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Previous thread: >>109768861
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>>109798826
If Devuan/Debian nerds help out I'll try using these distros more... I had to go back to Windows for a bit. Just wanted a comfy offline installation without USB use.
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>>109801131
>ventoy
you're part of the botnet now
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>>109801166
Never used it, thankfully. Only Rufus and ImgBurn. Also someone had the same issue before: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7055
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>>109801131
>ventoy blockdev error
>ventoy
>DVD
Why are you using ventoy on a DVD? Am I missing something?
Also, I hope you used the DVD version of the debian installer: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/
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>>109801131
>without USB use.
You could try setting up tftp netbooting so that you can boot over the network.
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>>109801198
>Why are you using ventoy on a DVD? Am I missing something?
See the post above.
>Also, I hope you used the DVD version of the debian installer
Uh, I did. But I can't finish the installation because it asks me for another disc. I thought only one was adequate? I could just burn another one soon enough.

>>109801221
>You could try setting up tftp netbooting so that you can boot over the network
Sure, I could, but why can't I do it fully offline? Akin to Windows.
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I've been using LXQt on Debian 13 for quite a while now but I might try out XFCE because apparently it supports Wayland on Debian 13, while LXQt's Wayland support isn't in Debian 13 (it is in more recent distros though)

Should I try XFCE with Wayland on Debian 13? Is XFCE good?
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>>109801778
It's not ready
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>>109801778
What the fuck are the Debian packagers smoking to package the Wayland session for XFCE but not LXQt? LXQt uses KWin as its compositor which is actually mature.
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>>109801871
yeah it works great. what the hell is debian doing
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>>109801778
Xfce's Wayland session is years away from feature parity let alone implementing the Wayland features people actually care about.
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>>109801858
I see. Maybe I'll try it at some point if I can be bothered.

>>109801921
I don't need every feature. I just read how Wayland is supposed to be more secure because it's more difficult for an application to see what another application is doing, or something like that.
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>>109800898
Is the Antix working? I can't download the ISO and i don't know how to solve it, someone knows how solve the problem?
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>>109800898
weirdly specific question.
I have a laptop running mint.
I recently got an old m3 mac for it's video editing software and so it can sync with my ipad and phone.
I want to use the laptop running mint as a server or mini pc.
It's goals are
>file back up
>Downloading movies
>Stock trading monitoring
>personal ai projects
The problem I am running into is being able to access it from anywhere.
I'd like to just mirror the screen on my mac and manage the files from there.
I've used rust desk, but this seems to require an input on both devices to work.
Any suggestions?
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>>109801949
>I don't need every feature
Dude you don't even have keyboard shortcuts or adjustable mouse settings. Xfce's Wayland session is pre-alpha and the security aspect of Wayland is complete snake oil.
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Is there a preferred BitTorrent client among Linux users?
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>>109802248
qbittorrent
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>>109802248
QBittorrent for me, dunno if it's any different from Ktorrent
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>>109802248
Aria2 if you don't want or need a heavy client and are looking for a simple CLI downloader
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Any historical value in backing up the contents of this USB? It's got Debian 6, Joe's Window Manager, and some stuff for pox/a wifi server. Probably from mid to early 2010's based on the age of the drive itself.
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>>109801778
>>109801921
can't you pick another wayland sesssion in xfce instead of xfwm, lxqt comes with labwc for wayland by default
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>>109803015
Throw it on archive.org
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One of the updates(updated like an hour aho) ruined my cachyos plasma gui entry after a reboot.
I always get stuck on after inserting my password and pressing enter: It shows kde logo, black screen or my desktop but unresponsive after each reboot. Keyboard stops working after trying to enter my dekstop. Using sddm. I have both plasma way land and x11 session. Whats is going on?
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Installed Mint on a spare laptop a few months ago to familiarize myself with Linux in case Windows completely shits itself and I have to switch. Pretty happy with is to far and I can see myself daily driving it in the future, but I was kinda shocked by how out of date its system packages are (not that it probably matters to me, I have Windows machines with software installed 3/5/10 years ago that I never bothered to update, and Flatpaks/AppImages exist) and every so often I come across some minor annoyance that I have to configure or work around (probably just a switching-to-Linux thing that will haunt me regardless of distro I choose)
Should I try some other distros or just wait for Mint 23 and see how upgrading to it goes first? I like the idea of having a stable distro (which is why I initially tried Debian) but being two years behind on potentially important updates sounds a bit much.
I was also considering Fedora with KDE Plasma but I heard too many things about KDE being buggy or Fedora breaking shit with major updates and I don't know if it's an actual common issue or just negative confirmation bias.
Some examples of current nitpicks that mildly annoy me and I haven't worked around yet:
>I have to use the terminal to disable finger/touch controls on my drawing tablet after every reboot. Not a big deal, but annoying that I can't just set it to always be off or edit it via GUI
>Nemo doesn't have a sidebar with file preview, which is a huge bummer. Apparently KDE has it?
>Filenames starting with an underscore aren't sorted as first, which I guess is a unix thing, but I heard KDE can do that without messing with system locale files
Just want to hear your suggestions for something that just werks out of the box with minimal configuration that I could also install on my tech illiterate relatives' toasters.
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>>109804006
Self-reply
Now it worked. I logged in to my desktop and everything responds but im afraid if i reboot again issue will repeat.. is there a way to prevent it? Before this shitty update i was entering my desktop without any issues
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>>109804022
Mint is so ass
>I was also considering Fedora with KDE Plasma but I heard too many things about KDE being buggy
Plasma 6 has been absolutely fantastic since like 6.3.x, and it's been many years since Plasma was truly shit.
>Fedora breaking shit with major updates
Fedora has really good QA, but if you rely on copr repos or build stuff from source, then updates will break them.
>I have to use the terminal to disable finger/touch controls on my drawing tablet after every reboot
I can't comment since my drawing tablet doesn't have finger controls
>Nemo doesn't have a sidebar with file preview, which is a huge bummer. Apparently KDE has it?
That it does.
>Filenames starting with an underscore aren't sorted as first, which I guess is a unix thing, but I heard KDE can do that without messing with system locale files
Seems to be the default behaviour on KDE
I reckon Fedora KDE or Debian KDE would be best. Fedora if you want the latest updates and Debian if you don't.
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I keep accidentally updating and it breaks a bunch of my flatpak apps and my bluetooth manager and I keep needing to use timeshift to fix it and its pissing me the frick off
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>>109804022
KDE is pretty much the only Linux DE which has a lot of functionality and easy customization without requiring extensive manual work.
You should try other Linux distros. Kubuntu, CachyOS and Fedora for example. Not necessarily because these are what I'd consider the distros you should use, but it should give you enough of a feel for what you are looking for and what you can live with.
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>>109804082
>>109804022
>Fedora if you want the latest updates and Debian if you don't.
And for the record, even Debian has far newer packages than Mint does currently: Mint is currently using Ubuntu 24.04 (April 2024) as a base, while Debian 13 came out in August last year.

Mint is going to move to Ubuntu 26.04 this December (eight months late lol), but Debian 14 will release next year around July.

The cycle is basically this:
>Mint spends 8 months being 8 months ahead of Debian
>Mint spends 16 months being 16 months behind Debian
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>>109804082
>>109804181
Noted, thanks, I'll probably try Fedora in a VM later because I don't want to reinstall the whole OS just yet
Ironically, a great example of Mint's outdated packages being an issue: Mint was updated to use Kernel 7 a few months ago, but the system package for VirtualBox is so out of date that it's completely incompatible with it and apparently can brick the entire system
Ironically LMDE is currently more up to date than Vanilla Mint, which I wasn't aware of when first installing it
One reason I avoided Fedora is also because apparently some media codecs are hosted by Cisco, who are being niggers and region blocking some countries while Fedora is too cucked to natively provide alternative hosts for them, I'll probably just try to work around that
>>109804173
Gotcha, cheers. I've heard enough bad things about Canonical to not want to use Ubuntu, but since apparently some proprietary packages are only available as snaps maybe I should just bite the bullet and see how bad it is
Heard a lot of people praise CachyOS (even got some friends who switched to it because they only use their PC for gayman), but I don't think I'd be comfortable with an Arch/rolling release model
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Disgusting
You dont want to help me? Not a discord friend?
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>>109804216
Ubuntu is "fine", or decent enough for your average Joe, the issue comes when you want to do things your own way. I remember trying Kubuntu once and wanted to install regular Firefox ESR (so no flatpak or snap shit), and I had to jump through hoops just to do it. It's the little annoyances that get to you.

>but I don't think I'd be comfortable with an Arch/rolling release model
That's fair, but I think some users exaggerate the stabilty of Arch-based distros. Like, nobody is forcing you to update daily lol. And if something were to happen after an update, you can always restore to a previous functional state with something like Timeshift. And nowadays you can install an Arch-based OS thanks to distros like Endeavour or Cachy as you mentioned. I'd say it's worth a try on a VM or spare computer at least. I personally don't like Cachy, but I understand why it's so popular.

KDE is pretty good. I know anons like to use the "krashes" meme, but in my personal experience I've never had any issues with it, and on Arch of all things. KDE is closer to something like W10/11 compared to Cinnamon on Mint, so if you want something more "modern" then it's also worth a try.
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>>109801986
I've had some success using tailscale, similar situation
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>>109804302
>Like, nobody is forcing you to update daily lol
What if your keys expire or you miss incremental updates with important post-install scripts?
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>>109804302
Ubuntu is made by Jew greedy faggots as a goyslop treatment and drawing beginner Linux users into their corporate boiling frog walled garden.
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>>109804302
>nobody is forcing you to update daily lol
That's fair, I just don't like having pending updates. Although if I need something to be completely stable and unchanging I usually just download a portable version/AppImage and keep it on a specific version (apparently Krita devs even recommend doing that over installing from repos/flatpak because otherwise there are sometimes issues with library compatibility)
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I have two questions, maybe someone knows.
I use a SAN at home and have for quite a while, but recently one of my CentOS systems has stopped recognizing it. The connects and data still exist.
I use a virtual gateway to connect to my home system (ssh) and it randomly fails where it won't recognize creds.
I expect both issues are the same problem, but I don't see why. They're using normal ssl keys.
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>>109804357
>CentOS
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>>109804357
SSH tunnel? From my experience those break often.
>>109804302
>I think some users exaggerate the stabilty of Arch-based distros
Well, a rolling release distro can never be stable, assumed by stability we mean the package version stability.
>nobody is forcing you to update daily
This. Some anons like to nag about the amount of downloads caused by updates but I think it's all peanuts. At least compared to Gentoo testing that likes to pull shitloads of updates at least twice a week. (those source packages are big compared to binaries)
>>109802248
Transmission is what I consider the default, it's less bloaty than qBittorrent. There's also a daemon version of it and that's what some ROUTERS use btw.
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>>109804350
>I just don't like having pending updates.
Then turn off the notifications and manually update whenever you want. It's not going to magically or all of a sudden update itself without you commanding it to. Are you coming from windows? Because this isn't a problem on linux.
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>>109804302
>KDE is closer to something like W10/11 compared to Cinnamon on Mint
W10 and W11 don't have the smörgåsbord of customization available on KDE anon. I would compare it to XP and Win7 levels of ricing. Webm related.
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>>109804523
>Some anons like to nag about the amount of downloads caused by updates
It's about the signal-to-noise ratio. Nobody likes it when they receive a Discover notification on their taskbar, automatically assume it's gonna be something important, but then it's just gigabytes and gigabytes of library updates with zero user-facing benefit. If Firefox has an update, I wish to install it immediately; I do not wish to be informed WHATSOEVER about updates to libfdt.
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>>109804566
>signal-to-noise ratio
Huh?
>gigabytes and gigabytes of library updates
Never happens, libraries are small. The only time there's literal gigabytes of downloads is when the god damn Google Noto fonts update.
I personally got a download speed of 10Mbit/s (yes, really, 10) and honestly don't get the fuss about some daily downloads that average to a dozen megabytes.
>>109804361
Isn't CentOS Stream exactly what you want for a server?
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>>109804600
>Huh?
In this case, the "signal" would be updates to user applications, mesa, or anything that actually tangibly benefits everyday desktop use. The "noise" here is the crap nobody cares about but Discover feels the need to notify you of.
>libraries are small
Doesn't matter when you have a fuckton of them
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>>109804600
>The only time there's literal gigabytes of downloads
Also, I dunno about Arch, but Fedora has gigabytes of updates daily.
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>>109804566
>>109804613
dnf upgrade-minimal --advisory-severities=critical,important

I dunno what discover does or how it handles the updates but you can just use that. I'd assume other distros have similar methods.
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>>109804613
Oh. Why would a point release distribution do that?
How is it even possible to have more updoots than Arch?
>>109804958
>I'd assume other distros have similar methods.
I've only ever used Debian, Ubuntu, Arch and Gentoo and as far as I know there isn't anything similar.
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How's one able to see peripheral device information like in windows' device manager? Windows shows all kinds of info, exact model name, including production date etc. I want to see that. Using mint.
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>>109805838
Generically on any system: lspci lists PCI(e) devices and lsusb lists USB devices.
>exact model name, including production date etc
That information doesn't usually come from the device itself, it's a database (PCI ID repository) lookup so lspci/lsusb can list a fancy human readable name. Some extremely minimal systems (like what you find from routers for example) don't have it and all you see is the numeral device ID.
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Rocky Linux is supposedly Red Hat stable. What's the verdict /g/?
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>>109806345
Rocky Linux and Alma Linux are basically binary compatible clones of CentOS before Red Hat changed everything. If you use Rocky, you're basically using CentOS which in itself is a binary compatible free version of RHEL.
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>>109806369
So that is the Debian of RPM based distro out there? They dropped Xfce in the latest version.
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>>109806345
Don't use it as a daily driver, the UI is really sluggish for some reason. Like mouse delay. Go straight for fedora
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>>109802248
>>109802275
>>109802277
>>109804523
I like Transmission myself, I tried qBitTorrent once, but Transmission is my regular torrent app

Transmission has both GTK and Qt interfaces, at least on Debian, which is pretty cool
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>>109806562
qBittorrent has more features but Transmission is more simple, but both use the exact same torrent backend so really its either/or.
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>>109805091
On Gentoo you just upgrade whatever you want whenever you want. If you only wanted to get security upgrades then you'd use glsa-check to list the packages affected and then just upgrade those packages only.
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>>109801949
>it's more difficult for an application to see what another application is doing, or something like that.
I never understood where this comes from because there's already wayland applications that can record the screen, record keystrokes, read the clipboard, etc.
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>>109803591
lxqt and xfce have different approaches to wayland
xfce is writing their own compositor from scratch for wayland while lxqt just uses pre-existing wlroots compositors like labwc wayfire sway
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>>109806575
i thought qbit and deluge uses libtorrent-rasterbar while transmission uses their own backend?
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>>109806864
Actually yeah looking into them qBit and Deluge use libtorrent-rasterbar and Transmission uses libtransmission.
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>>109801871
the weirdest part is that the wayland session package for lxqt is just a bunch of scripts and plaintext config files
>LXQt uses KWin as its compositor which is actually mature.
lxqt uses whatever compositor you want it to use not specifically kwin
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>>109806898
Anything that implements the wlroots protocols at least. KWin is just a popular default because of its maturity, plus its Qt based just like LXQt.
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kwriteconfig6 --file kdeglobals --group "KFileDialog Settings" --key "Places Icons Auto-resize" "false" && \
kwriteconfig6 --file kdeglobals --group "KFileDialog Settings" --key "Places Icons Static Size" "22" && \
kwriteconfig6 --file kdeglobals --group "KFileDialog Settings" --key "detailViewIconSize" "22" && \
kwriteconfig6 --file kdeglobals --group "KFileDialog Settings" --key "iconViewIconSize" "128"
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>>109807255
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kwriteconfig6

Is this regedit for kde?
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>>109807517
it saves those changed to a text file. idk what you call that.
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Thoughts on Omarchy? I think it's basically a customised version of Arch Linux. It's meant to be easy to use I think.

Founded by DHH (the guy who made Ruby on Rails) and financially backed by rich people. Pic related.

Some people don't like DHH because they think he's racist.
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>>109807538
Derivative distros are the big hard gay. No exceptions.
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>>109807538
It's basically just Arch using a preconfigured Hyprland interface. Works fine, but his extreme geopolitical views he loves talking about weird out some people.
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>>109804566
>Nobody likes it when they receive a Discover notification on their taskbar, automatically assume it's gonna be something important
Is this a new Windowsism? Important updates never have any special notification. If you don't want to see the notification just disable it
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>>109807538
they are probably behind those aur hacks with all that money they got.
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>>109807577
>Important updates never have any special notification.
The little bubble is red instead of blue if your distro is set up to communicate update urgency, but I agree it's stupid as hell to ape Windows Update.
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>ree it's just like windwos
>ree it's red
idk i only saw it turn red after the install because fedora doesn't update during the install
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>>109807538
Feels too little, too late. Maybe 5 years ago or before AI. Nowadays you can have whatever ai make you a build for guix or nixos.
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>>109807551
Is it a derivate even? I know shit but browsing their Git repository for a minute made it look like a bunch of configuration files instead of a whole system. Like it's actually just Arch but with some configs.
>>109806575
There's the search function and country flags in the peer list but is there more to it? Only if Transmission had the country flags I'd be pleased with it.
>>109806610
>glsa-check
Huh, never heard of that one before.
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>>109807863
>>glsa-check
>Huh, never heard of that one before.
Its basic just a CLI tool for their security database:
https://security.gentoo.org/

I think Arch has a similar tool too, although they don't support partial updates so every update might as well be considered a security update there.
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Is there a particular photo "tagging" software people recommend on Linux?

For example, I have a bunch of photos originally from my phone, but I have now copied them to my desktop. I want to add tags like "home" or "cooking" or "work" to certain images, and then be able to filter the images to only show certain tags in some sort of photo viewer. An image could have more than one tag associated with it, so just grouping by directory isn't quite good enough. Is there an existing tool for such a thing, or do I have to write my own?
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Can't install aurutils on Cachy?
I'm following the man page. I've installed it before on Arch.
Only slight difference is that the first repo-add /home/myusername/custompkgs/custom.db.tar.gz gives
[ERROR] No changes made to package database.
instead of complaining that it's empty like before (I don't really remember) and there is no custom.db after that (don't remember if this was the case before as I didn't cd there and check after every command)
custompkgs]$ repo-add -n custom.db.tar.gz ../aurutils/aurutils-20.5.8-1-any.pkg.tar.zst
[INFO] Adding package '../aurutils/aurutils-20.5.8-1-any.pkg.tar.zst'
[INFO] Computing checksums...
[INFO] Creating 'desc' db entry...
[INFO] Creating 'files' db entry...
[INFO] Creating updated database file 'custom.db.tar.gz'
works, adds aurutils into the db and and creates all the files
but sudo pacman -Syu
still gets me error: failed retrieving file 'custom.db' from disk : Could not open file /home/myusername/custompkgs/custom.db
error: failed to synchronize all databases (failed to retrieve some files)
Which makes no sense as I can copy and cd into /home/myusername/custompkgs/ from the error and see that custom.db exists there
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>>109808036
https://hydrusnetwork.github.io/hydrus/index.html
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>>109801131
I had problems with devuan isos too, only the live iso worked for me, I suggest using that.
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>>109804082
Is this dolphin with aeroplasmatheme?
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>>109807863
>Is it a derivate even? I know shit but browsing their Git repository for a minute made it look like a bunch of configuration files instead of a whole system. Like it's actually just Arch but with some configs.
That's actually worse because now you're just blindly changing configs on an OS with constant config merges and hoping upstream won't break it.
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>>109808094
interesting, thanks anon
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Is it just normal for Deluge on Debian to only use IPv4? I only get IPv6 peers in Transmission.
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>>109808390
Deluge is fucking garbage; who cares. Use Bigly if Transmission doesn't do enough for you, or qbt if you feel like freeballing mid C++ on the internet.
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>>109808188
Looks like Oxygen
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>>109807538
Money laundering scheme.
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>>109800898
Is there a way for xautolock to detect if media is currently playing and avoid locking the screen if so? and if forced to activate, pause the media currently playing? If not, then I'll go back to xssstate lol.

>>109807538
I don't give a shit about DHH's views (either political or about AI), but I find his attitude childish. Bastard has great hair I'll give him that (I'm definitely not jelly). Omarchy is just riced Arch with garbage installed by default, only reason it became so popular it's because it got shilled by "linuxtubers". There were already similar projects before. Also, didn't DHH made a similar project before but based on Ubuntu?
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>>109808173
Yeah. If the discs aren't going to work then I'll just take out a USB.
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>>109807579
Grok, is this true?
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>>109804051
Maybe roll back to the latest snapshot?
Seems the tards on the cachyos subplebbit are having similar issues
https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/cachyos/comments/1wf852d/after_the_latest_update_everything_seems_to/
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>>109807538
Too early to tell if it's gonna be anything major. So far it seems like a monetary takeover of projects and a couple of millionaires patting each others backs.
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>>109809229
It's essentially just money for his mates. It seems a lot of projects like Arch are turning down the money so in the end some of it is going to Vaxry to develop Hyprland but the fuck is the rest going?

It smells like some sort of money laundering going on
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>quit game button says "exit to windows"
>I'm actually on linux
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>>109809489
hello stalker
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>>109809489
Devilish.
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As a 35 year old boomer who hasn't used Linux in like 13 years, is arch + dwm still the way to go?
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>>109809644
expired tranny
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>>109809644
i don't use tiling wms, but i've been using kde for the past year or so. plasma is unironically very good now
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>>109809658
if he was a tranny he would never have stopped using linux
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>>109809670
hence the expired prefix
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>>109809658
I thought this was the friendly GNU/Linux thread
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>>109809686
not an insult unless you perceive it as that
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>>109809644
Arch is still fine. Hyprland is the new hotness
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>>109810299
More of an LXQt guy myself
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what do i need to put in the mpv config to make the player resolution always the same regardless of the video's resolution.
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>>109810853
autofit-larger
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>>109810552
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What's the preferred method of playing cracked games on Linux?
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>refresh discover
>183 new updates for packages
>sudo dnf check-update
>like 20 new updates
>sudo dnf check-updates --refresh
>still only 20 new updates
>sudo dnf check-updates --refresh
>183 new updates
dnf is really a piece of shit
>>109810972
"preinstalled" zips of games
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>>109810979
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>>109810972
through faugus
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any issues you're having lately?
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Swapped to linux bazzite because i'm too retarded for real linux. this is amazing. What's the catch? When is the hammer going to drop? I figured i'd be in the terminal for hours dicking with drivers or whatever. I click install and it works. The end.
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>>109811303
i have to ask. is it really that hard to run a few commands in the terminal?
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>>109811046
he is me
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>>109811303
immutables are cool but the real problem is that a lot of the documentation online doesn't apply to them
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>>109811189
Running dolphin on non-kde, have to run it with QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=kde dolphin so it picks up the custom colors from kdeglobals so it matches everything else.
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>>109811322
brother your image is basically greek. what is full ffmpeg and why do i want it
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>>109811525
>what is
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>>109811303
You can't install kernel drivers on immutables. Usually this isn't a problem as these distros try to include drivers for everything by default.
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>>109811823
>You can't install kernel drivers on immutables.
yes, you layer them on. this goes for any possible missing "system" (for the lack of a better term) component like some VPN services, firmware or even printer stuff.
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>>109811830
>yes, you layer them on
Then they get nuked when the image rebases
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>>109811868
no? that's only on steamos
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>>109808723
I've switched over to Transmission but it isn't very verbose. I'll give Bigly a try too at some point. The Greybird-Dark theme isn't working with Transmission but I guess I can try another dark theme.
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>>109807863
If you are on Debian, the country flags are outdated anyway. They reverted the package to an older database because apparently you need a licence to to have a more recent geo database of ip addresses.
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>>109811830
It's not that simple. I tried the VHBA driver on Fedora Atomic and it just straight up failed with no solution. Layering in general doesn't work that well in my experience, sometimes updates don't apply until you remove all the layers.
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>>109811189
>try to do something that was easy on windows
>it's really complicated on linux
>give up
>"oh well I didn't really need to do that anyway"
my linux experience so far
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i want to dual boot archlinux with windows
i have manually installed arch many times, i want to use archinstall this time
i will make the partitions myself
can archinstall fuck this up?
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>>109812041
why do you need windows?
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>>109812041
Install windows first
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>>109811189
Just installed Debian KDE. Dunno if it's the old AMD drivers or the old version of AeroThemePlasma but my aero blur effect looks really bad. I'll take a screenshot when I get home and compare it to how it looks on Fedora.
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>>109811979
Hah, remember that one. It happened like a decade ago, right?
>>109811303
>in the terminal for hours dicking with drivers or whatever
Thing is people like the terminal because it's handy.
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fedora has telemetry?
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Is bodhi abandonware
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>>109812480
These days Bodhi is basically just another Ubuntu LTS fork to throw on the pile aka why bother.
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>>109811571
In english, doc.
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>>109807538
>Shopify
>Dell
>Cloudflare
>>>>>>>>>>coinbase
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>>109807538
It's like Project Bluefin, something designed to target specific developers, but instead of getting input from people actually working with Linux in companies like Bluefin does they got input from 19 year olds who think Linux is 3p1c 1337 h4xx0rzzz. But unlike Bluefin they aren't even building any new unique infrastructure themselves, from what I know it's not even on the level of CachyOS that at least provides some things back, it's just an installer for things that already exist.
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What linus distro should I use if I cannot into terminal?
I've tried Debian and I just can't, every single set of directions to do anything never works out of the box. Fighting ect/apt not existing or some basic command not being recognized in tty every other time I need to do anything is just too much.
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>>109812810
>What linus distro should I use if I cannot into terminal?
>I've tried Debian and I just can't, every single set of directions to do anything never works out of the box
Did you use the net installer or a Live ISO? You shouldn't have to use a terminal for any of the Live ISOs because they just come with a preconfigured desktop.
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>>109812810
Fedora or Mint or Ubuntu probably
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>>109812297
nvm I just had the blur level set too low. I was basically just seeing bilinear artefacting
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>>109810979
>using the CLI to manage apps when you have a DE

>>109811303
>When is the hammer going to drop
If you ever get some piece of hardware that doesn't have drivers already built into the kernel or the Bazzite image then you'll be filtered out of using immutable distributions. But it rarely happens so you will be fine.

>>109812810
Bazzite like the other anon.
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>>109809489
GOT EM
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Alright, question. New distro, new drive, I'm trying to partition this in a way conducive to distro hopping. It formatted the new drive entirely to the new one.

I'm fresh to Linux. I'm trying to partition it so I basically have the distro/required files on one like 100-150GB partition, the rest of my whole 4TB drive on another for data, and my /home/ folder on that. The idea is to put basically all the "usable" stuff on the full drive, and just keep the smaller portion as whatever basic setup/required files/drivers for the distro, so if I fuck around with one and want to hop over to it, I can just format that portion and install it there.

Step-by-step, how do I do that safely? It almost looks like I could just use Gparted to do it as the "rightmost" partition, but I don't want to assume it's simple and then nuke my drive, even if I don't have much set up on it yet.
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>>109813171
>partition this in a way conducive to distro hopping
That would simply be 1 partition for the distro as a whole, and 1 partition for storing transferable data.
>4TB drive on another for data, and my /home/ folder on that.
Home folders are not transferable between distributions. They don't just contain your data, they contain a ton of other shit like distro-specific configuration, config files specific to specific package versions, cache, etc. Transferring the entire home is a bad idea.

The correct way to distro hop is to set up a partition where only specific folders and files are stored and doing a full clean install every time (starting with a fresh home folder each time). See the attached pic. The "persistent data partition" would hold your actual files/folders, while your distro partition would just link to those.
>Hop to a new distro
>Do a full clean install in the 150GB partition
>Reboot into it
>Delete each of these folders from your newly created home folder
>Replace the deleted folders with symlinks to the same folders in the persistent storage partition
This is a much cleaner and more stable approach.
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Should I use linux if I have a lot of small files like tens of thousands of images instead of ntfs on windows
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Looks like this week's DistroWatch poll has been taken over by bots. About as useful as the top distro list.
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>>109812348
They updated it a few months ago to a 2019 database. If you didn't hold back the package, you will now have inaccurate flags in applications.
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>>109813461
A ton of their polls are botted. The website is completely useless outside of the actual RSS feed.
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>>109813575
I wonder why it's still going. It needs a better approach at promoting distributions. I find it useful for its advanced search.
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>>109807538
I'm incredibly annoyed, because the sounds of it I like DHH politically, but his operating system is astroturfed AI garbage that is in fact POORLY opinionated, full of security concerns, and focused on an "agentic" experience.
Absolute garbage. Literally nobody should use this, and I do mean that, this is a distro that nobody should use.
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>>109813686
Having an agent assistant for your OS is completely fine. If anything most people would probably want that as a feature as long as it is implemented well.
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>>109813724
Yeah if you use a local model trained in such a way to focus on being agentic you can have a pretty neat lil AI friend in your computer. Like a trained Gemma 4 for example.
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>>109813461
I don't know why anyone gives that site the time of day, it's incredibly useless.
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Yazi is a great file manager.
I don't update it that often at all. Looking at their recent updates, it now has drag-and-drop support and automatic theme switching, along with some other bloat.
Who the hell needs dark and light themes in a terminal program anyway? It would probably be a good idea to just make a backup of this repository before it gets completely enshittified...
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>>109814262
>Yazi is a great file manager.
It is, but the one thing I wish is that I could find a way to make preview generation a faster/smoother experience. Loading a directory full of images, or worse, videos, can require you to sit and wait anywhere from 5 to 30 seconds. Maybe multiple times as you continue to scroll down.
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Today I will work on my NixOS VM. God I love being unemployed
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>>109813307
Now, I'm slightly confused but thank you for the response and graphic. I think, effectively, that's exactly what I'm trying to do. My confusion may just be because of my still trying to figure out the exact file structure Linux uses. I'd also asked similar before and several anons mentioned maybe having a separate/moved /home folder and I'm finding some tutorials on how to move it via terminal, so I'm surprised you'd say that isn't viable/advisable.

That being said, again, that looks like about exactly what I'm trying to do. All the media, desktop, settings, etc. in one persistent place, distro and all on a smaller one. Would this keep installed programs/flatpaks necessarily, settings for them? Transfer settings for games or programs as well? That's the other thing, don't want to have go restart all configs/settings/browser shit, etc. every time I'd do it.

Thanks for the advice though, once I get the particulars and wrap my head around it this looks correct.
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>Try to pretty up KDE Plasma
>Themes available in store
>Find quite a few that look great
>All screenshots have transparent/glassy windows
>Download and apply
>Every single one has solid windows and looks like shit in comparison

Is there a checkbox I'm missing somewhere or what
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>>109815133
can't wait for them to redo their theming system
it's so fucking ass
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>>109814872
Based. For me? play around with qubesos
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Let's say I got a HDD with EXT4 and been deleting some files as usual but want to make sure the data isn't going to be recovered later. For SSDs I'd simply do fstrim.
How does one fstrim a HDD?
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>>109815095
>Would this keep installed programs/flatpaks necessarily, settings for them
Your Flatpak data is in .var in your home folder (/home/username/.var/), which is there in that pic. So as long as you have that in your backup partition, all your Flatpak data is safe even if you have to re-install your Flatpak apps.
Programs themselves are not transferable between distros, except for Appimages and Flatpaks. However, when it comes to Flatpaks the way you should transfer them is by using the "custom installation" feature in Flatpak. This is basically you setting up a custom install path for your Flatpak apps.

>several anons mentioned maybe having a separate/moved /home folder
Don't do this. It is technically possible to have a single re-usable home folder, but it is just going to cause issues the more you distro hop. Just transfer over the individual sub-folders and cherry-pick which config files you want to transfer over.
Re-using the home folder only makes sense if you're reinstalling the same, identical distribution and distro version.
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is there a repo for appimages? i dont like any other file format and checking each of my programs websites individually for updates gets old
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>>109815464
There's a terminal program called AM which acts like a "repo" for appimages (or the GUI version called AppMan.)
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>>109815477
Also a GUI one called Gear Lever as well.
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>>109815305
Use encryption if you don't want data to be recoverable. Drives can't be trusted to delete their own contents.

TRIM notifies the host device that space may be overwritten. It isn't a guarantee the space will be overwritten. It may be retired as-is. Some SMR HDDs have TRIM, but that's not broadly considered a positive.
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>>109815464
Gear Lever and AppImageLauncher
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>>109815133
>>109815144
Breeze is good, at least its light theme, Breeze Dark looks retarded specially the wallpapers. Is that why they always use screenshots of the light theme when showcasing Plasma? kek.
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>>109815133
>Is there a checkbox I'm missing somewhere or what
Basically, yeah. Most themese using transparency need Kvantum and make sure blur is active on Desktop Effects on system settings.
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>want to leave Arch to not having to maintain my system anymore
>always come back because of the convenience of AUR
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>>109816043
is it really that convenient? how much time are you saving over apt or flatpak?
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>>109815808
Ah, yep, that'd do it, thanks. I'll adjust from there. Bit fucking stupid most of them don't have "Get Kvantum to look right" on there but I guess it's assumed. Cheers, anon.
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I've just installed Debian 13 but I haven't played any games yet. Anyone know whether the amdgpu and Mesa in Debian 13 are OK? I've got a 9070 XT and am aiming for 1440p 120Hz. I'd prefer not to mess with backports because of dependency scrambling.
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>>109812041
If you've manually installed arch many times then you would know that its easier to manually install arch than to use something like archinstall
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>>109815305
Use the shred command
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>0 response for a simple question
Wow really expected behavior from a loonix circle. Guess I wouldn't want to be associated after all.
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>>109817570
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>>109804022
>>109804082
>>109804181
Mint is a stable release only distro for new linux users thats designed to be as approachable as possible for a user transitioning from windows.
By design its not going to have the latest packages, or really any build beyond the most recent one thats known to be stable on all devices.
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>>109800898
Am I allowed here if I use Musl/Linux instead of GNU? Alpine is just too comfy.
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>>109817740
>Mint
>stable
This doesn't mean what you think it means. What it translates to is "Mint is intentionally outdated".
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>>109814872
Anduril Industries wants you.
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Too scary to switch what if I need something from windows in the future
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>>109817836
as long as you don't covertly bitch about nvidia drivers not working
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>>109818049
virt-manager and bottles/wine are your friends
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why don't more devs make appimages of their programs
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>>109818349
Most devs don't know how to make Linux software.
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>>109818349
most appimage makers can't even implement a self updating mechanism
one step after the other
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if you guys had told me that q4os doesnt need a usb to install i wouldve switched to linux a long time ago
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>>109818404
In my opinion, AppImage updates should apply delta patches to the .AppImage
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>>109818991
how do you feel about the freetube approach? (save user data in a separate folder and make users swap out appimages for each update)
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>>109819051
>make users swap out appimages for each update
I like it when updates are somewhat automated. A "Would you like to install the latest update?" with a simple changelog is best. The question for me is where the updates are applied: if it installs the files to some directory in your home folder, then they've basically just recreated Flatpaks, at which point it isn't really a portable app anymore. Overwriting the .AppImage itself makes the most sense to me, though you would have to implement delta patching to ensure you don't need to redownload and rewrite the entire image.
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>>109819169
in freetubes case the saved files are just user data, the program itself is still the appimage
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i like how portable appimages are, especially for games, lets me keep everything nice and tidy
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How is it that AppImages take up less disk space? I thought Flatpaks are meant to share runtimes.
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>>109819220
Single compressed file vs loose files.
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>>109819296
That's believable to an extent, but we're talking about gigabytes of dependencies with Flatpaks.
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>>109819311
A lot of times appimages cheat and use system libraries too. Because they can usually count on being run in host context. Flatpak has to be totally self-contained.
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>>109819339
>A lot of times appimages cheat and use system libraries too
Based
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>>109819339
>A lot of times appimages cheat and use system libraries too
based
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>>109818349
I think enough do. What are you missing?
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>>109819220
They don't have a runtime, just some random libs. Smaller size but less compatible
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>>109819371
>>109819380
Not really because it breaks perpetual forward compatibility.

>>109819438
It has whatever the packager decides to have, which is often not enough. Very few programs have legitimate use cases for appimage.
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>>109819681
>Very few programs have legitimate use cases for appimage
It's just simpler
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>Linux Mint
That's disgusting. I think you should leave before I lose my lunch!
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>>109820131
name a better distro for the tech illiterate(majority of people now moving to linux)
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>>109820380
>name a better distro for the tech illiterate
Literally anything with Plasma 6
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>>109820462
technically you can run plasma on mint, its just takes some setup
that being said, plasma isnt simple or straightforward enough to claim the top spot of DEs for noobs. gnome is the king of that department.
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>>109817452
I know shred but it doesn't answer the question as the files have already been normally deleted. Besides it isn't even possible to force every program out there to "shred" instead of "rm".
>>109815504
Yes, I'm aware that trimming doesn't necessarily remove the data from the flash itself but logically it's all gone. I'm not expecting anyone to desolder the flash chips from my SSD drive and read them thru some magic.
>>109816280
It's convenient to not have Flatpak in the first place.
>>109817570
Is 0 answers better than nonsense?
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>>109820492
If you install Plasma on Mint you got Kubuntu with Flatpaks.
>>109819438
>>109819681
When you take a random AppImage, the compatibility is also random. It's up to the author to decide which libraries to include, there's no "system" in AppImages.
>>109819207
Even tidier to extract all those AppImages under /opt or whatever so you don't even need the AppImage part.
>>109818404
Can they even do that?
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Is there something 'bad' about running a bunch of programs at startup in .xinitrc?
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Any good stable distro options with xfce that isn't Debian based?
Why stable? It's for my old 3rd thinkpad that I only gonna boot once in a while
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Is it possible to run wayland and x11 together? I just want to be able to use xrdp.
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>>109820867
You run Wayland as your main compositor while using the tool XWayland to run X11 programs on top. That's how it's been for a long time.
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>>109820492
>technically you can run plasma on mint, its just takes some setup
Mint's Ubuntu edition is still on Plasma 5. And setting up Plasma on Mint is more trouble than it's worth because you have to remove all of the Cinnamonisms
>plasma isnt simple or straightforward enough to claim the top spot of DEs for noobs. gnome is the king of that department
Plasma is literally just Windows, which is what 99% of people are used to; normies would hate GNOME.
>>109820641
>Can they even do that?
Duckstation and RetroArch do that
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>>109820767
>stable
>isnt debian based
you might have to rethink this
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>>109820767
why not just use debian
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Noticing more differences between a Debian minimal install and the Debian KDE Live ISO. On the minimal install, whenever I install new applications, there's no green circle on the category on the Plasma start menu telling me there's a new app. How do I fix this?
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>>109820963
nvm I made that up, it's not in the Debian KDE Live ISO either
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Dammit, who knoe trying to update discover while updating on the terminal would break my PikaOS, I had to do a fresh install. Next time I'm just putting my music and pictures on SD instead of my nvme. At least I had my backups on Google drive, is there any cloud services minus mega?
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>>109811490
You could just install Qt6ct and configure Qt platform settings in there. Probably you want to use the KDE platform for everything anyway. It's just nicer than the default Qt one
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Whats the deal with Startpage taking loads of time now an revving up CPU like a motherfucker?
Are they somehow using for nefarious purposes now? What else is trusted?
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>>109820616
>It's convenient to not have Flatpak in the first place.
It's debatable if having to run and troubleshoot package build scripts with arbitrary code execution is more convenient. Certainly, there's situations where all of that power can be useful but is it more convenient than
flatpak update
? I'm not so sure.
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>>109821055
Create a separate partition for home and keep your stuff there on your nvme. Run immich if you want a sever
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>>109821095
They have a custom version of Anubis because they got fed up of dealing with AI bots and scrapers. My SearxNG instance hasn't worked since they decided everyone needs to run their Bitcoin miner to perform search results.

There has got to be a better way than this. Ironically, Google seems like the only company that has bot protection that doesn't persecute low-impact individuals on a residential network.
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Why the fuck is this black rectangle popping up on my desktop? It renders over a selection but below any windows and cursor. It's KDE Plasma and showed up last night when I was changing themes. Not interactable. Weird.
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>>109821225
Sounds like GPU bug of some description. Try restarting the shell. Open KRunner or a terminal and run
plasmashell --replace
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>>109815360
Alright, this is cool, thanks. Looking into it further I can see the argument against home on a separate directory instead of just linking from the Media drive.

This is what my drive looks like in Gparted. I'm going to ask the dumb question - what do I do from here to format out the partitions safely? Again, ideally, the boot portions are ideally going to be about 100GBs, which should be enough for programs directly on it, and the remaining 3.5TB or whatever should be the data portion.

I'm asking the dumb question because I see that's on BTRFS and, again, is formatted entirely like that and I don't want to fuck this up again. Do I need to go into a live boot USB and do it with Gparted then or can I just do it like this? Saw some conflicting reports on that.
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I’m trying to track down the cause my system lockups, basically my shit will freeze completely but I can hear sound playing and the only solution is to restart my computer or wait for my display drivers to restart on their own. They seem to happen exclusively when I’m playing demanding games. Installing LACT and setting the power profile to 3d_fullscreen seemed to make the issue less frequent but it still happens. I’ve tried almost everything short of replacing my GPU but I’m starting to wonder if maybe my PSU is the culprit. It’s an 850 watt cooler master PSU and it’s running;

>RX 7900 XTX
>Ryzen 9 9900X3D
>120mm water cooled radiator w/ two fans
>64gb DDR5 @ 6000MHZ
>2 4tb sata SSDs
>1 2tb nvme
>typical external doohickies (controller, kb+m, external dvd drive)

Thoughts? Oh and for what it’s worth I’m running cachyos right now but I’ve tried out many distros and even w*ndows and it had no effect. Either way I got a 1000 watt corsair 80+ platinum for cheap so I’ll try that out, but I’m wondering if I’m just pushing my system too hard.
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>>109813354
yea
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>>109820909
>>109820954
on contrary, I daily drive Debian on main machine in the last 4 years. I'd like to try something else for stable. Surely there's more than Debian and Suse Leap options out there right?
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>>109819051
>save user data in a separate folder
This is already a feature of Appimage. If you have a folder with the same name as the appimage, the appimage will treat that folder as the home directory.

>>109819339
>>109819681
Appimages can be made in such a way where they're still fully portable between distros and backwards compatible just like Flatpaks are, but are still much smaller in size. See:
https://github.com/pkgforge-dev/Anylinux-AppImages
https://pkgforge-dev.github.io/Anylinux-AppImages

>>109820767
Fedora, assuming you're not looking for something that is an actual LTS with more than 1 year of support.
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>>109821260
Hm, shit, that didn't do it. Reset desktop theme too down to layout, still there. Oddly, it seems to fly off to the side when I go into Edit mode. Real weird.
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>>109821803
>Fedora, assuming you're not looking for something that is an actual LTS with more than 1 year of support
I am, sadly the newest Almalinux doesn't ship xfce anymore. And for some bizzare reason fucking suse Leaps ships an experimental wayland xfce ootb.
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>>109821872
>>109821260
Actually, shit, adjacent solution worked; I did

kwin_wayland --replace


and that did it. Weird.
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>>109821889
>the newest Almalinux doesn't ship xfce anymore
I see Rocky Linux also only offers KDE and GNOME. Do they not have Xfce in their repository? You could install it manually. It's a very simple DE to install and set up.

It's not unusual for distros to ship nothing other than KDE and GNOME out of the box considering other DEs are hardly relevant and used by a small minority of Linux users.
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>>109821934
>Do they not have Xfce in their repository?
most likely not on their main repo anymore since version 10
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Been using void in all of my machines for a long time. I was thinking of trying out something new soon-ish. I did save a partition for a second os when I was partitioning my ssd.

Suggestions on a distro to go for? I want something without systemd. Are artix or gentoo basically my only options?
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>>109822191
Also Alpine Linux and Devuan
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How do I switch from OpenSUSE (KDE) to CachyOS with as little hassle as possible?
Do I just back up my .config folder?
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>>109817836
I always end up installing gnu coreutils on alpine since the busybox equivalents are usually worse
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>>109820641
>Can they even do that?
yes. some emulators do that for example.
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>>109818349
Appimages don't have any standards when it comes to updating them or where to place them.
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>>109822283
Busybox is mostly fine, it's just its cp, mv and find (findutils is separate to GNU coreutils but Busybox provides its own shittier version still) that are lacking
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>>109822297
Based
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>>109819220
Flatpaks only share runtimes if its the same version of the runtime. It's a bit of a mess.
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>>109820492
Plasma has some strange defaults like super nested menus in the kde applications or the top left hotcorner.
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>>109822312
>Flatpaks only share runtimes if its the same version of the runtime
That's basically guaranteed to be the case when two Flatpaks update at the same time. The issue with old runtimes only crops up if a Flatpak is badly maintained which can sadly happen sometimes where the packager is not very responsive. This is why ideally they want the developer to package Flatpaks themselves.
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>>109822255
Back up your whole home folder. But if you really don't want to do that then just back up ~/.config and ~/.local/share
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>>109822319
Note: Also, using older runtimes can be an advantage sometimes. OBS, for example, has broken multiple times with newer versions of Qt. Using an older runtime guarantees some stability, somewhat.
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>>109822319
Not every flatpak gets updated at the same time though. You will likely always have multiple runtime versions installed at the same time.
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>>109817108
I benchmarked Unigine Heaven on Fedora back in April, and I've just benchmarked it again on Debian 13. There is noticeably worse performance on Debian
>Average FPS
109.2 on Debian, 125.1 on Fedora
>Max FPS
223.3 on Debian, 259.5 on Fedora
>Min FPS
In Unigine the minimums are based completely on I/O bottlenecks since I have Unigine on a hard disk, hence I recorded a higher min FPS on Debian.

Performance is about 15% worse on Debian...those backports are really tempting me right now.
How do I set up Mesa backports without confusing APT's dependency resolution?
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>>109822330
Yes, that's the problem with applications having different release cycles. Deprecating the runtimes can help but ultimately it comes down to the packager. Sometimes there are valid reasons for using older versions of a runtime.
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>>109822334
>I benchmarked Unigine Heaven on Fedora
why would you do that in the first place?
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why kde has stutters when gpu in idle mode?
i don't want to use gnome

https://discuss.kde.org/t/kde-plasma-wayland-nvidia-low-fps-stutters/27064
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>>109822343
Because I was interested in reducing the power draw + undervolting. So I was trying to see how many FPS I would lose per watt.

I should note that the Fedora and Debian figures I gave were both with stock settings.
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>>109822319
Apps don't have the same release cycle as Flatpak runtimes do. Also developers don't necessarily care about updating the dependencies unless there is a specific reason to. Flathub forces devs to keep the runtimes updated, but they're lenient enough to allow apps to use the previous version of the runtime for as long as it gets security updates (2-3 years?). So you eventually end up having 2-3 versions of a runtime installed.

Although I don't really see the problem in using outdated or multiple runtimes. I mean, how else would you run abandonware or older versions of software? Not all software needs to be perpetually updated forever.

The only real problem I see is the way Flatpak handles installations into multiple locations. This is where you actually have runtime duplication.
For example
>1 Qt app installed system-wide
>1 Qt app installed into your user directory
>1 Qt app installed on external storage or a separate partition
This results in you having 3 copies of the same version of KDE runtime, which is retarded. The runtimes/dependencies should be there in the default system path and other install locations should just handle apps themselves.
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Guys I'd like to find a way to implement a feature/function in KDE, but I have zero programming knowledge.
I'm using the "Icons-and-Text Task Manager" widget to handle programs on the taskbar, I prefer it to using pinned/grouped programs.
However, in Windows 10 with 7+ Taskbar Tweaker I can get the best of both worlds, I set the taskbar to show window titles, then manually specify which windows can omit the title.
For example if you open Steam, or Calculator or some other program it works like the standard moden layout with just an icon, but if you open a text document or file manager window you see the name.

From what I can see the window management / window rules settings don't manage this, so I guess it will have to be implemented by modifying the existing KDE widget.
Do you know if anyone has done something similar? Can my retarded ass use AI to make it?
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>>109822390
>Apps don't have the same release cycle as Flatpak runtimes do.
That's the way it's supposed to work but in practice every app has its own cycle. If a new release is coming in a week or a months time then they may hold off on updating the runtime until that comes out because that's the safest and most practical thing to do (you risk breaking apps otherwise).
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>>109822402
Ask Clanker Claude to do it for you
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>>109822402
no clue, but good to see windows niggers actually trying to do something
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>>109822402
Screenshot your post and post it to the KDE bug tracker and ask for this feature.
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>>109822334
Why isn't apt pinning working for me? I have this preference file under /etc/apt/preferences.d/:
Package: src:mesa:any
Pin: release a=trixie-backports
Pin-Priority: 1001


So let's run apt update && apt-cache policy mesa-vulkan drivers:
mesa-vulkan-drivers:
Installed: 25.0.7-2+deb13u1
Candidate: 25.0.7-2+deb13u1
Version table:
26.1.2-1~bpo13+1 100
100 http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie-backports/main amd64 Packages
*** 25.0.7-2+deb13u1 500
500 http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

I've already set up my backports sources and have already installed certain backported packages like yt-dlp. Wat do I do?
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>>109822444
But then he would have to out himself as a retarded frog poster
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>>109822425
I'll give it a try

>>109822442
Hey I've contributed before, just with translations.

>>109822459
I can use an anime pfp
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>>109822455
nvm I just had to change a=trixie-backports to n=trixie-backports
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>>109822486
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK I TRY TO UPGRADE BUT THEN I GET THIS ERROR:
[spoiler]The following packages have unmet dependencies: mesa-libgallium: Breaks: mesa-va-drivers (< 25.2.8-3) Breaks: mesa-va-drivers (< 25.2.8-3) Breaks: mesa-vdpau-drivers (< 25.2.8-3) Breaks: mesa-vdpau-drivers (< 25.2.8-3) mesa-libgallium: Breaks: mesa-va-drivers (< 25.2.8-3) Breaks: mesa-va-drivers (< 25.2.8-3) Breaks: mesa-vdpau-drivers (< 25.2.8-3) Breaks: mesa-vdpau-drivers (< 25.2.8-3) mesa-va-drivers: Depends: mesa-libgallium (= 25.0.7-2+deb13u1) but 26.1.2-1~bpo13+1 is to be installed mesa-va-drivers: Depends: mesa-libgallium (= 25.0.7-2+deb13u1) but 26.1.2-1~bpo13+1 is to be installed [/spoiler]
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>>109822455
>>109822493
Ok so apparently mesa-vdpau-drivers and mesa-va-drivers are legacy packages that are being retired, hence their versions in the backports are behind the rest of the mesa stack. These two packages are being merged into mesa-libgallium.

I removed mesa-vdpau-drivers and mesa-va-drivers, and the upgrade seems to have gone through.
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>>109820882
I see, thanks.
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>>109822607
The mesa backport made zero difference in Unigine. Time to backport the kernel then.
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>>109820867
Xrdp is an RDP server for X11. The clue is kind of in the name why that won't work on Wayland.

You want a Wayland compositor that has its own RDP backend. Both GNOME and KDE can do that, and so can things like Weston.
If you're using something Wlroots based then I only know of WayVNC. I don't think anyone has made an RDP server for it.
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>>109822678
The backported kernel was the chef's kiss. Now I've got better performance than April Fedora!
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>>109822731
So...
sudo tee /etc/apt/preferences.d/backports << 'EOF'
Package: src:mesa:any src:linux-signed-amd64
Pin: release n=trixie-backports
Pin-Priority: 1001
EOF
sudo apt update && sudo apt purge mesa-va-drivers mesa-vdpau-drivers

Then I can just click update in Discover and sit back.
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>>109821803
>Appimages can be made in such a way where they're still fully portable
Yeah but most devs opt to fuck it up for stupid reasons. Which is why appimage sucks 99.9% of the time.
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>>109820867
AFAIK gnome is the only one that has something close to xrdp functionality for wayland. However you have to manually enable the systemd service for it.
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>>109822756
Good that you solved your issue but you don't need to blog everything.
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>>109815095
Installed flatpaks get saved to /var/lib/flatpak if installed system-wide which is usually the default. The other place they get saved is somewhere in ~/.local/share/flatpak if you installed them user-wide
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I have a timer for my simple server that looks like this. It shuts down itself at 22:20 as expected

Description=servershut

[Timer]
OnCalendar=*-*-* 22:20
Persistent=true

[Install]
WantedBy=timers.target

However when i boot it up in the morning physically with the power button it shuts itself down if i shut down the server manually before 22:20. After it has done that once it boots up properly again.
Is there any way to fix it? It's just a minecraft server for my friends and i.
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>>109822797
>but you don't need to blog everything.
Actually I do because that's called documentation
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>>109822816
It's because you're using Persistent=true. Don't do that if you don't want this behaviour:
>A timer which starts once a week (at 12:00am on Monday). When activated, it triggers the service immediately if it missed the last start time (option Persistent=true), for example due to the system being powered off:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Systemd/Timers#Realtime_timer
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>>109822820
Nobody's going to be looking in a random /fglt/ for documentation. If you want to contribute documentation you should be doing it on somewhere more appropriate like the debian wiki.
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>>109822849
Our future AI overlords will thank him. Remember, every time you blog your solutions on 4chan you're helping Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos.
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>>109822849
>Nobody's going to be looking in a random /fglt/ for documentation
/fglt/ users musing a switch to Debian may find it helpful to know how easy it is to get the best gaming performance out of Debian!
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>>109822459
You can use temporary email addresses and fake names to register to the bug tracker. That's how I'm posting shit there.

>>109822785
Truly portable appimages were impossible to make until 2024. See:
https://pkgforge-dev.github.io/Anylinux-AppImages/FAQ.html#how-come-this-only-became-possible-in-2024
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>>109822846
biggu thanksu desu
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>>109822867
Do you really think they would risk corrupting their LLMs by scraping this website?
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>>109822690
I was hoping I could anything short of replacing wayland with x11. Not that I mind x11, just not sure how big of a pain it would be and my programs at this point. I use KDE but, unless they fixed something, I could not get Windows to connect to my Linux machine using their RDP solution. I've had to resort to Rustdesk. It works, better than vnc options I've tried, but still eh compared to xrdp. Not sure I've heard of weston so I'll have to give it a look later.

I should have just went with xfce.

>>109822790
I think I have tried that on an Ubuntu VM, but not a fan of gnome.
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why isn't zswap and storage compression default on most distros/android? on modern cpu's it seems like a nobrainer free performance/storage decision.
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>>109821555
Well why not look at the dmesg log from the event? Something like this surely has evidence left behind. Might not be very helpful, but it's gonna be more than what you got now.
Also that CPU has built in graphics, if you have a second monitor connect it to the CPU graphics chip. If that continues to work when this happens, that'll be helpful to you for monitoring the log, for example.
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>>109823080
it is on good distros that care about their users
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>>109823080
Compression is too much of a bottleneck for storage
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what distros can be booted and contained within just a usb?
not just live booting for install but actually saving and holding files on the stick so you can take your os anywhere
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>>109823294
I could never figure this out.
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>>109823294
All of them. You can install any Linux distribution onto a USB drive.
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>>109823294
If you're lazy and want a live distro with "persistence" and don't want to DIY, Tails is a prime example of this, though more security / anonymity focused. I believe Kali has the same ability but is pentesting focused.

If you want to DIY it's easy enough to install Linux to a USB like you would a HDD with all the relevant partitions. You simply choose to boot from it during boot selection instead of the internal HDD. You can even install Linux on an nvme drive and buy a USB adapter for it, et cetera. There's really no need for any special tools.
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Is Omarchy any good, I have an old X230 that I might want to migrate from 10.
I need this shit to work mind you, I can't waste time setting up random shit like multiple monitors (I will be hooking into random screens and TVs) or Bluetooth drivers or whatnot.
I used Manjaro previously and had quite a few issues with shit I had to setup manually, hence the change to 10.
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>>109823080
Good question about zswap as it seems to work way better than zram, tried both.
Haven't done a proper benchmark but when compiling some heavy programs from sources zswap results to next to none swapping while with zram there's like gigabytes of it.
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>>109823366
Omarchy is shovelware and Manjaro was always garbage. The entire Manjaro project basically fell apart a year ago. Just use CachyOS like a normal person.
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>>109823443
>zram there's like gigabytes of it
both use your physical ram to store the compressed data tho
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>>109823465
Isn't Omarchy just Arch but with some slapped in config files?
>>109823294
"Anywhere" as in any UEFI-PC? I thought any distribution can do an install like that: by placing GRUB at \\EFI\boot\bootx64.efi.
>>109823473
Sure but zswap has logic on which pages to swap out and which ones to compress, it's smarter.
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>>109823493
>Isn't Omarchy just Arch but with some slapped in config files?
No. It's Arch with a fuck ton of pre-installed bloat and gaping security holes deliberately left in the system.
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>>109823080
>why not zswap
Because you have to allocate physical swap for no reason.
>on modern cpu's it seems like a nobrainer free performance/storage decision
You may not notice the difference, but it's actually a huge throughput hit in most cases. Unless you have a really shitty storage format like SATA or eMMC. A good PCIe 5 M.2 stick can read like 3x faster than totl CPUs can decode a single zstd stream. Power and memory bandwidth may also be issues. Compression is very situational.
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>>109823543
>oh no, le hecking physical swap
>>109823538
So, the packages are 100% Arch packages from Arch's repositories, right?
And extra info on security issues?
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>>109823599
>So, the packages are 100% Arch packages from Arch's repositories, right?
They use their own mirrors and from what I understand the idea is for Omarchy to build its own packages in the future and become a standalone distro.
>And extra info on security issues?
Well the funniest one is the one where they set up Docker permissions in such a way where any process that runs inside a docker container can elevate itself to run as root. The most likely reason why this was done is for the user to be able to run AI agents from within docker containers, but run them seamlessly as if they're running natively on the host OS.
The whole idea of the OS is for it to be an agentic OS where you connect your system to Claude, ChatGPT, Grok, Gemini, Deepseek, etc. and use one (or more) of them as agents that autonomously control your PC, do stuff for you in the background, or troubleshoot various PC issues you have.
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>>109820767
Slackware.
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>>109821055
Filen dot io
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>>109823080
>most distros
Does any distro enable it by default? With desktops I can see the issue being needing a swap PARTITION. Yes, a partition not a file since Btrfs can't do swap files without breaking things.

>android
No, idea, probably just google being slow. The use Zram+backing file on a timer, which is a shitty solution now that Zswap exists.
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>>109823599
>oh no, le hecking physical swap
If you don't actually plan to use swap it just makes recovery slower. This is why nobody uses zswap except Arch. Because they're trying to retroactively justify their boomer install tutorial.
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>>109824104
All filesystems have swap file regressions if you use mainline kernels long enough.
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>>109824150
>nobody uses zswap except Arch
Extra info? zswap is an universal feature, you simply flip it on case the kernel didn't default to that.
>Because they're trying to retroactively justify their boomer install tutorial
Again, extra info?
All manual neckbeard installations are the same: you make up some partition, format it to some filesystem, put a Linux system into that filesystem and then make it bootable. Although the last time I checked Arch's installation guide was kinda bad, at least compared to Gentoo.
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>>109823465
>Omarchy is shovelware
What do you mean exactly? Bloat or something else?
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>>109824104
Zswap is enabled by default on Arch if you install it manually with a swap partition. I assume it's deactivated if you fail to create a swap partition but I don't know.
Archinstall will create zram.
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>>109824202
>Extra info? zswap is an universal feature, you simply flip it on case the kernel didn't default to that.
By default. Every other major desktop uses zram and no swap or just no swap by default.
>All manual neckbeard installations are the same: you make up some partition, format it to some filesystem, put a Linux system into that filesystem and then make it bootable.
Pic is the current year install instructions for Arch. What purpose does that swap partition serve on a normal desktop other than speed bump? It's retarded.
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>>109824331
I doubt you'd be able to prove that having zswap enabled on your system has performance regressions vs having no swap at all or zram.
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>>109818081
I don't have nVidia, only whatever GPU Raspberry Pi 500 Plus has.
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>>109824379
>accidentally fill up swap
>have to read 16gb of stuff off ssd
There's your regression.
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>>109823543
power issues? does it use more electricity?
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>>109824779
>does doing more processing use more electricity
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Any nice alternative to GNOME that is also simple in design and minimalist but has nice integration with AppImage or Flatshits? and without the systemd stuff?
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Sup frens-- I am getting issued a new work laptop due to my current one starting to fail. I am tired of win11 and have freedom to manage my own system as long as it is secure and up to date. I am comfortable with debian and arch based distros, and use them all the time, however, the idea of using arch as a daily driver while a nice fantasy seems daunting at the least. for the sake of a test run, i tried using thunderbird and the teams-for-linux packages to manage my email and IM'ing but these fall horribly short, especially with audiocodec switching for headsets and screensharing content. Are there any reliable ways to use the microsoft services (even in browser which seems dodgy at best on arch) or am I just fucked and need to stick to windows. I work in tech as a network engineer and would otherwise greatly benefit using a lightweight distro that does what i need for me to do my job. Anyone on this board have success stories along these lines?
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>>109823013
When did you last try it and on what distro? It's documented as working with Windows RDP client from at least Windows 10 at least (probably works with older too but I doubt anyone's tested):
>The following clients are known to work with the server:
>…
>Windows Remote Desktop client, at least as shipped with a recent Windows 10.
https://invent.kde.org/plasma/krdp

It might be worth reporting a bug to KDE about this if you can't get it to work. The Windows Remote Desktop client is a pretty popular RDP client. It's supposed to work.
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>>109825203
is dual boot not an option?
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>>109825408
Of course it is an option, albeit a bad one namely because half of my day usually consists of MS teams meetings + sporadic random calls, so having to reboot and swap between OSes is far from ideal, especially as i want to due all of the engineering work on arch. Dual booting in my case will never be efficient.
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