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I spontaneously bought used E495 for ~$150. Specs:
>Kingston 32 GB RAM 2400
>256 GB + HyperX Furry 480GB
>Cooler from E595
>Fully AMD (3500U and Vega 8)
>Flawless condition [spoiler]because previous owner was drafted[/spoiler]
Was it a good deal? I'm still biting my elbows to find used T14s Gen 4 (or later) AMD with reasonable pricing - that shit costs like $1000 in my country, lol.
Nevertheless, I also want to install Mint XFCE to see if I'll switch to loonix.

>>109824353
>32GB RAM
that alone's already worth more than the laptop itself right now lol, good buy.

>>109823333
quints.

have a T420 sitting on my shelf. any of you here use any mega-old laptops daily? feel bad treating it as cold storage as of late.

>>109824472
quads, sry.

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>T14 G1 with 32gb I bought brand new in 2020 from lelnovo costs less than a USED T14 G1 with 16gb on sale now
>doesn't even have WWAN and fingerprint
I need this AI bubble to pop so we can get reasonable prices again
>b-but that will cause the entire market to crash

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>>109824570
How much did you pay for it at the time? Because I got a refurbed T14 G2 with 16 GB for €300 two months ago. Adding another new 16 GB stick would cost €120.
If you really paid €420 for a then-current G1 with 32 GB, I want in on whatever scheme you used.

>b-but that will cause the entire market to crash
Aww yiss.

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>>109824685
>How much did you pay for it at the time?
A little over 1,000 american freedom credits (including tax). I must add that it's an AYYMD system. I am noticing an AMD tax on 2nd hand systems. I can't find a used (in good condition) AMD T14 G1 with similar specs that's not beat to shit.

>>109824932
>I am noticing an AMD tax on 2nd hand systems.
Absolutely. Resellers know how far ahead AMD was during those years and adjust their prices accordingly. I think AMD models were also sold in lower quantities, because the T14 G2 AMD is nearly impossible to find in my country.
>I can't find a used (in good condition) AMD T14 G1 with similar specs that's not beat to shit.
I found one in great condition for €280, but it only had 8 GB RAM, a 256 GB SSD and a badly stickered keyboard. It was worth it for me because I had a spare 8 GB stick and 512 GB SSD lying around and Lenovo had a new keyboard on sale for €16, but that kind of illustrates the problem. Buying used laptops is only worth it anymore if you can settle for the minimum specs and upgrade them yourself.

>>109825045
Two years ago, I snagged an open box X13 AMD G3 with 32gigs ram and 2TB SSD for $933 plus tip. It was mint. It had no WWAN module, but I was able to install a WWAN card that takes e-sim and rig an internal antenna that I had to cut to fit. I wish somebody would make the call and cut this circular financing bullshit.

>>109823333
What would be a good laptop to buy? I just want min 16GB of ram, an SSD, decent battery life and not too pricy.
I don't even need it for gaming. I have a desktop but I'm afraid of buying a laptop in 2026 with less than 16 GB of ram.

Buying Dell Latitudes and Elitebooks might be cheaper nowadays because sellers have caught on to charging people more for thinkpads. Actually, I used to have a Toshiba Satellite but I threw it away after installing linux mint on it. I don't remember why

>>109824480
It's been a long time since /tpg/ had quads.

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>>109823333
My mom's 16 years old dell latitude e6410.

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>>109828190
on docking

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>>109828206
how it looks like in opened state

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>>109828214
palm rest and keyboard condition

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>>109828218
lower panel condiiton

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>>109828223
Full equipment:
laptop, it's original battery(death i use it for historical and esthetic purposes), e port plus ii docking station, original 90w slim charger for laptop and original 130w charger for doking station

>>109828190
>>109828199
>>109828206
>>109828214
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>>109828223
Based E6410, I really regret not getting that in 2015 instead of the E6400, at least I would've been on then current DDR3 for a little while and only one behind during DDR4, Having a Core 2 duo with 4GB 800MHz DDR2 was painful even since Sandy bridge due to proliferation of ultrabooks, but it hurt even worse when the sexy ass T470 dropped with 15w and I had a freaking chud laptop with Windows 7 on it because I didn't Linux like an idiot

Good times though

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>>109828236
Screenshot from this laptop

>>109828237
That's right. Latitude E6410 is the peak of laptop engineering. I haven't seen a better laptop in terms of modularity, reliability, and quality.

Also e6410 was the last laptop that dell make really robust and simple to service

>>109828245
>Also e6410 was the last laptop that dell make really robust and simple to service
The design of it was the last time they looked like serious business laptops, the E6420 that came after looked like a goddamn consumer laptop from Best Buy, Lelnovo has done some stupid ass shit but they still know how to make their business laptops look the part in spite of how thin and ultrabooky they are, they look fantastic.

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>>109828245
And two original chargers 130w for docking station and 90w for laptop. This is what happening with laptop when it was used only by one neat woman

>>109828258
That's right, agree with you. The design of e6400/6410 series is also the most based i know. The next gen got rounded corners looks not serious there is no elegance anymore

>>109828277
Yeah the blockyness makes it for me, my T470 is total ultrabook and everything that people wished old chunky ass T series could've been due to limited technology, but it's got that boxy look, they made the case black like the old days instead of that grey shit the T440-T460 was, it was the classic thinkpad look, but thin and good.

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>>109828322
Doesn't look so compare e6410. Also do you know about fujistu e756 like book? I use it now like my main laptop it also good and has level of latitude, thinkpad, elitebook. And it also made in japan

>>109828342
That looks freaking nice Anon, we're both 14nm users lel but yours has a little more cache with the i7

>>109828358
That's right thank you. Unforunately in modern laptops processors are soldered :( no modulatiry anymore

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>>109828370
The soldered kinda sucks but thankfully the chips they come with are pretty good, my 7300U is barely slower than the optional i7 7500U, it's like if you've got an i5 with that turbo, you've got the good CPU, it's not the jump you got when you had a socketed i3 with no turbo, and then you got an i5 ivy bridge and holy shit it's running 3.4GHz under load where the i5 would only do 2.5GHz.

>>109818697
Ree calm down with the bidding you motherfuckers it's a 7300U ahhhhh

>>109828388
>the i5 would only do 2.5GHz.
the i3*

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>>109828236
I've taken some pictures of my E6400 compared to the T470 and a broken MacBook (of course it is) so you can see how awesome and not compromised the ThinkPad ultrabooks are

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>>109828528

Should I get a T14 Gen 1 with 4650, 16gb of memory and 500gb storage for USD 400?

>>109828872
>performance matches my i7 8700 and it's 20% the power consumption
That's a beast, Anon, the AMD Thinkpads are so worth it.

>>109828872
>Should I get a T14 Gen 1 with 4650, 16gb of memory and 500gb storage for USD 400?
No
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=t14&_sacat=0&_from=R40&_oaa=1&_dcat=177

>>109828939
Sure, it's not the best international pricing but it's reasonable I think. I'd prefer to avoid international shipping, on top of which I would have to pay tax, making the hassle-free 400 USD deal much more attractive for me.

>>109828970
Ah, you should have lead with your location.

>>109828245
Anon why did you post the laptop again? You posted it last thread.
Is it yours now or still your moms?

>>109829125
Right, sorry. South american poorfag here. I haven't bought a laptop in 16 years. That one (a dual core hp) is falling apart but it got this far and still works. I expect I'll get 20 years out of this one. So you see how it's reasonable for me.

You guys know the typical runtime with the 3 cell battery on a U class chipped thinkpad? I'm debating to get the 3 cell or 6 cell, I wish it didn't make the laptop sit at an angle but if it's that much more battery life, it's worth it as a replacement.

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>turned old T520 into Debian home server shoved under a piece of furniture
>jellyfin + deluge literally just werks
Thinking of maybe harvesting extra DDR3 from some other laptops I should still have lying around just to give this one a bit more breathing room.
Any other anons turned old thinkpads into home servers? Any tips?

>>109829467
I've done a shared folder on my T470 then folded it up and placed it somewhere like some sort of solid state blade server temporarily, it's such a low power beast that was built for work, but go ahead and put 16GB of RAM in that Sandy T520 Anon, it deserves it, that's still an awesome laptop for Linux shit.

>>109829397
My T480 draws between 5.5 W (reading a PDF, medium brightness) and 11 W (watching FHD video, full brightness). So about 2 to 4 hours with a single 3-cell battery and the other battery slot empty. With a single 65 Wh 6-cell (it's hard to find true 72 Wh ones), about 6 to 10.5 hours.

>>109829661
Holy fuck that's really impressive, my 7300U said it was using like 12.48W on HWmonitor under Prime95 small fft, I should be fine because Kaby dual core is such a power sipper even though it's weaker than the coffee lake.

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I work at a store but the ThinkPads have followed me

>>109829757
I got like 4-6h from 6-cell battery on my T460p running Debian.

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>>109830402
Thats extremely impressive on a laptop that runs 45w HQ chips

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>>109829234
I posted it because i used it and tested recently. So i just take some photos to show you how it looks in working. >>109828190 >>109828199
>>109828206

Anyway i will not post it here anymore(at least at the near feature.

>Is it yours now or still your moms?
Now it mine. But i will not use it i will put it in closed to save it. It has too good condition.

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>>109830460
>75C
what are you doing anon?

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>>109828528
You E6400 has enough good condition. Do you have more photos? Sorry i couldn't reply you at night because went to sleep

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>>109830503
I was running cinebench on Windows 7, this T470 is an absolute beast at thermals for a thin laptop, my i7 8700 desktop runs at 90c because they were so desperate to compete with ryzen that thermals went out the window. The T470 was made before all that so it runs cool even when you're beating the shit out of it.

>>109830393
>cheddar belief

>>109828388
honestly I wouldn't bid any more on this if I were you. for a 7th gen i5 (dual core) and no backlit keyboard that's already too expensive

>>109830806
Im not bidding, I use T470 that goes for way less money $85 or so, but its insane the effect social media has on the T480, people will pay triple the price even though its an old ass 14nm laptop

>>109823333
> brand new E14 gen 2
>battery barely lasts two hours on perf mode
it's a nice laptop, I shouldn't have cheaper out, how long you guys think it'll last?

>>109831012
i worry about that baked-in keyboard sometimes, but eh, not like it's actually mine. but 2 years on, and that battery life truly is atrocious lol.

Found a ThinkPad X1 Carbon G9 with 512GB and 16GB RAM for $600. Is that a good deal?

>>109831294
If thin and light is worth that much to you? I'd personally take a T14 gen 2 instead, which goes for half this price at most.

Hey guys,

Recently started studying and I heard the Lenovo Thinkpad T14 is really good.
I have a budget of 800-1200€ and I'm not sure which generation I should get and where.

What do you guys recommend?

>>109831308
Oh. I found a T14 G2 with similar specs for $500. That sounds good? I know next to nothing about Thinkpads but heard they were good and just want a decent computer for college in case I need to open VS Code outside of my dorm/watch hentai without slowdowns or do schoolwork/youtube in bed.

What's good for krita, videos, and images? Could you get away with some older or is it wise to get something more modern? Bonus if I can get away with music and YouTube.

Are tge T14 and T14S the same thing?

>>109831691
ones plural the other is not

>>109831704
Kek

>>109831345
That's still a lot. Is there nothing close to $300?

>>109831315
In that range you can probably get a G5 with 32 GB, maybe a G6. G5 and G6 are the same chassis with mildly different guts. Avoid "refurbished" offers and just go for second-hand, best if you can physically go there and test it before buying.

>>109831887
Not really. Ireland doesn't have many options, sadly.

>>109831345
In my country Norway T14 gen 2 and 3 usually go for around $300-$400. The gen 2s a bit more refurbished than the gen 3, but both feel worth it.

>>109831887
Any significant differences between G5 and G6?

I imagine the higher number the better but is it worth the jump in price?

>>109823333
main differences between T, L, E series thinkpads??

>>109831887
I found one for $350 but it only has 256GB of storage. Those the T14 have space for an HDD? I have a HDD/SSD Hybrid I could install into it.

>>109831294
there is one on ebay for 450$ with 32gb of ram

>>109824353
Xubuntu is better than Mint

>>109824353
>install Mint XFCE to see if I'll switch to loonix
Try cinnamon first if you're coming from Windows, it's prettier than XFCE, is windows like, and a fucking lightweight compared to Windows.

>>109830393
>milk crate for sitting
>monster and goldfish crackers as fuel
>T14 on a folding table with a little mouse
Peak battlestation

Why are T14g1/g2 preferred, aren't they a hassle to open and isn't the keyboard a bit too hassle to replace?

>>109836144
It's the last AMD gen without the notchshit AND upgradable RAM. Gen 3 AMDs is soldered, and Gen 4 onwards is notchshit

>>109836144
It's all about what you're getting for the money, that's why the "best thinkad" always slowly moves forward, it's because new stuff comes out, old stuff drops in value immensely and becomes a great value on the used market, That was the case of the T480 for a while before social media told even non computer people to buy this thing and the value went crazy despite the computer getting older and older, fuckin thing's 8 years old now and people want almost as much money as a newer computer from the store that has working battery and is newer technology, totally flipping the value prospect of why we like these things on its head.

>>109836159
>without notchshit
I didn't notice that, would be worth for some indeed.
>>109836169
Yeah, I understand that it will move forward naturally but I thought ease of maintenance is also taken into consideration. Like I get modular RAM is there but wouldn't the G5 trounce it soon enough since it has that too yet without the hassle of accidentally breaking your chassis' pins when opening?

>>109836180
Yeah the modular RAM is based but stuff like the T470/T480 can officially only go up to 32GB of RAM, and the later ones with with their whack ass soldered DIMM can go up to 40 or 48GB of RAM and they've got faster everything overall, that's why I tell people to get the newest fucking computer you can afford, and don't overpay for something that's old.

>>109836159
T14 didn't get the webcam notch until Gen 5.
The notch isn't even bad, it makes opening the lid easier.
Your bitch ass should really be worried instead about the rounded corners on the LCD bezels that are now with the new Gen 7 T14.
Square IPS LCD has rounded corner bezels blocking off the active corners of the LCD.
This happened because OLED retards complained the bezels didn't match the OLED panels native rounded corners, now IPS panel chads got fucked with rounded corners.

And I don't get why you niggers bitch about soldered ram so much. The battery life and iGPU gains from going soldered are very noticeable. Get the max amount of ram from the start and you'll be fine. The weak ass CPUs will be obsolete way sooner than when you'll run out of ram.

>>109836300
Not only that, the soldered CPU alone has made thinkpads so much slimmer without that damn socket sticking up off the board, and then when they deleted those stupid DVD drives they could have two DIMMs not stacked ontop each other like the old days and making the laptop thicker for no reason, so not everything that Lenovo does apart from going away from 7-row keyboard was without its benefits.

>>109836300
>T14 didn't get the webcam notch until Gen 5.
Oh shit you're right.
>The notch isn't even bad, it makes opening the lid easier.
Skill issue
>Your bitch ass should really be worried instead about the rounded corners on the LCD bezels that are now with the new Gen 7 T14.
If it's notchshit it's invisible to me so I don't care
>And I don't get why you niggers bitch about soldered ram so much.
I would understand if it's an X series, or even a T14s. An T14 I can't upgrade the RAM is plain bullshit.

>>109836329
>T14 I can't upgrade the RAM is plain bullshit
It was only 2 generations that had soldered, Gen 5 onwards is socketed (except for Lunar Lake)

>>109836359
but still notchshit

I picked up a used t480 today
>i5-8250U
>16GB ram
>256GB SSD
>1920x1080 screen
>backlit keyboard
>internal and external batteries in reasonably good used condition (around 4 and a half to 5 and a half hours)
>came with Linux Mint 22.3 Cinnamon
Converted to US dollars, paid $143
It's got a bit of wear and tear - shiny palm rests, keyboard marks on the screen, screen bezel lines on the main casing, marks on the lid. Not as pristine as I would have liked (as I take care of my things and rarely close the lid), but for the price I paid, I knew I couldn't get any better, moreover with how the used prices for t480's actually rose a bit since last year.

>>109836390
shut up nigger

>>109836557
Forgot, also came with Lenovo 65W USB-C Charger.

>>109836557
>>109836566
Good ass deal Anon, see that's what i'm talking about when it comes to getting a nice 1080p backlit T480 for non retarded prices.

>>109836560
>t.notchshit enjoyer

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>>109836300
The soldered ram trope is SAID to be about ram failure functionally bricking the laptop. It's SAID to be a user-serviceability issue. But what they never say is the actual failure rate of soldered ram, much less its comparison to ram socket failure or other soldered motherboard components. There have been at least 4 or so instances of ram socket failure that I'VE seen /tpg/ posters confirm in the last year, and zero "soldered ram bricked laptop" claims. Yes, this is anecdotal, but it's what I have personally observed. I'll wait for the (You)s giving their anecdotal rebuttals.

That aside, the ACTUAL problem with soldered ram is the ewaste issue. If the model has fully soldered ram, there's no upgrade path. No "buy cheap business laptop with 8gb and upgrade it yourself, like we all used to do 10-15 years ago. /tpg/ sees dozens of the "IT Department Special" models on eBay with 8gb of soldered ram for $100 and the 16gb/32gb+ models for $200-300 and get pissed because they can't buy the $100 one. Lenovo fucked THEM PERSONALLY and soldered ram is to blame for them having to dig into their pocketbook so now "all soldered ram bad".

And I get it. The enshittification inherent in designing paper-thin laptops has tradeoffs none of us like. I like seeing business hardware get a second life as "prosumer" hardware with yesteryear's specs, as much or more than the next guy. All of the tech at my house is old or at least shit I bought used and cobbled together.

Blame the internationalen finanzjuden that foist this environmentally wasteful shit upon humanity. Soldered ram, in and of itself, isn't bad or more failure-prone than anything else soldered to the motherboard (CPU, chipset, ram socket, nvme slot, gpu, various I/O or power ports, etc) that - if it failed - you wouldn't throw it away anyhow and not screech Yiddishly about that specific component failing.

>>109836577
I was very lucky to find it, and the timing was perfect. A local not for profit computer recycling place that sells used computers and parts donated to them just checked through this machine and it was up for sale eight days ago. They do not list their stock online, you are encouraged to drop by or e-mail first to see what they have. Originally came with 8GB ram but I asked if they could upgrade it since their prices were more than reasonable in these crazy priced ram times. They even offered me a free laptop bag but I said keep it for the next person as I already had one. It feels nice knowing my money spent goes back into their not for profit business to help others get affordable computers. I bought what was their newest (8th gen) and most expensive laptop. The average cost for a few other Thinkpads and Dells they had that were just a bit older were $108 USD. The lowest priced laptop they had was $57 USD.
I made my previous post, the first post ever, with that t480 I just bought on Firefox - and then I get smacked with a "your ip range has been temp banned for abuse". This rolling IP blocks this year are a royal pain in the ass and they can last weeks/months. Now I am back on old desktop to make this post (presumably it has all the 4chan cookies I need).
One little neat thing with this laptop with Linux is that the backlit keyboard turns off after a few mins of not using it and turns back on when you use it. Under Windows it always just stays on. I wonder why? I haven't used Linux in over ten years and I'll be keeping it for a now with this fresh install it has.


now I am on my old desktop again

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>>109836775
Yeah you got real lucky, I just had a T470 complete with name drive for $80 arrive and that's getting lucky now because people are straight up parting these things out with ram and SSDs and selling what's left, so you're depending on a seller not knowing any better and selling the complete laptop for $100 to $150.

>>109836803
>name drive
NVMe drive

>>109836775
*these rolling IP blocks
Disregard that last bit of text on the bottom.
So my post worked fine on my old Windows desktop. But under the same house wi-fi, I make one post with my new device and now it "temp" blocks me from posting, forcing me to verify e-mail to continue.
This site has gone to the dogs. I've had so many "temp" range ban issues on like four different IPs since the start of this year.

>>109836803
$80 sounds pretty good if its a complete t470. How much ram? Battery life?
>and that's getting lucky now because people are straight up parting these things out with ram and SSDs and selling what's left
It really is terrible what's happening out there these days.
I feel sorry for the poor machines getting ripped apart for no reason and people who are getting ripped off. It doesn't make it worth it to buy used when you have to overpay for the basic laptop "shell", then by overpriced ram and SSD.
If I was an asshole, I could likely flip what I just got, but I will be keeping this thing until it gives up the ghost.
Perhaps purchasing a laptop from a not for profit place would be a good option for people, if they have such places located near them locally.

>>109836863
It's got the factory single 8GB DIMM and a 256GB NVMe drive with the 1080p screen and backlit keyboard, typical nicely configured T470, the battery doesn't hold a charge and I didn't get a charger but this is still what a "Good deal" on a T470 looks like at the moment, most of them are NO RAM NO SSD, keyboard missing because they sold it, etc, and then the rest of the laptop is hopefully recycled correctly, but it's still tragic to lose any usable T470 because it's a beautiful little laptop..

Why does every laptop coming out now emphasize being huge and having a massive screen? In my experience smaller laptops are better

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>>109837624
Bought this X270 for $40. Fully working, with 8GB of RAM. It didn't come with an SSD, but I already had one lying around, so I put it in. It has the original Lenovo battery, with around 80% health.
Overall, it's in nice condition. The only caveat is the cracked palmrest, but it doesn't bother me too much at this price.
I love how it has an easily removable battery and USB-C charging.

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Bought this baby recently. Windows was fucking my ass due to the low RAM, so I installed CachyOS since I’d heard it was somewhat normie-friendly.

Pretty good experience so far. I also installed an extra 8 GB of RAM but I'm not going back to windows in this machine since it's a little old.

>>109836775
last year I found an i7 T480 with 16GB/512GB/FHD for 165€. listing didn't say anything about that but it also came with the Nvidia dGPU. I also found an A485 (R5/16GB/256GB) for the same price. I bought both and still use them both daily (both upgraded with more RAM/SSD, better screen panels and glass trackpads). I'm typing this on the A485

>>109837375
Do they really? Stinkpad T series shrinks by a few mm every couple of years. See width of 14" models:
>T440: 339 mm
>T470: 336 mm
>T490: 329 mm
>T14G3: 318 mm
>T14G5: 316 mm
>T14G7: 314 mm

>>109824685
Irish bro tell me where you got your T14 G2, I'm on the lookout for one but all the refurb sites are shite that I can see.

>P15 G1
>10875H/32GB/512nvme
>T2000
>4K oled
>$750

How bad/good of a deal would that be?

I suppose 4K does't matter much at this screen size, but I'm a sucker for OLED's contrast, I have an old samsung amoled tablet and I absolutely love the screen even with the little burn-in it already has, it's just a bit too small to view things on it comfortably.

>>109838192
For the exact same price including taxes/shipping, I got this back in may
>P15 G2
>11800H
>64GB DDR4 3200
>1TB NVME
>RTX A4000
>Shitty 1080p screen that I replaced
So specs wise, bad deal. But if oled is your priority, you probably won't find a p15 oled for much cheaper than that

>>109838458
Mine's shipping&taxes included as well of course but damn, yours looks like a better deal specs-wise. But yeah that OLED screen is really what's tempting me to get another laptop in the first place.

>Shitty 1080p screen that I replaced
What kind of panel was that? Or was it shitty because it was broken? What did you replace it with?

Lenovo raised prices again across the board today just as I was checking out.
I am raped.

>>109838788
It was the lowest end stock 1080p screen with poor viewing angles and color. I replaced it with a 1440p 240hz IPS panel for $100

Hey /tpg/ got my first thinkpad (T14 gen2) and the text can be blurry within some programs. I followed the instructions here but nothing worked https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/ht513729. Anybody got an idea of what could fix it?

>>109840155
adjust cleartype text

>>109840585
Does not fix it. It's part of the instructions from the link I sent. I already tried everything there.

>>109840155
You can try changing the scaling behaviour in those programs' compatibility settings to something other than "system"

>>109823333
Hi folks. My Lenovo Yoga finally crapped out after like a decade; looking to pick up a twinkpad for travel/work since I have some money to spend now. Budget's whatever but I'd prefer to be under two grand. Would like something with newer specs, or something that I can upgrade myself to function with newer shit; would prefer something w/o Intel's spyware. Putting Arch on it. Suggestions would be welcome; thanks.

>>109840836
T14 or X13 AMD

>>109840836
>newer specs
>w/o Intel's spyware (or AMD's)
can't have both, the last model that can run mostly blob-free is W541 from 11 years ago
>under two grand
get the latest T14 (Intel for good battery life, AMD for less outrageously expensive ram upgrades)

>>109836646
low key hoping upgrading soldered ram be more mainstream
but the bar is significantly higher so it filters out casuals
validating the chips is going to be a huge pain. good luck getting a warranty claim for RAM you already soldered

>>109836863
>But under the same house wi-fi
its probably a raid countermeasure

>>109840911
top of search so probably ass + refurb (I can just buy it new if it's truly an issue) but https://www.ebay.com/itm/286119892331 seems decent and has relatively not-shit reviews (the most I'm worried about is the screen looking like shit, but I can probably deal with it/fix it). Are the newer models easier or harder to repair? Old laptop was a massive pain in the ass to do anything to.

>>109839433
eh? by how much? was on the prowl for the new T series yesterday

>>109840754
It worked, tyvm!

>>109841068
I have this exact model. It's nice. The CPU can probably last you >5 years and RAM can be expanded to 40 GB. Comfy keyboard. Screen is IPS and reasonably bright but color accuracy is a lottery. I have the worse 45% NTSC version but it doesn't hurt my eyes or anything.

Weak points are battery life (expect 6h of reading, 4h of actual work, <3h of video call in an Electron piece of shit) and trackpoint lag on Linux. Latter can be fixed with these patches: https://github.com/Paul-Eau/smoother-trackpoint-fix

I'd say repair is generally easier than with older pre-ultrabook laptops. You almost always have to take the bottom cover off, and it's tough to unclip it especially the first few times, but its screws are captive, and once it's open you have access to everything. Keyboard can be replaced without opening the cover, but its screws need a smaller Phillips head than the rest. Dark side of repairability: soldered USB-C charging ports (but at least there's two of them).

>thinkpadledcontrol no longer works with wangblows 11
>inb4 windows
It's over

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>>109841968

>>109840952
There are chinks doing this with vram in certain GPUs now. And I've seen Rossmann doing it with macshit laptops too. I agree, it'd be nice if it got more mainstream but too often the cost of doing it is more than the device is worth.

I dont have the soldering skills to do it...not yet anyway.

>>109842856
>And I've seen Rossmann doing it with macshit laptops too
Yeah him and dosdude1 are upgrading stuff like the A1466 Macbook Air to 16GB (usable af machine), and it's really impressive, and shoutout dosdude1, I remember that dude used to just make videos about old ass computers, now he's hustling and selling services to keep Macs going such as hardware GPU disable on the 2011 MBP that always fails, good stuff.

>>109840754
Not him but I'll try if this works later.

>>109824353
>amd
lol no

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I bought a X61t, but it has a bios password.
I cannot boot into the HD, select the boot device with F12, nor enter the BIOS setup with F1. All asks for a password.
Some resources i websearched say that you have to short two pins of a circuit in the motherboard.
Should i try to fix it or just mail it back to seller and ask for refund?

>>109844425
Did she seller show it in pictures or mention om description that it is bios locked? otherwise you have the right to return it.

>>109844228
hi here's your reply

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thinkchads rejoice!
it's now possible to enable the caps lock led on xx30 series thinkpad without hardware mods.
https://github.com/mjd7989/thinkpad-ec

Any thoughts on the dell precision 5680?
Have an opportunity to get one pretty cheap.

>>109846718
I like it, a good ass deal is a good ass deal no matter what it is

>>109846744
Yeah man, it's very tempting
It's a guy I work with and he wants a quick sale, rather than listing on eBay etc

>4k.OLED
>i9 13900H
>RTX 2000 Ada 8gb
>32gb Ram

Basically a gaming laptop.
He wants £800 for it which is about £300-400 less than that spec is selling used on eBay.

The soldered RAM, soldered WIFI card and stuff I've heard about Dell build quality are kind of putting me off though.
Also the screen is only 350 nit which doesn't sound like enough for a glossy oled.
Anyway I'll get to see it in person on monday and make make a decision.

>>109846800
Even though it's soldered, 32GB is a shit ton Anon, you can spend like $900 on an Acer gaming laptop in my country and get only 16GB of RAM and a 1080P screen, 4K OLED and an i9 is a badass computer

>>109846800
You won't find better at that price. Buy it before he changes his mind.

>>109846854
Not only that, but by the time he would ever need more than 32GB of RAM to run something, he would likely need a new laptop in general, it's not like the old days of Macbook airs where it's soldered at 8GB and really should've had 16 because the CPU was quite powerful for an ultrabook it and ends up being cucked, it's 32GB of DDR5, that's a goddamn beast.

>>109846825
>>109846854
>>109846940
Yeah fair points, I think I'll buy it

Which one of you fags is in the coffee shop in Chiswick opposite Stamford House

>>109844436
There was a picture with a tag: “blocked by password”, when i asked him, he told it was just an user password.

If it's a power on password (which seems the case) i can reset it by removng the CMOS battery, can't I?

Anyone daily a T14 G2 here? How's the battery life? Would you recommend it?

>>109844425
>>109848430
Try puling the CMOS first, if that doesn't work short it out. It's an old trick but it does work.

>>109845879
Huh, neat. Would've been way more useful a decade ago when xx30s were all the rage as the go-to secondhand option but it's still nice to see.

>>109846800
>I've heard about Dell build quality
I remember when my Alienware (Dell) laptop caught fire 3 days after the warranty ended when I was only web browsing 4chan.

>>109851349
Unfortunate, but Dellienware isn't even from the same planet as a based Dell Precision or a Latitude when it comes to quality.

Framework makes better keyboards for their Framework 13 than what you get with modern ThinkPads.
I'm talking in terms of audible noise and key press consistency.
The Framework 13's 2nd Gen keyboard uses plastic stabilizers instead of metal ones so the key presses (space bar too) are relatively mute.
Meanwhile, ThinkPads keyboards are loud and obnoxious.
Every key sounds different, there's just no consitency.
Huge lack of quality, Lenovo just doesn't fucking care.

>>109851636
go somewhere else with your shilling retard
you're not going to fool anyone in this thread

>>109851636
>The Framework 13's 2nd Gen keyboard uses plastic stabilizers instead of metal ones so the key presses (space bar too) are relatively mute.
But that's gay. Nobody here wants silent plastic fagboards.

While our pantheon of gods have forsaken us (Arimasa Naitoh, Ted Selker, Joe Rutledge, Richard Sapper, Richard Hunter Harris, Edwin T. Coleman, III), we worship the buckling spring here.

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>>109852499

>>109852647
Me on the right

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>>109828342
>>109823333
What does /tpg/ think about Fujitsu in general?
I really like the aesthetics but that's about all I can tell. I'm eyeing somethin like a Celsius H7510 but dunno how reliable that is, how's the screen quality. Seems quite upgradeable though.

>>109856139
>Seems quite upgradeable though.
Pretty sure the GPU is soldered so dunno about that.

>>109851363

Confirmed, I own both and my Precision 7560 is built like a brick shit house compared to my M17 r5.

M17 r5 did survive a 10 foot drop though with no issues so that was fairly impressive, is it the new one's that suck?

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>>109836557
nice find, i just upgraded my T480's wifi card to the Intel AX210NGW, my final upgrade, was considering an OEM backlit german keyboard but apparently the backlit ones have a different feel and i like the stock typing experience, recommend upgrading to 1TB NVME and the wifi card, make sure to update the firmware to fix the USB-C thunderbolt charging issue, otherwise you will burn out your charging port

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>>109850096

>>109844425 here,
seller does not know shit.
I removed the CMOS, which just made date/time reset, but the password lock screen was not removed. It turned out it was not only the power on password that was active, but also the supervisor password. I could only remove it by shorting two pins on the EEPROM chip during boot.

For anyone reading this post on (desu)archive:

I identified the EEPROM chip on the X61 tablet with the help of this archived webpage: https://web.archive.org/web/20210507130925/http://ja.axxs.net/x61_s_t.htm
It's a PS08 Eeprom chip behind the modem card, at the left of the LAN card. I need only to remove the keyboard, palmrest and the modem card to access it on the X61T. On other models it may be at the back of the motherboard (and you're screwed).
That page also shows where the chip is in other thinkpad models.

Then, I used this indian guy video tutorial on youtube on which pins to short, when to short (and unshort) during boot, and what to do on the BIOS setup: https://youtube.com/watch?v=FW-RLkzjAS8
The pins are the SCL and SDA ones, at the opposite end of the circle thing (see archived webpage).

I was trying to use a programmer clip to short the pins, but the clip was too big; then i tried a copper wire, but it was too clumsy to hold; then i rembered i have a multimeter, and disconnected its test probe and used its tip to short the pins.

It's all right now :)

>>109823333
What's the pipeline for coreboot development, if I want to program my own port? I want to port it to a KabyLake core i5-7000U yoga 370. Has anyone else documented his own port before?

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>>109857909
Previous owner was a BMW employee (or, more likely, it was BMW itself). There's some car diagnosis software installed.

The seller sold it with two batteries: the original one, and a kingsenner one (which i suppose the first owner bought, reseller does not seem to understand anything about thinkpads).
However, the thinkpad cannot recognize any battery, and only works on AC.
That sucks.
Any idea on how to troubleshoot this?

>>109856139
What's this laptop, japan brand?
Looks like google fuchsia.

>>109823333
I purchased one of pic related off ebay for about $30 last year. it's great, just like my thinkpad, but goes on my desk. I started a new job and they asked me to send any computer stuff I need to the IT guy and he'll buy it for me. I tried to find the same and it was hard to find. I found one listed for $700 and decided not to bother. I think about it every time I use my mouse though. Is there really no affordable thinkpad style keyboard for desktop use?

>>109857971
>Looks like google fuchsia.
(the logo, i mean)

>>109857971
It literally says in the post

>>109856139
Autistic but in a good way. They pack their laptops with plenty of ports and disc drives because the business world of Japan still uses VGA and CDs and fax machines and so on. On the flipside they're not really sold outside of Japan so it's pretty impractical to buy them unless you're really enthusiastic about their features.

>>109857909
Glad that it worked, anon! I'd always read about others shorting it out but I always avoided anything that mentioned being locked because it sounded like a pain. Real shame about the battery though.

>>109857995
Disregard I suck cocks. My dumbass was thinking about Panasonic Let's Notes for some insane reason, not Fujitsus.

>>109858006
>Panasonic Let's Notes for some insane reason, not Fujitsus.
Huh those look interesting too, but indeed unobtanium where I live. Laptop, Japan but hardmode.

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>>109857972
forgot pic

>>109857923
There's already a X380 Yoga port in the tree. You can make a copy of that and replace memory_init_params.c with the one from the (still unmerged) X270 port.

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>>109857972
There's a lot of SK-8845 on aliexpress, they are still in production as server KVM accessories iirc.
But if you are willing to pay $200 for a modern mechanical keyboard, try Tex Shinobi. Though trackpoint is not as good as old IBM.

T480 bros, how many more years before youtube and modern web surfing becomes laggy?

>>109858580
I daily drive an i7 8700 1050Ti with 543mbps ethernet and shit is laggy, I don't even think more specs on a laptop can really help us, the web is literally just react garbage that takes forever to load even on a brand new computer with good connection.


Just keep using your T480, Anon.

I wanted to get a laptop for basic home use. I'd basically just be using it for Internet bullshit and reading VNs away from my main computer. I like smaller laptops so I wanted something with a 13 or 14 inch screen. The only big thing I would need is a decent amount of storage space because I would need to dual boot like I do on my desktop. I have a T420s lying around that I haven't used in a bit, it still works fine but the battery is shit and it only has a 128gb SSD in it iirc (I used it for high school). Would it be worth it for me to pick up a newer model, or would it be better for me to just find a new battery and SSD for the T420s? It's not like I'm doing anything super demanding with it, the most intense game I would probably play on it would be Hitman Blood Money or something

>>109858675
I personally wouldn't bother trying to use ancient technology on battery battery power, just slam a bigger SSD in there, or a massive 2.5 inch hard drive if you like em big and send it, it's an ancient computer, doesn't matter if it lives on a wall.

>>109858714
True but it also can't run Hitman Blood Money very well so it's a real tough one here

new to thinkpad, is vantage spyware bloat like other oem driver utilities or good?

>>109859130
just run a linux distro, problem solved

>>109859130
yes, embrace the penguin buddy

>opened X13 gen 3 for maintenance
>forgot to unscrew one screw completely (edge)
>popped the bottom with a spudger with the screw still engaged
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

>>109859152
>>109859158
I wish but I'm too normie to spend time troubleshooting my non-steam gacha shit (dmm, fanza, and other eroge)

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>>109859173
I played gakumas on penguin, you should be fine

>>109859130
Vantage crap is garbage, I did a clean install of 10 on a T470 and it idles over 2GB of RAM, the people who bought this $1200-$1500 computer and put up with this were insane.

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>>109859199
Producer fren! But be honest did you have to put up with some techy shenanigans to get it up and running? My main concern would be gakumas, priconne and hbr
>>109859248
ouch

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I would transition to Linux Mint full time but Linux doesn't have a Search Everything alternative
>inb4 fsearch
I need the instantaneous indexing without input from me, so my team only tells me the file name for any document needing my review, instead of either (1) them messaging me the whole directory (we have a lot of subfolders); or (2) me going through said subfolders. Search Everything has been ingrained in my workflow so deeply it's insane.
>everyone thinks I'm a wizard the way I pull up files
>I tell them just name your files properly and use SearchEverything
>wow anon youre'are a wizard
>mfw

>>109858580
>youtube
On my 7500U/32gb ram using a standalone client (Freetube) got me better performance than in a browser, although I do get hit with the dumb sign in anti-bot prompts more often. Not too big a deal since I'll just reconnect to my VPN server, but it's an annoyance I put up with. I can't really speak for Intel 8th gen since I went from 7th gen to an AMD AI 9 370, but so long as you're modest with your video playback demands I suspect T480's could coast along for another 5 years before things really start to hurt.

>>109859353
I do miss Everything, fsearch is close enough but after like a decade using Everything I still have muscle memory for my old keybinds to pull it up. Luckily I don't need it for work stuff so hitting Ctrl+Shift+R to manually refresh my directories for personal use isn't a dealbreaker.

>>109859609
>I suspect T480's could coast along for another 5 years before things really start to hurt
Kek I'm keeping my T470, my 32GB problem solver for the next decade I don't give a shit

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Is there anyone here that has a Gen 14 X1 Carbon?

Does the X1 Carbon Gen 10 suck? Is 750 CAD (~530 USD) a bad price for one? I saw one up for sale for that price with 32gb ram

>>109860675
>ultrabook with 32GB
It's worth it Anon, even a non ultrabook laptop brand new is a dumb amount of money, and a brand new Ultrabook with 32GB? Forget about it.

>>109860686
It's used, not brand-new, but it looks to be in pretty good condition. I'm only hesitant for a couple reasons, firstly because it would definitely be a bit overkill given the things I would actually do with a new laptop if I got one, and secondly because I've never had a newer thinkpad and I've heard nothing but negative things about the newer models.

>>109860722
A used thinkpad is better than anything you can buy from the store Anon, and the complaints about new thinkpads have to do with design and keyboard changes, nothing to do with their durability as business machines, you can still drop it on the ground or get a little liquid on the thing and it's not gonna be insta-killed like an Apple Laptop, Would it be nice if they still had the old 7 row business laptop keyboard? Yes, but technology in a newer thinkpad blows away what was available a long time ago, and the classic design isn't worth using older technology that doesn't do very much with the power it consumes for no reason.

>>109851636
Thinkpads do this thing where they don't leak power when nothing is plugged into the HDMI port. Its very useful for getting actual work done as opposed to larping.

>>109860675
Sounds fairly decent for the price. A 12th gen intel cpu will last for a long time still, and 32 gb ram should also be good for a while.
I mostly go for the T models, and T14 gen 2 and 3 are probably the best overall buys right now. But the X1 is pretty decent for a more light weight model. Never really used the pen I must admit.

thinkbumo

0.78 inch thin laptop btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIS7ejS3Wng

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>>109823333
so I revived my thinkpad
though I'm not sure about the OS ... I think I'll try omarchy next

>>109862708
Wtf Anon a quad Core Kaby refresh laptop should never be put in a situation where it's not used, that's a goddamn beast.

>>109862714
yeah anon i had to use macbooks on my last job but luckily I got laid off due to AI and now can get back to linux and proper hardware :D

Any good Laptops with HDD ports? I got a 1TB HDD/SSD hybrid I'd like to use.

>>109862812
The T470 and T480 are pretty based laptops that could have a SATA caddy installed and a hybrid drive put in

>>109862812
Some but not all L14 G2 Intel had one too, if T470/T480 are too slow for you

>>109862687
framework better

>>109862821
there's an extra mini NVME slot! maybe i should slap in the hybrid SSD from my PS4 into the caddy and buy an NVME for the other slot

>>109863454
that's the WWAN slot my nigga

>>109863501
It's the same interface Anon, just a lil shorter and they make shorty NVMe SSDs

>>109865956
>and they make shorty NVMe SSDs
Good luck finding one in sufficient size.

>>109866035
They're good for a secondary though

>>109866194
outweighed by the usefulness of a WWAN card. Use keepgo and you'll always have backup data.

>>109857948
>However, the thinkpad cannot recognize any battery, and only works on AC.
Actually, it recognizes, just does not charge.
When i connect the battery while laptop is on AC, the Windows tray icon shows that a battery got attached, and the charging LED starts blinking. But it does not charge: led keeps blinking yellow, and the tray icon says "0%, not charging".
May it be a problem with the DC-in connector?

>>109867090
or the battery failed and refuses to charge