I was wondering, so I avoid the same mistake if I ever do a fresh install again, which will probably happen
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>>109731677
use a disk space analyzer tool to see what's taking up all the space

if you don't mind using the terminal: install ncdu and run `sudo ncdu -x /`
if you don't like the terminal: install the filelight program and run it
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>used my TWS fine for a week
>suddenly br-connection-key-missing
so fucking annoying. what do i even do
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I was clearing out my old wireless connections on Lubuntu and I accidentally removed my wired connection, now my Ethernet doesn't work even though I'm directly plugged into the router.

I should not have been doing this at 4 AM and should have just left my file to download on wifi and gone back to sleep. Any help on fixing this connection would be welcome because I haven't used this laptop in a year.
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>>109731950
sudo nmcli device connect <DEV>
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>>109731931
if you used the same adapter to pair them somewhere else you just overwrote the key on the earplugs themselves
remove and repair
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>>109707925
Here's a real fucking stupid one for you: I have a few m3u playlist files that I want to load into a server running navidrome, but the file paths they currently contain refer to the local filesystem from my workstation, not the directory that navidrome is reading music files from.
What's the bash command/some gay gui utility for swapping every single instance of
Music/good media 2/

with
/mnt/nfs/25gSSDP1BACKUP/Music/good media 2
?
Assuming this is actually how I need to modify the m3u files to function - the general syntax of the files from the top is
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:,Song1
Music/good media 2/Song1.m4a
#EXTINF:,Song2
Music/good media 2/Song2.m4a
#EXTINF:,Song3
Music/good media 2/Song3.m4a
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>>109732053
sed -i.orig "s|Music/good media 2/|/mnt/nfs/25gSSDP1BACKUP/Music/good media 2/|" FILE
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>>109732053
>>109732098
See I'm actually retarded and made a critical error but didn't figure it out before you posted - the actual directory navidrome is scanning on the server is
/var/SSDP1/BACKUP/Music
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>>109732104
just replace the paths inside the command
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>>109732117
Anyone ever tell you you're a real groovy guy?
Cuz you are.
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>>109718200
what are his beliefs? standard TDS tranny guy?
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>>109728046
>Big question, I'm going to rip a whole 2 and 1TB drive over to it. What's the most efficient way to transfer from Windows to the new Linux HDD?
I just moved and pasted from NTFS to EXT4, then walked away for about an hour letting it do its thing. Windows usually doesn't read Linux file formats.
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>>109728933
Just because it's update heavy doesn't mean you have to update. You are given a choice, anon. This isn't windows where you defer, delay, and then all of a sudden whoops you're updated.
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>>109728998
>im down to configure kde if its that light, but is this a gui thing
Anon pls, this is KDE's "control panel." If you remember XP or 7, GUI is all you need.
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>>109729472
>how do you not end up using the search in dolphin if you have a lot of random assorted files you need to look up all the time?
That's what folders are for. If you really want to organize your shit, follow what librarians do, the dewey decimal system, customize it.
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>>109730342
Says right there to install the missing framework, that's a dependency that didn't get downloaded the first time. Follow that link and repeat the steps.
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>>109731677
Download Baobab, it should be available on your repo.
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>>109731490
>Just add keywords for them in package.accept_keywords
Tried it. Resulted in a never ending cycle to add more and more packages in there.
>Munin
Cool, trying that next.
>>109732494
>KDE
>Baobab
KDE's version is called Filelight.
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>>109731066
use cachyos. i will not elaborate.
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>>109732022
It worked, I have an Ethernet connection now, thank you anon
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>>109731512
You are going to regret listening to these cretins.
Ubuntu is fine, nothing wrong with snaps really other than that run on proprietary servers.
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I need some download manager recommendations for Debian-based distros. I've been trying to download an ISO through Librewolf overnight but it keeps periodically failing without auto retrying, which is commonly Firefox browser behavior for me.
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>>109733606
JDownloader2 is still king overall I'd say but there's others like XDM, Motrix and Persepolis.
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>>109733635
I'm asking cause I assume jdownloader isn't going to work on Linux
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>>109733651
No it has a version that runs on Linux IIRC
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>>109733651
it does work on linux
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First of all hello to everyone, we are going to be friendly, right.
I'm reading everything and it reminded me of the time that I wanted Linux instead of windows out of principle. I'm an older guy and probably knew about bill before some of you were born. I'm not a coder or programmer, I went to a technical school to learn a trade. I do not like the term " normie" ,because some don't work with linux. I seen people insult others with this while they are vaxed and boosted. Years i have tried linux, the last was Suse linux pro 9.0. I bought a box with 7 cd inside and it wasn't cheap. I just want to run my small company, read emails, make some excell and word files. Look up info etc. I'm not a gamer. I just want a cd to install like windows, i don't want to go to school to learn programming to be able to use my computer. 25 years have past and nothing . All my computers are on XP pro or win7 pro and it all runs smooth. I'm still waiting for an easy linux version that install without coding or programming skills. I use as much open software as possible like open office ,thunderbird etc. But i would like a smooth alternative OS for windows . At this moment linux doesn't have this, there is to much division, everyone wants to make their own versions. It's a pity because I think with AI it's possible to make a functional alternative.
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i am not reading all that
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>>109733872
just use fedora gnome or kde dude
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>>109733886
I'm having a look at the Fedora website and it certainly has changed . I will give it a try. I also see that a lot of people here use 2 OS on 1 computer. I have never done that. I do a complete format and install the new OS. Do you recommend to install Fedora on a win7 or formatting first. I have all the drivers of the hardware on both cd and card.
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>>109733872
If your computers are that old, you probably want to install arch or debian with lxqt; You can download installation images (.iso files) and copy/paste them over to a flash drive that has been formatted using Ventoy; Then boot to the flash drive to start the installation process. Fedora is better for modern hardware. Arch is more of a headache to get setup the way you want. I would go with Debian. Or you could try out Lubuntu, and remove snapd.
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>>109733872
Aurora Linux. You don't need to know anything other than work with the KDE Plasma UI and how to use an app store.

>>109733961
>I also see that a lot of people here use 2 OS on 1 computer
Very few people do this because it makes little sense and it's just asking for trouble unless you have separate drives for the separate OSs.
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>>109733872
The moment Fedora Atomic and Ublue came to be, Linux became the easiest OS to manage. I would agree with your statement if Atomic Linux didn't exist, but it does now. It's literally a zero maintenance system. I open my laptop and do stuff, I never have to care about the OS running underneath
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>>109733972
The computers that I use are considered old. My newest is 2013. I have a few that I build myself in the late 90's early 2000. I like them and how they work. We also have new comps, from this year, i don't like the new OS much, I can't do what i want, it doesn't allow many things ,alternative software. Debian,no thanks,I still have bad memories of this one. I can try Lubuntu. But I'm looking at a recent second hand laptop ,MSI Katana17, it's to connect to a TV , not for gaming but to view media, nothing more. I don't want windows on it. So probably Fedora will be good for this.
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>>109734020
I will look it up.
I thought that people installed linux next to a windows or over a existing OS.
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>>109734113
Thanks for that info. I think last time i tried working with Linux is ± 2012, so many things going on,kids,changing countries, starting new life, business, I just didn't have or want to spend time anymore on Linux. I was always hoping that one day i just buy a Linux cd ,install and click and play. I understand that it's a skill to be able to program and code but i don't have time. Much respect to do those who are able to do this, we are all different with different skills.
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>>109734118
Yeah, debian isn't too bad, once you add your username to the sudoers list via visudo, but Fedora should treat you well, I use it daily.
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>>109733961
never install windows and linux on the same drive, windows actively tries to be the only OS that can exist on a given drive.
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>>109725593
grafana?
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>>109733961
Just don't do this.
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>>109728955
In my experience xfce is much more lighter than kde plasma both ram usage and cpuusage.
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>>109731539
Its based on debian instead of ubuntu, and is also technically newer than regular mint since they havent released a version based on ubuntu 26.04 yet
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>>109734136
You can install it "over an existing OS", which is fine. But installing it next to windows on the same SSD/HDD will inevitably lead to issues.
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>>109734282
doesnt seem like a big difference to me
looking it up, the only real difference seems to be that lmde doesnt have the software manager
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>>109733872
>Debian
>Popos
>Mint
>Zorin
>CachyOS
>Fedora
These are all the big, popular beginner distros you can use without needing to use the terminal. Download the iso and flash it to a thumb drive with Rufus and leave it in. It's not hard, just back up anything important you want to keep to your google drive or an external drive because your PC is going to get wiped clean
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>>109734419
>CachyOS
>beginner

>PopOS
>popular
>usable

>Debian
>not needing a terminal

come on kiddo
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>>109734427
You're right

Gentoo it is
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>>109734384
the main appeal is that debian werks and never crashes whereas ubuntu updates always fuck something up somewhere
software manager is a loss but only for tech illiterates who would never use lmde anyway
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Hello, I'm building a PC for Linux, I could ask /pcbg/ but they are too retarded when it comes to these matters, so I will ask here:
I'm planning to do GPU-passthrough with my setup, I will go with an AMD CPU with integrated graphics + and AMD GPU to pass to my Qemu VM, I'm gonna be buying most of these parts used because I'm a poorfag, but my question is:
How do I make sure my motherboard has clean IOMMU grouping? Is there current motherboard I'm looking at is ASRock B450M/ac
Does Linux have driver support for legacy AMD GPUs? Can you control clocks and voltages on the GPU from Linux?
Are all AMD GPUs easier for GPU passthrough? is there any model specific info I should be aware of? Do I have to dump the VBIOS to Qemu like with Nvidia cards?
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>>109734537
>How do I make sure my motherboard has clean IOMMU grouping?
>ASRock B450M/ac
I would honestly just ask an AI this since that's the fastest way to get this information. Most motherboard manufacturers don't document this at all, so all you have to work with is information from online forums.
>Does Linux have driver support for legacy AMD GPUs?
Yes. Linux has better support for legacy AMD GPUs than Windows does.
>Can you control clocks and voltages on the GPU from Linux?
LACT
>Are all AMD GPUs easier for GPU passthrough? is there any model specific info I should be aware of?
They're all the same.
>Do I have to dump the VBIOS to Qemu like with Nvidia cards?
No.
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>>109734626
Thank you, I was able to find this site:
https://iommu.info/query/
It doesn't list the exact motherboard I want, but I guess similar models should have similar IOMMU groups, right?
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>>109734639
Depends on what you mean by "similar models". If it is the same thing but without "/ac" at the end then you're fine. Worst case scenario is your integrated WiFi/BT will be passed alongside the GPU.
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>>109733872
it's best to stick with the most popular distros to start off. Amongst them you can try the beginner distros. Know the popular ones are popular for a reason. I see from your comments you had bad experience with Debian, you can try Ubuntu or Kubuntu (if you prefer KDE over Gnome), or Fedora or Mint Cinnamon.

You look at screenshots on the distro's webpage and see what you desktop environments you like (KDE, Gnome, Cinnamon, XFCE, etc). Once you're ready to try it out you don't need to install it, just use Belena Etcher or Rufus to make a bootable usb key and boot from it and try a live linux distro like that before installing it.

Even with the most beginner friendly distros you still occasionally have to use the terminal to troubleshoot, or edit some config files. It's really not that complicated. LLMs can help a lot if you have questions concerning linux but it's best to understand what commands it's telling you to enter before you enter it.

If you've been on Linux for years but still feel it's complicated or only for programmers, it ultimately doesn't matter that much if you mess up your distro trying things at first, there's a normal starting time where you learn things out and will probably bork an install at some point.

As for dual booting, it's best to have Windows installed first on one drive and then install Linux second on a second drive. Windows doesn't play well with other OSes installed on the same drive.
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Arch live ISO should contain nmtui like Gentoo. iwctl is a humiliation ritual. You have to look up the commands unless you happen to use it daily for some reason. On that note, Gentoo should recommend cfdisk instead of parted. TUIs are better for these use cases.
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>>109713201
>tfw eyes are too old for artwiz
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>>109734537
>How do I make sure my motherboard has clean IOMMU grouping?
Check archwiki iommu article for the bash script and run that
If you ever plan on using the amd gpu on your host system i wouldnt recommend getting an amd cpu with integrated graphics
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>>109735133
>Check archwiki iommu article for the bash script and run that
He's trying to get this info before buying a motherboard, not after the fact.
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Does anyone in here run Waydroid?
I upgraded from Kernel 7.2.2 to Kernel 7.2.3 with the same config as before (make oldconfig with default values) and suddenly Waydroid complains that binder is missing.
What happened here?
Do I need to compile the Rust version of the driver instead or something?
I guess I'll stay on 7.2.2 for the time being.
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>>109735174
I do, but I'm still on kernel 7.1.5 which works fine. I don't see any bug reports specific to the 7.2.3 kernel on the Waydroid github. Report it and see if they respond.
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>>109735174
Sounds like a distro issue. Binder isn't needed by anything else and it used to be completely disabled by default since it's entirely Android specific. It wasn't even merged into the mainline kernel into a few years ago.
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>>109734113
Ublue distros are all bloated and require crazy amounts of RAM.
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>>109733872
I think you should go with ubuntu, you can use eock to panel extension if you don't like the mac look. Lot of the software is on flatpak now so om all distros.
Also there are some youtube channels which cater to that kind of thing, one I know is "low tech linux."
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>>109735343
In my experience it's not a problem. I game and browse the web with multiple tabs on Bluefin with 8GB.
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>>109725912
I finally fixed this issue. I had to go into Dolphin configuration Previews tab and increase the size limit for Remote Storage. Not sure why the file picker viewed videos as remote storage.
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>>109729472
If I want to search something, I use 'find', you retarded faggot.
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>>109735174
>>109735251
>>109735310
SCHED_ALT (which is a new option) deselects PSI which is apparently required for Waydroid to run according to some old issues.
Time to revert that, I guess.
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https://github.com/fralapo/Disable-BD-PROCHOT-on-LINUX
what's the danger of running this with an underpowered psu?
i had a chinese psu but that burned down so now im trying to run it off of a phone charger that has a little bit less power than the laptops original charger
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>>109735653
That's a charger not the PSU. The worst that can happen is your laptop turns off.
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>>109735343
>1.5GB
>crazy amounts of RAM
How poor are you?
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>>109735013
wpa_supplicant and fdisk/gdisk are pretty easy to use
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>>109735792
If it's using more than 1GB of RAM on boot then it's bloated no matter how many sticks you own.
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>>109735792
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>>109731539
It's stable because of Debian's base. You probably won't ever need to reinstall LMDE.
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>>109735457
This was indeed the issue and reverting back to PSI fixed everything.
If anyone in the archive ever has the same issue with Waydroid.
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>>109736265
You really think you're proving your point with this image? Learn what the "minimum & recommended requirements" actually mean. Hint: nothing at all.
I've actually tested and used these distros and they all idle at 1.2GB-1.5GB, with the exception of Bazzite where the Steam client takes up an additional 1GB.
You're blatantly lying when you're saying "they need a crazy amount of RAM". Which doesn't surprise me as this is typical Linux user behavior, always talking out of your ass spreading misinformation despite having no clue what you're talking about.

What that table displays is simply the common sense minimum requirements for a functional (normal) PC in the current year. It already accounts for the bloatware apps that an average person is using.
It makes no sense for a distro to boldly claim "1-2GB is the minimum requirement and 2-4GB is the recommended requirement", when an average normie will have 5GBs consumed by their browser, office suite, messaging platforms and file manager. Yes, you can run Arch, Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, uBlue, even fucking Android with just 2GB of memory. But at that point the OS has no memory left for things most people actually care about.
For example, Debian states the minimum requirement for their desktop is 1GB, with 2GB being "recommended". This is "technically correct", but functionally incorrect and a blatant lie. Just try selling 2GB PCs pre-loaded with Debian and you'll be met with an angry mob of normies complaining their PC is slow, freezing and crashing. Whether people behind Debian like it or not, the real "recommended" memory for a Debian desktop is also 16GB.

Again, Bluefin also recommends 128 GB of storage as a minimum, despite clearly stating that the OS consumes only 11GB and another 11GB should be reserved for updates. They could lie like Debian does and claim "you can run this OS with 25GB of storage", but why the fuck do that? Why lie about the reality of modern software and media?
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I'm looking for a /public repository where to download any old & deprecated gentoo livecd images.. 2010-2018 era
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New thread
>>109738292
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I asked in the stupid questions thread but not luck, so I'll try here
Is there a fix for this?:
>folders sorted in various ways
>enters the folder
>searches
>press "go back"
>folders are all sorted by name A-Z
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I love GNU/Linux so much <3 <3
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Overhauled my entire movie collection organising them into folders, rsync wants to do a full rewrite.



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