Cat editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://consoomer-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Journal:https://iemgazette.pages.dev/>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>Measurements:https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/measurement-databases/>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim Zero Ultima DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Sony IER-EX15C (Warm/Dark) - $30• Etymotic ER2XR (Towards Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• NICEHCK Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) - $18• TRN Black Pearl (10-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200• TempoTec V1 - $110>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>109807139
tws is so much better than wired it's insane, lol
Have you tried R2R dacs?
My case got here today, it's very nice. i'm gonna have eartip cases 3d printed to fit it exactly
>>109846200Said nobody.
>>109846228Was considering getting this for my dogshit TA-32. Unsure if I should. I think it has some pops and delays for example when switching bitrates?
>>109846228Even their marketing says the opposite of what I want, maybe because I didn't waste money on ear rape headpos(actually I did but I EQd it to perfection).
>>109846228>Marketting gibberish: "(...) Delivers unique sound perfomance"I don't want my audio to sound "unique", I want it to sound the way it's supposed to as envisioned by whoever recorded it.
>>109846327It's legit r2r use case. Even chinkfiman have r2r combo called goldenwave serenade that is marketed for planar headphones, just to smooth out that treble. Bright headpos can be jaw dropping for short sessions but for longer ones they are just too fatiguing. And there is solution for u -R2R
>>109846597Yeah but it will never be as good as proper EQ. It's mostly active above 10kHz and the most problematic area is 6k-10k.
S08chad, may I have your eq? Autoeq doesn't have one and idk how to tune those dips properly. It sounds weird to use it as is.
>>109846597And it's not from R2R itself, it's from the slow low pass filter(all fast low pass filters are digital and you can't use them without oversampling).
>>109846631>idk how to tune those dips properly. By ear.
>>109846239said urmom
>>109846658I'm not a trained listener to know which band freq affect the change. Also, I'm starting to doubt whether I should EQ it or not. The default tuning is nice.
>>109846684Stick to wideband adjustments until you learn peaks. 100Hz bass shelf, 10kHz treble shelf, 200Hz, 5kHz, 1.5kHz are the most important regions to play with, in that order. You can also try sharur's bullshit at peqdb.
>2026>still using wires lol
>>109846824Sound quality is stored in the wires.
>>109846839no it's not
>>109846963Then why do all tws sound like shit but qudelix doesn't?
which one?
>>109846684there is no point in EQing unless you have a clear reference that you're looking forif the tonality is within a certain range, the difference really won't be audible, which is the case for all of these IEMsdon't touch it, especially if the sound isn't fatiguing to your earseven then, I prefer trying different tips to attenuate treble peaks
>>109847029I think wanker shells are worse than elua in terms of fitting so probably elua if you're going blind.
>>109847029With deep insertion/being asian you'll probably like elua more, otherwise waner.
>>109846989because your ears are shit and you can't EQ
>>109847578Can't EQ TWS with qudelix.
>>109847598skill issue
>>109846231post it
/iemg/ Dogma Check Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:>Crinacle is not your priest.Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.>Harman and JM-1 ≠ perfect.It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.Great value, yes. Immune to QC issues and hype cycles? Nope.>Graphs are not sound.They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.>Loud posts =/= smart takes.Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.>Cognitive dissonance.When you're presented with a truth that threatens your entire perception of the world around you, your brain will simply refuse to process it.This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink.
>>109848450Doesn't know how panning works btw.
Endgame.
>>109845855Only reason I haven't boughted the daybreak is because it's too ugly. Would like that tuning in a nightfall shell
>>109848674Look into EPZ P50
>>109848700Especially the custom one.
>Sony IER-EX15CThese are recommended in the OP, but they have a USB-C connector, won't this be an issue?I'm assuming USB-C to USB-C DACs aren't as popular, and I won't be able to use it for another, non-USB-C pair, if I get one.Or do they not need a DAC? I don't need anything fancy, I just want to upgrade from some cheap earbuds I've had for years.Also, does every device accept audio through their USB-C port? Though, the switch 2 apparently does, which was my main concern, so I guess this one's not that big of a deal.
>>109849413There's a DAC inside type c.
>>109849425Well, a DAC has to be in every pair of headphones, otherwise they wouldn't work, no?What I meant is if the DAC they have embedded is good enough that I wouldn't need to buy an external one.
>>109849448You can't use an external DAC with them. Bullets often have bullshit like that + non removable cables.
>>109848700>>109849357is it any good?
>>109849604the custom faceplate goes against the P50's intended semi open-back design. what do you currently own and what are you looking for in an upgrade?
>>109849667epz g10I guess something for rock/ garage rock and more chaotic music
>>109849696TKZK Ouranos certainly fills in the blanks for what you're looking for. Has better resolution and an audibly higher technical ceiling than pretty much all EPZ 1DDs
>>109849766thanks, never heard about this iem
>>109849809TKZK=TINHIFI's sister brand. Ouranos is based off the T3 Plus
>>109849879do they have tws?
>>109850203TKZK, no. TINHIFI, yes, three models.
>>109849667>open backpretty sure the driver itself is closed on the back so it doesn't matter
>>109850270if the front of the driver is sealed into an acoustic tube/nozzle, the rear of the driver can still be vented so it does matter.
EQ guide lost
>>109850471The bibisi EQ
>>109850471Fuck the mids. Nothing but trash.
>>109850471>3 bands>amazingdo itoddlers really
>>109849667Closed p50 still has less isolation than other closed IEMs though.
>>109850684I can plaster text onto any decibel reading software and call it evidence, too. But that wouldn't be necessary when we can just state the sensitivities of both of those shitbuds are 100dB @20Ω for the G10 and 106dB at 32Ω for the P50, which makes your little REW experiment an utter joke
>>109850757You can't because you have no rig, no software and no IEMs.
>>109850772I accept your concession, then. Thanks for playing
>>109850806You thought I measured noise isolation by playing the sound through the IEMs. One of the most 60 IQ posts of all time.
>>109850819Outing yourself as foxretard again. Seek a new grift already
>>109850830>literally posting my IEMs>aha, I reveled your disguise!Never ever ever ever beating the 60 IQ allegations.
>>109850845if your mind is as cramped as your "audio space", you have way worse problems than dealing with other anons. whew
Ok, help me out here. I've got the truthhear zero reds and I like them but the nozzle is just too big and hurty my ears. Recommend me a harman tuned IEM with better comfort for long listening sessions.
>>1098506763 more than what they have available with wired IEMs.
>>109850888>shartmanNova
>>109850888EPZ Q1 Pro + custom faceplate techs
>>109850932the nozzle looks just as big. are they really comfortable?>>109850922shartman?
So I started working at Amazon and don't really have a choice of what headphones I get to use (4 company approved options, in theory I could get the over the ear and modify them but not worth that much trouble)Is there a decent cheap MP3 player with Bluetooth that doesn't look like a phone. Preferably something stealth I could put on a keychain? I would prefer at least 10 hours of battery life.
>>109850922>>109850932>"once they're in your ears they sound nothing close to Harman"
>>109850985The IEM is also much smaller.
>>109850997Fug
Can I get a qrd on CVJs? I like the animu faceplates
>>109851166Mostly wacky tunings and sometimes very memey drivers(konoka). Good for collecting but probably not for daily use. Jemine is their most reasonably tuned IEM.
>>109850996Nobody outside of harman labs heard harman. You don't have IEMs with mics for leakage test.
>>109849766Elegant and modern.
>>109848510Not with that faceplate.
>>109851594It would greatly benefit from a cute fox faceplate. Only then can it be endgame
>>109848510What IEM?
>>109851694nta but EPZ Q1 Pro bland edition (custom / all black, no logo)
>>109852126>bland editionEQd to JM-1 with 10dB tilt?
>>109853300At least put some effort into your trolling
>>109845969I saw that chink shit general links you guys for headphones, but op doesn't say anything about headphones, can I ask about headphones here?
>>109853426You can.
>>109853426Currently it's only audio related general that survived flood of slopers generals. U can ask about anything audio related here
>Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22 those are avaliable with usb in. Shall i get them or stick to the 3.5+ dac
>>109853754>Shall i get them or stick to the 3.5+ dacit's a preference choice there, unless you have specific needs of one over the other
>>109853769Wdym. What am i gaining or losing
I have 30 different types of ear tips now. i will buy Harmonic Empire x TangZu Changheyin Sonic Galaxy Edition Liquid eartips next. quite liked the Harmonic Empire x TangZu Sonic Song of the Long River eartips they made so i figure i gotta try them. They work well with bone conduction sets or whenever you need short eartips
>>109846228Nah, I'm good with pic.
i cant choose between blessing 3 and ep321 mems
>>109854377MEMS or Erand Resonance 5. Do not consoom Blessing 3. It's thinpos.
which DAP has no DAC within?
>>109854377i have ep321 for few weeks and i really like it. Build quality and stuff included in box is typical binary accoustic dogshit tier but sound is really nice. For me, at least, that amount of bass works really well; it suits both tracks that are lighter in the low end and those that are more powerful. As for the treble, it leans towards the brighter side, but I feel the bass balances it nicely, preventing it from sounding too harsh. At least to my ears, there aren't any major resonances. However, MEMS drivers have a somewhat distinctive sound; I compared these with the Dunu DK3001BD, and despite very similar measurements, the treble performance was very different for my ears. As for vocals they are not that close to u vs vocal centric sets. Not bad but sometimes when u know that singer pulls some wild shit because u heard it more midrange focused sets it lacks bit of that wow factor. That wow factor is pushed more towards top end.I haven't heard the Blessing 3s, but I get the impression that the bass might be an issue—specifically, that there simply wouldn't be enough of it to balance out the treble.Im also using planar overears with bass on lighter side and there I cant stand as much high end as with ep321.Bought it for 210usd, i think its really good set at that price but for msrp it bit worse, build quality could be much better (faceplate is fingerprint magnet, lots of bubbles in resin, visible 3d printing lines, plastic hardware on cable, small choice of eartips)
>>109850888anon you have to be iredeemably stupid to buy the Zero Red except for that cool faceplate. That thing has no soundstage, poor techs, needs a good DAC, and above all else that tuning is horrendous. I would know, CrinACKle scammed me 50 bucks for that piece of shit.
>moomdrop gayming cans are $90 in the USThanks Donnie.
>>109853754>3.5+ dacThat version is safer. I have seen reports of the strain relief being quite flimsy in the USB-C version, making it prone to breakage.
>>109854503yeah that seems to get pointed out a lot, ive tunnel visioned on resolving ability atp bc im perpetually vaguely disappointed with my headphones (560s) wish i had a reference to what i might find thin sounding or not. generally i dont like warm or enveloping sound though, or closed in and intimate sound, seem to prefer (what to me sounds) unbiased and clear (when it does), but not dull or softened, and always looking for more definition and clearness. not that many seem to fit that at stock tunings actually (it's not that I'm unwilling to eq but an iem's advertised goals are probably worth considering). hexas get brought up, blessing 3, and seemingly ep321.
>>109855254what are they thinking with that coiled cable....HyperX Cloud III S moggs in the aesthetics for a little more
>>109850985Novas got thick nozzles and a big shell. So it's not going to be more comfortable than the reds. It raped my ears for the first week but then I got used to it.
>>109855418Moomdrop likely mogs that in sound quality tho according to headphones show.
>>109855396same except i want dense physical notes and physicality without giving up any speed or definition. This seems to cost a lot of money vs achieving it through thinness though. i need fugaku
>>109845969Silently waiting for people on the Zune discord to enable unsigned code execution on the 30 or 80 models.
>>109855544>caring about stock sound in 2026ngmi and resolve shills the cloud iii s too
>>109855396i think ep321 are good choice then. I really enjoy its sound but my take on it- its neutral bright. I was looking on graphs for few minutes and just by them I will say that blessing 3 would be probably too thin on lower end for that amount of high end, I will say its bright sound and i really need just bit more bass for it too call it neutral bright. DK3001 BD was more like U shape sound signature, but I had constant problems with seal so that sub bass boost wasnt there and shit was just too bright. I also tried few over ear chinkfiman planars and there u just fighting with all sorts of resonances on high end. Im staying away from any kind of bright sound signature in overears.Judging by graphs with stuff Ive had I would really enjoy blessing 3 Aqua instead of normal one. Normal one really reminds me that stock chinkfiman planar sound.
anons is this all i need to clean and maybe replace the filters/dampeners on my hexa?to the other anon that helped me the other day, sucking out the iem didnt help with cleaning
>>109856109I did filter swap on something else and that tool is a must. Probably get 2 just in case you lose one, same with filters, that mesh is easy to destroy/push out of place.
What are your Snowsky Echo Mini experiences /iemg/ ?
>>109856109Remove them all and check if the imbalance is fixed before ordering anything.
>>109856034E321 graphs pretty good compared to the others. I'm interested in obtaining one some time
>>109858140EP321**
>>109849357so I have G10's custom but im looking for something maybe a bit better if not overall better.
>>109858650Easy. Ouranos or EA500LM.
my black pearl DAC doesn't work with my oppo A9 2020. it works when I use it on my pc tho. asked AI and followed what to do but didn't work, anyone know why?
>>109858682Just black pearl or other DACs too? Could be not enough power.
>>109858708I just have a black pearl , no other DAC
>>109858724>black pearlhow you liking it?
>>109858989it's good but works only on my pc...I wish it worked on my phone too
>>109858998interestingly, black pearl is supposed to work with phones. AI already told you USB OTG isn't enabled, right? other than that, it could just be that the old phone isn't providing enough power
>>109859239I think you're right; my phone hasn't enough power lol
I own moondrops starfield are they considered good? Is there any IEMS that makes music sound more soft or warm. I dont know shit about IEMs sorry for noob questions
>>109859338what do you mainly listen to them with? PC, phone? Do you have a dongle at all?
>>109859319it's USB 2.0, they use USB 2.0 for these dongles because it works with everythingit not working because it can't draw enough power is nonsenseyou likely didn't turn on OTG, ie user error
DMS is my favorite vibe coder
>>109860442USB 2.0 doesn't mean "it can always draw enough power". USB power limitations on phones are a thing, but OTG being disabled is prob the first thing to check
>>109860503What he make this time?
>>109860673either that (sometimes u can even missclick popup and not allow connections by mistake) or usb c port inside phone is fucked. Mine can charge with any cable but data transfer side is fucked that i cant use it with anything that requires data transfer
Watching jay audio review of the new bunny, and this dude who is supposed to be a mac enjoyer uses eqMac. Starting to think all these audiophile reviewers are tech illiterate.
>>109860926yeah sometimes that happens. a cable or port can charge just fine but will fail to enumerate the device
>>109860931What's he supposed to use? (I never touched applel products) Just curious
why does the yaksha with the animu faceplate cost twice as much as the regular one?
>>109861254waifu tax, pretty standard
EW300 or Truthear Pure
>>109861408or EG280
>>109861408get gk kunten or edc pro now then save up and get an epic audio thalassophobia
thinking about getting these summit stainless steel eartips
>>109861408PVRE. EW300 is DD with 2 other cosmetic drivers kek
>>109861576Ain't Pentaconn COREIR same shit but more affordable?
>>109858650Doesn't really get any better.
>>109861596kind of but mithryls medium is 12.6 mm, where the COREIRs i have are 12 and 13 mm and i always wanted a size in between. if i happen to prefer mithryls sound too then this could be good
>>109861584>>109861494thanks, I'm going to look up these ones and see what I can find. I own a pair of Mele and was looking for an upgrade. My main issue with those is that they can sound congested with dense electronic/pop productions. When there are lots of layers, instruments and vocals, things tend to blend together and lose separation. Vocals can also get buried in the mix.I'm mainly looking for better instrument separation, layering, imaging and overall resolution, rather than simply more bass or brighter treble.
>>109861656You need a midbass dip for separation and you ain't gonna get it without EQ on a single driver. Or even multiple drivers when they're all above 1k like they usually are.
>>109861157You're supposed to use nothing like Apple intended.
>>109859455PC. I use this from my old headsetHyperX 7.1 Surround Sound USB Sound Card - Virtual Surround Audio Support for Cloud II
>>109861731>You need a midbass dip for separationthis is untrue and misguided advice. please refrain from giving anons farcical information
>>109862102It's basic knowledge. Post what AI told you so we can have a chuckle.
>>109862094Fuck my motherboard seems to be better than this shit, but i like it because of volume buttons.Copied from AIGood — that confirms it. Your TUF Gaming B550-Plus (WI-FI) II has the Realtek S1200A codec with:108 dB SNR (stereo line out) / 103 dB (line in)Audio shielding + dedicated audio PCB layersPremium Japanese audio capacitorsDe-pop circuitDTS Custom for headsets That's a clear win over the HyperX USB dongle. The S1200A is a purpose-built gaming codec with a proper analog stage, physical shielding, and better output drive than the cheap USB DAC chip in the HyperX adapter.
>>109862135I just put volume control on extra buttons of my mouse.
>>109860442>>109860673guys you were right, it was the OTG!!! it works on my phone now!! fuck AI, it didn't give me that solution
>>109862121No clanker needed. But let's pick apart your post anyway, for the chuckle+knowledge.>You need a midbass dip for separation and you ain't gonna get it without EQ on a single driver.There are plenty of 1DDs that are U-shaped and don't require EQ.And the problem he's mainly running into is lack of resolution. His $50 Mele probably isn't giving him the separation he's already expecting on its own and EQ won't fix that either. A better driver is needed, which sounds like he already knows this. Your EQ "fix" makes too many assumptions about all the audio he will be throwing at the IEM to be considered an actual fix
>>109862152U shape is not the same thing as midbass dip.>EQ won't fix thatIt will.
>>109862159>U shape is not the same thing as midbass dip.U-shape is distinct from V-shaped as it includes a dip in the midbass. This is what separates if from a V-shaped tuning.
>>109861656I'll save you some time and cut thru the bullshit-Buy a Simgot EA500LM and call it a day.
>>109862166It's a glide style of tuning instead of dip style. The difference from V is where the rise starts.
>please refrain from giving anons farcical information>the problem he's mainly running into is lack of resolution
>>109862174If you say so. 100-300Hz is the area that splits the difference as that is where bloat either exists because of v-shaped tuning or doesn't because of a dip in that region.
>>109862187you can reply directly to me instead of being a pussy. nobody here wants to watch a crashout, but a discussion- that which you surely are capable of having.
>>109862189If it were just about the overall level of bass we could listen without tips and have all the separation. U shape just sounds thin. A distinct dip highlights both the bass and the treble instead.
>>109862212>U shape just sounds thinThis is still making the assumption that all the audio he plays will suffer because all the audio contains the same bass information (kicks, sub-frequencies, etc.), and this would be the wrong assumption to make.
>>109862219You're doing the meme.
>>109862212>A distinct dip highlights both the bass and the treble instead.And I think we can find some sort of common ground here. Almost. I just wouldn't assume every piece of audio he plays has the same FR information as the next
Guys I have a serious problem.
>>109862234
>>109862225Calling you out on mistakes doesn't mean I'm making those mistakes. But ok, keep playing out your display
>>109862236is barg's any good?
I'm a EQ hater but dippin' ze bass is probably the easiest shit it can do with the least amount of side effects.
>>109862237Where's the mistake? A track with different FR doesn't invalidate how the IEM will sound with normal tracks.
>>109861408I have the EW300 and really like it. The silver nozzles is the kind of v-shape tunning that I really like.
>>109862240Root beer is a polarizing flavor. Some say it tastes like medicine. Out of barqs, a&w and mug I like mug the most, it's the most well rounded.
>>109862245>A track with different FR doesn't invalidate how the IEM will sound with normal tracks.you're missing the point because you're jumping to an argument against something I'm not even saying. I'm not saying different track FR somehow changes the IEM's FR. I'm saying the effect of a particular EQ correction depends on the spectral content of the audio being played. and anon is seeking a new IEM where he can notice a technical upgrade, which your midbass tuck will not provide by itself. if it truly did, you would've given him the advice of "EQ that region first" already, and you didn't.
>>109862322>I'm not saying different track FR somehow changes the IEM's FRNobody said that.>I'm saying the effect of a particular EQ correction depends on the spectral content of the audio being played.I repeat, a track with different FR doesn't invalidate how the IEM will sound with normal tracks. Track FR obviously meant track spectrum.>if it truly did, you would've given him the advice of "EQ that region first" already, and you didn't.Are we deadass right now, I literally did in my first reply to him.
>>109862234>>109862236But basically, I fucking hate USB-C. I can't use my portable DAC anymore, because the USB-C slots on both the DAC and my phone are I guess to wide now and the smallest touch just fucking disconnects it. And I have a ddHiFi TC07S, which was great initially and super snug. I'm really not sure if a new cable would fix it, or if my devices are now raped. Gotta figure out some DIY fix for this fucking garbage...
>>109862351>I literally did in my first reply to him.u right, u right. I misread that part. the point is that you're presenting the midbass dip as though it's the thing that solves the separation problem, when at most it's one way of reducing low mid masking and changing perceived separation. it doesn't add resolution, improve imaging or improve the driver's ability to resolve and layer dense information.if the Mele's congestion is primarily tonal masking, EQ only helps to an extent. if anon is looking for a technical upgrade over the Mele, that's a different problem, and “you need a midbass dip” is too categorical an answer to it.
>>109862381>it doesn't add resolution, improve imaging or improve the driver's ability to resolve and layer dense information.It does.
>>109862390increased audibility from reduced masking is not increased resolving capability.
>>109862393It is.
>>109862402if you're calling an increase in perceived detail “more resolution,” that's fine as a perceptual description. but it's not the same thing as a technical upgrade to the IEM, which is what anon was asking for.since you can't move past conflation, you'll just have to agree to disagree on what constitutes a technical upgrade. we're clearly using “resolution” differently at this point. anon needs an EA500LM and not your "midbass tuck=technicalities boost" theory
>>109862428It is the same thing as a technical upgrade. When you EQ hd600 to hd800 it has the same techs as hd800. Why would vastly superior IEM drivers be any different. EA500LM has never been famous for its techs, why even bring it up.
>>109862439>EA500LM has never been famous for its techs, why even bring it up.truly amazing that this is how you end the convo- pure troll.well I hope we both gave that anon enough information to bounce off of because you now seem to be finished with the discussion portion. you've never heard a simgot in your life, sweetie and you'd greatly benefit from a nice stretch right now
>>109862464Where's the troll? The consensus is it's ass. Mogged even by other simgots as it should be.
>>109862381> it doesn't add resolution, improve imaging or improve the driver's ability to resolve and layer dense information.Yes. Only marketing blurbs add them.
>>109862428i'm the anon looking for advice, why the EA500LM over EW300 or truthear pure in my case?
Does Peace work on a USBC wired IEM
>>109862748Yes. Just don't forget to install it through APO configurator as usual.
>>109862356I started using magnets because of this.
>>109861576>people bitch about Cantor having metal nozzle to align with the edge of the eartip>people paying extra for metal eartips doing basically the same shitebin
Any block type usb dacs with peq under $20 yet?By that I mean the cable can be replaced
why do crinacle and headpos show hate bass and techs so much? for me i know whatever they like wont have good slam and dynamics
>>109862936block type with peq is still marketed as a premiumshit should cost 20 at most
>>109862669nta but you don't even explain what you're looking for. EW300 tuning is more acceptable mainstream compared to pvre. Which the latter probably more appealing to /hpg/ contrarian.
>>109863111but I did, >>109861656
>>109863135>hbb shill as prior experienceI mean EW300 has HBB variant I'm pretty sure. Especially what you're looking is the snake oil instead of technical terms. It has similar bass and better treble that probably will function to provide you more clarity and resolution.
>connect miku dap to my withered, ancient wh-1000MX3s>suddenly there's detail and soundstageconfused but happy
>>109863186I don't care about branding, I barely know who HBB is, I bought those 4 years ago when people here were saying they were good
When is the qudelix 5k plus going to be released?https://www.qudelix.com/pages/forum?p=post%2Fqudelix-roadmap-2026-13846459
>>109861157blackhole 2ch following oratory's guide
>>109860673>>109860442forgot to say thank you very much
>>109862834Magnets? Like special magnetic cables or what?
The new $30 bunny has the same dd as the origin? Wtf? So I'm getting $200 dd for $30?
It's so good. What are you listening to?
>>109863803DD is like $3-5
>you're telling me multi centobuck pos are just marketing?yes, havent we been saying for years that $20 pos already solved the IEM problem
>>109863673Adapters
>>109863803You can also get $140 Planar for $1400.
>>109863940Only real music https://youtu.be/tiT8pE0HbTE
>>109863004crin likes bass actually that's why his daily driver is daybreaks >techsmental illness
>>109864149>>techs>mental illnessnta. what pos are you using?
>>109864155ironically daybreaks (with EQ)
>>109864180Why did you buy that pos...
>>109864187I mean it's pretty good all things considered
>>109864149>anon believes that guy with a store full of summit fi personally uses one of the most widely available cheap pos... that accidentally have his name on itNext time remember to attach headpos dot com review to show how his shit is recognized by neutral party over internet
>>109864239>anon believes summit fi is better than what you personally tunedKeximus maximus
>>109864269>x is better than JM1yesremember to buy his other shit while you're at it, he's that master tuner
Why not build your own IEMs?
>>109864269this is why totl brands will die, or at least seriously deflate any day now. I'm thinking 14 days give or take
nvm i can't read. you said tunedtheir days are still numbered though
What are the chances they will make an IEM?Would prob be very stylish one.https://shop.baseduzmicrophones.com/
>be cringe>kilopos is le good>use his own pos>be super*>kilopos is le good>use lan>be precog >kilopos is le good>use custom shell pos with EQ(though admittedly still kilopos, just not "the best" one)>be headpos show>kilopos is le good>rate it below space travel lmaoDo as I say, not as I do, amirite?
>>109864721looks like a very random and representative set of reviewers
>>109864721>I lie so these other people must be lying too!
anything recent similar to the creative muvo?>runs on standard batteries>compact>buttons
>>109864763Feel free to name a single reviewer that is actually using "the best IEM" that he recently shilled.
>>109864897sharur
>>109864897half of hs crew daily drives susvaras, its hard to find something more sumit fi, super and other chink iem reviewers dont have anything fav because they are drowning in endless stream of plastic shit coming out of china just to stay on top of review/shill market that buys them food.
>>109864897my point was just that your list isn't very balanced, if its meant to imply something about kilopos generally. precog sticks out a bit and he does own kilobucks. he bought annihilator last year too i think
>>109865041Headphones are different because you at least do get something with lower distortion in higher budgets.>>109865042I just asked you to balance it. I can't.
>>109864347Why not build your own car?
>>109865065well we dont actually know what crinacle uses but looking at his ranking list it could well be kilopos. but if it isnt, i can understand wanting to use, or at least say you use, something you made yourself. and even listener has kilopos at the top of his list. so looking into it, probably even these guys use kilopos
>>109864347There's very little benefit in doing that actually.
>>109865109literally illegal
>>109864838Damn, I still have a 128MB MuVo like that somewhere! Should still be working, but obviously there's little use for it at such capacity.Had a 2GB MuVo v100 like pic related too but it died long ago from water damage unfortunately.
>>109864838>>109865499And wow they can get quite price nowadays too. But guess the higher capacity ones are still perfectly usable today given they don't have a built-in battery that can die on you. Well, as long as you're fine with shit low bitrate mp3s. They could do up to 320kbps but don't remember how the output was.
>>109865498Well you CAN build one, but getting it registered and driving on public roads is a whole different thing...
>"where's the troll?"
>>109864180why buy an IEM based on tuning alone when you inevitably use EQ? kind of counterintuitive
>>109866150>why buy an IEM based on tuning alonewho said that? nobody said that
>>109853478>>109853734you u still buy POS when audio already has been solved for over 40 years?
>>109862356
>>109863398the link you posted literally said that its going to be released september or october of this year.
>>109863398>qudelix 5k plus>no clipto the trash it goes
>>109866451pretty obvious they'll include an acrylic case with a clip
>>109862834anyone told you already that blue faceplates with orange shells look atrocious?
>>109863940Chiptunes. Especially FM. Great to check the techs of your pos.https://youtu.be/9kUR3NPWzXc
>>109867304Here's an even better way to check techs of your pos:https://imaging-lab.xyz/
got an ifi go bar kensei to pair with my monarch mk3s
>>109867270Literally one of the most common color combinations.
>>109866386Pic unrelated? Physically incapable of subbass.
>>109867897>Physically incapable of subbass.bullshit. you can EQ subbass no problem
>>109868033>*braap*
>>109868065that's not an FR graph. also, pic related.
>>109868100THD is very much relevant with even thousand dollar products clipping from bass. $20 IEMs are endgame precisely because they solved THD.
>>109868114a THD graph doesn't prove that “the Porta Pro is physically incapable of subbass.” a headphone can have a perfectly measurable 20 Hz response while having ugly THD down there. those are separate properties.and low THD isn't the same thing as overall technical performance, either. a cheap IEM can have extremely low distortion while still having mediocre technical performance in other areas.>$20 IEMs are endgame precisely because they solved THD.is an especially silly extrapolation. clean THD only solves one measurable aspect of driver performance and doesn't magically eliminate every other limitation affecting technical performance.
>>109868150Clanker ass post, learn to read graphs and where the harmonics in the THD come from.
>talk about bass distortion>brings up techs Mental illness.
>>109868155knew you'd cave. I know what the harmonics are. that's not what I said. if you're saying the driver literally cannot reproduce 20–40 Hz, show the FR measurement. if you're saying it can't reproduce it cleanly at a particular SPL without excessive distortion, then the THD graph is relevant to that different claim.you're constantly arguing against something I didn't say, then accuse people of replying with a clanker, which is your default when you run out of talking points. I accept your concession tho
>>109868178>I know what the harmonics areLearn to read, you fucked up reading like 5 times in this thread alone. Extremely low IQ individual.
>>109868167brother, you're arguing with yourself and losing. it's a common fault of yours, sadly
>>109868189I accept your concession again. you have the poorest social skills, my friend. stretch your legs.
>>109868197Not as poor as your reading skills. How did you even misread "learn where harmonics come from" as "learn what harmonics are"? Are you dyslexic?
if i buy ten 100 dollar pos, does that mean i own kilobuck pos?if i buy a thousand 1 dollar pos, does that mean i own kilopos?if i buy 1kg worth of pos, does that mean i have a kilo of pos?
>>109868227NoNoYes
>>109868150>a headphone can have a perfectly measurable 20 Hz response while having ugly THD down there. Not really.
>>109868300not really? a driver can produce a 20 Hz fundamental while simultaneously generating massive 40/60/80 Hz harmonics. that's literally what high THD means. the 20 Hz fundamental doesn't cease to exist because the distortion is high.if you're saying the Porta Pro can't produce 20 Hz at a sufficiently high SPL with acceptably low distortion, that's a completely different claim, and THD is absolutely relevant to that.“physically incapable of subbass” is not the same statement. I hate to say it, but you're falling flat on your face with this one
>>109867806Why did you buy that pos (mk3)...
>>109868331>while simultaneously generating massive 40/60/80 Hz harmonicsGenerating from what.
>>109868339where the harmonics originate? from the nonlinear behavior of the driver when it's being driven by the 20 Hz fundamental. that's exactly what THD is measuring.
>>109868355What happens to the fundamental when harmonics get generated.
>>109868364it stays there. as you get near the driver's limits, the fundamental can compress or stop increasing proportionally while THD rises. that's a maximum clean output limitation, not “the driver is physically incapable of reproducing subbass.” that's the distinction I've been making this entire time.wait are you having a meltdown, a discussion or are you replying to a clanker??make up your fucking mind lmao
>>109868378Where does the energy to generate harmonics come from if the fundamental stays there? Calm down, I'll get you through this step by step.
>>109868390from the same input energy. nonlinearities redistribute some of the driver's output energy into harmonic parts. they don't need the fundamental to disappear.so yes, the fundamental can stay while energy is also there in the harmonics. that's literally what nonlinear distortion is.
>>109868413What happens to the FR when you redistribute energy from one part to another.
>>109868425the FR can change but that still doesn't mean the fundamental disappears.
>>109868446So >a headphone can have a perfectly measurable 20 Hz response while having ugly THD down thereis false.
>>109868460no, you're not following. you gotta be trolling if that's your conclusion after sperging about reading skills.
>>109868460are you saying the 20 Hz fundamental literally disappears when THD rises? if so, say that explicitly
>>10986848420Hz gets converted into harmonics, yes. The FR shows this.
Btw "there's still 20Hz in the FR" is not argument, it will be there even when the driver isn't playing anything, from the noise floor.
>>109868498yes, some energy gets redistributed into harmonics. the fundamental doesn't just cease to exist. that's literally how THD works. and FR doesn't show “20 Hz getting converted”, THD does.
>>109868509obviously. we're talking about a measurable 20 Hz fundamental above the noise floor, not the fucking noise floor itself. you're arguing against a point nobody made again.
>>109868511>and FR doesn't show “20 Hz getting convertedThe change in the FR does.
>>109868526the FR changing shows the fundamental's level changed. it doesn't show that the 20 Hz energy “became harmonics.” that's what the THD spectrum is for. you're conflating two different things
>>109868542What does the level of a frequency represent.
>>109868553amplitude? 20 Hz level on an FR graph is the amplitude of the 20 Hz fundamental in the measured output.if that drops, it means less 20 Hz fundamental output. it doesn't tell you that the missing energy became harmonics.. you would need the harmonic measurements to show that.
>>109860908https://eqbyear.com/
>>109868519That example was just to show that just because it's in the FR doesn't mean it's real. This driver didn't become more efficient 40Hz, it's just this measurement method summed the harmonics with the fundamental. A sweep would resolve this correctly.
got the topping dx1 mk2just asking a dumb question to reassure myself.can't I use a TOSLINK to USB and plug that into my PC and use the USB C to power it instead of just plugging a USB C to USB C into my PC?
>>109868573What determines the amplitude.
>>109868602you already know
>>109868599You can. It's a common way to the noisy PC USB problem.
>>109868620*to solve
>>109868594yes, if the measurement method is summing harmonics into the displayed level, that's a measurement method issue. that still doesn't tell us that the 20–40 Hz fundamental has been “converted into harmonics.” you'd need a harmonic resolved measurement to show what the fundamental and harmonics are really doing.
>>109868627The change in the FR is enough to tell that harmonics have been converted. Other measurements will just break down the composition of the harmonics.
Look, no argument is gonna change the fact that if you play 20Hz on porta pros you won't feel the rumble but gonna hear a loud brap instead. Whether there's technically some 20Hz playing is irrelevant.
>>109868638no, a change in FR tells you the measured level of the fundamental changed. it doesn't tell you that the fundamental was “converted into harmonics.”that's exactly what harmonic measurements are for.. separating the fundamental from the harmonic components and then quantifying them. FR by itself doesn't establish the cause of the fundamental's level change.so THD is irrelevant for most things, or it is relevant? come to a conclusion already
>>109868654The cause is always conversion. They don't spawn from thin air. If they appeared without the FR changing now that would be surprising.
>>109868651So>"it's physically incapable of subbass”is false.
>>109868659If it's not doing the purpose of subbass is it really capable of subbass?
>>109868657>"harmonics were generated”>“the fundamental was converted into harmonics.” are not the same thing
>>109868665define "capable of subbass"
>>109868672>feel the rumble
