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Was just about to bake this myself lol.
>>109759951
>Neither can gracefully handle system updates between point releases
I just spun up Debian 12 in a VM and upgraded to Debian 13 without any bugs, but it did take a really long time. I wonder if you could switch between Debian and Ubuntu bases without reinstalling?

>>109768861
Thank you baker.
I'm enjoying my time in Zorin OS. I was sick of my LTSC IoT Windows 10, and I don't play many games any more, so I installed it two weeks ago. I primarily browse the net and do a lot of document writing, so it's been really good for me.
I'll likely distro hop as time progresses to have a gander at the other ones out there.

>>109768889
>just spun up Debian 12 in a VM and upgraded to Debian 13 without any bugs
Updating the OS as it comes out of the box is different from updating an OS that was previously used. You're missing hundreds of packages that people would slap onto their computers to get their apps.
Also, using 10 terminal commands just to upgrade an OS is not a "graceful" way of doing updates. Even Windows isn't this bad.

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>>109769049
Starting in the Ubuntu ecosystem is very much a right of passage for most starting Linux users, but over time you'll start to want to check out how an Arch distro feels or a Fedora distro. I was the same way and I ended up on Arch and am very happy.

>>109769049
>>109769193
The Ubuntu ecosystem is not as unusable these days because we now have Snap, Flatpak and Appimage.

Hey guys new to Linux, is there a good webkit based browser for Linux?

I've checked out GNOME Web, didn't really like it, I've also tried Orion but it was really slow and crashed on a lot of sites like Youtube. Thanks a lot in advance.

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liking lxqt so far
t. always used gtk desktops
>>109769319
oh that reminds me, i should test out falkon >picrel oh nevermind guess ill still try it

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>>109769319
>good webkit based browser for Linux?
No. They are all significantly slower than everything that is Chromium-based or even Firefox-based.

>>109769193
>>109769049
>ecosystem
>Arch
NTA but Arch feels like there's no ecosystem at all, it's just so plain. Unless you start using the AUR, I never did so idk how that feels like.
>>109769189
>using 10 terminal commands just to upgrade an OS is not a "graceful" way of doing updates
You update the sources.list file, update the package lists and then perform the actual update. That's like one file edit plus two commands. Am I missing something?

>>109770062
>and then perform the actual update
Apparently with Debian you're not meant to do a "full upgrade" until everything else is already upgraded. Dunno how true that is. I could spin up another VM to test your theory if you're interested.

>>109770062
>Am I missing something?
The ability to simply click a single "Update" button which does all of this shit for you? You know, like a non-shit OS would?

>>109770257
Doing the same thing by clicking a button isn't any more or less graceful.
>>109770146
>you're not meant to do a "full upgrade" until everything else is already upgraded
I have no idea what all that means.

>>109770146
>>109770062
I have decided to run another test:
>Install Debian 12.15
>Immediately change apt sources from bookworm to trixie
>Click update in Discover
It's been on 0% for a while now. I'll leave it running overnight (I live in Ausfailia)

>>109770291
>I have no idea what all that means.
I think a "full upgrade" upgrades not just existing packages but installs new ones as well.

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>>109769956
>or even Firefox-based
Stuff just works, how I'm supposed to notice the slowness?
I've been using Firefox just because it blocks ads out of the box while Chromium doesn't. And getting ANY Chromium fork involves getting it somewhere else than the official repositories and I'm being massively lazy and stupid for all that.
What fork I'm even supposed to use?

everyone was telling me how good is gaming on Linux. I installed cachyOS and my Asus TUF laptop is constatnly overheating, when I use balanced or performance mode. It's overheating even on internet browser.

I tested fans in bios, and they can run some crazy speeds I never saw on linux. I installed ROG control center,cooler control, mangohud, and fans are not responding to anything I do. They even tell me that I cannot do anything.

How do I make it work and not fry my laptop every time I try to play anything?

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RAM compression, is it ever worth it? I get performance benefits from zstd:1, so it's a nobrainer to use it. Is there a equivalent for RAM? I heard zram or zswap or whatever it was reduces SSD wear, which sounds nice. But idk which or what to use, they are all confusing.

>>109771795
Try limiting the clock speed with cpupower

I'm guessing your shitty laptop doesn't expose shit properly like other Asus laptops. This isn't really specific to CachyOS, you'd see this on any kernel but most of them default to powersave or on-demand governor rather than performance so you could try that too.

>>109771836
Swap on Zram is the standard for this because it doesn't require a backing device to work. You can enable Zswap if you already have a swap file or partition though but you shouldn't use both.

>>109771859
So of the both, both do the same thing of swappy stuff good but in different ways?

>>109771848
I saw some old thread on asus forum that ask why rog settings are being overwitten. Asus support just told them to install windows.

So I assume that it is an issue with ausus and linux overall. I like linux, but I feel like every time I think I fix one problem 2 more pop up, that need some knowledge I don't have at the moment so I need to learn

>>109771874
There are some differences but Zram doesn't require swap on disk at all. So if your goal is specifically reducing SSD wear then your option is Zram.

Zswap still writes to the SSD it is just compressing and decompressing it. There is more nuance to it than that but if you want zero SSD wear then Zram it is.

Just get rid of your existing swap file or swap partition after you setup whatever Zram generator you use. Don't have both swap on Zram and swap on disk. Choose one or the other.

>>109771895
Yes. Shit's a mess. All of the drivers for Asus hardware are community maintained. Asus contributes nothing. You could try filing a CachyOS bug report on their GitHub and seeing if anyone knows where to look though. They are usually pretty responsive at troubleshooting this shit and if they don't know then they'll know who to ask.

>>109771905
Thanks desu, you explained it well.

>>109771859
I don't understand the swap on zram thing. How is having swap on ram any different from not having swap at all?
What is the benefit to spinning up systemd-zram-setup@zram0.service?

For a decade I just used no swap at all, and it was fine. I found out cachy enables this ootb, why?

>>109772156
Unless you have a literal potato then the compression is basically "free". The point of Swap on Zram is to compress the RAM. Without any Swap at all then all of that just sits in memory all the time so if a bunch of apps use a fuck ton of memory or have a leak, etc, then you have no way to reclaim that (other than killing the app)

i love linux so much

>>109772156
>For a decade I just used no swap at all, and it was fine
You were losing RAM performance. Swap is used for memory management by the kernel.

>>109774221
I thought swap was an overflow buffer for when RAM filled up, using a portion of the disk as if it were RAM, but at 10% of the speed.

>>109772156
It compresses stuff that never gets used and you end up having more memory for cache.

>>109774240
Common misconception on what Swap is for. It's not for "emergency RAM".

Read "In defence of Swap":
https://chrisdown.name/2018/01/02/in-defence-of-swap.html

>>109770062
>it's just so plain
i mean i think thats the point

Would Gentoo be fine to use for a gaming setup whenever I build my next computer? I know it has more to do with drivers and software so I'm asking if those things are decent enough on Gentoo compared to other stuff. I mainly use Fedora KDE and I don't really want to use CachyOS.

>>109774905
Yes, it's fine and things like Steam and Wine, etc, are well-supported just as on other distros.

>>109774905
is there any reason you want to specifically use gentoo

>>109774905
Sure, but it's not going to make any difference because your games are all proprietary binaries and Steam runs everything in a container anyway.

>>109775049
Just curiosity, nothing I'm actually set on.
>>109774958
>>109775173
Nice, are drivers fine?

>>109775475
Drivers are the same as any other distro. Mesa is still Mesa. Linux is still Linux.

Of course Gentoo being source based does make it a bit easier to compile stuff should you need newer drivers or different branches of Mesa, etc.

>>109774905
Gentoo works fine but you have to do all the hackery other distributors do to their distros yourself.
Big suggestion is to modify applications .desktop files like my browser is:

nice -n 19 cpulimit -l 30 /usr/bin/brave-browser-stable %U

so it can stay open while gaming.

my vm is running MX Linux. what do you think?

>>109776084
>vm
ya already lost
>MX Linux
>Debian stable but more stale

Nvidia merged cgroup vram support into latest drivers.
There should be nothing preventing you from implementing the thing that the valve tranny implemented for AMD now. Your ancient junk 4gb vram gpu will get its ebin performance boost.
I know you guys will find something else to dilate about as always but posting this as a JFYI in case someone gives shit for something else besides brand autism.

>>109776084
Pointless distro desu.

>>109776026
>>109776064
Thanks for the help. I'm interested in trying it out and seeing if I want to jump ship from Fedora since I don't know what's going on with the age verification stuff yet.

>>109776482
So I should buy more RTX 5050s? Thanks Daddy Jenson.

>>109768861
Are any of you distro maintainers? I like Debian a lot and am wondering if becoming one would help my resume.

>>109776764
>help my resume.
Not a maintainer but I can't think of any job where they think it demonstrates an important skillset in demand.
Maybe you can fool some dumb HR hag, but nobody is reading your resume in AI age anyway.

>>109770291
I wanted to upgrade from Mint 21 to 22, they have a nice little wizard for it but it found I had incompatible packages installed. I tried resolving it with the in-wizard steps and ended up with a broken unbootable upgrade I had to restore from a snapshot. Not ideal. Been meaning to go back and try it again but I've hopped to Fedora since then.

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>>109770311
After leaving it overnight, I was unfortunately not able to upgrade to Debian 13 through Discover due to this error.

>10gb read on a HDD with ext4 to seed/upload 0.4gb (400mb)
Is this really notmal?

>>109776973
Depends entirely on what the rest of that system is doing and how much RAM the torrent client is using. Heavy repeated reads like reading the same data over and over again and uploading it to multiple machines over Bittorrent should be cached in the filesystem cache in a perfect world. Except we don't live in a perfect world and who knows what else that box is doing.
The most optimal torrent seedbox is basically a giant RAM disk.

Is anyone using mpv-git? Did stats break for you?

[cplayer] Can't find script 'stats' when handling input.

>>109777174
I'm just seeding on my computer, not anything dedicated. The computer was idle, I wasn't using it. Only the drive which has the torrents (and os drive) had read/write activity, none of the other ones did. Seems to be some sort of fragmentation issue as I don't get these insane reads when I'm just seeding when I first download it. If I seed 5gb during that period I would basically just get 5gb of read. But it's the long term seeding where it only uploads a tiny amount every now and again where it does this.

>>109777356
>But it's the long term seeding where it only uploads a tiny amount every now and again where it does this.
If the file isn't in the page cache anymore then everyone of those little reads is basically going to hit disk each time.
If somebody only comes a long to request a little bit of the file now and again then that adds up over time.

>>109777758
So long term seeding of a lot of torrents kills your drive if you get a lot of these small upload requests?

>>109777920
It's probably not going to kill your drive but if you do it for a very, very, very, very long time, yes.

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i have a failing(failed) 5tb hdd toshiba x300 performance drive, formatted in xfs
i also have 1 donor drive with the same model and chipset on the pcb, and a 2nd drive that i can practice removing and re-attaching the heads on thats 4tb but still the same model otherwise
picrel is what shows up in dmesg -w after an unplug/replug of the usb board i use to attach
ive tried 3 different sata to usb boards, and also tried directly sata to motherboard on another linux computer with no luck
the drive spins up, clicks for about 30 to 40 seconds then stops
i've verified its not stuck heads, but dont know if its the heads are damaged or if the pcb is damaged and which i should try first, to swap heads or the board
there is also 4 potential bios chips on the pcb so im not even sure which might be the actual bios if i do a pcb swap and replace the chip
thoughts? the data is important to warrant this level of fuckery and learning some shieeets but not enough to drop 1k on professional recovery

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>>109778050
picrel here is the board in question, the toshiba g3626a
the 4 potential bios chips are the top 3 8pins: Winband 25Q80DLIG (https://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/2131222/WINBOND/25Q80DLIG.html)
or the bottom left 8pin (but above the rectangular Zentel chip) the Winband 25Q80BL or 808L or B0BL etc etc, its alot harder to see on that chip

>>109776288
>Debian stable but more stale
???
MX has the backports repo enabled by default and has its own testing one too. There's still no point in it unless your computer is a 4GB pile of shit or you're fucking around with VMs like that anon, but it's no worse than vanilla debian.

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Unfriendly post warning
Nobody pushed back on this poster in pic related but it's complete bullshit. I think they falsely equated and lumped together Ubuntu's main vs universe repo situation with Debian's when they're not actually the same at all. Everything in Debian's main stable branch gets security updates and they're all public.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2026/threads.html
Even trivial packages like vidya james get fixes as you can see if you dig around.
The frustrating part is that they were smugly talking down on someone else while spewing this shit.
I use Fedora this is not damage control, I just hate seeing people be smugly wrong on the internet because a lot of people use these threads and absorb a lot of bad info from them.

>>109776810
Being a Linux maintainer wouldn't help jobs where you work with Linux a lot? I guess those jobs are pretty few and far between. So many admin positions are for Wangblows and Active Directory.

>>109778125
>Everything in Debian's main stable branch gets security updates and they're all public.
It's quite a few that get updated, but it's definitely not all. Here's the list of CVEs still in Debian stable:
https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/stable
Debian will also tend to file away certain CVEs as "low priority" and remove them from this list. Ffmpeg in Debian stable (and Unstable/Trixie, too), for example, has something like 30 unfixed CVEs attached to it, but they're marked as low priority and thus ignored:
https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/ffmpeg

Rolling releases also fix bugs that aren't CVEs as well. Rolling releases are more secure in the sense that more CVEs are fixed, but the trade off is that they're less stable (both in the normal sense of stable and the Debian sense of stable). People always say not to use Debian testing because it doesn't have dedicated security support, but the reality is testing probably has more CVEs fixed that stable, by a long shot.

t. Debian on everything I own

>laptop's on its last legs
>on ebay, buy a refurbished laptop
>format drive, install nixos
>git pull
>sudo nixos-rebuild switch
>One generation later its like my desktop never went anywhere
Sometimes its just the small things

>>109769189
>Also, using 10 terminal commands just to upgrade an OS
What? It's a single command over here. You can even write an alias that points to that command and makes it run, and you can make it as cringe as you want, like Frankenstein's "It's alive!" and it subsequently updates.

>>109778687
>What? It's a single command over here
What is the command?

Arch on desktop, debian on servers, realistically does it even matter?

>>109778711
not really, but it saves some braincells to stick to one distro.

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>>109774905
>>109775475
Haven't you seen the gentoo users in the /vg/ linux threads? They play just about as well as any other functioning linux build.

>>109778726
I haven't actually, I'm mostly in /vr/ct and /smtg/ so I haven't checked out most of the other generals lately. I'll check it out.

>>109778696
nobara sync cli --all
That's it, just one line, and not-Fedora 43 easily goes into not-Fedora 44.

>>109778722
You mean it saves time?

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>>109778753
Let's say you have a Fedora and Debian server. One uses apt, another uses dnf to invoke commands. What if you have a brain fart one day and jumble them up. No one might see it but it's embarrassing desu.

>>109768861
does thunar have some setting or plugin that remembers the sorting state of folders? some folders i always to have sorted on date modified, while others i want to have alphabetically.

>>109778753
nta, but the only real differences between distros are, release schedules / package updates, init systems and package manager. I run Fedora on my laptop and PC, while I run Rocky on my servers. Simply because they're all in the Red Hat family. Fedora on laptop and PC because I want he relatively newest stuff that's stable and Rocky on servers because I want stable well tested stuff with a longer support cycle. Then the init system is the same (systemd) and so is the package manager (dnf). There was a period of time when I used Ubuntu / Deb for the same reason (Ubuntu is debian based, so the init system, package management and package update cycle were all relatively the same (just newer packages on Ubuntu)).

It means you don't have a hodge podge of different distros, with diffeerent package managers and different init systems throughout your infrastructure.

>>109778125
There is nothing to push back against because the post is fundamentally correct.
>security backports
Most packages are not making explicit security patches or getting CVEs assigned to them. And as the other anon said a lot of CVEs get ignored by maintainers due to either a high maintenance burden or the requirement to introduce a "breaking" change to fix the issue.
The packages in Debian (or any other distribution) are mostly maintained by non-developers and most packages do not have a "stable" branch in the sense of "a branch that is specifically there to only receive security patches so that it is usable in stable distributions" which makes maintenance a lot more difficult.

Just look at the list you have posted. There are less than 200 unique packages that received a security patch this year. I seriously doubt those are the only packages that have security vulnerabilities.
So the screenshot you have attached is incorrect in one regard - less than 1% of (Debian) packages get security backports and not 5%. It is worth noting that not all packages have security vulnerabilities but far more than 200 do.

>"stable" vs "rolling" security
The older the stable baseline the more you depend on maintainers to identify and backport security-critical upstream changes. A rolling distro gets much more of the upstream maintenance stream which includes fixes that were never assigned a CVE.
If security is your concern then you should not use a stable distro. Either use a rolling one or one with a short release cycle like Fedora. A rolling release not only protects you from known security vulnerabilities but also unknown and undisclosed ones.

>server vs desktop security divide
Packages that are used by infrastructure systems do get far more attention than your average desktop software. The gap in attention to security between the two is immense despite most desktop software being more complex and requiring more attention.

>>109769189
I've been upgrading my mint install from 2013 (think mint 12 or so) when I dropped windows continuously. I am currently at the third laptop that this is running on.

You are lying.
>>109778125
that fucker is basically trying to troll you.

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>>109778254
Interesting. Do you know if Fedora is any better at having fixed CVEs for its packages? I love Debian and run Sid but I'm considering migrating to Fedora for SELinux lockdown of Podman containers.

>>109768861
Question for more veteran anons:
Should I switch to an ublue distro?
I've been using Ubuntu for some time now, coming from windows, but I've been wanting to switch to the Fedora ecosystem. The only thing is I'm extremely lazy and don't like to fiddle, tweak or any of that with my operating systems. Are the ublue distro (bazzite, Aurora, Bluefin) worth it or are they just snake oil?
Thanks in advance.

>>109780015
>I'm extremely lazy and don't like to fiddle, tweak or any of that with my operating systems
Then they are perfect for you.

>>109780015
>don't like to fiddle, tweak or any of that with my operating systems.
I use bluefin because of this. I love autoupdates and am fine with using flatpak.
Although ironically some things are more fiddly in regards to creating software development containers.
And with anything experimental Ubuntu of course has the most compatibility.

Its been 3 days since I switched from windows 11 to cachy OS

am i an arch user now?

>>109780055
>in regards to creating software development containers.
Using containers for software development is the same on any distro. It's not like you're forced to do it on Bluefin, it's just that containers make sense when doing most software dev work.

>>109780055
Immutable distros are an SSD rape speedrun

>>109780069
Not really. Your web browser is raping your SSD far more than the rest of your OS.
Immutable distros are the standard in gaming handhelds that run off cheap eMMC storage or SD cards. They're also the standard on phones because of Android. Aside from bottom of the barrel cheap SD card failures you don't see anyone complaining about their storage breaking.

>>109780069
Not true, they might have more writes that non immutable distros but compared to say a web browser it's still nothing.

>>109778772
The system usually just tells you that the package manager isn't installed.

>>109768889
Is there a single stable distro that doesn't require a terminal to upgrade?

>>109780015
>The only thing is I'm extremely lazy and don't like to fiddle, tweak or any of that with my operating systems. Are the ublue distro (bazzite, Aurora, Bluefin) worth it or are they just snake oil?
They're worth it. I don't have one on my desktop as I'm usually using it, but I have one on my laptop since I don't use it that often. I don't have to think about updating my laptop ever, it's like an appliance now, I just use it. It's so good I might even switch my desktop to ublue if my SSD fails and I have to reinstall.

>>109769049
Reporting back in.
Zorin is still nice.
As for programs, I used to use MPC-HC on Windows 10. Is that a good Linux alternative to the pre-packaged VLC? Not that anything is essentially wrong with it, but I grew used to MPC.

>>109781165
Best bet, imo
sudo apt install ffmpeg ffmpegthumbnailer celluloid
Celluloid is a front end for mpv, ffmpeg is your codecs, and ffmpegthumbnailer provides you with media thumbnails.

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>run a game through wine
>launcher has an issue with checkboxes not appearing
>search around to fix it
>nothing works
>try every suggestion
>forget about the issue for a year
>recreate the wineprefix because i want to play the game again
>find a collection of windows themes and community themes on github
>play around with them in wine
>start the launcher
>checkboxes are now present
???
what a stupid issue and fix. from trying out those themes also only the windows xp style and royal theme make them appear for some reason. the other themes have the same issues of missing checkboxes as the built in classic and aero theme in wine.

>>109768861
im too lazy guys. i use a containerifle and do rpm-ostree install in that. and some shitty github actions to build my shit

is there any benefit to converting to bluebuild>

>>109781146
The Fedora Atomic images don't need a terminal to upgrade. So, Silverblue, Kinoite, Bazzite, Aurora, Bluefin, Secureblue, etc.
The only times they needed the use of a terminal to upgrade was when Fedora made a massive fuckup in the rollout of updates. This only happened twice in the past 10 years, specifically with Fedora 36 and Fedora 40. What's funny is that there are still 5.5% of Fedora users using those versions. Considering how much Fedora has grown in popularity since v36 this means that at least 10%-20% of people are not willing to use the terminal (at the very least not for updating the system or managing updates).

the illusion has been broken for me, i came to the realization that all distros are more or less the same.
a no-shit-sherlock realization? yes. but it pulls the magic out of it in a way. there are some weird ones like chimaeraos with freebsd userland or something, but otherwise...
is linux a solved problem? most seem to have gone the same way and keep going the same way, besides with immutables, but i doubt those will catch on.

>>109781615
My endgame has been guix nixos and debian. Will try out qubesos during xmas holidays.

>>109780069
i genuinely think you need to stop worrying about how fast something will kill your ssd

>>109781615
i just use fedora because it plays nice with my notebook and desktop. i can just use it on both and don't have to preconfigure it for my exact hardware.

>>109781608
Fedora isn't stable

So, now that kernel 7.2 is on my Fedora KDE system, i need to apparently enable the HDMI 2.1 FRL by adding amdgpu.dcfeaturemask=0x400 to grub.

Currently my grub is like so:
GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)"
GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rhgb quiet amdgpu.ppfeaturemask=0xffffffff"
GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"
GRUB_ENABLE_BLSCFG=true

So do i add another GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX line?

GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)"
GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rhgb quiet amdgpu.ppfeaturemask=0xffffffff"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="amdgpu.dcfeaturemask=0x400"
GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"
GRUB_ENABLE_BLSCFG=true

Or do i just append it to the same line?
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rhgb quiet amdgpu.ppfeaturemask=0xffffffff amdgpu.dcfeaturemask=0x400"

This i my first time messing with this file

Are there any live distros with ZFS support? I sometimes need to access ZFS pools from a live USB and having to compile ZFS on the fly each time is a pain

>>109782366
ubuntu server?

>>109782382
Alright this might work but I was hoping for something lighter, I'm only going to use this as a live system to access, diagnose and repair other systems

>>109782270
Yes it is. It is a point release distribution. It is stable by the sysadmin definition of "stable", which is what we're talking about here.

>buy wifi 6 dongle
>kernel doesnt have a driver for it, community driver doesnt work cause kernel is too new
>buy shitty old 2.4ghz dongle
>it just werks
this has been my experience with most things on linux and its the sole reason linux isnt more mainstream

>>109782669
>sole reason linux isnt more mainstream
No. The reason Linux isn't mainstream is the lack of marketing and the lack of Linux pre-builds. A Linux pre-build wouldn't have connectivity issues and wouldn't require you to manually install WiFi drivers.

>>109781615
>but i doubt those will catch on
you kiddiing, right?
the most popular OSs in the world are immutable, it's what people are accustomed to use now. And immutable distros are the best shot Linux has to ever becoming a mainstream option because they bring what it's been lacking for decades: consistency and standarization.

>>109782752
any stndarization bewteen the existing immutable options on linux right now? any consistancy?

>>109782669
I bought some random RTL8852BE wifi 6 card and it's perfectly fine
Everyone knows you shouldn't buy crab, but this crab's ok. At least on Arch Linux.

>>109782776
i didnt know
got an adapter with the AIC8800D80 chipset and tried using it on debian

>>109782776
haven't had any issues with their 2.5gb nics since kernel 5.8 i think. i had one on my b450 board and currently have one on my b650 board. no issues. used it with linux mint, lmde 6, arch and fedora.

>>109782523
i think nixos might also have it.

>>109782795
WTF that is some uniquely cancer chipset.

>>109782669
Chicken and egg

>>109782759
>any stndarization bewteen the existing immutable options on linux right now
Yes.
1. The application ecosystem is standardized.
You use Flatpaks and Appimages for apps on all of them. If an app is unavailable as one of these, then it doesn't exist on Linux, period.
If you're a dev or something you would use homebrew or distrobox for your scripts and various other programs.
2. The desktop environments are standardized.
You have KDE and GNOME as the default options in most of the immutable distributions. Other desktops are irrelevant.

Standardization of everything else is largely irrelevant to most people.

>>109782296
okay i figured it out myself, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rhgb quiet amdgpu.ppfeaturemask=0xffffffff amdgpu.dcfeaturemask=0x400" is correct.
Finally i can get 3840 x 2160 at 144hz with 10 bit hdr10

>>109778084
I've been thinking of installing regular Debian (with KDE Plasma) instead of MX Linux with KDE Plasma.
The only things i think i would miss out on is the neat little MX Conky tool they provide
and its not like I use sysvinit over systemd anyway
Would regular Debian run a lot slower? Since MX Linux's selling point is that it can be installed on low end hardware, even though I got an older gen i7 and 8GB RAM

I want to replace my 1tb boot drive formatted in ext4 with a 2tb ssd. I wish I could just boot into a live usb and dd the whole drive but I don't think I can. Can I just boot into a live environment, format the drive, set up encryption, and rsync each partition to the corresponding ones on the new drive, and, change the uefi entry?

to whoever said
>just use meta packages on arch
i have to ask. that is stupid. i can't remove shit now. what a stupid way to do packages.

do you know of any rss notifiers? I am not interested in reading in a client. I just wish to be notified when there is a match. Ideally something that lives in the tray bar so I can rapidly check the latest new entries

Is there a way to configure pacman to update certain packages until a specific dot/point version is out?
For example only update KDE Plasma until x.x.3 version is out, and stop at x.x.6 until the next x.x.3 is out.
Or with Mesa3D, only update until xx.x.4 is out and stop at xx.x.8 until the next xx.x.4 comes out.

>>109782752
>the most popular OSs in the world are immutable
Where? None of the big three are immutable. Ublue barely has a fraction of Linux's userbase, even with Bazzite normies being included, compared to popular distros like Cachy and Mint which everyone knows about.
SteamOS and Android don't count.

>>109783004
>the most used OS in gaming handhelds and largest OS used for Linux Gaming doesn't count
>the most used Linux-based OS in the world doesn't count
uh huh

>>109783056
macfag os is also immutable. same goes for it's retarded mobile ios version.

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help
>cachy
felt the fastest when i tried live iso but i don't like tinkering
>fedora
bleeding edge + stability seems nice but i don't like projects made by big corporations, especially big corporations with indians
>mint
i like cinnamon more than kde but it felt the slowest. also dev seems based and no tinkering
amd cpu and gpu if that matters

>>109783077
>felt the fastest when i tried live iso but i don't like tinkering
Why do you think Cachy needs tinkering?

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>>109783077
>felt the fastest

>>109783077
you dont have to tinker with cachy they got scripts for everything inside the "cachyos hello" thing

>>109783004
>where
- Android
- iOS
- macOS
- SteamOS
- Bazzite
- Dedicated Linux gaming operating systems (LibreELEC, Batocera, and distros based on these 2. These are used by dozens of millions of people.)
- Game console operating systems (PlayStation)

Windows is the only popular non-immutable OS, but it is not exactly a representation of good OS architecture anyway.
Microsoft did want to make Windows immutable to an extent. The only reason Windows is not immutable yet is because it has a massive amount of technical debt making it very difficult to migrate to an immutable architecture. So they did the next best thing and made the system updates transactional with automatic rollbacks.

>t-these operating systems don't count!
Of course they do. Why wouldn't they? They are operating systems.

>>109783105
coz it's arch and arch is supposed to break

>>109783290
Arch doesn't really break. Sucks if there's some "manual intervention required" type thing happening tho. That's a hassle.

>>109783290
I daily drove Arch for YEARS and I didn't break it. It didn't erase my bootloader. I didn't have dependency issues.
It's a lie made up by ubuntujeets who cannot use a real distro

>>109783290
I have been on the same cachy install for 2 years and it has yet to break, just run pacman -Syu once a week.

>>109783290
I've been running

yay --noconfirm;shutdown now

for years and haven't had a problem. Fortune favors the bold.

>>109783077
To properly sample the differences in the distros you gotta add 'toram' to the boot option in grub. Otherwise you're just experiencing the flash disk's bottleneck.

also if youre already on linux you can add ISOs directly to your grub menu for recovery or testing

#!/bin/sh
exec tail -n +3 $0
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries.  Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment.  Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.

menuentry "systemrescue-LiveCD" {
     iso_path="/livegui-amd64-20260412T164603Z.iso"
     export iso_path
     search --set=root --file $iso_path
 
     # support booting recent GRUB versions on UEFI systems
     rmmod tpm
 
loopback loop $iso_path
     set root=(loop)
     # the path below is on the SystemRescue ISO, not the hard drive
     configfile /boot/grub/loopback.cfg
}

I have an old shitty laptop with a 1st gen i3 and 4GB RAM that runs Windows 7 very poorly.
All I want from the machine is to be able to boot up quick and do online shopping or banking. Nothing fancy.

Would Ubuntu run better than Windows 7 or is that kind of bloated too? Do I need to look for something less general purpose and more barebones/optimized?

>>109783806
It'd run better than windows but still run rough

>>109782948
then remove the meta package and install the group

>>109783290
i really hate how retards have convinced noobs that arch breaks by just existing.

>>109783806
If you want some real speed from it, setup Arch with LXQT and lightdm, using linux-lts, with SELinux, zram-renemabled, and brave or firefox
Alternatively, debian, lxqt, lightdm, selinux, and setup zram

>>109783806
Install the fluxbox version of MX Linux.

>>109783909
you're telling a newbie to go cave scuba diving when they don't even know how to swim
>>109783952
you're shilling your shitty distro again?

Anyone get annoyed with /merged in their Devuan sources uri?

>>109769319
I love GNOME, but Web is the worst browser ever made. It caches everything to RAM, leaks like a motherfucker, and refuses to release any of it. After 4 tabs they'll start crashing left and right because you have no RAM or SWAP left. You need to treat it as a single tab browser and restart it constantly. The complete lack of extensions also makes browsing the internet impossible. Oh yeah, the built-in adblocker is useless and blocks 4chan posting.

>>109783699
>also if youre already on linux you can add ISOs directly to your grub menu for recovery or testing
I just set up a pxeboot server with netboot.xyz so now I can just boot System Rescue CD or other iso images directly over my LAN. It even works for the Windows recovery .iso too as long as you set up a samba share for it.

Sadly, System Rescue CD and other distro images won't PXE boot on my laptop over WiFi (HP supports Wireless PXE boot in their firmware which is really cool) because the images don't contain any wireless drivers or wpa_supplicant, etc, in the initramfs so they have no way to fetch the squashfs they unpack and pivot_root into.

If I get bored one day I'm going to try to make image that can handle that over PXE boot.

>>109783988
Alternative route; Install Lubuntu, remove snapd and ufw, install SELinux.

>>109784039
You don't need SELinux on a laptop / desktop. AppArmor is fine if you must use something but even so very few applications even come with a proper MAC policy so it's just placebo in most cases.

>>109784067
I've always preferred UFW, but given that it's the standard with Fedora, and that I use Fedora, I might as well get used to it.

>>109784131
die, you spamming nigger

>>109781256
Thanks mate, sorry for the late reply.

>>109784039
>remove snapd
The next full upgrade will not only bring it back but make PipeWire a snap.

>>109783806
Anything from the past 20 years has enough computational power to run any modern DE, but Windows 7 will probably be faster than modern GNOME or Plasma. Q4OS Trinity is my go-to for ancient hardware since it's pretty much like Windows pre-Vista.

>>109782584
Fedora has daily 3GB updates for irrelevant libraries that have zero user-facing benefit.

Does /g/ still hate bash?
I didn't realize until a couple days ago that I can just make a shell script with

# Reset / Normal Text
NC=$'\033[0m'       

# Regular Colors
RED=$'\033[0;31m'
GREEN=$'\033[0;32m'
BLUE=$'\033[0;34m'
WHITE=$'\033[0;37m'

then just source it into other scripts to have memorable aliases for colored text.

>>109786368
Was Bash hating really a thing?
I do the same variable thing for my PS1 to make it more readable and easier to edit if I need to...

>>109786417
I know it was hated in 2018 cause some dude associated to it wasn't white or something

does using a sched-ext scheduler provide any performance benefits?

>>109786018
>Fedora has daily 3GB updates
False.
>updates have zero user-facing benefit
False.

Is Pop_OS good?
T. window 11 looking to switch, but still want to play gayms

>>109787347
No. PopOS is for people who are testing and developing the Cosmic Desktop Environment.
>T. window 11 looking to switch, but still want to play gayms
Use Bazzite.

>>109787392
thank. I hope my nvidia gpu doesn't fuck thing up.

>>109787298
>False
How? Check Discover right now and tell me what the total size of your updates are.
>False
What is the user-facing benefit of librdmacm? Or libibverbs? Or libcap-ng?

bought a new computer. it came with windows 11 installed, and I absolutely refuse to use that vibe-coded jeet garbage. what distro should I go with? my needs are
>beginner friendly so I'm not lost in the sauce trying to update/troubleshoot every time I boot up
>at least somewhat on the cutting edge of tech, I want to game and occasionally do some image/video editing
>not an immutable cause I want to learn not just be spoonfed everything

>>109787437
Fedora KDE

>>109787437
>I want to learn not just be spoonfed everything
This has nothing to do with the OS you're using. You will either want to learn or not.

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>>109787437
OP usually has some useful info if you're will to read (if you choose linux you're going to be doing a bunch of reading from now on anyway)
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Babbies_First_Linux

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>>109768861
Any of you used dnscrypt-proxy2 (either in anonymized or ODoH mode) on the router? How do you choose good reliable relays? Also, does it matter? I thought the whole point of these two options was to make it so the relay couldn't do anything to your packets. Or am I wrong?
https://github.com/DNSCrypt/dnscrypt-resolvers/blob/master/v3/odoh-relays.md
Also there are only two ODoH relays. One of them is run by the guy who maintains dnscrypt-proxy and the other one is a random guy.

https://github.com/DNSCrypt/dnscrypt-resolvers/blob/master/v3/relays.md
There are many, many anonymized relays, but I'm not sure which to pick.

>>109787526
>How do you choose good reliable relays?
Configure SOCKS proxy to go via tor:

## SOCKS proxy
## Uncomment the following line to route all TCP connections to a local Tor node
## Tor doesn't support UDP, so set `force_tcp` to `true` as well. When passing
## a random username and password to Tor's socks5 connection, dnscrypt-proxy gets
## an isolated circuit so it will not share an exit node with other applications.
## Note: the random username and password used by dnscrypt-proxy should not
## actually be defined in Tor's configuration.
proxy = 'socks5://dnscrypt:dnscrypt@127.0.0.1:9050'

It matters less what relays you choose then.

Would be cool if there were DNS services over i2p but tor works well enough.

>>109787555
So it does matter which relays you choose? Can they log or interfere with your traffic to and from the actual resolvers (I would probably just us quad9)? If the relays themselves may be dangerous, I may just bite the bullet and use unbound + quad9. Quad9 kind of glows but eh.

>>109787576
Relays can't see anything because they're relaying encrypted traffic. By design if any of them tampered with anything then dnscrypt-proxy2 would be able to detect it. They can't see your DNS requests/responses.

Github is so fucked now. Can't even download tarball of Linux anymore:

$ wget2 https://github.com/torvalds/linux/archive/refs/heads/master.tar.gz
HTTP response 302  [https://github.com/torvalds/linux/archive/refs/heads/master.tar.gz]
Enqueuing https://codeload.github.com/torvalds/linux/tar.gz/refs/heads/master
HTTP ERROR response 429  [https://codeload.github.com/torvalds/linux/tar.gz/refs/heads/master]
master.tar.gz        100% [=========================================================================>]     313     --.-KB/s
                          [Files: 0  Bytes: 313  [122 B/s] Redirects: 1  Todo: 0  Errors: 1          ]

>>109787603
Ok, good, that's how I thought it worked. Thank you.
>By design if any of them tampered with anything then dnscrypt-proxy2 would be able to detect it
Would you happen to know where this is referenced in the docs, or generally how dnscrypt-proxy2 would detect tampering? This sort of thing engages my autism. Thought I'd ask here before I google and ask the clankers.

>>109787611
I don't actually know how it does its cryptography, no, but I assume it would verify certificates, etc. It's still more private than something like Unbound + quad9 which wouldn't use any relays at all.

>>109787631
>>109787611
Also, if you set

require_dnssec

which you should then it will also verify that the resolver that's being relayed isn't tampering with DNS itself too:

# Server must support DNS security extensions (DNSSEC)
require_dnssec = true

>>109787638
Yeah, I saw this too. I've been researching it and apparently dnscrypt-proxy2 itself doesn't verify DNSSEC, it just filters relays that say they do (I saw some posts that seemed to iply that relays can lie or be misconfigured here somehow). The only major letdown I've seen with dnscyrpt-proxy so far. Unbound can do this, but as you said here >>109787631 Unbound in forwarding mode is still giving the DNS server it's using all your DNS queries. Could probably use Unbound and dnscrypt-proxy2 at the same time, but I don't know if there are any docs or forum posts about that.

>>109787671
>Could probably use Unbound and dnscrypt-proxy2 at the same time, but I don't know if there are any docs or forum posts about that.
Just set them to listen on different IP addresses. You can bind dnscrypt-proxy2 to 127.0.0.53 and then make Unbound use that as its upstream. Shouldn't be any issues with that.

>>109787687
I'm a bit lost on how to do this correctly (ie, if I would install Unbound alongside dnsmasq as the Unbound OpenWRT docs say), to be honest.

https://github.com/DNSCrypt/dnscrypt-proxy/wiki/Installation-on-OpenWrt#prevent-dns-leaks-outside-of-dnscrypt-proxy-and-disable-dnsmasq-cache
In the dnscrypt-proxy OpenWRT docs it says to disable cache:

    # Disable dnsmasq cache because we don't want to cache twice and the dnscrypt-proxy cache is superior
    option cachesize '0'

Which I think dnsmasq (and assumedly Unbound) need to do DNSSEC verification? I'm also wondering how much DNSSEC even matters if your resolver (quad9, cloudflare) do it for you anyway. It seems like many sites don't support it. I tried to dig/delv to test for DNSSEC support on various websites, but I guess my router's current version of dnsmasq doesn't support DNSSEC even at the router. Damn, this is all so complicated.

>>109787759 (me)
Scratch that, it's my ISP's shitty DNS that is stripping DNSSEC (probably)

>>109787759
You can keep dnsmasq if you want, and yes, you should probably disable the cache although it doesn't hurt to keep a small cache size.

Dumb quick question, just starting really and have my main distro installed on steel in my M1 slot and Windows on my M2 slot. I have it added to grub to dual boot now if I ever need to run back for something specific. Is there a command to just go back to grub from the running distro? I know it should boot back to it if I just restart, but it's also been immediately showing grub and throwing me into my main install. Just trying to figure out the quickest way to switch over if I have to.

>>109788374
No if you need to it to stay up a bit longer you have to edit /etc/default/grub and run update-grub after for Debian-based distros (other command for Fedora/Arch).

Edit this with a number in seconds (or -1 to cancel the timeout):
GRUB_TIMEOUT=

Keep the last option remembered on next boot if you want to reboot:
GRUB_DEFAULT=saved

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Why is Debian Security on an American CDN these days?

>>109788479
Worry not, for Sruthi will move it to an Indian company instead.

>>109788479
Because they sponsor them and have POPs all over the world and caching at each, etc. It's a good default for "I could be anywhere in the world and therefore don't want to hardcode a local mirror".

If Yandex Cloud or Tencent or whatever wanted to sponsor their hosting they'd probably use them too but they don't really have as much of a global presence as Fastly.

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Did I fuck Fedora up somehow? Nothing and I mean nothing is able to record PipeWire. Audacity can't, KRecorder can't, and it seems that only GPU Screen Recorder can record my computer's audio output because it's interfacing directly with ALSA or whatever. PipeWire doesn't even show up in KRecorder, and trying to record PipeWire in Audacity tells me:
>Error opening recording device.
>Error code: -9999 Unanticipated host error.
Which is weird because in previous months, the error code was instead "-9997 Invalid sample rate".

Recording PipeWire USED to work at the start of the year, but at some point broke. How do I fix this

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>>109788738
Here is the process to make it better:

- Draw concept art for the change/feature requested.

- Clearly provide a set of potential use cases for the change/feature, and explain how they interact with existing features.

- Conduct a scientific experiments to document human reaction to an extension with similar change/feature.

Only after providing this data will the GNOME Design team consider your request, which they may approve or reject (GNOME recorded that 83% of its users have manually installed extensions. The design team doesn't care and refuse to implement basic popular extensions, since they don't fit their vision of a 'proper' user experience and workflow).

After you get buecratic approval from the GNOME Design team, you are permitted to code the feature, or convince someone to code it for you.

>>109788479
>>109788919
Also, if you care about tracking then use the TOR mirrors that Debian operates:
https://onion.debian.org/

Personally, I think it's really stupid to care about the metadata associated with security updates. Yes, they know your downloading the patch for some vulnerability, yes they probably know what that vulnerability is/was since everything is public in Debian anyway and they don't keep any secrets.

>download Linux for the first time
>suggested flatpak software has a switch emulator
...huh. I'm gonna like this.

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>>109788951
we have better games
>>109788936
>provide a set of potential use cases
>implying they would care

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why does immutability basically not exist for raspberry pi's?

>>109789021
Ubuntu Core exists:
https://documentation.ubuntu.com/core/tutorials/try-pre-built-images/use-raspberry-pi-imager/

>>109788920
With the help of Gemini I got this solution:
1. Run

PULSE_SERVER=unix/run/user/$UID/pipewire-pulse.sock audacity

2. Begin recording PipeWire (with a microphone plugged in)
3. Open pavucontrol, and change Audacity's audio source from the microphone to the audio source I want

And it werks!

>>109789067
typical gemini-chan win

>>109789039
yeah that one showed up next to fedora iot, alpine and skiffos. i was more talking about operating systems that people actually use like the stock one. all those retro gaming operating systems and those media streaming ones. you'd think they have an immutable option or be by that by default.
>>109789070
even in it's lobotomized state it's still good

Why is Debian the only operating system where distro upgrades take hours?

>>109789099
the people who use it are all retired and have plenty of time to wait around.

>>109789083
>all those retro gaming operating systems and those media streaming ones. you'd think they have an immutable option or be by that by default.
As long as you aren't a retard and know how to fix problems then you don't actually need an immutable operating system. It's fine to just upgrade with apt or dnf or pacman or whatever as long as you know how to fix any issues that crop up.

>>109788738
So bold yet so true

>>109788936
>Conduct a scientific experiments to document human reaction to an extension with similar change/feature.
I'm pretty sure that the majority of PC users hate the vanilla gnome workflow so they should change it

>>109788919
I don't understand why they can't just let the volunteer mirrors handle it. The release files expire quickly so you would know if a mirror is not keeping up to date. I've only seen security hosted on american cdns...even microsoft azure mirrors it.

>>109788943
That's going to be slow with point releases and I heard it doesn't always have good uptime.

>>109789151
>workflow
when has this reddit phrasing become so popular? opening a browser to look at youtube videos isn't work and my DE isn't comfyUI

>>109789021
>>109789083
>all those retro gaming operating systems and those media streaming ones. you'd think they have an immutable option or be by that by default.
Almost all of them are immutable. Batocera, ROCKNIX, Knulli, LibreELEC, etc. are all immutable.

The ones that aren't immutable are mostly those that are based on Raspberry Pi OS or Debian. RPi OS has the ability to set itself to read-only, but it then prevents updates too since it's not a real (properly implemented) immutable state.

>After weeks a bugfix release of Dolphin (26.08.1) is finally out (26.08.0 was unusable for me since I use the option to remember view style per folder and it was completely broken)
>Need to wait for Fedora package managers to twiddle their thumbs before they put it in the repo
Anyone here on Rawhide? Does it give many headaches compared to being on point release because waiting around kind of sucks.

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>>109790279
>since I use the option to remember view style per folder and it was completely broken
works on my machine tho

>>109790389
It doesn't make the icons super tiny or invisible instead of respecting your size setting if you put in icons view? It was really buggy there were even multiple bug reports and the devs addressed them and fixed them after 26.08.0 was out. I think some distros may have backported the commits tho.

>>109790279
Just wait. Rawhide is for testing

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>>109790478
i also had them reset but i just
>changed the setting back to not remember them for every folder
>set symbol view to 16 and 16 and then back to 128 and 128
>changed to detailed view
>set it back to remember per folder
that fixed it for me

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>>109790478
not him but nope

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I've been using Fedora KDE since December, but I've had two occasions in the last month (including just a few minutes ago) where all my file systems just suddenly become emergency read-only, forcing me to restart my PC. This never happened to me until last month, is this just Btrfs being stupid?

>>109790676
>files going read only
usually a sign of the ssd failing

>>109790676
Allow me to correct: only my Linux file system becomes read-only. My NTFS drives remain writable.
>>109790689
It's a Samsung SSD that hadn't seen much use until I installed Fedora on it in December. I also have a small NTFS partition on the same disk that remains writable.

>>109790676
Your drive is dying. Do a filesystem check / health check.

>>109790717
>It's a Samsung SSD that hadn't seen much
Anything can fail, including Samsung disks.

>>109790717
>Samsung SSD
when the 980 pro firmware shitshow happened i remember my ssd also having stupid issues with reads, writes etc failing until i updated the firmware
i almost send it back at the time but here i am still using it without issues
i was on windows at the time

>>109790735
The NTFS partition on the same disk is working just fine though. My drive's SMART readings are also perfect across the board.

KDE keeps giving me a notification saying my keyboard battery is low (1%) and urging me to recharge it. It uses AAA batteries.
When I check

upower --dump

it tells me the battery is at 55% and also that this information should be ignored. Is there anywhere else KDE popup shit would get battery info than upower?
I guess I will wait and see if this warning is legit or not based on if the battery will actually run out soon.

>>109790676
I had this happen because of failing RAM. Basically my system got fed corrupt data and my filesystems just trusted that, eventually corrupting one of them that was not mirrored thus not fixable.

>>109790279
I already forgot that this bug was a thing because Arch fixed it weeks ago

>>109768861
Is there a video player that is yomitan compatible for subs? Subminer is not working at all. Asbplayer isn't working because I can't run x265 videos. I just need to use yomitan with subs. Please help

>>109790870
>>109790769
>>109790717
>>109790676
I loaded up a Fedora USB to run a Btrfs check and I got a lot of errors. In fact, Btrfs check ran out of memory (and I have 32 gigs of RAM). I'll run a memtest to determine whether the file system corruption was caused by shit RAM or Btrfs being buggy.

>>109791352
Yeah my RAM is fucked

>>109791352
>Btrfs check
You want to run "btrfs scrub" instead of check. Working with Btrfs tools is an art in itself
Good post on this: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/users@lists.opensuse.org/message/XCLAIJ7FUHZUBQIKJPU6VXJAOICKSTOT/

>>109791406
btrfs check sounds more reliable to me since you don't have the disk mounted

Thinking of giving void linux a shot, any shit I have to be aware of beforehand?

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Question since I may have fucked something up. Installed a new distro on a totally fresh 4TB SSD last night. I want to keep the actual distro under 100GB and leave the rest of the drive for data, games, etc. I want to keep /home/ on that too, so I can distro hop without formatting the whole thing.

When I was in the installer off my live boot, it only gave me the option to format/use the whole drive. It does appear to be partially partitioned, but I don't know if it has "roots" in the majority large part of it. Can I just resize/repartition it now and move /home/ or am I fucked from the install?

>>109792351
Resizing the rightmost partition is easy, anything else gets complicated or impossible.

>>109792534
Reminds me of my old Windows 10 installation
>the bug where a new recovery partition had to be made to update happened
>want to reclaim the 500MB between the EFI partition and the system parition
>move everything with Gparted
>the boot screen shows up
>Windows now inexplicably BSoD's on boot
>fuck
>reinstall Win10 on a spare SSD
>later clone that on a new SSD
>try to shove that old Win10 SSD into an old ThinkPad for shits and giggles
>mfw it does the new hardware detection bullshit
>mfw it actually booted
>mfw it somehow managed to un-fuck itself
I don't have the heart to format that SSD, that specific instance is a cursed cockroach. IIRC it went from LTSC 2015, to LTSC 2019, to Pro, to then get fucked up like this and then it magically un-fucked itself.
Though my most fun partition mishap was when I wanted to dual boot Kubuntu with Win7 on the old HDD installation, and the Kubuntu installer managed to fuck up the partition table so I couldn't boot into anything. But all the data was still there, so I loaded up TestDisk, it magically figured out how to restore the partition table and it was good as new.

I have no idea how I didn't suffer any data loss with my partitioning fuckery.

>>109792593
>the bug where a new recovery partition had to be made to update happened
Had the same issue and just couldn't be arsed with it so I just deleted the whole partition and it stopped bugging me about it

>>109792637
The annoying part is that Microsoft insists that the recovery partition should be before the system partition so if you don't want to have 500MB of dormant disk space if you need to create a new one you have to deal with all the repartitioning BS, and since it's Microsoft there's no easy way to not make that partition or force it to be made at the end of the disk. Maybe you could do it with autounattend.xml, idk, but it's really fucking stupid. It's fine when you don't have a bug like that and the recovery partition actually works so you can access all the recovery tools on boot though.

Not sure if it's linux or hardware related, but I have this thing where sometimes when I shut my monitor off for a while it won't detect the input anymore when I switch it back on until I restart the PC. My PC never goes to sleep on it's own and I've never had the input cut out while it was running before, just when I turn the monitor off. Anyone else ever had a problem like that?

>>109792652
In my experience the recovery partition does fucking nothing. Its single crowning achievement is that they added the ability to online re-install the whole fucking thing so you don't need a Windows iso anymore.

>>109793260
The recovery partition is basically a tiny WinRE environment to poke about if you can't boot. You could probably do the same on Linux by setting up a tiny bootable partition with some basic utilities that sits untouched, but then again, what's a live USB?

>>109793287
Systemd already has a mechanism to reset a Linux distro but almost nobody uses it:
https://systemd.io/FACTORY_RESET/

I think maybe GNOME OS uses that since they use Systemd for everything but really Linux doesn't break much in the first place. Biggest source of failure is probably a broken initramfs or kernel regression, both of which aren't a huge issue as long as you have other kernel images you can boot.

>>109792593
>move everything with Gparted
that's where you fucked up, windows is quite anal about the partition layout

>>109768861
>install linux on PC with a videocard
>0.5 FPS in desktop, can't even use mouse it's so bad
I LOVE THIS OS. I LOVE THIS OS. I LOVE THIS OS. I LOVE THIS OS. I LOVE THIS OS.

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>>109793882
>install linux on PC with a videocard

>>109793882
use your big boy tech words, anon

>>109793882
do you have a nvidia card? the opengl performance with the free drivers is quite abysmal, just install the nvidia driver
it's slow because it's an experimental driver running opengl on top of vulkan

>>109793222
What's your gpu?

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New KDE app just dropped

https://thelibre.news/announcing-plasma-studio/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFAO3b0AeZ0

>>109794409
I fixed it already. That any modern OS could be so fucked out of the box I have to drop to tty to fix it is crazy though. This OS will never be adoptable for anyone even vaguely normalfag.

>>109794596
So this is an app but it's also a library? Want to embed an audio editor or video editor in your app for something, then you can easily do it via QML and libstudio?
Sounds like a great idea.

>>109794743
Yes, it seems so that this is something you will be able to do. I've been following this project for a while and it started because there was no hardware accelerated video editing free software on Linux. The guy who programs it also does photography and film so that's a good thing too, he knows what's needed.

>>109769193
tbհ arch is shit, you can literally install all linux distros like arch

>play STALKER 2 through proton at epic settings for hours with both the CPU and GPU at almost 100%
>nothing happens, smooth as butter
>play the native valheim port
>whole PC crashes, as in it restarts by itself
Huh?

>>109794596
Should have just focused on the image editing part, KDE already has Kdenlive for video stuff, and there is Blender for 3D stuff.

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>>109768861
> LINUX FOR CHUDS
https://files.catbox.moe/2ewml9.pdf

bought a gaming pc, throwing linux on it. which is better for vidya, fedora, arch, or mint?

>>109795094
Arch or Fedora would work best.

>>109795112
which of those is better? also should I try their immutable flavors (bazzite or cachy) or stick with the upstream distro?

>>109795156
Both have the newest drivers to install and such so really it's either/or. Fedora is more commercial feeling (owned by Red Hat) while Arch is more indie (even if it's bankrolled by Valve these days because it's the base of SteamOS.)

>>109795094
Fedora

>>109795094
>>109795156
Arch is significantly more work to set up and maintain, but it's not corpo

Have the retards and shitters moved on to something other than arch? Omarchy seems to be the current retard magnet. No one tell them about the good distros.

>>109795112
arch if you like the idea of curating everything you put on your system
fedora if you just want to have something up and running
alternatively you can use cachyOS as a preconfigured arch

>>109795112
>>109795303
>>109795363
did some research and I'm choosing cachy. does the gui really matter for anything besides personal choice? I kinda like cinnamon.

>>109795727
Your DE is just the way you interact with the OS, though I'd recommend KDE instead of Cinnamon because it's more mature.

>>109795743
>because it's more mature
if maturity matters, then why not xfce?

>>109795727
I don't like Cinnamon's file browser, and Cinnamon still only supports X11 (so you won't get HDR, VRR, HiDPI support or mixed refresh rates). And 60% of Cinnamon is written in JavaScript or Python which is concerning.

>>109795762
Because it still doesn't have proper Wayland support yet.

>>109795762
Maturity =/= age
Xfce is very conservative and as such it doesn't have basic QoL features let alone support for HDR monitors.

>>109795777
>>109795764
ok so I should go with kde then for wayland support?

>>109795807
If you're coming from Windows then yeah absolutely KDE is unparalleled

>>109795810
kk, thanks anons

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>tfw only 4 GB of memory and a 40 GB hard drive

Debian 13+Xfce to the rescue.

>>109795156
Bazzite is more stable and harder to break. It's made to be rock solid and maintenance free. But is more restrictive in some aspects, sometimes modding is not as easy or straight forward.
CachyOS has better performance and allows for better personalization. The devs have taken care to make it as stable as possible and it shows, but is still arch underneath and needs your attention from time to time.
So it comes down on how much of a control freak you are.

>>109796164
I mean if modding can be done within the /home folder then it's just as normal.

>>109795727
The DE does matter. If you have a good computer, choose Gnome or KDE. Keep in mind there are extensions for Gnome, like dash-to-panel, that make it not as bad as default. Anyway, choose either of these two if you value security and features.

>>109796123
Space usage doesn't differ really. Except for Gentoo maybe as compilations can take up massive amounts of space during the build time.
>>109795727
It's a pick between GTK and Qt.

>>109795727
KDE, Valve uses it on SteamOS. I'm assuming you're just going to game on this machine. Use KDE if you want modern features like a functioning HDR monitor.

>>109795314
It's still CachyOS. Let them go there.

>>109796164
The only issue I have with atomic distors is that you are so at the mercy of the maintainers.
Package removed you used, get fucked bro.

It probably will never really happen, but it theoretically could. Plus Flatpak Browser and 1Password is ass, so I would have to layer them with rpm-ostree.

>>109796616
>It probably will never really happen
I still miss Ksysguard.

>>109787347
No, it's Ubuntu with a funky desktop.
Also depends on the gayms whether you should switch to Lonox or not.
>>109787396
idk how's the support on Bazzite but with neckbeard skills you can get Nvidia card to work on any system.
>>109787555
Not really a Linux question but: what's the preferred way of resolving via Tor? I mean are there internal public resolvers inside the Tor network so I could use an onion address as my DNS service?

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2GB for an operating system and LightDM/Xfce? Is that too much?

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>>109796865
>/dev/vda
Neckbearding with virtual machines eh? If you want to get all minimal and shit, fire up the kernel from the host system if possible.
Also a VM-only kernel can be super small too as there's no "real" hardware. Assumed you are into compiling your own.
>/dev/vda1
>/dev/vda2
And when you do that, you can ditch having partition tables too.

>>109794424
rx 5700

>>109795004
>Should have just focused on the image editing part
Krita? Kdenlive is pretty slow because it uses software rendering.

>>109770404
they test some meme shit no one uses on 99% of sites and if it's slow your browser's points get docked

>kde still doesn't have a smb connection manger to "mount" an smb share in a non retarded way
grok, write one for me

>>109787609
wake me up when git clone returns 429

does gnome cause any issues with gaming, emulators, etc. these days?

>>109797203
Not many, it's just hasn't implemented some of the things kde has like vrr and hdr protocols, but neither have other WMs.

>>109797309
both can be turned on via dconf (totally not a registry). there is a reason why valve choose kde instead of gnome.

>>109788920
>>109789067
gpu screen recorder uses the pulseaudio api. I guess the reason it worked while the others didn't might have been that I guess you installed it from flatpak while the others are system packages? flatpak sets its own environment variables

>>109794613
A normalfag wouldn't manually install Linux like you're doing. A pre-installed distro wouldn't have this problem. Also this issue does not exist in most of the popular distributions. Any "beginner" distro won't have this problem.

You're mad over nothing, or at best you're mad for shooting yourself in the foot.

>>109796865
I'm not sure how heavy LightDM+Xfce is, but openbox and similar projects are usable on 1GB RAM devices.

>>109796989
Apparently they got some EU funding specifically to make shit like this work as seamlessly as possible. It should be ready within 2 years.

>>109796641
Somebody already ported it back to Plasma 6:
https://github.com/zvova7890/ksysguard6

>>109797543
>>109796641
I've got a Debian installer for ksysguard6: https://github.com/ihateSELinux/ksysguard6-debian

why am i suddenly getting video unavailable on brave origin now